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April 2, 2025 • 16 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Donald Trump, crashing the economy, recession looming.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
What happens next? Watch what happens will happen right here.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
On fifty five KRC, the Talk station Ato six at
fifty five KRC, the Talk Station, A very happy Wednesday
to you, Judge Ennenapolotano every Wednesday, bottom of the hour.
Gotta wait for that, and I know you will. But
in the meantime, I'm so pleased to welcome to the
fifty five RC Morning Show, doing an empower You seminar
tomorrow night, beginning at seven pm, following Trump on the

(00:29):
campaign trail. My guest today Janis Heisel, who will provide
a lengthy discussion upon this Tomorrow night. You can show
up live or in person empower Youamerica dot org. You
need to register whether you're showing up in person or
going to be logging in from home former President Donald Trump.
She was on the campaign trail for the twenty twenty
four general election ballot and related issues before joining the
Epoch or Epic Times. We'll learn what she calls it.

(00:51):
She worked for more than two decades as a reporter
for newspapers here in Ohio and also has authored several books.
Welcome to the morning. Welcome to the program, j Before
we get to Donald Trump and the campaign trail, is
it epic or epoch? I've looked online. Pronunciation can be
either way. How do you pronounce it? Good morning, Janis.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Well, if you are a British issue, could say epoch
it sounds a lot more posh. But if you're more
American market, you can say epic. All right, wow, that's
how I look at it.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
I choose the British pronuncia epoch because I want people
to know how to spell it, because if you say epic,
I'm afraid they're going to go to the Epic Epic
Times dot com, which won't take you to the the
Epoch Times dot com, which they should go to because
it's a wonderful source of excellent information and reporting. I
salute you Janie for working there.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
I do a log into your site every single day
in preparation for the fifty five KRC Morning Show. So
good work you're doing there.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Well, thank you. I'm really glad to hear that.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
It's It's a worthy side of visiting. No so, I
consult all types of sites, from the most conservative to
the most liberals, kind of give me a broader perspective
of what people are talking about and their take on
various issues. So turning to the campaign, and apparently you
spent a lot of time on the campaign trail, and
I get the impression that if you're not hiding out
and running a campaign from a basement, it's hard work

(02:16):
running for president.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Oh my lord, I got to tell you, you know,
even though I've been a reporter for thirty years, including
fifteen at the since that Inquirer before I came here,
nothing prepared me for this role I had that I
was both blessed and cursed with. It was the most

(02:39):
challenging thing I've done in my thirty year career. And
in fact, I'd like to read a quick quote from
one of my stories, the twenty twenty four Road to
the White House has been riddled with more potholes, land mines,
and detours than anyone could have imagined. And that is
so true. I was there for all of it, almost
all of it, and there were a few things I

(03:00):
wasn't able to cover because of logistics, like you know,
you can't get from here to there in time, or
or I had some vacations or whatnot. Very few, but man,
it was crazy. I covered sixty Trump events in person
and several dozen more like remotely, like using you know,
a live stream or whatever. So it was. It was

(03:20):
quite an ordeal. I ended up traveling enough miles to
go around the world three point two times.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Oh my word. Well, and I know the burning question
of my listener's mind right now. July thirteenth, twenty twenty four,
when Donald Trump almost lost his life, were you there?

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Oh gosh, yes, I was definitely going to point that out.
But yeah, it was. I even wrote a rare first
person account of my experiences because I had a little
bit of a different experience where I was. I couldn't
see Trump where I was. They keep a lot of
the print reporters way back behind where the TV cameras

(03:57):
are all set up, and so all we could see
where I was the crowd and I you know this,
these TV the big screens that they have the monitors
is all we could see. And there was an immigration start,
the one that he credits was saving his life. Yeah,
turned to look at it and just that weird experience
of being in this information vacuum. At first people thought

(04:19):
maybe it was firecrackers. Other people thought maybe it was
somebody opening fire in the crowd itself, because you couldn't
tell the way the sound echoed exactly what was going on.
It was really terrifying, and it was the first time
in my career that I was in the middle of
an active shooting. And there is nothing that can prepare

(04:41):
you for that. It gives me much more. I always
respected the good guys in law enforcement and in our military,
but my goodness, it gave me new respect for those
people who literally put themselves in the line of fire.
I later learned I wasn't in the line of fire myself,
thank goodness, but just being there was truly terrifying. I

(05:05):
was trembling underneath the table, trying to figure out in
my mind races you wonder what in the world is
going on. People are screaming, you know, there's just no
information at all where I was about what was really happening.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
All that had to be just absolutely insane because beyond
the cameras, folks with a the clear view of the
stage and Donald Trump, they obviously could see exactly what happened.
It would be so strange to be in your situation
to hear the gunfire and see people's reaction, but not
really have a connection with exactly what was going on.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, it was very frustrating as just even a human being.
But then as a reporter, after I came out from
underneath the table and thought maybe I should go hide
someplace elf, because it was a small wooden like a
wooden thin table, people were yelling to me, ma'am, did
Trump get shot? And I had to say I didn't know.
And so my instincts as a reporter to get the story,

(05:59):
we're competing, of course, with your instincts to literally just survive,
you know, because you don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Unbelievable. Well, pivoting away from July thirteenth, Yeah, you were
at a total of like sixty events. Did you get
access to Donald Trump? Did you ever able to engage
in a sort of a one on one Q and
A with him on any level?

Speaker 2 (06:24):
Well, you know that is of course every reporter wants
that a lot of people don't realize, including I didn't
realize that there are hundreds of reporters that show up
at almost all of these events. It was literally crazy
to try to even get any access at all. There
were only a few press gaggles like if you're set

(06:45):
way back in the middle of some big arena, you're
never going to get the chance to, you know, talk
to him. And this was my biggest handicap is that
I was a political national politics newcomer, even though I've
been in the business thirty years. I covered mostly, you know,
cops and courts here locally, and you know, this was
an entirely different stage. And yeah, of course I go

(07:06):
into this and I'm I'm collecting. You know, here's what
I would ask him if I get that interview. I finally, finally,
towards the very end of the campaign, I kept trying
and trying to get even a question in. You're yelling,
mister President, and he's not recognizing you. He's recognizing you know,
the the quote unquote big media outlets that are you know,

(07:28):
we're actually a fairly good size one, but he's you know,
the ones that come to mine at Fox News, you know,
even CNN, you know, those types of reporters are getting
those questions in and he is not recognizing me. And finally,
in Swanna Noah, North Carolina, where the hurricane hit, I
was able to get a question. I was determined this

(07:50):
was right. Prior to the election. I'm going I am not,
you know, ending this election season without at least asking
him a question. I did ask him, and unlike a
lot of reporters, I'm very proud of this. I asked
him in a very non judgmental way, none of my opinion,
you know in the injected into the question. I simply

(08:12):
asked him, you know, mister president, we are here because
you said you are you wanted to see this damage,
and you're actually, you know, so impressed by the fact
that people lost everything and still early voted. What would
you like to say to those voters right now? And
he gave me a pretty extensive answer, which hello Trump

(08:34):
usually does. But I managed to squeeze in a second
question and said, so, how does this damage compare to other,
you know, disaster areas that you have toured? And he
answered that saying that what was weird about this It
was very random, unlike you know, you know, it wasn't

(08:55):
random like a tornado where sometimes one house will be
skipped and then the other house will be destroyed with
a wide swat of just devastation as far as you
could see. And so he shared that, and that was
that was quite an experience to have him, you know, say,
and when I say, mister President, yes, you know, and
he spoke it talking to me. Wow, you know, but

(09:17):
you know that might sound silly to have that as being,
you know, something that I worked so hard to get.
But it is harder to even get that question asked
than most people ever imagine, including me having been in
the news business hall these years.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Well, that's what's going to be neat about your your
presentation tomorrow evening, because you get you give people sort
of the real life world of a reporter, what you
have to go through and uh, sort of the challenges
that you face, and clearly you've illustrated one are the
challenges your Your competition is all over the place. So
now in terms of the number of events you went to,

(09:50):
sixty did And this wouldn't be a criticism of Donald Trump,
because I have to imagine that, you know, there's only
so much you can say on the campaign trail. But
he does go off and he doesn't rely as much
on a monitor. And I wanted to see if that
was in fact true, because I get the impression that
Donald Trump's is going to say what's on Donald Trump's mind,
he knows where he is on policies and positions. He

(10:11):
doesn't need to read it directly off of a teleprompter,
although he I guess he relies on it sometimes. But
did it become sort of redundant, like okay, here's event
number forty seven and I know exactly what he's going
to say, or did he kind of change it up regularly.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
He actually did manage to squeeze in a number of
new policy positions. So a lot of times he would
do that, you know, it would sort of become a
theme now he did, you know, kind of have your
normal stump speech. Things that he would say pretty much
over and over about immigration, and these things always got
large applause when he would say no men and women's sports,

(10:50):
applause and cheers. You know that that was one of
the biggest applause lines every time he said it. But
he did, for example, when he was in Las Vegas.
I think that venue he chose it to unveil his
no tax on tips because of the heavy you know
how much Las Vegas relies on tourism and service workers

(11:11):
like people who work in restaurants and bars, and you know,
the wonderful Broadway shows things like that uh so Broadway
type shows in Las Vegas. So he he did taylor
a lot of his remarks to the specific place that
you know, I noticed that, And yes, he did tend
to go off off script quite a bit. I did

(11:34):
occasionally get the Trump team to provide me with an
advanced copy of his speech, but you know, it was
usually just excerpts, and you could never necessarily count on
that he would say these exact things because of that
tendency of his to go off script to kind of meander.

(11:54):
Some people call it, you know, you know, would say
that he seemed scatterbrained, but he called is it purposeful?
He calls it the weave where he weaves into other
segues and then comes back, and he says, it takes
skill to come back to where you were.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Well, I don't know if you agree with me or not,
but I because of my hours, I get up at
two thirty in the morning, so quite often I miss
the actual speeches, the presidential addresses, you know, the state
of the nation type of things, because I go to
about at eight. But then I will read the full transcript.
And the one thing I noticed about Trump, he comes
across much better when you're hearing him live, because you know,

(12:31):
being a man of words that I am and my
prior background as a lawyer, I you know, I'm very
cognizant and aware of grammar and use and structure in sentences,
and his doesn't translate on paper as well as it
does when he's in person.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
You know, that seems to be something I've actually heard
other people comment on as well. People tell me there's
nothing like a Trump rally, that it's not the same,
you know, just you know, reading an article or getting
a little sippet of what he said. I do feel
like that based on my you know, observations prior to
covering this campaign, just as a citizen noticing the political process,

(13:11):
that he did seem to be somewhat more on point
with a lot of his messaging. Like I said, they were,
the messages a lot of times were targeted to this
specific place. It seemed to me more specific. Maybe I
just paid more attention, happy to cover it. I got you.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Well, honestly, I'm probably speaking with someone who's got more
experience with live Donald Trump's speeches than virtually anybody in
the nation now in terms of media bias. And I
know you're going to talk about this more at length
again tomorrow beginning at seven pm Empower you America dot org.
Being surrounded by all those reporters since you just mentioned them,
did you could could you hear their bias? I mean

(13:53):
certainly comes across from their reporting. And I'm sure there
were a lot of traditionally, you know, the the mainstream
media or and or left wing rags out there to
covering his speeches. Did did did they make comments or
get to give a sense of media bias, you know,
during the chatter that you were exposed to.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
I didn't pay a lot of attention to other media
because I was so focused on what I was doing.
But there were times when I would hear grumbling I
would see people. This part really bothered me just because
regardless of who is speaking, whether it's a candidate you
love or hate, they were not standing up for the

(14:33):
national anthem. A lot of them not, you know, not
over the pledge of allegiance, that kind of you know,
just I felt steamrolling off my head when I would
notice some of those people was sitting there, And to me,
it's just not respectful, because hello, we all are citizens
of this country and we are practicing a profession enshrined

(14:56):
in our first amendments and you know, you know, to me,
there needs to be respect for that, regardless of how
you feel about the candidate who is on that stage.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Well, it's going to be a wonderful presentation. Empoweroamerica dot
orger is where you register. I encourage my listeners to
do that. You don't even have to leave your own home,
but you certainly can. Three hundred Great Oaks Drive in
Cincinnati is where the empower Use Studio is at Scarlett Oaks,
where you'll hear Janis Heisel speak about a wild ride
covering the Trump twenty twenty four presidential campaign. And you'll
also you're going to hear from about the h I've

(15:28):
had him on my program before, the positive cure for
the drug epidemic these since any Challenge Ranch Jared Mott
Singer is going to lead off with a little presentation
about that as well. It'll be certainly insightful. They're doing
great work there. Jennis, thanks for the time you smell
my listeners of me today and thanks for covering the
Trump campaign. And we'll be following you on the Epoch
or Epic Times. Just find it online. The e E.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
P O. C. H.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Times dot Com. You'd be glad you did. Bookmarket Janis,
thanks again.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
I'm very grateful. Thank you, Brian, have a great day.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
It's a twenty one to fifty five k SEE talk station.
Judge In and Apolitano coming up next. Stick around.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
This is fifty five KARC and iHeartRadio station from the
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