An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar... Podcast
Two previously unlikely friends, an ex-Mormon (Kate) and a never-Mormon (Erika) deconstruct the quirks and contradictions of the Mormon faith with humor and empathy. And cocktails.
Episodes
Two NoMos go LIVE for the first time at the Utah PRIDE Festival! It's a little loud, it's a little messy, it's a lot colorful, but so is life. Happy PRIDE, Everyone!
Kate and Erika were at the Conversion Therapy Survivor Network booth, raising funds for this important and impactful organization. If you are looking for this type of support, or you would like to support the wonderful work this organization is doing, please visit: c...
Two NoMos had too much fun at Pride With Gay Jesus!
The Mormon church humiliates trans folks who dare to attend services by demanding that they be escorted to use the restroom, but is perfectly fine with sending children in to be alone with bishops who ask them VERY intimate questions.
MAKE IT MAKE SENSE....
Two NoMos had a blast at Daybreak Pride! We'll be celebrating Pride all throughout the month of June.
Happy Pride to everyone!!!!
What better way to celebrate PRIDE than to hang with Gay Jesus (aka Ryan Barlow)? He shares his evolution from devout member of the Mormon church, to beacon of hope, love, and support for the LGBTQ community as rainbow, sparkly Jesus.
To open season two of our podcast, we had a very special, vey bedazzled, sparkly guest. It was magical!
We had so much fun with guest Gay Jesus aka Ryan Josiah aka Ryan Barlow, that we decided to have a quick, impromptu, informal photoshoot with him after the recording! This first episode of season two drops on Tuesday, June 3.
Two NoMos have been on a short recording break to gear up for lots of upcoming events and engagements. But next Tuesday, June 3, we're back, Baby! We open season two with very special guest, "Gay Jesus," aka, Ryan Josiah. Spoiler alert: he is neither Jesus nor gay. But he is a local Salt Lake celebrity and activist, fighting the good fight for marginalized groups, particularly LGBTQ. And we were super stoked and honored that he sh...
Folks without a Temple "recommend" are not permitted to enter the Mormon Temple. We didn't realize how dire the consequences would be for doing this... Erika tries the Temple for the very first time, and Kate returns for the first time after leaving the church. Don't try this at home, kids.
Can Kate say "See You Next Tuesday"? Find out in this Trying Moment!
Nothing like "good" Mormons telling racist jokes. Thanks to Channel Achenbach for sharing her afternoon and her story with us!
Women are asked to "cover their faces" during parts of Mormon Temple ceremonies.
This is a quote from a woman whose sister had a panic attack and broke down sobbing the first time she went through the Temple. None of her friends or family were permitted to comfort her, as everyone is required to keep their heads down and plow through the ceremony.
Like Jesus, the Mormon Temple is exclusive and unavailable to many. Wait a minute...
The Mormon Temple and all its rituals are creepy.
In this episode, the Two NoMos dive further into the cult-like rituals and share some terrifying quotes from ExMormons who went through the Temple and came out scathed and traumatized.
To enter the Mormon Temple, a member needs a "recommend." In other words, one needs to be deemed "worthy" enough, and of course, the hefty tithing needs to be paid. God always needs money. While this flies in the face of everything espoused by Jesus (the man, the myth, the legend - however you conceive of this figure), it also doesn't seem to be quite worth it. Once members are "inside" and have the full Temple experience, many fe...
On his mission for the Mormon church, Bryan went to his bishop, distraught by some natural feelings he was having as a young man. Instead of normalizing this, the bishop asked him a humiliating question and shamed him.
In the last episode of "An ExMo and a NeverMo Walk Into a Bar...", Kate and Erika discussed the harmful messaging from the Mormon church around sex, and the damage that does to women. This episode looks at the harm that this messaging does to men. From being grilled about the verboten masturbation, to being shamed for having any sexual feelings whatsoever, the church does a number on men as well as women. This organization may ha...
The Mormon church teaches nothing but shame around sex. This leads to harmful ideologies and dangerously incorrect information. In this clip, Kate shares what she learned about sex from her parents. Spoiler: It's not remotely factual.
Though the title of this episode sounds a lot dirtier than it actually is, it deserves an explicit content warning as Kate and Erika talk about sex, baby.
The Two NoMos discuss the harm caused by purity culture, aka the law of chastity, as taught in the Mormon church. They're joined by an amazing local group of women who were also negatively affected by the church's shame on sex. Now out of this harmful organization, they can be...
It all comes down to money and power.
In this episode, Kate and Erika sit down with poet Kaitlin Shetler to discuss the similarities and differences between the church of Christ and the Mormon church.
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