No Foot Too Small Podcast

In honor of Self-Care Month, we’re breaking down the stigma around what healing really looks like.
Host Jackie Celske is joined by Laurel Wiers—licensed marriage and family therapist, trauma recovery expert, and creator of the MINT method—for a conversation about how grief and trauma imprint on our bodies, and how alternative therapies can help us reclaim peace and power after loss.
Laurel shares her personal journey into tra...

September is National NICU and Infant Mortality Awareness Month and today on September 10th—Henry's birthday—we honor his life with this special episode of the NFTS Podcast.
Hosts Robin Boudreau and Ali Maahs are joined by Courtney Fitzpatrick, who opens her heart to share about her angel Henry’s birth, NICU journey, and the sacred hours she and her husband spent holding him, loving him, and saying goodbye.
Courtney refle...

In honor of National Stillbirth Prevention & Awareness Day (September 19), we’re sharing an episode that brings legal insight and lived experience into one powerful conversation.
Hosts Jackie Celske and Ali Maahs sit down with Jill Wieber Lens—a law professor, loss mom, author and national advocate working to change how stillbirth is understood, researched, and talked about in this country.
Jill shares the story of her son, Caleb...

In honor of Rainbow Baby Day, we’re spotlighting one of our most meaningful partnerships—Owlet Cares.
In this episode, NFTS hosts Jackie Celske and Ali Maahs are joined by Amanda Nelson, Manager of Advocacy and Healthcare Marketing at Owlet, to explore the evolving partnership between our two organizations and how it’s helping support families through the complex journey of pregnancy after loss.
Amanda shares how the mission behind O...

August means back-to-school, and for many families, it also means navigating a new year with the weight of grief and the memory of a child who isn’t physically here.
In honor of Bereaved Parents Month, this special episode features public school educator Katie Gaffney and school mental health therapist Sally Wiley, who share their unique perspectives on how grief shows up in the classroom and how to better support children who h...

In this special episode honoring Bereaved Parents Month, we’re joined by writer, mother, and advocate Jenny Albers, whose words have reached thousands of families walking through pregnancy and infant loss. Jenny shares the story behind her book Courageously Expecting, the early and late pregnancy losses that shaped her, and how writing became her way of making sure no one feels alone in grief again.
Together, we talk about the e...

NFTS Podcast hosts, Jackie Celske and Robin Boudreau, are joined by Dr. Lyndsey Day—OBGYN physician, loss mom, and advocate—as she shares how the tragic loss of her daughter Ada changed the way she practices medicine and supports grieving families.
Long before her personal experience, Dr. Day had witnessed the heartbreak of pregnancy and infant loss in her role as a physician. But it wasn’t until she walked through her own loss ...

Kia and Ryan join us to share the story of their son, Wells, who was stillborn at 28 weeks. From the five days Kia carried him after hearing the words no parent ever should, to the blue balloon that appeared on a golf course after his memorial, their story is full of honesty, heartbreak, and meaning.
They talk about what it was like to walk back into the same hospital to deliver their rainbow baby, Penelope, less than a year later, ...

In this special Father’s Day episode of the No Foot Too Small Podcast, sponsored by Carson Wealth, Jackie Celske sits down with Jay Petersen and his dad, Steve, for an honest and emotional conversation about fatherhood and generational grief.
Jay shares the heartbreaking story of losing his son, Hayes, and the deep emotional toll that followed. He reflects on the isolation many grieving fathers feel, how community has helped him...

What happens when the world’s leading grief expert is also a grieving parent?
In this episode of the No Foot Too Small Podcast, Jackie Celske and Ali Maahs sit down with David Kessler — renowned grief educator, author, and founder of Grief.com — for a candid conversation about what grief really looks like after pregnancy and infant loss.
David shares his personal story of losing his son, how that changed everything he thought...

Mother’s Day can be complicated—especially for those who carry motherhood in ways the world doesn’t always see.

In this episode of the No Foot Too Small Podcast, we welcome Becca and her mom, Vicky Vogl, for a deeply honest and emotional conversation about what it means to be a mother—and a daughter—when love and loss walk hand in hand.

Becca shares her journey through six pregnancies: one adoption, multiple miscarriages, a stillbirt...

In honor of Infertility Awareness Week, hosts Jackie Celske and Robin Boudreau welcome guest Kelsey Ruwe, who shares her powerful journey through infertility, loss, and motherhood. Kelsey recounts a multi-year battle with infertility, undergoing multiple IUI and IVF treatments, including the emotional and physical toll it took. After years of trying, she became pregnant through IVF, only to lose her son, Isaac, at 20 weeks due to m...

In this episode of the No Foot Too Small Podcast, Jenny Durand and Paige Lenz open up about the heartbreak of early pregnancy loss, the struggles of infertility, and the friendship that changed everything. From the devastation of miscarriage to the emotional weight of waiting for a baby that may never come, they share the complexities of grief, hope, and finding support in one another.
By sharing their stories, Jenny and Paige h...

The silence surrounding pregnancy and infant loss can be deafening—but every baby’s name deserves to be spoken. In this episode of the No Foot Too Small Podcast, Fiona Ellis-Jones (Fee), ambassador for Red Nose Australia, joins hosts Jackie Celske and Robin Boudreau to share her powerful story and the impact of Say Their Name Day—a global movement encouraging families to honor their babies out loud. Fee opens up about her twin preg...

In this episode of the No Foot Too Small Podcast, Kaleb and Haley Admire share their journey after receiving a Trisomy 13 diagnosis for their son, Matthew. They open up about the impossible choices they faced, the 33 precious hours they spent with Matthew, and how faith, family, and the NFTS community helped them find strength through grief.
From the unique challenges fathers face in loss to the critical need for bereavement sui...

In this powerful episode of the No Foot Too Small Podcast, host Jackie Celske sits down with Ali Maahs, Director of Family Support, and Executive Director and Co-Founder, Robin Boudreau, to discuss the heart of NFTS: showing up for and supporting families through pregnancy and infant loss. 
Ali shares her personal journey—how her daughter Naomi led her to No Foot Too Small—and how that experience fuels her passion to support oth...

In this episode, host Jackie Celske is joined by Robin Boudreau, Kara Koster, and the Colwell family to share stories from past events, the meaning behind the fundraising campaign, and what to expect in 2025. From the origins of Angels in the Outfield to the unforgettable memories it creates for families, this conversation will inspire both new and returning families to step up to the plate for their angel(s).

Part 1: Robin and Kara...

Music has a way of expressing what words alone cannot. 💙

In this emotional episode of the No Foot Too Small Podcast, host Robin Boudreau sits down with country artist Dalles Jacobus and songwriter CJ Gaston to share the powerful story behind a song that left an entire room in tears at the 11th Annual No Foot Too Small Gala.

Dalles and CJ open up about the writing process, the personal stories that inspired the lyrics, and the divine...

Welcome to the very first episode of the No Foot Too Small Podcast! In this deeply personal conversation, Robin and Ryan Boudreau, co-founders of No Foot Too Small, share the story that started it all—the story of their son Beau. From the heartbreak of loss to the creation of a nationwide movement, they open up about their journey, the power of community, and how No Foot Too Small is changing the way families experience pregnancy a...