March 3, 2017 • 20 mins
Video shows Dalia Dippolito telling an undercover cop she wants her husband dead, but screaming later when police tell her he had been killed. Still, two Florida juries have refused to convict Dippolito of hiring a hit man. Dippolito lawyer Brian Claypool argues Boynton Beach police pressured an informant to set her up so the “Cops” reality show could record it. Nancy Grace debates the Dippolito case in this episode.
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Dahlia Defilito walking out a free woman after a judge
declared a mistrial and her murder for higher retrial. This
is Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a confidential police informant
and former lover of Dahlia di Folito, testified in court
Tuesday that he was pressured to set to Polito up
for arrest by the boy in Beach Police Department or
else face prosecution. She was accused of trying to hire
(00:28):
a hitman to kill her husband. In Beach. Police staged
the fake crime scene where they told di Polito her
husband was dead and allowed film crows from the TV
show Cops to record the entire ordeal. I'm Sorgo Ramsay,
and we had a report of a disturbance at your
house and there were shots fired as your husband Michael. Okay,
I'm sorry to tell you man, he's been killed. He's
been killed. Try right now, we need to we need
(00:57):
to get I'm not just one percent sure I want
him dead. I'm two percent sure. Wait now, I'm five
thousand percent sure I want my husband dead. I'm not
what you think I am. I'm not as sweet as
you think. I'm a mean little cookie. Yeah, I am
(01:19):
quoting to the best of my recollection, Dahlia di Polito.
You've got to remember this. This woman marries seemingly in
love and the next thing you know, according to police,
she's caught on video hiring a hit man to murder
her husband over what to get her mitts on a
(01:42):
two hunt dollar condo. Now, according to the husband and
I spoke to him and his lawyer, she tried to
kill him before with Chai tea from Starbucks. Didn't work,
so she decided to go with a hit man who
happened to be an undercover agent, and he video and
audio taped the whole darn thing. This is crime Stories.
(02:04):
I'm Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being
with us. I'm talking about the Florida Black widow, Dahlia
Dippolito and Oh my stars, Meryl Street. Watch out because
they video the whole thing. They set up a sting
to make it look like the husband had been killed.
They told him what was going on, so they set
it up as if he'd been killed. Then they find
(02:25):
Dahlia Dippolito. They go tell her. She puts on a
performance like no other. Let's take a listen to that
audio and if you could just see the video but
listen to this, just kick back and enjoy roll it. Alan,
I'm sorry, d Ramsey, I'm I'm not want to call you.
Thank you for comment. I'm sorry to call you. Listen.
(02:46):
We had a report of a disturbance at your house
and there were shots fired. Is your husband Michael? Okay,
I'm sorry to tell you man, he's been killed. He's
been killed. IM up right now, we need to do
she tried. She beins over willing about her dead husband.
(03:10):
They take her to the police station and after questioning her,
they let her see him alive and well, and she
screamed out like, I didn't do it. My question isn't
running from I can't like them. I cannot do this
right now. On trial, the defense was she was, actually,
(03:35):
you want to help trying to be a reality star
like the Kardashian and this whole thing was a TV
reality show and she thought the under the hit man
was it and so this whole thing was a script. Now.
My question and that was, well, why didn't she tell
(03:56):
the police when they arrested her? Hey, hey, hey, whoa
wait wait, this was just a reality these shows, GrITT,
what are you talking about. No, she never said a
word until they finally got to trial about a year
and a half later. Then that was the defense. Now,
Brian Claypool, they got an hung jury. Defense attorney, fairly
well known Brian Claypool says that's no longer the defense.
(04:19):
There's a new defense that the police tried to and
trap her, that they didn't have enough criminals to deal with,
that they wanted to frame an innocent person, Dollia to
Polito so they could be on the show Cops before
I go to very well known defense attorney Brian Claypool
(04:39):
is defending Dollia this time around with a brand new defense.
I guess the truth changed. I want to think Simply
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simply Safe. Joining me right now is the attorney for
Dahlia Dipolito, yet another black widow in my book, Brian Claypool.
(05:48):
He is no stranger to the courtroom. Brian Claypool. You know,
I just it hurts me to see you thrown in
the same pot stewing with Dolia Polido. I mean, hey,
all I can say is all I can say is
don't take a chi tea from this woman, Okay, I
(06:10):
mean because you know this ain't her first time at
the rodeo. Husband told me point blank that she tried
to kill him before this with some chi tea from Starbucks.
What is that anyway? I don't even know what chi
tea is, but whatever it is, he the husband says,
she tried to kill him with that. It didn't work. Brian,
(06:31):
I've yet to have coffee at Starbucks with Dahlia. But
but I'll tell you this much. Remember Nancy law school
one oh one, Remember that doctrine, Remember that doctrine that
she got taught about fruit of the poisonous tree. It's
it's a big remember that one. Well, that's that's what
this case is about. It's it's about police officers and
(06:51):
law enforcement who can't break the rules, violate the law,
and then use the evidence they've generated from from from
a corrupt investigation to a case somebody, even if you
think that person is guilty. It's it's basic law. One
on one, Brian, let me understand this, um, your your
defense is it no longer that when she hired a
(07:12):
hit man to kill her husband, it's all called on video,
which I love. I love watching Dollia Dippolto, especially when
they tell her the husband is dead and she's like,
oh I love that so much and she bends over
in grieve blah blah blah. Anyway, also like I also
like the one where she's got in the car with
(07:34):
a hit man and the whole thing is bugged and
you know, got triked out with video and she's not
just a hud. Sure she says what, I'm five thousand
percent sure I want him dead. Now, I thought your
defense was that that was really a script for a
reality show. Is that not the offense anymore? No that
remember this. The second trial we did was in late November,
(07:57):
and we got a jury. We got a hung jury
in early December. And in fact, I know, I brace yourself,
I don't want you to pass out. But five jurors
in our favorite it was three to three. And then
there were two alternate jurors in the last trial, and
one of the TV shows Blue was Dateline tracked them
(08:18):
down the two alternates think guess what. I must have
been able to put something in the coffee of those
five jurors because they voted to a quit Dalia Dippelito.
And in fact, Nancy Love how did wait? Wait, how
many jurors were there? Fifty? Yeah, well, well in Florida
and Florida. And by the way, we're gonna have the
(08:40):
third trial. I don't know if you knew this. The
third retrial of Dalia Dippilito takes place. It starts on
June second. I could not be happier. I could not
be happier. I may just have to come down there
and watch you. Brian clay Boo, now, like something very
seriously said before you started talking about this girar in
(09:01):
that Gerard did this one and that one according to dateline. Uh,
first they were alternatives, thank god in heaven. But you said, oh,
that was the defense at the second trial, So you've
got a different defense. That's not the defense the board
that it was all a script. Yeah, right, the the
the the reality script is not is not part of
(09:23):
the defense. Why if it's the truth, because that's not,
because it's not true. The reality is this and a
lot of your she sat there in court and let
her lawyers say all the things she said to a
hit man. She thought that was a script, not a lawyers. Yeah, no,
(09:46):
it's it's it's uh yeah, I mean you keep you
keep coming back to this try t or Latte. I
mean I think something something must have been in that
shy of her first lawyer. Well, what's the defense this time.
It's a defence this time that the police did it.
It's their fault. I'm just so happy. Yeah, well, look
(10:08):
it's not. It's not. It's not it's not been their fault.
With a lot of trying not to laugh out loud,
because okay, I'm trying not to laugh outlet that first
phone call. People don't realize this The first phone call
made by the confidential informants to the Boy and Beach
Police Department reported a domestic abuse concern, and that person
(10:33):
reported that he that that Dolly has said the following. Okay,
here's what she said, Nancy, Okay, I'm listening. I can't wait.
She said two things. She said. Number one, I've been
I've been physically abused by my husband, and I I
I either want to be dead or he needs to
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be dead. That is the context of the first phone call.
And the problem that the state prost you're gonna have
in this case again is that nobody took serious this
domestic abuse call. They didn't. They didn't filter that out, vetted.
Let me get back. I'm want to go back even
earlier than that. Brian Claypool. Is it true that Dahlia
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de polito first date with her husband was when he
paid her because she was a hooker? She was not
an escort whenever rubbed down and out and I need
a good laugh. I'm gonna call you. Wait, you're telling
me she was not a hooker. That is comical. I mean,
(11:42):
what are you telling me she was not a hooker? Act?
On the was she was? She an escort. He was
not an escort. Mike, listen, you're listen, Nancy, You're you're
you're believing it convicted felon who who propagated that story.
Here's a guy who says, okay from elderly folk. Now
(12:05):
that's what he says. He says that she was an escort,
and that's how we met her. Why would you believe
somebody who lies the elderly folks and builds money out
of them. Yeah, they were certainly perfect for each other.
You're not gonna fall for that, Mike Depolito trap, are
you watch out? Um? Yeah? Probably? Then how did they meet?
(12:27):
You know what? I know you're gonna think this is
a joke and I'm not trying to I'm not right
and Sundays go over again. But they met at a Starbucks. Yes,
it was a Starbucks. So that's where they met. Okay,
because I'm looking at evidence. I'm looking at evidence right now,
which our texts from her phone where she is um,
(12:53):
where she's saying hi, and she's using her pseudo name,
and he goes, great, I so hook up next week.
But question, can we forget the hourly fee and just
go out for drinks? And then is that day or
my ex girlfriend's phone? I can't which one is it?
(13:14):
And then he says, um, how are you coming dressed?
I would love you in a real short skirt with
pink underwear, if that's okay, She writes back, sure, And
she is setting up a hook up for money. So
you're telling me that's not a hooker. Yeah, that's not that,
(13:35):
absolutely not. I don't know where that wasn't that that
would never come in That's never gonna come into evidence anyway.
You know that. Even if that's true, and I didn't
say it was coming into evidence, I'm asking you what
the truth is. I'll tell you where I saw it.
I said, the New Times at Broward Palm Beach newspaper.
That's where it is, the New Times. It's printed. I believe.
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I've me that's fiction, and I don't. There's no proof
that's her phone and that she's making those text messages
all hearsay, So I don't put any value into that
at all. I mean, I know her two years now,
I've got to know her family. Nobody wants to know
the human side of her. Everybody. I think I know
the human side. I think I know that Brian Claypool.
(14:21):
I think I know the human side because she was
on house arrest with her mother and had the right
to go to her lawyer and to church, and somehow
she got pregnant. How did that happen on house arrested?
I think she was somewhere else. Hey, you aren't suggesting
on the dad, are you. No. I hadn't thought of that,
(14:42):
but now that you brought it up, come on, Hey,
wait good you think are you suggesting that one of
those lawyers. One of her meetings with the lawyers, maybe
that didn't take place at the legal office. Oh, I
am just looking at all the texts that this woman
is sending. But you still say she was never a hooker. Okay,
(15:04):
it looks like you're under Dollya di Polito's spell. I'm
worried about you. Brian Claypool. Well, you know that Dolly
actually mentors some of the some of the people at church.
She goes religious Dear Lord in Heaven. So you know, people,
You've been in cases before where people are portrayed one
way in the public but they're not really that's not
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really who they are, you know. So so Dolly, so
let me understand this. You say she was not a hooker,
that she met her husband slash would be would be
murder victim at a starbarhooks, and that she never tried
to put water or engine cool in her husband's coffee.
That was another it was hi kee. And then you're
(15:49):
saying the first defense that she sat there and and
lived through where they claimed in front of a jury
that all the things she said caught on tape and
the way she cried and carried on when they told
the cops told her he was dead, but actually it
was a staying to see what she would do. They
found out about it through the alleged hit man, and
(16:10):
the husband wasn't killed. And then when she saw the
husband at the police says, she goes, mikey, I didn't
do it. I didn't do it. Do what? Why would
she say that anyway? Okay, so you're saying that was
not that was not true. So the defense this time
is going to be what was your defense? Yeah? The
defense this time is that the police department not only
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violated his own policies and procedures and trying to set
her up and lure her. You know what it's like, Nancy,
You know what was like have you ever gone fishing
as a girl growing up? You throw that line out
into the lake and you start pulling, you know, twisting
and turned, pulling your line in and trying to hook
a fish. That's exactly what this police department did. They
(16:56):
were they were trying luring her in, hooking her in,
trying to get her on. Because they have so many resources,
they don't have enough dopers and killers and sex offenders.
They got to go try and get Dollia Dipolete out,
not a hooker. Okay, So they spend their spare time
trying to frame an innocent person. Okay, oh absolutely, you
(17:18):
want to know why. Let me let me tell you, Nancy,
you always talk about motive, don't you write? You always
talk about motive. Let me give you the motive real quick.
I'm I'm, I'm pins and needles. Yeah, okay, alright, brace
yourself again. I don't want the paramedics over here. Here's
another one. We've found an email for the second trial
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that the chief the police defending an email out everybody
the police department say hey, let me know when that
view when the first episode of Cops comes out with Dolly,
and it's so we can have a big viewing party.
Ha ha ha. Well that really doesn't bother. They're more
(18:00):
worried about a good TV show for cops than they
are up they're not. Dolia Dippilto tried to kill her
husband at least once so she could get ahold of
his condo, and it was all on video, and that
happened to be when cops was in that jurisdiction filming,
and that's what happened, and then it was all over.
(18:23):
She's so obviously guilty. They were gonna watch it and
get a kind of a laugh off of it because
they couldn't believe anybody would be so darn dumb as
Dolia Dippolito. Well, Nancy, I'm gonna throw you. I'm gonna
throw you a consolation prize now if you if here's
my consolation prize to you. If I get Dolia quitted
in June, I'm gonna force you to meet her. We're
(18:43):
gonna all meet for coffee at Star but I want
to meet her, but I'm not drinking any coffee. I'm
not drinking any coffee, Okay. I you're gonna have a
face to face with her. I'm gonna bring my own
I'm bringing my own coffee in a armos. You can
count on that, Okay, Bryan claypol I'm afraid that defense
(19:05):
is going to change by the time you finally take
it to trial. Brian Claypool. Okay, Claypool, seeing court man,
thanks for being with us. Thank you. But I love
Okay Alan, Alan, did you hear that was incredible? I
love that guy's Oh he's still here. If you do
(19:27):
get her acquitted, I want to come to that coffee.
See what is it with you men? Can't you see
through her? Don't get near her with a ten foot
pollet for Pete's sake, don't have coffee with her. Trying
to save you darn lives here, I'm trying to save
your life. Claypool, you better watch out, Claypool. I'm serious,
(19:51):
but I'm not going to She would love nothing more
than to marry She would love to nothing more than
to marry a successful lawyer like there you and then off. Yeah,
I mean, I I mean, there were there were rumors
floating around the deck. The kid was mine for a while.
But well, I'm sorry to disappoint you, Brian, but I
have not built that Look you already think so lowly
(20:12):
of me for sending you. I don't want you to
think worse. I can assure you one fact. It's not
my baby, okay, not good to know, good to know?
And you know what Shakespeare said, me thinks thou dost
protest too much? It's too funny. Again. I want to
thank Simply Safe for being with us on this podcast.
(20:32):
Simply Safe. Thank you for making home security affordable because
I want to protect my family and I'm sure everybody
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signing off, Goodbye friend
Dahlia Defilito walking out a free woman after a judge
declared a mistrial and her murder for higher retrial. This
is Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a confidential police informant
and former lover of Dahlia di Folito, testified in court
Tuesday that he was pressured to set to Polito up
for arrest by the boy in Beach Police Department or
else face prosecution. She was accused of trying to hire
(00:28):
a hitman to kill her husband. In Beach. Police staged
the fake crime scene where they told di Polito her
husband was dead and allowed film crows from the TV
show Cops to record the entire ordeal. I'm Sorgo Ramsay,
and we had a report of a disturbance at your
house and there were shots fired as your husband Michael. Okay,
I'm sorry to tell you man, he's been killed. He's
been killed. Try right now, we need to we need
(00:57):
to get I'm not just one percent sure I want
him dead. I'm two percent sure. Wait now, I'm five
thousand percent sure I want my husband dead. I'm not
what you think I am. I'm not as sweet as
you think. I'm a mean little cookie. Yeah, I am
(01:19):
quoting to the best of my recollection, Dahlia di Polito.
You've got to remember this. This woman marries seemingly in
love and the next thing you know, according to police,
she's caught on video hiring a hit man to murder
her husband over what to get her mitts on a
(01:42):
two hunt dollar condo. Now, according to the husband and
I spoke to him and his lawyer, she tried to
kill him before with Chai tea from Starbucks. Didn't work,
so she decided to go with a hit man who
happened to be an undercover agent, and he video and
audio taped the whole darn thing. This is crime Stories.
(02:04):
I'm Nancy Grace. I want to thank you for being
with us. I'm talking about the Florida Black widow, Dahlia
Dippolito and Oh my stars, Meryl Street. Watch out because
they video the whole thing. They set up a sting
to make it look like the husband had been killed.
They told him what was going on, so they set
it up as if he'd been killed. Then they find
(02:25):
Dahlia Dippolito. They go tell her. She puts on a
performance like no other. Let's take a listen to that
audio and if you could just see the video but
listen to this, just kick back and enjoy roll it. Alan,
I'm sorry, d Ramsey, I'm I'm not want to call you.
Thank you for comment. I'm sorry to call you. Listen.
(02:46):
We had a report of a disturbance at your house
and there were shots fired. Is your husband Michael? Okay,
I'm sorry to tell you man, he's been killed. He's
been killed. IM up right now, we need to do
she tried. She beins over willing about her dead husband.
(03:10):
They take her to the police station and after questioning her,
they let her see him alive and well, and she
screamed out like, I didn't do it. My question isn't
running from I can't like them. I cannot do this
right now. On trial, the defense was she was, actually,
(03:35):
you want to help trying to be a reality star
like the Kardashian and this whole thing was a TV
reality show and she thought the under the hit man
was it and so this whole thing was a script. Now.
My question and that was, well, why didn't she tell
(03:56):
the police when they arrested her? Hey, hey, hey, whoa
wait wait, this was just a reality these shows, GrITT,
what are you talking about. No, she never said a
word until they finally got to trial about a year
and a half later. Then that was the defense. Now,
Brian Claypool, they got an hung jury. Defense attorney, fairly
well known Brian Claypool says that's no longer the defense.
(04:19):
There's a new defense that the police tried to and
trap her, that they didn't have enough criminals to deal with,
that they wanted to frame an innocent person, Dollia to
Polito so they could be on the show Cops before
I go to very well known defense attorney Brian Claypool
(04:39):
is defending Dollia this time around with a brand new defense.
I guess the truth changed. I want to think Simply
Safe our sponsor for making this podcast possible. Simply Safe
makes home security affordable at a month. It is so
simple to install. They even have a video online and
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I swear my children, who are nine years old, could
install this thing. The thing I like about it is
that it is not connected to your landline or your
cell phone, so if someone were to cut the line
to your home, this security alarm is not dependent on that.
It's got its own cell activation, so you don't have
to worry about that. It's just not right that wealthy
(05:25):
people can have home security and everybody else cannot. Well,
simply Safe has fixed that. Go to simply safe dot com,
slash Nancy and get another temper cent off. Thank you,
simply Safe. Joining me right now is the attorney for
Dahlia Dipolito, yet another black widow in my book, Brian Claypool.
(05:48):
He is no stranger to the courtroom. Brian Claypool. You know,
I just it hurts me to see you thrown in
the same pot stewing with Dolia Polido. I mean, hey,
all I can say is all I can say is
don't take a chi tea from this woman, Okay, I
(06:10):
mean because you know this ain't her first time at
the rodeo. Husband told me point blank that she tried
to kill him before this with some chi tea from Starbucks.
What is that anyway? I don't even know what chi
tea is, but whatever it is, he the husband says,
she tried to kill him with that. It didn't work. Brian,
(06:31):
I've yet to have coffee at Starbucks with Dahlia. But
but I'll tell you this much. Remember Nancy law school
one oh one, Remember that doctrine, Remember that doctrine that
she got taught about fruit of the poisonous tree. It's
it's a big remember that one. Well, that's that's what
this case is about. It's it's about police officers and
(06:51):
law enforcement who can't break the rules, violate the law,
and then use the evidence they've generated from from from
a corrupt investigation to a case somebody, even if you
think that person is guilty. It's it's basic law. One
on one, Brian, let me understand this, um, your your
defense is it no longer that when she hired a
(07:12):
hit man to kill her husband, it's all called on video,
which I love. I love watching Dollia Dippolto, especially when
they tell her the husband is dead and she's like,
oh I love that so much and she bends over
in grieve blah blah blah. Anyway, also like I also
like the one where she's got in the car with
(07:34):
a hit man and the whole thing is bugged and
you know, got triked out with video and she's not
just a hud. Sure she says what, I'm five thousand
percent sure I want him dead. Now, I thought your
defense was that that was really a script for a
reality show. Is that not the offense anymore? No that
remember this. The second trial we did was in late November,
(07:57):
and we got a jury. We got a hung jury
in early December. And in fact, I know, I brace yourself,
I don't want you to pass out. But five jurors
in our favorite it was three to three. And then
there were two alternate jurors in the last trial, and
one of the TV shows Blue was Dateline tracked them
(08:18):
down the two alternates think guess what. I must have
been able to put something in the coffee of those
five jurors because they voted to a quit Dalia Dippelito.
And in fact, Nancy Love how did wait? Wait, how
many jurors were there? Fifty? Yeah, well, well in Florida
and Florida. And by the way, we're gonna have the
(08:40):
third trial. I don't know if you knew this. The
third retrial of Dalia Dippilito takes place. It starts on
June second. I could not be happier. I could not
be happier. I may just have to come down there
and watch you. Brian clay Boo, now, like something very
seriously said before you started talking about this girar in
(09:01):
that Gerard did this one and that one according to dateline. Uh,
first they were alternatives, thank god in heaven. But you said, oh,
that was the defense at the second trial, So you've
got a different defense. That's not the defense the board
that it was all a script. Yeah, right, the the
the the reality script is not is not part of
(09:23):
the defense. Why if it's the truth, because that's not,
because it's not true. The reality is this and a
lot of your she sat there in court and let
her lawyers say all the things she said to a
hit man. She thought that was a script, not a lawyers. Yeah, no,
(09:46):
it's it's it's uh yeah, I mean you keep you
keep coming back to this try t or Latte. I
mean I think something something must have been in that
shy of her first lawyer. Well, what's the defense this time.
It's a defence this time that the police did it.
It's their fault. I'm just so happy. Yeah, well, look
(10:08):
it's not. It's not. It's not it's not been their fault.
With a lot of trying not to laugh out loud,
because okay, I'm trying not to laugh outlet that first
phone call. People don't realize this The first phone call
made by the confidential informants to the Boy and Beach
Police Department reported a domestic abuse concern, and that person
(10:33):
reported that he that that Dolly has said the following. Okay,
here's what she said, Nancy, Okay, I'm listening. I can't wait.
She said two things. She said. Number one, I've been
I've been physically abused by my husband, and I I
I either want to be dead or he needs to
(10:53):
be dead. That is the context of the first phone call.
And the problem that the state prost you're gonna have
in this case again is that nobody took serious this
domestic abuse call. They didn't. They didn't filter that out, vetted.
Let me get back. I'm want to go back even
earlier than that. Brian Claypool. Is it true that Dahlia
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de polito first date with her husband was when he
paid her because she was a hooker? She was not
an escort whenever rubbed down and out and I need
a good laugh. I'm gonna call you. Wait, you're telling
me she was not a hooker. That is comical. I mean,
(11:42):
what are you telling me she was not a hooker? Act?
On the was she was? She an escort. He was
not an escort. Mike, listen, you're listen, Nancy, You're you're
you're believing it convicted felon who who propagated that story.
Here's a guy who says, okay from elderly folk. Now
(12:05):
that's what he says. He says that she was an escort,
and that's how we met her. Why would you believe
somebody who lies the elderly folks and builds money out
of them. Yeah, they were certainly perfect for each other.
You're not gonna fall for that, Mike Depolito trap, are
you watch out? Um? Yeah? Probably? Then how did they meet?
(12:27):
You know what? I know you're gonna think this is
a joke and I'm not trying to I'm not right
and Sundays go over again. But they met at a Starbucks. Yes,
it was a Starbucks. So that's where they met. Okay,
because I'm looking at evidence. I'm looking at evidence right now,
which our texts from her phone where she is um,
(12:53):
where she's saying hi, and she's using her pseudo name,
and he goes, great, I so hook up next week.
But question, can we forget the hourly fee and just
go out for drinks? And then is that day or
my ex girlfriend's phone? I can't which one is it?
(13:14):
And then he says, um, how are you coming dressed?
I would love you in a real short skirt with
pink underwear, if that's okay, She writes back, sure, And
she is setting up a hook up for money. So
you're telling me that's not a hooker. Yeah, that's not that,
(13:35):
absolutely not. I don't know where that wasn't that that
would never come in That's never gonna come into evidence anyway.
You know that. Even if that's true, and I didn't
say it was coming into evidence, I'm asking you what
the truth is. I'll tell you where I saw it.
I said, the New Times at Broward Palm Beach newspaper.
That's where it is, the New Times. It's printed. I believe.
(13:59):
I've me that's fiction, and I don't. There's no proof
that's her phone and that she's making those text messages
all hearsay, So I don't put any value into that
at all. I mean, I know her two years now,
I've got to know her family. Nobody wants to know
the human side of her. Everybody. I think I know
the human side. I think I know that Brian Claypool.
(14:21):
I think I know the human side because she was
on house arrest with her mother and had the right
to go to her lawyer and to church, and somehow
she got pregnant. How did that happen on house arrested?
I think she was somewhere else. Hey, you aren't suggesting
on the dad, are you. No. I hadn't thought of that,
(14:42):
but now that you brought it up, come on, Hey,
wait good you think are you suggesting that one of
those lawyers. One of her meetings with the lawyers, maybe
that didn't take place at the legal office. Oh, I
am just looking at all the texts that this woman
is sending. But you still say she was never a hooker. Okay,
(15:04):
it looks like you're under Dollya di Polito's spell. I'm
worried about you. Brian Claypool. Well, you know that Dolly
actually mentors some of the some of the people at church.
She goes religious Dear Lord in Heaven. So you know, people,
You've been in cases before where people are portrayed one
way in the public but they're not really that's not
(15:25):
really who they are, you know. So so Dolly, so
let me understand this. You say she was not a hooker,
that she met her husband slash would be would be
murder victim at a starbarhooks, and that she never tried
to put water or engine cool in her husband's coffee.
That was another it was hi kee. And then you're
(15:49):
saying the first defense that she sat there and and
lived through where they claimed in front of a jury
that all the things she said caught on tape and
the way she cried and carried on when they told
the cops told her he was dead, but actually it
was a staying to see what she would do. They
found out about it through the alleged hit man, and
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the husband wasn't killed. And then when she saw the
husband at the police says, she goes, mikey, I didn't
do it. I didn't do it. Do what? Why would
she say that anyway? Okay, so you're saying that was
not that was not true. So the defense this time
is going to be what was your defense? Yeah? The
defense this time is that the police department not only
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violated his own policies and procedures and trying to set
her up and lure her. You know what it's like, Nancy,
You know what was like have you ever gone fishing
as a girl growing up? You throw that line out
into the lake and you start pulling, you know, twisting
and turned, pulling your line in and trying to hook
a fish. That's exactly what this police department did. They
(16:56):
were they were trying luring her in, hooking her in,
trying to get her on. Because they have so many resources,
they don't have enough dopers and killers and sex offenders.
They got to go try and get Dollia Dipolete out,
not a hooker. Okay, So they spend their spare time
trying to frame an innocent person. Okay, oh absolutely, you
(17:18):
want to know why. Let me let me tell you, Nancy,
you always talk about motive, don't you write? You always
talk about motive. Let me give you the motive real quick.
I'm I'm, I'm pins and needles. Yeah, okay, alright, brace
yourself again. I don't want the paramedics over here. Here's
another one. We've found an email for the second trial
(17:40):
that the chief the police defending an email out everybody
the police department say hey, let me know when that
view when the first episode of Cops comes out with Dolly,
and it's so we can have a big viewing party.
Ha ha ha. Well that really doesn't bother. They're more
(18:00):
worried about a good TV show for cops than they
are up they're not. Dolia Dippilto tried to kill her
husband at least once so she could get ahold of
his condo, and it was all on video, and that
happened to be when cops was in that jurisdiction filming,
and that's what happened, and then it was all over.
(18:23):
She's so obviously guilty. They were gonna watch it and
get a kind of a laugh off of it because
they couldn't believe anybody would be so darn dumb as
Dolia Dippolito. Well, Nancy, I'm gonna throw you. I'm gonna
throw you a consolation prize now if you if here's
my consolation prize to you. If I get Dolia quitted
in June, I'm gonna force you to meet her. We're
(18:43):
gonna all meet for coffee at Star but I want
to meet her, but I'm not drinking any coffee. I'm
not drinking any coffee, Okay. I you're gonna have a
face to face with her. I'm gonna bring my own
I'm bringing my own coffee in a armos. You can
count on that, Okay, Bryan claypol I'm afraid that defense
(19:05):
is going to change by the time you finally take
it to trial. Brian Claypool. Okay, Claypool, seeing court man,
thanks for being with us. Thank you. But I love
Okay Alan, Alan, did you hear that was incredible? I
love that guy's Oh he's still here. If you do
(19:27):
get her acquitted, I want to come to that coffee.
See what is it with you men? Can't you see
through her? Don't get near her with a ten foot
pollet for Pete's sake, don't have coffee with her. Trying
to save you darn lives here, I'm trying to save
your life. Claypool, you better watch out, Claypool. I'm serious,
(19:51):
but I'm not going to She would love nothing more
than to marry She would love to nothing more than
to marry a successful lawyer like there you and then off. Yeah,
I mean, I I mean, there were there were rumors
floating around the deck. The kid was mine for a while.
But well, I'm sorry to disappoint you, Brian, but I
have not built that Look you already think so lowly
(20:12):
of me for sending you. I don't want you to
think worse. I can assure you one fact. It's not
my baby, okay, not good to know, good to know?
And you know what Shakespeare said, me thinks thou dost
protest too much? It's too funny. Again. I want to
thank Simply Safe for being with us on this podcast.
(20:32):
Simply Safe. Thank you for making home security affordable because
I want to protect my family and I'm sure everybody
else does too. Thank you, Simply Safe. Nancy Grace Crime Stories,
signing off, Goodbye friend
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