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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wonderful 360, it's open line talk back, which means
it's time for Thursday morning,the healthy shift.
Here we go.
Gonna be some sweet time comingdown tonight.
I bet you're singing right.
Oh, you know, people like meare annoying in the extreme in

(00:33):
what way?
Well, you know, does anybodycare whether it's a zero or an O
?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
We corrected them all the time.
It's triple zero.
It's triple zero, triple zero.
Yep, it's triple zero, becauseif you dial triple are you dial
the wrong number.
So it's we need triple zero.
It is always corrected them.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
And were you encouraged to make the
distinction?

Speaker 2 (01:00):
No, it's just arrogance, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
But should we get away with?
The people right now I say areeither furious at me or thinking
well done tone.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Somebody's needed to point that out that will be an
English school teacher or a mathteacher out there.
That will be a standing andapplauding you right now, tony,
and they can ring on.
Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yes, that's funny, benny, Are you okay?
You happy you're smiling.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yes, but you started to say they can call us on O4.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
They can't they can call us on 1, double 3, 6, 9, 3.
That was the.
That was the gag.
He got it.
He's passed, that's right.
Thank you If you'd like to comeand play.
We're talking all things to dowith the healthy shift.
Veteran law enforcement officer, almost four decades getting
away with it, roger SutherlandCoaches shift workers to thrive,

(01:53):
not just survive, while workingin the shift work.
Roger gives out workers moreenergy and we all need a little
more energy outside their workshift and large.
You can have a look at theirhealthy shift comm Numerous
sources and links and help aswell.
So it's all there and a healthy.
Let me get the Instagram right,because people want to have a
look at this.
A underscore healthy,underscore shift.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, that's right, it's me, it's at.
I underscore healthy,underscore shift and I've got
plenty of help there for ourshift working community.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
So if you, would like to be part of the program ring
through and we'd love to.
We love it when people callthrough and tell us about their
shift work journey, whether itbe as of the last 12 months,
whether it be many, many yearsago, and we know from callers in
the past.
We know how many have actuallyworked shift work for long time
and one lady who ran and didthat nursing is a shift worker.

(02:48):
I think it was 37 years 37 closeon 40 years yes, was amazing as
a nurse and disregards the rest.
Thank you, brian, in Brunswick.
And disregards the rest.
Correct line in that great song, the boxer.
Thank you for reminding us thatcome enjoy the program.
Anything you want to raise, aone, double, three, six, nine,

(03:10):
three.
Now, roger, you've been not ahundred percent.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
No, I haven't.
I went Swimming with thegranddaughter last week.
Oh, you love that ocean or pool.
No, in the pool, the Waverlypool, yeah, and that was a bit
of a problem, but I went.
I went to I Try and get outthere and see her on Fridays
when she's around and my caughtup with my son and my
granddaughter, and we went tothe pool to keep each other

(03:34):
entertained.
It's always good for papa andgranddaughter to be Splashing
around.
We've both been sick ever since, both of us not my son, my son
was there as well, but mygranddaughter and I.
She's on the antibiotics withan infection and I was so sick
for about three Days like reallyquite ill and do we know why I
mean I have any times over theyears, particularly as young as

(03:56):
we're, into the Harold HallMemorial before the mulled and
baths back in the day.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
I don't recall getting cook once and spent a
lot of time in those pools, yeahwell, it's kind of funny
because I swim three days a week.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
I do Monday, wednesday and Friday mornings
out at my local pool, which isthe killer East leisure center,
and the pool is Absolutelymagnificent out there.
It was rebuilt, refurbished induring COVID and I've never had
an issue, never had any problemat all.
But I'm not gonna, I'm notblaming the way, no, obviously
it's just.
It's just.
I just obviously was vulnerable, picked up the bug, and this is

(04:30):
what happens with as shiftworkers as well.
Of course Our systems arereally, really compromised, we
don't get the correct nutritionin and of course it allows the
bugs to come in through that gut, microbiota and bang.
All of a sudden we've got itbad.
And of course, paul, little Luna, my granddaughter, who's three
and a half, something fierce Isshe literally to swim, obviously

(04:52):
?
Oh well, papa's teaching her toswim because Papa can swim so
well.
We put her head underwater forthe first time on Friday.
How did that go?
Fantastic, she just did itherself.
Yeah, put her goggles on.
Her father hasn't been able toget her to do it for ages.
But then granddad steps in, ofcourse, and she puts her head
straight in the water and comesup, then, of course, takes the
goggles off and pops the eyes.

(05:13):
Do you remember getting yourHerald?
I do, and Herald junior andsenior.
Yeah, yeah, a red, yellow andblue.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
So where did you get the?

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Herald Believe it or not at the Waveley Pool Wow.
Yeah, so it's come back to hornI actually took.
I took a photo and I actuallysent it to.
We've got a mutual friend who Isent it to, who I grew up in in
the Waveley Pool, as I right upuntil I was about 10 or 11 and
I had to get my Herald to beable to swim in the big pool.

(05:46):
And I think that was right.
Yeah, the Waveley Pool.
You had to have your Herald toswim in the in the big pool and,
yeah, I took a photo of it.
Yeah, that I hasn't changed onetiny little bit.
I hope they've changed thewater.
Did you do bronze?
Yes, yeah, bronze medallion,bronze medallion.
Yeah, it was the bronzemedallion as well.
And what was after that?
Anything?
Was it a star, something star?

Speaker 1 (06:06):
maybe for me it was girls.
Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Well, yeah, it was girls.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
So after that you lose a bit of interest.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Well, I was.
I suffered severely frombronchitis so my parents used to
take me swimming To actuallyregulate my breathing.
And I was swimming every singlemorning before school.
To you know, get thatregulation in the breathing and
it helped me absolutelyenormously with Bronchitis.

(06:33):
So I became an exceptionallygood swimmer.
In fact I think I wouldprobably still hold records down
in South Gippsland from Schoolsports.
I just dominated everythingdown there for many, many years.
Always freestyle, yeah, alwaysyeah.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Never the butterfly.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
I did freestyle breaststroke and backstroke, no
problems at all.
But oh that that, that goddamnbutterfly.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Oh yeah, it's a no.
It's an amazing thing to beable to do to see athletes doing
that and doing it.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Well, is is incredible, yeah, really
incredible.
We have a question just to kickit off.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
And here's the question for the listener to
jump in, and we'll tell you why.
When you come back with youranswer, the question is when you
kick it off, what's thequestion that we want to ask you
?
Well, I want to ask you.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Well, I want to ask people, as a shift worker, what
is the appliance that you cannotdo without in your kitchen?
What's the most importantappliance to have in a shift
working kitchen?
Now, you and I've bounced a few, and you mentioned one that I
hadn't even thought of myself,but it is an essential piece.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
it is so we're asking you, the listener, as a shift.
We're didn't necessarily haveto be a shift.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
No anyone.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Oh yeah, what is the most must have kitchen appliance
?
What is your must have kitchenAppliance?
One, double, three, six, nine,three.
Rogers here, rogers, sutherland.
We're talking a healthy shiftif you'd like to be part of it.
There's the question up forGretchen.
I'll tell you why shortly.
What is your must have Kitchenappliance?

(07:59):
It's Australia overnight.
Good morning, all right, we'llget to some calls in just a
moment.
You'll get through straightaway.
The question that's up for grabsis if you could nominate what
is just one must have.
What is your must have kitchenappliance as Well?
We, obviously we're talkingabout shift workers, but I think
it's anybody, anybody, reallyanybody up.

(08:21):
If you could name one Kitchenappliance.
All of a sudden, you have noappliances, but you just need
the one.
What would that be?
One, double, three, six, nine,three, and you'll get through.
We want to have a yak to you onthe program, because we're
going to talk about mealprepping.
This is to do with things likewhether we go fresh, whether we
go frozen, canned.
As a shift worker times limitedyou got family pressures,

(08:43):
presumably.
What have you come up with?
What are the recommendations?

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, well, I think one of the things about meal
prepping that a lot of peopledemonize canned food or they
demonize frozen.
And what's the question?
What's better?
What's better?
Is it frozen, is it fresh, isit?
And we always head for thefresh because we think that's
best.
But you know, can fresh is best, surely?

(09:08):
Well, no, it's actually not.
When I say it's not, it's Equalwith frozen.
You're gonna think frozen topicked and snapped.
Frozen while the goodness isstill in it and canned is
exactly the same sounds like aan ad for birds eye.
Well, it does.
But the thing is, what actuallyhappens is food deteriorates.
And but was it snap?

(09:29):
Frozen?
We don't have that problem withit at all.
So I always find that the bestthing to do is to have our
essentials.
You know, frozen veggies, steamfresh veggies, frozen veggies,
canned vegetables, chickpeas youknow all of those sort of thing
that we can have in our pantryand available cans of tuna that
we can just mix and put togetherwith things all the way through

(09:50):
to make it easy on ourselves.
And I think we demonize, or wetend to not shop in the middle
aisles Because we're told stayaway from the middle.
You know, you need to be in thefresh area.
But you can really do yourselfa disservice by not having some
of those things Available to youin your pantry ready to go
today.

(10:10):
I, we made a bologna sauce Overthe weekend, made a bologna
sauce and we have it in a pot inthe in the fridge.
And what I do with with beef?
Yeah, beef on yep.
So what I did was I air fried asame sweet potato tonight, half
an hour just took.
Just put it in the air fry, letit go for 30 minutes, cut it in
half, put a bit of the bolognasauce in it, put some cheese in

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it, put some Greek yogurt andsome jalapenos.
Yeah, that's a meal done simple.
It took me absolutely no timeto do at all.
Or do we get an Uber like real,you know Uber?
Eats it's so much easier to justput something together like
that.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, well, I'm falling in love with broccoli.
Have you tried air friedbroccoli?
Well, well, I want to talk toyou about that air fried
broccoli.
Let's take a couple of thesecalls now before we do that,
though.
Very clever text, yes, fromTrevor who says Tony Macam Roger
, triple zero.
Fine, why do we have point?
Oh?

Speaker 2 (11:07):
That's an excellent point.
Instead of point zero five,point zero five it is.
It's a really really good point.
I hadn't even thought of that.
Well done, trevor.
That's absolutely on the money.
Why do we have point oh five?
Trevor says go on work that out.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
It's really dead right.
Yes, but on Thanks trip one,double three, six, nine, three.
Don't leave us here byourselves.
Maggie Lavitton morning.
Good morning, tony, and.
Roger.
Roger um, I can't live withoutmy coffee maker.
Now, do you have a?
Which sort?

(11:42):
Do you have a one that you youput the pods in?
Is it a pod type coffee maker?
Well, how do you do it?

Speaker 9 (11:47):
It's just a Glass, a glass um, uh, thingy pour, and
it just heats it up.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Oh, sounds gorgeous, and how often would you have it?
Did you have a day, maggie?

Speaker 10 (12:00):
Oh, a couple, but in the afternoon I like to have a
bourbon.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Well, excellent, don't we all?
Thank you, that's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Well done, Maggie.
We didn't expect that one, didwe?

Speaker 1 (12:14):
No From coffee to bourbon we've got.
We're going to use that in thepromo.
I like a coffee, a couple ofcoffees in the morning.

Speaker 5 (12:21):
In the afternoon a bourbon.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
I think she's going to say like a tea no oh no, no,
I like that for bourbon.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Couple of tea to biscuit.
No, it's a bourbon, maggie.
We love you for that.
That's fantastic.
Yeah, ronnie Elfington.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Morning Ronnie you know, got an all-night maker.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Oh, an all-night maker, how do?

Speaker 3 (12:37):
you use that, yeah, yeah, it's great.
It's one of these things thatyou can buy and it makes it very
easy.
You've got a couple of eggs andsome cheese and you sort of
flip it over and it works.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
It's great.
So what do you have to do?
Do you have to mix the eggsfirst and then put them into the
omelette maker, or does it doeverything?

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah, no, you mix up the eggs it's easy enough to do
in a bowl, and then some cheeseand whatever you want to put in,
and now it's in one half of theegg and then you flip it over
and you get a beautiful omelette.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
There you go.
Eggs are a great way to startthe day.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Well done you, ronnie .
Eggs, scramble eggs.
I often have scrambled eggswhen I get home.
By slipping a couple ofbeautiful eggs, a little bit of
parmesan, excellent, justscrambled eggs.
Try to move away from the breada little bit Instead of having
two, just having the one slice,yeah, one piece of sourdough,
sourdough, beautiful Cappatea,and then hopefully a nap for a

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few hours at the front end.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
A little bit of avocado with that too.
A bit of healthy fats Reallyimportant.
Yeah, not a?

Speaker 1 (13:57):
fan.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
People keep telling me, avocados are not a fan, so
good.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
I may be the only person in Australia.
Mix it with a bit of cottagecheese and you won't know
yourself.
How are you talking?
Shawnee Morning?
Morning.
How are you tonight?
We're well, thank you.
What about you, shawnee?

Speaker 7 (14:11):
Yeah, I'm good, thanks, yeah.
What I can't get rid of is myrebel toasted sandwich maker.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, gold, yeah, you've got to love that, because
you can literally put anythingin between two pieces of bread
and a way it goes.
Yeah, that's right, and you caneat it on the run too, can't
you?

Speaker 7 (14:27):
Yeah, you can just make something a night before
and take it with you, or you cantake it to work, or you can eat
it At home.
Whatever it's quick and easyand you can throw whatever you
like in it.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Fantastic, what a great suggestion that was.
Sounds beautiful.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Shawnee.
I ended up in Greville Streetjust around about lunchtime
yesterday.
Greville Street in Melbourne,for those listening in Adelaide,
if you haven't been to GrevilleStreet, you should down.
Just fantastic.
Yep, so beautiful bread, roll,fresh roll, ham cheese, simple
as, and I thought I'll have thatlater tonight.

(15:05):
Well, I started to have a pickof it.
You know, when you're like alittle kid, you have a little
pick.
On the way home you say andthen you have a bit more, then a
bit more, and before you knowit, the whole thing's gone.
It was fantastic.
That's what you were.
It was one of those greatpleasant surprises.
Thank you for all these textscoming through, chris says.
Friday night I usually have aDr O-E-R-K-T Iced-Thon-The-Pizza

(15:26):
frozen Okay, before the footy.
Again Saturday night beforefooty I have a McCain lasagna
heated up in the microwave.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
A McCain lasagna.
Oh, mccain, okay, you've doneit again.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Milk shake maker with double milk chocolate.
Bruno, Double malt chocolate.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Double malt chocolate .
Oh, double milk.
The milk shake maker.
No one's hit on the main onesthat I'm a very big fan of but,
they've got some greatsuggestions.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
I've got from Mum and Dad's Milk Bar I think I've
mentioned this before on air Mumand Dad's original GE milkshake
maker from 1959.
The stainless steel, one Bigsteel heavy as, and the original
container.
It was amazing they only stoleone from when they sold them.
I'm not too sure what.
They didn't bring out a lot.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, yeah, fantastic , it's a wonderful piece you
always used to go into the milkbar and you'd ask for one and
they'd pull that big containerout and scoop it up.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Beautiful, and then scoop of ice cream in there.
Fantastic.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Do you want malt with that?
Do you want malt with?

Speaker 1 (16:25):
that.
Yes, please, thank you.
Yes, please.
One, double, three, six, nine,three More of your calls.
The other side, roger's.
Here I'm Tony McMannison,australia, overnight, our dear
friend program writer.
The Phantom says my kitchen ismy gym, my kitchen is my gym, my
sandwich presses, chocolatecurls and heavy April squat
turnovers.

(16:46):
Clever Phantom, very good,thank you.
Big question here who says notappliance related but if you're
going to have an hour and nap,you better have 25 minutes, wake
yourself up and then haveanother 25 minutes to break the
cycle.
Must have what would beoriginal George Foreman grill,
the original George Foremangrill.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, really interesting the about that nap.
Now I was reading some researchthat's just been released in
the last four days actuallyaround naps, and they're talking
about having a 90 minute napand then a 30 minute nap.
So this is splitting them up asagainst having a 30 minute nap
and then a 90 minute nap.
Now, I know our nurses and ournight shifters, our police, fire

(17:28):
and ambulance or not the fireis the water fairies will be
that they go and we get to sleepanyway, but the rest of us
don't.
And I think the thing is it'ssaying that if you are having a
90 minute nap and then a breaklater on and then you have a 30
minute nap, it actually improvesyour cognitive ability right,

(17:48):
improves a cognitive Whereas ifyou have a 30 minute nap and
then a 90 minute nap, itactually improves your fatigue.
Now, where's the happy meetingbetween that?
One thing that we do need to doand this is on this text that
we've got here is reallyimportant we mustn't go over
that 30 minutes when we nap,because when we do, we go into a

(18:09):
deep sleep.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
So what do you do?
Send an alarm?

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, really, you really should.
Yeah, you really should.
Or have yourself a caffeine hit, as we've spoken about the
caffeine power nap, have acaffeine hit, go to sleep and
get yourself back up again in 30minutes.
You've got to be ready forsleep, obviously it's not.
Oh, I feel a little bit tired.
Will I sleep?
Won't I sleep?
It's got to be.
I'm on a break.
I'm really exhausted.

(18:31):
I need to sleep.
Have that caffeine hit, lie down, set your alarm for at least 25
minutes.
When the alarm goes off, get upand get that light right
straight away.
You want to be getting up andgetting moving, not dozing again
.
Because a lot of people say Ican't nap, I can't nap, and the
reason why I can't nap isbecause I wake up feeling worse.
It's because you've gone overthat 30 minutes or 90.

(18:54):
Now, tonight, before I came inhere today, I actually had a
three hour sleep, three hours.
So I was in bed by 6 30, aboutseven o'clock I was out, set the
alarm for 10 o'clock and got up.
Now that's two ultradian rhythmcycles, so that's two 90 minute
cycles.
I wake up really well, like.
I woke up well, had a coffeeand I've come in to do the show

(19:18):
here tonight and I feel reallygood.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
So when you, when you drop back later, sort of.
You know, by the time you leavehere it's going to be after one
o'clock, by about two, and thengo pretty much well.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
I'll be back in bed by two, I'll go straight back
out again and I'll be up byabout six.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Well done you, stewie .
Adelaide Morning to you.
Hello, stewie, stewie'sdisappeared.
What about Maddie in NorthMelbourne?
Hello Maddie, thank you forjoining us.

Speaker 12 (19:40):
Oh, good on you, tony, thanks for taking my call.
You're welcome.
The whole shift workconversation is fascinating.
I've been missing around in thecapital since the early 80s and
you know I was a damn sort ofyounger then and so I've done it
.
I loved night shift.
You know, a few hours ago I waslooking to do something to do
on the day, but now I'm, youknow, getting on a little bit

(20:03):
and knocking on late 50s doors,sort of thing.
But I got young kids.
This morning I found myselfdoing the school drop but I
snuck in that 30 minute snoozeon the couch before it got
tapped on the shoulder and toldit was time to do the school run
.
But I and I, I, I next thing Iwas wired up and ready to go
again, sort of thing.
So it's, you know, I don'tthink I've ever found a happy

(20:25):
medium.
People ask how do you do it,sort of thing, and I just said
it and look, I find that it's a.
It's similar to being jetlagged and it's.
It's always a bit of a blur inthe back of your, your back of
your head when you're jugglingnight shift versus trying to get
some sleep during the day.
So yeah, I don't know, I don'tknow.

(20:46):
You search for a healthy sortof happy medium, trying to get
enough sleep, bit of exercise,this at the other bit.
But it's, it's, it'schallenging and it's tiring.
Yeah, that's the.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
That's the interesting point though in it,
maddie, where it actuallybecomes tiring almost by way of
trying to manage it somehow.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
It's about managing it the bestpossible way that you can.
I think what you've done andcredit to you as well, maddie is
when you went home after yournight shift and you had that 30
minute kip on the couch that mayvery well have just saved your
kids taking them to school onthe school drop off.
You don't realize those micronaps that you have if you had a

(21:33):
state of wake.
But by going to have thatlittle nap, that 30 minute nap,
what you've actually done is youhave released the sleep
pressure, release that sleeppressure and it's just got you
back and, as you said, you werewide and you were more alert to
take the kids to school.
But a lot of mums come home fromworking night shift, stay awake
, organize, getting the kidsorganized, put them in the car

(21:55):
and then drive them with thisenormous sleep pressure that the
body is doing everything it canto try and get you to sleep.
But ideally you should comehome, sleep straight away and,
once you've slept, get up andthen do your exercise or
whatever, and we must prioritizetheir sleep at the end of the
night shift.
How many years did you?

Speaker 1 (22:15):
say you've been going , Maddie.

Speaker 12 (22:17):
I started 83.
So I sort of worked the 24 hourroadtage never since.
The only shift I found I neverreally enjoyed was the PM shift,
the afternoon into the evening,because I was always running
late for work.
It was the only shift I found.
I was always running late forwork because I'd take on too
much in the morning and I'd beinevitably running late.

(22:41):
But some people loved it.
I always preferred the earlyshift or the night shift and
obviously on night shift and Isort of went until six in the
morning.
But could I just throw somethingdifferent at you?
When you were talking about thepilinters in the kitchen, the
rodeos my favorite, but I've gota little cheat snack maker.
When you were talking aboutfood as well, I quickly throw a

(23:03):
toasted sandwich together with adifferent strategy.
I put the sandwich together anddrop it in the sandwich toaster
.
Oh, there you go.
And what it does is it cooksboth the outside but doesn't
cook the inside.
A lot of people make a mistakeof throwing a couple of slices
of toast in and then make it asandwich and it's no good in the
middle.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Now I want to talk about that because when I grill,
I only grill one side of thebread as well, so doing exactly
the same as what you've donethere.
So when I make my sandwich up,I'll grill and only grill the
top One side.
Yeah, only grill one side.

Speaker 12 (23:37):
You can only grill one side.
It's a cardinal sin.
Due weren't to cook the inside.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Here here.
Well done, maddie.
I'm with you on that.
I'm absolutely.
It's nice and soft in themiddle.
It's still toasted on theoutside with a bit of butter,
but it's soft on the middle.
Well done, maddie.
I just wanted to quickly goback on something there, if I
can, that when you were talkingabout that, you preferred the
day shift and the night shift.
That is really rare andnormally it's a person that

(24:03):
appreciates and enjoys theafternoon shift and the night
shift and they're the night owlchronotype.
But to be an early bird andenjoy the day shift as well as
enjoying the night shift is areally, really unique situation.

Speaker 12 (24:17):
Yeah, I guess I just I don't really rely on a hell
of a lot of sleep.
I mean, I like to be up and atit.
So if I get four to five hourswhen I get home this morning,
I'll be pretty happy with thatsort of thing.
I might be still tired, but Iused to always aim to get an
hour in before I'd come to work.
But with the kids that doesn'tnecessarily work out, so you

(24:41):
just push through that's right,that's what I find.
But you're always conscious ofmaking sure that you're not too
tired, drive and aim sort ofthing.
But I've got a little trick ofthe trade on the way home there
that I might call intooccasionally that happens to be
over 24 hours and grab arefresher there to like begin,
oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Night shift worse, nudge, nudge, wink, wink.
Say no more yeah.

Speaker 12 (25:05):
I did love the old girl that called in and
mentioned her bourbon Bless her.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
How good was that.
I have a couple of coffees, andthen in the afternoon I have a
bourbon.
That's good.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Fantastic.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Hey, maddie, keep in touch, thank you.

Speaker 12 (25:18):
Keep on your time.
You love your work.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Thank you, marks and Franks.
Good morning Maki.
Good evening Gens.
How are you?
We're well, thank you.
Say hello to Roger.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
Well, first of all, we'll talk about broccoli and
avocado in a minute.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yes, please.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Best appliance in the kitchen is the egg boiler.
Oh that, living.
Six eggs at a time?
Yeah, it's a bit of water in it, but as many eggs as you want.
Split it on six minutes later,all done.
You can have them hard, soft orwhatever you want.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah fantastic and nothing.
But people underestimate thehard boiled egg as a protein
snack to have during the day aswell.
They're really reallyexceptionally good, particularly
for people who were on nightshift, to just have something
that's quite easy but a goodprotein and fat source to just
have a high protein, the egg.

(26:10):
It will just fill you up.
So if you can have an eggovernight as long as you're not
sort of stuck in a truck withsomebody else at the same time,
I guess but with the hard boiledeggs they can Not the one you
love, necessarily Not the oneyou love, no, but that's good,
but always good to keep.
I like it.
And eggs, of course, the eggsare really good for us.

(26:31):
Full stock, yeah, cool.
And now avocado.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
Yeah Well, first of all, avocado is poisonous to
most birds and we eat it.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Avocado is fantastic for us.
It's proven to be deadlypoisonous.
It would kill any birdimmediately.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Really.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
I'm not aware of that , absolutely.
Yeah, I'm actually not aware ofthat personally, but I know
it's, I know the research isvery, very good for us.
It's a very, very healthy fatfor us to have as humans.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
So clearly you're not a fan of the avocado either,
Mark.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
No, I'm broccoli.
Yeah, broccoli is either parrotfood or devil food.
How are we going?

Speaker 2 (27:08):
to look.
Oh, no, no.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
But devil's food, steve.
Broccoli with some pepper andsalt and a bit of butter.
Bit of butter on it, fantastic.
Or a bit of Greek yogurt.
Well done, mark.
When we come back, you'reworking on an app or we need to
know more about it.
We will do that next.
Roger's here, roger Somerfieldtalking about some fantastic
things to do with the world ofshift work.
We want to hear from you aswell.
One, double, three, six, ninethree.

(27:31):
Program writer says my favoritekettle finally died.
Would you please play sympathyfor the Breville?
Very funny.
Thank you very much, phantom.
What do we got?
We'll take some more calls injust a moment to Dave and Stu,
if you stay there.
This app, which I know you'vebeen approached to, where sort

(27:52):
of look at very closely beingdeveloped as we speak, designed
for shift workers, yeah it's aresearch is a really exciting
place for shift workers at themoment because we've spoken
before that it's actually verynew.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
But what we have done is the researchers.
Now I've been working with DrOlivia Walsh at the University
of Minnesota and what we'redoing is we've got live shift
shift workers.
I've said it the wrong way.
We've got live shift workerswho are actually utilizing an
app at the moment which isavailable to everybody.
We developed it for iOS, forthat iPhone, and then we went

(28:27):
across to Android and what we'vegot now is we've got live shift
workers using it and the datathat it's feeding back.
It's actually increasing sleepin shift workers by over an hour
and that's what the data isshowing.
Now you might think, well,that's not a lot, but and any
shift worker would take anadditional hour if they could.
Now the app is called ARCA,shift, arca and then shift.

(28:52):
It's been developed by ARCAscope in the USA and Dr Olivia
Walsh is very passionate aboutthis project and I've been
helping her an awful lot in thebackground, providing shift
workers and also giving herinsights from a shift work
perspective.
Now the app actually has ascreen that you can look at and

(29:12):
it tells you, like for yourroutine when you should sleep,
when you should get light, whenyou should get dark, when you
should end caffeine for sleep,when you should be sleeping,
when you should be avoidinglight.
Now this app is using thecurrent science all the time.
That's being inputted into thealgorithm of it and it syncs

(29:32):
with your apple health or itsyncs with your Google health
and also with like things likethe aura ring or any devices
that you've got that are feedinginto each other, and it pulls
out the algorithm of that and,on the fly, it will auto adjust
what you should be doing as faras light, dark, sleep eating

(29:53):
cycles.
It's fantastic.
Now, just to help people, weactually have a one month free
trial of premium running at themoment for people.
If people would like to grabthe ARCA shift app, now it's got
a purple icon.
It's in the Apple app store aswell as the Google Play Store,

(30:15):
and you can download the app.
And if you start an account andthen contact ARCA shift, arca
scope, they will actually putyou on a one month free premium
trial and all they ask for inreturn is feedback on how you
found it, whether you found it'sbeneficial, whether it's fiddly
, whether it works for you ornot.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
They're looking for the feedback, so it's A R C A.
Arca shift S.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
H I F T.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
I nearly did that too .
Yeah, arca shift, yep.
Doing a search and it comes upa little bit, a little.
That's the one, that's the one.
There you go.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
So if you install that app and then create an
account, and there's a way youcan contact them through the app
and they will put you onpremium for a month in return
for feedback.
Now I think this is an idealapp for our shift workers to be
running with to learn how tooptimize it.
Now we had Maddie before thatwas saying that he really

(31:13):
struggles with his.
You know how do you find a way?
Yeah, this will literally helpyou to find a way that suits
your body.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
There goes that there is a, there is an app for
everything.
There is there, absolutely is.
How can you sleep withinteresting programs on 3AW?
Great question.
We will no longer haveinteresting programs connect to
do with my blender, like, oh,sorry, not connect, cannot,
cannot do without my blender.
Well, done you.
Ending in 4, 4, 2, let's take acouple of these, dave, on the

(31:41):
road.
Thank you for waiting, dave.
Good morning.

Speaker 13 (31:44):
Good day guys.
I'll make you for saying thatthe car is a poisonous to birds.
I don't know where he's gettingthat from.
We've been given our chooksavocados that have gone rotten
in the bowl for eight, nineyears, never lost a bird.
They're happy still laying thewhole lot, so I don't know
what's going on there.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
That's one way to get avocado with you, isn't it?
That's it.
Mate absolutely On the toastedsandwiches.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (32:11):
I've got an ultimate hack for you.
Put it in the air fryer.
It doesn't squish down, it juststays intact, and it is
absolutely divine.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Does it toast top and bottom?

Speaker 13 (32:23):
Absolutely, and the inside is just heated through
perfectly and it's the besttoast you'll ever have.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Alright, I love this.
Now, tony, I'm going to give itup here.
Air fryer is my favoriteappliance at the moment.
I've only had an air fry for 12months, but I could not live
without my air fryer.
Now I absolutely love it that,and I've got one other which you
will share with us shortly.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Okay, keep in touch, dave.
Always good to talk to you now.
Stewie, we think we found youin Adelaide, good morning.

Speaker 11 (32:53):
Yeah, good morning.
I'm actually up around the backof Dubbo at the moment.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Oh, what are you driving, or something?

Speaker 11 (33:00):
Yeah, I'm an NSA truck driver.
I have a lot of just comingback from Brisbane.
What are you hauling At themoment?
I have a load of the finestplasterboard.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Plasterboard Well.

Speaker 11 (33:13):
I say the finest because it's a customer's your
favorite customer.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah, good to know.
No, don't plasterboard.
Now what's happening, stewie?

Speaker 11 (33:24):
Just on the best appliance for a chip work as
well as an interstate.
Sometimes there's 100 to 300case between towns and stuff.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yep.

Speaker 11 (33:34):
And the last thing you want to do is I normally do
14 hours of work over 17 hours.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Yes.

Speaker 11 (33:42):
Depending on, you know, being mucked around by
places and in doing that I findthe worst thing is having to
stop at a service station to geta feed or a roadhouse to get a
feed, two hours or an hour shortfrom week after.
So I've actually got a little12 volt oven in my truck and
I'll take mills from home.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
I was just about to say how good they are.

Speaker 11 (34:03):
Frozen mills from home are brilliant, yep.
And then an hour and a half toan hour and three quarters
depending on.
Sorry about that, that was awork diary Hour and a half to an
hour and three quarters beforeI pull up, I'll pop it in and I
can have slow cooked mills thatwe've run from home and steak
and yeah, just live like a kingon the road they are absolutely.

Speaker 2 (34:26):
I reached out to a company in the USA about these
that they plug into the 12 voltand I thought they would be
ideal for anybody.
They're like a cooler bag butyou plug them in and they heat
up slowly and they'll heat ameal and keep a meal hot for you
.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Is that what you're talking about, then, stewie?

Speaker 11 (34:45):
Yeah, it's similar.
Mine's actually a hard plasticcover and it folds open in half
and it's got a clip on it thatlocks it and secures it and it
plugs in.
It plugs in, it's got a fuseand it's in one fuse and plugs
into the 12 volt light up, yep,and it's metal on the inside and
basically it locks down andit's very firm and it pretty
much will fit most Chinese trays, like the takeaway metal ones,

(35:10):
aluminium ones, yep, and the vegis perfect, like at the moment.
I've got mine on and I've justpulled up from the right now and
I'm just about to have steakwith red wine gravy and veggie
bacon.
How?

Speaker 2 (35:21):
are you travelling?
I'm having a hard time out hereon the road what?

Speaker 1 (35:25):
do you like.

Speaker 11 (35:26):
First thing for travelling, in case you end up
like sometimes, or particularlya lot of the time, if there's a
bad car accident or a vehicleaccident and the highways no.
Truck drivers don't get to goaround it.
We have to sit and wait for theroad to open again, and that
really can save you some time aswell.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
So long as you've got a decent napkin.

Speaker 11 (35:44):
Yeah, pretty much.
Well, and on the sleet side ofthings, I'll sleep for half an
hour if I'm going to have a nap,and it's got to be good if you
have half an hour only, or fiveand a half to six to it and a
half.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Well done, stewie.
Thank you, keep in touch.
There you go.
Sounds quite smart in the cabinthere.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Such a good idea A chillar bag or an electric oven
for people on the road Ideal.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
More the other side, roger Sutherland.
I think I said something elsebefore.
Roger Sutherland, all things todo with shiftwork, are you
happy to be a happy littlecamper and we'll go the other
side of the news coming up foranother half hour, so you're not
racing often for a snooze.
Let's do that.
How do you do that?
Roger will stay with us.
If you have a thought, question, and we'll take plenty of calls

(36:30):
as well.
Then the question that we putout there just to get a sense,
and we'll tell you why shortly.
What would you say is your musthave kitchen appliance,
particularly a fresh shiftworker not necessary, but for
anybody.
What is your must have kitchenappliance and why?
One double three, six, nine,three.
We're getting a stack of textwhich is great One double three.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
One, double, three, six, nine, three.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
That's the phone number.
What's the text line number?
Zero four, double seven, sixnine three, six nine three.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
I've got your back, tony, thank you.
Well done you.
We're on night shift.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
If you would like to come and play, feel free.
Share, share like a bear.
What's your shiftworkexperience?
So, and it is Australiaovernight.
Good morning Now.
This is Australia, overnight,with Tony McManus.
Lovely to have you there.

(37:27):
Australia overnight One, double, three, six, nine three.
We'll get to many calls in justa moment, rodney, you will be
next, gabriel Hodson from ourAustralia overnight, three a w
newsroom.
Good morning to you.
Good morning, shift works arenot something new to you.
You know, roger, of course,don't you.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Yes, yes, yes, we have now.

Speaker 5 (37:46):
Thank you, so I've known him for all of five
minutes.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
I'm trying to get everybody inside this great
organization to actually speakto each other.

Speaker 11 (37:54):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
I think it would be helpful going forward.
What you're not new to shiftwork per se, are you?

Speaker 5 (38:01):
No, I'm many, many, many years.
Yeah, in fact, I think goingback to high school, I used to
get up at four in the morningand do assignments.
You get to a point where oh, asa student, of course, yeah.
Yeah, I'm too tired to do this.
I'll just get up at four andfinish.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Yeah, Well, see, that's a good point.
I did that as well.
Early likes that.
For me it was putting it off,putting it off until the last
moment quite often.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
I was always one that would stay up and just struggle
all night, whereas I probablywould have been better off going
to bed and getting up and doingit first thing.
As fresh, with a fresh eyes.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
So gave as a young mum, then with kids, you know
with the little ones, and andthen doing both bigger than me
now.
Well, they are, but I mean,there's still some challenges.

Speaker 5 (38:45):
They're not yet adults, put it that way.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Yeah, so there's still some sort of.
You've still got to be therearound the place, don't you yeah
?

Speaker 5 (38:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
So how does that all manage in terms of having a
snooze, family cooking, eating,doing all those?

Speaker 5 (38:58):
things Home when they're getting ready for school
.
Mr Gabe takes care of things abit as well, mr Gabe, mr Gabe.
Mr Gabe.
So they I get home just beforethey get on the bus, usually
Occasionally, I've got to findwhatever they've lost or sign

(39:21):
something, or you know all thatsort of stuff.
Put your shoes on.
All I want to do is slew, yeah.
But yeah, they go to school andI sleep and I wake up about the
time they come home.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
So there is a bus involved.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
So yeah, that that helps.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
It does, because you don't have to drive them.
Imagine having to drive them toschool.
This is what I was saying.
So are your kids at age whereyou should be driving them or
could be driving them, or it'sjust easier for the bus?

Speaker 5 (39:50):
Um, look, they're eligible for the bus.
Put it that way yeah, yeah sofree bus, um, but yeah look, I
just think shift work anddriving's a fatal combination.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Oh, totally it is totally Well, that's a good
point, roger, we're probablysomething we haven't really
spoken at any great length.
No, given your background, Imean, is there research to say
that those that are tired,clearly and that's been pointed
out by various campaigns overthe years that exasperates the
possibility of oh absolutelyyeah, and and the lighting, the
lighting exposure and how we areis really bad.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Yeah, um, sorry, it gets quite bad with us staying
awake.
The longer we're awake, themore sleep pressure that we
actually have, and it builds andbuilds and builds until we get
to the stage where we their bodywill just micro-nappers.
And that's why it's sodangerous taking kids to school
and, as Gobus just said, it'sreally dangerous to be driving

(40:46):
home after night shift, even Insix hours.
Enough, okay.

Speaker 5 (40:50):
Yes, yes, I generally take a public transport train,
coach whatever's going at thetime, um, but avoid driving at
all costs.
I've only ever done it.
If I absolutely have to, noother choice.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
So six hour rest and then by the time the kids are
home at three, three thirty.
Then it's a pretty normalexistence, for until you decide
to leave around about ten thirty.

Speaker 5 (41:14):
Yeah, get up, have brekkie about four thirty pm,
yep.
And then I have people saying,oh, what do you want for dinner?
But I've just had brekkie, youknow.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Yeah, but our body doesn't know.
This is where people say to mecan you have breakfast at that
time?
Why can't everybody understand?
Why not?
Yeah, but our body doesn'tunderstand whether it's a
calorie, it's a protein, it's acarbohydrate, it's a fat.
If you have breakfast, cereal.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
Yeah, it's not saying you've got to give me meat and
three veg, no.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
It doesn't matter what you eat and when you eat it
.
Your body is just going toprocess it as calories, so it
makes no difference whatsoever.

Speaker 5 (41:48):
Yeah, well, look, I generally eat something on the
way home.
Uh, I guess that's what dinner.
Um, I get salads and things.
I eat rabbit food.
Yep, I'm not a vegetarian, butI might as well be.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
And I should say Roger, this is the great news
person who this time last nightbought in trays of beautiful hot
cross buns.
Good girl.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
We love that we love that.

Speaker 5 (42:16):
I don't know where they came from, I swear they
just appeared in the newsroomand I thought I'll give them
away so I don't have to eat them.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
We love newsroom food .
Newsroom food Very good.
What do you do as far as eatinggoes through the day?
How do you go that day at night?
Do you eat overnight or not?

Speaker 5 (42:32):
Yes, yeah, yeah, I am finding I'm grazing a lot.
You know if it's a tray ofstrawberries or, hmm, it's nuts
at the moment.
Yeah perfect Almonds and stuff.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Yeah, um, but you wouldn't have a main meal
between ten thirty and fivethirty when you're at work.

Speaker 5 (42:49):
Not really the salad sort of it.
Really yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
But grazing on fruits ideal strawberries and having a
handful of nuts, because thenuts are very energy dense.
Cashews, of course, of course,but they're very energy dense.
Um, you know they're, they're afat, so they are non calories
per gram, so it's really goodfor us to have something like
that, just to give us thatenergy to keep us going

(43:15):
overnight.
Really important, uh.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
Gabe, yes, uh, I'll come out and make you a
cappuccino during the next adbreak.
Oh, thank you yes.

Speaker 16 (43:24):
Yes.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
Uh, all caffeine is good caffeine.
Uh, I must add, I probably gothrough about a litre of coke,
diet Coke, diet Coke.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Each night.
Yeah, why?
Yeah, listen to this now.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Go and get the caffeine free.

Speaker 5 (43:38):
Why it doesn't work.
It it works for me, it's so bad.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Caffeine's bad Like it impacts on your sleep,
although you're starting tosleep alright and you've been in
a good routine and you've sleptalright.

Speaker 10 (43:49):
But I just wanted to do you wake up tired I've done
that for years.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
Do you wake up tired or do you wake up feeling like
you're well rested?

Speaker 5 (43:55):
I wake up fairly rested.
Sometimes I think, well, I'drather have another two hours,
oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Your female female's always need a bit more sleep
than males do.

Speaker 5 (44:05):
Anyway, research shows that.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Really yes.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Females need more sleep, so I'm not being touchy
touchy here, can I just add.

Speaker 5 (44:13):
Maybe we do more work .

Speaker 7 (44:14):
I read some time ago oh.
I read some time ago.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
No matter what time you, no matter what time you
you're supposed to get up.
You never really want to get up.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
No, that's right.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
And that's why we should never hit the snooze.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Never hit the snooze, diabolical, just get straight
up.
We should never, ever hit thesnooze.

Speaker 5 (44:32):
He's a hard task, master I hit the snooze because
when I'm half asleep it's theonly thing I can whack with my
hand.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
Yeah, yeah, subconscious.

Speaker 5 (44:41):
I'm not sure what I'm whacking, I'm just whacking
something.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Why is that thing vibrating and noise what's going
on?

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Gabe.
Thank you for that.
We'll talk soon.
Gabe's in our newsroom.
Gabe Hudson, from our 3AW.

Speaker 5 (44:52):
Australia Overnight Newsroom.
I think I'm in trouble.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
No, you're not.
You're fine when we come back.
14 past one, when we come back,more of your calls.
Come and join us.
I'm Tony McManus.
Roger Sutherland is here.
It's all about the healthyshift.
Rodney, good morning in Packnam.
Hello.
This is Tony Russell.
Hello mate.
It's Roger who's here with usthis morning.

(45:16):
Rodney go ahead.

Speaker 6 (45:17):
Sorry, that's all right With the food I used to.
I own a great place in GeorgeForeman.
I was at that in Michigan.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
The George Foreman Grill.
Yeah, the healthy grill.
Jesus was promoted, wasn't itoh?

Speaker 6 (45:34):
I was there.
I was there too.
I got the first one there.
I reckon it was the first onelast about 20 years.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Then what's your favorite dish Rodney?

Speaker 6 (45:48):
I like using things like that, but I cook them in
the stove cooker and I like touse them in the grillers.
I'm a cook and now I'm a switch.
Now I'm retired, I'm a switchto light meat.
I reckon that's really reallygood.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Well done.
So you have pre-prep meals andyou have them delivered.
Yep, yep.
Very good, that works reallywell for you.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Well done, rodney.
Thank you very much for that,chris Broadman.
Oh is Chris.
Oh, tell us about your.
What are you eating, chris?

Speaker 17 (46:24):
Well, I told you earlier about the restaurante
pizza, dr Urquhart.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
That's the one you mentioned.

Speaker 17 (46:29):
yeah, A lot of times .
I work in five kitchens, soevery good cook, even just a
domestic cook in a home kitchen,has got to have a whisk, and
I'm in a handout.
A whisk yes.
A bunch of cool stuff.
Now, I don't believe inartificial things.
What I do and I rotate aboutsix or seven different meals on

(46:50):
one meal a week.
None of this.
Three meals and going back tothe same meal because you can't
get bored with your food it'd bevery similar because you know
the cost of living.
You might have to buy bulkstuff and rotate it on different
nights, but I have to breakwhile I have to eat more
healthier now, and so I dosomething completely pear-shaped
.
I might say what should I say?

(47:13):
I might tonight have sausages,and what I do?
I peel a potato and I havefrozen mixed veggies, but I peel
potatoes.
I do have the usual mashed orstewed, boiled potatoes and dry
ones.
What?
I do I?
Peel potatoes, cut it intobite-sized portions, blanch it,
which means half-boiled or itmeans half-boiled.

(47:36):
And it's all time, and you do itwhen it's all hot and all ready
to go and turn it over, theremaining oil in your frying pan
, a bit like a sauteed action,and it comes out very similar to
a roast potato.
And I never put salt directlyonto the food, I put it in a
palm of hand to sprinkle itevenly and just to finish by
saying it gives you a bit ofzing with an alternative way of

(48:00):
doing things, rather than havingvery same things.
Because I am on a pentecostalpension and the cost does.
I've made a correction to whatI.
I spent $204 first, long-grace,we only paid $194 with the $10
on everyday reports, but then Ispent another $28 just a couple
of days ago.
And I rather have my food andsay look forward to the wrong

(48:21):
reason, have me tobacco and sitat home and watch even replays
of horse races thanthree-fucking a morning and
evening.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Chris I think we've got all the details there, the
whole rundown.
Thank you, for that.
Where do we go from here?
There is nothing better thanthose sauteed potatoes and a
little bit of duck fat.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Now, my mum is a classic for this.
She will parboil the potatoesand then she will shallow, fry
them Beautiful.
Oh, they're the best.
Roll them in flour and thenshallow fry them.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Now something tells me you were going to tell us a
story just before the news.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Well, I was.
I've got a great little story.
I was going to go back and talkabout that one when we had I
can't remember his name now, butI remember back in the early
days when I was out on thehighway and we had pulled over a
big B-double and we were goingto run it over the Waybridge.
And as we pull over the driverand have the check, Seed drivers
.
It was him, no, it wasn't me.

(49:16):
It wasn't me, I was learning, Iwas being taught.
Anyway, I went up to thisdriver.
I was told to go up to him andI went up to him and I said what
have you got on board, mate?
And he goes.
I've got manhole covers.
And I thought, oh yeah, fairenough, no problems, got manhole
covers on board and he's goingto be heavy, as took him to the
Waybridge, went on the Waybridgehardly weighed anything at all.
So what do you mean?

(49:37):
You've got manhole covers.
He goes and opens the back.
You know it was manhole covers,not the concrete manhole covers
that we're thinking of.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Oh right, thank you.
Thank you, sherry.
Thanks, too much information.
The question that we asked atthe front end of the program is
what's the one kitchen appliancefor shift workers?

Speaker 2 (49:57):
The audience have said a whole range of things you
said well, my favorite isdefinitely without any doubt
whatsoever At the moment is myair fryer, but it's always been
my slow cooker, because you canjust chuck anything in it and
just leave it in there.
What's yours?
The?

Speaker 1 (50:13):
slow cooker would be up there.
I reckon Back in the day we hada, what was it called like a
pressure cooker.
I guess in a sense the same wasa.
I think the brand was Namco andit had this seal.
So it was a big heavy iron,huge thing that one would use
almost daily.

Speaker 5 (50:32):
From memory, soups and things, there's a little
thing that sat on it and whenthat blew up, it was ready to go
.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
It was amazing.
Yeah, the pressure cooker.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
The pressure cooker piece suit was beautiful.
They made it come back thepressure cooker as well, because
they've incorporated thepressure cooking into, like the
air fries and slow cookers, andit's all in one appliance now,
which is absolutely fantasticfor people in the kitchen.
But yeah, and I'm about torelease two cookbooks through my
website that I've put togetheractually three for shift workers

(51:03):
, and one of them is going to bea slow cook cooking guide to
help them, and another one willbe an air fry cooking guide, and
then another one that I'mbuilding as well at the moment
is 12 recipes, but you canactually do swaps for vegans and
vegetarians as well, so they'llbe coming out in the next three
to four weeks.

Speaker 1 (51:22):
Now I've just downloaded that.
It's just fantastic.
The app, the arca shift, yeah.
So just spell it for people.
So I want to do it at home.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
It's arca shift and you can find it on your
A-R-C-A-S-H-I-F-T.
So arca shift.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
But one word, if you like.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
And so I put in there a radio presenter and it's got
all the details of eatingwindows, avoiding light sleep,
and you can register all that,in a sense, and it provides you
the feedback of where you're upto.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Yeah, what it does is it actually syncs in the
background with your AppleHealth or your Google Fit or
whatever it is that you've gotrunning, so it's detecting your
steps when you're actuallynormally moving and things like
that, and through the algorithm,it's telling you and giving you
recommendations around yourlight.
So this is how you optimizeshift work as a diurnal creature

(52:13):
, maggie says.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Sleeping, slumbering, napping can be so tight.
However, once truly awakened,there is no chance of getting
back to sleep.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
Well, once you've woken yourself up.
That's the idea, though, andthis is what we were saying
before to go about when you getup, get that light and get going
, because it suppresses allthose sleep hormones and gets
you up and going.
So the idea is not to go backto bed.
Yeah, that's what we give themG'day Tony MacI'm Roger.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Avocado is apparently quite talked to the small birds
like budgies and cockatiels.
My girlfriend lost hercockatiel about five years ago
after unloving and giving himavocado from her plate, gone
within hours.
Oh, I'm sorry to hear that.
However, except for the skinand pits, the flesh is fine.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
for chickens there's no such thing, unaware of that.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
Unaware.
We might talk to Nathan nexttime.
Next time Nathan is here on theprogram, we will talk to him
about that, as to whether or notthere are issues we didn't know
.
Avocado, small birds, do notmix.
We'll go to Tonya in just amoment.
In fact we'll do this, and whenwe come back, more of your
calls, don't leave us here.

(53:26):
1-336-93.
Shift workers we love you.
Come and join in.
You're working now.
What is your shift?
For how long have you been ashift worker?
What's your shift work story?
1-336-93.
And Roger, roger, southernRoger, roger, healthy Shift.
Have a look at the website athealthyshiftcom and lots of
resources there, links to helpas a shift worker.

(53:49):
Tonya, who never sleeps, roger?
No, never sleep, tonya, goodmorning.

Speaker 10 (53:56):
Good morning Roger, good morning Tony.
How are you both?

Speaker 2 (53:59):
We're well Well.
Thank you, tonya.

Speaker 10 (54:01):
Well, you should be, Roger.
You had a great hour nap.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
I did.
How good is that?
It's an eye.
I did well, Well that's a lot.

Speaker 10 (54:07):
That's a lot.
It's a big sleep.
You can do the two cycles, so Iguess it's okay.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
That's exactly right.
I was up at five o'clock thismorning.
I got up yesterday morning Fiveo'clock yesterday morning.
I pushed through all day sothat I can actually have that
good sleep.

Speaker 10 (54:26):
Okay, you know, I got home at about two and then I
was up again at six Yep, andthen I'm still going.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
My goodness me Is that okay.
No, no, no.

Speaker 10 (54:37):
I feel I feel kept up.
I could go run a marathon but Iwouldn't.
But I was calling to say,because I did hear that remark
before, that women need moresleep than men.
I don't know about that, myhusband needs to sleep a whole
lot.
He's more horizontal than whathe is vertical, I think.
He's tricking you I think he'stricking you I think he's

(54:57):
tricking you.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
No, of course there's exceptions to the rule, but I'm
talking about generally.
The research shows that femalesdo sleep more than males do.
Certainly, in my experience, mypartner needs a lot more sleep
than I do.
No doubt about it.
What about you, tony?

Speaker 10 (55:15):
I feel terrible if I have too much sleep.
I actually feel so nostalgic.
I just, I really find it hardto get going, but I guess every,
probably every two or threeweeks, I might have a big sleep,
but a big sleep for me.
I might have maybe seven hoursand then.
I get up and I go wow, I feellike I'm being hit by a truck.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
This is a really really interesting topic too.
Tonya, thanks for bringing thisup.
The recommendations for sleepare between seven and nine hours
, and that's what they tell usgenerally, but there are people,
such as yourself, that canliterally fly on four and a half
five hours sleep no problems atall.
And then there's other peoplethat need the good nine or 10.
But if you're needing I thinkwe had a caller one morning that

(55:53):
was 12, 12 or 13.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
My goodness, mate, like that's not good because
you're not getting goodrestorative sleep while you're
sleeping.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
How much sunlight are you getting Tonya?

Speaker 10 (56:02):
Oh well, all the sunlight, tonya, because I only
have a couple of hours sleep.
So I've up in the before thesun and I go to sleep after the
sun gone down, so I'm always inthe sun, outside, fresh air.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
You sound absolutely on fire.
You sound like you're reallyfiring.

Speaker 10 (56:19):
Well, yeah, I'm on fire all the time.
I'm a holler at anything.
You've got no idea.
Really, really.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
But what do you do at this time?
Should I ask no, what are youdoing?

Speaker 10 (56:27):
Okay, what am I doing at this time?
And I'm actually doing acleaning job at the moment.
Okay, and I, which is like somopping a couple of basketball
stadiums, big reception area,tennis center.
I'm doing that at night timewhen everyone's left here, so
it's the easiest time to do it.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
So it's your quiet time and you just listen to the
radio while you're doing it.

Speaker 10 (56:50):
And I listen to the radio.
And then I say, listening tothe radio, occasionally I might
fall asleep at the end of Tony'sshow, and then I'm up again to
the boys for Brecky so I canhear what's going on, and then
we'd solve.
And then we, tony, and then weyou know Jackie, in the
afternoon You've got it allcovered.
Got it all covered, all covered.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
I hope you're buying all the products that they're
advertising as well.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
That's important.
I have a question for me, tony,because we're going to talk
about hydration in just a moment.
Are you a big on the water, bigon the H2O?

Speaker 10 (57:18):
No, I'm big on the wine.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
No, not during the day, when you're working, surely
Over night.

Speaker 10 (57:24):
There we go.
It's safe home.
It's got to be as you know it'shappening somewhere.
It's going somewhere in theworld.
Honestly, I don't really carewhat time it is.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
But you're not slipping into a shardy about now
, are you?

Speaker 10 (57:34):
Oh well, no, I'll get one soon-ish.
No, I'm nearly finished.
So yeah, I'll have to do thenight time.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Thank you, tony.
You're good to talk to.
Thank you, Keep in touch.
It was good to hear your voice.
So hydration is very important.
I think we've mentioned thatbefore, but it's worthwhile
highlighting again.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Yeah, we really need to flag hydration really
important for shift workers.
I realise in our roles it'sreally really hard to get to the
bathroom, obviously, but themore we drink, the more we
condition our body to it.
So, as I said, I've been crooklast week and hydration has got
to be the key.
Our body works really hard toget rid of the toxins, so we've

(58:16):
got to flush them out.
That's one thing, but alsofatigue is a symptom of
dehydration as well.
So we need more water into oursystem to literally get all
those neurons firing andeverything running really well
through our body.
And the other thing as well isour immune system really needs
hydration all the time to berunning through it.

(58:37):
So I think females running withhydration higher hydration than
normal through their systemthey've already got a
biologically compromised system,so to running water through it
and fasting overnight is highlybeneficial for females in
particular.
So hydration, hydration,hydration.

(58:58):
Shift workers need morehydration than non-shift workers
do, and that's purely to keepthat digestive tract running
because it's out of sync, soit's not sure what it's supposed
to be doing.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Gerald Quigley, who's a regular contributor to this
program, as you know, andco-host of the House of Wellness
.
He's got with him all the time.
Water all the time, all thetime.
Whenever you see him in a cafe,in a restaurant or in a radio
studio Water all the time.
I've no idea how much he drinks, but I'm assuming it's several

(59:31):
liters a day.
Well, Jared.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
See, what we don't realize is the visual reminder
is what keeps us going as well.
So Jared's clever in what he'sdoing because by having that
water in front of him, it's ahabit to just continually grab
it and drink from it.
So if you've got the rightwater bottle and it's in front
of you, or you've got it withyou all the time, you will drink
it out of sight, out of mind,with anything.

(59:55):
But I think if we drink anawful lot of water and you know,
jared will know that we need alot of water through our system,
but we do need to replenishthose electrolytes at the same
time as well.
So pinch of salt into the water, or a Little bit of a bit of
sodium, bit of manganese, bit ofthe water Yep, into the water,
because we do flush them out.

(01:00:15):
The more water we drink, themore sodium we actually flush
out of our system.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
It's interesting, you say, because sometimes you go
to those beautiful restaurantsand tell you, in risks on the
lofty, the bottle of thePellegrini, whatever it's called
, and I was thinking it's a bitsalty.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
That's right it's.
It is because it's it's amineral type water that's got
those Essential minerals in it.
The more water we drink, themore electrolytes we need to
replenish into our system.
Fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Can we talk briefly before we let you go about
medications?
Those people are on medicationfor sleep.
Well, and and or for sleep.
I mean, is there a trick aroundthat?
Anything that we need to knowmore about that?

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
We're learning more and more in science at the
moment about timing ofmedications Biologically and
this is called chrono medicinereally important if you're
prescribed a medication, youreally should be asking your
doctor what's the best time tobe actually taking that mediate
medication.
You know, I know they say I'lltake it with a meal, but you

(01:01:14):
know, like blood pressuretablets could be taken at not
know don't hold me to thisbecause I'm not actually a
pharmacist or a doctor, right?

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
so but I think often it'll be in the packet so it's
taking a bedtime or whatever itmight be but your blood pressure
.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
You can be taking it at night so that it's more most
efficient for you in the morning, or there's some other
medications that you canactually take at different times
.
And in fact the research hasshown that the COVID vaccine was
more effective taken in themorning than it was taken in the
afternoon.
For those people that took theCOVID vaccine, if you were a
morning person, it was proven tobe more effective in the system

(01:01:50):
.
And that's science, it's, it'sa common knowledge now.
So those that queued up and hadit in the afternoon probably
wasn't as effective as in themorning.
But we didn't know that at thetime.
But there was a lot we didn'tknow.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
One, double, three, six, nine three.
Come and join us.
Anything you'd like to raise onthe program in terms of health
and wellness, can we have aquick word with Maggie?
We'll come back to Maggie very,very shortly.
Perhaps grazing is a good wayto go.
We are the animal kingdom.
I liken ourselves to examplebirds, owls, sparrows, for

(01:02:25):
example.
Some are nocturnal, othersearly rises.
Question mankind has, overMillenniums, shared his shift
work.
Did not cave men swap peoplewith duties?
More recent years, with astruggle for accommodation, have
not certain sectors adopted thehabit of sharing a bed Wanted
work, the other sleeping?

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Yeah, see, I don't don't agree with that, but
that's my opinion.
It's.
We are dying, all creatures.
And it's funny because thisWaking up in the middle of the
night that people experience,that they struggle with, is
actually a natural Phenomenonfor us to do.
Because in years gone by, whenI talk, years before the
invention of electric light,people used to go to bed as it

(01:03:09):
got dark.
Yeah, and then what they woulddo is they'd wake up in the
middle of the night and theywould literally become
productive in the middle Of thenight.
Then they would go back tosleep.
But we, with the introductionof electric light, have pushed
that sleep cycle way back Togoing to bed at 10 o'clock, 11
o'clock, sleeping overnight andthen waking up in the early
hours of the morning, and that'show we go.

(01:03:31):
But this grazing, grazingovernight is not too bad.
We don't want to be having bigmeals overnight.
But no, they didn't actuallyshift work.
Cavemen were literally asleepat night and awake during the
day because they're not goinghow Hunting at night?
No, I couldn't see.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
I Know that there are many, many young mums, for
example, who would be listeningto the radio right now.
Yeah, because they've got to getup and they're doing a feed,
yes, okay, and that in a senseis it's life-changing, because
you have no choice to do it.
You've got to feed baby whenbaby says, oh, I want something
to eat newborns in particular,obviously.
So good morning to all thosemums.

(01:04:10):
Daughter number two is is just,just after three months,
getting little one into aroutine.
So, you know, goes down, spendsan hour and a half in the
middle of the night and thenthey get some more rest.
Oh, must be challenging mom'sextreme how they do it extremely
challenging for mums, theirshift workers.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
In themselves, they're actual, true living
angels and we underestimate that.
Going to bed, getting up, goingto bed, getting up all the time
with children and the struggle.
But this is why low light, thisfeed in the low light.
Remember, mothers Are bornbiologically to cope with this
and to do with this, to feedtheir young Overnight.
So which what we do is we don'twant to introduce television

(01:04:53):
and Lights, bright lights, andscrolling on our phones in the
middle of the night, becausethat's where we are stuffing
ourselves up.
So what we want to do is wewant to be getting up, getting
baby Going and sitting quietlyin the rocking chair, feeding
baby in very, very low light.
Back to bed.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
Beautiful and a very comfy chair in a very
comfortable chair.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
They deserve that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
Maggie, good morning.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
Oh.

Speaker 9 (01:05:16):
Good morning.
Oh well, yeah, I am.
Let me say I am Extremely tired, you know, and somehow I Tend
to fight it, I dare say.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Because why, maggie?
What if I?

Speaker 9 (01:05:39):
I don't know, I don't know that something within me
and I Don't look.
I don't know, I'm so jumpy, mymind doesn't stop, I'm over

(01:05:59):
tired, but then, once I'm trulyWoken up, you know, then that's
it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
You may have spoken to a doctor.
You talk to your doctor aboutthat and then get some feedback
as to why you've got thisconstant feeling of fatigue and
that the mind is racing.
And what did he or she sayabout?

Speaker 9 (01:06:21):
that, oh God, yeah, I look, I have to Revisit, but
you know, the focus seems to beon other things.
I Suspect, but you know,without you know going yeah, but
make it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
You do understand that the more this goes on, the
worse it's actually going to get, because it's impacting on your
mental health at the same timeand your mental health will
impact on your sleep.
So what you need because yourbrain relies on us actually
going to sleep and detoxifyingso that it keeps us healthy It'd
be really important to go andhave a chat with your doctor and

(01:06:58):
try and get some sort ofHealthcare plan, to go and see a
sleep specialist, to getyourself back into a nice
routine, to be healthy, becauseit's not healthy what you're
doing.

Speaker 9 (01:07:10):
Yeah, yeah, look you don't know how.
No, no, nor would I wish todivulge a lot of this time.
Yeah but you know it is is.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
Sleep is a really good coping mechanism for us to
make it that is.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
It's a very important .
It is and it's intrinsicallylinked.
Maggie, thank you so much foryour call.
Always good to hear that voice.
1-336-93.
Now here's a question for thelistener.
If you could name one movie,one film that deals with the
idea of sleep or lack thereof,what would that be?

(01:07:51):
One great movie, the deals withsleep or the lack thereof?
What movie would that be?
One, double, three, six, nine,three Rogers here, roger, and we
talk about Roger Southern comesin every couple of weeks if we
talk about shift workers andhe's very kindly stayed for an
extra length.

(01:08:12):
The extended version for thisThursday morning, possibly
insomnia and Al Pacino and RobinWilliams.
Thank you, claire.
What have other people got?
Roman, adelaide morning Roman.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
Morning Tony.

Speaker 17 (01:08:26):
I've got an agraritical for you, totally off
of subject.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
No, not at all.
Feel free to handball it across.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
What do you call it?
The hen responsible for fillingup all those egg cartons?

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
What do you call a hen?

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
Responsible for filling all those egg cartons
for filling all those eggcartons.

Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
I don't know what do you call a hen filling up all
those egg cartons.

Speaker 17 (01:08:50):
That's my chicken.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
Ah, excellent work, roman.
Thank you Very funny.
Well done, tina in Roeville,good morning.

Speaker 15 (01:09:00):
Good morning Tony.
How are you?

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
I'm well Rogers here as well.
Good morning to you, Tina.

Speaker 15 (01:09:05):
Good morning to Roger as well Morning.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Tina, how are you?

Speaker 15 (01:09:08):
I've got a couple of movies that I've always enjoyed
watching.
Normally watch them wheneverthey pop on To do with sleep
Obviously sleepless in Seattle.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Yes, we both said that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Now, we both wrote that down.
So we didn't know what eitherone of us was going to say, and
that is the one that instantlyjumped to mine Yep.

Speaker 15 (01:09:32):
And and I've also, and I've also got another one
which.
I, I mentally enjoy watching,and that is while you were
sleeping.
Whoa the bullet now was it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Was that a bit scary?
Was that a?

Speaker 15 (01:09:45):
thriller.
No, it's a lovely romance.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Right rom-com.
Here's another one for you,rom-com.
I've got one.
I just came to me Julia Robertssleeping with the enemy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Oh yes.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Yeah, don't, don't watch it at this time of the
morning.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
Well done.
It's lovely Tina review and Ispoken.

Speaker 15 (01:10:08):
Maybe a long time ago.
I did call the radio stationwhen Neil Mitchell was leaving
the station and I think he hadto pop in early in the morning
because I told everybody thathe'd find a Mercedes.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Oh, that's right.
Toy car apparently yes, Iremembered that that was.
That's fantastic and he cameinto the studio I think it was
the day of the morning he wasleaving.

Speaker 15 (01:10:31):
He was very upset.
Yes coming to the studio toclear things up, because I Don't
return this world around.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
I think we I think whether it was a bit of a rumor
we started saying Mercedes-BenzBerwick had presented him with a
Mercedes on his retirement.
That's what I thought I heard,but obviously it was a little
toy.

Speaker 15 (01:10:51):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:10:51):
was funny.

Speaker 15 (01:10:53):
Tina.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
I don't know whether you get the opportunity to
listen to any podcast on the 3aw app, but he's just done a
wonderful podcast.
You'll find the podcast on the3a w app and it's well and truly
worthwhile, and People on the5a a can listen to it as well,
because he's much loved as thechair of the Port Adelaide footy
club.
It cost you cause, so have alisten to.

(01:11:16):
It's wonderful, Tina.

Speaker 15 (01:11:17):
Thank you always listening to good on you, tina.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Thank you, mel Scott's head.

Speaker 14 (01:11:23):
Good morning.
Oh, I'm on Tony morning, tony,the film I'm trying to think of.
It's got Robin Williams Doctorto near to Nero and the doctor.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
I think we just lost you.
Did we just lose you there?
Sorry, we might have just lostthat.
Call One, double, three, six,nine, three.
Where are we off to?
Let's go to.
Who am I going to hear?
Let's sorry, mel, for whateverreason we've lost you.
See if we can get you back,paul and Dan, and on morning
Paul.

Speaker 8 (01:11:50):
Good morning.
There's a movie.
There's a movie I can't recallthe name, but it's with Robert
De Niro and he's in Antarctica,where it's all Canada, where the
sun doesn't go down for sixmonths of the year.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
Yeah, well now you can't remember what it's called.
No, I'm sure if you Google it.
Yeah, somebody let us know.
More importantly, one of thegreat listeners was let us know.
So it's.
You reckon it's to Nero?

Speaker 8 (01:12:22):
Yeah, definitely to Nero.
And yeah, the Sun, the Sun, theSun doesn't go down for six
months of the year and I'mtrying to try some people a
little bit crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
Yes, it does.
Having been in that part of theworld, it is really weird,
where three o'clock in themorning and the Sun is in one
angle and the moon is in theother Part of the horizon and
it's really weird, but it'sfantastic, it's very romantic.
Well done, mel.
Thank you, hugo.
Good morning you go.

(01:12:56):
Yeah, we do it.
Hugo said you go and I said no,you go.

Speaker 16 (01:13:02):
You know they say Tony a bird.
The bush is with the head.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
That's right, it's a great old commercial, hugo.
What's happening on the road?

Speaker 16 (01:13:09):
Honestly don't like to do a bit of poultry delivery.
This morning we're about.
Gembrook.
Oh excellent, I'm sweet on theroad today.
It's absolutely nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
Now, hugo, what time?
What time do you start yourdrive?

Speaker 16 (01:13:25):
I start at 11 30 and I'll be off at about 3 30.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
So 11, 30, 30, 30, so it's about a four hour shift.

Speaker 16 (01:13:34):
Yes, it's small glue brewers even so, you know,
usually we get it done out aboutthe borders.
But what are these?
Uh, what are the companies of?
I can't remember because KFC orwhat the?
What are the?
The bloody chicken joint done,the Nando's?
Nando's, they do like a littleemergency delivery, but the

(01:13:55):
Thursday morning and usuallyit's not too bad, you'll be at
it's up about eight nine.
You know I am in the morning.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
And so, when would you have a rest then, hugo?
What time of the day would yourest?

Speaker 16 (01:14:07):
I'd be off go bed in the ground.
You know I'll be about one tothe bed, seven usually.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
In the afternoon.

Speaker 16 (01:14:15):
Yeah, usually if I'm doing the night sort of one in
the morning, you know I I'dleave the work side is about.
I can't do it about 5, 30 andthen leave it about two, three
and how long you, how longyou've been doing those sorts of
hours.
Not enough.
You know, you know changes, asthey say.

(01:14:36):
You know, uh, it really dependson our contract.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
Yeah, of course.

Speaker 16 (01:14:41):
Yeah, it's like sweet as jebbrook and honestly
this evening is probably the bigcloudy stars out there, but you
know that the moon it's threequarters of the way for you.
You see the rabbit dance.
I think it's pretty lady.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
The rabbit's.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
that's fantastic you sound like a great bloke here
you go.
I've been a great time out onthe road.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
We're losing the lines.
I'm not too sure why.
Mel, I think we've got you inscott's head, good morning.
Good morning, I'll try again nocan you hear?

Speaker 16 (01:15:11):
me.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
Yeah, loud and clear.
Well, you dropped out, soforgive.

Speaker 14 (01:15:15):
Now problem.
Um, just very quickly.
The film is robertinero is apatient and Robin Williams is
the doctor, and they comes upwith a new drug and it stops the
tremors and they sleep normally.
But there's a shocking sideeffect and it's a really moving
film back probably 25, 30 yearsago.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
About 25, 35 years ago, we'll see what you find out
the name of it and we'll leteverybody know the other side of
this, mel, thank you.
Always good to hear that voice,scott's head.
It is Australia overnight,roger fun tonight.
Thank you for that.
Now the the uh App.
It's really interesting andworthwhile for people that are
on shift work.

(01:15:54):
Dalla, there's a.
It's a good idea to do it andyou'll work it out for yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Yeah, yeah, thank you very much for having me for the
extra Out tonight.
It's been fantastic.
Arca shift, arca shift is theactual app Created by Arca scope
and I really would look forwardto people giving it a go.
We've worked really hard onthis app.
Give it a go and give themfeedback.
Give us feedback so that we canimprove it and make it

(01:16:19):
absolutely perfect.
We want it to be the absolutego-to for shift workers.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
All right, we've got 15 seconds If people want to
contact you or have a look atthe website a healthy shiftcom
heaps of me there.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
instagram at a underscore Healthy underscore
shift.
Thank you, and I'll see you intwo weeks a couple of weeks time
.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
Thank you, roger Sutherland.
A healthy shift.
It is australia overnight.
This is Hopefully a healthyshift.
The overnight program Australiaovernight.
I'm turning mcmannis back, theother side.

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