April 9, 2025 • 46 mins
When a tow truck driver's head gets run over during a routine repossession, it highlights the extreme dangers towing professionals face daily. Our latest episode dives into this shocking incident and several other headline-grabbing stories affecting the towing community nationwide.
We examine the case of an Alabama ex-officer charged with murder after a fatal shooting during a truck repossession, a Montana towing company suing after being permanently removed from a police rotation list, and a predatory tower now serving house arrest after charging victims up to $11,000 per tow. These stories illustrate both the challenges and accountability within our industry.
The heart of our episode features an exclusive interview with Perry Beatty, founder of Hazmat Responder Network. Perry shares his remarkable journey from becoming proficient in light-duty recovery at just 14 years old to developing specialized expertise in hazardous material response. His insights reveal a lucrative opportunity many towing companies overlook: HAZWOPER certification to handle spill cleanup at accident scenes.
"Don't leave money on the table," Beatty advises. "You're already on scene – dominate the scene and handle the entire cleanup." He explains how the 40-hour HAZWOPER certification empowers towing operators to not only recover vehicles but also manage environmental hazards, creating substantial additional revenue streams while providing a valuable service to emergency responders who prefer working with a single service provider.
Whether you're looking to expand your towing business offerings or simply stay informed about industry developments, this episode delivers practical knowledge from someone who's built multiple successful operations in the towing and recovery space. Connect with the Hazmat Responder Network at 877-356-9767 or visit hazmatrn.com to learn how you can secure this valuable certification.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome one and all to the American Towing Recovery
Institute podcast.
I want to remind all of youthat the American Towing
Recovery Institute aims topromote professionalism, safety
and education within the towingand recovery industry.
Remember, we provide trainingand certification programs for
towing operators.
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research and development ofelectric and alternative fuel
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Now.
Here is Towing News Now.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
This is Towing News.
Now we have a follow-up of astory out of Alabama about an
ex-officer who fatally shot aman during truck repossession.
We covered his trial a whileback and he has been denied
immunity.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
As a result of the facts and evidence presented in
this case.
The grand jury unanimouslyreturned an indictment against
Mack Bailey Marquette, charginghim with the crime of murder.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
After months of investigations into the shooting
death of Steve Perkins, aformer Decatur police officer is
now charged with murder.
Morgan County District AttorneyScott Anderson announced Friday
morning that Mack Marquette hadbeen arrested for shooting and
killing Steve Perkins in hisfront yard.
Law enforcement agencies havedenied repeated requests to see
body camera video from the nightPerkins was killed.
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Now his family will get to seeit, but Anderson says he's
keeping it from the public toavoid tainting the jury pool.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
My job is to seek justice and do it the best that
I can, and the best way that Ican seek justice is to make sure
that everybody gets a fairtrial, and that that can only
happen if we've got the largestjury pool in Morgan County that
we can have.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
He claims, previously released videos created rumors
and speculation.
It's something he wishes toavoid, since the video will be
used as evidence at trial.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
As a result of posting the door count footage,
you had untruths, half-truths,speculations, innuendos, rumors,
and it just goes on and on, andall those were shared, and so
that evidence, while it is stillgood evidence, is tainted with
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opinions.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
We keep you updated if anything happens.
We have another follow-up storyfrom a previous podcast out of
Billings, Montana, when a towtruck company got removed from
the police list rotation.
Now this tow truck company issuing the city.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
When an accident happens, the police will
sometimes call for a tow truck.
Anderson Towing has beenpermanently suspended from that
rotation.
The company is now allegingthat the city has violated its
due process rights.
When police respond to a crashand a tow truck is needed,
officers will not be callingAnderson Towing.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Essentially a death penalty for a towing business.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Matthew Monfortin is the attorney for Anderson Towing
and says the suspension cameabout after a crash in downtown
Billings.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
This is a clear violation of Anderson to.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
The court filing states a no notice or hearing
from permanent suspension in vprocess clause of the 14t on a
towing list when you a propertyright that sho away from the
company.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Wit due process of law.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Retired District Court Judge Russell Fagg
received a bill of more than$1,700 to pick up his dad's car.
Fagg said he was overcharged sohe filed a complaint with the
Office of Consumer Protectionand later asked the city to take
Anderson out of the rotation.
In a letter to the cityattorney's office, russ Fagg
said his goal is to haveAnderson Towing taken out of the
rotation for towing companiescalled by the BPD, so billing
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citizens are no longer subjectto their price gaging and
mistreatment.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
The permanent removal was based on Judge Faggs'
allegation from a tow thatoccurred a month ago.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
In court documents, Chief St John stated in a letter
to Anderson Towing the city ofBillings received informal
complaints from citizensregarding excessive invoices
received from Anderson Towing.
Following local rotation calls,Anderson Towing is removed from
the Billings local rotation.
This decision is permanent andwill not be reconsidered.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
We have never seen what those informal complaints
are.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
A spokesperson says police followed the same
procedures as the state for towtruck complaints.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
When Anderson Towing gets to have their day in court,
we're going to have theevidence to disprove these
allegations.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
There's been a lot of stories about tow truck
businesses having predatorypractices, but here's a story
about justice being served outof Pittsburgh, with an owner of
a tow truck service now servinghouse arrest after pleading
guilty A year and a half afterwe exposed a local tow truck
operator charging victims asmuch as $11,000 a tow.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
He's taking a plea deal to avoid possibly going to
jail.
Kdk lead investigator, AndySheehan, first reported on the
towing practices of Vince Fanikand Fanik Towing and Andy was
there when Fanik went to courttoday.
Speaker 8 (05:47):
You got a plea bargain Vince Facing 151 counts
of fraud and theft by deception.
Tow truck operator Vince Fanikheaded into District Judge James
Hanley's courtroom, waiving hishearing and agreeing to make
restitution to victims whilepleading guilty to some charges.
Speaker 9 (06:06):
I feel like he stole my car.
Yeah, I just want my car back.
Speaker 8 (06:09):
The plea bargain comes a year and a half after we
first exposed Fanex towingprosecutors' term predatory,
charging some 36 victims $8,000,$9,000, $10,000 and as much as
$11,000 to tow their cars shortdistances and holding the
vehicles hostage until they payup.
In each case, fannick chargedthe victims thousands for the
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tow and thousands more forphantom recovery, gate and
administrative fees, allegedservices which prosecutors say
were never performed.
Instead of fighting the charges, fanik waived his hearing and
will plead guilty to some countswhen he's formally arraigned in
May.
County detectives and membersof the Attorney General's office
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would not reveal the details ofthe plea, but sources say he'll
be on house arrest and need tomake restitution to victims.
Didn't you have any secondthoughts about your telling?
Speaker 10 (07:04):
He's not going to talk to the press today.
Speaker 8 (07:06):
Fanick said nothing leaving the court, but sources
say as part of his agreementhe'll be required to make a
public service message aboutpredatory towing.
Do you believe that this waspredatory on these victims?
Speaker 10 (07:21):
I mean the insurance companies agreed and paid for
an awfully long time and he wasoffering services.
I don't really have an opinioneither way.
Speaker 8 (07:28):
After serving house arrest, making restitution and
recording that public serviceannouncement.
His attorney says Fannick willtry to put this matter behind
him.
She says he is leaving thetowing business for good.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
This is a reminder to all tow truck operators that we
need to keep a good image.
Here's a story out of Charlotte, North Carolina, about a tow
truck driver unknowinglydelivering a stolen SUV to
thieves.
Speaker 12 (07:59):
An unsuspecting tow truck driver was caught in the
middle of an elaborate scheme.
A dealership needed an SUVtowed and the tow truck driver
unknowingly dropped it off rightinto the hands of the thieves.
All this according to courtdocuments.
Speaker 13 (08:15):
It all started here at this parking lot you see
behind me.
According to a search warrant,a tow truck driver came here to
pick up that SUV and take itdown to a dealership in South
Carolina.
But when he got here thatvehicle was nowhere to be found,
and it turns out that's becauseanother tow company had already
picked it up, not knowing theywere helping thieves.
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Sam Serhal says he's stilldumbfounded at how he fell for a
scam, innocently andunknowingly helping thieves
steal a 2023 Chevrolet Suburban.
In January he signed up to towthe SUV off this lot on Remount
Road and drop it off three milesaway at this Goodwill parking
lot on Wilkinson Boulevard.
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We negotiated a price of $145.
He did the job and was paidthrough Zell.
But in hindsight he says somethings were suspicious.
Speaker 14 (09:07):
The guy called me says drop it at the end of the
parking lot and hide the keys inthe gas tank.
I said dude, this is a 2023vehicle.
You sure you want to do that inCharlotte?
You know, I said I hate to tellyou that Charlotte, the old
Charlotte, doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 13 (09:31):
Court documents say it was all a scheme by crooks
who tricked Sir Hall and CentralDispatch, who post towing jobs,
into taking the car to this lotwhere thieves picked it up.
I was like holy cow.
That guy played us.
Here's how Sir Hall believes ithappened.
He says a dealership in SouthCarolina bought the car from
Enterprise in Charlotte.
The tow job was posted toCentral Dispatch, asking for a
company to tow the vehicle tothe South Carolina dealership.
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But instead Sir Hall believessomeone hacked into Central
Dispatch and acted as atransport company, a middleman,
to swipe the vehicle, possiblyeven creating fraudulent
documents to gain access to thecar.
The fraudulent transportcompany then told Sirha their
tow trucks could not fit in thelot to grab the SUV, so they
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asked Sirha's company for help.
Now Sam Sirha tells meeverything seemed legit.
It is why he is warning othercompanies To keep your guards up
, especially in the line of workof tow truck companies.
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Meanwhile, according to thatsearch warrant, investigators
were trying to find the personon the other end of that Zelle
account, but according to apolice report, they exhausted
all their leads and came upshort.
A small little extra tidbithere for you that Zelle account,
though, was actually tied toanother stolen vehicle in
Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
We'll keep you updated on this story.
Here's a story about a towtruck in an accident that led to
driving into a person's housein Lebanon, Ohio.
Speaker 12 (11:03):
A woman in Warren County is alive tonight thanks
to the sound of snapping treebranches.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
Yeah.
So Tracy Schonkweiler wasnearly run over by a tow truck
while she was resting in herliving room.
Speaker 15 (11:14):
This all happening near the corner of Warren and
East Street in downtown Lebanon,a tarp now covering a gaping
hole in the house you're lookingat here on Warren Street in
Lebanon that's divided intoapartments.
Just before lunchtime today, atow truck carrying a car on its
bed.
The BED WAS IN THE LIVING ROOMOF HER APARTMENT.
The BED WAS IN THE LIVING ROOMOF HER HOUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT
HERE ON WARREN STREET IN LEBANON.
That's DIVIDED INTO APARTMENTS.
Just BEFORE LUNCHTIME TODAY, aTOW TRUCK CARRYING A CAR ON ITS.
Speaker 16 (11:32):
BED BLASTED IN A TRACY SCHONKWEILER STREET LE the
house.
She was in the living room.
She was in the living room.
Speaker 15 (11:37):
She was in the living room.
Speaker 16 (11:39):
Sean Wilder was watching TV from a bed that's in
the living room of herapartment At least that's where
the bed was before a tow truckslammed through her living room
wall.
Speaker 15 (11:52):
It made it into the house.
He was going pretty fast.
Speaker 16 (11:54):
Sean Wilder told me crashes at the intersection of
Warren Street and East Streetare not uncommon, but the sound
on my bed and got up and startedrunning.
I was about three feet from thebed when the tow truck, with
the vehicle on the bed, camecrashing through.
If I hadn't gotten up I wouldhave been underneath the vehicle
and wouldn't be talking to youright now.
Speaker 15 (12:14):
Police say the ordeal began when the driver of
the tow truck collided with apickup truck a few feet away
from Shankweiler's apartment.
The force of that crash pushedthe tow truck into the corner of
a brick house next to whereSHOCKWILER'S APARTMENT.
The FORCE OF THAT CRASH PUSHEDTHE TOE TRUCK INTO THE CORNER OF
A BRICK HOUSE NEXT TO WHERESHOCKWILER LIVES, before COMING
TO A SCREECHING STOP IN HERLIVING SPACE.
Shook OUR WHOLE FOUNDATION,nick DAVIS, lives IN THE BRICK
HOUSE.
That WAS HIT no-transcript.
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Well, two other tenants racedout of their apartments, along
with Tracy Schoenquiler, whojust had enough time to throw a
robe on.
All those tenants are beinghelped by the Red Cross tonight.
The investigation into thiscrash and whether or not speed
played a role is now ongoing.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Here's a story out of Los Angeles about a robbery
suspect running over apedestrian with a tow truck.
Speaker 10 (13:13):
We begin this afternoon with breaking news in
South LA.
Reports of a robbery involvinga tow truck, then a man run over
and rushed to a hospital.
Speaker 11 (13:21):
Police are, in fact still searching for the suspect.
The tow truck is actually herejust a little over a mile away
from where it was initiallystolen.
Witnesses here telling us thatthe driver behind the wheel was
driving so fast that smoke wascoming out of the tire of one of
the cars that was towed andalso the front tire of the tow
truck itself.
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Jacqueline Reyes was walking toan appointment when she saw a
man lying in the middle of thestreet near 39th and Broadway
Just after 10 30 am.
Lapd says they first got areport of a robbery involving a
tow truck and later a call of apedestrian being struck.
Reyes says police andparamedics were rushing to help
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the man who was hit, eventuallyputting him on a stretcher and
rushing him to the hospital.
In fact, you can still see hisclothes in the middle of the
street.
Speaker 12 (14:10):
There was an injury reported as a result of the
incident.
He right now appears to be instable condition.
Speaker 11 (14:16):
LAPD Detective Christabel Yousef telling us
officers detained a person ofinterest at first but ended up
letting them go.
The driver who stole the towtruck, speeding off later,
dumping it near Normandy Avenueand Martin Luther King Jr
Boulevard before getting away,still canvassing and trying to
sort everything out.
Speaker 12 (14:35):
We don't want to put out anything prematurely.
Speaker 11 (14:37):
At this point they are collecting and reviewing
security camera footage andtalking to witnesses to catch
the person who did this, andinvestigators earlier were
swabbing this car to try to findany DNA that'll link them to
the suspect who stole this towtruck.
At this time they're justtrying to get the tow truck in a
way where it can be taken out.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
We'll keep you updated on this story, listener.
Discretion ahead over a storyof a tow truck driver's head
getting run over by a man tryingto flee a repo in Memphis,
tennessee.
Speaker 12 (15:15):
What appears to start as a routine repossession
turns violent when a Memphisrepo man gets underneath the
wheel of a car and the driverbacks over his head.
Ah F***.
Speaker 17 (15:29):
F***.
Speaker 12 (15:30):
Ah, oh, my God, I'm in my f***ing head Watch again
from the beginning as the towtruck driver grabs the chains to
secure this red Ford Focus aman runs behind him and hops
into the driver's seat, turns onthe ignition and hits reverse.
Memphis police say this unfoldedjust before 8 this morning here
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at the University Gardens ManorApartments.
Get out of here.
Are you going to get sued boyfolded?
Just before 8 this morning hereat the University Gardens Manor
Apartments, as the victimscreams in pain, a woman can be
seen disregarding him instead,directing the driver how to
escape.
Memphis police say the man andwoman fled the scene and
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miraculously, the victim is ableto walk away, sharing his
horrific experience on socialmedia along with these pictures
from his hospital bed showinghis injuries.
Memphis police say the victimhad abrasions on his head, a
large black mark on the front ofhis sweatshirt, complained of
arm pain and had to be shaken tobe kept conscious.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
It's hard to watch.
It's real hard to watch.
Speaker 12 (16:39):
Neighbors who didn't want to be identified, all
shaken by the video but alsoconcerned with how the whole
situation played out.
I feel sorry for him.
Speaker 8 (16:50):
I don't think his job did him poor bro.
I don't think as a person thattold cause he probably should
have seen, he should have lookedwhat was going on and decided
not to put his head in the car.
Speaker 12 (17:01):
Memphis police say a witness on scene told them they
had sold that car to the womanin the video who they say wasn't
making payments.
She told police she'd put thecar up for repossession and
contacted the repo man to pickit up.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
We're praying for this tow truck operator's
recovery and luckily we havenews that the woman and man
involved has been arrested.
Speaker 18 (17:27):
All right, after the break I'll be right back.
Speaker 19 (17:33):
Hi, I'm Perry Beatty .
Operate Flow Stop HazmatResponder Network geared toward
the towing and recovery industrywith equipment and training for
those individuals that respondto accidents that have fuel
spills, cargo mishaps, helpingthem attain that business
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through hazmat certification putforth through OSHA.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Welcome back listeners.
You know you're listening tothe new Towing News Channel.
Now I want to remind all of ourlisteners we are available on
Spotify, itunes, pandora.
We are available on Spotify,itunes, pandora, stitcher,
iheartmedia the number one inthe country Amazon or wherever
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you get your podcasts.
Remember to tune in every weekto Towing News Channel.
Speaker 18 (18:28):
And here's your Hazmat Hint of the Week with
Perry Beatty.
Speaker 19 (18:33):
Don't leave money on the table.
You're already on scene,Dominate the scene, Handle the
entire cleanup from not onlyvehicle recovery but any
spillage that takes place.
The government wants it cleanedup.
You must be HAZWOPER certifiedto do reportable quantities.
Now reportable quantities.
Speaker 18 (18:55):
Now reportable quantities.
Does that change state by state?
Speaker 19 (19:01):
It does.
55 US gallons is what thefederal government puts out.
However, the states can come inand go.
That's fine if you're in thusand so state, but here our
reportable quantity is 30gallons, or this state says 25
gallons, and if it's one gallonthat hits a body of water that
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supports marine life, thenthat's the reportable quantity.
Speaker 18 (19:31):
And it's just the right thing to do in that
situation especially, isn't itRight?
Thank you for that hazmat hint,and it's just the right thing
to do in that situationespecially, isn't it Right?
Speaker 9 (19:39):
Thank you for that Hazmat hint Perry let everybody
know how to reach you.
Speaker 19 (19:41):
You can contact me on my toll-free number,
877-356-9767, or email me directat perry at hazmatrncom.
That's perry P-E-R-R-Y athazmatrn, h-a-z-m-a-t-r-ncom.
Speaker 20 (20:12):
Thanks for listening to Towing News.
Now let's revisit our interviewwith Perry Beatty from the
Midwest Regional Tow Show inSeptember.
The following interviewprovides you with great
information and an opportunityto make your business more
profitable.
Speaker 17 (20:27):
Welcome back listeners.
You've been listening to theAmerican Towing Recovery
Institute podcast with WesWilburn.
Dj Harrington, our specialguest, is coming up in a minute.
Here, wes, let me turn it overto you and you introduce our
guest and get him going here.
Speaker 18 (20:42):
I certainly will.
You know, the towing industryis a great industry and you meet
a lot of acquaintances and somefriends and this gentleman here
is a true friend has proventhat to me over many decades.
When I got involved with recmaster in the early 90s,
education was not on a lot ofpeople's minds as a matter of
fact, it was ridiculed manytimes, etc.
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This gentleman here that I'mabout to introduce did exactly
the opposite.
He was president of the northcarolina towing and recovery
profession.
Towing recovery professionalsin north carolina excuse me, I
got I'm about to introduce didexactly the opposite.
He was president of the NorthCarolina Towing and Recovery
Professionals of North CarolinaExcuse me, I got the name wrong
and at that point that was avery strong organization with
very strong leadership that dida lot of different things.
And this gentleman had an activetowing business in Charlotte,
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north Carolina, and waspresident of the association I
don't remember it was me andTerry or myself at first came
and introduced the concept ofrec master and formalized
training to the association.
Instead of shunning us, perryBeatty did exactly the opposite.
He welcomed us with open arms,came to the class himself to see
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what was going on, didn't sendhis employees, came to the class
himself to see what was goingon, didn't send his employees,
came to the class himself to seewhat was going on with it and
then, when he liked what he saw,he activated the association to
help support it with ascholarship program and hosted
classes himself.
Like I say, he's become afriend, we became a friend.
I stayed in his home many timesin those classes, which in the
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early days.
The hospitality was nice andalso saving the money for a
hotel room in the beginning wasvery nice as well.
We struggled to get educationgoing in the industry.
So without further ado, I'dlike to introduce Perry Beatty
with FlowStop and HazmatResponder Network.
Perry, would you take a momentand introduce yourself to the
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listeners?
Speaker 19 (22:32):
Okay, thank you, wes .
You pretty well summed it up onhow we got connected.
That was a big turning point inmy days of towing and I've seen
the boost that it put in thedrivers once they came back from
a training session.
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I had the opportunity to changecareer paths.
Speaker 18 (22:59):
Well, before we I don't mean to interrupt, but
before we get there talk alittle bit about your background
.
How did you get involved in thetowing industry?
Speaker 19 (23:06):
Okay, well, I grew up working in my dad and uncle's
service station in Charlotte asa kid and I think I got bit
with a wrecker bug at about 10years of age and by the time I
was 14, I felt like I was prettyproficient on light-duty
recovery.
And when I was 16, I think threedays after I'd gotten my
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driver's license, I had toactually go out on a wreck
response.
Call myself Car overturned downan embankment.
I'd been at it for six yearsriding shotgun.
It wasn't anything that scaredme.
I knew exactly what to do andthe bystanders and law
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enforcement just was in awe of akid coming out and doing that.
And I built a reputation doinglight duty recovery.
Didn't know this until I'dgotten on up in years, but as my
friends retired from lawenforcement, they would make the
mention that if they ever had aserious accident and requested
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tow trucks, they were alwayshoping that it would be me to
show up.
Then it wouldn't be an issuegetting the road clear, and that
thrilled me, knowing that I waslooked at as such.
Speaker 18 (24:31):
Now your father and your uncle.
They treated the towingbusiness like a tire machine.
Right, it was just anotherpiece of the service station.
That's it.
Speaker 19 (24:39):
My dad didn't think that towing alone would afford a
business platform and Idisagreed.
I seen the opportunity and Idisagreed.
I seen the opportunity Nowgoing back.
I graduated from high school,had to register with the
Selective Service.
There was a little war gamegoing on in Southeast Asia
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called Vietnam Right, and it'sthe only lottery that I've ever
won.
My number was three.
So when I got called up thethird time, I threw the towel in
.
I was pretty much a draftdodger and I was going to a
community college to stay out ofthe military because fighting
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wasn't anything on my bucketlist.
But I went in, served two yearsactive duty, came back my dad
asked me to come back and helphim and I told him I said the
only thing that I want to focuson is towing.
So I had the opportunity.
Five years later I bought hisinterest in the towing part of
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it out, moved away from theservice station and then started
building up and got in theheavy A couple years after I'd
left the service station boughta set of lift cushions and we
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were off and running.
Speaker 18 (26:05):
Well, as the producers say, it's time to take
a break.
So we're going to take a quickbreak, hang around, and we're
going to talk more about whatPerry's doing today.
Speaker 9 (26:12):
So we're going to take a quick break, hang around
and we're going to talk moreabout what Perry's doing today
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Speaker 17 (26:47):
All right guys, welcome back.
We are live from the MidwestRegional Tow Show.
We have one of the greatestguys in the industry as our
guest, perry Beatty.
That I've known for years, butI have to tell everyone, just
like Wes and I, this is agentleman who stands for the
flag and kneels for the cross.
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So he believes in our industryand we believe in Perry so much.
So, wes, I'll turn it back overto you and I thank you, wes,
for bringing him on to theepisode, because he's our type
of guy.
Speaker 18 (27:21):
Dragged him in, kicking and screaming kind of
like you did to me, dj.
Kind of like you did to me, hey.
Speaker 17 (27:26):
I got to tell you you were number three in the
draft.
I was number seven in the draftand I became the librarian at
Port Dix, new Jersey.
Speaker 18 (27:37):
Yeah, I registered for that, but no draft was going
on when I was of age.
Speaker 17 (27:43):
We won the lottery that year yeah.
Speaker 18 (27:47):
God bless you all for serving the country.
All right, so tell us how yougot from starting your own
towing only operation I know youbuilt it up real big how you
got from there to where you aretoday okay, um, fast forward a
decade from the 80s to thebeginning of the 90s.
Speaker 19 (28:08):
Um, the program has whopperER is put together by the
federal government.
Right, they use three differentagencies.
You've got DOT, epa and OSHA.
Okay, osha is the law.
They came together, publishedMarch 6, 1990, the HAZWOPER
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program, and it fell in withSuperfund sites, abandoned sites
that had contaminated propertyand so forth.
Those had to be taken care ofnot to spread disease, and so
forth.
Well then, it got to where.
If there was an accident on thehighway and a substantial
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hydrocarbon spill diesel fuel,if you will that had to be
cleaned up.
And there's another deal thatwas published in 76, referred to
as RACRA, which is ResourceConservation and Recovery Act,
and it basically means restoringthe property back to its
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original state.
So if you have an accident thatspills 50, 100 gallons of
diesel, all that has to becleaned up and put right back in
the original state before theaccident.
Well, in doing so, thegovernment requires the
individuals that engage in thatto be HAZWOPER certified, right?
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Okay, so we were going out toaccidents involving spills, but
yet I had the ability, theequipment and the knowledge to
do it, but I didn't have whatthey referred to as
certification, so they wouldn'tallow me to do it.
And in baseball you get to goto the plate and swing three
times and miss and you're out,right.
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So where I'm leading into, wehad a jackknife in Charlotte on
one of the interstates.
Rush hour traffic Got there.
Trooper told me to get it outof the road, but a man in
civilian clothes told me not totouch it.
He was with the EPA and theydidn't want to do any
cross-contamination.
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They had a company coming outthat was going to sifle off the
tank so it wouldn't leak anyfurther and clean up what it had
spilled.
Well, they had a 20-minute ETAthat turned into two and a half
hours.
Oh, wow, okay.
The media with their live-eyehelicopter flying around showing
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my heavy on the side of theinterstate.
Naturally your fake news.
They say the wrecker can'thandle moving the truck and that
was not the case, right.
Two more of those deals happenedwithin about a month's period.
So I got heated up enough whereI called to find out what you
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had to do to do that kind ofwork get certified and the
person I spoke to in the northcarolina epa directed me to a
training facility and I took twoof my people.
We went and got certified andover a period of about five
months I put another companytogether, now Charlotte's in
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what's called the Piedmont ofthe Carolinas.
So I thought a hundred mileradius is going to be about my
best response area.
So I'll call this PiedmontEnvironmental Response Team and
then use the acronym PERC.
So we started off.
All our literature said have aspill, make it a PERC alert, all
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right.
So we were doing a lot of towingfor a lot of your common
carriers.
I won't name them all, but Ihad a good of telling for a lot
of your common carriers.
I won't name them all, but Ihad a good list of about a dozen
and I already had a rapportwith their safety directors for
working their accidents, went tothem, told them what our new
services were, that we wereoffering Instant client base and
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we stayed up with keeping upwith the latest technology as
far as equipment and so forth.
I got to the point where Icould even test the soil on
scene to make sure that I'dremoved all the contaminated
dirt before I did a backfillseed and straw.
So I sell the business in 98,and I stay on with the company
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until the end of 99, and I gohome.
Well, I kind of milled aroundwith a couple ideas and I came
up with a lightweight, chemical,hydrocarbon-resistant
inflatable that would block offthe exit ports of storm drains
that are static drain lines, andI put the name FlowStop on it.
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That's what it does stops theflow and I received a patent in
2004 for that.
And it just enlarged.
We just came up with moreproduct offering and it just
enlarged.
We just came up with moreproduct offering.
And then, at the urging ofTor's wife asking me to show
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them how to do that, I went andgot certified as an instructor
and then put HazMat ResponderNetwork together and I traveled
around the eastern seaboarddoing HAZWOPER classes.
Speaker 18 (33:35):
Texas is not the eastern seaboard, perry Well.
Speaker 19 (33:37):
I know, but I love those guys down there.
Speaker 18 (33:40):
Shout out to Mike and Laney Phillips great people,
oh yeah, so yeah.
And so, as he says, the easternseaboard, it's more than just
that.
I don't know at least east ofthe Mississippi.
Hang around.
Eastern seaboard, it's morethan just that.
I don't.
At least east of themississippi?
Uh, hang around.
We're going to take a quickbreak and we're going to get
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Speaker 17 (35:16):
Welcome back, guys.
We're live at the MidwestRegional Tow Show.
As you probably know from thisepisode, wes Wilburn, dj
Harrington, the Tow Doctor, andour special guest, perry Beatty.
Wonderful interview I want allof you to remember.
Share us with your friends,with fellow towers, our hotline
if you want to hear more guestslike Perry, just dial
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706-409-5603 and let Wes and Iknow that's who you'd like to
hear on another episode andwe'll do our best, like we've
been doing here at the MidwestRegional Tow Show up here in
Mason Ohio.
Speaker 18 (35:52):
Wes, let me turn it over to you so you developed the
Flow Stop product, took on awhole line of products to help
the towing industry and then gotinvolved in the Hazmat
Responders Network, which is aneducational format which matter
to our listeners.
I've done the 40-hour course.
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I've done the eight-hour tankupdate.
I don't know that I said thatperfect on the update but I've
done them both.
Perry, it's not onlyinformative, perry's an
interesting speaker that cankeep you interested in the
subject matter.
Let's face it that subjectmatter can be slightly dry at
times and Perry does a good jobof keeping it interesting and
keeping it moving and sharingwith you information that
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actually relates to yourday-to-day operations, more than
just going by the book andspouting out a bunch of
technical information.
That's one of the things I likeabout his instructional style.
So, perry, go ahead where weleft off and keep moving forward
with how you developed thisthing.
Speaker 19 (36:55):
Okay With HazMat Responder Network.
No one was specificallyassisting the towing market on
doing spill response, on doingspill response, and it was a big
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plus if a company had theability to do both the cleanup
and the recovery of the vehicle.
And the authorities love youknow as well as I do one call
gets it all covered so theydon't have two different
entities in the way of eachother getting a job done.
So a lot of Hazmat ResponderNetwork is a lot of classroom
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for all your regulations andrules that are set up through
those three agencies.
I mentioned at the beginning ofthe podcast beginning of the
podcast However, a lot of what Iexperienced actually in the
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field doing the work I bring tothe table, offering this in the
same training.
Well, we get a lot of tankeroverturns In doing so.
There's three main cargo tanksthat haul Class III, which are
your hydrocarbon flammablefluids, and then your Class VI
chemicals poisons, and yourClass VIII, which are your
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corrosives.
They're all hauled in threedifferent type of cargo tank
trailers.
So I took it upon myself tobuild these with all the
apparatus and importance thatyou'll find on these, and show
how to safely ground and bondand transfer those products.
Speaker 18 (38:40):
Yeah, so just to clarify with our listeners, he
built demos that are just likethe real tank, but it's a
tabletop version where you canroll it into a garage bay and
one of them, actually, he putsan aluminum slide in there and
you get the sensation or theexperience of drilling the side
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of a tanker for a pump-off.
I did it.
There's pictures of me onFacebook doing it at the class,
but these are desktop minitankers that can be rolled into
a classroom and trained andthey're an excellent training
tool.
Excellent training tool.
Speaker 19 (39:17):
The one that I have built that simulates a fuel
hauler.
We can rotate 90 degrees tosimulate an overturn.
And the beauty of it.
Everything on it is designed tofail.
Okay, and with that being said,we have the tools and the
equipment to stop the leaks sowe can prepare it for offload.
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And then, once we offload it,then we stand it upright again
and we can show everybody howyou approach that, to stop leaks
and so forth, to get itprepared to transfer the load
and then safely upright.
Speaker 18 (39:56):
And the same with chemical and corrosive haulers
too and you hold these classesall over the I'm going to say
east of the mississippi is moreaccurate, not trying to correct
you, but yeah, um, if somebodywants to do a class on their own
or attend a class, how do theyget in touch with you?
Speaker 19 (40:15):
Well, if they contact me, Hazmat Responder,
network Flow Stop.
Both share the same toll-freenumber.
They call that any time.
I'm like the old-school towtruck driver I'll answer the
phone any time you do the same.
Speaker 18 (40:31):
Yeah, what is that toll-free number?
Speaker 19 (40:32):
It's 877-356-9767.
That's correct.
Speaker 18 (40:42):
Good, we have you checking.
What about a website?
Speaker 19 (40:44):
Website is hazmatrn for Responder Network
hazmatrncom.
Speaker 18 (40:56):
So, Perry, why should a towing company consider
getting involved in this andnot just letting some other
entity do this?
I mean, are they leaving moneyon the ground?
Speaker 19 (41:06):
Well, absolutely.
This would broaden out theirscope of performance and
services offered, and it's notjust limited to traffic
accidents.
Once we got established andknown with the authorities,
companies started calling us forlike a loading dock, mishap
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spills on private property,construction, so forth, and it
was a good revenue producer, soit also assisted in getting the
road opened up.
Like I mentioned earlier, theauthorities really appreciated
that, so it opened a lot moredoors and it even created more
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business for the towing side ofthings, because we had that
ability to do it all.
Speaker 18 (41:58):
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Different towing companies Iknow around the country have
done that.
That's one of the things theytalk about and forward-thinking
companies work with other towingcompanies that develop their
hazmat company work with othertowing companies that develop
their hazmat company work withother towing companies.
I know John Redmond in Virginiais one that I know personally
that developed a cleanup companyand works with other towing
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companies.
It's simply business and it'ssimple business decisions.
So when somebody comes andtakes their 40-hour course, how
long does that certificationlast for?
Is it a certification orqualification?
Speaker 19 (42:37):
No, it's a certification, okay, okay, and
it's good for 12 months.
At the conclusion of the 12months following the training,
then OSHA requires thetechnician to have eight hours
annual refresher so they don'thave to go through the 40-hour
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course again.
Just on a yearly basis, aneight-hour refresher right and
then I offer that tank class asa annual refresher it's a
one-day class and also have arefresher for incident commander
.
On-scene supervisor.
Speaker 18 (43:13):
Okay.
Speaker 19 (43:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 18 (43:15):
And not only towing operators, but fire personnel
and whatnot.
Take this 40-hour course withyou.
Speaker 19 (43:22):
Sometimes the fire service has sent reps and
firefighters to it, but bear inmind they don't do cleanup and
disposal.
So there's three levels ofhazmat.
You've got your awareness.
That's only eight hours and theonly thing that you're able to
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do is witness and respond as faras reporting to authorities.
Then you have operation, whichis a 24-hour course and it
allows you to remotely stop thespill from spreading.
But then you have technician,which allows you to go in, stop
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it at the source of the leak,clean it up and dispose of it
according to the EPA OSHAguidelines.
Speaker 18 (44:14):
So one of the things you bring to the table is to
help folks keep up with allthese different what they can do
, what they can't do, etc.
And can back it up withvalidation.
Exactly, that's huge, becausethat's a whole jungle in itself,
isn't it?
Speaker 19 (44:29):
and when we conclude the 40-hour class, uh, I give a
list of vendors that have uhproducts and services that'll
help them.
It's not locked in on that, butit gives them a starting point
where to go for supplies and uhlike insurance, for that matter
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to cover it so.
Speaker 18 (44:51):
So it's a full service organization,
organization helping the towingoperator.
Completely go in that direction.
I try to leave no rock unturned.
God bless you.
You've always been verythorough like that.
Anything you'd like to sharewith us in closing?
Speaker 19 (45:08):
I'm just pleased to see people take on elevating
their service level up Right andI've seen a lot of success in
the past eight years.
Speaker 18 (45:22):
Yeah, and I've seen a lot of it as well.
You've helped a lot oforganizations grow their
business and be able to takecare of their families better
and that's huge and controltheir own destiny a little bit
too.
Everybody knows the value ofthat.
Well, perry, I can't thank youenough for taking time on a busy
morning.
The show is open.
There's people all over thefloor and I got Perry away from
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his booth, so we're going tokick him out of here.
We're going to thank him andkick him out of here and let him
go back to his booth to answerquestions.
It looks like he's got to lineup from here.
So, perry, thank you so muchfor taking your time on this
busy morning.
Speaker 17 (45:54):
Wes thanks for having me, Perry.
Thank you very much.
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Now.
Here is Towing News Now.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
This is Towing News.
Now we have a follow-up of astory out of Alabama about an
ex-officer who fatally shot aman during truck repossession.
We covered his trial a whileback and he has been denied
immunity.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
As a result of the facts and evidence presented in
this case.
The grand jury unanimouslyreturned an indictment against
Mack Bailey Marquette, charginghim with the crime of murder.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
After months of investigations into the shooting
death of Steve Perkins, aformer Decatur police officer is
now charged with murder.
Morgan County District AttorneyScott Anderson announced Friday
morning that Mack Marquette hadbeen arrested for shooting and
killing Steve Perkins in hisfront yard.
Law enforcement agencies havedenied repeated requests to see
body camera video from the nightPerkins was killed.
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Now his family will get to seeit, but Anderson says he's
keeping it from the public toavoid tainting the jury pool.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
My job is to seek justice and do it the best that
I can, and the best way that Ican seek justice is to make sure
that everybody gets a fairtrial, and that that can only
happen if we've got the largestjury pool in Morgan County that
we can have.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
He claims, previously released videos created rumors
and speculation.
It's something he wishes toavoid, since the video will be
used as evidence at trial.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
As a result of posting the door count footage,
you had untruths, half-truths,speculations, innuendos, rumors,
and it just goes on and on, andall those were shared, and so
that evidence, while it is stillgood evidence, is tainted with
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opinions.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
We keep you updated if anything happens.
We have another follow-up storyfrom a previous podcast out of
Billings, Montana, when a towtruck company got removed from
the police list rotation.
Now this tow truck company issuing the city.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
When an accident happens, the police will
sometimes call for a tow truck.
Anderson Towing has beenpermanently suspended from that
rotation.
The company is now allegingthat the city has violated its
due process rights.
When police respond to a crashand a tow truck is needed,
officers will not be callingAnderson Towing.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Essentially a death penalty for a towing business.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
Matthew Monfortin is the attorney for Anderson Towing
and says the suspension cameabout after a crash in downtown
Billings.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
This is a clear violation of Anderson to.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
The court filing states a no notice or hearing
from permanent suspension in vprocess clause of the 14t on a
towing list when you a propertyright that sho away from the
company.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Wit due process of law.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
Retired District Court Judge Russell Fagg
received a bill of more than$1,700 to pick up his dad's car.
Fagg said he was overcharged sohe filed a complaint with the
Office of Consumer Protectionand later asked the city to take
Anderson out of the rotation.
In a letter to the cityattorney's office, russ Fagg
said his goal is to haveAnderson Towing taken out of the
rotation for towing companiescalled by the BPD, so billing
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citizens are no longer subjectto their price gaging and
mistreatment.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
The permanent removal was based on Judge Faggs'
allegation from a tow thatoccurred a month ago.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
In court documents, Chief St John stated in a letter
to Anderson Towing the city ofBillings received informal
complaints from citizensregarding excessive invoices
received from Anderson Towing.
Following local rotation calls,Anderson Towing is removed from
the Billings local rotation.
This decision is permanent andwill not be reconsidered.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
We have never seen what those informal complaints
are.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
A spokesperson says police followed the same
procedures as the state for towtruck complaints.
Speaker 6 (05:05):
When Anderson Towing gets to have their day in court,
we're going to have theevidence to disprove these
allegations.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
There's been a lot of stories about tow truck
businesses having predatorypractices, but here's a story
about justice being served outof Pittsburgh, with an owner of
a tow truck service now servinghouse arrest after pleading
guilty A year and a half afterwe exposed a local tow truck
operator charging victims asmuch as $11,000 a tow.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
He's taking a plea deal to avoid possibly going to
jail.
Kdk lead investigator, AndySheehan, first reported on the
towing practices of Vince Fanikand Fanik Towing and Andy was
there when Fanik went to courttoday.
Speaker 8 (05:47):
You got a plea bargain Vince Facing 151 counts
of fraud and theft by deception.
Tow truck operator Vince Fanikheaded into District Judge James
Hanley's courtroom, waiving hishearing and agreeing to make
restitution to victims whilepleading guilty to some charges.
Speaker 9 (06:06):
I feel like he stole my car.
Yeah, I just want my car back.
Speaker 8 (06:09):
The plea bargain comes a year and a half after we
first exposed Fanex towingprosecutors' term predatory,
charging some 36 victims $8,000,$9,000, $10,000 and as much as
$11,000 to tow their cars shortdistances and holding the
vehicles hostage until they payup.
In each case, fannick chargedthe victims thousands for the
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tow and thousands more forphantom recovery, gate and
administrative fees, allegedservices which prosecutors say
were never performed.
Instead of fighting the charges, fanik waived his hearing and
will plead guilty to some countswhen he's formally arraigned in
May.
County detectives and membersof the Attorney General's office
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would not reveal the details ofthe plea, but sources say he'll
be on house arrest and need tomake restitution to victims.
Didn't you have any secondthoughts about your telling?
Speaker 10 (07:04):
He's not going to talk to the press today.
Speaker 8 (07:06):
Fanick said nothing leaving the court, but sources
say as part of his agreementhe'll be required to make a
public service message aboutpredatory towing.
Do you believe that this waspredatory on these victims?
Speaker 10 (07:21):
I mean the insurance companies agreed and paid for
an awfully long time and he wasoffering services.
I don't really have an opinioneither way.
Speaker 8 (07:28):
After serving house arrest, making restitution and
recording that public serviceannouncement.
His attorney says Fannick willtry to put this matter behind
him.
She says he is leaving thetowing business for good.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
This is a reminder to all tow truck operators that we
need to keep a good image.
Here's a story out of Charlotte, North Carolina, about a tow
truck driver unknowinglydelivering a stolen SUV to
thieves.
Speaker 12 (07:59):
An unsuspecting tow truck driver was caught in the
middle of an elaborate scheme.
A dealership needed an SUVtowed and the tow truck driver
unknowingly dropped it off rightinto the hands of the thieves.
All this according to courtdocuments.
Speaker 13 (08:15):
It all started here at this parking lot you see
behind me.
According to a search warrant,a tow truck driver came here to
pick up that SUV and take itdown to a dealership in South
Carolina.
But when he got here thatvehicle was nowhere to be found,
and it turns out that's becauseanother tow company had already
picked it up, not knowing theywere helping thieves.
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Sam Serhal says he's stilldumbfounded at how he fell for a
scam, innocently andunknowingly helping thieves
steal a 2023 Chevrolet Suburban.
In January he signed up to towthe SUV off this lot on Remount
Road and drop it off three milesaway at this Goodwill parking
lot on Wilkinson Boulevard.
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We negotiated a price of $145.
He did the job and was paidthrough Zell.
But in hindsight he says somethings were suspicious.
Speaker 14 (09:07):
The guy called me says drop it at the end of the
parking lot and hide the keys inthe gas tank.
I said dude, this is a 2023vehicle.
You sure you want to do that inCharlotte?
You know, I said I hate to tellyou that Charlotte, the old
Charlotte, doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 13 (09:31):
Court documents say it was all a scheme by crooks
who tricked Sir Hall and CentralDispatch, who post towing jobs,
into taking the car to this lotwhere thieves picked it up.
I was like holy cow.
That guy played us.
Here's how Sir Hall believes ithappened.
He says a dealership in SouthCarolina bought the car from
Enterprise in Charlotte.
The tow job was posted toCentral Dispatch, asking for a
company to tow the vehicle tothe South Carolina dealership.
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But instead Sir Hall believessomeone hacked into Central
Dispatch and acted as atransport company, a middleman,
to swipe the vehicle, possiblyeven creating fraudulent
documents to gain access to thecar.
The fraudulent transportcompany then told Sirha their
tow trucks could not fit in thelot to grab the SUV, so they
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asked Sirha's company for help.
Now Sam Sirha tells meeverything seemed legit.
It is why he is warning othercompanies To keep your guards up
, especially in the line of workof tow truck companies.
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Meanwhile, according to thatsearch warrant, investigators
were trying to find the personon the other end of that Zelle
account, but according to apolice report, they exhausted
all their leads and came upshort.
A small little extra tidbithere for you that Zelle account,
though, was actually tied toanother stolen vehicle in
Kentucky.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
We'll keep you updated on this story.
Here's a story about a towtruck in an accident that led to
driving into a person's housein Lebanon, Ohio.
Speaker 12 (11:03):
A woman in Warren County is alive tonight thanks
to the sound of snapping treebranches.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
Yeah.
So Tracy Schonkweiler wasnearly run over by a tow truck
while she was resting in herliving room.
Speaker 15 (11:14):
This all happening near the corner of Warren and
East Street in downtown Lebanon,a tarp now covering a gaping
hole in the house you're lookingat here on Warren Street in
Lebanon that's divided intoapartments.
Just before lunchtime today, atow truck carrying a car on its
bed.
The BED WAS IN THE LIVING ROOMOF HER APARTMENT.
The BED WAS IN THE LIVING ROOMOF HER HOUSE YOU'RE LOOKING AT
HERE ON WARREN STREET IN LEBANON.
That's DIVIDED INTO APARTMENTS.
Just BEFORE LUNCHTIME TODAY, aTOW TRUCK CARRYING A CAR ON ITS.
Speaker 16 (11:32):
BED BLASTED IN A TRACY SCHONKWEILER STREET LE the
house.
She was in the living room.
She was in the living room.
Speaker 15 (11:37):
She was in the living room.
Speaker 16 (11:39):
Sean Wilder was watching TV from a bed that's in
the living room of herapartment At least that's where
the bed was before a tow truckslammed through her living room
wall.
Speaker 15 (11:52):
It made it into the house.
He was going pretty fast.
Speaker 16 (11:54):
Sean Wilder told me crashes at the intersection of
Warren Street and East Streetare not uncommon, but the sound
on my bed and got up and startedrunning.
I was about three feet from thebed when the tow truck, with
the vehicle on the bed, camecrashing through.
If I hadn't gotten up I wouldhave been underneath the vehicle
and wouldn't be talking to youright now.
Speaker 15 (12:14):
Police say the ordeal began when the driver of
the tow truck collided with apickup truck a few feet away
from Shankweiler's apartment.
The force of that crash pushedthe tow truck into the corner of
a brick house next to whereSHOCKWILER'S APARTMENT.
The FORCE OF THAT CRASH PUSHEDTHE TOE TRUCK INTO THE CORNER OF
A BRICK HOUSE NEXT TO WHERESHOCKWILER LIVES, before COMING
TO A SCREECHING STOP IN HERLIVING SPACE.
Shook OUR WHOLE FOUNDATION,nick DAVIS, lives IN THE BRICK
HOUSE.
That WAS HIT no-transcript.
(12:52):
Well, two other tenants racedout of their apartments, along
with Tracy Schoenquiler, whojust had enough time to throw a
robe on.
All those tenants are beinghelped by the Red Cross tonight.
The investigation into thiscrash and whether or not speed
played a role is now ongoing.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Here's a story out of Los Angeles about a robbery
suspect running over apedestrian with a tow truck.
Speaker 10 (13:13):
We begin this afternoon with breaking news in
South LA.
Reports of a robbery involvinga tow truck, then a man run over
and rushed to a hospital.
Speaker 11 (13:21):
Police are, in fact still searching for the suspect.
The tow truck is actually herejust a little over a mile away
from where it was initiallystolen.
Witnesses here telling us thatthe driver behind the wheel was
driving so fast that smoke wascoming out of the tire of one of
the cars that was towed andalso the front tire of the tow
truck itself.
(13:41):
Jacqueline Reyes was walking toan appointment when she saw a
man lying in the middle of thestreet near 39th and Broadway
Just after 10 30 am.
Lapd says they first got areport of a robbery involving a
tow truck and later a call of apedestrian being struck.
Reyes says police andparamedics were rushing to help
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the man who was hit, eventuallyputting him on a stretcher and
rushing him to the hospital.
In fact, you can still see hisclothes in the middle of the
street.
Speaker 12 (14:10):
There was an injury reported as a result of the
incident.
He right now appears to be instable condition.
Speaker 11 (14:16):
LAPD Detective Christabel Yousef telling us
officers detained a person ofinterest at first but ended up
letting them go.
The driver who stole the towtruck, speeding off later,
dumping it near Normandy Avenueand Martin Luther King Jr
Boulevard before getting away,still canvassing and trying to
sort everything out.
Speaker 12 (14:35):
We don't want to put out anything prematurely.
Speaker 11 (14:37):
At this point they are collecting and reviewing
security camera footage andtalking to witnesses to catch
the person who did this, andinvestigators earlier were
swabbing this car to try to findany DNA that'll link them to
the suspect who stole this towtruck.
At this time they're justtrying to get the tow truck in a
way where it can be taken out.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
We'll keep you updated on this story, listener.
Discretion ahead over a storyof a tow truck driver's head
getting run over by a man tryingto flee a repo in Memphis,
tennessee.
Speaker 12 (15:15):
What appears to start as a routine repossession
turns violent when a Memphisrepo man gets underneath the
wheel of a car and the driverbacks over his head.
Ah F***.
Speaker 17 (15:29):
F***.
Speaker 12 (15:30):
Ah, oh, my God, I'm in my f***ing head Watch again
from the beginning as the towtruck driver grabs the chains to
secure this red Ford Focus aman runs behind him and hops
into the driver's seat, turns onthe ignition and hits reverse.
Memphis police say this unfoldedjust before 8 this morning here
(15:52):
at the University Gardens ManorApartments.
Get out of here.
Are you going to get sued boyfolded?
Just before 8 this morning hereat the University Gardens Manor
Apartments, as the victimscreams in pain, a woman can be
seen disregarding him instead,directing the driver how to
escape.
Memphis police say the man andwoman fled the scene and
(16:17):
miraculously, the victim is ableto walk away, sharing his
horrific experience on socialmedia along with these pictures
from his hospital bed showinghis injuries.
Memphis police say the victimhad abrasions on his head, a
large black mark on the front ofhis sweatshirt, complained of
arm pain and had to be shaken tobe kept conscious.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
It's hard to watch.
It's real hard to watch.
Speaker 12 (16:39):
Neighbors who didn't want to be identified, all
shaken by the video but alsoconcerned with how the whole
situation played out.
I feel sorry for him.
Speaker 8 (16:50):
I don't think his job did him poor bro.
I don't think as a person thattold cause he probably should
have seen, he should have lookedwhat was going on and decided
not to put his head in the car.
Speaker 12 (17:01):
Memphis police say a witness on scene told them they
had sold that car to the womanin the video who they say wasn't
making payments.
She told police she'd put thecar up for repossession and
contacted the repo man to pickit up.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
We're praying for this tow truck operator's
recovery and luckily we havenews that the woman and man
involved has been arrested.
Speaker 18 (17:27):
All right, after the break I'll be right back.
Speaker 19 (17:33):
Hi, I'm Perry Beatty .
Operate Flow Stop HazmatResponder Network geared toward
the towing and recovery industrywith equipment and training for
those individuals that respondto accidents that have fuel
spills, cargo mishaps, helpingthem attain that business
(17:56):
through hazmat certification putforth through OSHA.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Welcome back listeners.
You know you're listening tothe new Towing News Channel.
Now I want to remind all of ourlisteners we are available on
Spotify, itunes, pandora.
We are available on Spotify,itunes, pandora, stitcher,
iheartmedia the number one inthe country Amazon or wherever
(18:21):
you get your podcasts.
Remember to tune in every weekto Towing News Channel.
Speaker 18 (18:28):
And here's your Hazmat Hint of the Week with
Perry Beatty.
Speaker 19 (18:33):
Don't leave money on the table.
You're already on scene,Dominate the scene, Handle the
entire cleanup from not onlyvehicle recovery but any
spillage that takes place.
The government wants it cleanedup.
You must be HAZWOPER certifiedto do reportable quantities.
Now reportable quantities.
Speaker 18 (18:55):
Now reportable quantities.
Does that change state by state?
Speaker 19 (19:01):
It does.
55 US gallons is what thefederal government puts out.
However, the states can come inand go.
That's fine if you're in thusand so state, but here our
reportable quantity is 30gallons, or this state says 25
gallons, and if it's one gallonthat hits a body of water that
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supports marine life, thenthat's the reportable quantity.
Speaker 18 (19:31):
And it's just the right thing to do in that
situation especially, isn't itRight?
Thank you for that hazmat hint,and it's just the right thing
to do in that situationespecially, isn't it Right?
Speaker 9 (19:39):
Thank you for that Hazmat hint Perry let everybody
know how to reach you.
Speaker 19 (19:41):
You can contact me on my toll-free number,
877-356-9767, or email me directat perry at hazmatrncom.
That's perry P-E-R-R-Y athazmatrn, h-a-z-m-a-t-r-ncom.
Speaker 20 (20:12):
Thanks for listening to Towing News.
Now let's revisit our interviewwith Perry Beatty from the
Midwest Regional Tow Show inSeptember.
The following interviewprovides you with great
information and an opportunityto make your business more
profitable.
Speaker 17 (20:27):
Welcome back listeners.
You've been listening to theAmerican Towing Recovery
Institute podcast with WesWilburn.
Dj Harrington, our specialguest, is coming up in a minute.
Here, wes, let me turn it overto you and you introduce our
guest and get him going here.
Speaker 18 (20:42):
I certainly will.
You know, the towing industryis a great industry and you meet
a lot of acquaintances and somefriends and this gentleman here
is a true friend has proventhat to me over many decades.
When I got involved with recmaster in the early 90s,
education was not on a lot ofpeople's minds as a matter of
fact, it was ridiculed manytimes, etc.
(21:05):
This gentleman here that I'mabout to introduce did exactly
the opposite.
He was president of the northcarolina towing and recovery
profession.
Towing recovery professionalsin north carolina excuse me, I
got I'm about to introduce didexactly the opposite.
He was president of the NorthCarolina Towing and Recovery
Professionals of North CarolinaExcuse me, I got the name wrong
and at that point that was avery strong organization with
very strong leadership that dida lot of different things.
And this gentleman had an activetowing business in Charlotte,
(21:27):
north Carolina, and waspresident of the association I
don't remember it was me andTerry or myself at first came
and introduced the concept ofrec master and formalized
training to the association.
Instead of shunning us, perryBeatty did exactly the opposite.
He welcomed us with open arms,came to the class himself to see
(21:50):
what was going on, didn't sendhis employees, came to the class
himself to see what was goingon, didn't send his employees,
came to the class himself to seewhat was going on with it and
then, when he liked what he saw,he activated the association to
help support it with ascholarship program and hosted
classes himself.
Like I say, he's become afriend, we became a friend.
I stayed in his home many timesin those classes, which in the
(22:11):
early days.
The hospitality was nice andalso saving the money for a
hotel room in the beginning wasvery nice as well.
We struggled to get educationgoing in the industry.
So without further ado, I'dlike to introduce Perry Beatty
with FlowStop and HazmatResponder Network.
Perry, would you take a momentand introduce yourself to the
(22:31):
listeners?
Speaker 19 (22:32):
Okay, thank you, wes .
You pretty well summed it up onhow we got connected.
That was a big turning point inmy days of towing and I've seen
the boost that it put in thedrivers once they came back from
a training session.
(22:52):
I had the opportunity to changecareer paths.
Speaker 18 (22:59):
Well, before we I don't mean to interrupt, but
before we get there talk alittle bit about your background
.
How did you get involved in thetowing industry?
Speaker 19 (23:06):
Okay, well, I grew up working in my dad and uncle's
service station in Charlotte asa kid and I think I got bit
with a wrecker bug at about 10years of age and by the time I
was 14, I felt like I was prettyproficient on light-duty
recovery.
And when I was 16, I think threedays after I'd gotten my
(23:28):
driver's license, I had toactually go out on a wreck
response.
Call myself Car overturned downan embankment.
I'd been at it for six yearsriding shotgun.
It wasn't anything that scaredme.
I knew exactly what to do andthe bystanders and law
(23:49):
enforcement just was in awe of akid coming out and doing that.
And I built a reputation doinglight duty recovery.
Didn't know this until I'dgotten on up in years, but as my
friends retired from lawenforcement, they would make the
mention that if they ever had aserious accident and requested
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tow trucks, they were alwayshoping that it would be me to
show up.
Then it wouldn't be an issuegetting the road clear, and that
thrilled me, knowing that I waslooked at as such.
Speaker 18 (24:31):
Now your father and your uncle.
They treated the towingbusiness like a tire machine.
Right, it was just anotherpiece of the service station.
That's it.
Speaker 19 (24:39):
My dad didn't think that towing alone would afford a
business platform and Idisagreed.
I seen the opportunity and Idisagreed.
I seen the opportunity Nowgoing back.
I graduated from high school,had to register with the
Selective Service.
There was a little war gamegoing on in Southeast Asia
(25:01):
called Vietnam Right, and it'sthe only lottery that I've ever
won.
My number was three.
So when I got called up thethird time, I threw the towel in
.
I was pretty much a draftdodger and I was going to a
community college to stay out ofthe military because fighting
(25:23):
wasn't anything on my bucketlist.
But I went in, served two yearsactive duty, came back my dad
asked me to come back and helphim and I told him I said the
only thing that I want to focuson is towing.
So I had the opportunity.
Five years later I bought hisinterest in the towing part of
(25:43):
it out, moved away from theservice station and then started
building up and got in theheavy A couple years after I'd
left the service station boughta set of lift cushions and we
(26:04):
were off and running.
Speaker 18 (26:05):
Well, as the producers say, it's time to take
a break.
So we're going to take a quickbreak, hang around, and we're
going to talk more about whatPerry's doing today.
Speaker 9 (26:12):
So we're going to take a quick break, hang around
and we're going to talk moreabout what Perry's doing today
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Speaker 17 (26:47):
All right guys, welcome back.
We are live from the MidwestRegional Tow Show.
We have one of the greatestguys in the industry as our
guest, perry Beatty.
That I've known for years, butI have to tell everyone, just
like Wes and I, this is agentleman who stands for the
flag and kneels for the cross.
(27:07):
So he believes in our industryand we believe in Perry so much.
So, wes, I'll turn it back overto you and I thank you, wes,
for bringing him on to theepisode, because he's our type
of guy.
Speaker 18 (27:21):
Dragged him in, kicking and screaming kind of
like you did to me, dj.
Kind of like you did to me, hey.
Speaker 17 (27:26):
I got to tell you you were number three in the
draft.
I was number seven in the draftand I became the librarian at
Port Dix, new Jersey.
Speaker 18 (27:37):
Yeah, I registered for that, but no draft was going
on when I was of age.
Speaker 17 (27:43):
We won the lottery that year yeah.
Speaker 18 (27:47):
God bless you all for serving the country.
All right, so tell us how yougot from starting your own
towing only operation I know youbuilt it up real big how you
got from there to where you aretoday okay, um, fast forward a
decade from the 80s to thebeginning of the 90s.
Speaker 19 (28:08):
Um, the program has whopperER is put together by the
federal government.
Right, they use three differentagencies.
You've got DOT, epa and OSHA.
Okay, osha is the law.
They came together, publishedMarch 6, 1990, the HAZWOPER
(28:31):
program, and it fell in withSuperfund sites, abandoned sites
that had contaminated propertyand so forth.
Those had to be taken care ofnot to spread disease, and so
forth.
Well then, it got to where.
If there was an accident on thehighway and a substantial
(28:52):
hydrocarbon spill diesel fuel,if you will that had to be
cleaned up.
And there's another deal thatwas published in 76, referred to
as RACRA, which is ResourceConservation and Recovery Act,
and it basically means restoringthe property back to its
(29:12):
original state.
So if you have an accident thatspills 50, 100 gallons of
diesel, all that has to becleaned up and put right back in
the original state before theaccident.
Well, in doing so, thegovernment requires the
individuals that engage in thatto be HAZWOPER certified, right?
(29:34):
Okay, so we were going out toaccidents involving spills, but
yet I had the ability, theequipment and the knowledge to
do it, but I didn't have whatthey referred to as
certification, so they wouldn'tallow me to do it.
And in baseball you get to goto the plate and swing three
times and miss and you're out,right.
(29:57):
So where I'm leading into, wehad a jackknife in Charlotte on
one of the interstates.
Rush hour traffic Got there.
Trooper told me to get it outof the road, but a man in
civilian clothes told me not totouch it.
He was with the EPA and theydidn't want to do any
cross-contamination.
(30:17):
They had a company coming outthat was going to sifle off the
tank so it wouldn't leak anyfurther and clean up what it had
spilled.
Well, they had a 20-minute ETAthat turned into two and a half
hours.
Oh, wow, okay.
The media with their live-eyehelicopter flying around showing
(30:39):
my heavy on the side of theinterstate.
Naturally your fake news.
They say the wrecker can'thandle moving the truck and that
was not the case, right.
Two more of those deals happenedwithin about a month's period.
So I got heated up enough whereI called to find out what you
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had to do to do that kind ofwork get certified and the
person I spoke to in the northcarolina epa directed me to a
training facility and I took twoof my people.
We went and got certified andover a period of about five
months I put another companytogether, now Charlotte's in
(31:22):
what's called the Piedmont ofthe Carolinas.
So I thought a hundred mileradius is going to be about my
best response area.
So I'll call this PiedmontEnvironmental Response Team and
then use the acronym PERC.
So we started off.
All our literature said have aspill, make it a PERC alert, all
(31:45):
right.
So we were doing a lot of towingfor a lot of your common
carriers.
I won't name them all, but Ihad a good of telling for a lot
of your common carriers.
I won't name them all, but Ihad a good list of about a dozen
and I already had a rapportwith their safety directors for
working their accidents, went tothem, told them what our new
services were, that we wereoffering Instant client base and
(32:11):
we stayed up with keeping upwith the latest technology as
far as equipment and so forth.
I got to the point where Icould even test the soil on
scene to make sure that I'dremoved all the contaminated
dirt before I did a backfillseed and straw.
So I sell the business in 98,and I stay on with the company
(32:38):
until the end of 99, and I gohome.
Well, I kind of milled aroundwith a couple ideas and I came
up with a lightweight, chemical,hydrocarbon-resistant
inflatable that would block offthe exit ports of storm drains
that are static drain lines, andI put the name FlowStop on it.
(33:00):
That's what it does stops theflow and I received a patent in
2004 for that.
And it just enlarged.
We just came up with moreproduct offering and it just
enlarged.
We just came up with moreproduct offering.
And then, at the urging ofTor's wife asking me to show
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them how to do that, I went andgot certified as an instructor
and then put HazMat ResponderNetwork together and I traveled
around the eastern seaboarddoing HAZWOPER classes.
Speaker 18 (33:35):
Texas is not the eastern seaboard, perry Well.
Speaker 19 (33:37):
I know, but I love those guys down there.
Speaker 18 (33:40):
Shout out to Mike and Laney Phillips great people,
oh yeah, so yeah.
And so, as he says, the easternseaboard, it's more than just
that.
I don't know at least east ofthe Mississippi.
Hang around.
Eastern seaboard, it's morethan just that.
I don't.
At least east of themississippi?
Uh, hang around.
We're going to take a quickbreak and we're going to get
right into what the hazmatresponder network is and what it
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Speaker 17 (35:16):
Welcome back, guys.
We're live at the MidwestRegional Tow Show.
As you probably know from thisepisode, wes Wilburn, dj
Harrington, the Tow Doctor, andour special guest, perry Beatty.
Wonderful interview I want allof you to remember.
Share us with your friends,with fellow towers, our hotline
if you want to hear more guestslike Perry, just dial
(35:38):
706-409-5603 and let Wes and Iknow that's who you'd like to
hear on another episode andwe'll do our best, like we've
been doing here at the MidwestRegional Tow Show up here in
Mason Ohio.
Speaker 18 (35:52):
Wes, let me turn it over to you so you developed the
Flow Stop product, took on awhole line of products to help
the towing industry and then gotinvolved in the Hazmat
Responders Network, which is aneducational format which matter
to our listeners.
I've done the 40-hour course.
(36:14):
I've done the eight-hour tankupdate.
I don't know that I said thatperfect on the update but I've
done them both.
Perry, it's not onlyinformative, perry's an
interesting speaker that cankeep you interested in the
subject matter.
Let's face it that subjectmatter can be slightly dry at
times and Perry does a good jobof keeping it interesting and
keeping it moving and sharingwith you information that
(36:36):
actually relates to yourday-to-day operations, more than
just going by the book andspouting out a bunch of
technical information.
That's one of the things I likeabout his instructional style.
So, perry, go ahead where weleft off and keep moving forward
with how you developed thisthing.
Speaker 19 (36:55):
Okay With HazMat Responder Network.
No one was specificallyassisting the towing market on
doing spill response, on doingspill response, and it was a big
(37:16):
plus if a company had theability to do both the cleanup
and the recovery of the vehicle.
And the authorities love youknow as well as I do one call
gets it all covered so theydon't have two different
entities in the way of eachother getting a job done.
So a lot of Hazmat ResponderNetwork is a lot of classroom
(37:40):
for all your regulations andrules that are set up through
those three agencies.
I mentioned at the beginning ofthe podcast beginning of the
podcast However, a lot of what Iexperienced actually in the
(38:00):
field doing the work I bring tothe table, offering this in the
same training.
Well, we get a lot of tankeroverturns In doing so.
There's three main cargo tanksthat haul Class III, which are
your hydrocarbon flammablefluids, and then your Class VI
chemicals poisons, and yourClass VIII, which are your
(38:21):
corrosives.
They're all hauled in threedifferent type of cargo tank
trailers.
So I took it upon myself tobuild these with all the
apparatus and importance thatyou'll find on these, and show
how to safely ground and bondand transfer those products.
Speaker 18 (38:40):
Yeah, so just to clarify with our listeners, he
built demos that are just likethe real tank, but it's a
tabletop version where you canroll it into a garage bay and
one of them, actually, he putsan aluminum slide in there and
you get the sensation or theexperience of drilling the side
(39:01):
of a tanker for a pump-off.
I did it.
There's pictures of me onFacebook doing it at the class,
but these are desktop minitankers that can be rolled into
a classroom and trained andthey're an excellent training
tool.
Excellent training tool.
Speaker 19 (39:17):
The one that I have built that simulates a fuel
hauler.
We can rotate 90 degrees tosimulate an overturn.
And the beauty of it.
Everything on it is designed tofail.
Okay, and with that being said,we have the tools and the
equipment to stop the leaks sowe can prepare it for offload.
(39:39):
And then, once we offload it,then we stand it upright again
and we can show everybody howyou approach that, to stop leaks
and so forth, to get itprepared to transfer the load
and then safely upright.
Speaker 18 (39:56):
And the same with chemical and corrosive haulers
too and you hold these classesall over the I'm going to say
east of the mississippi is moreaccurate, not trying to correct
you, but yeah, um, if somebodywants to do a class on their own
or attend a class, how do theyget in touch with you?
Speaker 19 (40:15):
Well, if they contact me, Hazmat Responder,
network Flow Stop.
Both share the same toll-freenumber.
They call that any time.
I'm like the old-school towtruck driver I'll answer the
phone any time you do the same.
Speaker 18 (40:31):
Yeah, what is that toll-free number?
Speaker 19 (40:32):
It's 877-356-9767.
That's correct.
Speaker 18 (40:42):
Good, we have you checking.
What about a website?
Speaker 19 (40:44):
Website is hazmatrn for Responder Network
hazmatrncom.
Speaker 18 (40:56):
So, Perry, why should a towing company consider
getting involved in this andnot just letting some other
entity do this?
I mean, are they leaving moneyon the ground?
Speaker 19 (41:06):
Well, absolutely.
This would broaden out theirscope of performance and
services offered, and it's notjust limited to traffic
accidents.
Once we got established andknown with the authorities,
companies started calling us forlike a loading dock, mishap
(41:31):
spills on private property,construction, so forth, and it
was a good revenue producer, soit also assisted in getting the
road opened up.
Like I mentioned earlier, theauthorities really appreciated
that, so it opened a lot moredoors and it even created more
(41:52):
business for the towing side ofthings, because we had that
ability to do it all.
Speaker 18 (41:58):
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Different towing companies Iknow around the country have
done that.
That's one of the things theytalk about and forward-thinking
companies work with other towingcompanies that develop their
hazmat company work with othertowing companies that develop
their hazmat company work withother towing companies.
I know John Redmond in Virginiais one that I know personally
that developed a cleanup companyand works with other towing
(42:20):
companies.
It's simply business and it'ssimple business decisions.
So when somebody comes andtakes their 40-hour course, how
long does that certificationlast for?
Is it a certification orqualification?
Speaker 19 (42:37):
No, it's a certification, okay, okay, and
it's good for 12 months.
At the conclusion of the 12months following the training,
then OSHA requires thetechnician to have eight hours
annual refresher so they don'thave to go through the 40-hour
(42:57):
course again.
Just on a yearly basis, aneight-hour refresher right and
then I offer that tank class asa annual refresher it's a
one-day class and also have arefresher for incident commander
.
On-scene supervisor.
Speaker 18 (43:13):
Okay.
Speaker 19 (43:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 18 (43:15):
And not only towing operators, but fire personnel
and whatnot.
Take this 40-hour course withyou.
Speaker 19 (43:22):
Sometimes the fire service has sent reps and
firefighters to it, but bear inmind they don't do cleanup and
disposal.
So there's three levels ofhazmat.
You've got your awareness.
That's only eight hours and theonly thing that you're able to
(43:44):
do is witness and respond as faras reporting to authorities.
Then you have operation, whichis a 24-hour course and it
allows you to remotely stop thespill from spreading.
But then you have technician,which allows you to go in, stop
(44:05):
it at the source of the leak,clean it up and dispose of it
according to the EPA OSHAguidelines.
Speaker 18 (44:14):
So one of the things you bring to the table is to
help folks keep up with allthese different what they can do
, what they can't do, etc.
And can back it up withvalidation.
Exactly, that's huge, becausethat's a whole jungle in itself,
isn't it?
Speaker 19 (44:29):
and when we conclude the 40-hour class, uh, I give a
list of vendors that have uhproducts and services that'll
help them.
It's not locked in on that, butit gives them a starting point
where to go for supplies and uhlike insurance, for that matter
(44:50):
to cover it so.
Speaker 18 (44:51):
So it's a full service organization,
organization helping the towingoperator.
Completely go in that direction.
I try to leave no rock unturned.
God bless you.
You've always been verythorough like that.
Anything you'd like to sharewith us in closing?
Speaker 19 (45:08):
I'm just pleased to see people take on elevating
their service level up Right andI've seen a lot of success in
the past eight years.
Speaker 18 (45:22):
Yeah, and I've seen a lot of it as well.
You've helped a lot oforganizations grow their
business and be able to takecare of their families better
and that's huge and controltheir own destiny a little bit
too.
Everybody knows the value ofthat.
Well, perry, I can't thank youenough for taking time on a busy
morning.
The show is open.
There's people all over thefloor and I got Perry away from
(45:43):
his booth, so we're going tokick him out of here.
We're going to thank him andkick him out of here and let him
go back to his booth to answerquestions.
It looks like he's got to lineup from here.
So, perry, thank you so muchfor taking your time on this
busy morning.
Speaker 17 (45:54):
Wes thanks for having me, Perry.
Thank you very much.
You guys have all beenlistening to the American Tone
Recovery Institute podcast WesWilburn and DJ Harry.
Speaker 18 (46:05):
I want to thank all our listeners for listening,
click, like and enjoy.
Be safe out there there and Godbless.
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