Avatar Nation: Season 1 — Wrap Up - Avatar Nation

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Pauline (00:02):
Welcome to Avatar Nation, a podcast, all about the
Netflix live adaptation ofAvatar: the Last Airbender.
Whether you're a longtime fanlike us, or you're new to the
Avatarverse, join us as we diveinto each episode and analyze
the retelling of TV's greatestadventure.

(00:41):
Hello guys, I'm your host,Pauline,

Wes (00:44):
and I'm Wes, and I gotta say, I kind of missed doing
this.
That week off, I missed doingthe podcast, so it's nice to be
back.

Pauline (00:53):
As usual, life happens, but yeah, it feels like it's
been a while since we've donethis.
Yeah,

Wes (00:58):
it has.

Pauline (00:59):
And we're really getting into a busy time of year
so, um, we will continue doingour best to get these episodes
out.
But yeah, we'll see what happensmoving forward.

Wes (01:09):
Alright, so what are we doing today?

Pauline (01:11):
Okay, so today is our season one wrap up.
Before we get into all of that,I didn't know, Wes, did you see
the update on the new animatedAvatar movie that's coming out?

Wes (01:25):
No, but I've heard from you that they were doing one.

Pauline (01:29):
Of course, many Avatar fans, they're plugged into All
the new stuff coming from AvatarStudios, which is owned by the
original creators.
But we've known for a while thatwe have a few Avatar animated
movies coming out.
But I think this is the firsttime we actually have a release
window for the first one comingup.
Originally they said it wasgoing to come out fall of next

(01:51):
year, but I think now it's beenpushed back to 2026.
But it is a movie that is gonnabe about the adult gang the
adult team Avatar and followingmaybe what happens between the
original series and The Legendof Korra.

Wes (02:08):
Korra.
Well, that'll be interesting.

Pauline (02:10):
I know I think a lot of us want to see what the gang
would have been up to as adults,now that we're all adults too.
But, what has been confirmed sofar, at least from several news
sites, is that Aang is gonna bevoiced by Eric Nam, and I think
he is or was a K pop star, andthen Dave Bautista is gonna be

(02:30):
some antagonist that we don'tknow, which you know him! I
think, you've seen more of DaveBautista's stuff than I have.

Wes (02:37):
Yeah, I watch his movies, not his wrestling, but I love
his

Pauline (02:41):
he a wrestler?
Yeah.
I didn't know that, or I forgotthat.
See, shows how much I know.

Wes (02:48):
I think I uh, controversial.
I think I like him better thanThe Rock.

Pauline (02:52):
Yeah, is he?
He's in Marvel, isn't he?

Wes (02:55):
Yeah.

Pauline (02:55):
That's kind of cool that there continues to be
Filipino representation inAvatar.
I don't know if this isconfirmed, I've seen it floating
out there, but Dante Basco isallegedly going to return as
Zuko's voice actor, which makessense, because, I mean

Wes (03:11):
Yeah, he is 50 or 60, like

Pauline (03:14):
like that, but his voice hasn't really changed.
But I think he's the onlyoriginal voice actor that is
returning.

Wes (03:21):
That's cool.
I like Dante.

Pauline (03:23):
I do like Dante.
I wish some of the others wouldcome back because there are a
couple that are still, they'revoice actors but I can
understand that they maybe wantto keep the Asian
representation, but I'm Maybe,but I don't think they want I'm
gonna guess that they don't wantto cast any non Asians, and I

(03:45):
know that who's the one thatvoices Korra the one who voices
Korra I think has said beforethat she probably wouldn't come
back to voice her character assomebody who's white, so I
wouldn't be surprised if thatplays a big factor in whether or
not the original voice actorswould have even been asked to
come back or if they would havedeclined,

Wes (04:05):
I'm confused.

Pauline (04:07):
the characters in Avatar The Last Airbender are
Asian, I think that those whoare not Asian would probably be
hesitant to come back as nonAsian people voicing these
characters.
I think a lot of us fans,though, wouldn't have a big
problem with it because they'vebeen such a core part of Avatar
The Last Airbender.

(04:28):
So I don't know, it's a touchysubject.

Wes (04:30):
I don't see a problem with it, but to each their own.

Pauline (04:33):
Yep.
Okay so, with this episode thatwe're doing today here's what
we're going to discuss.
What I decided to do is we'regoing to combine a few episode
topics that I had and justcombine it into this one because
I didn't want some of ourepisodes to get too repetitive,
so I figured that we would goover our, favorite and least
favorite moments, plus someother, standout moments we'll

(04:56):
talk about things that we'relooking forward to in the next
seasons without giving plotspoilers though.
We'll save more of the spoilerystuff for another episode.
And then we have more commentsto read from other fans
regarding this season ingeneral.

Wes (05:11):
Great well.

Pauline (05:12):
Yeah.

Wes (05:13):
you ready to talk about season one?

Pauline (05:15):
Before we do just a reminder to everybody listening
to follow and subscribe to us.
And that way, you get notifiedon when we come out with new
episodes.
Okay.
Now we're ready.

Wes (05:26):
Let's do this.
Dive in.
Let's just start off by divingright into our cabbage ratings.
Pauline, what are CabbageRatings?

Pauline (05:38):
Oh yes, I guess since it's been, well it's been like a
week.
Or, Since some people may belistening to this episode as
their very first episode withus, our Cabbage Ratings, very
much like Rotten Tomato ratingsor IGN ratings, they're just how
Wes and I rate each episode, butwe're going to rate the season

(06:00):
as a whole and we do it incabbages.

Wes (06:04):
being bad and ten being great.

Pauline (06:06):
Yeah, the best.
So I'll go ahead and give mycabbage rating.
So I'm giving the whole season a7.

Wes (06:16):
Oh, okay.

Pauline (06:17):
feel like that's a nice healthy rating.
I think it definitely had itsups and downs.
The parts that I thought werereally good, I really, really
enjoyed, and then the parts thatI feel like suffered a little
bit, I mean, I had really strongopinions about all of those.
But overall, I enjoyed it, itwas much better than the movie

(06:37):
that doesn't exist, and I thinkwe're headed in the right
direction.
Of course, just because we'refans doesn't mean that we don't
have criticism of the series.
What about you?
What is your cabbage rating?

Wes (06:49):
Okay, so my cabbage rating is a 7.
5.
Ooh,

Pauline (06:54):
a 7.
5.
And why did you give it a 7.
5?

Wes (06:58):
Well, I have to say it didn't, it had its, it was a
rollercoaster ride.
It was up and down

Pauline (07:06):
All around.

Wes (07:08):
was so many things I was disappointed with, but that's
just nitpicking.
I think overall, this isprobably, and this is probably
gonna get a lot of negativefeedback, but overall, I think
this is probably one of the bestlive action shows I've watched.

Pauline (07:23):
Oh, you like adapting

Wes (07:24):
up there.
Yes.
Yes.
And it's up there, top five

Pauline (07:30):
Yeah.

Wes (07:30):
the best live action shows that I've watched.

Pauline (07:33):
That's an interesting take.
I do want to take a look at whatour Cabbage Rating is based on
what the actual average wouldbe, because I know we chose a
rating based on our feelings.
So you went back and looked at

Wes (07:45):
ou r past cabbage ratings.

Pauline (07:46):
After I decided what I was giving this season, I wanted
to see if it was going to lineup with Our other cabbage
ratings and what the

Wes (07:55):
Oh, this is a twist.
You should have told me about

Pauline (07:57):
have told me about this.
So let's see if we contradictourselves.
Okay, so for me, I said that Igave it a 7.
So if

Wes (08:05):
Overall.

Pauline (08:06):
Yes, for the whole season.
So if we take my average cabbagerating, it's a 7.
4.
So not bad.
Not far off.
So for yours, so you said yougave it a 7.5, I took the
average of all your cabbageratings from previous episodes,
and yours is at a 7.1.
the actual, We're both close.
We're both close.

(08:26):
The actual average yours isjust, just a hair lower than
mine.
But we're right there in thatseven range, so I think that
makes sense.
Our average.
Between the two of us is 7.
3 for all you math nerds outthere.
So I think that tracks.
What do you think?

Wes (08:42):
do you think?
Yeah, I promise I didn't.
I think I was

Pauline (08:47):
Yeah, I promise I didn't.
I gave my rating first and thenlooked back to see if it

Wes (08:52):
was! I know

Pauline (08:53):
up.
I wasn't! I wasn't! Yeah, sopeople could go back and be
like, wait a second, this iswhat you said before.
All

Wes (09:00):
Alright, Paul.
Do you want to talk about theseries strengths and weaknesses?

Pauline (09:04):
Okay strengths and weaknesses.
I feel like, because we want totalk about the positive things,
but then, of course, there arethings to look at critically as
well.
I'll start by giving what Ithink the series strengths are
and what I thought Netflix didreally well.

Wes (09:20):
you know, The things that I thought Netflix did really, Um,

Pauline (09:33):
Um, hold on.
I have receipts.

Wes (09:38):
Oh, it's the second text.

Pauline (09:40):
Mm

Wes (09:40):
Okay, I don't, I don't, uh

Pauline (09:42):
Read all my texts?
Like how you still, you're theone that segwayed into, alright
let's talk about our Strengthsand Weaknesses.
Wait a

Wes (09:49):
into the

Pauline (09:51):
I didn't know we had to do this.
Okay, so I'll go first so thenyou have time to think.
I put for Strengths, it would bethe visuals and the fight
choreography for sure.
I think we can all agree.
The visuals were really great.
The CGI, just all of the visualeffects.
It was very pleasing to watch.

(10:12):
And I think in some of theepisodes where I did rate it
highly, I think the visuals iswhat really got it up there.
And then same with the fightchoreography.
It just made it entertaining.
I loved watching all of thefight scenes.
Both bending and non bendingfight scenes.
Those were really Some of themost entertaining parts for me.

(10:32):
And then as for weakness, I'vealready mentioned this several
times in previous episodes ofours, but it would be all of the
exposition.
The exposition dumping and thensome of the acting as well.
There were many moments wherethe acting was great, but then
there were many moments toowhere the acting was just fell a

(10:54):
little bit flat or poor.
Seemed a little bit

Wes (10:58):
a little bit flat, or seemed a little bit forced.
Like acting wise, but I thinkthey got better as this, as the
season went on.

Pauline (11:11):
Overall, I think I agree with that.
And then as far as theexposition goes, I know the
avatar has to have someexposition.
There's a lot of world building.
There's a lot of fantasticalideas that.
viewers and especially firsttime viewers have to get
familiar with, but I think itreally was just so much whenever
the characters were juststanding there talking to each

(11:33):
other.
And I forgot I had wanted tomention this we were talking
about I think the last twoepisodes of this season, if you
take a look at the scenes whereyou have characters talk,
there's a lot of dialogue,they're explaining things to
each other.
Sometimes a lot of those shotswere set up a little bit too
simplistically?
Simplistically?

(11:53):
Simple?
Simply?
There is nothing really creativeabout the shots.
It's like those moments of like,what do I do with my hands?
And I feel like Katara had a lotof those moments too, but that's
where the show sometimes got alittle bit boring, it was just
really two people standingthere, and they're really just
exposition dumping.

Wes (12:14):
Yeah, which is, which is okay.
They're going to get that out ofthe way.
I think so too, I think

Pauline (12:25):
I think so too.
I think so too.
And I just want them to rememberthat, even with exposition, at
least there are other thingsthey could do with the shots
that can make it a little bitmore entertaining to watch.
The characters don't necessarilyhave to be just standing there
looking at each other.
The camera angles could be alittle bit different, but if you
watch, especially in theepisode, The North, there was

(12:47):
just a lot of two charactersstanding face to face, looking
at each other.

Wes (12:51):
Sense.
Yeah, I think that's a littlenitpicky, but I do agree.
But think, they're going to getpast that.

Pauline (12:58):
Yeah, because then they have less to explain in season
two.
Okay.
So what about you?
What, now that you've had timeto think what strengths do you
think the series

Wes (13:07):
now that you've had time to think strengths do you think
series has?

Pauline (13:23):
The effects

Wes (13:24):
yeah, totally past my expectations.
I don't know what you thinkabout that, but, and their
weakness I would have to saypacing.
It's too much.
Think that was looking for theword, but you already said it,
so

Pauline (13:43):
yeah,

Wes (13:44):
I agree with you.
Thank you, babe.
I'll piggyback off

Pauline (13:48):
I will say I also remember from past podcast
episodes, you mentioned severaltimes that they were going too
fast with some of the storyline.

Wes (13:59):
They could slow way down, but I understand that, there's a
time constraint.
And they only wanted to do eightepisodes.
But yes, I wish they would haveslowed way down, but even season
one of the cartoon, that wasslow and Kevin's not gonna like
this, but filled with a lot offillers.
And I think I have really highhopes for season two and

Pauline (14:25):
Yeah.
Okay.
So those are our strengths andweaknesses.
So I want to talk about severalstandout moments.
And we can just start with ourtop three favorite moments.
Just top three moments that werethe best for us.
They were our favorite, scenesin the show.
How do you want to do it?
Do you want me to say my three,and then you say your three?
Should we go back and forth.

Wes (14:45):
I'll go first.

Pauline (14:46):
Okay, what would be number three for you?
Your third favorite moment?

Wes (14:51):
It would probably be Kyoshi taking over Aang, and then just
whoopin ass.

Pauline (14:58):
That was cool.
That was so early on.
It felt like a

Wes (15:01):
Felt like a lifetime ago.
I know.

Pauline (15:05):
I know.
Oh, and for anybody thatlistened to the previous episode
I know we talked about rewatching the whole season back
to back.
Life just did not let us dothat.

Wes (15:16):
do that.
Epic fail.

Pauline (15:18):
We just didn't have time and we had other shows to
catch up on, too.
So, we did not go back and rewatch the whole season,

Wes (15:24):
yeah, Stranger Things kinda took up our time.

Pauline (15:26):
Oh my gosh, now everybody's gonna know that
we've been so behind on

Wes (15:29):
on Stranger Things.

Pauline (15:30):
Yes, okay, ladies and gentlemen, we just now caught up
on Stranger Things.

Wes (15:35):
Pauline, let's get back on the tracks here.
This

Pauline (15:38):
so number three was the Kyoshi takeover.
three?
Okay, so my number three was theAir Nomad genocide, which, now
saying it out loud sounds reallybad, that it was

Wes (15:50):
sounds really bad.

Pauline (15:52):
The way that they did it I'm just so glad that they
put it in there.
I mean it, it was a sad moment.
It was terrible, but I think itmade for good TV.
So I'm glad that they got

Wes (16:01):
got that in there.

Pauline (16:03):
Yeah, okay, so that was number three.
What was your moment.
two.

Wes (16:09):
basically all of episode six.

Pauline (16:12):
Which was?

Wes (16:14):
Zuko's

Pauline (16:16):
Oh the masks episode?
Was that

Wes (16:21):
Was that six?
Hold on.
Pauline's pulling some thingsup.

Pauline (16:25):
Click, Click, click, click, click, click, No, episode
six was spirited away.
Wait no, no, no! Yeah.
No, you're right.
Episode six was masks.
Yes.

Wes (16:33):
yeah.
Say that again, Pauline, so theyall

Pauline (16:35):
were right.
I get confused with our episodenumbers because our podcast
episode numbers are always oneahead.

Wes (16:42):
Because we

Pauline (16:43):
yeah, we did a pre premiere episode, so yeah.
The mental gymnastics I've hadto do every time,

Wes (16:50):
to do every time.
I feel that's cheating.
Top of the

Pauline (17:00):
I feel like that's cheating.

Wes (17:02):
give it

Pauline (17:05):
is the whole episode.
Okay, I'll give it to youbecause I agree.
That was amazing.

Wes (17:10):
my

Pauline (17:11):
So my number two was the Leaves from the Vine moment.
Iroh's flashback

Wes (17:16):
No.
Leaves the Vine, I

Pauline (17:20):
No, Leaves from the Vine, I think, was the episode
Into the Dark.
Yeah, Secret Tunnel episode.
Because, remember we talkedabout how two iconic songs were
put into one

Wes (17:32):
iconic songs were put into one episode?

Pauline (17:36):
didn't give it a low rating.

Wes (17:38):
we can look at

Pauline (17:40):
Since we already have it pulled up.
We both gave it an 8.5

Wes (17:44):
Oh, darn.

Pauline (17:46):
And mine was actually going to be lower if it wasn't
for leaves from the vine.
And since I had rewatched thatepisode two and a half times, I
cried each time, so I had tomake my top three moments, for
sure.
Okay, so what was number one foryou?

Wes (18:05):
Number one, which I've already said, because you forced
me into strength and weaknesses.
But it would just, this is alsocheating, but it's all the CGI
bending.
I think all the moments wherethey're bending, I mean, there
was, there was one that I'mgoing to talk about later.

(18:29):
But.

Pauline (18:29):
want to see if that's what I'm thinking of.
But,

Wes (18:31):
Overall it was fantastic.
So good.
What's your number one?

Pauline (18:36):
My number one, this also sounds terrible saying, but
just hear me out.
It was from the finale, it wasWater Tribe vs.
Fire Nation.
Specifically the scene where,the Fire Nation closes in and
there is this shot where,

Wes (18:50):
Oh, I know what you're talking about.

Pauline (18:51):
you're talking about.
Yes, Yes,

Wes (18:52):
boat drops?

Pauline (18:53):
Yes! There is this shot where one of the Water Tribe
people, they look over andthere's fire being shot at the
wall, the wall collapses, yousee these people fall into the
water, the person sees thepeople fall into the water, and
in that same shot, the personwatching runs to the other side
of the wall, sees the boatcoming in and then his spot gets

(19:16):
hit with with fire and then hefalls and that was all done in
one shot.
It was very beautiful theperspective of, the camera and
the camera movement was amazing,and all of that leading into the
fight with The non benders, Han,Chief Arnok, all of them.
I already mentioned this in thelast episode.
Yes, their last stand holdingoff the Fire Nation soldiers

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after the moon had died.
It was just, the whole scene wasjust top for

Wes (19:46):
for me.
That's a good number one.

Pauline (19:48):
Yes, amazing.
Great job.
Good job to the whole crew.

Wes (19:51):
the whole crew.
Well, awesome.
So those were moments.
What about our worst moments

Pauline (19:58):
Maybe we should have started with our worst moments
so we could have followed itwith something positive.
But, um, I'll start first

Wes (20:06):
So,

Pauline (20:07):
So number three, for me, my number three worst
moment, or I guess moments,really were Bumi's tests,
because I felt like they missedthe mark with them.
And we already talked about itbefore, but they didn't make
much sense, at least not as muchsense as the cartoon version,

(20:27):
and yeah, they just missed themark.
So that

Wes (20:31):
Yeah, We had our whole rant on My number three is Iroh's
bending when Zhao kills the moonspirit.
He's like, whatever you do tothat spirit, I'll unleash on you
tenfold, and it really wasn'ttenfold.

Pauline (20:48):
He tried.
He started in on it.
We already talked about this.

Wes (20:52):
about this.
He is, he

Pauline (20:56):
Okay.

Wes (20:57):
Number two

Pauline (20:58):
Number two for me was Roku and Aang's conversation.
It was very cheesy and it leftme not feeling that impressed by
Roku.

Wes (21:08):
Yeah, he was a little

Pauline (21:11):
Yeah, he was a little bit too cheesy for me.
I hope we see way more of him.
I'm sure we will.
So we'll see how they takeRoku's character moving

Wes (21:21):
character moving forward.
Oh no! Give him a to

Pauline (21:33):
but I think because they didn't show very much of
Roku, I think he's one of thosecharacters that if they were to
recast him, I don't think wewould most people probably
wouldn't notice unless they, hadrewatched it many times, so that
was number two for me.
What about you?

Wes (21:48):
had rewatched it many times.
So, Was number two me.
What about you?
over his head and it was like alittle flash and you're like oh

(22:08):
that was

Pauline (22:09):
Well, what was she supposed to do?
Hit her

Wes (22:12):
no you don't have to hit him but there could have been a
bigger explosion like a biggerlightning bolt i don't know

Pauline (22:18):
I'm sure she

Wes (22:18):
it was

Pauline (22:19):
it her all.

Wes (22:20):
it was like oh here it comes and

Pauline (22:23):
It was just a little taste.
Like

Wes (22:24):
a little

Pauline (22:25):
Was It's

Wes (22:26):
it was like a bottle rocket, you know, like it was

Pauline (22:28):
rocket,

Wes (22:28):
it's gonna be so big and then it's like, bop,

Pauline (22:32):
I'm, I don't like bottle rockets.
I don't like any fireworks.
And I also don't like lightningand

Wes (22:37):
So you don't agree?

Pauline (22:38):
I can appreciate what you're saying.
That's not one that crossed mymind at all.

Wes (22:45):
I'm Unique.

Pauline (22:47):
you are unique and weird.
No, I'm just kidding.

Wes (22:50):
right, what's your number one most disappointing moment?
Oh, sorry.
but just.
which least favorite

Pauline (22:57):
Yeah worst, number one worst moment for me was the
Sokka shirtless scene.
And it's not because of Sokkahimself, it was just the way
they put that in there with Sukiclearly thirsting after him,
after having just met him, wasvery cringe and, it felt forced.

(23:17):
Maybe saved that kind of momentfor season two but it's like
that was the second episode andwe're just getting to know these
kids and I think, because in mymind, it's like, okay, these are
kids.
So the whole thing just feltvery unnatural to me and gag.

Wes (23:34):
I thought it was okay, they're teenagers,

Pauline (23:36):
teenagers.
Yeah, but it's like, it couldhave been done better, I guess,
but it felt so out of place.
That's just

Wes (23:44):
shirtless.
That

Pauline (23:46):
was number one.

Wes (23:47):
Sorry, Sokka.

Pauline (23:48):
Nothing against Sokka! It's more about the people who
decided to put it in there,like.

Wes (23:55):
okay, you ready for

Pauline (23:56):
This is what we're gonna spend our time on?
Is Suki eyeballing his abs?
Or did he have abs?
I can't remember.
Anyways.

Wes (24:06):
One?
My number one is Katara's fightwith Master Pakku.

Pauline (24:13):
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, I can see that.

Wes (24:17):
Horrible.
Like

Pauline (24:18):
The whole thing?

Wes (24:19):
I didn't like any of it.
I thought it could have been waybetter.
Katara's bending was like whenyou see when your show's
lagging, it looked like she waslagging the whole time.

Pauline (24:32):
Yeah.
Out of all of the fight scenes,I would say that was probably
the weakest for So that was toobad.
Okay, so those were our topthree, our bottom three.
So let's shift to our funniestmoments.
Move on to something a littlebit more positive.
What would you say is thefunniest moment for you?

Wes (24:51):
positive.
What would you say is thefunniest moment for you?
I was like, oh my gosh, that issuper hilarious and I couldn't
stop laughing, which I don'tthink it wasn't supposed to be
funny.
We know it wasn't supposed to bebut it was when Katara's would

(25:14):
jet, right?
And they're spying on the spy,right?
The Fire Nation spy.
That is wearing red.
The only one wearing red is thespy.

Pauline (25:28):
So funny

Wes (25:28):
was, it was so good.
I know they weren't trying to befunny, but that was funny.

Pauline (25:34):
It was funny, but not for the

Wes (25:37):
reasons.
my actual like, funny moment wasuh, when Aang, Ask Katara to not
hurt Zuko, but Zuko thought hewas talking to,

Pauline (25:47):
yes.
Yeah, he burned Zuko.
he said, I wasn't talking aboutyou, or something like that, or
I wasn't talking to you.
pretty funny.
That's right, okay.
Okay.
That probably would have alsobeen mine.

Wes (26:02):
what's, well, what's

Pauline (26:03):
But I had, I had to put, for me, it was my cabbages!
It's only super funny to thosethat have watched the original
series, but the way that theyexecuted the running gag of the
cabbage merchant, I think wasgreat.
And,

Wes (26:18):
and we know there's more to come.

Pauline (26:20):
I hope so.
I don't know.
I don't think we'll see thecabbage guy again.
At least not like that.
I hope I'm wrong.
But the way he in a very cheesyway, looked up to the sky and
said, my cabbages! Was so funny.
It was perfect.
And one of the only times that Ifeel like that the cheese really
worked there.
Okay, now.

Wes (26:39):
So we've done our funniest moment.

Pauline (26:42):
Okay,

Wes (26:43):
Okay, what's your saddest moment?

Pauline (26:45):
moment?
I don't

Wes (26:48):
You go, I don't know yours.

Pauline (26:50):
It, well, I already talked about it.
It was Iroh's flashback duringthe Leaves from the Vine
episode.

Wes (26:56):
yeah, Okay.
Okay.
was super sad.

Pauline (26:59):
that was very sad.
And, I, between the acting andthe music, how could you not
cry?
I do wonder would I have criedif Leaves from the Vine wasn't
playing?
Because nostalgia is tied intothat as well, and for those of
us who knew Iroh's backstoryalready, it you just hear the
song and nothing else has to besaid, but then that with the

(27:20):
acting and, oh my gosh, it wasso

Wes (27:23):
good.
I have

Pauline (27:25):
try

Wes (27:25):
Yeah, okay, so this is something that the live action
did that the cartoon didn't do.
and that was all of Aang'speople being wiped out.
And they went through thatwhole, like you got to see them
all getting wiped

Pauline (27:42):
out.
And that was one of my topmoments,

Wes (27:44):
but was that not the saddest moment?
you got to see

Pauline (27:48):
I didn't cry, though.
No, but it was a sad the, thewhole, whole heart, pauling, the
whole storyline of

Wes (27:55):
cried over a song, but the extermination of a whole bending
race being wiped

Pauline (28:02):
out Okay.
Gyatso did make me tear up manytimes.
But the whole thing with Irohwas, he was the only one that
made me have visible tearsrunning down my face, but I
agree, I think uh, those two,those

Wes (28:15):
I win! I win!

Pauline (28:16):
are very sad.
They are, they can both beequally sad, okay?
All right, so let's move on andgive our overall favorite
bending moment.
I feel like this is an awardsshow, now that that I'm looking
at each topic here.
It's like awards being given.

Wes (28:32):
topic

Pauline (28:33):
So let's hear it for our favorite bending moment.
You go first this

Wes (28:37):
hear it for our favorite bending moment.
Uh, You go first.

Pauline (28:46):
Oh, yeah.

Wes (28:47):
Fire against water.

Pauline (28:49):
I do like

Wes (28:50):
And it was epic.
It was fantastic.
And the whole scene was goodbecause they went between them
and also your scene, which was,the Fire Nation entering.

Pauline (29:02):
Oh, yeah,

Wes (29:03):
So that was all going on at the same time, but

Pauline (29:05):
the same time.
So all Waterbender versus FireNation.

Wes (29:09):
And Katara came out swinging.
did.
She had'em,

Pauline (29:12):
The waterbending was a lot better.
Like that fight choreography wasso much better.
And yeah I,

Wes (29:18):
messed to katara.

Pauline (29:19):
well, and then you see the two opposing colors too.
So that was very cool.

Wes (29:24):
What was your favorite bending

Pauline (29:28):
moment?
Mine was all the firebendingduring the Agni Kai between Ozai
and Zuko.
Part of it is probably alsobecause of the emotion behind
that fight but just seeing thetwo of them, seeing Daniel Dae
Kim and then Dallas Liu,fighting each other was amazing.

Wes (29:44):
I assume that was probably one of the most controversial,
scenes between fans because Zukowould never have fought back
against his But I like I likewhat they did.

Pauline (29:57):
most

Wes (29:57):
I like what they did, though.

Pauline (29:59):
Well then let's talk

Wes (29:59):
I like that the live action showed us that.
But in the cartoon, Zuko wouldhave never fought back against
his

Pauline (30:07):
That was one where I was on the fence on.
I know that you had really likedit, for me, I li I liked how
they did it, but then it makesme wonder what kind of impact
that's going to have on thestoryline moving forward, and
maybe it won't at all, maybeit's just a different way of
getting to the same result,

Wes (30:25):
getting to the same result.
Well, I want them to keep

Pauline (30:29):
Well, I want them to keep

Wes (30:31):
but the the trains the track, but there can be
different routes.

Pauline (30:36):
right, They don't have to remake everything exactly the
way the cartoon was.

Wes (30:42):
We're gonna have that conversation

Pauline (30:43):
Oh yeah, a lot with each following season as well.
But.
I think I've come to thedecision that I'm okay with how
they did the fight.
The bending was great.
It conveyed the same sentiment,about the complications between
Zuko and his dad.
So we'll see.

(31:03):
I may be, depending on whathappens in seasons two and
three, I may go back and belike, oh yeah, see, they
shouldn't have changed that, butwe'll see.
But yeah, I love that fight.
I will say though, although itwas my favorite bending moment,
it wasn't my favorite fight.
For me, my favorite fight wasthe fight between Zuko and Aang
and Omashu, because I thought itwas like really fun.

(31:25):
So there wasn't as much bendingbecause Zuko couldn't bend.
Well, yeah, Zuko couldn't bendbecause he didn't want to reveal
that is a firebender.
So they had to get real creativeon how to have the two fight.
And I thought that was cool.
The scarves and the things thatthey tossed around, the way that
they chased each other throughthe market was cool.

Wes (31:44):
I don't want to get into that.
You

Pauline (31:46):
You didn't like it?

Wes (31:47):
it?
was, mm, it was mm, mm.
It

Pauline (31:51):
good.
Did you just

Wes (31:54):
you just mooed?
I was trying to do,

Pauline (31:56):
a Ma?

Wes (31:59):
but yeah, I mooed.
Rawr.
It was moo.
what was your

Pauline (32:03):
your

Wes (32:03):
part?

Pauline (32:03):
fight then?
Was that, I know I didn't putthis down, but was it the Zuko
and Katara fight?

Wes (32:07):
Yeah, that, that scene was amazing, but yeah, I already, I
just talked

Pauline (32:14):
about it.
Well, I had a favorite bendingmoment,

Wes (32:17):
Yeah, but that is a fight.
It was the whole fight.

Pauline (32:20):
Oh no, I guess I should, I mean, it's my favorite
fight besides the one betweenthe Waterbenders and the Fire
Nation.
All the fights were great, okay,let's talk about which scene was
adapted the best.
the cartoon,

Wes (32:35):
the live

Pauline (32:37):
Because as much as we talk about how we don't want it
to be exactly like the cartoon,us personally, others, can feel
differently.
Um, there were times where Ifeel like they did a good job of
adapting the source material.
So what would you say was thebest adapted scene?

Wes (32:53):
I don't think, it's not like a particular scene, but The
intro, where Aang, I think thecamera's coming from behind Aang
and he's standing there looking

Pauline (33:05):
Oh, the iconic shot of him.

Wes (33:08):
that was greatly adapted.

Pauline (33:10):
Yeah.
I will say since, go ahead.

Wes (33:13):
And also, when he was riding the air, his air bubble,

Pauline (33:17):
Oh, the air scooter

Wes (33:18):
into it and then

Pauline (33:19):
he crashes.
Yeah.
I

Wes (33:20):
That was awesome.

Pauline (33:20):
that.
I do agree.
Those little easter eggs andstuff were pretty cool.

Wes (33:24):
we'll go back.
My best adapted scene wasbasically the last shot of the
intro.

Pauline (33:31):
Where Aang flies in and you have that scene behind him.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm glad that they putthat in there.
Speaking of the intro, I feellike We can talk about this more
when we have our episodecomparing, um, the Netflix
adaptation to the cartoon like,really get into that because

(33:53):
Then we could really yeah, wecan really, really get into
that.
I feel like the intro is, I wasso hopeful that they would bring
in the original word for wordbecause that's the one thing
that really roots us to theoriginal cartoon and I thought

(34:13):
they were going to do it whenthey started in on the shots of
the different benders in theintro and then they deviated a
bit and

Wes (34:21):
I liked the intro.
There was nothing wrong with it.

Pauline (34:24):
I think it would have been cool to keep the original
monologue intact as the introinstead of having Gran Gran be
the one to deliver it Awkwardlylater.
We'll save that for a differentepisode.

Wes (34:35):
it

Pauline (34:36):
Aang's intro,

Wes (34:37):
for a different episode.
Aang's The air scooter ball.

Pauline (34:47):
For me it was the entire Blue Spirit rescue.
Because it just It felt like thecartoon, between the scenery the
overall vibe of the scene

Wes (34:58):
Blue Spirit Rescue.

Pauline (35:00):
When Zuko has a blue spirit mask on and he goes to
rescue Aang from the prison.

Wes (35:05):
and he to rescue Aang from the prison.
That on.
Yeah, the whole

Pauline (35:16):
Yeah, the whole blue spirit rescue because the, even
the setting of the prison itlooked like it was the cartoon.
And so I thought that wasadapted very well.
And then them all, they'retrying to

Wes (35:28):
escape.
It wasn't necessarily a shot forshot,

Pauline (35:33):
it wasn't necessarily like a shot for shot, but I
think they really kept theessence of that scene from the

Wes (35:38):
from the cartoon.

Pauline (35:40):
were a lot, there were quite a few that I, had thought
about, but this one was top forme, because that was a good
episode.

Wes (35:49):
that was a good episode.
Can we give our favoritecharacters?

Pauline (35:55):
Okay, favorite character, because for each
episode we've been talking aboutwho our favorite character is of
that episode, so now let's seewho we think is the GOAT of the
entire season.
Our favorite character, greatestof all time, greatest of this
season anyways.

Wes (36:11):
obviously we're going to have the same

Pauline (36:13):
Are we?
Yeah.
I thought so too.
Okay, we're gonna, can we say atthe same time, on the count of
three?

Wes (36:18):
Are you going on three?
Three or

Pauline (36:20):
No, you gotta, you can't do it on three, cause
we're saying three.
So, It's gotta be

Wes (36:25):
So it's one, two, name,

Pauline (36:27):
No! One, two, one, two, three.
Name.
Name.

Wes (36:31):
Okay.
do

Pauline (36:33):
Let's do this.
Ready?
One, two, three,

Wes (36:36):
Uncle Iroh.
No, I'm just joking.
I just, I wanted to do that.
Okay.
All right, let's do it again.

Pauline (36:41):
do it again.
One, two, three, Zuko! Oh mygod! You

Wes (36:47):
Sorry, I had to

Pauline (36:48):
you knew.

Wes (36:50):
had

Pauline (36:51):
If I had said anybody other than Zuko, would you have
believed me?

Wes (36:55):
have believed me?
Yes, he

Pauline (36:58):
Yes, he would have been, he would have probably
been second.
So yours is Zuko.

Wes (37:04):
second.

Pauline (37:05):
And I think we chose him for probably the same
reasons.
I mean Mm hmm.

Wes (37:10):
him probably the same I mean I I just I think he's the
most compelling character in theseries right

Pauline (37:20):
Yeah, I think if we hadn't seen the original at all
and didn't know anything aboutZuko, I think I would have still
thought that he was the bestcharacter.

Wes (37:30):
character.
He's got a lot going on.

Pauline (37:32):
Yeah, and I'm really excited to see Zuko's storyline
play out in the followingseasons and how Dallas is going
to bring that to life.
Unless they like royally screwit up.
I have a feeling that all ofKO's moments and all of I row in
KO's moments will continue to bemy favorite to watch.

Wes (37:53):
I wish I could watch this series through the eyes of
someone that didn't watch thecartoon.
Because it, would they think wewere crazy?
They're like, what, these peoplelike their favorite character is
Zuko?
Do they think we're crazy or?

Pauline (38:05):
That's, that is an interesting point.
Maybe I'll

Wes (38:08):
They're like, what, you're supposed to not like him.

Pauline (38:11):
We already know from reading the comments from the
previous episode that a lot ofpeople watch this with somebody
who had never seen

Wes (38:19):
this with never seen the show.
Yeah like, who is your

Pauline (38:26):
So that's a good question.

Wes (38:27):
question.
My favorite question, what doyou call the

Pauline (38:32):
question.
What do you call the opposite ofa goat?
This is not a riddle.
I'm genuinely wondering.

Wes (38:38):
wondering.
So

Pauline (38:40):
So if you had the greatest of all time,

Wes (38:42):
time, Worst

Pauline (38:44):
went off.
Woat?
What, worst of all time?
The woat?

Wes (38:47):
of But

Pauline (38:50):
of all time?
But that sounds cool though.
Baddest of I didn't know what tocall this

Wes (38:54):
sheep?
We're

Pauline (38:56):
A sheep?
Gosh, we still have a bunch ofcomments to What?

Wes (39:02):
Sorry, I shouldn't have Googled that.
How about the mole?
Most obvious loser ever?

Pauline (39:07):
That sounds so terrible.
But I like the word mole justbecause of like badger mole.
Who's our

Wes (39:14):
who's our

Pauline (39:15):
Wait, is there a different word instead of loser.
We'll think about it, but fornow we'll say mole.

Wes (39:23):
Do you

Pauline (39:25):
mole?

Wes (39:25):
We have the one?

Pauline (39:28):
Do you think we have the same one?
No.
No?

Wes (39:31):
we don't.
Although, I have seen yours, andI would agree if I didn't have
mine.

Pauline (39:37):
mine.
Okay, Okay, so I'll give minefirst then.
So mine is, unfortunately it'sKatara.
The writers did not do Katara'scharacter any favors and then
also I think not to bash on theactress, Kiawentiio, I just
think that she needs to havemore opportunities to show her

(39:58):
character's depth.

Wes (39:59):
Yeah, it's not her fault.
She went from not knowing how towaterbend Being a master.
in

Pauline (40:08):
give her

Wes (40:09):
one episode.

Pauline (40:10):
with, as far as like character growth and, there were
moments that were great, but I,they need to write Katara's
character much better in seasontwo.

Wes (40:21):
Yeah.
She needs more time.

Pauline (40:23):
What about you?

Wes (40:25):
My least favorite character.
You can guess this.
take a guess

Pauline (40:30):
Taking a guess.
up time.
Oh, I know, I know.
oh you got it?
Is it boomy?

Wes (40:35):
oh gosh no it almost was

Pauline (40:37):
It's jet.
Oh my God.
Are you serious?
It's

Wes (40:41):
my the worst okay he is the mole

Pauline (40:48):
Why

Wes (40:49):
He's so dark

Pauline (40:51):
But that's not a bad

Wes (40:52):
that is a bad thing

Pauline (40:53):
not.

Wes (40:54):
Okay,

Pauline (40:55):
Okay,

Wes (40:55):
gonna win this and I don't want to

Pauline (40:57):
give, make your case, make your case.

Wes (40:59):
What?
He's evil?
Jet's not supposed to be thatevil, right?

Pauline (41:07):
We need to have a

Wes (41:08):
I mean, it's okay, It's okay that they took it there.
I didn't prefer it.
Maybe some people did, but It'slike, I'll just kill everyone.
Okay, That is not, no, that'sJet.
In the cartoon, we've alreadydone, we've already done this.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, everyone.
He didn't mind killing FireNation people.

Pauline (41:30):
That included innocent people.
He knew that

Wes (41:33):
Fire Nation's not innocent.

Pauline (41:36):
there are innocent Fire Nation people.

Wes (41:40):
Okay.
See, I'm not going to, he waswilling to kill anyone and
everyone in the live I'm notdown with

Pauline (41:47):
that.
Including PE like citizens ofOmashu.

Wes (41:52):
Horrible.

Pauline (41:53):
Yes, that is horrible.
But that was his character from

Wes (41:57):
my least favorite character

Pauline (41:59):
Okay.
I somewhat respect your opinion.

Wes (42:04):
opinion.
Just move on.

Pauline (42:08):
I like Jet, so

Wes (42:10):
You can't have, you can't say that right before we move
on.

Pauline (42:14):
because the last word.
Okay, moving on.
Let's talk about just theiroverall favorite episode.
And it doesn't necessarily haveto be what you rated the
highest, because maybe lookingback, hindsight and all that and
how all the episodes fittogether, it's okay if you have

(42:35):
something different.

Wes (42:35):
Well, everyone already knows my favorite episode Not
based off my ratings, but i'vealready talked about it the very
beginning of this episode

Pauline (42:44):
me again.
It's been

Wes (42:45):
podcast

Pauline (42:47):
It's been an hour.
Remind

Wes (42:48):
Remember, I, you said it wasn't fair, but you'll as my,
all of

Pauline (42:54):
okay.
Wait, so we have the same one.
Masks.
That

Wes (42:58):
just copied off of on my note! Girl,

Pauline (43:02):
For all I know, you're

Wes (43:03):
That was a great episode.

Pauline (43:04):
That was my favorite, and I think a lot of people's
favorites.
Even though I didn't cry in itor anything like that, it was
adapted the best.
It was entertaining throughoutthe whole thing.
Nothing felt too forced.
And yeah, it was all of Zuko'sbackstory, and it was just

Wes (43:21):
I wish every character could have an episode would have
been

Pauline (43:25):
that.
Which would

Wes (43:26):
know they tried,

Pauline (43:27):
Katara and Sokka had their

Wes (43:29):
flashbacks.
Yes, don't disagree, and I Ilike the flashback, Um,

Pauline (43:33):
But I don't think it was enough to bring that episode
up.

Wes (43:38):
we have the same favorite

Pauline (43:40):
Favorite episode, masks.

Wes (43:42):
Alright, moving on, that was quick.

Pauline (43:44):
Before we look ahead and talk a little bit about just
our expectations of season two.
Is there anything?
else with this season likedifferent moments or any
criticisms that you have likethe fire nation spy in red that
you

Wes (44:01):
that you wanted to see?
clip of me just critiquing everyepisode.

Pauline (44:08):
of every

Wes (44:08):
Is that too much to ask?
Yes.
Okay.
Okay.
I okay, i all right.

Pauline (44:14):
Okay, we'll look ahead a bit to Season 2 without giving
any plot spoilers.
That's not what we're doing inthis episode.
We are saving that.

Wes (44:23):
that.
I

Pauline (44:24):
I know, I know, but we're just going to talk very
generally here.
Things that we're lookingforward to in Season 2.
You want me to

Wes (44:30):
Well, the first thing you have on there is a spoiler.

Pauline (44:33):
Well, that's a

Wes (44:33):
that I have to do That's what I have to do.
okay.

Pauline (44:38):
So what are you looking forward to in season two?

Wes (44:41):
I think me, you, and the entire universe, fandom, is
looking forward to T O P H.

Pauline (44:51):
Yes, to we are getting Toph I'm very nervous though.
Very, Very When there's so muchpressure On getting one thing
right, I feel like sometimes thefandom eats itself alive
sometimes, if, I don't know ifthat saying makes sense, but we

(45:11):
put so much pressure thatsometimes things will just
always fail in one aspect oranother.
Somebody's going to bedisappointed no matter what.
And I feel bad and nervous forwhoever the actor is going to be
that plays Toph.
Because that's a lot ofpressure, that's a lot of just

(45:33):
the eyeballs on you before youeven

Wes (45:35):
No pun intended.

Pauline (45:37):
Oh.
No pun intended.
Oh my God.
Sorry, Toph.
And I just know I wouldn't wantthat kind of pressure on me
because how They bring Toph tolife, could make or break the
whole series.

(45:57):
If Toph isn't amazing from theget go, a bunch of people will
stop watching.
You know that,

Wes (46:04):
will

Pauline (46:05):
Do you think so?

Wes (46:07):
right?
Do you think so?
Would you

Pauline (46:10):
Would you stop watching if Toph wasn't as great as we've
built her up?
they're going to

Wes (46:15):
you thought she I would be very discouraged to move on with
watching the series.

Pauline (46:25):
Yeah, and I wouldn't blame you.
I would probably just keepwatching, but I don't think I
would blame you

Wes (46:31):
I think we're forced to keep watching because of our

Pauline (46:33):
podcast.
Oh yeah, that's true!

Wes (46:35):
Sorry people, if season, well, whenever they bring Toph
in, if it's not good, we'redone.
else?
Disrepair yourself.

Pauline (46:43):
What else are you looking forward to in

Wes (46:44):
to 2?
I think I'm looking forward tomore side quests?
I would love to get, cause, as Isaid before, even in the
cartoons, season 1 was slow and

Pauline (46:58):
The nature of Nickelodeon

Wes (47:00):
Yeah.

Pauline (47:00):
Yeah.
There's a

Wes (47:02):
season two and three were epic.
And I think Netflix is trendingthat way too.
Like it, it's going to getbetter.
I have a feeling it's going toget better.
Just like the cartoon, it gotbetter season two and three.
So I'm looking forward to, likeI said, more side quests and,

(47:22):
them not following the cartoons,like.
for us original fans.
Um, I hope they don't, I don'twant them to change the
storyline,

Pauline (47:35):
For, yeah, for us original fans.
don't want them to change thestoryline, but I do want them to
add things that, really adddepth to the story, and not that
the story needs more depth addedto it, but there's so much
opportunity there.
Did you have anything

Wes (47:52):
No, that's what I'm looking forward to.
Those are also, as I see thatyou have improvements, but those
are also improvements they canmake as well.

Pauline (48:00):
So for me, besides Toph, I'm looking forward to
seeing more Azula.
I am I'm not completely on boardwith Azula just yet.
Not that I dislike her.
I think just based on the littlethat we've seen so far I can see
it going either way for futureseasons.
Whether I'm gonna like what theydo with her character or I'm

Wes (48:21):
I'm gonna what they do with her character, or gonna what
they do character

Pauline (48:31):
I hope they do Azula justice because, she's an
interesting character, and Ihope that she gets the treatment
that she deserves.
And then the only other thingthat I have here would be
arriving to a certain city inSeason 2, and the politics that
comes with it.
Season 2 is where you see theshow mature a little bit for a

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Nickelodeon cartoon.
And there's a lot of politics atplay, and I think that it has
the ingredients of making areally good live action TV Yeah,

Wes (49:05):
and they could make it relevant.

Pauline (49:07):
I think Avatar as a whole is relevant to

Wes (49:11):
I agree.
I'm just saying the live action,they could really make it
relevant today.
Like, right now.

Pauline (49:20):
home that message, yeah.
The politics of it all can evenrival that of Game of Thrones,
in my opinion.

Wes (49:32):
want?

Pauline (49:32):
Oh, for season two, this goes with the whole
exposition criticism.
There needs to just be moreshowing, less telling.
Or if you're going to tell it,at least do it in a more
interesting and creative way.
But Like I've said before, we'reall adults.
We can follow complexstorylines.
We can read between the lines aswell.

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So do more showing, lessexposition dumping.

Wes (49:56):
Which I think they'll do.
They've got a lot of thestorytelling out of the way.
Now we can get to the action.

Pauline (50:01):
Yeah, that is my hope.
I

Wes (50:03):
With everything you have listed.
I think I agree with everything.
More hybrid animals!

Pauline (50:08):
You skipped

Wes (50:09):
I'm sorry, but I want to get to it.
I hope, and I don't want tospoil anything, but I hope Appa
plays a bigger role.
They tell more of his story.
Team!

Pauline (50:23):
I agree.
There just needs to be morehybrid animals in general.
It's part of the world building.
You can't have Avatar The LastAirbender and skimp out on.
The animals, I'm sorry, you justcan't.
So

Wes (50:35):
put the bear in.

Pauline (50:36):
Up your budget Netflix for the animal department.
That way we have more hybridanimals to talk about.
There's no Quasilla in the nextseason.
So take some of, that and put ittowards the hybrid animals.
So, you know, like have, Havemore birds flying.
It doesn't have to becomplicated.

Wes (50:56):
they need to have the hybrid ducks.
What

Pauline (50:59):
the?
turtleducks.
Okay, they are I think they'regonna have the

Wes (51:03):
have the that's a fan favorite.

Pauline (51:06):
Okay, so what else?
Other improvements that I'mhoping to see?
More natural acting.
For many of the characters, theyneed to forget that they are
adapting a character from acartoon.
I think so far the only one thathas worked for is Sokka's
character because everybodywants to be able to see his
sarcasm.
But for everybody else, This isjust my opinion.

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I could be completely way off,but for a lot of the characters,
it just feels like they'retrying a little bit too much to
be like the cartoon characters.

Wes (51:37):
Not even just kids.
I would say some

Pauline (51:43):
Not even just kids.
I would say some of the adults,especially in the Northern Water
Tribe just felt a bit campy.
Forget that you're adapting acartoon character um, I think it
would be a lot better.
Take Zhao, for example.
Zhao in the cartoon is thisreally obvious evil bad guy.
He had the voice of a bad guy,he had the look of a bad guy,

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but then Zhao in this iterationseems more

Wes (52:09):
completely different from

Pauline (52:11):
different from his character in the cartoon, but it
works, and it's more believable

Wes (52:17):
more,

Pauline (52:20):
Yeah, I would say a lot of the adults there have more
experience, but I'm just saying,I'm not talking about this for
every single character, and thiseven goes for Uncle Iroh as
well, where the cartoon demeanorof that character felt a little
bit forced, if that makes sense.

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So I just hope they find theirfooting in the second season,
feel a little bit more naturalin their roles, and that the
writing really allows theircharacters to take a life of
their own, instead of trying tonecessarily fit into this exact
mold of what it was in thecartoon.
So I could be wrong, I could beeating my words.
But that's just how I feel rightnow.

Wes (53:01):
I like it.

Pauline (53:02):
The only other improvement that I listed here
was just more character andrelationship depth for our three
main heroes.
So Aang, Katara, and Sokka.
I've said this in a previousepisode, right now, I don't feel
That invested in theirfriendship, their relationship
with each other, which is reallyunfortunate because the series

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is about them, and how manytimes has it been drilled into
us that Aang has to do this withhis friends?
But I don't quite buy into theirfriendship just yet.
I think it would have beenbetter if there were more
episodes to season one, and theyallowed more time to have their
relationships develop.

(53:44):
But I feel like their friendshipright now is very surface level.
I think with the possibility ofa time jump in season two, that
maybe it'll feel better becausethen in our minds it's like,
okay, a lot of time has elapsed,but right now their friendship
is feeling a little bit forced.

Wes (54:02):
forced.
I agree.
They're definitely friends, butthey're supposed to be family.

Pauline (54:07):
Yeah, they need to put the same time and attention to
their relationships as they havefor Iroh and Zuko's.
Because right now, Iroh andZuko, their relationship is
great, but they're not, rightnow they are, or at least
leading up to the finale,they're B plot characters.
But they're the ones that reallystood out the most in

Wes (54:30):
I agree.
Your improvements really hit thenose.
I think that they were trendingin the right direction.
So, I think season 2 is going tobe easier for them.
They have a lot of criticism togo off of.
and I, I just hope that theylisten to the criticism and,
don't be like, well screw that.

Pauline (54:49):
I hope they listen to the fans, but also not to the
point to where they getthemselves in a

Wes (54:54):
No, I think they're they were training.
I think since the middle of theseason they were trending
upwards so they're going in theright

Pauline (55:02):
direction.
Yeah, middle was iffy but theyended great.

Wes (55:06):
Shall we read the Facebook comments?

Pauline (55:09):
Yeah, let's get to the comments.
So these comments, we have a lotof them to get through.
But they were ones that we gotfrom our previous question of
the week when we had asked otherfans what they thought about the
finale and if it made themhopeful for season two.
And a lot of the comments wereabout season one overall, so I

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wanted to save those commentsfor this podcast episode.
Let's see if other people agreewith what we think or if they
have something different to sayum, about season one.
So do you want to read our first

Wes (55:45):
do you want to read our first one?
Our first comment we got is fromDamien B.
They say, I personally enjoyedthe show and I think it did a
decent enough job.
I was surprised to feel likeSokka was the most well done of
all the characters.
Not just casting that jawline,but also he felt closest to the

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original in attitude andmannerism.
My three main compliments, er,sorry, my three main complaints,
it felt a bit squished from acomparative standpoint.
Everything happens in Omashu.
Aang is too serious, and mystanding complaint with most of
the live adaptations, everythingis too clean.

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All the clothes look freshlytailored and pressed, not lived
in.
A friend who had not watched theoriginal, watched, loved it, and
did springboard into theanimated so they could get all
those missed extra bits ofstory.
So far, they are most upsetabout the omitted penguin
sledding,

Pauline (56:51):
Yes omitted hybrid animals in general.
But that's cool that, see, likeI said, a lot of folks watching
it for the first time and thengetting into the animated
series.
I will always agree with anybodywho says that the clothes and
Characters in general just lookreally

Wes (57:11):
characters in general just look really clean.
Yeah, with the

Pauline (57:18):
the exception of the finale um, but I think that's
what made the finale amazing,it's not like Avatar has to get
bloody or anything, but youknow, these three are traveling.
To different parts of the worldand they're probably not bathing
all the time.
Let them get grimy a little bit.
Let their clothes Look a littlebit Tattered especially after

(57:41):
fighting and whatnot.
Then it feels a little bit morerealistic that way

Wes (57:45):
agree.
I like that observation.

Pauline (57:47):
Yeah, okay, I'll read the next one.
I think we had read theircomment partially in our last
episode and then I saved thispart for the season one wrap up,
but this is from Rainier D, andthey said, I'm honestly
impressed how they weavetogether the storylines of
several episodes into plausiblebuildup, but the exposition

(58:07):
bombing could really be toneddown.
Really excited how they pullthat off in season 2 though uh,
because if they could make melove how they rewrote Han into a
likable character, then killinghim off screen, and how they
made Yue's sacrifice moreprominent for me, I can only
imagine how much better thispays off later on.
It's good, not the greatest, butenough to be excited about for a

(58:30):
couple more seasons.

Wes (58:33):
uh,

Pauline (58:34):
uh, Yeah, I was surprised with how much I liked
Han by the finale, and I mean, Idon't think anybody liked Han in
the cartoon, he was kind of aChad but, that's one example of
something different that theydid that I think paid off.
Same with Yue.
I agree with everything Rainiersaid.

Wes (58:52):
I love what they did with Han.
I'm glad that some of ourcommenters were agreeing with
them.

Pauline (59:00):
Not that people have to agree with us or that we have to
agree with them, but.

Wes (59:03):
but It's nice.

Pauline (59:05):
Okay, you want to read the next one?

Wes (59:06):
Our next comment is from Wan Shi Tong.

Pauline (59:11):
Just to be clear, like this person's name on Facebook,
they have it listed as Wan ShiTong, and that's how it

Wes (59:18):
how it is.
Respect.

Pauline (59:19):
Wan Shi Tong, why are you on

Wes (59:21):
are you

Pauline (59:22):
The book of Faces.

Wes (59:24):
They say, they showed it is doable, unlike the belief prior
to the release, though itdoesn't mean the product was
ideal.
Loads of improvement needed,which I expect in future
seasons.

Pauline (59:37):
Wan Shi Tong has spoken.
Wow.

Wes (59:40):
I don't agree with loads of improvement.
There is room for improvement,obviously, but not like loads
like.
Obviously, any show could beimproved.
Yeah.
But yeah, I, there is room forimprovement, Not loads of Right.

Pauline (59:57):
Yeah, there's a lot of things, like little things they
could do here and there to levelit up, but, as you know, I'm one
that can get nitpicky so yeah.

Wes (01:00:04):
Thank you, Juan.
Thank

Pauline (01:00:06):
Wan Shi Tong.
That's so funny that's theirname.
Okay, this next one is from,this is a long one.
This is from Andrew V.
And they said, Ultimately, I'mexcited for seasons 2 and 3.
Preferentially, I want Kataraand Azula to be better in
general.
Katara's acting was extremelymid, and Azula, I just don't

(01:00:27):
quote unquote buy it.
She's the least sin leastsinister one in this show in my
opinion.
I also would like some of Aang'slines not to seem so forced at
times, slash slurred, orwhatever.
Okay, just pause real quick.
I don't think I've evermentioned this Before when we
talked about Aang, but sometimeswhen Aang delivers his lines,
like when Gordon delivers hislines if it wasn't for

(01:00:49):
subtitles, I would have a hardtime understanding what he's
saying.
And if it was theater, he wouldbe getting the feedback that he
needs to enunciate more

Wes (01:01:00):
feedback that he needs enunciate more sometimes.
Which, by the

Pauline (01:01:06):
me giving that criticism, that's calling the
kettle black.
But yeah, if it wasn't for thesubtitles, I would have no idea
what he was saying sometimes,especially when he was talking
to Katara.
Anyways continuing on withAndrew's comment, they go on to
say, one actual gripe.
The fact that Aang did not benda single drop of water, aside

(01:01:27):
from iceberg freezing, is totalBS, to be honest.
I don't see any significantbending development, obvious
struggles, or learningexperiences being expanded slash
touched upon in any meaningfulway going forward, and that goes
for all the other elements.
It'll all have to be rushedslash glanced over most likely
later.
I, of course, could be deadwrong, but given the amount of

(01:01:49):
show they've already had to cutout slash rework slash combine
already, I don't think I willbe.
The show has lots of potential,and there were several moments I
thoroughly enjoyed.
My favorite episode is thefirst, something that wasn't in
the original technically I thinkthey're talking about the Airben
or the Air Nation genocide.
But it added some seriousdynamics and gravitas to the

(01:02:10):
narrative that I loved.
Here's to hoping there's more ofthat without hindering the
actual story going forward.

Wes (01:02:17):
of that without hindering the actual story going forward.
Oh

Pauline (01:02:25):
Oh my gosh, that would make me really upset.
I think a lot of people havealready touched upon the lack of
waterbending.
Yeah, I'm hoping that they havea really good reason for that
and that it pays off later, butright now it's I think a valid
criticism that fans have.
Yeah, I think I agree witheverything Andrew is saying.

(01:02:46):
Uh, there's good things, badthings and their sentiment about
the first episode, if it wasn'tfor the added stuff I think the
first episode would have beenreally bad so I hope that they
do have more of that, justadding on to what's already
there.

Wes (01:03:01):
what's already

Pauline (01:03:07):
Okay, so The next

Wes (01:03:11):
They say, I love the show, and as you can see in the
comments, most people aren'treally complaining about real
issues, even though there were alot.
They simply complain about thefact that some things didn't
happen the same way as theyhappened in the cartoon.
Which is just so boring.
It's an adaptation, hello?

Pauline (01:03:33):
all caps.

Wes (01:03:34):
It will be different.
I think the finale was epic inEvery

Pauline (01:03:40):
Every bit.
Sorry guys, we're just readingthese out there.

Wes (01:03:43):
if we're just reading this

Pauline (01:03:47):
There's another one about the waterbending.

Wes (01:03:52):
one about the water bending.
I think it depends on likespecific scenes

Pauline (01:04:05):
it depends on specific scenes and specific episodes.
I think a lot of people are okaywith some of the I don't know if
necessarily the changes, but alot of the additions, but then
there are some people that feellike it's deviating too much.
The fandom is very split, I willsay, so.

Wes (01:04:22):
very, very split, I will didn't

Pauline (01:04:28):
Didn't happen the same way to be fair though there are
some things that if they hadchanged it, say The Blue Mask
Rescue.
If they had changed that quite abit, I probably wouldn't have
been too happy.
I think it just depends.
People are valid in theiropinions, even if it's not
something that I agree with.
I'll read the next one fromEnrique R.
And they said, The live actionsucks.

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They focus a lot on women.
Katara became a master out ofnowhere, Kyoshi had way too much
screen time, and my poor Sokkawas stripped.
Out of all the jokes andsarcasm.
I'm sorry, I'm

Wes (01:05:04):
in.
Sorry, I'm

Pauline (01:05:06):
laughing because Okay, no shade Enrique I hear what
you're saying.
I will say I disagree about thatbeing the reason that it sucks,
and it's not just because I'mfemale.
The original cartoon focused alot on women and female, like
strong female characters.

(01:05:27):
Look at Katara, look at Azula Idon't think that's something
unique to the live action.

Wes (01:05:34):
I agree.
It does seem like Katara is themain character though.
I

Pauline (01:05:38):
do you mean?

Wes (01:05:39):
In the live action?
She's basically given likethey're following her.
We're not following

Pauline (01:05:45):
with that.
I think, the reason why I say Idon't agree with that is because
I feel like Katara has reallyblended into the background for
me.
I wish that they focused on hermore, actually, as far as her
struggles.
She needed to have morestruggles To overcome and we
should have gotten more of thatbesides just like her flashback

(01:06:06):
to her mom, I feel like theycould have focused more on her
character and by not doing so itsuffered.
But I think in order to do so,you have to add more episodes.

Wes (01:06:16):
episodes.
I do have to disagree withEnrique on his comment about
Kyoshi.
Kyoshi is badass, dude

Pauline (01:06:25):
Keoshi had one episode, right?

Wes (01:06:26):
I wanna see more of Mama

Pauline (01:06:28):
I wanna see more of Mama Kyoshi So you.
There are, There are badasswomen in, in Avatar and that's
just how it is.

Wes (01:06:36):
Just how it so

Pauline (01:06:42):
I do.
I don't want them to overdo itthough, to where it seems too
cheesy.
That's the only thing.
I had no problem with.
The amount of sarcasm that hehad.
I think it was a good balance.

Wes (01:06:52):
I can see Netflix ruining his character too that way.
So, That's the tricky balance.
Seems like a theme going onhere, Pauline.
If I hear good things aboutseason two, I might give it

(01:07:15):
another chance, but otherwiseI'll just be looking forward to
the new animations.

Pauline (01:07:20):
I think that's fair.
Don't

Wes (01:07:21):
give up Julia.

Pauline (01:07:22):
give up, Julia, but I understand people's time is
precious, and that's why I'mpicky about the series that I
watch, too.
So, Julia, if you're wonderingif something seems good or not,
then maybe come back to ourpodcast in season two and see if
it's something you want to dipyour toes in.

Wes (01:07:40):
We're going to be brutally honest.

Pauline (01:07:42):
We're going to be fair.
all right.
But yeah, I am also lookingforward to the new animations.
And that's something we can talkabout too.
Once those movies come out,we'll do episodes on those as
well.
At least that's the plan.
We'll see where life takes usthough.
But that is our long term.

(01:08:02):
And we hope that you'll keeplistening to us.
Okay, so the next one comes fromWill N.
And they wrote in, definitelygoing to watch the new seasons.
We can see the potential fromseason one.
They just gotta let the Aangactor thrive and be careful with
which characters they change.
Some are fan favorites andimportant to the overall story.

(01:08:26):
And we all know we're thinkingabout Toph, right?
so.
I get what they're saying aboutletting Gordon Cormier thrive
and honestly I think it comesdown to the writing, you know?
yeah, No he's talented.
I can see that.
The kid is,

Wes (01:08:47):
I don't know.
I don't know what they need todo, but they need to do
something different with Aang.

Pauline (01:08:54):
Yeah, I agree.

Wes (01:08:56):
Okay.
Our next comment comes fromTerrence T.
They say, in my opinion, thebeginning was good.
The middle was insane, but Ifelt they pulled it together for
the end.
It was just weird pacing.
They really wanted it to fit awhole lot in eight episodes, but
it definitely required more.
What they did cut, I honestlydidn't miss though.

Pauline (01:09:19):
Yeah, that's a good point.
I think that's valid.
I already said earlier, themiddle was iffy, and then it
finished on a strong point.
And I, you've already mentionedthe pacing as well.
They just needed more episodes,to be honest.
The things that they did cut outthere, I'm okay, just like
Terrence said.
I'm okay with some of the morefiller y things from the cartoon

(01:09:42):
being cut out.

Wes (01:09:43):
there's not a

Pauline (01:09:46):
Yeah, I think there's not a lot of filler in Season 2.
It's all very important, okay,so then the next one comes from
Cody D.
And they said, my onlycomplaint, Miyuki getting into
trouble with the Fire Nation.
I want to see that old lady'scat terrorizing the Fire Nation
soldiers.

(01:10:06):
Do you know who Miyuki is fromthe

Wes (01:10:10):
Miyuki was the one that gave Aang

Pauline (01:10:13):
Miyuki was the cat.
It was the episode,

Wes (01:10:15):
live action.
Yeah, Katara

Pauline (01:10:17):
frogs?
Yeah, Katara and Sokka weresick, so Aang

Wes (01:10:20):
Aang to take care of the frogs.

Pauline (01:10:23):
came across that old lady, and she had that cat, and
she was Basically saying thatthe Fire Nation has come for
Miyuki in the past and the ladythought that Miyuki was getting
into trouble again.

Wes (01:10:36):
again.

Pauline (01:10:37):
Hey, it would have been another animal on our animal
watch,

Wes (01:10:40):
but it's just a cat.

Pauline (01:10:41):
Yeah, is Miyuki just a cat?
Or is it a special hybrid cat?
don't think Miyuki's a hybrid.
Okay, anyways, moving on.

Wes (01:10:50):
That was great.

Pauline (01:10:51):
Thanks, Cody.

Wes (01:10:52):
Alright, our next comment comes from Grace B.
They say, There were some thingsthat irked me.
Katara's lackluster portrayal,Uncle Iroh being the Ember
Island player's version of UncleIroh, I like that.
But overall I really enjoyed it.
And the special effects werefantastic.

(01:11:12):
As soon as a scene came on, Iknew exactly what was about to
happen because they made thelive action buildings slash
places look so similar to theshow.
I really liked

Pauline (01:11:23):
Yes, I agree,

Wes (01:11:24):
Thumbs up! I like that description.
I agree!

Pauline (01:11:32):
no, no, no, No.
Okay, I will, okay, fair, Iwould say in the finale there
were some moments where I feltlike that, but you agree though
like, wholeheartedly,

Wes (01:11:42):
wholeheartedly, that

Pauline (01:11:43):
for those who don't know um, it's something only
original fans would know, and Idon't, I know how to explain it
without

Wes (01:11:51):
it necessarily saying that this Uncle Iroh

Pauline (01:11:56):
they're saying that this Uncle Iroh is like an actor
playing Uncle Iroh instead ofjust being Uncle Iroh himself,
but Okay, I can, I that's fair.
I uh,

Wes (01:12:08):
Can't really say a lot about that, but

Pauline (01:12:11):
Okay, so then, the next one, how many more do we got?
Oh, we still got quite a few.
Okay, so the next one was fromBo H., and they said, I have
been a fan of the anime since Iwas 12 years old.
Same, Bo, same.
I am 28 now.
Not same, I'm older than you.
Uh, Was the new live actionperfect?
No.
However, if all the producersdid was remake every single

(01:12:32):
episode verbatim, then theywouldn't be producers.
They would just be castingdirectors.
I thought they did a very goodjob trying to bring the anime to
life while also making it theirown.
People's unrealisticexpectations on other people's
artistry is why we can't havenice things.
I am looking forward to the restof the live action series.
My only serious criticism goingforward would be uh, hoping that

(01:12:56):
Hoping they expand their runtimeand or a number of episodes per
season that way they can getmore details and see more of the
actor's personalities trying toshine through Trying to shine
through the big roles.
They are trying to fill dingding ding.
I think Bo put it very

Wes (01:13:15):
Yeah.
It's not a karaoke version ofthe avatar

Pauline (01:13:20):
Yeah, I'd like what they said about People's
unrealistic expectations andother people's artistry is why
we can't have nice things.
I know we all have our thoughts,we all have our criticisms, but
if, sometimes the fandoms canget to a point where it implodes
on its, well, I don't want tosay implodes, but it's almost
like a lose lose situation forall of these live action

(01:13:41):
adaptations, that there's nowinning.

Wes (01:13:44):
not going to match the cartoon and we don't want you

Pauline (01:13:50):
You and I don't.
Yeah, I like that.
Thanks, Bo.
Thanks, Bo.

Wes (01:13:54):
The next comment comes from Adriana G.
They say, live action was dotdot dot dot.
Okay.

Pauline (01:14:02):
was three dots, not

Wes (01:14:04):
dot.
Dot dot dot.
Okay, the exposition dumps, andhere we go again.
And constant dialogue killed me.
Mm-Hmm.
mixing up plot lines that makeno sense, et cetera, et cetera.

Pauline (01:14:19):
say et cetera?
cetera.
It's like two words.
Et

Wes (01:14:25):
et cetera, et cetera.
I liked how Zuko crew was the41st division.
I appreciated showing.
The Air Nomad Massacre but theexecution flopped.

Pauline (01:14:35):
Oh.
Oh.

Wes (01:14:36):
Same with the Ozai and Azula dynamic.
I'm disappointed in

Pauline (01:14:42):
Natla, so that's the nickname for a Netflix

Wes (01:14:45):
Oh, I'm disappointed in

Pauline (01:14:47):
NATLA.

Wes (01:14:47):
NATLA, Netflix adaptation of The La

Pauline (01:14:51):
No, no no no no no no.
Netflix Avatar

Wes (01:14:56):
Airbender.

Pauline (01:14:57):
Airbender.
Just

Wes (01:14:58):
I'm disappointed in Natla, but I will always love the
original series.
Like Nostalgia Critic said,there can only be one Avatar,
and the original series willalways be, to me, the only
Avatar.

Pauline (01:15:13):
I'm sorry, Adriana.
I don't know why that was sofunny.
It can't be true.

Wes (01:15:18):
exposition dumb.
And we agree.
Agree.
I agree.
I don't

Pauline (01:15:22):
though.
And we agree.
I agree.
I don't know about you, but.
I wish that we could textAdriana right now.
Because I wonder what they meanabout the execution flopping.
regarding the Air NomadMassacre.
Because I don't think I've seenthat kind of criticism yet.
It was so highly regarded.
Not saying, they're not wrong,of course, I just want to know

(01:15:42):
What they mean by that?
What parts did they didn't?

Wes (01:15:45):
we need more context.

Pauline (01:15:46):
Yeah.
Like What parts didn't you likeabout that?
So that's interesting.
Do you agree about the Ozai andAzula dynamic not being great?

Wes (01:15:55):
Well, I think they kind of explained that he was using her,

Pauline (01:15:58):
Mm-Hmm.

Wes (01:15:59):
I think there's gonna be more there.
I think we just gotta wait.
But I think it's okay.

Pauline (01:16:05):
Yeah.
Their

Wes (01:16:06):
dynamic's Okay.

Pauline (01:16:07):
I'm cautious about it, but yeah.

Wes (01:16:09):
He's playing them.

Pauline (01:16:11):
Yeah, I'm not crazy about it, but I think if, as
long as it pays off

Wes (01:16:15):
Yeah, it's just a different

Pauline (01:16:17):
then I can change my mind about that, so.
Yeah, thank you, Adriana.
So next one comes from Nick C,and they said, I'm a massive fan
of the animated series, but Ireally enjoyed the NATLA the

Wes (01:16:29):
Natla! The Netflix adaptation.
Okay,

Pauline (01:16:35):
Okay, I,

Wes (01:16:36):
out of time.

Pauline (01:16:39):
uh, But I really enjoyed Natla.
I loved all the nods to theanimated series.
I'm honestly glad they didn'tcopy verbatim.
You can never beat the original.
The only huge flaw was notgetting to see Aang waterbend.
That was supposed to be the mainpurpose of Book 1, water.
So now, in Season 2, he has tolearn water and earthbending.

(01:17:00):
That, er, thought that was a badcall.
But it was still fun to watch,but I am definitely excited for
season two.
And I introduced my mother tothe Natla, and she doesn't know
the animated, I'm so sorry, andshe doesn't know the animated
series.
She loved it and was so upsetseason two wasn't available yet.

(01:17:21):
I think she watched the wholeseries twice already.
Nice.
Oh, yay.
We always love

Wes (01:17:26):
always know who her character

Pauline (01:17:30):
Yeah, let us know who her favorite character is.
Just based off of the liveaction.
as

Wes (01:17:35):
action.
We all hate that Aang didn't doany waterbending, but in season
2 of the cartoon, he's alsolearning more waterbending,

Pauline (01:17:44):
Yeah, I just think from, cartoon aside, I think it
just didn't make sense that hewouldn't at least try to pick
some things up from Katara, ortry to learn along with her.
That's all.

Wes (01:17:55):
they pointed out it's It's the series is water.

Pauline (01:17:59):
Yeah, book one of the cartoon, season one is called
Water.

Wes (01:18:03):
Alright, our next comment comes from Camilo L.
They say, I enjoyed it.
It added so many layers to theoriginal show.
Suki, Zuko, Iroh were the bigwinners.
I loved the feeling of gettingsurprised with the changes.

Pauline (01:18:19):
Same, and I agree.
Suki I know we haven't reallymentioned her much in this
episode, but I thought Suki wasgreat too, even though she only
had one episode.
Oh, hey, we're at our last one.
It's a long one too, so.
Um, so this is from Bri F., hasour final comment here.
And they said, I've been a fanof the original since its

(01:18:40):
premiere.
That being said, I also lovedsome of the details that were
thrown into Natla.
My favorite of which being thatZuko's crew on the ship with him
was the same crew he stood upfor was the same crew he stood
up for against being slaughteredin the war meeting.
I loved that it became fullcircle and when the lieutenant
found out that he was only alivebecause of Zuko and not

(01:19:02):
slaughtered like the sacrificiallamb Ozai uh, was.
was prepared to make him.
He was prepared to do whateverit took to help Zuko.
It is an adaptation, not aremake, and especially given how
the first attempt at a liveaction turned out, there is no
movie in Ba Sing Se.
I think Netflix did a fantasticjob.
What you also have to understandis that the target audience

(01:19:24):
between the two movies are uh,the target audience between the
two are decades apart.
The animated series was made forchildren.
This new adaptation is made forthose same children who have now
grown into adulthood.
The age range in those twodemographics being vastly
different.
Sure, both touch on very heavytopics, but in different ways.

(01:19:45):
I stand by both the Nickelodeonand Netflix versions.

Wes (01:19:49):
I like Bri's comment.

Pauline (01:19:50):
Yeah, that was wonderful.
I completely

Wes (01:19:53):
That's summed up.

Pauline (01:19:54):
That summed it up very well.
Yes, you're right.
It's

Wes (01:19:57):
great one to end on because I think they hit on everything.
I loved it.

Pauline (01:20:00):
Yeah, it's an adaptation, not a remake.
So that is a good point.
Any step up from the live actionmovie is welcome.
And yeah I've implied it severaltimes now that we were kids when
we watched the cartoon and nowwe've grown up so we can handle
a more mature adaptation, we canhandle more complex storylines,

(01:20:22):
and it doesn't have to be justlike the cartoon.

Wes (01:20:27):
like a cartoon, so.

Pauline (01:20:30):
Those are all the comments

Wes (01:20:32):
Thank you all for your

Pauline (01:20:33):
Thank you all.
I'm sorry I did have to cut outseveral of them because I just
don't think we have time to readthem all.

Wes (01:20:39):
Yes, and thank you for giving us a great laugh with the
NATLA.

Pauline (01:20:42):
I don't know why that's so funny, because I've seen it
referred to as Natla many times.
You

Wes (01:20:47):
seen it.
You should have gave me a heads

Pauline (01:20:49):
Well, you're not online a lot, so I see it as Natla a
lot, and in my head it is NATLAbut you're trying to figure out
the acronym.
Don't make fun of me.
So thank you for those laughs.
And just as a reminder toeverybody else, if you Want to

(01:21:10):
put in your two cents?
I don't like calling it twocents because it's that kind of
demeaning.

Wes (01:21:16):
worth more.
How about, give us one copperpiece.

Pauline (01:21:19):
your two copper pieces worth of your thoughts find us
online.
Whether it's responding to aquestion of the week or, you're
just commenting on anything weput out there.
We may include it in a podcastepisode whether we read your
comment or listen to a voicemessage that you send us we'd
love to hear it all, whether youagree with us or not.

Wes (01:21:40):
Yes.

Pauline (01:21:44):
Okay, so before we wrap up our wrap up, do you, Wes,
have any closing thoughts?

Wes (01:21:51):
High 2.

Pauline (01:21:54):
Oh, I wonder if that got caught on the microphone.
Baymax shook his head, and it'salways loud.
It's like a

Wes (01:21:59):
and it's loud.

Pauline (01:22:02):
Launched drool everywhere.
We're all good, though.

Wes (01:22:05):
everywhere,

Pauline (01:22:06):
what was that?

Wes (01:22:06):
all good, though.
Continue, what I hope

Pauline (01:22:11):
I hope so, too.
Was there anything in your notesthat we didn't touch upon?

Wes (01:22:15):
notes that we didn't touch upon?

Pauline (01:22:20):
I know there's, I have lots of thoughts and I never get
them all down, so we'll see ifsomething comes up, we'll talk
about it in a future episode.
But speaking of future episodes,so our plan for upcoming
episodes of ours, it'll probablybe a looser schedule, first of
all.
May is a very busy time of yearfor us.

(01:22:40):
Lots of great things happen inMay.
Right?
Right?

Wes (01:22:44):
A certain person was born in May.

Pauline (01:22:46):
May.
Yeah, it's Taurus season, guys!But aside from that, there's a
bunch of other things taking upour time.
We have Youth Theatre that'sgetting ready to start out that
we're helping out with.
It's the end of the school year.
And Zoe's gonna be

Wes (01:22:59):
the pool opens.

Pauline (01:23:01):
opens.
Yeah so, um, we'll Rest assured,we will still be making more
episodes.
It may not be as rigid of aschedule as we've been doing but
we want to assure you guys,we're not going anywhere.
And As I mentioned earlier, wewill do a more spoiler y,
looking ahead type of episode,talk about our predictions for

(01:23:23):
those that haven't seen theoriginal avatar, or maybe you've
started it and you haven'tfinished the whole series.
We'll tag that episode spoilers,so then that way if you want to
avoid that episode of ours, thenyou'll know which one it is.

Wes (01:23:40):
Yeah so,

Pauline (01:23:41):
Yeah, so let's close out the show.

Wes (01:24:01):
Alright, well that's our show for today.
Thank you all for listening tous.
If you enjoyed this episode, orany of our other episodes, we
would love for you to leave us arating and review, because it
helps other fans find ourpodcast.
A written review on ApplePodcasts helps tremendously, and
has an even bigger impact, andwould be greatly appreciated.
If you don't want to miss out onany upcoming episodes, make sure

(01:24:23):
to follow and subscribe to us onyour favorite podcast app.

Pauline (01:24:28):
Yeah, that would be wonderful.
We would also love to connectwith you all on social media.
You can find us at Avatar NationPod on Facebook and Instagram
and TikTok.
Um, And uh, And I always forgetto mention, we're also on
YouTube too, by the way.
Leave us a comment or as someothers have done, you can send
us a voice message and we mightjust feature it on a future

(01:24:51):
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But either way, we wouldabsolutely love to hear from
you.

Wes (01:24:55):
that like button.

Pauline (01:24:56):
my gosh.
That's all for today.
I am

Wes (01:25:01):
And I'm Wes.

Pauline (01:25:02):
been listening to Avatar Nation.
See you next

Wes (01:25:06):
next time.

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