#37 | Angus Crichton

This week, Cooper & Matty sit down with Roosters powerhouse Angus Crichton to talk footy and more. They dive into his 2025 season, standout performances for NSW, and playing under Michael Maguire at club and rep level. Angus shares insights on the Roosters' high expectatio ns, career highlights, and plenty of classic run-ins with the boys.

 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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cheers for the ongoing and support. Look after yourselves. Oh yeah, hey, guys,
you don't need to go to Turkey to get new teeth. Guys.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
That'll be his next plug too, to Turkey.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Oh man, Oh yeah, guess thanks coming over mate, Thanks
having me for you. Bluke's most people first question asked
when people come here, have you had a night out
with Cooper because most people have, even Mark Boris, I
think everyone sort of had a night out with you.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, yeah, we have.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, yeah, there was. Were you up at booth is
that year that's right for the bubble?

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, me and we were.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
We were staying together, me and Boothy in during the
bubble in twenty twenty one.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Aaron Booth, Oh, actually I remember that.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeah, we were We were knocked out and these guys
were staying in like was the resort called Peppers Peppers
Resort Peppers in USA. We were all in some random
joint and these guys are in the maddest joint in LUSA. Oh,
we got knocked out and this went up to these
guys players and listened to Kooper just chat shit for hours.
I was just laughing my head off.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yeah, yeah, but we think we're blind. We were still in.
But I think I well, obviously.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
I don't know. If you're a major inclusion in the squad,
you added much value.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
I think every kingdom has its gester.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Yeah, I think I remember Belly saying, look like you've
got us, You've got us to the prelium.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Now it's you can sort of you can sort of
do your thing to feed up.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah, you've done enough.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
You've done enough.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah, you've done everything you possibly can. Now just just relaxed,
put your feet up, and you guys won that year No.
Twenty one. That was the start of Penris four people.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Imagine if you and Belly didn't have that conversation.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
What could have happened?

Speaker 3 (02:04):
You could have rewritten the future? Probably, yeah, history.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
I ended up saying I said that to him on
Mad Monday, I said, Belle complacent, You should have let me,
should have let me off the leat, shouldn't have pulled
me back?

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Hey, can we can we do a quick congratulations to
you too, Gussie.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
I don't know if you know this, Matthew, because you're
you're not really on socials looking all the time engaged
over the off season.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
Bra.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Wow, thank you very much for you're happy.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
I'm very happy.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Well, next part of your life?

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, you got any advice dad? As a married man?

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Meetrish next we're thirty years Yeah, and you're happy.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
The silence is define any relationship advice from you?

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Probably last you had a relationship advice from Yeah?

Speaker 5 (02:52):
Or you know.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
I think something that I've learned from experience, communication and
honesty is probably a good posed to start.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Yeah. On the other another note, Jack's collages have been
great out of late, haven't they?

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yes? They have?

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Is that him or is that he's.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
He's got a Michae Let me turn his mica go on? Jack?

Speaker 5 (03:12):
Thanks Gussie, I really appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, tell Gassie where you learned to do the collages from?

Speaker 5 (03:18):
I taught myself.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Taught myself.

Speaker 6 (03:20):
I do a lot of graphic design Forcibly, got to
do a lot of graphic design this.

Speaker 5 (03:25):
Year as of last year. So yeah, taught myself.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
Five the year of the collars.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
I really really appreciate your Feedbacke.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
A bloke that doesn't really post on Instagram that much,
and then out of nowhere, overnight he just turned into
like sep Keep, like Stephen Smith, not Steven Smith, Steven Spielberg.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
It was just like he's turning the smudge overnight.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, just these amazing graphics.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
It was really good.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
We're very proud of heally appreciate.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
This is how saying about marriage. I said, don't go
to bed on an argument. Yeah, I like that, so
I slip on the couch.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, or you just don't sleep.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
It was, Hey, that's the old meat. But we barely
have a cross word. Yeah, there is an institution drive,
so I have to bit that. I gus mate your
last season extraordinary year, really extraordinary season. And I really

(04:29):
soon I don't say turn like a form turnaround, but
just someone's form, just go bang exploded out of it,
out of nowhere, and look, every now and then we
need to kick up the ars or something to get
us going again.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
Was it?

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Everyone was saying a lot about the for Fooder situation.
Was that a bit of a catalyst?

Speaker 3 (04:47):
I don't think so. I think, to be honest, the
writing was on the wall for me going into last
season that it was potentially going to be my last
year at the club. That was talks about trying to
move on. Early discussions that I don't know, I guess
people not doubting me, but almost questioning whether I could

(05:10):
come back or whether there was a spot for me,
or people were out him I guess saying, oh, is
he going to play an RL again? Is he going
to come I guess find his form again? And a
lot of people did count me on. And I think
I just worked really hard over that break, left no
stone unturned, sort of the same sort of stuff that
I've done the whole time. But I guess nothing was

(05:34):
given to me at all in that in that off
season last year, and I worked really hard to make
sure that I did have the year that I did,
And I think, yeah, now I'm back there. I don't
want to have to do that again, you know what
I mean. So you still you still do all the
same work. But yeah, it was tough for me sitting

(05:54):
on the sidelines to start the year in Vegas. It
was tough for me playing Reggies in Brookvale in a
round two. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Well sometimes you know, I don't know, you know, like
you don't know everyone I've seen, But sometimes you need
to touch rock bottom to get yourself going again. And
I see that a lot of times. Like I mean,
people forget sometimes I look at Billy Slater. I mean,
just before Billy Slater his amazing run, which was a decade,
he was playing, he played reserve grade for North Sydney. Yeah,

(06:24):
for a couple of weeks, you know, and he was
a bit like you know, people were looking going and
where's his career, you know.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
And he played, he played reserve grade, but and played
horribly as well. Apparently he went back, you got dropp
back from Billy to the Bears come up to Sydney
and was trying to chip chase and do all this
crazy stuff because he thought it'd be real easy and
apparently was dreadful.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
They ended up pulling him off the field.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
You know what, let's take this interview is a completely
different direction. Let's just bag Billy Slater nowland Glasshouses.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Bill.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
You spoke before people saying that you're not sure if
you were going to return to the NRL. How big
of a reality was it for you, Like when your
heads hitting the pillow at night during that period, Were
you genuinely thinking that yourself?

Speaker 5 (07:11):
No?

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Or did you always know that no? No way. I
think at the end of twenty twenty three, I went
in for my exit meetings and that and spoke to
the gym coaches, spoke to the footy coaches, and they
all sort of knew where my head was at. I
wasn't happy with how I played in twenty twenty three,
and I spoke to Boido, I spoke to all about

(07:33):
sort of strength conditioning guys, and yeah, they know how
hard I train and how much of an emphasis I
put on I guess my position and the style that
I play. You've got to be strong, fit, fast, aggressive,
all of that. And when I was trying to play
that style of footy when I wasn't conditioned for it,
it wasn't working. And I had those conversations with them

(07:54):
and I said, I'm going to come in this next
offseason and just train the house down and then just
remind everyone who I am a bit and yeah, all
those guys were super pumped and so we got your back,
we know what you can do kind of thing, and yeah,
I just want to did it.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
I guess what's like like like at the Roosters and
I'll to get where I'm going here. Like I read
an interview one of the old Men United players and
if it was Nicky Bard or pul Skulls, and he
spoke about when you get bought by Manchester United, you
are the understanding that basically they buy you to perform,

(08:29):
and then when you go through a period for a
couple of weeks in your forms down, you have to
expect that you're going to be spoken about in the media,
you know. And that's that's.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Like the rest one hundred and it is like that,
and it is ruthless. I've seen guys get tapped on
the shoulder. I had had to go, Guys that are
playing well have to leave. Yeah, and it's not just
the Ruths, like the RUSS is ruthless like that, but
it's the whole NRL. Like I've when you're younger you're
a bit naive to it. You think I loyalty this

(08:59):
that you think I want to have a legacy here,
I want to I want to play for one club
or that kind of thing. And then the older you get,
you sort of see guys who have done that and
they still get tapped on the shoulder to leave, or
guys that have had a few games and get dropped,
guys that have a few bad games and get punted.
So it is a crazy, crazy job and industry and
life that we live. But when you're signing up to

(09:21):
do it, you sort of know that that is what
you're signing up to do, and especially at the Roosters
Eastern Suburbs sort of painters as that glamour club and
always sort of expecting that success is. If you're not
providing well as Cooper was doing for Melbourne, providing team morales,
ye team morale and helping the squad go in the

(09:44):
direction they want to be going, you won't be in
the squad for long.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
There's not little one club players retired rare. Now to
see Blake who's been at only one club the whole career,
it's a bit of marriages. You don't see people oftentimes
these days when they're put in the coffin to say, well,
you know he was married once. Yeah, I mean I'm
still I mean I'm nearly thirty years but I'd still optimistic.
They can I can find a better wife and hence

(10:09):
a better life, start a new family, have better kids.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
I think that boat sailed because you've had a vasectomy, right.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, But as opposed to what they called it the snip,
these days they just put a blocker in and no, no, no,
now now they just put a little blocker in there.
So if I wanted tomorrow, I could go in there
and get that removed. You could, so you can do
reverse it now, very easy to reverse.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
He's also frozen his eggs.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah I have.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
He's selling them on the side.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
He has eggs. He doesn't know, but it is right.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
Guess see what you're saying. Before you look at the
best clubs and the best clubs in the last five
years or ten years, you say Roosters, Penrith, Storm, And
the thing that's synonymous with those three clubs is that
they demand success. And it's like if they don't, if
they don't, if they go five six weeks period where
you know the pressures under him because they're not succeeding.

(11:04):
You see them pretty quickly start to already looking for
the next the next player or the bloke that they're
going to move on. Like one of our great mates
is a good example, Brandon Smith, right, he left Storm
at the top of his game, went to Roosters, had
a couple of years of injury and he admits as
himself not playing his best footy and.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Let's turn gusty. Now, let's just give it to brand Billy.

Speaker 5 (11:29):
No.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
But you see, like now obviously that it's pretty common
knowledge that they've said to look for another club to cheese,
So you'd see how But if he was at I
think if he was at a lower tier club that
doesn't demand that sort of top four success every year,
they'd be happy to they'd be happy to not tap
him on the shoulder.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Well, you know, Frank Ponisi at O and Bellier, you
know they used to every single they might still do it.
They go go look at clubs in Europe and whatnot
in the States, and they said, what was interesting. They
went to some of the big soccer clubs in Europe
and Asian put a lot of money into their academy
and stuff like that. And when they went to Arsenal,
they met with arsen Vega and they went, you know,

(12:08):
they had didn't really have a big academy and everything,
and they asked, you know why, and he said, well,
it's simple. We just buy the best players and if
they don't perform, we get rid of them.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
It's ruthless. Yeah, you've got to be cutthroat.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Frankie Penis's cutthroat man, he is. Yeah, and we know
he loves the potty too.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Very great man. I only got to know frank in
Origin this year.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
True.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Yeah, he's a good operator.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Smooth yeah, yeah, and just he's loved by that.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Tell you what, though, can be scary, can be the
Italian So he's got the Italian temper. Yeah. Yeah, he's
been around a long long time, frank. So, like we
were in our ninety five World Cup, he was our
assistant coach and manager. He was Bob Fulton's assistant coach.
Now is that interesting, No, it isn't. But it was
just the reason for me to say to you that
I went away with the Australian side in the world

(12:55):
and we won. But now and then he went to
he went to Chad African rugby Union when the English
rugby Union. He's really done, he realized he had.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
He didn't know where he was going with it.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Now I know where I was going.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
I tried to smother it in information perfect you drowned
us out.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
What are we talking about again?

Speaker 1 (13:17):
I can't remember Billy Slayer? Uh?

Speaker 2 (13:21):
You know what?

Speaker 4 (13:22):
Why why we call him Frankie Penisy? So obviously his
name's Penissie.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Oh, thanks Scoop.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Just for the listeners. I don't want them to start
the saying penis.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
But me and when I was I think it was
twenty eighteen, me and Shandor all did an hour radio
slot on sen Melbourne called the Storm Hour where.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
We would like go into studio.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
It was a horrible show, like so bad, but I
can imagine.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
But all the boys storm out.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
It was from six to seven pm on a Wednesday
night at prime time.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah, everybody's in the car. Kids are in the car
leaving footy practice.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
A pretty stale shaft and all the.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
Boys would just listen, and Dad would listen from Sydney
and he'd ring in as his character called from Honor
from Dandy Knong.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
But only I would.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Know the guy who actually was the host of the
show had no idea, and it was like this really
like scary sounding lady, horny, horny woman, and she was
always she always ringing and goes, oh, hello Shanda or
loving the show at the moment, and we go all right, o'donna,
so what's been happening? And she go, oh, I'm just
sitting here reading a massimine beef curry and uh. And

(14:24):
it was reminding me of the time that I used
to date your old football manager, Frank Penis.

Speaker 6 (14:29):
And.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Again, oh is it okay? Right, okay?

Speaker 2 (14:36):
And then Frank, I remember Frank. Frank would listen in
and Frank and go, who who is this lady that
keeps ringing?

Speaker 4 (14:43):
Accusing that every week it'd just been the same thing,
and it'd be an old dating story of her and
Frank making love.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
We would have a massimine carry and make love in
the bushes. Anyway, back to Billy Slater.

Speaker 4 (14:59):
Yeah, yeah, don't we go to state of origin for
a second. Yeah, obviously had Frankie in there. How, coming
off the back of that tough year, you started the
year in amazing format. Did you I don't want to say,
did you expect to be in the squad. But how
stoked were you when you got the call to like that?
Was that a real, you know, pinch me moment.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
After the year that you just had, Yeah, for sure. Well,
obviously I started the year and not in the rooster seventeen,
and then I got back in the seventeen. I was
getting like ten to fifteen minutes a game, sitting on
the bench for seventy minutes, which was burning me as well.
So I was obviously in my head after the pre
offseason I had I knew, I'm like, I can get

(15:42):
back in this arena and make it my own, get
myself back in that jersey and do a job. And
that was always the goal and I always have belief
that I'd be able to do that, but its just
a matter of getting the opportunity to be able to
show that. So once I've got that, it was just
sort of one step at a time. Once I got
that chance to get back in the rooster's jersey, just
doing the best I could with that ten minutes and

(16:03):
doing the best I could with that fifteen minutes. And
I think it was maybe my third game back against
the Bulldogs. I think it was I played I started
on the left and played eighty and I was like,
that's another good step. And I just had to keep
on stacking it up, stacking it up. And then yeah,
when I got that call from Madage, I was stoked,
because yeah, I was excited for Madge to come in
and take that job. And even even when I wasn't

(16:24):
in the rooster of seventeen. Before we went away to Vegas,
Magic called me up and asked me to come around
to his place because they do like an Origin get
together every year camp They get like the top thirty
candidates or whatever in and take them out for a
little camp and stuff like that, and I wasn't included
in that, but he still messaged me and said, oh,
you're still in the frame, like don't count yourself out

(16:45):
kind of thing, just because you won't invited this thing,
I'm still thinking about you for that position. Like I
forget what he said, but he pretty much saying like, oh,
you don't lose what you've got kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Like it's still in your classes, permanent.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
And so it was funny. I went around the Madge's
house in South Ruba and I had like a nicely
chopped up fruit salad that is. That is why I
have been prepared. But it was funny. We sat at
the back of his house and like for him to
call me up, and at that point, like people were
counting me out, people were saying I'd never play on

(17:21):
r L again. People would saying all kinds of things.
And for him to say, you don't, you don't lose
what you've got kind of thing. Just believe in yourself
and keep going because you're in the frame. That was
a good little reminder for me to be like, Okay,
this isn't lost what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Well, he brought you in the first grade, didn't he,
the bunny.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah, well he brought me across the league in the
first place. So I've got a lot of time for imagine.
I think amongst all the crazy stories and the hardness
that the man is, I think is just a really
caring guy and a caring coach and just loves his players.
And he's an absolute free who loves rugby league like
down to his core.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
So you'll get the Broncos going you just you know,
there's all these stories about things that are going on
and people question these methods, but he gets success. How
different was he because when he got you across when
you came through in the first grade at the Bunnies,
I'm trying to use the right term. It's not as
if the Bunnies had gone Basically, they'd had their they'd
had their success, and they were on. They were just

(18:23):
starting to dip a little bit, not dramatically, but you
came into a side that had just won a competition.
How different was Madge during those times to the men
you walked in Dirigent camp with, Yeah, well, heaps.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
I think when when I walked in there as a
as a young and I was eighteen and just finished
high school. My first preseason went on tour to Arizona
like we're in, did the Grand Canyon with g I
and Soto and Sam Berger.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Had the whole American experience. Boys got arrested, that's.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Vomited on, got kicked out, and I got locked. I
think that was the end of Madge giving the boys
to keep letting go out. Yeah, yeah, he's always pretty strict.
I'm not letting the boys go out.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
This is the worst final last words. Boys go out
by all means have a good time, just behave yourself.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
There's no publication, but yeah, seeing Madge then like I
was obviously young, and he's like an intense coach, like
he's he was like fire. Like my first wrestle session
went for like our forty five, like no drinks breaks.
I was just young, raw bone, long haired kid from

(19:34):
Scott's College. You'd never done a rest session in his life.
Like I was trying like chop people like you know.
I wasn't just like getting your technique. I was just
like banging it like yeah, John, something was.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Just throwing me around like burns or energy.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
I was gassed after like ten minutes, but I wanted
to be like, yeah, I'm here, I'm here to go,
you know what I mean, Like I'm the younger.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Anyways, that's getting pair it up, Sam Burgess.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
And yeah, tom Me, he's on that trip. Tommy housed
picture Tommy.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
What did he get sent on for?

Speaker 3 (20:04):
No comments?

Speaker 1 (20:07):
I saw Tommy he was arrested. And there's Tom Hughes.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
I saw Timmy Hughes up in Biro and actually over
New Year's Yeah, one of the great a human Kozewski.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
They were in excellent form. I don't know if they'll
remember it, but oh yeah, what do you got from you? Jack?

Speaker 6 (20:22):
We actually had a me Gussie and Tommy Hughes actually
had a night out a few years back. Me and
Tommy were playing reserve great up at Newcastle and we
had this. We went to the of all places, we
went to the Cricketers Arms in Newcastle's. Fast forward to
the next morning. We all wake up at Tommy Hughes's
apartment and we're all We're all wearing head to toe

(20:44):
Newcastle Knights, New South Wales Cup kids.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
I was in the full nights jersey, like sock shorts.
We're doing crossfield kicks onto like the landing mediums to
like the little bits of grass across the road. Yeah,
he had like a bit of a hill and he
was like putting these kicks across to me was a
bit jewey.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
In the morning, I was like catching them hungover.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
It's funny. That's the best performance for a nice player
in a nice jersey in the decade. Actually in those years.

Speaker 5 (21:07):
No, Tommy had horrendous hands, so it was a lot
of drop bored.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah, good to turn him down.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
So it's the last he gets two turns up.

Speaker 4 (21:17):
We can only turn him twice up in a podcast
and then he's otherwise he runs with it. He asked
Brad Parker a question the other day. He dead set
rambled on for three minutes and then worse than money before,
almost as bad as that. It was just a little
bit shorter.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Now, just a question when I played for Australia nineteen
ninety nine, four years after the World.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Cup, what about tell us about your Origin series, mate,
like your on field performance in the Origin series, which
me and David were.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Talking about it earlier.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
It was probably for a back roll.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
It was nearly the best series ever Origin back row.
Ever you don't often see, you know, second row was
winning the Wally Lewis medal.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Congratulations by the way, I know he told us to
say that.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
But tell us about how confident, how confident were you
going into that series, like, because your form going into
it was undeniable.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
You had to be picked.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
But it was just long question this, Well, you're happy
with the Wally Lewis medal.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
Yeah, I think it was. I think I was just
clear heading into that. I was just real clear on
my game. I think sort of getting to my age now,
like twenty eight like that was I feel like twenty
eight that's kind of your peak as a forward, like
you sort of know the game, you know your body,
you're getting stronger, you've done the case, like you're sort
of getting up and around those larger games, like it

(22:36):
becomes more normal. And I feel like I was just
really really clear on my role and what it was
going to take for me to do my bit for
the team to win, and the guys around me as well,
Like Jerome was one of the most unsung heroes of
that team, Like he did such a good job coming
in there. Dill Edwards did a great job coming in

(22:57):
as well, Mitch Moses, like that medal could have gone
to anyone. Like I think that team that we had
it was a real selfless team, and like what Madge
was saying, he picked on form and everyone was sort
of ready and had a whole lot of belief in
what we could do when a lot of people same
sort of thing were counting us out a bit.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Were you given the job, like from the outside looking in,
were you given the job to kind of be that
enforcer and ruffle Queensland feathers, because it seemed like, particularly
when you're nearly killed Valentine Holmes, when you come underneath
that time. But did Madge give you that sort of
job to hit.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Him so hard he's so can Casty sign for the Dragons?

Speaker 3 (23:37):
No, No, he didn't, he didn't. He didn't go on
about any sort of enforcer role or anything like that.
But I think origins like that, when you're forward as
a back roller like you, that's your job is to
terrorize that half and make sure that you're trying to
eliminate any sort of impact they can have and sort
of nullify their effect a bit. So obviously with Chez

(23:57):
being one of their leaders and whatever, and I got
on really well, which as I reckon, he's a great
guy and he's a great player, and to try and
get into his head and try and make his night
as hard as possible. That that was my own personal
that was my mindset going into it.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Yeah it Madge did very well and Phil Good was
a genius. So was the fact that very often in
State of Origin series, part of it is okay who
writes the narrative for the series, and so often Coeensland
are able to do that. Even when Coeensland going as favorites,
they paint them that they twist the narrative to make

(24:34):
themselves the underdogs and whatever reason. Oftentimes we'll throw New
South Wales completely off balance. Phil Good was able to
bend the narrative and give the Blues an underdog mentality,
and I sort of sense that Madge was able to
do the same thing.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yeah for sure. I think Yeah, Madge did sort of
shake things up a bit. I think like moving us
out to the Blue Mountains, being like, oh, this is
what we're doing, sort of removing a lot of distractions.
And his whole big thing was wanting to build that
connection and making sure that everyone was really tight and
would play for each other. And I feel like he
did that, Like our group was super tight, a lot

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of guys from different clubs, different backgrounds, different personalities, and
he brought us really close together. And yeah, you sort
of make special memories like that, and you can't take
that kind of thing away.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Whether by design or accident. You have the And I'm
not asking you to comment on this, but the Glasshouses
thing with Billy like that, it was just a comment,
but it really it had an effect on the series.
And people say yet, but it hadn't. It had an effect.
It clearly irritated Billy, and I don't know Billy wouldmit.

(25:41):
I think it threw him off balance. A little bit,
and I think it was. I don't think it was
by design, it just the way it panned out.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Did you have a room in that camp.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
No, we had our own rooms, budgets, getting Jesus, that's good.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
We have. We used to have a roommate. We used
to have a single bed and a double bed. Used
to have to flip unless your room with he just
jump on the double bed. You couldn't get him off. Literally.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
I would have thought just.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
The oldest or the most capped player. Would you got
the double bed right?

Speaker 1 (26:11):
No, Often times you went to the room was generally
you're tossed for. It could really ruin a serious if
you got the single bed.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
If you've got a roomy the older guy or the
boys gets it.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah. I thought it's more of a respect thing.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
Yeah, would you say that, I won't ask you if
I'm a rookie coming in, I'm not just going to
jump on the.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Double I wouldn't.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
I wouldn't even ask to flip. I just got a'll
take the single bed.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
There's the famous story of in nineteen seventy eight kangaroo
tour tom Ydnoicus and stud This is one of the
rare stories that'sn't involved themself.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Did he go on this guy?

Speaker 2 (26:44):
How many? How many?

Speaker 3 (26:45):
How many caps?

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Twelve?

Speaker 3 (26:47):
That's good, that's good. That's a great number twelve because
you had.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
What three Origin but twelve Australian correct four four Origin
twelve Australia.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Oh wow, okay, yeah, sorry, return.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
None is of any kendar retort. That they go and
the two half backs fighting for the spot, tom Roydonoicas
and Steve Morton. Mortimer's the young half back, Tommy's the incumbent.
They go up to the dragon Ara Hotel, single bed,
double bed. Steve Morner throws his bags on the on
the double bed. Tommy walks in sousa, just grabs his
bags and just throws them straight out the window.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
I have respect, I reckon, that's play on. That's from Tommy. Yeah,
it's a respecting respecting respect is big.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Thanks.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
I belove you just spoke about Droome lou I unsung
hero of that Origin series. You played a lot of
footy with him. Give us your insight. How do you
reckon he's going to go with the Tigers, because what
he did in that Origin series as not having not
having his right hand man Nathan there and during the
year he basically played half back there.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
He owned it. He owned it, and I think, yeah,
everyone sees, I guess, the off the cuff stuff. Everyone
sees him getting a people's head and is acting like
a bit of a menace. But I think behind the curtains,
he's that sort of meticulous trainer, like he goes so
hard at training or nail all of his stuff. He'll
be owning the sets, He'll be ordering people around, He'll

(28:10):
be doing extras with that edge after training, making sure
we're executing, getting that defense and all that on. He's
leading the line speed, all those little things. He's he's
meticulous without a training so that when he goes to
the game he can just go and be a menace,
you know. So I feel like he's doing that work
now with Tigers, and I feel like he'll I feel
he'll be good. I don't know. I don't know where

(28:31):
they'll end up, but I think without doubt with the
ross they've got now with a lot of the other
guys about it. Two teammate Royce Hunt, who else they got, Yeah,
that's teammate.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Yeah, sorry, I'm just not up to the sort.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Of more j Yeah, I think that's it, Taruba, that's right. Yeah, yeah,
he's been there for two years now.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Of course.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
Yeah, I've said Royce Jack's mouthing Royce Hunt, who is
already said good to see everyone's actually listening.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
But you know what where Jerome be really good is
Jerome's got that natural swagger some guys it doesn't suit
some guy's force it. It's just he's got that natural
exuberance and confidence. It's exactly what the Tigers need. I
think he'll have like a Stephen Crichton type effect.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
I agree. Yeah, And did you see he's watched every
game twice?

Speaker 2 (29:19):
I've seen that.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
He come out and said, in preparation for the season,
he watched every Tigers game twice last year.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
From last season's depressing. Surely you're going to pick up
some bad habits.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Is that when he put the claws in like the
twelve months clause, he can get out.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
Of imagine that.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
But why twice just to make sure you didn't miss anything?

Speaker 2 (29:40):
That's particulous.

Speaker 3 (29:41):
That's ridiculous, Hey, excellent wordiculous.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Yeah, are you even reading the dictionary or something?

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Jono Ringer push on the spot. Have you watched much
of the Tigers the last couple of years. Yeah, I
watched all of their games twice. There's the headline, Richie.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Yeah, do you reckon?

Speaker 4 (29:58):
Do you reckon any of the because he cops a
fair bit of flakman, even though like he's been so successful,
because he kind of leans into being a bit of
a villain, like he doesn't really care.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Do you reckon?

Speaker 4 (30:09):
It doesn't bother him at all, or he just genuinely doesn't.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Give a shit.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
I reckon. He loves today really like I honestly reckon.
He doesn't care at all. But it's different when you're
winning comps and winning games. So it will be interesting
to see how it all plays out. And I do
think Tigers will win a lot more games this year
with him. They're leading away at the helm because that
other young kid as well, Galvin, he's a good player.

Speaker 1 (30:31):
Too, So he's a good player, very very good player.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
They reckon.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
He got like four minutes twelve in a one point
in a Bronco.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
He's really young, Like oftentimes you get God's like gust
when you come into first grade you're eighteen, but you
know you built your physically very phizzicly big and strong.
When Lucky Galvin came on the show last year, so
I got two shows and Fox. It's just a way
to promote myself.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
We said to Gussie before the podcast, don't come on
here and plug all your all your sponsorships and products,
because he loves the plug. This is going the same
as you. Now you've plugged every Origin and Australian test.
Now you're plugging your shows.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Locky Galvin came on Sunday Night Shower, not the Thursday one, no,
but he came in and like he's eighteen nine year
old kid, he looks sixteen.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
He's a big unit. He's tall, rangy like when I
played again he was, and he goes hard like he'll
take the line on his pretty feelerss like he was
really good against that.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
Just the way he's demeanor and everything, Like he's like
a genuinely like young bloke. And I'm looking at mate,
like how well guys handle the pressure that I love.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
I love how he's got that like spiky two thousand
and eight sha hair.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
You know, I think he's just died it too blonde
tis Yeah, he just bought a GOADI into, which I respect.
So if you're listening, Locky. I love the goody man.
Keep it up.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Yeah, you got the tat too, Now he got the tat. Yeah,
what's the something like.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
I did see the Sudden Cross something inspirational. Is it's
growth or something growth?

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Addicted to excellence? Yeah, the time one of the players
for years ago got a tattoo addicted to excellence and
the tattoo was spilt excellence. Wrong?

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Really, no ragrets.

Speaker 4 (32:17):
What about Australian Australian I'm not going to focus too
much on it. I went out and watched the final
against Tonga. Jeez, the Tonguan fans go insane, don't they.
That was That was as good as an atmosphere as
I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
Yeah, that place was rocking, the kombang they had. Yeah,
it was a full sea of red, like if there
were many Ody supporters there. They were wearing red.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
And we were quiet, Yeah, out of fear of them,
just turned on.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
But it was sick.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
It was so cool.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
And their fans are actually unreal as well. Like I've
got obviously a few good mates in that team since
Entrepreneur and too Daniel tupohen seeing their families after and
they give you like the reefs around your neck. And
even all the Tonguan fans, even though they're they're so
savage and that you and jeering for tongue at the
end of the game. That the loveliest people, such a

(33:05):
beautiful culture.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
That's the great thing about the game. Like you think
about the Rugby League, what had what it has given
some of the Pacific Island communities out there, like Tongua.
But I mean you look at the like we said
before about Jerome, like Jerome, Stephen Crichton, Brian, those boys
from Mount Drewid, What that has given the Mount Drewid community.
That's one of the great things about the game.

Speaker 6 (33:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Will you look at like a lot of those players,
well I'm looking at from a social media point of view,
like some of those Pacific Island players Roamy bizarre, They've
they're like the most sort of followed players in the NRL.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
Yeah, they're the biggest stars on on all the TikTok
and Instagram all that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah, is unbelievable. Yeah. Yeah, and so student crime.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yeah, Christian Christian is Christian Crichton still playing.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
I don't think they came. They trained against us, like
one of them Penrith I think a grade teams when
we were in Origin, they came up to Blue Mountains
and trained against this and they were all out.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
There is a time for tough talk.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
Well yeah, now look Gussie, this is Dad's segment okay,
and it's he asked the tough questions.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Okay that and you have to answer on you don't.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Have a choice.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Yeah, I'm locked in.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Yeah, they are real tough questions. And not even the
journals last week, go Dad, well not.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
The good ones. Buzz I d say that it buzz Okay. Now, Gussie,
we spoke for you began your career at the Rabbits.
The difference as a club between South and Ee. I'm
mean a path from training facilities, speedboats and three hundred and.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Fifty thousand facilities are better than our. Have you seen
the really we've got to we've all got electric scooters
and bikes to get to our field, We've got to walk,
okay to get there.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
That's because yous own about like seven hectares of property
in Sydney suburbs.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Right well, they could have built it over there and
we would just walk on the field.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Like so, they won't let you drive your miss ladies
bends across to the training facility. No, No, that's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
He actually got no parking. We got to park on
the street.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
Really, you're dirty, nick face for the parking on the street.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
It's actually funny. I was in the news agent's just
before I came here and there was the paper there
and the headline of the paper was coke zero and
it was like, Rooster's boss has no cocaine policy, Like
if you get caught with it or whatever, you're done.
Now I walk in some random guy and he's like,
you're allowed me, coke mate. He's like pointing at the papers.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
I know, comestable. Okay, let's imagine you're about to hop
on a thirty hour flight. You're going to Europe. Which
one of the Rooster's teammates, if you could select one
to sit next to, did you say, yep, he's my man?
Would be a great company, probably kind of Watson American? Yeah,
I lovely, lovely man. What about the one that you
just if you saw him coming and now you get

(35:56):
that personal f like oh no, and he come and
sat next to you, went on, this is this is bad?
Probably Robbo Robber, Why.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
I love I'd probably I'd probably picked Robo to sit
next to me.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Actually, we'll let it around. That's fine, okay, okay, we
all yeah, we always joke about this. But as far
as batting overs, you know, as far as you look
at a player and he and his wife or oh
my god, how did how did he get hurt? Like

(36:33):
my she's got who who's batting overs?

Speaker 3 (36:36):
I probably nominate myself to my beautiful fiance now, Chloe,
well play Jesus.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
That's you've sucked up the robber and sucked up you've
got the ring on the finger. It's fine, you don't that?

Speaker 4 (36:48):
Yeah, actually, can we somebody I know the other day, right,
they've been similar to you, how you've got that middle
finger cut? So from a health benefits point of view,
because they'd think about getting it cut off, What is
the benefit of of it getting chopped?

Speaker 3 (37:04):
There's no benefit. It was just so broken that it
was better for me to not have it at all.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
That was our bad ah, right, So it was just
so you didn't have to break it again. Just cut
it off.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Yeah, it would just keep breaking and I just keep
missing games and painful And what a question?

Speaker 1 (37:20):
What is the benefit of chopping your finger off? What's
the benefit of having one arm lost four kilos?

Speaker 4 (37:27):
But I thought that they cut their like when they
cut a limb or something to prevent infection or something
the rest of your body.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Yeah, for some people with I didn't have gang green
in my finger.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Oh you didn't, Okay, sorry, when people lose a leg
an arm, No, I have never had that phantom.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
I've got gang green on that toe.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Oh yeah, have you got the have you got the
finger anywhere?

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Or it's just yeah, I've actually on a little necklace
at home.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Some people do weird think, I know, I wish I did.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
I wish I would keep it.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah, but especially because it's your middle finger.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
Well, it was actually pretty gross, like by the time
it got cut off because I got the tendon fixed
and then once the tendant had healed all the cartildge,
it died. So it was literally just like bone on bone.
It was so painful, so they put originally it was wires.
They like to put wires on it to try and
fuse it. So they pretty much effectively cut the knuckle
out so it was stuck on an angle like constantly

(38:26):
giving the bird, and then it would just keep getting
whacked in tackles and just kept breaking and breaking. So
I think I could try to get it fused five times,
so I've still got half a screw in there.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
So by the time it got cut off cut off,
it was like shorter, it was bent like that. It
was all skinny. I'll show some picks after. It was
pretty rare.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Ah, Okay, we spoke before your relationships and we said earlier,
we said that, you know, not at all marriages go
the distance. I think statistically two and three these days,
how many players in the club are married now? Fair few.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
There's not many single boys getting around anymore.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Only if you had to have a wager on one
that won't last, which one would just say marriages or yeah, yeah,
probably either raw because a lot of people these days
are in for the long haul but don't necessarily get married.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
Do you think do you think any of your mates
to play for?

Speaker 1 (39:22):
I can't believe you're about to answer this. No, I
think I think.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
I mean, the Rusters is a great club, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 1 (39:30):
So now a couple of Robbo's high profile assistants like
Rusters always it's a stepping stone to have your head
coaching job. Matt King and Justin Holbrook. Okay, hypothetically, if
I was to tell you that in five years one
would get an NRL head coaching job and of one
accomp and the other one would be unemployed, which would
be which.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Who is writing these questions?

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Him? You come up with your truth chide, he's there?

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Who is the question?

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Maddie and Justin Holbrook? Which one, hypothetically do you think
you had had to have a wager would be a
head coach in five years and of one a camp
and the other one unemployed? Which one would you guess?

Speaker 3 (40:10):
I would say that Kingy would be out the front
of his house, paid off South could you mansion? Missus
killing at fluid Parts. He's hung the Hunger clipboard up.
He's living the high life, stress free, hanging out with
his kids.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
He's unemployed.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
So he's unemployed because he doesn't need if he doesn't
need the cash, and he doesn't need the cash now
he's just doing the flow of the game.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
You're sure sure?

Speaker 3 (40:34):
Now?

Speaker 1 (40:35):
This is this is one that Fox Sports actually when
they found out, did the Podcort podcast in particular Tough Talk.
So they want some feedback. Who do you think is
the best commentator firstly, do you have Fox Sports?

Speaker 6 (40:47):
I have?

Speaker 3 (40:49):
Now I should get that for free. Sure, I was
meant to go for three and I didn't. I still
pay this, thank you.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
We'll saw that out.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Thanks, we'll get under that you yeah through.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Who do you think is the best commentator in rugby league?
Is there?

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Who are our options? Is there anyone's good?

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Still going open? Okay?

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Does anyone still listen to the game with the volume up?

Speaker 1 (41:13):
I'm pretty sure they do.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
I think I usually listen to Joey Joey Channel nine?

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Is that.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Sorry? Fox Sports?

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Did you say you think Joey iss going commentator?

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Well? Stop it there?

Speaker 5 (41:28):
Ah?

Speaker 1 (41:30):
Okay? Who do you think is the worst? Actually? Stop
it there now? FLETCHENHEINDI write a hypothetical. They're held by
Chechen warlord who released one. If you play one hundred
thousand dollars? Do you a not pay and allow both
of them to die? Or b pay? But they're only
going to release one? What do you do and who

(41:52):
do you save? Who would you save?

Speaker 3 (41:55):
I'm keeping my cars?

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Okay, well you wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
You wouldn't save either of them?

Speaker 3 (41:58):
What is it to me?

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Well, Fletcher's a former Roosters.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Great isn't it, But he's I'm living one hundred K.
I don't know what you guys are making in the media,
but I need that cash.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
I'm sorry, like he had to for the love of it. Well,
thank you for engaging here.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
We are talk cool on the on the beach mortgage three,
it must be nice. This is actually the size of
my apartment.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
There's good money. Acting like a dickhead. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
Hey, Rooster's twenty twenty five season, let's I lost a
fair few players, Luke ke jad Rea Hargrave, Siward.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Lee, Joey Marnu. Did we Have you not noticed them
around the place?

Speaker 1 (42:33):
They must know.

Speaker 3 (42:33):
I haven't heard any comments or any reports of this,
have you not? No? No, it is going to be
a rebuilding.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Years that No.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Hey hey, hey, oh is that is that?

Speaker 6 (42:44):
I know?

Speaker 3 (42:44):
I just this is what I felt like. This was
where the question was leading.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
No, no, no, you didn't let me finish?

Speaker 3 (42:50):
Sorry, mate?

Speaker 4 (42:50):
How is how is the vibe around the camp without
such experienced players there?

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Oh that's a great question, mate, you're going to start
in kyo. Mate, it's actually really good, hay, Like I
feel like a load of young guys have really stepped
up over the break before I came back. Obviously we
had a few of us guys that came back after Christmas,
but pre Chrissy, a lot of these new younger guys
have really stepped up. I reckon there's a few young

(43:18):
guys in our squad who will I don't know, become
more household names this year, Guys that people probably haven't
heard of before, and I feel like that'll be a
huge I don't know. Addition to us as a squad
is having our team. I guess everyone's more important rather
than having all these superstars you can just pass award
to Joey Marner or could get to Swali and we'll score.

(43:39):
I guess it's going to sort of force us a
little bit to be a bit of a tougher team
and lean on everyone a little bit more than we
have in the past. So I think the training that
we're doing now is putting us in good stead to
to do some good things this year.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
Is there a young player that you're Is there one
that you're like who's been I don't want to say
they train in the house down or but is there
someone that you're looking at You're like to see how
the year goes.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
There's there's literally like five plus young kids.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
I think all these locals.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Yeah, yeah, proper. I think the Academy made always running.
The Academy got Jooe Nuggy Nah. But if we're being serious,
I think Rob Toyer will be a really good player
this year. I think the way he's trained the last
couple of weeks where I've been back is I don't know,
training like he's played fifty plus games, you know what

(44:28):
I mean. I feel like he'll just be a safe
option out there in center. Who else? There's a good
young backrower called Celestie. I think it's for Ketty Celestie. Yeah,
he's a he's a weapon, and I feel like if
he gets an opportunity this year, he'll he'll take it
and run with it. And there's a good crafty young
hooker as well, Corbin I, who's been training really well

(44:50):
as well.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
Do you feel like I know you're only twenty eight,
but do you feel now like with you know, especially
like Kiri and Jared, do you feel like you're like
the old head?

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Yeah, proper. I feel like there's a there's a bunch
of us now where we've sort of sat at that
level where you've always had Cares, Jazz, Teddy, they're sort
of the more senior guys, and now that those guys
are sort of taking off as a yeah, I guess
there's more of an onus on us and I think

(45:21):
much will change for us. But definitely starting to feel
old when these kids that are born in two thousand
and four aren't eighteen anymore.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
It goes so quickly.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
You're still still to us.

Speaker 4 (45:31):
It feels like if you were born in the two,
like two thousand, it's crazy you're young. But now there's
people like two thousand and five, two thousand and six
that are starting to come in.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Jesus crazy when you're born in nineteen seventy one my language.
But like in the blackslow semi walker like he'll come
back from an acl but a year older, which makes
a massive difference in some of those players. But I
guess the other one too. We spoke about having the
underdog mentality. These people say, don't listen to the outside noise,
but it does seep. Being can't help sleep in and

(46:01):
you've blow twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four almost started
the season. Its favorites or may have for this year.
To sit and there right out start in the season
fifteen to one must it is a good feeling. It
gives you that extra little bit of steel.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
Yeah, I think the pressures on us, I feel like
people are countless out. People are sort of saying that
we're going to struggle this year. But I think with
the way that I feel like we're training and building,
and yeah, the guys that we've got coming in, the
guys that we've had feeling these positions, I feel like
it'll be a really well balanced team that's ready to
work hard and hopefully win some good games.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
It's the time to play loan, survive and to finish
off coops. Are any final questions you'd like to flow it? Angus?

Speaker 4 (46:42):
Can I ask one more question before while you prepared,
Dad's got another segment that he's done for you as well.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
It's not as hard as to have to do.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
This is to find out your greatest team made a
club level.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
Yes, but last year you guys were probably the last
two years with the squad, there's always been the outside
noise of like, oh, that's the rooster's year, like they're
going to win it. This year, especially last year in particular.
But beever, we've a lot had a lot of injuries,
long term injuries.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
How is it this year?

Speaker 4 (47:08):
I suppose there's going to be there's a lot less
expectation on you guys.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
I just asked this question, would just suggest.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
I would say it was pretty close, pretty close.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
But I want to get is it's a direct question, right,
A lot less expectation on you guys. Do you think
you'll thrive better with less expectation or internally do you
guys still have that?

Speaker 3 (47:25):
I think internally we've still got super expectations. I think
I like what made he said.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Felt it was pretty much the same question.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
I'll answer it for him.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
You can't do it again, answer it again? Two is
one mouth Son.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
We've got some really good young kids coming through.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Marcelo Monty.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
There's an echo.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
All right, loan survive and go through elimination.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
We're going to find out who your greatest teammate is.
So each time I'll give you two players, select one
and he'll all forward. Okay, Luke Kerery or Cody Walker, Kerry,
Luke Kry Or Adam Reynolds, Luke Kerey, Victor Bradley Luke
Kerey or Cooper.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Kronk Oh Coops Sorry, okay.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
Cooper chroncleed Joey Marnoo Coops. Okay, Cooper Kronk call La
troll Mitchell.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
I'm gonna what what is this like legacy stuff? Or
is this like big game? Or you mate?

Speaker 1 (48:31):
You just player? You're running onto the field. Okay, he's
a big one. Cooper kron called Greg Ingliss.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
Oh God, that's different players, you know what I mean?
But if Cooper's in your team, you're probably gonna win.
But Greg is the freakiest guy I've ever played with
in my life.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
So I'm going to go with Greg, Greg englis Or
James Tedisco, Greg Gregoring, Listle Sam Burgess, Greg Gregor lest
Or j W H. Jazz Okay, greatest teammate.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
Yeah did you know that prior to come in if
somebody had asked you, he's the greatest player you've ever
played with?

Speaker 1 (49:17):
You say, j wh your best teammate?

Speaker 3 (49:19):
Yeah, well, Jazz is like Greg's a freak by Jazz
is I know as a forward, maybe I've got that
admiration for Jazz because the physical side of it, whereas
Greg can just do stuff that no one else can do. Yeah,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
So going through that list, it is amazed some of
the blakes you played alongside Boider on there too, boy yeah,
Sunny Build, some of the ones that left out. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
No, it's crazy when you sit back here now and
sort of came into the league. I guess finished school
twenty fourteen, first preseason end of fourteen started fifteen and
ten years ago. Now, it's like it's crazy to sit
back and think whether where the hell did that time going?
And then the caliber of players you're lifting off there
to be able to lace up alongside them and share

(50:05):
the field with them, it's pretty specially even just thinking
about it, I'll.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
See what quite seriously, as you get all of life
accelerates too, so make the most of it. It's a
lesson for us all. What was that a way to finish? Confusing?

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Just quick before we let you go that too, because
you weren't a part of that back to back the
first ros.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
I was at South and Aiden when we lost to
Roosters in the prelim.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
Yeah, and then the year after you went there in
two thousand and nine, and we're a part of that
back to back series. But what was that first impression,
like when you first went to Roosters after they won
the comp with Cooper Crounk there.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
Yeah, it was, it was. It was while going in
there after they won. Obviously Cooper is signed. There so
many guys at the peak of the game, Jazz Orbo,
Gary Boido. So for me, I was I think I
would have been twenty three heading in there, just keen
to learn, eager to buy and become a part of
the culture. And even at the start of my career there,

(51:03):
I had to work really hard to try and get
into that team. And I have my ups and my downs,
but yeah, it was. It was a good year and
that's just something I want to do again.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Time does go quick, and I see as you get
all the life does accelerate, so enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Yeah, and you've got dementia.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Yeah, he's got real short memory.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
I was just trying to put the button on you.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Now, look, now's your time.

Speaker 4 (51:25):
We're in the end of the podcast. Is there anything
you want to plug because you've got the barbershop a
c flow yeah over in BONDI but you warn that yeah, yeah, yeah,
he's the first barbershop owner.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Who's got who's got no.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
Hair, actually not the first. There's plenty of around.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
It's ironic.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
It'd be like Cooper opening a gym, mad All, like.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
You opening a barbershop.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Right, you've got to count the your original brother originally
losing your hand plug the plugs. Yeah, but still get
calls from advanced here. You know, make we can fix
your plugs. I say, god, they're not real plugs.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
Speaking of hea, do you see fishes hair?

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Yeah, fishes fishes incredible.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
He looks really good. It does like he's looks well.
One of our mates, Maddie Lodge, has got he's actually
looked really good too. Some of them you can tell
that they've got plugs. But like lodges and fishes.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Yea for thought, food for thought, plenty of food for thought,
plenty of food.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
How's your hair under that? You got that?

Speaker 2 (52:34):
It's long?

Speaker 1 (52:35):
It's good.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Mine's not going, I swear, but I'll make sure I
head over to a c flow for a.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
Haircut if I do need one.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
Get in there.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
And apparently this happens, it goes quick. Let me see
one day the next day you wake it up until
you're pushing it down the drain.

Speaker 4 (52:50):
But there's also rumors that you've been getting around on
an e bike?

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Yeah, you brought a new e bike.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
No, they hooked it up, which is good.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Oh really do you want to plug it?

Speaker 3 (52:59):
I hit my targets, get down to get thrill. Get
yourself a ghost cat people bikes.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Ghost cat?

Speaker 3 (53:07):
Why are going to any other bike when you've been
cruise around on a ghost cart? Wow? Is that their
slogan ghost cat? No, it's just called a ghost cat.
Isn't that a good name for a But it's such
a good name, ghost cat. Surely get the boys on
some ghost carts. That's why you brought it up. You
guys want to get a ghost cat up in here?
They are Do you want to go?

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Do you want a ghost cat?

Speaker 1 (53:25):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (53:26):
It's an e bike? That is Gussie is the new
ambassador for No?

Speaker 6 (53:30):
No?

Speaker 3 (53:30):
Actually so Jerome got one. I commented on the ambassadors
in the East and then I got one son one
in the north. You do I think it could be good?

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Yeah, ghost cat. Let's look it up. Let's so what
we can do. Get that out there on a bike.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Look forward to it. Thanks boys, coming over, brother