April 13, 2025 • 52 mins
Hello Sports 'Tom & Eddy' to chat with Cooper & Matty about cricketing legends, coaches playing mind games, mysterious wombat holes, and their love for the great Billy Birmingham. Classic dribble. Iconic nonsense.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Right, guys. Episode two with Tom and Eddie the hollow
Sport Boys and uh, this is terrific. The boys going
to talk to us about their really big breakthrough moments
as far as the podcast concerned, and some great stories
in particularly great story about this man here, Jimmy Barnes enjoy.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I don't give you a high chair for you. He
wants to stand, Okay, I respect that.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
James Magnuson, who's a terrific love him mate. And the
fact coming on telling you Blakesworth the enhanced com.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, yeah, well that was good. We were We've actually
broken a couple of massive news.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Stories, huge ones.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
The Nathan Clear Nathin Clarry Mary Fowler. We broke that.
He even said as much the other day. He was
in there for another podcast and he was like, yeah,
you guys, you guys fucking blew that story.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Because it was a tiny little there was a tiny little.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Five sentence article in the newspaper about how him and
Mary Fowler had gone for ice cream.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And after a sponsored event, Yes, after a sponsor event.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
It was down.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
How it starts, It just goes for ice cream out.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
The Belgian waffles.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
There's no friendly ice cream.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
But on the on missile.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
I think we're just having a conversation because I was saying, listen,
it's all well and good to say, oh, it's going
to get people to dope and they're going to break times,
and like, that's not really.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
How it works.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
You need you need to have you need to be
a thoroughbred. Yeah that then dopes, then you're likely to
break a record.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
It doesn't.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
You can't just take yourself, for example, and turn you
into the fastest man in the world.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
He turned him into d C. It's proven experiment.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
It didn't work everyone because you're sitting right across from.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
But it was amazing when we were in Paris together
because we went we were doing podcasts every night together,
you know. So we'd be walking along and of all
the the stuff and controversies around and enhanced games, and
he was one of the few people to put his
hand up everyone but believing behind the scenes there's lots
of people bumping him. So we'd be walking into the
pool area and you get a Brazilian or an American
swimmer come up, So James, how you're doing, and they
(01:59):
walked it. He pulled them aside and just he he
was asking about the yeah work, what have you been promised?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
It's an interesting concept. Like I we've always been like,
obviously the Olympics is what it is, but it's it's
sort of I feel like people just have a warped
idea of like what it means. It's not like you're
just some raucous steroid juice and it's like this is
specificity training and like everything's properly document You're not just
getting needles in your ass in a car park, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Like, yeah, it's administered by doctors as hell possibly can be.
But so on the podcast, we were asking that question
about do you need to be good to then open
break recause he's one hundred percent yeah. And then he said,
by the way, I'll take a million dollars and get involved,
Like if you want me to get involved, I'll do
it for a million dollars, and they offered it to him.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, And I went from the.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I mean the juice is it's the cream on top. Yeah,
I mean that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
You got to saw a photo him the other day.
I said, he a damn. I was like, hey, you're
looking and he sent bag a photo and I was like,
holy it's you.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Know, this is the right. He had to go over
to train because he couldn't train in any pools in
around Sydney. Not for the reason because the Enhanced Games.
They wouldn't let him dive in. Why they wouldn't because
it's the rules.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
The rules of.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Pools now is that you can't rules. And he went
to him and said, guys nor Sidney pools, said fucking
James Magnuson, like I've been. I've been to two Olympics,
you know, one day come with gold medal and well limits,
I said, no, the rules of rules, you can't.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So what if they know you're doping, you just can't
get in the water.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
No, no, no, it was that wasn't a problem. The
problem was when he was training for his free starts
diving off the blocks, don't they don't let you but.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Because of because of neck injuries.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Because the neck injuries, it's a new policy. So even
regards really could have been Mark Spitz turn up there
or the other you know you.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Can, So how does anyone train for Hougen band?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
You can you can go to one of those guys.
You can't go to a public pool and literally dive
in off the blocks anymore? There you can ye far out,
So he got it's the truth.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Story that does.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
It just doesn't sound right, not true, Jack, Jack shaking
his head.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I'll what is that now?
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I'm telling Jack's going to google it?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, you can tell. I'm going to text missile now
straight from the hall.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
The rules of pools from Missile bring him the ruler
pool continue.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
So yeah, right, that's so.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Bizarre, idiot. Can Jack's just google? Can you dive into
a swimming pool in Australia that's what you should expect? Yes, yes, yes, yeah,
but that doesn't really make a little sense because how
is anyone ever going to prepare unless you had a
swimming pool at home?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Oh y, yes, and those sort of places where so
you can only go to the proper training facilities rather
than the.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Proper trainer and all that sort of stuff. You can,
but you can't just go and turn up on yourself
and stand on the blocks and dive anymore.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
That is you know where it's at. Within handscake, because
I heard it wasn't even going to go ahead.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I think they're making a documentary about it. I'm pretty
sure it's going ahead, but it might just be like
being delayed. Like I think they were like it's on
next year. I think it's a bit more going into
it now.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
I like the idea of even because obviously athletes want
the glory of the Olympics, right, you should be trying
to attract people that are about to retire.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Go you've had the Olympics, You've.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Had your moment, it might have won your gold medal,
you've made a final, whatever, Go another four years, go
another two years, dope to the dope to the gills
and try and break records, you know, like a small
window before you retire. I think that's the because they
get people in their prime, but you don't. That's Sally
the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Noah Lyles, no Liles, here's the gold.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
He's a sprinter.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah. Well they went to him and his thing was, well,
you know, I'm the peak of my powers. I'm not
going to juice, and they went, you don't have to.
It's called the enhanced gains. But you don't have to juice.
You can go there as a clean athlete and cost
the other guys. So it's the enhanced Games. But if
you're a clean athlete and you're an Olympian They offered
(05:55):
apparently big money to be a part of it. I
don't have to juice, but it very interesting is if
the Enhanced Games was to go ahead, at some point
suddenly blokes start running nine point five seconds for one hundred,
breaking world records left, right and center. What does that
do to the Olympics problem?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Are you going to be happy watching a guy run
nine point nine to five and get the gold medal?
Or you just kind of got these guys are fucking
reserved greatest. It's like turning up to a state of
origin game and it's instead they go New South Welles
Cup players and you're going, yeah, well, I don't.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Understand why you can't like if it's all. If it's all,
I feel like the reason that steroids is like seen
as negative is because there was a period there where
it was just like chaotically innistead and it was again
car park stuff. But if it's now like a safe,
medically observed thing that can be done, then everyone play
(06:49):
runs on it. Let's fucking rip. Yeah, let's see how
quick we can go? What are we doing?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
I would like to see how quick we could go? Yeah,
that's always intrigued me.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
So if we locked there in this room now for
the next six months and just started jabbing up and
they weren't out in the street and just said, right.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Let's all for them us juice for a year and
then come back here and.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Can we break I don't think.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
I don't think to do anything for that.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Absolutely again, you gotta be you gotta have it.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Yeah, yeah, that reckon.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
It does amazing things for the sex drive that could
be a problem. Don't bolt the doors. But when you play,
when you play rugby league, right and will we got
to round about that, guys. You know you knew you'd
be playing against guys who were ducing and when you
tackle them, our fucking hell, you could tell the difference.
They're like, they're that hard. It is literally like tackling
the side of the building.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Is it possible to do in the today today's game?
I reckon there would be players that are like.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Running the gauntlet. Yeah, probably would be Tom, Probably would.
I think in every sport there would be.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
There is always someone.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
I think it'd be more in a to answer your question,
it'd be more in a capacity. They did it around
that sort of eighteen to twenty mark before they became
first graders.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
So I helped them to get there, but build the base.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
It's not sustainable to be doing it like when you're
in there, because there's just too much testing.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah right, Ok, Like Cherry, I sent it to Missile
Evans Cherry right, evens juicy, that's a scoop, Missile. Is
it true that one of the reasons you went overseas
is that you weren't allowed to dive off the blocks
at a public pool? And he come back, Yeah, Magice,
(08:31):
that's true.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
There you go straight from the horses, straight from the missiles.
You have to say, Jack, you're wrong there, miss.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Can we doubt it?
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Yeah, you took that very personally.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I love it now.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
I love the extreme you went to just to do it. Yeah,
all right, so no one diving in public pool.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
But that is insane. That's like an insane I didn't
know that.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Have you been Have you ever been approached to do
breakfast radio show? Because I tell you what, there's some
fucking blood is going kids speaks. I mean, you guys
are the uppers one, but there's shows.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
No, we've never been. We've never been approached to do anything.
I think we would. We did stuff with sc N
a couple of years ago. But we were always like,
we don't want to do a show. We just did out.
We did interviews, and then we put them across. They
were We didn't we didn't curtail our swearing, so I
think that probably got a little bit they got a
bit jack of that. When I was just.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Listened to these like Wednesday night interviews, the one with
Willie Mason was just it was bad and it was
just like.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
It was almost inaudible.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
I couldn't listen to it.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yeah, it was ridiculous, like what are we paying for?
I think what the cinema must have been.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I can imagine the radio executives going, great chow really fun.
I mean laughed a.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Lot of the stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
However, Yeah, we used to have our poster meetings all
the time. Great show. Loved it.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
However, there's always a bite did they actually review? Did
they do like it? They call it an air check?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Did they edu know? So we would record him in
our studio, maybe even when you were on ours. I'm
not sure if that was when we're still doing them,
but we'd record him in the studio and then we'd
record for long we chat for then we'd chop it
down to a forty minute radio thing. It'd go on
radio first beeps to Jesus, and then it'd go on
our podcast unedited on the weekend. But like after Mason's won,
(10:27):
someone put in the Punters and Dribblers Willy Mason's fucks
per minute, and like listen to the whole thing and
just counted every time he said fuck. And then over
the course of the episode, how that broke down.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I'm sometimes I think with justin horror level. Sometimes Willy
just goes starts going hard. I'm looking and I'm watching Scope,
just going, oh God, slip out a vision.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
It's funny. Remember when you talking about the fox per minute?
Remember when Brandon We had Brandon Smith on the podcast
last week and one of the great characters, but we
were talking of out. Remember when he shign he left Storm,
went to the Roosters and he went on a podcast
and he was Lucy Goosey on that, very open about
the whole situation. But I think it was buzz or
radio was Dean Richie. Dean Richie listened to it and
(11:14):
broke a story breaking down how many f words he
said podcastwards, and then I think maybe the.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah he was beside himself. He was what's the game
come to?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I'm looking forward to seeing Brandon at South.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, I reckon whay it to'll get him gone.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
He'd all get him going. It was sorry so popular.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I didn't think.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I didn't and like you know, Eddie and I are
far from rugby league ex first, I didn't think he
was going that bad. Just before he got injured, I
thought he was going good. It was like he was
kind of it was he was actually going all right.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
I thought last year, yeah, last year, that first year
was tougher, and I think last year was real came
into his own yeah, and I think the whole team
did that. I think they started to play real good
brand of foot and then him and Sam Walker did
that in the.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Same game, and I thought both of them were coming
on leaps and bounds together. It was a really big
blowpat He just like there's certain blokes that you just
looking back in hindsight, Brandon Roosters is just something that
doesn't quite fit there. Brandon's his natural nature of what
he's like and taking the piece out of coaches and
people just had they feel where with Wayne like he'll
(12:20):
be in a short period of time, Wayne's favorite. He's
exactly a Wayne type of player and a South Sydney
type of player. We're talking him here. He's done on
belly Ache, and I reckon, when you see that Apple
TV show on belly Ache that you wondered like, I
thought it was really interesting to see even the you
guys at the club, like Ellie taking the piss out
(12:42):
of belly Ache. I reckon, that says a lot about
a club and a coach.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
You can do that.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Yeah, Yeah, that.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Was a good When they Lugg's.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Still there said, I said, you know, like taking the
piss out of belly Ache, and I think that a lot.
I mean, Coops just said he didn't say, Melissa do anyway,
but it just sort of shows that the different cultures
between the two clubs, not saying ones right, ones bad,
right and wrong. But you said I did do it
to Robbo and he went, oh no, I don't do that, Robber.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Yeah on the back, we should have cut it out.
On the baggage claim. That's his pet hate, belly Like
if his bag's not if he's always the last bag
out or it doesn't come, he gets so angry the boys.
I remember one day it didn't show up. We're sitting there.
We just got beat by Penrith or something up here
(13:36):
and we were going back and we're sitting there and
everyone was there was a couple of bags that didn't come,
and everyone was like, please let belly ACH's bag come
because he's in the worst mid already. And he was
just sitting there and you know how like when the
camera flashes were in the box and he's always just
like biting his lips like really angrily to stop himself
from gone. But he was dead sit chewing his lips off,
and we were like no, and then it never came.
(13:58):
So we were sitting on get like a little shuttlebust
back to where cars are parked, and the only seat,
the only spare seat, was in the back seat next
to BELLIEC and there was so I'm like shit. So
I'm sitting next to him and he's just fooming and
I was just looking. And then there was a massive
road detour so it's going to take another twenty minutes
(14:19):
into the car and he's just fuming. And then I
the whole place was so tense. There was no music,
no radio on the sholve and I go to him
when it rains at pause a.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
And all the boys looked.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
All the boys looked back, and he looked at me,
and I was looking at him on the side though,
and he goes, well, it must be fucking stormy. Funny
thing about what you said about the roosters though before
saying Brandon wasn't A didn't seem like that kind of
player I was. After we recalled the potty, I got
thinking and I was like, when you go comparing Melbourne
(14:52):
and Roosters, Melbourne's very much if you work hard on
the field, it doesn't really matter what kind of personality
you are, what you're like off the field. It's you know,
you can bring all types in and it's just they
treat everyone to be an individual. However, they are roosters
to me, and I don't know the inner sanctum of
the joint, so it's only me looking from the outside.
(15:13):
It seems like a kind of place where if you
went there, you kind of conform to their system, the
rooster way, you.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (15:20):
It very much seems like that to me.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Why does everyone these days every club has the way
come up something different, the Newcastle system, Everything's like everyone's
got a way.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
System and a hashtag of what season is all about?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Everyone's got a center of excellence. I mean really some
of the clubs should you really call a center of excellence?
I mean center of mediocrity?
Speaker 5 (15:44):
And who came up with that name? Why is that even?
Why is it always a center of excellence?
Speaker 4 (15:48):
It would have started with one and then everyone's like,
jes that sounds so.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
My old coach from the Knights, Malcolm really manly, complete
legend manly. He's just been diagnosed with cancer spinal cords.
So to bring that, I'm going to bring things down.
But he was the best coach we ever had because mate,
although we fucking trained hard and he ran a pretty
tough operation, everyone knew where he stood, never played a
(16:15):
mind game with everyone, respected everyone. As long as you
worked hard, you could be whatever you want to be.
And I think that were the happiest years of my
playing career playing under Malcolm. We never trained, never trained
as hard anywhere as we did that year, but it
was fucking fun. It was good. You could turn up
to train every every day and be yourself. I can
only imagine turn it up at a team where it's
(16:35):
got a uniform culture. You have to everyone's got a
I would it sort of doesn't even make sense.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I would have always thought that was kind of the
vibe if you train hard, do everything you need to do,
and then it's like.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Oh, make crack. I've heard stories of other clubs where
a coach will say to a young player, heymte, get ready,
you're in this week he'll ring. There was one player
who rang his family. His family flew from from Sydney
up up to fucking Brisbane to watch his ol playing
the Broncos. Halfway through the one, the coach captain goes,
you've just learned how to prepare for the game you're
(17:08):
at eh men? Oh my, what those ruthless that those
stories are quite common. Really, Yes, you'ven't.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
What about my family? Yeah mate, they get it now.
They get now to get efficiently through the Vagan Airport.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
The family mate, you know they've sold the car and
the family dogs. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Wow, that's crazy. That seems like such a overkill, like
like you're overthinking your job here a bit like when
you're doing that to someone.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Well, some of them like in this way actually works better.
Some of them just wait right up until like the
day of the game to tell them they're actually playing,
and I think that actually works well as god because
you don't get the nervousness through the week. But sometimes
they've had to tell the parents on the day of
the game to get down here now, and they're like,
should work.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's different. But again I think that
feels a little better than run up here and yeah yeah,
Like it's in the best interest of the player because
I think he's going to be sweet.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Like on your coach right, who he had an international
player in his team, right, and this this guy is
one of the biggest legends at the club. And this
coach come in who was notorious like and playing mind
games and started texting him saying, oh have you seen
this young guy who's coming through? Better watch your back.
The coach was to this season nationals and season Nationals
(18:30):
came back and he was like, you never underestimate people's
and securities. He was like going to people, going, man,
I'm get these texts and the what the hell's going on?
And he just kept going at him and goinating him
all the time, and he going, what is the point?
Joey had a coach once. I love this story. This
is great. Joey to coach once when Joey's sort of
getting towards the end of Newcastle and the coach got
(18:52):
there and said, and he's in the coach was he
used to like to put everyone in their place. So
you got Joey there, who's Philly, He's just say a
free spirit and did whatever he wanted. So the casual
what can I do here to sort of push Joey
a little bit, you know, push him down a little bit? Yes,
right too?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Right?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Everyone coming, what we're gonna do? Everyone have a bit
of a crack. I mean, Joey kicks off, but you know,
is he the best? Is he the best person to
kick off? Let's run through and have a go anyway,
So everyone's sort of kicking everyone's going where the's going anyway?
Daniel Abraham shoot up and Abes just went fucking whack, mate,
thirty meters hang time, you know, thirty hang time coming down,
(19:30):
And the case just turned and said, I'm sorry, Joey,
You're not only kicking out. Ames was kicking off, and
Joey goes, what the funk? Would I care? Won three
golden boots and three day ms.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Yeah I don't care, mate, Yeah, anyway, get him get
him back to the.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Podcast for a sect. Shane Keith Productions. Yes, so that's
your guys production company, right, Well, that's the that's.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
The company that I sort of that's the name of
the company.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
And then the business is Hello Sport, but it's now
it's actually now Pipe Dreams Media as of a couple
of weeks.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Really, Yes, Shane Keith Productions was named pre Shane the
death of Shane Keith Warn. So it was an homage
to Shane. Then he passed away, and so we've always
underneard about it, like I don't.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Know, it sort of also was like it was just
it was when it was just us, and now there's
like a few other shows that are in and amongst
the universe, and so like with Jarchi and We meanwhile
and that, like when you're like trying to sell that
show from a Shane Keith Productions, it just feels a
little bit like it felt a little bit like who
the fuck are these people?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Did to meet Warning?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
No, I spoke to him for like two seconds on
a phone call when I was like a producer, and
he was lovely for those two seconds. Yeah, but no,
it was it was it was. The main thing was
like it feels a bit like uncool to be Shane
Key eating it. So we and pipe Dreams is the
name of our first ever episode that we recorded when
we were like, we were just always like fucked on
(21:06):
the podcast, which I'll be a pipe dream, pipe dream,
pipe dreams. So we called the first episode pipe dreams,
and we're like, what are we going to drink? Recorded
on a laptop on garage band, flicking through the newspaper.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah, flicking through the newspaper.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
That's the genesis of drilling.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Just on warning. And isn't it fucking crook? How now
sudden he's pasted. He's still got his kids here, he's
still got family around, and people are digging up saying
when he died he had this. Honestly, let's leave it, mate.
The bloke has passed. Let let him and his loved
ones just yeah, let let it go.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
We would not believe that article I read the other.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Well, we intentionally didn't talk about it as well. We
were just like, yeah, you know, like if you hear
that story about someone living, that's our bread and butter.
I'm like give you that. But you're just like this
is really unnecessary ship to be dreaded, particularly.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
So long after, Like it's it's just they've resurfed it
like about three for all three four years. Yeah, yeah,
it felt like two years ago.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
What a horrendous time. Can remember Rod Marsh passed and
Dean Jones. Dean Jones just before that Roy and then
mate Simon was Warning and then Henry Simon if we
saw We see Roy all the time in at Fox Sports.
As you mean, Jack had a night out with you.
It's fantastic. Yeah, anyway, he's such a great plate. And
(22:28):
just after Warning, we're at Fox Sports. We were sitting there,
we had a long chat about you know, Warning and
shortly straight after Roy that.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Was terrible, terrible, The whole thing was. It was awful.
But I think we actually did something for Ko at
that point as well. And we spoke to him not
long after Warning, and it was just again we didn't
know him, but it was fucking Andrew Simon's and just yeah,
you saw like his family and his daughter or that
whole thing. It's just like it was a very very
heavy time.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
We're that one night there was myself Fletch Fletcher's made
beast Cat and Roy and Beast and Roy. So we
had a good crew going and we went to make
the manly boat. You had to finish with as you
do winners, do you anyway? Bands playing and Roy's guys going.
(23:17):
Has anyone got any requests? I remember Roy going. It
was a Billy Joel, didn't he And this bloke went
Billy Joel man. He goes yeah, Roy Simons, yeah, Billy
Jarl and this bloke this dead ship next to Roy
goes fuck Billy Joel.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
And Roy went fuck you and Jack goes leak, it's
time to go.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
When Jack was driving, and Jack drove Roy all the
way back to the casino, right, and every time I'd
see that he was young bloke.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
He's good.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Good for doing that.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
That's very good time.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
What did he have against Billy Joe bloke?
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Yeah, yeah, Billy the most innocent singer of all the Yeah,
that's you also saying it to Roy.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah, that's right. What are we doing?
Speaker 4 (24:02):
What do we do? It?
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Talk about dribblers.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
You can get some.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
If you've been down to the boat shed past midnight,
you can get those characters.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Yeah, that's when the dribblers out there.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, it's dribbler hours.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I once found a wallet right at the boatshed. I
have had four hundred bucks sooner, What do I do
with you? What do I do?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
What do I do?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
And I thought I'll do the right thing. So I
walked up on the bar and I went, Hey, how
you doing. I've just found this wallet and the woman
goes yeah, and I said, I just want to as
you went, I don't know, just take it in. I
thought myself, like, that wallet is not going to go
back to it.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Than said, some of the podcasts underneath your production company,
how did they come about? You said, what do you mean? Well,
did you guys go and kind of your new judgment
at university? Did you guys sort of say, oh, do
you want to do a podcast? Or did he to
you and say, I'd love to do a podcast under
you guys? How do you find the talent for it?
Speaker 4 (25:03):
We had sort of We've been telling him to do it,
close to Beggs, just to do a podcast for years.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
I like, bro', you'd be unreal. You've got to do
a partty, gotta do a partty, go to party.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Finally he's like, okay, I'll do one, and they're like, well,
who do you want to do it with, and he'd
sort of just recently at that point met Louisa, who
he does it with, and that had a good chemistry.
They've done a couple of TikTok videos to you. He's like,
I think it could be fun to do it with her.
So we got him in for a few trials, and
then after like six months they were pumping.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
One of the biggest things a lot about them both.
You both have known each other, Yeah, forever. These guys
are my seed. Makes it easy, but to meet someone
and then straight afterwards sort of jump into a podcast. Yeah,
it says a lot about them.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
But they both like knowing Jars. It's like he's so
funny and he's like a performer and that he's open,
you know, like he doesn't he just sort of goes
with the flow and he's like it's one of the
things I like, respect it or appreciate about him. Lou's
actually exactly the same loud the way she is in
that show. You're like, she does these fucking karaoke things
where she comes in and she dresses up as Elvis
(26:05):
or as Britney Spears and goes get commits to the
bit and does like a full fucking lip sync of it,
and you're like, that's the energy. I think you need
a little bit to be able to just like hit
it off straight away. But I mean it's it's also
not that easy. We got lucky, like where everyone got
lucky in that situation there with them, like they were
perfect for each other and we just finally got charged
(26:27):
to fucking commit.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
To do something.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
But it was, it was it was nice to see
when you're sort of like, you know, big nights of like, mate,
you'd be unbelievable, but I've got a good eye for talent, man,
But so it was rewarding to see that work. We've
got another podcast. You wouldn't they approached us, these two
(26:51):
young twenty five year olds ones will give.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
It would be very funny. Yeah, yeah, both of them
very fun.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Given Pat Clifton fucking funny, unhing sort of jam and
woose loose topics, very loose.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Let's just say they wouldn't be approached by a breakfast radio. No,
the whole thing would be beat hilarious with.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
The two blokes on today. Did they come out of
the podcast?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Well, Jimmy and Naith, Yeah, I know they I know
they do the breakfast show on Today FM. I don't
know if they will podcast first or if they do
a podcast now. I think they.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
I think they may have Tasmanian Jackson.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I mean, is that really does that really count? As
far as.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
They're starting to make moves The Tasmanian Devils New AFL
team mascot, the mascot Dad. Maybe it's gonna be the
scariest thing. Imagine your kid there in that mascot.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
It's made out of old like school shoes or something like,
what are we doing just make a mascot? What the fuck?
We're out at the eels mascots crook as well? Yeahs
like a fur No, it's a human. Yeah, apparently it's
like a dude with like a man. Got a rabbit
on it as well.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Loop the beans and ship age.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
Yeah, while we're on Paramount, remember when I saw you
guys at the Paramatta game.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, when we got the limo. I remember out there,
got a limo with us after the game.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
I rove back to tell about the story because he
wouldn't have heard this before.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
So we we went into Manly at one point to
like they just I think we were filming content like
a pre season media Day and we went into there
like games hangout room. They had a PlayStation four and
there's currently a PlayStation five out and we were like,
that's not fucking good enough.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
That's not You've got to remember as well. We merely
had been at narrabeen. They trained out of the demandables.
No one had a shower, like, it was all just
a bit bowing, a bit budget.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
We needed it, we.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Needed to give it. Well, now they're in the center
of excellence, Yes, we need to give them something that
is that matches the center of excellence. So we went
and bought them at PS five, got them like games
controllers and we got we got like what's it called,
We got getting skins. We had like our print of
us over the PlayStation and on the controller. Isn't it
just me and Eddie with Manly thirteen.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Plus took us chumps like four durs together and actually it.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Was it was a monk. So then we go all right,
like when can we give it to them? And the
media manager we organized it and was like, oh man,
he's playing para at Paramatta Combank. We were out there
to do a catch the ball at halftime thing or whatever,
and it was like you can give it to boys
after game because we mad in the shep we.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Get in a picny basket. It's got cellar phae.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah, it was like a hamper with a fucking place.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
And let me tell you something, it was the wrong
game to give.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
They got pup.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
It was the wrong in the sheep.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah. We were standing in the sheds like fucking maker
Wish kids afterwards, and everyone's walking in just fuming.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Like someone had died walking at one point just stared
at it.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
And in the end we were just like we could
probably just fucking put it down here, and.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
They're like, no, no, just wait for Jake, Just wait
for Jakie, I wait for a play.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
We're like, oh, it was we offloaded. Jake's such a sweetheart.
It's like he'll smile after anything, and you just like
he was there were like mat.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
We read the club the other day. We went to
check it was still there.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Still there, stick is still on. I thought they might
have peeled some stickers off after a couple of harsh
comments from us, but I still kept it on.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
Yeah, but then after the game, because yeah, we had.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Sometimes we like to like limos are obviously very ostentatious
and stupid, and that's like when we think, we like
we like to get him for the most unnecessary. Yeah,
so we got a limo from the studio out to combat.
We like that fucking real cheap champagne and there's always
a cheap bottle of champagne and a bottle of Fanta.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
That's like the bottle of Limo Mane was so good.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
And so we're just like, so we went out there
and then afterwards, did you come back with us? Or
did you? Because it was we got out of there.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
I was just walking to my car and I came
out at the wrong side of the stadium when I've
seen these guys like the head out of the limo
just like it was park like they were just like
dancing out at the top of the sun roof and
I was like, what's going on here? And they go coobs.
But then the weird thing was the driver of this limo,
Like he must have been the only Cooper John's fan
(31:24):
in the hole of Paramount of that day.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
He was the biggest Cooper Johns fan as well.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
He was I was like, I thought I was going
to get abducted. He was like, he goes, what the
hell and like put his handbake on and runs out
and I'm like trying to talk to the boys, and
he was just like relentless. He goes, you got to
he goes, you got to come in my limo, and
I'm like, in your limo. But then remember he was
like put your head out the sun roof and was
taking He made him stand out and I just wanted
(31:53):
to go home, and he was just like taking pictures
of me. And then he goes, can someone take a picture.
I'm going to get in there too, And this limo
visualize this. It was like it was like an awkward
size of limos. So it wasn't like the giant limousine.
It was like just big enough to call it a limo,
but it wasn't a limo. So he's come in the
sun roof and it was a tiny sun roof and
(32:13):
he's like squeezing next to me. We're like basically face
to face, and he's like, remember I had a beer
which he'd made me hold, and he was like, give
me give me the beer. Can you pretend to pour
it into my mouth?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
It was it was it was like train wreck ship
where we were just like talking to and there like wait,
what's what's the Limo driving to? What the fuck is
this super weird? He's having to stand up there with
the guy. I'd forgotten about that driver.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Dad. It was relentless Limos fun. There's nothing says like
you're on a mission.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
We're a big fan of Limo.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
We're in New York for the Grill Team. Once me
and Mark Guyer we get off Jackie, were you there?
Remember that Jackson nor in the way he was, so
we get off. He hasn't got a micy keep keeps
throwing were randled. We'll get to the airport and it's madness.
Everyone's coming on there, front and center. And this guy
goes it boys, you want to lift them? And I went, oh,
where are you from, brother, and he said, I'm from
Guyana And I went, oh, the home of Jeffrey du Jon.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Who is he?
Speaker 1 (33:16):
A wiki twam for the west Is. He goes, yeah,
do you know Jeffrey? I know him very well, and
he goes, no problem coming the car. So we hopping
the Limmo and I'm thinking fuck hell, like okay, and
he's driving going, oh, man, I can't believe you know Jeffrey.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
You know, how do you know him?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
And I'm just making up this ship anyways, going, guys,
is Kangnac in the back. Just help yourself. We're you
just sculling the Kangnac. And then we arrive and I said,
he goes, no, no, no, any friend of Jeffrey's.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
No was going to give you.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
I will say you. Matthew's party trick is he has
a fact or knowledge about every place on Earth. So
whenever we travel, things like that just tend to happen
because he's skilled himself geographically on everywhere. So you can
strike up a conversation or bloods his way through a
convos sometimes like that, we'll get a free of them
with anyone, like all the time. You pride yourself on that.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
And there's other tricks too. My other, my other gift
has been taught myself into restaurants.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Oh really.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
So Tricia and I were in Vancouver and someone said, so,
where's good and where's a good meal? They said, Italian
just around the corner here. It is classed as probably
the best Italian in all of Canadates. We're going, wow, okay, fantastic.
Can you a book? And they said, I can't get
in it? Like literally six months I've gone, ah yeah,
and Tricia's very straight down the line, you know, yeah Italian,
(34:40):
you know what I mean. And she and I said, dohorry,
let's just turn up. She has oh no, no, Dad,
I said, just trust me. So anyway, I walk into
the restaurant and I'm up on my toes and hey, guys,
how are you? And they going Oho, sir, how are
you like? They're taking am back? I said, I am.
I'm just over the moon. I booked this twelve months ago.
(35:01):
It's my wife and it's twenty fifth and when an anniversary,
she goes, oh, and you picked here? I said, yes,
we're picked to you. So it's okay, what is this
table for? It was table too John's. She goes, let
me just check it. She goes down, just hold on
one second, and she goes out the back next to it.
She comes and goes, oh, there it is there. Actually
(35:26):
that is Jeanne.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
You're going to come in, you turn up and some
big occasion.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Yeah, they could never shut you down, not on your
twenty wedding.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Always come all the way from Australia twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
You know you're going to like wrestaurants. You're like, hey,
what's any special occasion. I'm always like, fuck, dude, I
should just be.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
I'm a big special occasion. Particularly at hotels, it's always
my honeymoon.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
It's always your anniversary.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
You always get upgrades. Yeah, yeah, right, nine out of
ten you'll get an upgroad.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
And if you're at dinner, you say it's your anniversary,
always gets usert.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Yes, you always a.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Little cake, you get a better table all the time.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Yeah, I'm happy that I that's probably a bit much
of me. I'd probably go to water put in that
sort of pressure on them. It's like when you go
to get a shit haircut and your arm was always like,
oh what do you think about your hair? Why never
address it?
Speaker 4 (36:09):
You know, I'm not prepared to wear if the guy goes,
fuck off, you gonna come down off my tippy toes
and walk off.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
Those people that are like those people that always pull
up for if it's bad service or bad haircut, something
like that, and they go, I refuse to pay. I
have so much respect for those people because you have
got to have some big nuts to do.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, but then you see the people who you almost
think they just do it. It's like a racket where
They're like like if someone's actually fucked you around or
giving you a bad haircut, Like, mate, I didn't ask
for that. But then you see people when we're in
the Goldie Fuck. It might have been for Jarch's fight
last year. There was just this guy and you could
just tell he was just all like he he does
this every time. And he was like telling him like, well,
(36:48):
you said this, and then I said that, and I
was like I was listening to this whole thing, and
I'm like, he's actually done in the wrong this whole time.
But he just was like I'm not paying. I'm not paying.
Get me the manager. I'm like, fuck, I don't know how.
I don't know how people have that energy.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, Tommy can ask you, like I don't.
I don't like to do this too about you know,
talk about your legendary dad. I mean, Cooper hates talking
about me, your old man. I had a conversation with
you when I was blind and I said, mate, you've
got to get back on the road. And he goes, oh,
maybe it's a sensitive all that there. So it makes changing,
(37:22):
it's changing. He like, you must have had as a
kid so much fun because I was telling the boys
before he wasn't a record company. He did it all
out of the house.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Yeah, yeah, it's he would record everything out of the
house or like up with his friends, like his producer
Froggies place.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
It was.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
It was like, in hindsight, an interesting upbringing, I guess
in some regard, but it was very cool to see
I reckon. That's partially why, like I felt comfortable to
try and do this because I was kind of I
was exposed to it being an option. You know, like
if he just a fucking whatever nine to five, I
don't think I would have necessarily believed believe that it
(38:04):
was even a thing. I'd be like, what the fuck
are you doing? But I would see like all the
stuff at home he would record everything under the John
Wilkes Boothy'd call it, which he'd make it home with
just mattresses and he just put a blanket over it
and you know, both and get re erected every time
he was doing an album, and you know, like even
it's funny. I didn't even really think of it, but
(38:25):
he'd sort of pointed out in like the booklets that
he would have in his in maybe the wide world
of sports ones where it was like he'd photo shopped
his head onto like fucking some chick doing gymnastics and
had like his test he's popping out, or like him
surfing on a wave and there's a good, big, great
white And then when we started doing the podcast, we
just started photoshopping ourselves into ship all the time, and
he was like he sort of pointed out, and I
was like, oh, yeah, like you know, I think all
(38:47):
that sort of stuff just it seemed into me.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Yeah, well, I mean what people A lot of people
don't know even when they love the song of sorts
and not not a song but Australiana, which to that
point was in the eighties, to that point and maybe
still is the highest selling highest selling single in Australian
music history.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
It was at the time. I think Kylie might have
gone past him, but.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Your dad wrote it, Yeah, this is amazing formed it
and your dad wrote it.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Yeah, it's crazy, and I like, you know, I certainly
don't have any Some people are like, you know in
the way you asked, there were like, oh, I don't
ask me Dad. I actually have no hang ups about
that at all. I think he's fucking one of the
funniest people we've ever produced, right, like I and that
Australiana is like so well written, you know, just the
(39:39):
whole thing, the way that wordplay all works.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
But every one of these is still funny as well.
It's genius. Listen to Bill Urie This Usual Life the
other day and there's so many little subtle things that
are just yeah, it's just it's junius. Yeah, it's brilliant.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
I'm on that one. Actually, that was my first debut
as a little child.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
I was saying, you you are on a couple?
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, we're all on them and a
few of them.
Speaker 5 (40:01):
So what did he use your fat?
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Like? There was I think like at the end of
Bill Lurie there was like some sort of I haven't
heard it for ages, but like there was some sort
of montage or something. Yeah, maybe it was like kids
being interviewed or it was his grandkids or something, and
I'm like, stick that up your ass, Tony Greg. Just
like the little highlights Richie too.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
There was one where mister Benno, can we get an autograph?
Goes He goes, yeah, no problem. Who do we autograph
it to?
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Ye? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Who do I make it out to?
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Just to dear He's like there were heaps of our
family members and like family friends and like in one
of them, Mum's just best friend who was just this
sweet English lady who ran like a hobby horse farm
in fucking Kangaloon in the Southern Highlands. Ollie. Dad just
loved her a voice so much he was like, can
you be my secretary for fucking fading away I think,
(40:52):
And it was just Ollie, like one of my sister's friends,
mums who Dad's just dragged on to be in the
fucking record.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
As it must be funny, like you're a kid. How
many some of the people he would have brought through
the house. Imagine some big names would have come through
to record out of the John Wilkes.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah again like not it was not weird at the
time now from no see that was that was part
of as well. He'd record everywhere I think he did,
like Kenny and those like in hotel rooms and ship dude.
John Wilkes could be erected anywhere that he was dragging
mattresses off hotel beds and.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Ship mobile yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know, like.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
They would record out of Jimmy Barnes's place, like he
had like a loft as part of like his this
fucking monster house they had in in Barrel, and like
we were very close growing up, our family, so like
there was that, you know, John Farnham to a lesser extent,
but like part of that all these people that I
would just sort of like see here or there, and
people that I probably don't even I would never even realized. Yeah,
(41:50):
but you know again only upon reflection we're like, oh, fuck, yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
That was It's funny. It's funny. You just mentioned Jimmy
Barnes's house in Bow. So we went there when it
was it New Year's or Christmas, New Year's thank you
Jackson New Year's party. Him and Dad were close and
come down to the farmboo. Anyway, Dad being Dad, had
a little bit of drink and Jimmy's dogs got lost,
right and anyway, so Dad went, all right, we'll break up,
(42:15):
we'll do a search. Party is quite a big property,
so everyone breaks off. It's midnight like New Year. The
fire was about to go. Anyway, I ended up finding
the dog. It was just they were it was scared
of the fireworks and it had hidden behind his bed
and I went, oh, everyone, we found the dog. Oh sweet, perfect.
Everyone sort of comes back from the scavenger hunt. Dad's
still not back, but no one noticed. And then and
(42:39):
I'm going, where's that? So I start walking out, going
Dad do this property? And I just hear his groaning groaning,
And I walked up and he'd fallen in a wombat hole?
Did he fallen asleep? And then he'd obviously woken up?
(43:00):
And the whole bottom half is stuck in what's going on?
To the house and say, can I get another adult
to like? It was so funny?
Speaker 2 (43:16):
And one bat?
Speaker 5 (43:16):
They get dangerous?
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Call the that's that?
Speaker 1 (43:22):
That that those people that picked up the one bat?
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Like what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (43:27):
And then it runs out after I couldn't watch it
felt bad.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
That's a warning.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
Noted that could be incriminating ten years time they use this. Yeah,
back on the old man. Does Billy ever like ring
you boys up and give his feedback? Or like, did
he do that at start helping you guys just like
Dad used to ring me and Jack? You know his
footy tips. This is Billy's area of expertise, Like did
he ever help you guys along the way?
Speaker 2 (43:56):
No? He would to be honest for the for the
longest period of time. I think he's a bit like
what the fuck is this? Like early on he would
never say that, and he never actually made that. Maybe
that was my own insecurities where I'm like, oh, I'm
fucking doing something the same, you know, not the same
at all, but you know, like in the same world.
But so I would sort of tell him sometimes and
(44:17):
he'd be like, oh, yeah, you know whatever. He didn't
really listen. It was only once. It's only once we
were started having some success. I think that he probably
even like took it seriously and listened to it. And
then it was more like you'd be like, oh, it's
not too bad, you guys, all right.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
And I was like, thank you, it's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
But no advice.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
No, he doesn't really give us advice now, I think
because it isn't the same thing. Like he is a
creative mind who, like, you know, he comes up with
these fucking things, and like he might just tell you
something like he came up with the name for a
gambling show about even you know what I mean. So
there's certain things like that where he sort of and
he didn't even it might have him just been nuts.
(44:58):
He might have even just said once like he wanted
to get a horse and caught that and I was like, well,
I'm going to steal it. Yeah, but he's not a
big conversationalist, so the podcast side of things is not
like it's you know what I mean, it's us just
sort of talking ship. Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 5 (45:14):
So he doesn't like his proadcast side when he struggled
with that side of just getting in a room and
just talking ship for an hour.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
No, we've done, we've done.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
We've done a couple of bodies.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
But he's funny as he spins old yarns a lot.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
Yeah, and like what he used to talk about on
his tapes, you know, he's recording stuff like that. He
can shoot, he can definitely shoot, but it's not his
Breton butter. He's like name play and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, So he's certainly more just like you know,
there are also things like I mean, obviously this is
very specific, but like I'll talk to him about rugby
league sometimes or sport generally, and I now am like,
I know way more about sports than he does. He's
obviously like great at making it funny and like, yeah,
but he'll say some shit about rugby league. I'm just like, Dad,
shut out the fuck. I can't. I can't have what
(46:03):
the fuck? Mate? Like you know where He's like annoyed
one the other day about the player Uh Charlie was
a uh he he goes, mate, who do you reckon?
The best player I saw on the weekend was And
I'm like, fuck, man, I don't know. He's like, I'm like,
He's like, well, which game do you think I'm talking about?
I'm like there's eight fucking games. I'm like, I don't know, dud.
(46:24):
And I'm like, what days like Friday, I'm like, right, okay,
I don't what time six pm? I'm like, oh, Dad,
I don't know if I even watched that game. He's like,
chance nickel clock start that guy and it was like
a six ten against the Roosters. I'm like, what the
fuck even happened in that game? That fucking guy everything
he did and and I'm just like, oh jeez.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
I saw him once. Tommy, we had a thing of
triple and we took over a pub and we called
it the gym because it's one of those brilliant things
you know, radios ye come up dying and go left call.
We're going to do so people tell they're wives, what
are you doing off to the gym? So what do
we call it the church? Oh, we don't want to
do that anyway. So your dad turns up and we're
(47:07):
about two thirds way through the show. He's there for
last year. He turns up and there you're going like mad, fuh,
you know, and this joint's packed and he walks in. Mate,
he get up on the stage and he did half
an hour straight.
Speaker 5 (47:22):
We just stopped.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
We didn't play any music, we didn't get away a break.
It was unbelievable, just picked up off the energy of
the crowd and.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
His ability to just turn it on. Is I've seen that, yeah,
because he is he's like he doesn't sleep very well,
and he's like he's a typical creative, like you know,
he's fucking ups and downs, and but then he'll just
come on and just bang. And you're like, you'd have
no idea that he just was like half asleep or
couldn't be fux and then he just like and then
he just rips and he gets fucking nervous for it
(47:52):
as well, like you. And he's like he used to
do the backpage and I used to go in there
all the time and watch you and then he get
off the back page, which is not even in front
of a live.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
Audience, and be swawing just perfection.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Yeah, he's just Yeah, he's a massive perfectionist. That's partly
I reckon why he doesn't get back out and do
all that, because now it's like, you know, like he's
just he needs it to be one hundred.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
It would be a sold at all and all the
stuff he does, like you know, the stuff he does,
is it's not offensive, No, like it is not offense.
Is it's taking the piss? I don't think. I just
can't believe some people take offense as opposed to the boys.
Once and one of their mates went and saw Rodney
rood and concert Rodney. Rodney, Rodney's not that way, Jack
(48:34):
Jackson's a real real knock about. Yeah. Kid came back
and I said, oh, Harry, hell was Rodney rude? And
he just went, oh mate, he goes, mate, he has
even I took offense.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Yeah, Rodney's Rodney's punchy these days.
Speaker 4 (48:49):
Yeah, yeah, Rodney's Rodnie. Rodney's He's on the back end there, Rodney.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Well, yeah, you can't really No, I agree with you, though,
like I think the period of the world where like
it went very and whatever you and everyone was wigging out.
Now I think a lot of people like we've kind
of come out the other side. I think that was
where Dad was just like what the fuck is going
on world today? And so I think he's still a
little bit like gun shy after that.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
He still will hit me.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
That's one of the he'll always hit me with, like
an island a football name out of the blue. That's
like one of the things I still love where he's
just coming up with one and I'm like, oh, how
the cricket sceam was it?
Speaker 3 (49:27):
I love it?
Speaker 2 (49:27):
I love it?
Speaker 1 (49:28):
Who singer? Maybe with the gay bar just I love
the Jerry So you see you.
Speaker 4 (49:36):
That is.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
I'll send him like under twenties teams all the time,
Like I'll find like new Southwest cup sides.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
Are like Dad, how about it?
Speaker 4 (49:41):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Like there's so many good names.
Speaker 5 (49:43):
Have a crack.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
Yeah, before we let you go?
Speaker 5 (49:45):
Next five years sport?
Speaker 1 (49:47):
Whatever?
Speaker 5 (49:48):
What do we think of?
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Where to from here?
Speaker 1 (49:51):
You know, are you're going to follow Darth Vader's lead
and going to coffee and that sort of stuff.
Speaker 4 (50:01):
We've got our multi vitamins so hopefully that's kicking goals.
Yeah in terms of where we'll be still be dribbling
and yard yeah yeah, yeah, it's hard hard to predict.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
We get asked all the time like where do you
want to do or like what are the long term plans,
and like we've never really had them, and I don't
think we've Nothing we've done has been off the back
of like a long term plan.
Speaker 4 (50:21):
We're like, I think these just pop up and we
just roll with them in the moment, like we'll have
a great idea and we're like, fuck, let's do that.
Like that's just all the way the way we've always
operated as applis to planning five years out, just because
it's too hard to predict the mood will be in
or where where we'll be at.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
And also if you plan something and then when you
get to it doesn't feel organic, it's like that it's
probably not worth like you won't translate. Whereas like, for example,
with last year with the Olympics, we were like, fuck
the Olympics on in two weeks, like what are we
going to do? And then we're like, let's just get
a bed in the office and just stay up all
night and wash it and just live stream fucking every
night or anytime. We've got a gold Medaline. And so
(50:59):
we just did that and it went well, and I'm like, Okay,
this is more our speed rather than like thinking over
the Olympics in August, like what the are we going
to do?
Speaker 4 (51:06):
We've never been good planners always, we're always scrambling awful
awful husbands.
Speaker 5 (51:15):
Also, congratulations on fatherhood.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
Be part of the crew. Number number one, number one,
number one, little.
Speaker 5 (51:22):
Girl, Wow girl, welcome to hell. Is it good?
Speaker 1 (51:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (51:27):
Sleeping right?
Speaker 3 (51:29):
Touch wood perfect, touch wood.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Yeah. We had a they asked going to on the
radio stations using Nova who on the platform and then
said we went Trisha and I went in there and
they asked us to see a question. They said, tell
us about the podcast and what does it represent? I said,
and I meant this scilly, I said, it's an educational show.
If your life's going great, you live in the dream.
(51:51):
Whatever you do, don't get married, it will destroy your life.
If you want to double down, have kids, triple down,
have to.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Now.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
Okay, thank you, oh thanks boys, thanks for coming over.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Having us has been a lot of funny.
Speaker 5 (52:07):
Big rap you guys, bigger for coming over here.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (52:11):
We're massive fans, all three of us of the content.
We love it, especially the yarn you s had on
Peter Peters last year. That was my favorite one liner ever.
You guys said you can't trust the boat with two
first names, Peter Peters. You certainly it must be impossible
to trust with the same first name.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
I still keep.
Speaker 5 (52:33):
But thanks very much coming over.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
We appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
On your
Speaker 2 (52:38):
Welcome you make boys
Right, guys. Episode two with Tom and Eddie the hollow
Sport Boys and uh, this is terrific. The boys going
to talk to us about their really big breakthrough moments
as far as the podcast concerned, and some great stories
in particularly great story about this man here, Jimmy Barnes enjoy.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I don't give you a high chair for you. He
wants to stand, Okay, I respect that.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
James Magnuson, who's a terrific love him mate. And the
fact coming on telling you Blakesworth the enhanced com.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yeah, yeah, well that was good. We were We've actually
broken a couple of massive news.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Stories, huge ones.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
The Nathan Clear Nathin Clarry Mary Fowler. We broke that.
He even said as much the other day. He was
in there for another podcast and he was like, yeah,
you guys, you guys fucking blew that story.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Because it was a tiny little there was a tiny little.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Five sentence article in the newspaper about how him and
Mary Fowler had gone for ice cream.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And after a sponsored event, Yes, after a sponsor event.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
It was down.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
How it starts, It just goes for ice cream out.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
The Belgian waffles.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
There's no friendly ice cream.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
But on the on missile.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
I think we're just having a conversation because I was saying, listen,
it's all well and good to say, oh, it's going
to get people to dope and they're going to break times,
and like, that's not really.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
How it works.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
You need you need to have you need to be
a thoroughbred. Yeah that then dopes, then you're likely to
break a record.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
It doesn't.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
You can't just take yourself, for example, and turn you
into the fastest man in the world.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
He turned him into d C. It's proven experiment.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
It didn't work everyone because you're sitting right across from.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
But it was amazing when we were in Paris together
because we went we were doing podcasts every night together,
you know. So we'd be walking along and of all
the the stuff and controversies around and enhanced games, and
he was one of the few people to put his
hand up everyone but believing behind the scenes there's lots
of people bumping him. So we'd be walking into the
pool area and you get a Brazilian or an American
swimmer come up, So James, how you're doing, and they
(01:59):
walked it. He pulled them aside and just he he
was asking about the yeah work, what have you been promised?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
It's an interesting concept. Like I we've always been like,
obviously the Olympics is what it is, but it's it's
sort of I feel like people just have a warped
idea of like what it means. It's not like you're
just some raucous steroid juice and it's like this is
specificity training and like everything's properly document You're not just
getting needles in your ass in a car park, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Like, yeah, it's administered by doctors as hell possibly can be.
But so on the podcast, we were asking that question
about do you need to be good to then open
break recause he's one hundred percent yeah. And then he said,
by the way, I'll take a million dollars and get involved,
Like if you want me to get involved, I'll do
it for a million dollars, and they offered it to him.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, And I went from the.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I mean the juice is it's the cream on top. Yeah,
I mean that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
You got to saw a photo him the other day.
I said, he a damn. I was like, hey, you're
looking and he sent bag a photo and I was like,
holy it's you.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Know, this is the right. He had to go over
to train because he couldn't train in any pools in
around Sydney. Not for the reason because the Enhanced Games.
They wouldn't let him dive in. Why they wouldn't because
it's the rules.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
The rules of.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Pools now is that you can't rules. And he went
to him and said, guys nor Sidney pools, said fucking
James Magnuson, like I've been. I've been to two Olympics,
you know, one day come with gold medal and well limits,
I said, no, the rules of rules, you can't.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So what if they know you're doping, you just can't
get in the water.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
No, no, no, it was that wasn't a problem. The
problem was when he was training for his free starts
diving off the blocks, don't they don't let you but.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Because of because of neck injuries.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Because the neck injuries, it's a new policy. So even
regards really could have been Mark Spitz turn up there
or the other you know you.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Can, So how does anyone train for Hougen band?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
You can you can go to one of those guys.
You can't go to a public pool and literally dive
in off the blocks anymore? There you can ye far out,
So he got it's the truth.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Story that does.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
It just doesn't sound right, not true, Jack, Jack shaking
his head.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I'll what is that now?
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I'm telling Jack's going to google it?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, you can tell. I'm going to text missile now
straight from the hall.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
The rules of pools from Missile bring him the ruler
pool continue.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
So yeah, right, that's so.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Bizarre, idiot. Can Jack's just google? Can you dive into
a swimming pool in Australia that's what you should expect? Yes, yes, yes, yeah,
but that doesn't really make a little sense because how
is anyone ever going to prepare unless you had a
swimming pool at home?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Oh y, yes, and those sort of places where so
you can only go to the proper training facilities rather
than the.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Proper trainer and all that sort of stuff. You can,
but you can't just go and turn up on yourself
and stand on the blocks and dive anymore.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
That is you know where it's at. Within handscake, because
I heard it wasn't even going to go ahead.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I think they're making a documentary about it. I'm pretty
sure it's going ahead, but it might just be like
being delayed. Like I think they were like it's on
next year. I think it's a bit more going into
it now.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
I like the idea of even because obviously athletes want
the glory of the Olympics, right, you should be trying
to attract people that are about to retire.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Go you've had the Olympics, You've.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Had your moment, it might have won your gold medal,
you've made a final, whatever, Go another four years, go
another two years, dope to the dope to the gills
and try and break records, you know, like a small
window before you retire. I think that's the because they
get people in their prime, but you don't. That's Sally
the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Noah Lyles, no Liles, here's the gold.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
He's a sprinter.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah. Well they went to him and his thing was, well,
you know, I'm the peak of my powers. I'm not
going to juice, and they went, you don't have to.
It's called the enhanced gains. But you don't have to juice.
You can go there as a clean athlete and cost
the other guys. So it's the enhanced Games. But if
you're a clean athlete and you're an Olympian They offered
(05:55):
apparently big money to be a part of it. I
don't have to juice, but it very interesting is if
the Enhanced Games was to go ahead, at some point
suddenly blokes start running nine point five seconds for one hundred,
breaking world records left, right and center. What does that
do to the Olympics problem?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Are you going to be happy watching a guy run
nine point nine to five and get the gold medal?
Or you just kind of got these guys are fucking
reserved greatest. It's like turning up to a state of
origin game and it's instead they go New South Welles
Cup players and you're going, yeah, well, I don't.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Understand why you can't like if it's all. If it's all,
I feel like the reason that steroids is like seen
as negative is because there was a period there where
it was just like chaotically innistead and it was again
car park stuff. But if it's now like a safe,
medically observed thing that can be done, then everyone play
(06:49):
runs on it. Let's fucking rip. Yeah, let's see how
quick we can go? What are we doing?
Speaker 4 (06:55):
I would like to see how quick we could go? Yeah,
that's always intrigued me.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
So if we locked there in this room now for
the next six months and just started jabbing up and
they weren't out in the street and just said, right.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Let's all for them us juice for a year and
then come back here and.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Can we break I don't think.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
I don't think to do anything for that.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Absolutely again, you gotta be you gotta have it.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Yeah, yeah, that reckon.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
It does amazing things for the sex drive that could
be a problem. Don't bolt the doors. But when you play,
when you play rugby league, right and will we got
to round about that, guys. You know you knew you'd
be playing against guys who were ducing and when you
tackle them, our fucking hell, you could tell the difference.
They're like, they're that hard. It is literally like tackling
the side of the building.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Is it possible to do in the today today's game?
I reckon there would be players that are like.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Running the gauntlet. Yeah, probably would be Tom, Probably would.
I think in every sport there would be.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
There is always someone.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
I think it'd be more in a to answer your question,
it'd be more in a capacity. They did it around
that sort of eighteen to twenty mark before they became
first graders.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
So I helped them to get there, but build the base.
Speaker 5 (08:05):
It's not sustainable to be doing it like when you're
in there, because there's just too much testing.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Yeah right, Ok, Like Cherry, I sent it to Missile
Evans Cherry right, evens juicy, that's a scoop, Missile. Is
it true that one of the reasons you went overseas
is that you weren't allowed to dive off the blocks
at a public pool? And he come back, Yeah, Magice,
(08:31):
that's true.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
There you go straight from the horses, straight from the missiles.
You have to say, Jack, you're wrong there, miss.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Can we doubt it?
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Yeah, you took that very personally.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I love it now.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
I love the extreme you went to just to do it. Yeah,
all right, so no one diving in public pool.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
But that is insane. That's like an insane I didn't
know that.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Have you been Have you ever been approached to do
breakfast radio show? Because I tell you what, there's some
fucking blood is going kids speaks. I mean, you guys
are the uppers one, but there's shows.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
No, we've never been. We've never been approached to do anything.
I think we would. We did stuff with sc N
a couple of years ago. But we were always like,
we don't want to do a show. We just did out.
We did interviews, and then we put them across. They
were We didn't we didn't curtail our swearing, so I
think that probably got a little bit they got a
bit jack of that. When I was just.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Listened to these like Wednesday night interviews, the one with
Willie Mason was just it was bad and it was
just like.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
It was almost inaudible.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
I couldn't listen to it.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yeah, it was ridiculous, like what are we paying for?
I think what the cinema must have been.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
I can imagine the radio executives going, great chow really fun.
I mean laughed a.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Lot of the stuff.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
However, Yeah, we used to have our poster meetings all
the time. Great show. Loved it.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
However, there's always a bite did they actually review? Did
they do like it? They call it an air check?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Did they edu know? So we would record him in
our studio, maybe even when you were on ours. I'm
not sure if that was when we're still doing them,
but we'd record him in the studio and then we'd
record for long we chat for then we'd chop it
down to a forty minute radio thing. It'd go on
radio first beeps to Jesus, and then it'd go on
our podcast unedited on the weekend. But like after Mason's won,
(10:27):
someone put in the Punters and Dribblers Willy Mason's fucks
per minute, and like listen to the whole thing and
just counted every time he said fuck. And then over
the course of the episode, how that broke down.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I'm sometimes I think with justin horror level. Sometimes Willy
just goes starts going hard. I'm looking and I'm watching Scope,
just going, oh God, slip out a vision.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
It's funny. Remember when you talking about the fox per minute?
Remember when Brandon We had Brandon Smith on the podcast
last week and one of the great characters, but we
were talking of out. Remember when he shign he left Storm,
went to the Roosters and he went on a podcast
and he was Lucy Goosey on that, very open about
the whole situation. But I think it was buzz or
radio was Dean Richie. Dean Richie listened to it and
(11:14):
broke a story breaking down how many f words he
said podcastwards, and then I think maybe the.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Yeah he was beside himself. He was what's the game
come to?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I'm looking forward to seeing Brandon at South.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, I reckon whay it to'll get him gone.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
He'd all get him going. It was sorry so popular.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
I didn't think.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I didn't and like you know, Eddie and I are
far from rugby league ex first, I didn't think he
was going that bad. Just before he got injured, I
thought he was going good. It was like he was
kind of it was he was actually going all right.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
I thought last year, yeah, last year, that first year
was tougher, and I think last year was real came
into his own yeah, and I think the whole team
did that. I think they started to play real good
brand of foot and then him and Sam Walker did
that in the.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Same game, and I thought both of them were coming
on leaps and bounds together. It was a really big
blowpat He just like there's certain blokes that you just
looking back in hindsight, Brandon Roosters is just something that
doesn't quite fit there. Brandon's his natural nature of what
he's like and taking the piece out of coaches and
people just had they feel where with Wayne like he'll
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be in a short period of time, Wayne's favorite. He's
exactly a Wayne type of player and a South Sydney
type of player. We're talking him here. He's done on
belly Ache, and I reckon, when you see that Apple
TV show on belly Ache that you wondered like, I
thought it was really interesting to see even the you
guys at the club, like Ellie taking the piss out
(12:42):
of belly Ache. I reckon, that says a lot about
a club and a coach.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
You can do that.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Yeah, Yeah, that.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Was a good When they Lugg's.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Still there said, I said, you know, like taking the
piss out of belly Ache, and I think that a lot.
I mean, Coops just said he didn't say, Melissa do anyway,
but it just sort of shows that the different cultures
between the two clubs, not saying ones right, ones bad,
right and wrong. But you said I did do it
to Robbo and he went, oh no, I don't do that, Robber.
Speaker 5 (13:15):
Yeah on the back, we should have cut it out.
On the baggage claim. That's his pet hate, belly Like
if his bag's not if he's always the last bag
out or it doesn't come, he gets so angry the boys.
I remember one day it didn't show up. We're sitting there.
We just got beat by Penrith or something up here
(13:36):
and we were going back and we're sitting there and
everyone was there was a couple of bags that didn't come,
and everyone was like, please let belly ACH's bag come
because he's in the worst mid already. And he was
just sitting there and you know how like when the
camera flashes were in the box and he's always just
like biting his lips like really angrily to stop himself
from gone. But he was dead sit chewing his lips off,
and we were like no, and then it never came.
(13:58):
So we were sitting on get like a little shuttlebust
back to where cars are parked, and the only seat,
the only spare seat, was in the back seat next
to BELLIEC and there was so I'm like shit. So
I'm sitting next to him and he's just fooming and
I was just looking. And then there was a massive
road detour so it's going to take another twenty minutes
(14:19):
into the car and he's just fuming. And then I
the whole place was so tense. There was no music,
no radio on the sholve and I go to him
when it rains at pause a.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
And all the boys looked.
Speaker 5 (14:31):
All the boys looked back, and he looked at me,
and I was looking at him on the side though,
and he goes, well, it must be fucking stormy. Funny
thing about what you said about the roosters though before
saying Brandon wasn't A didn't seem like that kind of
player I was. After we recalled the potty, I got
thinking and I was like, when you go comparing Melbourne
(14:52):
and Roosters, Melbourne's very much if you work hard on
the field, it doesn't really matter what kind of personality
you are, what you're like off the field. It's you know,
you can bring all types in and it's just they
treat everyone to be an individual. However, they are roosters
to me, and I don't know the inner sanctum of
the joint, so it's only me looking from the outside.
(15:13):
It seems like a kind of place where if you
went there, you kind of conform to their system, the
rooster way, you.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (15:20):
It very much seems like that to me.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Why does everyone these days every club has the way
come up something different, the Newcastle system, Everything's like everyone's
got a way.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
System and a hashtag of what season is all about?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Everyone's got a center of excellence. I mean really some
of the clubs should you really call a center of excellence?
I mean center of mediocrity?
Speaker 5 (15:44):
And who came up with that name? Why is that even?
Why is it always a center of excellence?
Speaker 4 (15:48):
It would have started with one and then everyone's like,
jes that sounds so.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
My old coach from the Knights, Malcolm really manly, complete
legend manly. He's just been diagnosed with cancer spinal cords.
So to bring that, I'm going to bring things down.
But he was the best coach we ever had because mate,
although we fucking trained hard and he ran a pretty
tough operation, everyone knew where he stood, never played a
(16:15):
mind game with everyone, respected everyone. As long as you
worked hard, you could be whatever you want to be.
And I think that were the happiest years of my
playing career playing under Malcolm. We never trained, never trained
as hard anywhere as we did that year, but it
was fucking fun. It was good. You could turn up
to train every every day and be yourself. I can
only imagine turn it up at a team where it's
(16:35):
got a uniform culture. You have to everyone's got a
I would it sort of doesn't even make sense.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I would have always thought that was kind of the
vibe if you train hard, do everything you need to do,
and then it's like.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Oh, make crack. I've heard stories of other clubs where
a coach will say to a young player, heymte, get ready,
you're in this week he'll ring. There was one player
who rang his family. His family flew from from Sydney
up up to fucking Brisbane to watch his ol playing
the Broncos. Halfway through the one, the coach captain goes,
you've just learned how to prepare for the game you're
(17:08):
at eh men? Oh my, what those ruthless that those
stories are quite common. Really, Yes, you'ven't.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
What about my family? Yeah mate, they get it now.
They get now to get efficiently through the Vagan Airport.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
The family mate, you know they've sold the car and
the family dogs. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Wow, that's crazy. That seems like such a overkill, like
like you're overthinking your job here a bit like when
you're doing that to someone.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Well, some of them like in this way actually works better.
Some of them just wait right up until like the
day of the game to tell them they're actually playing,
and I think that actually works well as god because
you don't get the nervousness through the week. But sometimes
they've had to tell the parents on the day of
the game to get down here now, and they're like,
should work.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's different. But again I think that
feels a little better than run up here and yeah yeah,
Like it's in the best interest of the player because
I think he's going to be sweet.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Like on your coach right, who he had an international
player in his team, right, and this this guy is
one of the biggest legends at the club. And this
coach come in who was notorious like and playing mind
games and started texting him saying, oh have you seen
this young guy who's coming through? Better watch your back.
The coach was to this season nationals and season Nationals
(18:30):
came back and he was like, you never underestimate people's
and securities. He was like going to people, going, man,
I'm get these texts and the what the hell's going on?
And he just kept going at him and goinating him
all the time, and he going, what is the point?
Joey had a coach once. I love this story. This
is great. Joey to coach once when Joey's sort of
getting towards the end of Newcastle and the coach got
(18:52):
there and said, and he's in the coach was he
used to like to put everyone in their place. So
you got Joey there, who's Philly, He's just say a
free spirit and did whatever he wanted. So the casual
what can I do here to sort of push Joey
a little bit, you know, push him down a little bit? Yes,
right too?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Right?
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Everyone coming, what we're gonna do? Everyone have a bit
of a crack. I mean, Joey kicks off, but you know,
is he the best? Is he the best person to
kick off? Let's run through and have a go anyway,
So everyone's sort of kicking everyone's going where the's going anyway?
Daniel Abraham shoot up and Abes just went fucking whack, mate,
thirty meters hang time, you know, thirty hang time coming down,
(19:30):
And the case just turned and said, I'm sorry, Joey,
You're not only kicking out. Ames was kicking off, and
Joey goes, what the funk? Would I care? Won three
golden boots and three day ms.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Yeah I don't care, mate, Yeah, anyway, get him get
him back to the.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Podcast for a sect. Shane Keith Productions. Yes, so that's
your guys production company, right, Well, that's the that's.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
The company that I sort of that's the name of
the company.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
And then the business is Hello Sport, but it's now
it's actually now Pipe Dreams Media as of a couple
of weeks.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Really, Yes, Shane Keith Productions was named pre Shane the
death of Shane Keith Warn. So it was an homage
to Shane. Then he passed away, and so we've always
underneard about it, like I don't.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Know, it sort of also was like it was just
it was when it was just us, and now there's
like a few other shows that are in and amongst
the universe, and so like with Jarchi and We meanwhile
and that, like when you're like trying to sell that
show from a Shane Keith Productions, it just feels a
little bit like it felt a little bit like who
the fuck are these people?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Did to meet Warning?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
No, I spoke to him for like two seconds on
a phone call when I was like a producer, and
he was lovely for those two seconds. Yeah, but no,
it was it was it was. The main thing was
like it feels a bit like uncool to be Shane
Key eating it. So we and pipe Dreams is the
name of our first ever episode that we recorded when
we were like, we were just always like fucked on
(21:06):
the podcast, which I'll be a pipe dream, pipe dream,
pipe dreams. So we called the first episode pipe dreams,
and we're like, what are we going to drink? Recorded
on a laptop on garage band, flicking through the newspaper.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah, flicking through the newspaper.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
That's the genesis of drilling.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Just on warning. And isn't it fucking crook? How now
sudden he's pasted. He's still got his kids here, he's
still got family around, and people are digging up saying
when he died he had this. Honestly, let's leave it, mate.
The bloke has passed. Let let him and his loved
ones just yeah, let let it go.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
We would not believe that article I read the other.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Well, we intentionally didn't talk about it as well. We
were just like, yeah, you know, like if you hear
that story about someone living, that's our bread and butter.
I'm like give you that. But you're just like this
is really unnecessary ship to be dreaded, particularly.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
So long after, Like it's it's just they've resurfed it
like about three for all three four years. Yeah, yeah,
it felt like two years ago.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
What a horrendous time. Can remember Rod Marsh passed and
Dean Jones. Dean Jones just before that Roy and then
mate Simon was Warning and then Henry Simon if we
saw We see Roy all the time in at Fox Sports.
As you mean, Jack had a night out with you.
It's fantastic. Yeah, anyway, he's such a great plate. And
(22:28):
just after Warning, we're at Fox Sports. We were sitting there,
we had a long chat about you know, Warning and
shortly straight after Roy that.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Was terrible, terrible, The whole thing was. It was awful.
But I think we actually did something for Ko at
that point as well. And we spoke to him not
long after Warning, and it was just again we didn't
know him, but it was fucking Andrew Simon's and just yeah,
you saw like his family and his daughter or that
whole thing. It's just like it was a very very
heavy time.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
We're that one night there was myself Fletch Fletcher's made
beast Cat and Roy and Beast and Roy. So we
had a good crew going and we went to make
the manly boat. You had to finish with as you
do winners, do you anyway? Bands playing and Roy's guys going.
(23:17):
Has anyone got any requests? I remember Roy going. It
was a Billy Joel, didn't he And this bloke went
Billy Joel man. He goes yeah, Roy Simons, yeah, Billy
Jarl and this bloke this dead ship next to Roy
goes fuck Billy Joel.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
And Roy went fuck you and Jack goes leak, it's
time to go.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
When Jack was driving, and Jack drove Roy all the
way back to the casino, right, and every time I'd
see that he was young bloke.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
He's good.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Good for doing that.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
That's very good time.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
What did he have against Billy Joe bloke?
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Yeah, yeah, Billy the most innocent singer of all the Yeah,
that's you also saying it to Roy.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yeah, that's right. What are we doing?
Speaker 4 (24:02):
What do we do? It?
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Talk about dribblers.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
You can get some.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
If you've been down to the boat shed past midnight,
you can get those characters.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Yeah, that's when the dribblers out there.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, it's dribbler hours.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I once found a wallet right at the boatshed. I
have had four hundred bucks sooner, What do I do
with you? What do I do?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
What do I do?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
And I thought I'll do the right thing. So I
walked up on the bar and I went, Hey, how
you doing. I've just found this wallet and the woman
goes yeah, and I said, I just want to as
you went, I don't know, just take it in. I
thought myself, like, that wallet is not going to go
back to it.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Than said, some of the podcasts underneath your production company,
how did they come about? You said, what do you mean? Well,
did you guys go and kind of your new judgment
at university? Did you guys sort of say, oh, do
you want to do a podcast? Or did he to
you and say, I'd love to do a podcast under
you guys? How do you find the talent for it?
Speaker 4 (25:03):
We had sort of We've been telling him to do it,
close to Beggs, just to do a podcast for years.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
I like, bro', you'd be unreal. You've got to do
a partty, gotta do a partty, go to party.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Finally he's like, okay, I'll do one, and they're like, well,
who do you want to do it with, and he'd
sort of just recently at that point met Louisa, who
he does it with, and that had a good chemistry.
They've done a couple of TikTok videos to you. He's like,
I think it could be fun to do it with her.
So we got him in for a few trials, and
then after like six months they were pumping.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
One of the biggest things a lot about them both.
You both have known each other, Yeah, forever. These guys
are my seed. Makes it easy, but to meet someone
and then straight afterwards sort of jump into a podcast. Yeah,
it says a lot about them.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
But they both like knowing Jars. It's like he's so
funny and he's like a performer and that he's open,
you know, like he doesn't he just sort of goes
with the flow and he's like it's one of the
things I like, respect it or appreciate about him. Lou's
actually exactly the same loud the way she is in
that show. You're like, she does these fucking karaoke things
where she comes in and she dresses up as Elvis
(26:05):
or as Britney Spears and goes get commits to the
bit and does like a full fucking lip sync of it,
and you're like, that's the energy. I think you need
a little bit to be able to just like hit
it off straight away. But I mean it's it's also
not that easy. We got lucky, like where everyone got
lucky in that situation there with them, like they were
perfect for each other and we just finally got charged
(26:27):
to fucking commit.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
To do something.
Speaker 4 (26:28):
But it was, it was it was nice to see
when you're sort of like, you know, big nights of like, mate,
you'd be unbelievable, but I've got a good eye for talent, man,
But so it was rewarding to see that work. We've
got another podcast. You wouldn't they approached us, these two
(26:51):
young twenty five year olds ones will give.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
It would be very funny. Yeah, yeah, both of them
very fun.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Given Pat Clifton fucking funny, unhing sort of jam and
woose loose topics, very loose.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Let's just say they wouldn't be approached by a breakfast radio. No,
the whole thing would be beat hilarious with.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
The two blokes on today. Did they come out of
the podcast?
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Well, Jimmy and Naith, Yeah, I know they I know
they do the breakfast show on Today FM. I don't
know if they will podcast first or if they do
a podcast now. I think they.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
I think they may have Tasmanian Jackson.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
I mean, is that really does that really count? As
far as.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
They're starting to make moves The Tasmanian Devils New AFL
team mascot, the mascot Dad. Maybe it's gonna be the
scariest thing. Imagine your kid there in that mascot.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
It's made out of old like school shoes or something like,
what are we doing just make a mascot? What the fuck?
We're out at the eels mascots crook as well? Yeahs
like a fur No, it's a human. Yeah, apparently it's
like a dude with like a man. Got a rabbit
on it as well.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Loop the beans and ship age.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
Yeah, while we're on Paramount, remember when I saw you
guys at the Paramatta game.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah, when we got the limo. I remember out there,
got a limo with us after the game.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
I rove back to tell about the story because he
wouldn't have heard this before.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
So we we went into Manly at one point to
like they just I think we were filming content like
a pre season media Day and we went into there
like games hangout room. They had a PlayStation four and
there's currently a PlayStation five out and we were like,
that's not fucking good enough.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
That's not You've got to remember as well. We merely
had been at narrabeen. They trained out of the demandables.
No one had a shower, like, it was all just
a bit bowing, a bit budget.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
We needed it, we.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Needed to give it. Well, now they're in the center
of excellence, Yes, we need to give them something that
is that matches the center of excellence. So we went
and bought them at PS five, got them like games
controllers and we got we got like what's it called,
We got getting skins. We had like our print of
us over the PlayStation and on the controller. Isn't it
just me and Eddie with Manly thirteen.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Plus took us chumps like four durs together and actually it.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Was it was a monk. So then we go all right,
like when can we give it to them? And the
media manager we organized it and was like, oh man,
he's playing para at Paramatta Combank. We were out there
to do a catch the ball at halftime thing or whatever,
and it was like you can give it to boys
after game because we mad in the shep we.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Get in a picny basket. It's got cellar phae.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah, it was like a hamper with a fucking place.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
And let me tell you something, it was the wrong
game to give.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
They got pup.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
It was the wrong in the sheep.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah. We were standing in the sheds like fucking maker
Wish kids afterwards, and everyone's walking in just fuming.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Like someone had died walking at one point just stared
at it.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
And in the end we were just like we could
probably just fucking put it down here, and.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
They're like, no, no, just wait for Jake, Just wait
for Jakie, I wait for a play.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
We're like, oh, it was we offloaded. Jake's such a sweetheart.
It's like he'll smile after anything, and you just like
he was there were like mat.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
We read the club the other day. We went to
check it was still there.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Still there, stick is still on. I thought they might
have peeled some stickers off after a couple of harsh
comments from us, but I still kept it on.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
Yeah, but then after the game, because yeah, we had.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Sometimes we like to like limos are obviously very ostentatious
and stupid, and that's like when we think, we like
we like to get him for the most unnecessary. Yeah,
so we got a limo from the studio out to combat.
We like that fucking real cheap champagne and there's always
a cheap bottle of champagne and a bottle of Fanta.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
That's like the bottle of Limo Mane was so good.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
And so we're just like, so we went out there
and then afterwards, did you come back with us? Or
did you? Because it was we got out of there.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
I was just walking to my car and I came
out at the wrong side of the stadium when I've
seen these guys like the head out of the limo
just like it was park like they were just like
dancing out at the top of the sun roof and
I was like, what's going on here? And they go coobs.
But then the weird thing was the driver of this limo,
Like he must have been the only Cooper John's fan
(31:24):
in the hole of Paramount of that day.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
He was the biggest Cooper Johns fan as well.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
He was I was like, I thought I was going
to get abducted. He was like, he goes, what the
hell and like put his handbake on and runs out
and I'm like trying to talk to the boys, and
he was just like relentless. He goes, you got to
he goes, you got to come in my limo, and
I'm like, in your limo. But then remember he was
like put your head out the sun roof and was
taking He made him stand out and I just wanted
(31:53):
to go home, and he was just like taking pictures
of me. And then he goes, can someone take a picture.
I'm going to get in there too, And this limo
visualize this. It was like it was like an awkward
size of limos. So it wasn't like the giant limousine.
It was like just big enough to call it a limo,
but it wasn't a limo. So he's come in the
sun roof and it was a tiny sun roof and
(32:13):
he's like squeezing next to me. We're like basically face
to face, and he's like, remember I had a beer
which he'd made me hold, and he was like, give
me give me the beer. Can you pretend to pour
it into my mouth?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
It was it was it was like train wreck ship
where we were just like talking to and there like wait,
what's what's the Limo driving to? What the fuck is
this super weird? He's having to stand up there with
the guy. I'd forgotten about that driver.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Dad. It was relentless Limos fun. There's nothing says like
you're on a mission.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
We're a big fan of Limo.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
We're in New York for the Grill Team. Once me
and Mark Guyer we get off Jackie, were you there?
Remember that Jackson nor in the way he was, so
we get off. He hasn't got a micy keep keeps
throwing were randled. We'll get to the airport and it's madness.
Everyone's coming on there, front and center. And this guy
goes it boys, you want to lift them? And I went, oh,
where are you from, brother, and he said, I'm from
Guyana And I went, oh, the home of Jeffrey du Jon.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
Who is he?
Speaker 1 (33:16):
A wiki twam for the west Is. He goes, yeah,
do you know Jeffrey? I know him very well, and
he goes, no problem coming the car. So we hopping
the Limmo and I'm thinking fuck hell, like okay, and
he's driving going, oh, man, I can't believe you know Jeffrey.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
You know, how do you know him?
Speaker 1 (33:33):
And I'm just making up this ship anyways, going, guys,
is Kangnac in the back. Just help yourself. We're you
just sculling the Kangnac. And then we arrive and I said,
he goes, no, no, no, any friend of Jeffrey's.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
No was going to give you.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
I will say you. Matthew's party trick is he has
a fact or knowledge about every place on Earth. So
whenever we travel, things like that just tend to happen
because he's skilled himself geographically on everywhere. So you can
strike up a conversation or bloods his way through a
convos sometimes like that, we'll get a free of them
with anyone, like all the time. You pride yourself on that.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
And there's other tricks too. My other, my other gift
has been taught myself into restaurants.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Oh really.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
So Tricia and I were in Vancouver and someone said, so,
where's good and where's a good meal? They said, Italian
just around the corner here. It is classed as probably
the best Italian in all of Canadates. We're going, wow, okay, fantastic.
Can you a book? And they said, I can't get
in it? Like literally six months I've gone, ah yeah,
and Tricia's very straight down the line, you know, yeah Italian,
(34:40):
you know what I mean. And she and I said, dohorry,
let's just turn up. She has oh no, no, Dad,
I said, just trust me. So anyway, I walk into
the restaurant and I'm up on my toes and hey, guys,
how are you? And they going Oho, sir, how are
you like? They're taking am back? I said, I am.
I'm just over the moon. I booked this twelve months ago.
(35:01):
It's my wife and it's twenty fifth and when an anniversary,
she goes, oh, and you picked here? I said, yes,
we're picked to you. So it's okay, what is this
table for? It was table too John's. She goes, let
me just check it. She goes down, just hold on
one second, and she goes out the back next to it.
She comes and goes, oh, there it is there. Actually
(35:26):
that is Jeanne.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
You're going to come in, you turn up and some
big occasion.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Yeah, they could never shut you down, not on your
twenty wedding.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Always come all the way from Australia twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
You know you're going to like wrestaurants. You're like, hey,
what's any special occasion. I'm always like, fuck, dude, I
should just be.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
I'm a big special occasion. Particularly at hotels, it's always
my honeymoon.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
It's always your anniversary.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
You always get upgrades. Yeah, yeah, right, nine out of
ten you'll get an upgroad.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:52):
And if you're at dinner, you say it's your anniversary,
always gets usert.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Yes, you always a.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Little cake, you get a better table all the time.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Yeah, I'm happy that I that's probably a bit much
of me. I'd probably go to water put in that
sort of pressure on them. It's like when you go
to get a shit haircut and your arm was always like,
oh what do you think about your hair? Why never
address it?
Speaker 4 (36:09):
You know, I'm not prepared to wear if the guy goes,
fuck off, you gonna come down off my tippy toes
and walk off.
Speaker 5 (36:16):
Those people that are like those people that always pull
up for if it's bad service or bad haircut, something
like that, and they go, I refuse to pay. I
have so much respect for those people because you have
got to have some big nuts to do.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, but then you see the people who you almost
think they just do it. It's like a racket where
They're like like if someone's actually fucked you around or
giving you a bad haircut, Like, mate, I didn't ask
for that. But then you see people when we're in
the Goldie Fuck. It might have been for Jarch's fight
last year. There was just this guy and you could
just tell he was just all like he he does
this every time. And he was like telling him like, well,
(36:48):
you said this, and then I said that, and I
was like I was listening to this whole thing, and
I'm like, he's actually done in the wrong this whole time.
But he just was like I'm not paying. I'm not paying.
Get me the manager. I'm like, fuck, I don't know how.
I don't know how people have that energy.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, Tommy can ask you, like I don't.
I don't like to do this too about you know,
talk about your legendary dad. I mean, Cooper hates talking
about me, your old man. I had a conversation with
you when I was blind and I said, mate, you've
got to get back on the road. And he goes, oh,
maybe it's a sensitive all that there. So it makes changing,
(37:22):
it's changing. He like, you must have had as a
kid so much fun because I was telling the boys
before he wasn't a record company. He did it all
out of the house.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Yeah, yeah, it's he would record everything out of the
house or like up with his friends, like his producer
Froggies place.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
It was.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
It was like, in hindsight, an interesting upbringing, I guess
in some regard, but it was very cool to see
I reckon. That's partially why, like I felt comfortable to
try and do this because I was kind of I
was exposed to it being an option. You know, like
if he just a fucking whatever nine to five, I
don't think I would have necessarily believed believe that it
(38:04):
was even a thing. I'd be like, what the fuck
are you doing? But I would see like all the
stuff at home he would record everything under the John
Wilkes Boothy'd call it, which he'd make it home with
just mattresses and he just put a blanket over it
and you know, both and get re erected every time
he was doing an album, and you know, like even
it's funny. I didn't even really think of it, but
(38:25):
he'd sort of pointed out in like the booklets that
he would have in his in maybe the wide world
of sports ones where it was like he'd photo shopped
his head onto like fucking some chick doing gymnastics and
had like his test he's popping out, or like him
surfing on a wave and there's a good, big, great
white And then when we started doing the podcast, we
just started photoshopping ourselves into ship all the time, and
he was like he sort of pointed out, and I
was like, oh, yeah, like you know, I think all
(38:47):
that sort of stuff just it seemed into me.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Yeah, well, I mean what people A lot of people
don't know even when they love the song of sorts
and not not a song but Australiana, which to that
point was in the eighties, to that point and maybe
still is the highest selling highest selling single in Australian
music history.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
It was at the time. I think Kylie might have
gone past him, but.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Your dad wrote it, Yeah, this is amazing formed it
and your dad wrote it.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
Yeah, it's crazy, and I like, you know, I certainly
don't have any Some people are like, you know in
the way you asked, there were like, oh, I don't
ask me Dad. I actually have no hang ups about
that at all. I think he's fucking one of the
funniest people we've ever produced, right, like I and that
Australiana is like so well written, you know, just the
(39:39):
whole thing, the way that wordplay all works.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
But every one of these is still funny as well.
It's genius. Listen to Bill Urie This Usual Life the
other day and there's so many little subtle things that
are just yeah, it's just it's junius. Yeah, it's brilliant.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
I'm on that one. Actually, that was my first debut
as a little child.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
I was saying, you you are on a couple?
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, we're all on them and a
few of them.
Speaker 5 (40:01):
So what did he use your fat?
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Like? There was I think like at the end of
Bill Lurie there was like some sort of I haven't
heard it for ages, but like there was some sort
of montage or something. Yeah, maybe it was like kids
being interviewed or it was his grandkids or something, and
I'm like, stick that up your ass, Tony Greg. Just
like the little highlights Richie too.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
There was one where mister Benno, can we get an autograph?
Goes He goes, yeah, no problem. Who do we autograph
it to?
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Ye? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Who do I make it out to?
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Just to dear He's like there were heaps of our
family members and like family friends and like in one
of them, Mum's just best friend who was just this
sweet English lady who ran like a hobby horse farm
in fucking Kangaloon in the Southern Highlands. Ollie. Dad just
loved her a voice so much he was like, can
you be my secretary for fucking fading away I think,
(40:52):
And it was just Ollie, like one of my sister's friends,
mums who Dad's just dragged on to be in the
fucking record.
Speaker 5 (40:58):
As it must be funny, like you're a kid. How
many some of the people he would have brought through
the house. Imagine some big names would have come through
to record out of the John Wilkes.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah again like not it was not weird at the
time now from no see that was that was part
of as well. He'd record everywhere I think he did,
like Kenny and those like in hotel rooms and ship dude.
John Wilkes could be erected anywhere that he was dragging
mattresses off hotel beds and.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Ship mobile yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know, like.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
They would record out of Jimmy Barnes's place, like he
had like a loft as part of like his this
fucking monster house they had in in Barrel, and like
we were very close growing up, our family, so like
there was that, you know, John Farnham to a lesser extent,
but like part of that all these people that I
would just sort of like see here or there, and
people that I probably don't even I would never even realized. Yeah,
(41:50):
but you know again only upon reflection we're like, oh, fuck, yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
That was It's funny. It's funny. You just mentioned Jimmy
Barnes's house in Bow. So we went there when it
was it New Year's or Christmas, New Year's thank you
Jackson New Year's party. Him and Dad were close and
come down to the farmboo. Anyway, Dad being Dad, had
a little bit of drink and Jimmy's dogs got lost,
right and anyway, so Dad went, all right, we'll break up,
(42:15):
we'll do a search. Party is quite a big property,
so everyone breaks off. It's midnight like New Year. The
fire was about to go. Anyway, I ended up finding
the dog. It was just they were it was scared
of the fireworks and it had hidden behind his bed
and I went, oh, everyone, we found the dog. Oh sweet, perfect.
Everyone sort of comes back from the scavenger hunt. Dad's
still not back, but no one noticed. And then and
(42:39):
I'm going, where's that? So I start walking out, going
Dad do this property? And I just hear his groaning groaning,
And I walked up and he'd fallen in a wombat hole?
Did he fallen asleep? And then he'd obviously woken up?
(43:00):
And the whole bottom half is stuck in what's going on?
To the house and say, can I get another adult
to like? It was so funny?
Speaker 2 (43:16):
And one bat?
Speaker 5 (43:16):
They get dangerous?
Speaker 2 (43:18):
Call the that's that?
Speaker 1 (43:22):
That that those people that picked up the one bat?
Speaker 2 (43:26):
Like what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (43:27):
And then it runs out after I couldn't watch it
felt bad.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
That's a warning.
Speaker 5 (43:38):
Noted that could be incriminating ten years time they use this. Yeah,
back on the old man. Does Billy ever like ring
you boys up and give his feedback? Or like, did
he do that at start helping you guys just like
Dad used to ring me and Jack? You know his
footy tips. This is Billy's area of expertise, Like did
he ever help you guys along the way?
Speaker 2 (43:56):
No? He would to be honest for the for the
longest period of time. I think he's a bit like
what the fuck is this? Like early on he would
never say that, and he never actually made that. Maybe
that was my own insecurities where I'm like, oh, I'm
fucking doing something the same, you know, not the same
at all, but you know, like in the same world.
But so I would sort of tell him sometimes and
(44:17):
he'd be like, oh, yeah, you know whatever. He didn't
really listen. It was only once. It's only once we
were started having some success. I think that he probably
even like took it seriously and listened to it. And
then it was more like you'd be like, oh, it's
not too bad, you guys, all right.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
And I was like, thank you, it's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (44:36):
But no advice.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
No, he doesn't really give us advice now, I think
because it isn't the same thing. Like he is a
creative mind who, like, you know, he comes up with
these fucking things, and like he might just tell you
something like he came up with the name for a
gambling show about even you know what I mean. So
there's certain things like that where he sort of and
he didn't even it might have him just been nuts.
(44:58):
He might have even just said once like he wanted
to get a horse and caught that and I was like, well,
I'm going to steal it. Yeah, but he's not a
big conversationalist, so the podcast side of things is not
like it's you know what I mean, it's us just
sort of talking ship. Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 5 (45:14):
So he doesn't like his proadcast side when he struggled
with that side of just getting in a room and
just talking ship for an hour.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
No, we've done, we've done.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
We've done a couple of bodies.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
But he's funny as he spins old yarns a lot.
Speaker 4 (45:28):
Yeah, and like what he used to talk about on
his tapes, you know, he's recording stuff like that. He
can shoot, he can definitely shoot, but it's not his
Breton butter. He's like name play and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, So he's certainly more just like you know,
there are also things like I mean, obviously this is
very specific, but like I'll talk to him about rugby
league sometimes or sport generally, and I now am like,
I know way more about sports than he does. He's
obviously like great at making it funny and like, yeah,
but he'll say some shit about rugby league. I'm just like, Dad,
shut out the fuck. I can't. I can't have what
(46:03):
the fuck? Mate? Like you know where He's like annoyed
one the other day about the player Uh Charlie was
a uh he he goes, mate, who do you reckon?
The best player I saw on the weekend was And
I'm like, fuck, man, I don't know. He's like, I'm like,
He's like, well, which game do you think I'm talking about?
I'm like there's eight fucking games. I'm like, I don't know, dud.
(46:24):
And I'm like, what days like Friday, I'm like, right, okay,
I don't what time six pm? I'm like, oh, Dad,
I don't know if I even watched that game. He's like,
chance nickel clock start that guy and it was like
a six ten against the Roosters. I'm like, what the
fuck even happened in that game? That fucking guy everything
he did and and I'm just like, oh jeez.
Speaker 1 (46:45):
I saw him once. Tommy, we had a thing of
triple and we took over a pub and we called
it the gym because it's one of those brilliant things
you know, radios ye come up dying and go left call.
We're going to do so people tell they're wives, what
are you doing off to the gym? So what do
we call it the church? Oh, we don't want to
do that anyway. So your dad turns up and we're
(47:07):
about two thirds way through the show. He's there for
last year. He turns up and there you're going like mad, fuh,
you know, and this joint's packed and he walks in. Mate,
he get up on the stage and he did half
an hour straight.
Speaker 5 (47:22):
We just stopped.
Speaker 1 (47:23):
We didn't play any music, we didn't get away a break.
It was unbelievable, just picked up off the energy of
the crowd and.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
His ability to just turn it on. Is I've seen that, yeah,
because he is he's like he doesn't sleep very well,
and he's like he's a typical creative, like you know,
he's fucking ups and downs, and but then he'll just
come on and just bang. And you're like, you'd have
no idea that he just was like half asleep or
couldn't be fux and then he just like and then
he just rips and he gets fucking nervous for it
(47:52):
as well, like you. And he's like he used to
do the backpage and I used to go in there
all the time and watch you and then he get
off the back page, which is not even in front
of a live.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
Audience, and be swawing just perfection.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Yeah, he's just Yeah, he's a massive perfectionist. That's partly
I reckon why he doesn't get back out and do
all that, because now it's like, you know, like he's
just he needs it to be one hundred.
Speaker 1 (48:12):
It would be a sold at all and all the
stuff he does, like you know, the stuff he does,
is it's not offensive, No, like it is not offense.
Is it's taking the piss? I don't think. I just
can't believe some people take offense as opposed to the boys.
Once and one of their mates went and saw Rodney
rood and concert Rodney. Rodney, Rodney's not that way, Jack
(48:34):
Jackson's a real real knock about. Yeah. Kid came back
and I said, oh, Harry, hell was Rodney rude? And
he just went, oh mate, he goes, mate, he has
even I took offense.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Yeah, Rodney's Rodney's punchy these days.
Speaker 4 (48:49):
Yeah, yeah, Rodney's Rodnie. Rodney's He's on the back end there, Rodney.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Well, yeah, you can't really No, I agree with you, though,
like I think the period of the world where like
it went very and whatever you and everyone was wigging out.
Now I think a lot of people like we've kind
of come out the other side. I think that was
where Dad was just like what the fuck is going
on world today? And so I think he's still a
little bit like gun shy after that.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
He still will hit me.
Speaker 2 (49:16):
That's one of the he'll always hit me with, like
an island a football name out of the blue. That's
like one of the things I still love where he's
just coming up with one and I'm like, oh, how
the cricket sceam was it?
Speaker 3 (49:27):
I love it?
Speaker 2 (49:27):
I love it?
Speaker 1 (49:28):
Who singer? Maybe with the gay bar just I love
the Jerry So you see you.
Speaker 4 (49:36):
That is.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
I'll send him like under twenties teams all the time,
Like I'll find like new Southwest cup sides.
Speaker 3 (49:40):
Are like Dad, how about it?
Speaker 4 (49:41):
Bro?
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Like there's so many good names.
Speaker 5 (49:43):
Have a crack.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
Yeah, before we let you go?
Speaker 5 (49:45):
Next five years sport?
Speaker 1 (49:47):
Whatever?
Speaker 5 (49:48):
What do we think of?
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Where to from here?
Speaker 1 (49:51):
You know, are you're going to follow Darth Vader's lead
and going to coffee and that sort of stuff.
Speaker 4 (50:01):
We've got our multi vitamins so hopefully that's kicking goals.
Yeah in terms of where we'll be still be dribbling
and yard yeah yeah, yeah, it's hard hard to predict.
Speaker 2 (50:10):
We get asked all the time like where do you
want to do or like what are the long term plans,
and like we've never really had them, and I don't
think we've Nothing we've done has been off the back
of like a long term plan.
Speaker 4 (50:21):
We're like, I think these just pop up and we
just roll with them in the moment, like we'll have
a great idea and we're like, fuck, let's do that.
Like that's just all the way the way we've always
operated as applis to planning five years out, just because
it's too hard to predict the mood will be in
or where where we'll be at.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
And also if you plan something and then when you
get to it doesn't feel organic, it's like that it's
probably not worth like you won't translate. Whereas like, for example,
with last year with the Olympics, we were like, fuck
the Olympics on in two weeks, like what are we
going to do? And then we're like, let's just get
a bed in the office and just stay up all
night and wash it and just live stream fucking every
night or anytime. We've got a gold Medaline. And so
(50:59):
we just did that and it went well, and I'm like, Okay,
this is more our speed rather than like thinking over
the Olympics in August, like what the are we going
to do?
Speaker 4 (51:06):
We've never been good planners always, we're always scrambling awful
awful husbands.
Speaker 5 (51:15):
Also, congratulations on fatherhood.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
Be part of the crew. Number number one, number one,
number one, little.
Speaker 5 (51:22):
Girl, Wow girl, welcome to hell. Is it good?
Speaker 1 (51:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (51:27):
Sleeping right?
Speaker 3 (51:29):
Touch wood perfect, touch wood.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
Yeah. We had a they asked going to on the
radio stations using Nova who on the platform and then
said we went Trisha and I went in there and
they asked us to see a question. They said, tell
us about the podcast and what does it represent? I said,
and I meant this scilly, I said, it's an educational show.
If your life's going great, you live in the dream.
(51:51):
Whatever you do, don't get married, it will destroy your life.
If you want to double down, have kids, triple down,
have to.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Now.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
Okay, thank you, oh thanks boys, thanks for coming over.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
Having us has been a lot of funny.
Speaker 5 (52:07):
Big rap you guys, bigger for coming over here.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (52:11):
We're massive fans, all three of us of the content.
We love it, especially the yarn you s had on
Peter Peters last year. That was my favorite one liner ever.
You guys said you can't trust the boat with two
first names, Peter Peters. You certainly it must be impossible
to trust with the same first name.
Speaker 2 (52:31):
I still keep.
Speaker 5 (52:33):
But thanks very much coming over.
Speaker 2 (52:35):
We appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (52:36):
On your
Speaker 2 (52:38):
Welcome you make boys
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