October 10, 2024 • 63 mins
Discover how GLP-1 medications are reshaping the landscape of weight management and health conditions such as PCOS. Through a tapestry of personal stories, including Alyssa's successful weight maintenance journey, Ashley's relief from PCOS symptoms, Andrea's wellness transformation, and Julia's candid decision to cease semaglutide due to adverse effects, we explore the multifaceted impact these medications can have on individuals. Our conversations with experts and clients aim to provide a comprehensive understanding of the benefits and risks, empowering you to make informed choices about your health in collaboration with your healthcare provider.
This episode also highlights the challenges and considerations of using GLP-1 medications, such as managing "semaglutide gut" and the importance of balanced approaches combining diet, exercise, and supplements. Julia's raw insights into the emotional and physical hurdles of weight loss drugs remind us of the broader implications on mental well-being and self-image. Ultimately, we advocate for a holistic view of health, one that transcends medication as a quick fix and embraces education, support, and a mindset prioritizing overall well-being. Join us as we navigate these personal experiences and expert insights to foster healthier, more empowered lifestyles.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Are you looking for a space where you will learn to
improve your mental strength,emotional health and heal your
insecurities from the inside out?
Take the first step to living amore meaningful life with the
Better Me with Body by Briepodcast.
I'm your host, brie.
I'm a certified personaltrainer, entrepreneur and mother
of three.
I've helped empower thousandsof women to take action through
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fitness, nutrition, meditation,personal development and
aligning thoughts with action.
This podcast is for those whoare ready to feel inspired and
motivated to live a morepurposeful life.
Let's grow together.
Welcome to the Better Me withBody by Brie podcast, where we
dive deep into the tools andstrategies that empower you to
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take control of your health andwellbeing.
Today, we're tackling one ofthe hottest topics in the
wellness world right now Ozempit, also known as semi-glutide, or
another common GLP-1 known astrizepatine.
It's a medication making wavesfor weight loss, but there's
more to the story than quickresults.
We'll explore the benefits itpromises, the dangers that come
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with it and how to navigate yourfitness and nutrition journey.
If you're considering oralready on this medication,
let's break it down together,because it's not just about
weight loss.
It's about making sure you arehealthy from the inside out.
For the last four months, Ihave dug deep into the peptide
world, learning from workshops,podcasts, research journals and
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interviewing top experts in thefield, and I wanted to share
what I found with all of myfollowers so that they can make
an informed decision for theirown health.
It's important for me to coverall the risks, the benefits and
first-hand experiences to bringa very raw and vulnerable
insight.
This episode is part two of athree-part series all about the
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truth behind GLP-1 medication,the benefits, risks and what you
need to know.
In this episode, I interviewfour clients who have had
personal experiences with GLP-1sand their stories.
I wanted to highlight Alyssa,who lost 60 pounds on
semi-glutide and then weanedherself off and kept her results
by training with the Body byBrie team and focusing on
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lifting to build muscle andshifting her lifestyle habits
for life.
Ashley has PCOS and tried amicrodose of triseptide after
her husband, who is a doctor,suggested that it could help
with her symptoms and she wasable to get off of her
spiralactone medication that shewas previously taking for her
PCOS.
Andrea has been on triseptidefor six months now and says it's
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been an answer to her prayersshe can quiet the food noise and
stick to her macros andcontinue lifting to feel her
best.
Julia was on the one of thefirst rounds of semi-glutide and
she didn't like how it made herfeel.
She decided to wean herself offbecause she didn't like being
on medication and it did makeher feel sick.
I wanted to try to get you asample of a lot of different
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firsthand experiences so you canmake your own decision for
yourself.
I'm in no way pushing people toget on this medication.
My goal is to educate and thenlet you decide what's best for
you.
I'm not a medical professionaland I have no medical background
, so, as always, please speak toyour trusted medical provider
If you have questions.
Let's learn together.
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This is Andrea and her personalexperience with triseptide.
Hi, andrea, how are you?
I'm so good.
How are you?
I'm good.
Welcome to the podcast.
I'm so excited.
I love that you were ready todo this.
Last minute I was talking toher and I'm like hang on, we got
to share your story.
Can I record our conversation?
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You're such a good sport.
I'm just always ready for apodcast.
You, you're such a good sport.
I'm always ready for a podcast.
You are, you're such a good.
I thought it was important toshare your perspective because
you're unique in the fact thatyou are super healthy.
You've been working out,consistently, tracking your
macros.
You have all these healthyhabits and you are using GLP-1s
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as a tool in your toolbox to getyou where you need to be.
But let's start from thebeginning.
Tell everyone a little bitabout yourself.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, so I have.
Actually, I think I've been.
I was just thinking in my mind.
I've been a client for probablythree years, but we met a year
ago at retreat met a year ago atretreat and I work in an HR job
, a desk job.
I I've probably developed somefood issues from a young age.
Uh, I feel like justgenetically, I have a fair
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amount of of muscle mass and sothat's always made it hard to
lose weight when you just feeldense.
But yeah, I've just beenworking with my Body by Breathe
program and I love it.
But yeah, I just was not seeingresults the way I wanted it to
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be and that's why I was feelingso, so discouraged.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
You felt like something was off, Like you've
been telling me that for a while.
Like Kate guys, I'm hitting mymacros Like something is off.
I'm doing everything I'msupposed to be doing and you're
so good at working out and doingall the things, so yeah,
exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I just was at a point where I thought something's got
to change.
And I wasn't.
My A1C wasn't in thepre-diabetic range, I didn't
meet the markers for having this.
My insurance cover this.
So I went to my doctor and saidwhat can I be doing?
Because this is what I am doingwith my workout program, my
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eating, but what can I do to seeresults?
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
So what did they say when you said that?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
She was super positive about it.
I said this is what I'mthinking and she said, yeah,
let's give it a try.
I've seen some clients haveseen our clients patients see
some really good success usingusing this.
Um.
I'm on a compounded triseptide.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Okay, that's what I was going to ask so you're on
triseptide and she wasencouraging it.
So tell us kind of what wasgoing through your mind.
You were excited about doing it?
Had you researched it?
Were you nervous about startingit?
Do you have any hesitations?
What were you thinking when youwere on this journey of
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starting?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, I was nervous that I would be told well,
you're not in this diabeticrange, so no, or I I've.
I actually came.
I was diagnosed with thecondition earlier this year.
I was nervous about would my,would my condition match up with
match up with this medicine?
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And so I actually talked to myprimary care and my allergist,
who are both very positive,because my allergist was saying,
yeah, actually there's somegood studies where we've seen
some they're seeing really goodresults from the GLP-1s helping
patients in with asthma andother kind of inflammatory
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conditions, and so she wasreally positive about that.
But I was nervous, thinking,okay, giving myself injections,
that sounds really scary.
I've never done something likethat before.
Is this going to work?
Am I going to be throwing up orhaving really bad intestinal
problems?
I didn't want to introduce thatinto my life because I've been
trying to kind of eliminate someof those things like reflux
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from my life.
So this was really kind ofunknown to jump into it.
But I was really, reallysurprised, and really happily
surprised, at how she reacted tome asking the question and was
really on board and supportive.
Yeah, and she wanted to knowother things that I was doing as
well my lifestyle, not justgiving me a medication as an
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easy fix, but to say what's yourlifestyle like?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Are you working out?
Are you hitting protein?
Do you have these healthyhabits?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I'm glad that she asked those questions for you.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
So what did you feel when you first started?
You started on the lowest dose,yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I don't know how it translates to the other because
it's compounded Right.
I was on 20 units.
It was compounded with B6 andB12.
And I started at 20 units andB12.
And I started at 20 units and Iactually was feeling really
good.
You know, first day ofinjection, my first couple of
weeks, I did feel a little bitof like soreness, but, and never
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any.
I really haven't had any nauseaor even any intestinal pain at
all.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Probably because you're on such a low dose, like
20 is very low, that's like thestarting dose, very, very low
Like yeah, yeah, okay, keepgoing.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
So initially with the , with the lower dose, I just
started recognizing when I wouldfeel full.
And that was something that waskind of missing in my life of,
and I felt like, oh my gosh,this is where I've been
self-sabotaging because, withouteven realizing it, because
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you're, I was misreading hungercues and like the satiety wasn't
there exactly, and so now I'mkind of able to eating and I can
say you know what I'm done, orthere's treats or things that
I've been wanting, you know,that were kind of calling my
name before.
It's like I'm good, I canactually say no and move on with
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life instead of just constantlyfeeling like I was on the prowl
for something to seduce me,yeah, so you felt really good on
it, like you're happy with yourexperience.
Yes, I'm very happy.
I'm sleeping better, my skin isbetter.
I, I, I.
When I upped my dose, becausewe went from 20 units to 40
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units, I did experience some um,irregularity, a little bit of
bloating, but I've been able tomanage that because I'm really
watching my protein and my fiber.
Really, holding in on fiber hasbeen a huge change just in even
the last week or two.
But I'm also balancing thiswith this.
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I have a whey allergy and sothat's kind of also I'm kind of
trying to understand was thattoo much dairy?
Was that too much?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
of this.
But that's like is the bloatingfrom this or from what you're
eating?
That's hard to tell why did youbump it up?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
So I was realizing, or is recognizing, that by about
day five after my dose it waswearing, I could tell it was
wearing off.
I was getting that like I'mhungry, I'm looking for things
and I just said and honestly, myweight loss was just like
petering out.
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That was probably about sixweeks in.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Okay, that was my question how long before you
felt like you had to up it alittle bit?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, that was about six weeks in and but I feel like
this dose I'm at right now Ican sustain this for a while.
I'm seeing, I'm my, my, uh, thesymptoms, I guess, or the
reaction to, or those negativeresults, the negative feelings
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from.
It is just kind of where I'mable to manage those but still
seeing weight loss.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It's still it's minimal, but that's what you
want.
You want it to be slow andsteady, or you will lose your
muscle and you want to be ableto eat.
I like hearing that.
I'm like great.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Part of your brain is saying lose weight fast,
because that's what you seepeople doing.
But my other, more rationalpart of my brain is saying it's
okay.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
It's good, it's healthy.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
This is what you want it to be yes, because I'm
maintaining my muscle mass, Ihave good energy, I'm losing,
you know, between one to twopounds a week, sometimes less.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
That's perfect.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
One to two pounds a week is golden, yeah, and so
I've been really happy with thatand just how I feel and the
food noise is a big one.
I was thinking about that theother day, kind of even saying
what is food noise.
I was having that conversationwith my sister and she's like
remember how you had that food.
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I developed a food fixation,kind of out of a stressful
situation.
It was about two years ago andfor a a year I was just I
couldn't do anything, focus onthis one brand of chip and I was
eating way too much of it and Icut it off and I've not had it
for a year but I still every day.
It was just like I need thisand it was like an addiction.
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It was an addiction, yeah, andI have.
I've realized I've not desiredthat for at least four months
why I could go and I was like mein my skin and then seeing
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results from my efforts has beensuch a confidence booster
because I was just constantlydown on myself.
I felt like a failure and itwas translating into other areas
of my life where I just feltlike I can't do anything right.
I can't even control my hunger,I can't control my body, All of
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these things.
I know I have a control issue,but that was just really-.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
No, that takes a toll on you mentally and even
talking.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
so I work with a primary care physician, an
allergist and a therapist and myBody by Brief team.
I have this whole team aroundme to feel like I am worthy of
good things and also justfeeling like I can make this
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happen.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
It's hope I can achieve this.
It's giving you hope.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah, and to feel proud of yourself, like, yeah, I
love that.
That's.
I'm like we need to remove theshame.
We need to remove the shame ofthis.
People just don't understandand that was me.
I am the person that didn'tunderstand.
Like I only saw people throwingup, losing hair, losing muscle
mass and I'm like why are wetrading being healthy for being
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skinny people?
But I didn't realize that youcould do two, I guess, programs
or two ways, and one is theobesity route and the other one
is a longevity route and it'smicrodosing these smaller micro
doses where people feel amazingand peptides are naturally
occurring in the body and sowhen you start seeing people
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using these like this is betterthan you know if you were to do
any like a different medicationwhere you're introducing a
foreign substance into your body.
Like GLP ones are naturallyoccurring and they're part of a
branched chain amino acid.
So I do feel like there's ahealthy way to do this and I do
feel like it's exciting to seethe success of clients that are
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doing it the healthy way andthat feel amazing and I can see
like the light in your eyes.
You're just like you're like Ifeel so good, I'm so happy and
that's amazing for you and and Ithink you did it the right way
by having a support team and nottrying to do it on your own and
not going as high as you can,like staying as low as you can
for as long as you can.
(15:56):
Yeah, what do your doctors sayabout how long you can be on it,
or can you be on it forever?
Do you need to cycle off?
Like what are they saying toyou?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
You know I've been seeing her every month and so
I'm on month.
So I just finished my fourthmonth.
So, um, actually no third month.
And um, I've, I'm following upwith my doctor every four weeks
and and really they've told methat this is safe enough to you
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could be on it for a life if youneeded it.
Right, mainly for diabeticreasons.
Right, I'm not diabetic.
So I first, I see myself givingto a comfortable weight.
I know that I'm not because ofmy, my genetics.
I know I'm never going to beJennifer Aniston.
You know that's'm not becauseof my, my genetics.
I know I'm never going to beJennifer Aniston you know that's
just right how my build, but Iknow I can give you a healthy
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weight where I feel strong.
That's my main.
My main goal is strong and andjust feeling my best, where I
can enter the next half of mylife feeling like I can.
I can be strong and take careof myself and the needs I have.
But I I foresee myself probablytapering off once I get to a
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desired weight and how I feeland just I don't know what that
weight is.
I hate to put a number on it.
I just want to feel strong.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yeah, I think you'll know.
I think you'll know I've hadsome friends that they were on
it and I had one friend lose 60pounds and three of those pounds
were muscle because she liftedevery day.
She was really intentional.
She took, I think it was sevenor eight months to lose the
weight.
It was a very slow, steadyprocess and then, because she
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was doing all the foundationalthings, when she weaned off of
it, she completely weaned off ofit.
She's like I feel amazing.
She didn't gain any of theweight back and she's like I
feel so good and that waspromising to me to be like, okay
, you could be on it forever ifyou needed, but also, if you
don't want to be, you don't haveto be Exactly and it doesn't
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automatically mean that you'regoing to gain the weight back.
If you have these foundationalhabits.
And also I think it helps, likeyou said, with that food noise,
I feel like it also helps whenyou're eating healthy, then you
recognize how good your bodyfeels and so, even if you are
off of it, I do feel like you'regoing to remember, you know, oh
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, I feel so good not eating thatsugar or not eating the junk
food, or man, that feels so goodto not be bloated and now my
gut health feels so good.
It's like giving you thatlittle push that maybe people
need.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
So yeah, exactly, and some of the things I have in my
little arsenal of supplementsthat helps me.
Digestive enzymes, I mean noone's going to say this yes, but
my digestive enzymes, myprobiotics, I mean those were
always daily for me.
But I'm taking fiber, I'm justtrying to help my body run its
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best, which there's a lot ofthings that I had been running.
I didn't realize it wasn'tnormal.
Yeah, that, like TMI, you knowyour regularity of your bowel
movements.
I didn't realize what I wasexperiencing was not normal,
right, and now I'm having morenormal experiences there and I'm
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like, wow, this is what aperson's supposed to feel like.
This is kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
That's amazing.
That's so cool.
I'm so happy for you, Andrea.
I really am so happy for you.
I'm so glad that you're doingthis in the healthiest way
possible.
You have a supportive teamaround you.
You have your Body by Breedteam that's cheering you on and
helping to make sure that you'rehitting your calories, which
you are, and I mean she's stilleating.
You guys, like 1,800 calories,like three meals a day, snacks,
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like you are still eating.
You're not not eating.
And I think when we see thosescary stories, it's the people
that are on way too high of adose and they're not eating and
they're malnourished, and that'swhen you see the scary stuff
happen.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
So yeah, I'm, I'm enjoying.
I'm enjoying cheat.
I'll say treat meals, yeah, andeven right now I ran out of my
daily chocolate.
I have like two dove chocolateswith my lunch and I feel like
this is great.
And I have a cookie every oncein a while.
I just am enjoying that.
And I have a cookie every oncein a while.
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I just am enjoying that.
I can eat like a normal personand still see results, because
I'm really putting in this work.
And when I showed the doctor, Ipulled up my body by Brie app
and I showed her this is whatI'm doing and this is how I
track, and she was like this isfantastic, I'm so glad you're
doing this, so yeah, and thenthat team, I can't just.
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I'm just so happy, I'm just, I'mjust found this happiness
inside me.
Even people who have no ideawhat I'm doing outside of work,
in the gym, whatever they'resaying, there's something,
there's something differentabout you, what's, what's
different?
And I'm like there's something,there's something different
about you, what's?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
what's different and I'm like I just feel so good.
Yeah, it's that hope, thatconfidence, that inner
confidence.
You know that you're keepingyour word with yourself, that
you are making progress, likethat's everything.
So whether you're you're ontriseptide or not, that's an
amazing feeling.
You know like that's just sucha good feeling.
And yeah, I'm really, reallyproud of you and I'm happy that
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you can keep these healthyhabits and be with the Body by
Breed team and continue to, youknow, build that muscle and feel
your best.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
So I just consider it one of the tools in my toolbox,
my little arsenal of thingsthat are helping me feel my best
, and yeah, I just was.
I've been so inspired by yourteam and by others I've seen and
just really what it was justlooking to find find Andrea
inside, inside Cause.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
I knew she was in there.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I just needed to find her.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Oh, I'm so happy for you, Andrea.
Thank you for sharing yourstory and being vulnerable and
getting it out there.
I think you're going to help alot of people with your story.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Thank you, thanks to you and everything you've done
for me, I'm just so happy?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Why are you getting emotional?
What are you feeling?
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Because it's just that notion of like I was.
I was always a chubby kid and Iwas told I was told that by
everyone and I thought chubbywas a cute word until I realized
it wasn't and what they werereally saying and I've just
never felt like I was seen forwho I am.
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But I've always been, if youthink about, like there's the
main character in a movie andI'm always the chubby funny
friend and I feel like I'mfinally finding myself at 45.
I'm finding my worth.
I knew it was there and weightloss shouldn't matter, but I
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just, for all the things I'vetried, for all the things I've
felt and felt like a failure inthis has been such a such a
freeing experience to realize Ican do hard things and and it
pays off.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yes, you don't feel like you're treading in mud, you
feel like your efforts areworking.
Yep, that's so beautiful and itis an emotional experience.
All of this is so emotional, soI'm glad that you shared that
part of your journey, becausethat's the why, right?
That's the whole reason, thewhole reason behind everything.
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It's not just to fit in yourgenes, that's not why.
Finding that deeper, why is sopowerful and I think a lot of
people will be able to relate towhat you just said.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Thank you for sharing and being so vulnerable.
I just love you, andrea.
You're such a light.
You're the main character in mylife, andrea, you're such a joy
.
You're the leading lady.
You're the leading lady youlike.
Bring so much joy to any roomthat you walk into, like.
You're just such a gem and sospecial and I'm really happy
that this is helping you feelmore confident about yourself.
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Thank you.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I think it started back honestly.
I mean, I've been a client fora while, but it started at
retreat.
I found Andrea and so that'swhere I was like I know she's in
there.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
I've got to release this beast yes, she's talking
about our Body by Brie retreatthat we did.
Oh, I love that and and I saw apart of that when you were
going down that slide that wasterrifying jumped off the ledge,
jumping off the high dive thateveryone's terrified to do.
You're like, I got this.
I saw that andrea coming out.
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That's so fun.
Well, thank you for sharingyour story.
I really appreciate you, andrea, thanks Brie, thank you.
I'll talk to you later.
Bye, this is Julia and herpersonal experience weaning off
semi-glutide.
Hi, julia, welcome to thepodcast.
How are you?
I'm good.
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How are you?
I'm happy to be here.
I'm so excited you're here.
I just was laughing because wewere talking about how long
Julia has been a client and shesaid she's been a client on and
off for 10 years.
That's crazy, that's amazing.
That's so cool.
I love it.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
We've done lots of challenges.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
How many workouts do you think you've done with Body?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
by Free.
I wonder if I can log on and itwill tell me.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
That would be so fun.
Hundreds Probably a lot.
Hundreds, hundreds, yeah, allright.
So, julia, I wanted you on thispodcast because I wanted to
share your unique experiencewith GLP-1 medication.
So when I posted hey, I want toshare other people's authentic,
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real experiences Julia reachedout to me and was like I want to
share my story, and I thinkit's a very powerful story.
I think it's something thatpeople really need to hear the
good, the bad, the ugly,everything and so I think it's
really great to hear fromsomeone firsthand, not just
reading research, but yourpersonal experience, and that's
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what we're going to talk abouttoday.
But before we start, tell usjust a little bit of a
background of who you are, whatyou do, your family.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Okay, my name is Julia.
I've been a member of Body byBree since the beginning.
When I started following you onInstagram, you had 2000
followers.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
You're an OG.
This is really cool, Julia.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
This is really cool, so it's so fun.
I totally believe in what youdo.
I have five kids, onebiological, four step and busy
mom.
I just really scaled back in mybusiness.
So I'm a cosmetic laserpractitioner, so I do laser work
, a lot of cosmetic work,pre-surgical, and I work in a
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busy medical office and so a lotof times I'm a guinea pig for
some things that come out.
And that's where my GLP-1semiglutide started was yes, it
was coming out and I volunteered, for whatever reason.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Okay, so let's get specific.
So when was this?
When did you volunteer to bethe guinea pig for it?
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Okay, I would say January, probably of 2023,
because insurance was justcutting all the GLP-1s on people
who did it wasn't a medicalnecessity, so people were having
to start to pay for it and wefound some pharmacies that were
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willing to compound it.
So we wanted to see how well itwould work, what the side
effects were, what we liked inthe compounds, what we didn't
like.
The initial one that I took wasbright red.
It had B vitamins in it, whichwould help with the nausea and
the energy levels, and it workedwell, I would say In the
(28:25):
beginning, it's say in thebeginning.
It's really cut back myappetite.
So shall we say medicalanorexia a little bit, just
because you didn't want to eatbut you didn't have the hunger
pains.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Well, okay, let's start from the beginning.
So first I want to know yourmotivation for wanting to try it
.
Okay, so tell me yourmotivation of why you were
looking in.
And specifically, you told methis is semi-glutide, yes, okay,
so why were you wanting to bethe guinea pig?
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What was going on internallyfor you?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Okay, I think this.
I'm not going to cry duringthis podcast Great.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
I want you to cry.
I want you to be real andvulnerable, like people.
People need it, they need it.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yes, um, so okay, then I'll just start out crying,
um, that's okay.
It just stems back to neverbeing good enough for myself,
which is something huge that youpreach, and I think that's why
I have always come back andwanted to be a part of your
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program, because it's soimportant, I think, for people
to love who they are and to alsounderstand what their body is
capable of.
I am proud to have a reallystrong body.
I have a lot of muscle and myframe.
So I'm 5'4".
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I generally ride around 150pounds.
I'm never going to be 120pounds.
I would look very unhealthy at120.
But for some reason, I alwaysam like, no, I can look very
unhealthy at 120.
And but for some reason, Ialways I'm like, no, I can be
130 again, but my lifestyledoesn't want that.
You know like I'm not willing,I'm not, I can't do that, and so
(30:17):
.
But before this time, I alwaysjust wanted to be that number.
I wanted to be smaller,skinnier, obsessively smaller,
and so when this first came out,it was kind of the miracle
weight loss medication.
It's something the kind that Itook you you inject yourself.
(30:38):
There's a lot of clinics thatmake you come in to inject this
one I actually did myself.
I don't know if it's becauseI'm a medical professional or I
can do it, whatever.
But um, I just wanted to besmaller and so I decided to be
the Guinea pig because I waslike great I'll, we'll see if it
works.
If it's a miracle, awesome.
So mentally I wouldn't say Iwas in a great spot, because I
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just wanted to be skinnier Rightand and I guess that's where it
started, time one.
I've been on it twice, so thefirst time that's where it
started, okay, and I startedtaking it and at first it was
fine, I didn't really have anybig issues.
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And then it started.
So it slows down your digestionand they say it's so that your
body has time to pull outnutrients At least back then.
That's what it slows it down,so that your body has time to
pull out more nutrients.
But on the bad side of it issometimes it just rots, like the
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food gets in your stomach andit just turns into just rotten
food and then you get foodpoisoning.
Essentially, a lot of peopleare hospitalized because that's
what happens and they don't feelgood.
Their stomach hurts so much sothat they feel like they need to
be hospitalized.
I wasn't, I ended up not goingto the ER.
Mine didn't get that bad.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yes, pause, let's back up.
Sorry, before you start goinginto that, I want to like paint
the picture of what you werefeeling and and what was
happening.
So let's talk about your firstinjection.
So how, what was your dose?
And I want to know were theychecking in on you Like?
Were they like, okay, how'syour appetite?
How are you feeling?
Let's start with this startingdose.
(32:33):
So, what was your starting dose?
Do you remember my starting?
Speaker 3 (32:36):
dose was 20 units, okay.
And?
And you rotate where you put it.
My first dose was in my stomach.
You put it anywhere there's fatStomach, back of the arm, your
booty, and you just rotate weekafter week, okay.
And then oh, what were yousaying?
(32:57):
I was going to say it doesn'thurt, I do want to see a needle,
oh it doesn't hurt.
I have a needle, show us aneedle.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Show us what it looks like you, yeah, show us the
needle.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Show us what it looks like you do it once a week,
right?
This is the needle.
Yep, once a week, every sevendays, and the needle is tiny.
Can you see that?
Yeah, that's tiny.
Yeah, you can put it all theway in and it doesn't hurt.
You might feel a little prickon your belly but it doesn't
hurt, at least for me.
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I'm not scared of needles.
Yeah, my daughter actuallywould give me the injections
because she wants to be a doctor.
So I was like perfect, let'sstart you out at nine.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, so I'm going to get to that because I want to
know what you, how.
You talked about that with yourdaughter, so I want to get to
that too.
Um, so tell me, what did youfeel on your first and second
injections?
Did you feel okay?
Did you feel nauseous?
What were some of your sideeffects?
Or were you like this isawesome.
I don't have an appetite.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Pretty lethargic, not a lot of energy, nauseous for
the first couple days.
It's kind of like did you everhave braces?
When they tighten your bracesit hurts for a couple days and
then there's, it doesn't hurt.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
It was kind of like that.
Okay, so the first few daysafter you inject, I've heard, is
like the highest dose, so youdo feel a little more nauseous
and then it kind of evens out.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Okay, yeah, you feel a little nauseous and then,
probably by the end of the week,is when I would start to get my
energy back and feel normal,and then it's time for another
injection.
So then you give yourselfanother injection and then the
cycle starts over.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I think for the first month I did 20 units and then
I'd start going up by five everyweek and slowly so in the first
month, when you're feeling that, do you think you were tired
and lethargic because youweren't eating enough calories,
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or was it because of the shot?
So do you think if you wereeating enough calories that you
wouldn't be tired and lethargic,Like?
Your glucose levels areprobably super low because
you're not eating enough, right,yeah, what?
What were you eating?
What do you think your calorieswere when you were on it?
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Um, oh man, that's a great question.
I usually, when I track, I tryto stay around 1800 to 2000
calories, depending on what I'mdoing.
I would say in the first coupleof days, when you're super
nauseous, maybe 1200 calories.
Oh sweet, that's a huge cut.
(35:30):
Yeah, but I wasn't trackingeither.
So I mean, some days are more.
I do know that when you wouldeat something really greasy,
like a hamburger or something,just something unhealthy, it
would make you sick.
I did notice that.
So it's almost like it wouldforce you to eat healthier by
default because you're like no,I don't want to eat that,
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because it makes me feel worse.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Yeah, it's like when you're getting over the flu and
you're like I just want fruit,right, like maybe that feeling
I'm imagining like the beginningstages of being pregnant, where
you kind of just want likesmoothies and like lighter stuff
because you're kind of a littlebit on the verge of nausea.
That's what I would assume.
Is that what you're describing?
Okay, that's what my friendshave said that are on it.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
And I didn't have as bad as nausea as some people, or
some people like debilitatingnausea, like they couldn't get
out of bed.
Yeah, they lost 30 pounds ineight weeks, but yeah Cause they
couldn't survive Cause you'resick.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
That's like saying I had the flu and I was.
I was in bed all week, but atleast I lost five pounds.
You're like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
It's going to come right back.
Yeah, so I'm glad I didn't haveit as bad as some people.
It's going to come right back.
Yeah, so I'm glad I didn't haveit as bad as some people.
I think it's because Inaturally eat pretty healthy
anyway.
Yeah, but once, like when youwould eat a steak or pork, red
meat that would just really sitin your stomach and fester.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
And so you kind of had to learn how to eat.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
There is a learning curve, but once you figure out
what works, then for the mostpart it's okay.
You have some bad episodes.
Once you get over that, thenyou're okay.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
So do you think that it matters on how nauseous you
are?
What I've heard is that dosingmatters.
So if you have a higher dose,you're more nauseous.
So do you think that thatmatters, in like, what you're
prescribed and how you react toit is your dosing or do you
think it's the actual?
Speaker 3 (37:37):
It is the dosing.
I think that's why I wasincreased so slowly, because you
kind of get used to it.
Okay, how did?
If I was super nauseous at, say, 40 units, then I wouldn't go
up the next week, I'd wait tillmy body was okay.
With 40 units, I got all theway up to 65 units, I think,
which is a lot.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yeah, that's like totally slowing down your whole
gut.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
And I think that's why there is such a problem is
because people are gettingoverdosed.
Because you're like no, I wantto be skinnier, skinnier,
skinnier and yes, turns into anissue.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
So let's tell the rest of your story.
So you said the first part ofof it was great.
You were losing weight, youfelt fine, mild side effects.
And then what happens?
Speaker 3 (38:27):
So I didn't lose weight as fast as a lot of
people.
Again, I think it's because Inaturally work out, eat
healthier, and so just I waspretty much just forcing the
weight off by having lowercalories.
So there are.
I had a friend who lost in likesix weeks, 20 pounds, but she
couldn't get off her couch.
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That's so unhealthy.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I know, can we just talk about how unhealthy that is
?
That that's not like, that'snot something to brag about.
That's not a flex, that's.
That's very bad.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Yes, that's a very terrible way to lose weight, so
I'm kind of glad mine came offslower because I did have to
keep functioning in life andthen, and since I was the guinea
pig, I would kind of reportback like, okay, I'm fine, I'm
fine.
Well, I almost died last nightand I remember and a lot of
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people go through it, I don'tknow.
Like we talked aboutmicrodosing.
Those people probably don'thave this problem.
It's the people that aresteadily increased.
That we now know is an issue.
Back then I feel like we didn't.
And you get to a point whereyou're really constipated and
then it turns into diarrhea,because that's just what happens
to your body.
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And I remember I and it's kindof I call it the giggle diarrhea
because there's no stopping it,you just laugh through it.
It's just, it's hilarious andit.
I remember I got up in themiddle of the night giggle
diarrhea went to the bathroomand I remember I had, like this,
really, really bad pain in my.
(40:03):
It was in my stomach, lowerstomach, I would say, like
ovaries, like period cramps,severe period cramps, and I
remember thinking, oh my gosh,and it wouldn't stop, wouldn't
stop.
And then I was like, is thisone of those times where I need
to go to the emergency room?
I remember having this internaldialogue and I was like, okay,
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I'm going to wait for it to stop, I'm going to get up and get my
husband and tell himsomething's wrong, I need to go
to the ER.
And then I stood up and it gotreally, really bad.
So I sat back down and then itwent away and I was like, okay,
and then it came back again onemore time and then again I had
the internal dialogue.
I got to stand up, I got to goget my husband so we can go to
the ER.
And then I stood up and it wentaway and it never came back.
(40:50):
I have heard of people havingcyst rupture.
I don't know if that's what itwas.
I can't confirm that's what itwas, but from anything I've read
, that's what it sounded like.
I didn't have any bleeding, Ididn't nothing, but that's just
what it felt like.
It was just very uncomfortableand a lot of people have that to
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the point where they do go tothe D E.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
R and and they just call it semi-glutide gut.
So did you ever have to go tothe ER, or it was more like just
a lot of pain that you werefeeling A lot of pain and it
went away, so I didn't if itwould have persisted.
Oh, okay, for some reason, Ithought you did have to go to
the ER.
Okay, I didn't.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
I know several people who have Okay, and it's funny
because I would tell people.
So I changed my med spa name toinclude weight loss because we
were like this is a miracle, weneed to tell everybody about it
and and so I would actually tellpeople you're going to feel
like you're going to die, it'sfine, it will pass.
I'm like it's just a glutidegut, it's food poisoning.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
I feel like that's not good.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
That is not good to me.
This is like red flags flashy.
As a wellness person, Obviouslyyour dose either was too high
or it didn't sit well with yourbody, I don't know.
For me, gut health is yourcenter of everything.
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So I'm like do not mess withyour gut health thing.
So I'm like, do not mess withyour gut health.
So that makes me, I think,hearing what you're saying is
maybe the dose was super high,because if you're not going to
the bathroom and it slows toalmost a halt and it has time
for that food to rot in yourintestines, that's a problem.
And that's the scary part ofwhen people are like I need to
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lose faster, I need to lose more.
I wanted to lose 10 pounds in aweek or I wanted to lose 30
pounds in two months, Like allthese other people.
That's the danger.
Like this is the dark side thatcan happen and that's super
scary.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Yes, and that's an interesting fact.
So I was testing out adifferent.
I take all of your supplements.
I was testing out a new one.
I won't say which one it wasbecause I wanted because I was
on board with their skincare andhow they talk about your body
(43:20):
manifests through your skin.
It's you know, an organ, so Iwas trying out a new probiotic
digestive enzyme.
During this time I had fourUTIs and food poisoning twice,
so do you think it's?
Speaker 1 (43:38):
I don't know the shots or because of the case.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
So the second time I told myself I'm going to take
breeze, digestive enzyme,probiotics, salmon oil, all the
things, and that'snon-negotiable.
And I didn't get a uti or foodpoisoning the second time, so
right there if you need.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
I've actually read I have actually read the research
that you should be taking adigestive enzyme if you're on
GLP-1 medications and aprobiotic to help with your gut
health.
So that is amazing.
I'm so excited.
The second time around did yougo slower and do lower doses?
Speaker 3 (44:19):
No, I did it about the same, and so the second time
.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
This is leading up to the second time.
Yeah, let's back up.
I want to know why you stopped,what you felt when you stopped,
and then why you decided to doit again.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Yeah, so the first time I got food poisoning for
the second time, which we did goto a sushi bar.
We had raw salmon.
Okay, a lot of us got foodpoisoning that wasn't bless me
Okay, everybody else's was thenormal food poisoning that came
and went in a couple of days,whereas mine, I think I was on
day 10 and I still had massivepain in my stomach.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Well, if you think of that food sitting in your
stomach for so much longer, itmakes sense Like you're
literally poisoning yourself fora lot longer.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Yeah, yes, so I actually went off cold turkey
because I had had so many issuesand so I was like, okay, this
medication is going to kill me,I don't want to be on it anymore
, and so I just stopped takingit.
I still had some in my fridge,just like this time.
I still have some in my fridge,just like this time, I still
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have some in my fridge.
And I just, completely, coldturkey, went off.
And how did you?
Speaker 1 (45:28):
feel when you went off.
I felt fine.
I remember my.
You didn't feel ravenous orlike feel like, and how much
weight had you lost before youquit, and how much weight had
you lost before you quit I wouldsay I probably lost 10 pounds
total.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
This was over about six or seven months.
Oh, okay, so this could havebeen done with diet and exercise
for me personally, yes, but Ikept telling myself it was the
magic shot that was doing it.
I wasn't exercising during thetime because I didn't have
enough energy.
I felt like that's the problemI always hear yes, and so I was
(46:10):
like and I'm on magic medication, I don't need to exercise.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
There's so many thoughts that just go through
your mind that's what I want tochange are those thoughts that
you need to do it fast and thatyou don't have to work out and
that you don't need to eatenough protein.
I'm like, if you're going to doit, let's do it healthy.
So okay, keep going, Keep going.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
So then I went off and that's when I started doing
my bulk with you.
So I intentionally was eatingmore and we did slowly work me
up, so it wasn't like all of asudden I was going from dieting.
Yeah for sure.
And reversed me up.
I gained a lot of muscle.
I think I ended up gaining 25pounds and my lifts were amazing
(46:54):
.
Like I felt so powerful, sostrong.
And then it got to a pointwhere I was like okay, I think
I've got enough on here, I'mfine.
I was starting to feeluncomfortable because my you
told me I would get fluffy.
I did, I got fluffy and and Idecided I just I was time, I
wanted to be done with my bulkand so I did a cut.
(47:15):
I don't remember how manycalories 200 calories maybe that
we cut.
And then, after six weeks ofcutting, I remember I had gained
a half a pound.
So I was like, oh geez what'sgoing on?
Speaker 1 (47:29):
We probably needed to do a more aggressive cut, but
okay, keep going yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
And when it comes down to it, I mean, yes, I was
eating the numbers, but I wasn'tnecessarily worried about
micronutrients, it was more getthe numbers in.
I wasn't doing it grittingly.
But that's just where I wasmentally.
I was preparing myself to beconvinced to get back on the
stomach and so I was like no, Iwant to be skinnier, this isn't
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working.
Nothing works because you do.
You want an easy way out.
So I had talked to the nursepractitioner again.
I said I was on a cut and Iwasn't losing as fast as I want.
She's like well, just get backon semi-glutide and let's just
see how the second time goes.
So I did.
I got like twist my arm, no,give me the magic.
So I got back on it.
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Second time wasn't as bad.
I did not have the sameformulation.
It was still semaglutide.
It did not have the B vitaminsin it.
There was a little bit of thelethargic feeling, but you'll
find this interesting.
So this was shortly after yourmanifest book challenge and I
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had manifested that morningabout should I get back on this
medication?
And I got a no, do not do it.
And I still did it.
Interesting, can you believe it?
I know I felt guilty the wholetime because I did get a
confirmation.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
You felt like you were going against your gut
instinct.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
Okay, and I was able to increase doses faster.
I started at 20 units but Ididn't have to be on it for a
month.
I think I did it for two weeks,went up to 25 units and I was
able to increase quickly up to65 units.
I was probably going up 10units a week as opposed to five.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
I didn't have the nausea up 10 units a week as
opposed to five.
I didn't have the nausea.
Were you able to still eatenough calories to keep all that
muscle that you worked so hardto gain?
Speaker 3 (49:30):
I know, right, I wasn't tracking again.
You know you convince yourselfof all these silly things, and
but I was eating healthier, Iwas taking, but again, I still
wasn't working.
I remember Ashley messaged me.
She's like Julia, you haven'topened your app.
Yeah, so long, that was duringthat time.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
So what's going on here?
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (49:53):
You're usually consistent.
You just did a bulk what'sgoing on, yeah, and which was
another shout out to yourprogram.
Like, you guys care about yourpeople, we do, we do, we care so
much, yep, and so that was kindof motivation for me.
Fine, I'll get back working outand there's um.
I have some friends that teachsome fitness classes, so I would
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go to the fitness classes, I doyour program and um, but this
time I didn't.
I had completely differentsymptoms.
I had what they call sulfurburps.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
Have you heard of those?
One of my friends was talkingabout it.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
Yeah, yeah, it was like constant the whole time.
In fact, I was out with somefriends and, um, my friend kept
blaming the guy behind us sayingthat he was farting, and then I
started realizing it wasthrough the whole night.
She's like, oh my gosh, itsmells so bad, you guys.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
And then I started realizing it was every time I
burped like it smelled, likeit's like the rotting food in
your stomach, like coming out.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
It was me.
It was me.
So, friends, if you'relistening to this, that was me
the whole time.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
Yeah, and I had those .
Was that when you were on thehigher dose, the 60 milligrams?
Yeah, so that didn't happenwhen you were on a lower dose,
because maybe it wasn't sittingin your stomach as long.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
Once you get to the higher dose.
But I had it every day, all day.
I was talking to my brotherhe's really in a fitness, really
in shape and he's and he kindof told me he's like what, like
what are you eating?
And and I started kind oftracking what I was eating when
I would get the sulfur burps.
And, um, tick talking how toget rid of sulfur burps.
(51:38):
They were so gross,tick-tocking how to get rid of
sulfur burps.
They were so gross so theysmelled so bad.
Um, and it was after.
I ate real protein, like anychicken, any pork, anything
that's hard for your body todigest.
So then of course you knowyou're like, oh well, maybe I
should stop eating protein,which I knew was bad.
I'm like so healthy food is nowan issue, yeah and um.
(52:01):
Food is now an issue, yeah andum.
And that I, like I told you Ihad my daughter the second time.
She was the one giving me theinjections and I remember just
being like what am I teachingher Cause?
She asked me one day she loveddoing it, she was the one that
would come to me on Sunday nightand be like mom, we need to do
your shot this week.
Yeah.
And one day she asked me onSunday night and be like mom, we
(52:22):
need to do your shot this week.
Yeah.
And one day she asked me she'slike what's this for mom?
And I remember I just stoppedand I didn't want to say to get
in here, but that's why I wasdoing it.
And I just remember I justlooked at her and I just said,
um, this is supposed to help myfood absorb nutrients better,
because I want to be skinnier.
And she said why?
(52:42):
And I just was like I don't, Idon't know, because in her eyes
I'm like the most beautiful,strongest, most amazing person.
And that's kind of when it hitme, when I was like why am I
doing this?
This is not something that Ishould be doing, nor should I be
teaching her.
Instead, I should be teachingher like how you teach your kids
(53:04):
, when they sit down to eat agiant bowl of cereal.
And then I'm like, okay, sowhere's your protein when?
Like yes, yeah, and so um.
So it wasn't necessarilyanything that made me stop, it
was more just I need to stopdoing this.
I can do better.
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And I didn't lose a lot ofweight this time.
I'd say maybe five pounds inabout six months.
Speaker 1 (53:31):
Yeah, you could totally do that with macros.
Speaker 3 (53:34):
I know that's ridiculous.
That's why I'm like it did notand it's expensive too.
Yeah, it's very expensive.
It did not and it's expensivetoo.
Yeah, it's very expensive.
And once I got off that's thesecond time I immediately felt
better.
I know it takes a week to getout of your system, but that's
(53:54):
why I think a lot of it wasmental for me, because I
immediately felt better.
I immediately startednourishing my body.
I started eating healthier,eating better food.
In fact, I just saw a friendthis morning and she's like you
look so good, what are you doing?
And I said not semi-glutide.
So I think I've been off of itfor three months, is it?
And I feel so much better.
(54:16):
And I took an influencer sayingshe's like me same height, same
weight.
She actually dipped down below150 pounds and she said I
actually like my body between150 and 155.
And it was so nice to hearsomeone normalize that, because
to get myself down to like below145, I'm like peeling the
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weight off.
I cannot cheat, I cannot doanything.
So for my lifestyle, I'm likeactually, I like being between
150 and 155.
It works for me.
It's almost like you neededthat permission yes.
And much way in a better place.
I mean, I don't, my body's justhealthier, I don't get hormonal
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acne anymore.
In fact, that's the otherreason I stopped.
I don't, my body's justhealthier, I don't get hormonal
acne anymore.
In fact, that's the otherreason I stopped.
I don't know if this is goingto show it.
I stopped because my your skinlooks perfect this is skincare
and I was starting to getdarkness.
So when you get darkness oncertain parts of your face, it's
because of a gut issue.
Liver damage, same thing, withacne, and so right.
(55:22):
And I have a growth on my liver, so right, when I saw the
darkness on my face I was like,nope, I, if this is starting to
hurt me on the inside, I'm out.
That was another mentality.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
Like you're not going to trade being healthy for
being skinny.
Yes, for sure.
That's what.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
I always tell people yeah, and this is period acne, I
have none.
So once you get your health andyour gut in order, you don't
have to go through all of thenonsense we go through when
we're struggling mentally andphysically.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
Mm-hmm, that was my second round, okay.
So, knowing what you know now,do you one regret taking it, and
two like what would you dodifferently?
I would say I guess would youdo it again Like you know.
(56:18):
Knowing what you know now, whatwould you tell yourself If you
could go back in time?
What would you tell yourself Ifyou?
Speaker 3 (56:25):
could go back in time , what would you tell yourself?
I will.
I would tell myself like justthe normal stuff, you are enough
.
I'm glad I did it because itgot me to this place where I'm.
I love my body.
I'm so proud.
When my husband needs helplifting something, I go out and
I help him.
I am strong.
I can get stuff done.
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I'm learning and teaching mykids how to eat healthier and I
would never do it again.
And when people say they want todo it, I think it's important
that they do understand therisks.
Tell them I tell them thingsthat they need to look for.
(57:06):
What to expect, what?
What shows up on your skin?
That is bad.
So that's actually damagingyour insides.
Yes, you're getting skinnier,but what are you doing?
Long term, yeah, long-term, um,yeah, I want to tell myself no,
don't I.
(57:26):
I want to go back and tellmyself not to do it, but I
wouldn't have learned what Ilearned.
But when people say they wantto do it, I'm like listen, why
do you want to do it?
Like, what are your reasons?
Because if it's only to getskinny, you're going to damage a
whole bunch of stuff to getyourself there.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
Yes, and I think you're right.
Like the, your mental statematters when going into this.
Like if you decide to do it andyou are not willing to work out
to eat healthy, to you know,hit your protein numbers, eat
enough calories, and if you'rejust doing it to waste away on
the couch to be skinnier, that'sa problem.
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And even if you're just doingit to waste away on the couch to
be skinnier, that's a problem.
And even if you do hit yourgoal weight, you will not be
happy because you're not healthymentally.
So for me, I see red flags withthat side for sure.
I'm like I have some friends andsome people I know that have
done it in an unhealthy way andI have some friends that have.
(58:22):
Actually they do have a reallygood mentality.
They are working out every day,they are eating healthy, they
are making sure that they'redoing it very slow and they're
doing like a micro dose is whatI've heard is like a triseptide,
not semi-glutide, that has likelower side effects and I just
see the difference where it'slike enough of the edge to kind
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of help them hit their macros.
That's a completely differentexperience than someone that is
doing this, like you said, justto get skinny and not actually
care about their health, cause Iwhen, when this first came out,
I was very against it, like Iwas saying unless you have
obesity or diabetes, do nottouch this.
(59:06):
Like.
No, like we are not tradingbeing healthy for being skinny.
That's how I saw it, because Isaw all these people having gut
issues, which I'm like.
That's your number oneindicator of your health is your
gut.
Speaker 3 (59:20):
And we know that.
What do gut issues lead into?
They lead into hormonal issues,which leads to depression.
So exactly that.
Speaker 1 (59:28):
Well, and that's the other thing is, I heard that
there was some side effects ofdepression, because your gut
houses your serotonin levels, soif it's unhealthy, you're not
getting that feel good.
And so I just saw all thesethings and I'm like this is so
bad and I feel I do feel like,as it's starting to progress,
(59:49):
I'm seeing, okay, people arelearning like learning the
compounds, learning that youcan't do the doses, so high
learning, like, okay, we don'twant the food to rot in their
stomach.
So high learning, like, okay,we don't want the food to rot in
their stomach, you don't wantthe sulfur, sulfur burps and um,
(01:00:13):
you know, like I do feel likethere is definitely.
It depends on the intentionbehind it.
If you're willing to do it ahealthy way, do you even need it
?
Like you said, do you even needit?
Like I do feel, like so manypeople, it can be a miracle for
a lot of people.
It can also be a crutch, andthat's what I'm like.
(01:00:34):
Really I feel like we need toeducate people.
It's like do you really need it?
Is this going to make youhappier?
And if you're going to do it,let's help you do it the
healthiest way possible, Like Ido want to try to, because some
people it's been amazing and Idon't want them to feel shame or
guilt around it so.
I'm really trying to have thisopen dialogue, but I love what
(01:00:58):
you shared.
It got me so emotional, likewhat you're telling your
daughter and and what abeautiful place you're in right
now and seeing this beautifullike you.
Still you want to lift, youwant to be strong, you want to
be healthy, and you felt like,personally, it wasn't the best
thing for you and I honor that,like I love your story, I love
(01:01:20):
your experience.
I think it's an important storyto share and I think a lot of
people will be able to make adecision based off of what they
hear from you and if they'remaybe in that same boat.
I want to remind you that I amin no way pushing a medication
for weight loss.
My goal here is to try tobroaden your horizons.
(01:01:42):
I want to show you that thereare different ways to use this
medication.
I have seen a lot of benefitswith friends and family and
clients.
I've also seen people who havereally not liked the side
effects.
So, that being said, I'm hopingto broaden your horizon so that
we can remove shame, removejudgment and you can make the
(01:02:02):
best decision for you.
As always, I'm here to help withany questions regarding fitness
and nutrition and mindset andhabit coaching.
But if you have specificquestions about the medication,
I am not a doctor and I wouldnot give you medical advice.
I would suggest that you seekout your medical provider.
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Welcome to the Better Me withBody by Brie podcast, where we
dive deep into the tools andstrategies that empower you to
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take control of your health andwellbeing.
Today, we're tackling one ofthe hottest topics in the
wellness world right now Ozempit, also known as semi-glutide, or
another common GLP-1 known astrizepatine.
It's a medication making wavesfor weight loss, but there's
more to the story than quickresults.
We'll explore the benefits itpromises, the dangers that come
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with it and how to navigate yourfitness and nutrition journey.
If you're considering oralready on this medication,
let's break it down together,because it's not just about
weight loss.
It's about making sure you arehealthy from the inside out.
For the last four months, Ihave dug deep into the peptide
world, learning from workshops,podcasts, research journals and
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interviewing top experts in thefield, and I wanted to share
what I found with all of myfollowers so that they can make
an informed decision for theirown health.
It's important for me to coverall the risks, the benefits and
first-hand experiences to bringa very raw and vulnerable
insight.
This episode is part two of athree-part series all about the
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truth behind GLP-1 medication,the benefits, risks and what you
need to know.
In this episode, I interviewfour clients who have had
personal experiences with GLP-1sand their stories.
I wanted to highlight Alyssa,who lost 60 pounds on
semi-glutide and then weanedherself off and kept her results
by training with the Body byBrie team and focusing on
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lifting to build muscle andshifting her lifestyle habits
for life.
Ashley has PCOS and tried amicrodose of triseptide after
her husband, who is a doctor,suggested that it could help
with her symptoms and she wasable to get off of her
spiralactone medication that shewas previously taking for her
PCOS.
Andrea has been on triseptidefor six months now and says it's
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been an answer to her prayersshe can quiet the food noise and
stick to her macros andcontinue lifting to feel her
best.
Julia was on the one of thefirst rounds of semi-glutide and
she didn't like how it made herfeel.
She decided to wean herself offbecause she didn't like being
on medication and it did makeher feel sick.
I wanted to try to get you asample of a lot of different
(02:57):
firsthand experiences so you canmake your own decision for
yourself.
I'm in no way pushing people toget on this medication.
My goal is to educate and thenlet you decide what's best for
you.
I'm not a medical professionaland I have no medical background
, so, as always, please speak toyour trusted medical provider
If you have questions.
Let's learn together.
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This is Andrea and her personalexperience with triseptide.
Hi, andrea, how are you?
I'm so good.
How are you?
I'm good.
Welcome to the podcast.
I'm so excited.
I love that you were ready todo this.
Last minute I was talking toher and I'm like hang on, we got
to share your story.
Can I record our conversation?
(03:40):
You're such a good sport.
I'm just always ready for apodcast.
You, you're such a good sport.
I'm always ready for a podcast.
You are, you're such a good.
I thought it was important toshare your perspective because
you're unique in the fact thatyou are super healthy.
You've been working out,consistently, tracking your
macros.
You have all these healthyhabits and you are using GLP-1s
(04:04):
as a tool in your toolbox to getyou where you need to be.
But let's start from thebeginning.
Tell everyone a little bitabout yourself.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, so I have.
Actually, I think I've been.
I was just thinking in my mind.
I've been a client for probablythree years, but we met a year
ago at retreat met a year ago atretreat and I work in an HR job
, a desk job.
I I've probably developed somefood issues from a young age.
Uh, I feel like justgenetically, I have a fair
(04:37):
amount of of muscle mass and sothat's always made it hard to
lose weight when you just feeldense.
But yeah, I've just beenworking with my Body by Breathe
program and I love it.
But yeah, I just was not seeingresults the way I wanted it to
(05:00):
be and that's why I was feelingso, so discouraged.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
You felt like something was off, Like you've
been telling me that for a while.
Like Kate guys, I'm hitting mymacros Like something is off.
I'm doing everything I'msupposed to be doing and you're
so good at working out and doingall the things, so yeah,
exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I just was at a point where I thought something's got
to change.
And I wasn't.
My A1C wasn't in thepre-diabetic range, I didn't
meet the markers for having this.
My insurance cover this.
So I went to my doctor and saidwhat can I be doing?
Because this is what I am doingwith my workout program, my
(05:41):
eating, but what can I do to seeresults?
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
So what did they say when you said that?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
She was super positive about it.
I said this is what I'mthinking and she said, yeah,
let's give it a try.
I've seen some clients haveseen our clients patients see
some really good success usingusing this.
Um.
I'm on a compounded triseptide.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Okay, that's what I was going to ask so you're on
triseptide and she wasencouraging it.
So tell us kind of what wasgoing through your mind.
You were excited about doing it?
Had you researched it?
Were you nervous about startingit?
Do you have any hesitations?
What were you thinking when youwere on this journey of
(06:24):
starting?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, I was nervous that I would be told well,
you're not in this diabeticrange, so no, or I I've.
I actually came.
I was diagnosed with thecondition earlier this year.
I was nervous about would my,would my condition match up with
match up with this medicine?
(06:46):
And so I actually talked to myprimary care and my allergist,
who are both very positive,because my allergist was saying,
yeah, actually there's somegood studies where we've seen
some they're seeing really goodresults from the GLP-1s helping
patients in with asthma andother kind of inflammatory
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conditions, and so she wasreally positive about that.
But I was nervous, thinking,okay, giving myself injections,
that sounds really scary.
I've never done something likethat before.
Is this going to work?
Am I going to be throwing up orhaving really bad intestinal
problems?
I didn't want to introduce thatinto my life because I've been
trying to kind of eliminate someof those things like reflux
(07:33):
from my life.
So this was really kind ofunknown to jump into it.
But I was really, reallysurprised, and really happily
surprised, at how she reacted tome asking the question and was
really on board and supportive.
Yeah, and she wanted to knowother things that I was doing as
well my lifestyle, not justgiving me a medication as an
(07:56):
easy fix, but to say what's yourlifestyle like?
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Are you working out?
Are you hitting protein?
Do you have these healthyhabits?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
I'm glad that she asked those questions for you.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
So what did you feel when you first started?
You started on the lowest dose,yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I don't know how it translates to the other because
it's compounded Right.
I was on 20 units.
It was compounded with B6 andB12.
And I started at 20 units andB12.
And I started at 20 units and Iactually was feeling really
good.
You know, first day ofinjection, my first couple of
weeks, I did feel a little bitof like soreness, but, and never
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any.
I really haven't had any nauseaor even any intestinal pain at
all.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Probably because you're on such a low dose, like
20 is very low, that's like thestarting dose, very, very low
Like yeah, yeah, okay, keepgoing.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
So initially with the , with the lower dose, I just
started recognizing when I wouldfeel full.
And that was something that waskind of missing in my life of,
and I felt like, oh my gosh,this is where I've been
self-sabotaging because, withouteven realizing it, because
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you're, I was misreading hungercues and like the satiety wasn't
there exactly, and so now I'mkind of able to eating and I can
say you know what I'm done, orthere's treats or things that
I've been wanting, you know,that were kind of calling my
name before.
It's like I'm good, I canactually say no and move on with
(09:36):
life instead of just constantlyfeeling like I was on the prowl
for something to seduce me,yeah, so you felt really good on
it, like you're happy with yourexperience.
Yes, I'm very happy.
I'm sleeping better, my skin isbetter.
I, I, I.
When I upped my dose, becausewe went from 20 units to 40
(09:59):
units, I did experience some um,irregularity, a little bit of
bloating, but I've been able tomanage that because I'm really
watching my protein and my fiber.
Really, holding in on fiber hasbeen a huge change just in even
the last week or two.
But I'm also balancing thiswith this.
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I have a whey allergy and sothat's kind of also I'm kind of
trying to understand was thattoo much dairy?
Was that too much?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
of this.
But that's like is the bloatingfrom this or from what you're
eating?
That's hard to tell why did youbump it up?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
So I was realizing, or is recognizing, that by about
day five after my dose it waswearing, I could tell it was
wearing off.
I was getting that like I'mhungry, I'm looking for things
and I just said and honestly, myweight loss was just like
petering out.
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That was probably about sixweeks in.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
Okay, that was my question how long before you
felt like you had to up it alittle bit?
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Yeah, that was about six weeks in and but I feel like
this dose I'm at right now Ican sustain this for a while.
I'm seeing, I'm my, my, uh, thesymptoms, I guess, or the
reaction to, or those negativeresults, the negative feelings
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from.
It is just kind of where I'mable to manage those but still
seeing weight loss.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It's still it's minimal, but that's what you
want.
You want it to be slow andsteady, or you will lose your
muscle and you want to be ableto eat.
I like hearing that.
I'm like great.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Part of your brain is saying lose weight fast,
because that's what you seepeople doing.
But my other, more rationalpart of my brain is saying it's
okay.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
It's good, it's healthy.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
This is what you want it to be yes, because I'm
maintaining my muscle mass, Ihave good energy, I'm losing,
you know, between one to twopounds a week, sometimes less.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
That's perfect.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
One to two pounds a week is golden, yeah, and so
I've been really happy with thatand just how I feel and the
food noise is a big one.
I was thinking about that theother day, kind of even saying
what is food noise.
I was having that conversationwith my sister and she's like
remember how you had that food.
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I developed a food fixation,kind of out of a stressful
situation.
It was about two years ago andfor a a year I was just I
couldn't do anything, focus onthis one brand of chip and I was
eating way too much of it and Icut it off and I've not had it
for a year but I still every day.
It was just like I need thisand it was like an addiction.
(13:00):
It was an addiction, yeah, andI have.
I've realized I've not desiredthat for at least four months
why I could go and I was like mein my skin and then seeing
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results from my efforts has beensuch a confidence booster
because I was just constantlydown on myself.
I felt like a failure and itwas translating into other areas
of my life where I just feltlike I can't do anything right.
I can't even control my hunger,I can't control my body, All of
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these things.
I know I have a control issue,but that was just really-.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
No, that takes a toll on you mentally and even
talking.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
so I work with a primary care physician, an
allergist and a therapist and myBody by Brief team.
I have this whole team aroundme to feel like I am worthy of
good things and also justfeeling like I can make this
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happen.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
It's hope I can achieve this.
It's giving you hope.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah, and to feel proud of yourself, like, yeah, I
love that.
That's.
I'm like we need to remove theshame.
We need to remove the shame ofthis.
People just don't understandand that was me.
I am the person that didn'tunderstand.
Like I only saw people throwingup, losing hair, losing muscle
mass and I'm like why are wetrading being healthy for being
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skinny people?
But I didn't realize that youcould do two, I guess, programs
or two ways, and one is theobesity route and the other one
is a longevity route and it'smicrodosing these smaller micro
doses where people feel amazingand peptides are naturally
occurring in the body and sowhen you start seeing people
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using these like this is betterthan you know if you were to do
any like a different medicationwhere you're introducing a
foreign substance into your body.
Like GLP ones are naturallyoccurring and they're part of a
branched chain amino acid.
So I do feel like there's ahealthy way to do this and I do
feel like it's exciting to seethe success of clients that are
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doing it the healthy way andthat feel amazing and I can see
like the light in your eyes.
You're just like you're like Ifeel so good, I'm so happy and
that's amazing for you and and Ithink you did it the right way
by having a support team and nottrying to do it on your own and
not going as high as you can,like staying as low as you can
for as long as you can.
(15:56):
Yeah, what do your doctors sayabout how long you can be on it,
or can you be on it forever?
Do you need to cycle off?
Like what are they saying toyou?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
You know I've been seeing her every month and so
I'm on month.
So I just finished my fourthmonth.
So, um, actually no third month.
And um, I've, I'm following upwith my doctor every four weeks
and and really they've told methat this is safe enough to you
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could be on it for a life if youneeded it.
Right, mainly for diabeticreasons.
Right, I'm not diabetic.
So I first, I see myself givingto a comfortable weight.
I know that I'm not because ofmy, my genetics.
I know I'm never going to beJennifer Aniston.
You know that's'm not becauseof my, my genetics.
I know I'm never going to beJennifer Aniston you know that's
just right how my build, but Iknow I can give you a healthy
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weight where I feel strong.
That's my main.
My main goal is strong and andjust feeling my best, where I
can enter the next half of mylife feeling like I can.
I can be strong and take careof myself and the needs I have.
But I I foresee myself probablytapering off once I get to a
(17:12):
desired weight and how I feeland just I don't know what that
weight is.
I hate to put a number on it.
I just want to feel strong.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yeah, I think you'll know.
I think you'll know I've hadsome friends that they were on
it and I had one friend lose 60pounds and three of those pounds
were muscle because she liftedevery day.
She was really intentional.
She took, I think it was sevenor eight months to lose the
weight.
It was a very slow, steadyprocess and then, because she
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was doing all the foundationalthings, when she weaned off of
it, she completely weaned off ofit.
She's like I feel amazing.
She didn't gain any of theweight back and she's like I
feel so good and that waspromising to me to be like, okay
, you could be on it forever ifyou needed, but also, if you
don't want to be, you don't haveto be Exactly and it doesn't
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automatically mean that you'regoing to gain the weight back.
If you have these foundationalhabits.
And also I think it helps, likeyou said, with that food noise,
I feel like it also helps whenyou're eating healthy, then you
recognize how good your bodyfeels and so, even if you are
off of it, I do feel like you'regoing to remember, you know, oh
(18:27):
, I feel so good not eating thatsugar or not eating the junk
food, or man, that feels so goodto not be bloated and now my
gut health feels so good.
It's like giving you thatlittle push that maybe people
need.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
So yeah, exactly, and some of the things I have in my
little arsenal of supplementsthat helps me.
Digestive enzymes, I mean noone's going to say this yes, but
my digestive enzymes, myprobiotics, I mean those were
always daily for me.
But I'm taking fiber, I'm justtrying to help my body run its
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best, which there's a lot ofthings that I had been running.
I didn't realize it wasn'tnormal.
Yeah, that, like TMI, you knowyour regularity of your bowel
movements.
I didn't realize what I wasexperiencing was not normal,
right, and now I'm having morenormal experiences there and I'm
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like, wow, this is what aperson's supposed to feel like.
This is kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
That's amazing.
That's so cool.
I'm so happy for you, Andrea.
I really am so happy for you.
I'm so glad that you're doingthis in the healthiest way
possible.
You have a supportive teamaround you.
You have your Body by Breedteam that's cheering you on and
helping to make sure that you'rehitting your calories, which
you are, and I mean she's stilleating.
You guys, like 1,800 calories,like three meals a day, snacks,
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like you are still eating.
You're not not eating.
And I think when we see thosescary stories, it's the people
that are on way too high of adose and they're not eating and
they're malnourished, and that'swhen you see the scary stuff
happen.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
So yeah, I'm, I'm enjoying.
I'm enjoying cheat.
I'll say treat meals, yeah, andeven right now I ran out of my
daily chocolate.
I have like two dove chocolateswith my lunch and I feel like
this is great.
And I have a cookie every oncein a while.
I just am enjoying that.
And I have a cookie every oncein a while.
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I just am enjoying that.
I can eat like a normal personand still see results, because
I'm really putting in this work.
And when I showed the doctor, Ipulled up my body by Brie app
and I showed her this is whatI'm doing and this is how I
track, and she was like this isfantastic, I'm so glad you're
doing this, so yeah, and thenthat team, I can't just.
(20:48):
I'm just so happy, I'm just, I'mjust found this happiness
inside me.
Even people who have no ideawhat I'm doing outside of work,
in the gym, whatever they'resaying, there's something,
there's something differentabout you, what's, what's
different?
And I'm like there's something,there's something different
about you, what's?
Speaker 1 (21:07):
what's different and I'm like I just feel so good.
Yeah, it's that hope, thatconfidence, that inner
confidence.
You know that you're keepingyour word with yourself, that
you are making progress, likethat's everything.
So whether you're you're ontriseptide or not, that's an
amazing feeling.
You know like that's just sucha good feeling.
And yeah, I'm really, reallyproud of you and I'm happy that
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you can keep these healthyhabits and be with the Body by
Breed team and continue to, youknow, build that muscle and feel
your best.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
So I just consider it one of the tools in my toolbox,
my little arsenal of thingsthat are helping me feel my best
, and yeah, I just was.
I've been so inspired by yourteam and by others I've seen and
just really what it was justlooking to find find Andrea
inside, inside Cause.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
I knew she was in there.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I just needed to find her.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Oh, I'm so happy for you, Andrea.
Thank you for sharing yourstory and being vulnerable and
getting it out there.
I think you're going to help alot of people with your story.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Thank you, thanks to you and everything you've done
for me, I'm just so happy?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Why are you getting emotional?
What are you feeling?
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Because it's just that notion of like I was.
I was always a chubby kid and Iwas told I was told that by
everyone and I thought chubbywas a cute word until I realized
it wasn't and what they werereally saying and I've just
never felt like I was seen forwho I am.
(22:44):
But I've always been, if youthink about, like there's the
main character in a movie andI'm always the chubby funny
friend and I feel like I'mfinally finding myself at 45.
I'm finding my worth.
I knew it was there and weightloss shouldn't matter, but I
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just, for all the things I'vetried, for all the things I've
felt and felt like a failure inthis has been such a such a
freeing experience to realize Ican do hard things and and it
pays off.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yes, you don't feel like you're treading in mud, you
feel like your efforts areworking.
Yep, that's so beautiful and itis an emotional experience.
All of this is so emotional, soI'm glad that you shared that
part of your journey, becausethat's the why, right?
That's the whole reason, thewhole reason behind everything.
(23:51):
It's not just to fit in yourgenes, that's not why.
Finding that deeper, why is sopowerful and I think a lot of
people will be able to relate towhat you just said.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Thank you for sharing and being so vulnerable.
I just love you, andrea.
You're such a light.
You're the main character in mylife, andrea, you're such a joy
.
You're the leading lady.
You're the leading lady youlike.
Bring so much joy to any roomthat you walk into, like.
You're just such a gem and sospecial and I'm really happy
that this is helping you feelmore confident about yourself.
(24:24):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I think it started back honestly.
I mean, I've been a client fora while, but it started at
retreat.
I found Andrea and so that'swhere I was like I know she's in
there.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
I've got to release this beast yes, she's talking
about our Body by Brie retreatthat we did.
Oh, I love that and and I saw apart of that when you were
going down that slide that wasterrifying jumped off the ledge,
jumping off the high dive thateveryone's terrified to do.
You're like, I got this.
I saw that andrea coming out.
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That's so fun.
Well, thank you for sharingyour story.
I really appreciate you, andrea, thanks Brie, thank you.
I'll talk to you later.
Bye, this is Julia and herpersonal experience weaning off
semi-glutide.
Hi, julia, welcome to thepodcast.
How are you?
I'm good.
(25:21):
How are you?
I'm happy to be here.
I'm so excited you're here.
I just was laughing because wewere talking about how long
Julia has been a client and shesaid she's been a client on and
off for 10 years.
That's crazy, that's amazing.
That's so cool.
I love it.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
We've done lots of challenges.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
How many workouts do you think you've done with Body?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
by Free.
I wonder if I can log on and itwill tell me.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
That would be so fun.
Hundreds Probably a lot.
Hundreds, hundreds, yeah, allright.
So, julia, I wanted you on thispodcast because I wanted to
share your unique experiencewith GLP-1 medication.
So when I posted hey, I want toshare other people's authentic,
(26:15):
real experiences Julia reachedout to me and was like I want to
share my story, and I thinkit's a very powerful story.
I think it's something thatpeople really need to hear the
good, the bad, the ugly,everything and so I think it's
really great to hear fromsomeone firsthand, not just
reading research, but yourpersonal experience, and that's
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what we're going to talk abouttoday.
But before we start, tell usjust a little bit of a
background of who you are, whatyou do, your family.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Okay, my name is Julia.
I've been a member of Body byBree since the beginning.
When I started following you onInstagram, you had 2000
followers.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
You're an OG.
This is really cool, Julia.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
This is really cool, so it's so fun.
I totally believe in what youdo.
I have five kids, onebiological, four step and busy
mom.
I just really scaled back in mybusiness.
So I'm a cosmetic laserpractitioner, so I do laser work
, a lot of cosmetic work,pre-surgical, and I work in a
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busy medical office and so a lotof times I'm a guinea pig for
some things that come out.
And that's where my GLP-1semiglutide started was yes, it
was coming out and I volunteered, for whatever reason.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Okay, so let's get specific.
So when was this?
When did you volunteer to bethe guinea pig for it?
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Okay, I would say January, probably of 2023,
because insurance was justcutting all the GLP-1s on people
who did it wasn't a medicalnecessity, so people were having
to start to pay for it and wefound some pharmacies that were
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willing to compound it.
So we wanted to see how well itwould work, what the side
effects were, what we liked inthe compounds, what we didn't
like.
The initial one that I took wasbright red.
It had B vitamins in it, whichwould help with the nausea and
the energy levels, and it workedwell, I would say In the
(28:25):
beginning, it's say in thebeginning.
It's really cut back myappetite.
So shall we say medicalanorexia a little bit, just
because you didn't want to eatbut you didn't have the hunger
pains.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Well, okay, let's start from the beginning.
So first I want to know yourmotivation for wanting to try it
.
Okay, so tell me yourmotivation of why you were
looking in.
And specifically, you told methis is semi-glutide, yes, okay,
so why were you wanting to bethe guinea pig?
(28:59):
What was going on internallyfor you?
Speaker 3 (29:02):
Okay, I think this.
I'm not going to cry duringthis podcast Great.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
I want you to cry.
I want you to be real andvulnerable, like people.
People need it, they need it.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yes, um, so okay, then I'll just start out crying,
um, that's okay.
It just stems back to neverbeing good enough for myself,
which is something huge that youpreach, and I think that's why
I have always come back andwanted to be a part of your
(29:34):
program, because it's soimportant, I think, for people
to love who they are and to alsounderstand what their body is
capable of.
I am proud to have a reallystrong body.
I have a lot of muscle and myframe.
So I'm 5'4".
(29:55):
I generally ride around 150pounds.
I'm never going to be 120pounds.
I would look very unhealthy at120.
But for some reason, I alwaysam like, no, I can look very
unhealthy at 120.
And but for some reason, Ialways I'm like, no, I can be
130 again, but my lifestyledoesn't want that.
You know like I'm not willing,I'm not, I can't do that, and so
(30:17):
.
But before this time, I alwaysjust wanted to be that number.
I wanted to be smaller,skinnier, obsessively smaller,
and so when this first came out,it was kind of the miracle
weight loss medication.
It's something the kind that Itook you you inject yourself.
(30:38):
There's a lot of clinics thatmake you come in to inject this
one I actually did myself.
I don't know if it's becauseI'm a medical professional or I
can do it, whatever.
But um, I just wanted to besmaller and so I decided to be
the Guinea pig because I waslike great I'll, we'll see if it
works.
If it's a miracle, awesome.
So mentally I wouldn't say Iwas in a great spot, because I
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just wanted to be skinnier Rightand and I guess that's where it
started, time one.
I've been on it twice, so thefirst time that's where it
started, okay, and I startedtaking it and at first it was
fine, I didn't really have anybig issues.
(31:25):
And then it started.
So it slows down your digestionand they say it's so that your
body has time to pull outnutrients At least back then.
That's what it slows it down,so that your body has time to
pull out more nutrients.
But on the bad side of it issometimes it just rots, like the
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food gets in your stomach andit just turns into just rotten
food and then you get foodpoisoning.
Essentially, a lot of peopleare hospitalized because that's
what happens and they don't feelgood.
Their stomach hurts so much sothat they feel like they need to
be hospitalized.
I wasn't, I ended up not goingto the ER.
Mine didn't get that bad.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yes, pause, let's back up.
Sorry, before you start goinginto that, I want to like paint
the picture of what you werefeeling and and what was
happening.
So let's talk about your firstinjection.
So how, what was your dose?
And I want to know were theychecking in on you Like?
Were they like, okay, how'syour appetite?
How are you feeling?
Let's start with this startingdose.
(32:33):
So, what was your starting dose?
Do you remember my starting?
Speaker 3 (32:36):
dose was 20 units, okay.
And?
And you rotate where you put it.
My first dose was in my stomach.
You put it anywhere there's fatStomach, back of the arm, your
booty, and you just rotate weekafter week, okay.
And then oh, what were yousaying?
(32:57):
I was going to say it doesn'thurt, I do want to see a needle,
oh it doesn't hurt.
I have a needle, show us aneedle.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Show us what it looks like you, yeah, show us the
needle.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Show us what it looks like you do it once a week,
right?
This is the needle.
Yep, once a week, every sevendays, and the needle is tiny.
Can you see that?
Yeah, that's tiny.
Yeah, you can put it all theway in and it doesn't hurt.
You might feel a little prickon your belly but it doesn't
hurt, at least for me.
(33:24):
I'm not scared of needles.
Yeah, my daughter actuallywould give me the injections
because she wants to be a doctor.
So I was like perfect, let'sstart you out at nine.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, so I'm going to get to that because I want to
know what you, how.
You talked about that with yourdaughter, so I want to get to
that too.
Um, so tell me, what did youfeel on your first and second
injections?
Did you feel okay?
Did you feel nauseous?
What were some of your sideeffects?
Or were you like this isawesome.
I don't have an appetite.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Pretty lethargic, not a lot of energy, nauseous for
the first couple days.
It's kind of like did you everhave braces?
When they tighten your bracesit hurts for a couple days and
then there's, it doesn't hurt.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
It was kind of like that.
Okay, so the first few daysafter you inject, I've heard, is
like the highest dose, so youdo feel a little more nauseous
and then it kind of evens out.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Okay, yeah, you feel a little nauseous and then,
probably by the end of the week,is when I would start to get my
energy back and feel normal,and then it's time for another
injection.
So then you give yourselfanother injection and then the
cycle starts over.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
I think for the first month I did 20 units and then
I'd start going up by five everyweek and slowly so in the first
month, when you're feeling that, do you think you were tired
and lethargic because youweren't eating enough calories,
(34:54):
or was it because of the shot?
So do you think if you wereeating enough calories that you
wouldn't be tired and lethargic,Like?
Your glucose levels areprobably super low because
you're not eating enough, right,yeah, what?
What were you eating?
What do you think your calorieswere when you were on it?
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Um, oh man, that's a great question.
I usually, when I track, I tryto stay around 1800 to 2000
calories, depending on what I'mdoing.
I would say in the first coupleof days, when you're super
nauseous, maybe 1200 calories.
Oh sweet, that's a huge cut.
(35:30):
Yeah, but I wasn't trackingeither.
So I mean, some days are more.
I do know that when you wouldeat something really greasy,
like a hamburger or something,just something unhealthy, it
would make you sick.
I did notice that.
So it's almost like it wouldforce you to eat healthier by
default because you're like no,I don't want to eat that,
(35:50):
because it makes me feel worse.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Yeah, it's like when you're getting over the flu and
you're like I just want fruit,right, like maybe that feeling
I'm imagining like the beginningstages of being pregnant, where
you kind of just want likesmoothies and like lighter stuff
because you're kind of a littlebit on the verge of nausea.
That's what I would assume.
Is that what you're describing?
Okay, that's what my friendshave said that are on it.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
And I didn't have as bad as nausea as some people, or
some people like debilitatingnausea, like they couldn't get
out of bed.
Yeah, they lost 30 pounds ineight weeks, but yeah Cause they
couldn't survive Cause you'resick.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
That's like saying I had the flu and I was.
I was in bed all week, but atleast I lost five pounds.
You're like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
It's going to come right back.
Yeah, so I'm glad I didn't haveit as bad as some people.
It's going to come right back.
Yeah, so I'm glad I didn't haveit as bad as some people.
I think it's because Inaturally eat pretty healthy
anyway.
Yeah, but once, like when youwould eat a steak or pork, red
meat that would just really sitin your stomach and fester.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
And so you kind of had to learn how to eat.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
There is a learning curve, but once you figure out
what works, then for the mostpart it's okay.
You have some bad episodes.
Once you get over that, thenyou're okay.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
So do you think that it matters on how nauseous you
are?
What I've heard is that dosingmatters.
So if you have a higher dose,you're more nauseous.
So do you think that thatmatters, in like, what you're
prescribed and how you react toit is your dosing or do you
think it's the actual?
Speaker 3 (37:37):
It is the dosing.
I think that's why I wasincreased so slowly, because you
kind of get used to it.
Okay, how did?
If I was super nauseous at, say, 40 units, then I wouldn't go
up the next week, I'd wait tillmy body was okay.
With 40 units, I got all theway up to 65 units, I think,
which is a lot.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yeah, that's like totally slowing down your whole
gut.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
And I think that's why there is such a problem is
because people are gettingoverdosed.
Because you're like no, I wantto be skinnier, skinnier,
skinnier and yes, turns into anissue.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
So let's tell the rest of your story.
So you said the first part ofof it was great.
You were losing weight, youfelt fine, mild side effects.
And then what happens?
Speaker 3 (38:27):
So I didn't lose weight as fast as a lot of
people.
Again, I think it's because Inaturally work out, eat
healthier, and so just I waspretty much just forcing the
weight off by having lowercalories.
So there are.
I had a friend who lost in likesix weeks, 20 pounds, but she
couldn't get off her couch.
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That's so unhealthy.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
I know, can we just talk about how unhealthy that is
?
That that's not like, that'snot something to brag about.
That's not a flex, that's.
That's very bad.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Yes, that's a very terrible way to lose weight, so
I'm kind of glad mine came offslower because I did have to
keep functioning in life andthen, and since I was the guinea
pig, I would kind of reportback like, okay, I'm fine, I'm
fine.
Well, I almost died last nightand I remember and a lot of
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people go through it, I don'tknow.
Like we talked aboutmicrodosing.
Those people probably don'thave this problem.
It's the people that aresteadily increased.
That we now know is an issue.
Back then I feel like we didn't.
And you get to a point whereyou're really constipated and
then it turns into diarrhea,because that's just what happens
to your body.
(39:42):
And I remember I and it's kindof I call it the giggle diarrhea
because there's no stopping it,you just laugh through it.
It's just, it's hilarious andit.
I remember I got up in themiddle of the night giggle
diarrhea went to the bathroomand I remember I had, like this,
really, really bad pain in my.
(40:03):
It was in my stomach, lowerstomach, I would say, like
ovaries, like period cramps,severe period cramps, and I
remember thinking, oh my gosh,and it wouldn't stop, wouldn't
stop.
And then I was like, is thisone of those times where I need
to go to the emergency room?
I remember having this internaldialogue and I was like, okay,
(40:26):
I'm going to wait for it to stop, I'm going to get up and get my
husband and tell himsomething's wrong, I need to go
to the ER.
And then I stood up and it gotreally, really bad.
So I sat back down and then itwent away and I was like, okay,
and then it came back again onemore time and then again I had
the internal dialogue.
I got to stand up, I got to goget my husband so we can go to
the ER.
And then I stood up and it wentaway and it never came back.
(40:50):
I have heard of people havingcyst rupture.
I don't know if that's what itwas.
I can't confirm that's what itwas, but from anything I've read
, that's what it sounded like.
I didn't have any bleeding, Ididn't nothing, but that's just
what it felt like.
It was just very uncomfortableand a lot of people have that to
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the point where they do go tothe D E.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
R and and they just call it semi-glutide gut.
So did you ever have to go tothe ER, or it was more like just
a lot of pain that you werefeeling A lot of pain and it
went away, so I didn't if itwould have persisted.
Oh, okay, for some reason, Ithought you did have to go to
the ER.
Okay, I didn't.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
I know several people who have Okay, and it's funny
because I would tell people.
So I changed my med spa name toinclude weight loss because we
were like this is a miracle, weneed to tell everybody about it
and and so I would actually tellpeople you're going to feel
like you're going to die, it'sfine, it will pass.
I'm like it's just a glutidegut, it's food poisoning.
Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
I feel like that's not good.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
That is not good to me.
This is like red flags flashy.
As a wellness person, Obviouslyyour dose either was too high
or it didn't sit well with yourbody, I don't know.
For me, gut health is yourcenter of everything.
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So I'm like do not mess withyour gut health thing.
So I'm like, do not mess withyour gut health.
So that makes me, I think,hearing what you're saying is
maybe the dose was super high,because if you're not going to
the bathroom and it slows toalmost a halt and it has time
for that food to rot in yourintestines, that's a problem.
And that's the scary part ofwhen people are like I need to
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lose faster, I need to lose more.
I wanted to lose 10 pounds in aweek or I wanted to lose 30
pounds in two months, Like allthese other people.
That's the danger.
Like this is the dark side thatcan happen and that's super
scary.
Speaker 3 (43:00):
Yes, and that's an interesting fact.
So I was testing out adifferent.
I take all of your supplements.
I was testing out a new one.
I won't say which one it wasbecause I wanted because I was
on board with their skincare andhow they talk about your body
(43:20):
manifests through your skin.
It's you know, an organ, so Iwas trying out a new probiotic
digestive enzyme.
During this time I had fourUTIs and food poisoning twice,
so do you think it's?
Speaker 1 (43:38):
I don't know the shots or because of the case.
Speaker 3 (43:42):
So the second time I told myself I'm going to take
breeze, digestive enzyme,probiotics, salmon oil, all the
things, and that'snon-negotiable.
And I didn't get a uti or foodpoisoning the second time, so
right there if you need.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
I've actually read I have actually read the research
that you should be taking adigestive enzyme if you're on
GLP-1 medications and aprobiotic to help with your gut
health.
So that is amazing.
I'm so excited.
The second time around did yougo slower and do lower doses?
Speaker 3 (44:19):
No, I did it about the same, and so the second time
.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
This is leading up to the second time.
Yeah, let's back up.
I want to know why you stopped,what you felt when you stopped,
and then why you decided to doit again.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
Yeah, so the first time I got food poisoning for
the second time, which we did goto a sushi bar.
We had raw salmon.
Okay, a lot of us got foodpoisoning that wasn't bless me
Okay, everybody else's was thenormal food poisoning that came
and went in a couple of days,whereas mine, I think I was on
day 10 and I still had massivepain in my stomach.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
Well, if you think of that food sitting in your
stomach for so much longer, itmakes sense Like you're
literally poisoning yourself fora lot longer.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Yeah, yes, so I actually went off cold turkey
because I had had so many issuesand so I was like, okay, this
medication is going to kill me,I don't want to be on it anymore
, and so I just stopped takingit.
I still had some in my fridge,just like this time.
I still have some in my fridge,just like this time, I still
(45:24):
have some in my fridge.
And I just, completely, coldturkey, went off.
And how did you?
Speaker 1 (45:28):
feel when you went off.
I felt fine.
I remember my.
You didn't feel ravenous orlike feel like, and how much
weight had you lost before youquit, and how much weight had
you lost before you quit I wouldsay I probably lost 10 pounds
total.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
This was over about six or seven months.
Oh, okay, so this could havebeen done with diet and exercise
for me personally, yes, but Ikept telling myself it was the
magic shot that was doing it.
I wasn't exercising during thetime because I didn't have
enough energy.
I felt like that's the problemI always hear yes, and so I was
(46:10):
like and I'm on magic medication, I don't need to exercise.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
There's so many thoughts that just go through
your mind that's what I want tochange are those thoughts that
you need to do it fast and thatyou don't have to work out and
that you don't need to eatenough protein.
I'm like, if you're going to doit, let's do it healthy.
So okay, keep going, Keep going.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
So then I went off and that's when I started doing
my bulk with you.
So I intentionally was eatingmore and we did slowly work me
up, so it wasn't like all of asudden I was going from dieting.
Yeah for sure.
And reversed me up.
I gained a lot of muscle.
I think I ended up gaining 25pounds and my lifts were amazing
(46:54):
.
Like I felt so powerful, sostrong.
And then it got to a pointwhere I was like okay, I think
I've got enough on here, I'mfine.
I was starting to feeluncomfortable because my you
told me I would get fluffy.
I did, I got fluffy and and Idecided I just I was time, I
wanted to be done with my bulkand so I did a cut.
(47:15):
I don't remember how manycalories 200 calories maybe that
we cut.
And then, after six weeks ofcutting, I remember I had gained
a half a pound.
So I was like, oh geez what'sgoing on?
Speaker 1 (47:29):
We probably needed to do a more aggressive cut, but
okay, keep going yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
And when it comes down to it, I mean, yes, I was
eating the numbers, but I wasn'tnecessarily worried about
micronutrients, it was more getthe numbers in.
I wasn't doing it grittingly.
But that's just where I wasmentally.
I was preparing myself to beconvinced to get back on the
stomach and so I was like no, Iwant to be skinnier, this isn't
(47:55):
working.
Nothing works because you do.
You want an easy way out.
So I had talked to the nursepractitioner again.
I said I was on a cut and Iwasn't losing as fast as I want.
She's like well, just get backon semi-glutide and let's just
see how the second time goes.
So I did.
I got like twist my arm, no,give me the magic.
So I got back on it.
(48:18):
Second time wasn't as bad.
I did not have the sameformulation.
It was still semaglutide.
It did not have the B vitaminsin it.
There was a little bit of thelethargic feeling, but you'll
find this interesting.
So this was shortly after yourmanifest book challenge and I
(48:40):
had manifested that morningabout should I get back on this
medication?
And I got a no, do not do it.
And I still did it.
Interesting, can you believe it?
I know I felt guilty the wholetime because I did get a
confirmation.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
You felt like you were going against your gut
instinct.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
Okay, and I was able to increase doses faster.
I started at 20 units but Ididn't have to be on it for a
month.
I think I did it for two weeks,went up to 25 units and I was
able to increase quickly up to65 units.
I was probably going up 10units a week as opposed to five.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
I didn't have the nausea up 10 units a week as
opposed to five.
I didn't have the nausea.
Were you able to still eatenough calories to keep all that
muscle that you worked so hardto gain?
Speaker 3 (49:30):
I know, right, I wasn't tracking again.
You know you convince yourselfof all these silly things, and
but I was eating healthier, Iwas taking, but again, I still
wasn't working.
I remember Ashley messaged me.
She's like Julia, you haven'topened your app.
Yeah, so long, that was duringthat time.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
So what's going on here?
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (49:53):
You're usually consistent.
You just did a bulk what'sgoing on, yeah, and which was
another shout out to yourprogram.
Like, you guys care about yourpeople, we do, we do, we care so
much, yep, and so that was kindof motivation for me.
Fine, I'll get back working outand there's um.
I have some friends that teachsome fitness classes, so I would
(50:14):
go to the fitness classes, I doyour program and um, but this
time I didn't.
I had completely differentsymptoms.
I had what they call sulfurburps.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
Have you heard of those?
One of my friends was talkingabout it.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
Yeah, yeah, it was like constant the whole time.
In fact, I was out with somefriends and, um, my friend kept
blaming the guy behind us sayingthat he was farting, and then I
started realizing it wasthrough the whole night.
She's like, oh my gosh, itsmells so bad, you guys.
Speaker 1 (50:46):
And then I started realizing it was every time I
burped like it smelled, likeit's like the rotting food in
your stomach, like coming out.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
It was me.
It was me.
So, friends, if you'relistening to this, that was me
the whole time.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
Yeah, and I had those .
Was that when you were on thehigher dose, the 60 milligrams?
Yeah, so that didn't happenwhen you were on a lower dose,
because maybe it wasn't sittingin your stomach as long.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
Once you get to the higher dose.
But I had it every day, all day.
I was talking to my brotherhe's really in a fitness, really
in shape and he's and he kindof told me he's like what, like
what are you eating?
And and I started kind oftracking what I was eating when
I would get the sulfur burps.
And, um, tick talking how toget rid of sulfur burps.
(51:38):
They were so gross,tick-tocking how to get rid of
sulfur burps.
They were so gross so theysmelled so bad.
Um, and it was after.
I ate real protein, like anychicken, any pork, anything
that's hard for your body todigest.
So then of course you knowyou're like, oh well, maybe I
should stop eating protein,which I knew was bad.
I'm like so healthy food is nowan issue, yeah and um.
(52:01):
Food is now an issue, yeah andum.
And that I, like I told you Ihad my daughter the second time.
She was the one giving me theinjections and I remember just
being like what am I teachingher Cause?
She asked me one day she loveddoing it, she was the one that
would come to me on Sunday nightand be like mom, we need to do
your shot this week.
Yeah.
And one day she asked me onSunday night and be like mom, we
(52:22):
need to do your shot this week.
Yeah.
And one day she asked me she'slike what's this for mom?
And I remember I just stoppedand I didn't want to say to get
in here, but that's why I wasdoing it.
And I just remember I justlooked at her and I just said,
um, this is supposed to help myfood absorb nutrients better,
because I want to be skinnier.
And she said why?
(52:42):
And I just was like I don't, Idon't know, because in her eyes
I'm like the most beautiful,strongest, most amazing person.
And that's kind of when it hitme, when I was like why am I
doing this?
This is not something that Ishould be doing, nor should I be
teaching her.
Instead, I should be teachingher like how you teach your kids
(53:04):
, when they sit down to eat agiant bowl of cereal.
And then I'm like, okay, sowhere's your protein when?
Like yes, yeah, and so um.
So it wasn't necessarilyanything that made me stop, it
was more just I need to stopdoing this.
I can do better.
(53:25):
And I didn't lose a lot ofweight this time.
I'd say maybe five pounds inabout six months.
Speaker 1 (53:31):
Yeah, you could totally do that with macros.
Speaker 3 (53:34):
I know that's ridiculous.
That's why I'm like it did notand it's expensive too.
Yeah, it's very expensive.
It did not and it's expensivetoo.
Yeah, it's very expensive.
And once I got off that's thesecond time I immediately felt
better.
I know it takes a week to getout of your system, but that's
(53:54):
why I think a lot of it wasmental for me, because I
immediately felt better.
I immediately startednourishing my body.
I started eating healthier,eating better food.
In fact, I just saw a friendthis morning and she's like you
look so good, what are you doing?
And I said not semi-glutide.
So I think I've been off of itfor three months, is it?
And I feel so much better.
(54:16):
And I took an influencer sayingshe's like me same height, same
weight.
She actually dipped down below150 pounds and she said I
actually like my body between150 and 155.
And it was so nice to hearsomeone normalize that, because
to get myself down to like below145, I'm like peeling the
(54:37):
weight off.
I cannot cheat, I cannot doanything.
So for my lifestyle, I'm likeactually, I like being between
150 and 155.
It works for me.
It's almost like you neededthat permission yes.
And much way in a better place.
I mean, I don't, my body's justhealthier, I don't get hormonal
(55:00):
acne anymore.
In fact, that's the otherreason I stopped.
I don't, my body's justhealthier, I don't get hormonal
acne anymore.
In fact, that's the otherreason I stopped.
I don't know if this is goingto show it.
I stopped because my your skinlooks perfect this is skincare
and I was starting to getdarkness.
So when you get darkness oncertain parts of your face, it's
because of a gut issue.
Liver damage, same thing, withacne, and so right.
(55:22):
And I have a growth on my liver, so right, when I saw the
darkness on my face I was like,nope, I, if this is starting to
hurt me on the inside, I'm out.
That was another mentality.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
Like you're not going to trade being healthy for
being skinny.
Yes, for sure.
That's what.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
I always tell people yeah, and this is period acne, I
have none.
So once you get your health andyour gut in order, you don't
have to go through all of thenonsense we go through when
we're struggling mentally andphysically.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
Mm-hmm, that was my second round, okay.
So, knowing what you know now,do you one regret taking it, and
two like what would you dodifferently?
I would say I guess would youdo it again Like you know.
(56:18):
Knowing what you know now, whatwould you tell yourself If you
could go back in time?
What would you tell yourself Ifyou?
Speaker 3 (56:25):
could go back in time , what would you tell yourself?
I will.
I would tell myself like justthe normal stuff, you are enough
.
I'm glad I did it because itgot me to this place where I'm.
I love my body.
I'm so proud.
When my husband needs helplifting something, I go out and
I help him.
I am strong.
I can get stuff done.
(56:45):
I'm learning and teaching mykids how to eat healthier and I
would never do it again.
And when people say they want todo it, I think it's important
that they do understand therisks.
Tell them I tell them thingsthat they need to look for.
(57:06):
What to expect, what?
What shows up on your skin?
That is bad.
So that's actually damagingyour insides.
Yes, you're getting skinnier,but what are you doing?
Long term, yeah, long-term, um,yeah, I want to tell myself no,
don't I.
(57:26):
I want to go back and tellmyself not to do it, but I
wouldn't have learned what Ilearned.
But when people say they wantto do it, I'm like listen, why
do you want to do it?
Like, what are your reasons?
Because if it's only to getskinny, you're going to damage a
whole bunch of stuff to getyourself there.
Speaker 1 (57:39):
Yes, and I think you're right.
Like the, your mental statematters when going into this.
Like if you decide to do it andyou are not willing to work out
to eat healthy, to you know,hit your protein numbers, eat
enough calories, and if you'rejust doing it to waste away on
the couch to be skinnier, that'sa problem.
(57:59):
And even if you're just doingit to waste away on the couch to
be skinnier, that's a problem.
And even if you do hit yourgoal weight, you will not be
happy because you're not healthymentally.
So for me, I see red flags withthat side for sure.
I'm like I have some friends andsome people I know that have
done it in an unhealthy way andI have some friends that have.
(58:22):
Actually they do have a reallygood mentality.
They are working out every day,they are eating healthy, they
are making sure that they'redoing it very slow and they're
doing like a micro dose is whatI've heard is like a triseptide,
not semi-glutide, that has likelower side effects and I just
see the difference where it'slike enough of the edge to kind
(58:45):
of help them hit their macros.
That's a completely differentexperience than someone that is
doing this, like you said, justto get skinny and not actually
care about their health, cause Iwhen, when this first came out,
I was very against it, like Iwas saying unless you have
obesity or diabetes, do nottouch this.
(59:06):
Like.
No, like we are not tradingbeing healthy for being skinny.
That's how I saw it, because Isaw all these people having gut
issues, which I'm like.
That's your number oneindicator of your health is your
gut.
Speaker 3 (59:20):
And we know that.
What do gut issues lead into?
They lead into hormonal issues,which leads to depression.
So exactly that.
Speaker 1 (59:28):
Well, and that's the other thing is, I heard that
there was some side effects ofdepression, because your gut
houses your serotonin levels, soif it's unhealthy, you're not
getting that feel good.
And so I just saw all thesethings and I'm like this is so
bad and I feel I do feel like,as it's starting to progress,
(59:49):
I'm seeing, okay, people arelearning like learning the
compounds, learning that youcan't do the doses, so high
learning, like, okay, we don'twant the food to rot in their
stomach.
So high learning, like, okay,we don't want the food to rot in
their stomach, you don't wantthe sulfur, sulfur burps and um,
(01:00:13):
you know, like I do feel likethere is definitely.
It depends on the intentionbehind it.
If you're willing to do it ahealthy way, do you even need it
?
Like you said, do you even needit?
Like I do feel, like so manypeople, it can be a miracle for
a lot of people.
It can also be a crutch, andthat's what I'm like.
(01:00:34):
Really I feel like we need toeducate people.
It's like do you really need it?
Is this going to make youhappier?
And if you're going to do it,let's help you do it the
healthiest way possible, Like Ido want to try to, because some
people it's been amazing and Idon't want them to feel shame or
guilt around it so.
I'm really trying to have thisopen dialogue, but I love what
(01:00:58):
you shared.
It got me so emotional, likewhat you're telling your
daughter and and what abeautiful place you're in right
now and seeing this beautifullike you.
Still you want to lift, youwant to be strong, you want to
be healthy, and you felt like,personally, it wasn't the best
thing for you and I honor that,like I love your story, I love
(01:01:20):
your experience.
I think it's an important storyto share and I think a lot of
people will be able to make adecision based off of what they
hear from you and if they'remaybe in that same boat.
I want to remind you that I amin no way pushing a medication
for weight loss.
My goal here is to try tobroaden your horizons.
(01:01:42):
I want to show you that thereare different ways to use this
medication.
I have seen a lot of benefitswith friends and family and
clients.
I've also seen people who havereally not liked the side
effects.
So, that being said, I'm hopingto broaden your horizon so that
we can remove shame, removejudgment and you can make the
(01:02:02):
best decision for you.
As always, I'm here to help withany questions regarding fitness
and nutrition and mindset andhabit coaching.
But if you have specificquestions about the medication,
I am not a doctor and I wouldnot give you medical advice.
I would suggest that you seekout your medical provider.
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