Finding Little Davy: The Hunt for Scientology's Leader - Scientology Q&A #33 - Blown for Good: Scientology Exposed

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
hey guys, welcome back to the channel.
Mark hedley here.
Uh, let me see if I could findout where the there.
She is sorry we're late guys.
I was doing another channelshow and we went a little over
and I had to get a whole newcamera and I had to get a whole
new setup and it was like awhole big rigmarole.
Anyway, here we are, we're live.

(00:33):
Say hi, claire.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Hey, hey, hey everybody, Thank you for your
patience.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Oh, my goodness, Thank you for your patience.
You know a lot of people havebeen asking where I've been and
I'm just going to read this notereal quick.
It says everything is fine, Iam OK.
I have not been locked up in acage by my wife.
Everything is perfectly OK andeverything is wonderful in my
life.

(00:59):
They told me to say that at thebattered husband's shelter.
Stop it, can people hear me?

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yes, they can hear you Somebody said, is Mark's
microphone on?

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Oh my God.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
Blink twice if you need to be rescued.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Yeah, no, I have been working.
Folks I have had I've had, youknow, scientology has been doing
everything they can to make itso that I can't do my job and
they're trying to ruin my, mybusiness life and I don't know
if I'm just slaying it recentlyor if I've been slaying it all

(01:42):
along, but I am not uh recently,or if I've been slaying it all
along but I am not.
Um, whatever work they'retaking away, I'm getting more
work from other places.
So, um, so, yeah, I'm trying todo, I'm trying to do that and
uh, and claire's been very busy,uh, on the channel and uh,
doing videos with other channelsand yeah, didn't Scientology

(02:07):
stories and where is Shelly?
So she's been doing just justgreat and and there's been a lot
of content coming out from her.
But, yeah, I am going to getback into the groove of things
again.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
And I'm not you, honey.
I've gotten so many questions.
They're like is Mark okay?

Speaker 1 (02:32):
I'm like, yes, he's fine, he's not even here, he's
not doing lives with Joe orBilly Bob, or even me, for that
matter.
Yeah, no, I, I, um, I haven'tbeen doing any lives with
anybody, except for the otherchannel that I was just doing a
live with, but it wasn't a live,actually, it was a.
It was a like a pre recordedvideo that they're going to edit
up, yep.
But but yeah, we have so manythings to talk about, guys, I

(02:57):
didn't.
I was going to make a wholebunch of notes, and you know I
usually try to make some notes,but at the end of the day, we're
just going to talk aboutwhatever I'm going to talk about
.
You know how it is.
Um, I did have to get a, um, adifferent camera, because the
person that I was doing a showwith, um, my iPhone, wouldn't

(03:19):
work on their platform.
So this is the first time I'mactually using this camera for a
video on our channel.
So if you like it, let me know,but otherwise I'm probably
going to switch back to my othercamera, because I like that
camera and just the way I hadthis set up.
I like it better.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
But I have to.
My vote is the other camera.
You look, I mean you look great, but you look more pixelated.
I do Not hugely, but I can seea difference.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Okay, well.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
I don't know about anybody else, that's what I see.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Okay, folks.
Well, you heard it here.
Claire's giving me the thumbsdown for this camera, but anyway
, it's all good, I don't care, Ithink I look.
You know I look like me.
You know it's not much you cando with this mug of mine, but
what was I going to say?
There's so much stuff happening.
I did put a thing in thethumbnail about like stuff

(04:19):
that's coming up withScientology.
There is so much stuffhappening right now behind the
scenes and I'm trying to thinkof what, like just even with
these spy files, the spy files,scientology has about 40,000

(04:40):
pages of documents which have,which are getting to see the
light of day, and the morepeople that go through these
documents, the more things wefind that are just in sane.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, and let's not forget, this is the 40,000 that
we have access to.
There are hundreds of thousandsthat they have.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Totally yeah, it's.
It's it's sort of um that theyhave.
Totally yeah, it's.
It's, it's sort of um.
It's sort of ridiculous abouthow much stuff that they put in
writing to each other, that theytalk about, that they should
not be putting in writing toeach other and talking about.
And it's so funny to me that atthe international headquarters
we would have to do theshredding every single day and

(05:23):
no matter where you worked.
If there was a piece of paperthat had writings or
communications on and you wroteit to somebody and then they
wrote you something back, youwould have to.
When it was all done, you wouldhave to shred it, even if it
was just like hey, I need a pairof contacts, my contacts are

(05:45):
worn out, I need a new pair.
Please approve $40 so I can geta month supply of contacts.
If you got that back and it wasapproved and you ended up
getting your contacts, you wouldhave to shred that document
because nobody needs to knowthat you're trying to get your
contacts.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Nor that you had to ask for approval to get your
contacts.
Yeah, somebody said my lightingis terrible and that you got
approval.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Somebody said my lighting is terrible.
Oh no, yep, see, that's whatI'm telling you.
This camera it's got differentcolor temps and anyway, I don't
care about it.
I'm not that excited about thelighting I had in the first
place, but we're going to stickit out, folks.
We're going to stick it out.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
All right, you're welcome to jump out for two
minutes.
I can shout out to everybody.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
I'm good.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Where they came from.
Okay, it's all good.
Yep.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Thank you, anada.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
I appreciate it I appreciate it, thanks, thank.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Welcome back to you too, anata, anata and.
Anata, yeah, shout out to Caseyin the house.
Were we 12 minutes late?
No, we weren't 12.
It was 5 0 5.
Come on.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yeah, we were.
We were having a good laugh inthe chat about how you had to
find your password and you know,because it had been so long
since you logged in, that'sexactly what happened.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
No, I, literally I was going to I had done the
other video.
I actually have to go back andfinish that video with that
other channel.
Because I said, hey, I got todo a live.
But then she was like, okay,well, when you're done we'll go
back.
And so then I thought, well, ifI switch back over to my other
camera, then I'm going to haveto switch back.
And then so I was like you knowwhat?
I'm just going to do with thiscamera and leave everything the

(07:29):
way it is, okay, anyway.
Yeah, see, people are saying hewas way too base, heavy and
this is better.
You know, I haven't changed myaudio setup at all.
It's, that's been pretty good,but I do have.
I think my voice does have alittle bit more bass.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
It does.
Yep, I can hear that.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Anyway, I'm sorry guys about the camera.
I'll put the other camera back.
Next time we do a video It'llhave that camera.
How about that?

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, we'll be good.
We're going to?
We are.
We agreed we're going to do a40K subscriber count celebration
, which is coming up shortly.
What do you mean?
What are we at right now?
We're not there yet.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Well, I know, but we could get there in this thing,
okay.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
I'm just saying we're at 39,502.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Okay, well, I'm going to get my little counter.
There's a way I can put thecounter up here.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
By the way, look what I got from Ms Pillow.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Oh, Quacker Liquor.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
I think it's pretty funny.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
I don't know how to.
Oh, here it is, this is it.
There's a way to.
Oh, yeah, see, live count39,500, 500 more subscribers and
we hit 40,000.
Yeah, you know I don't want todo the longest live in the world
, but if you're not a subscriberyet, you could put us over the
top.
We're going to give, we'regoing to do some giveaways
tonight and we'll do, if we do a40, I'll tell you what.

(08:55):
If we do a 40,000, well, I'llgive away five.
I'll give away five books If wehit 40 K or five or five things
from the merch store.
We have a lot of merch.
You know, people have beensending pictures and we got to
do this too.
And at the Blown for Goodwebsite, if you want to send us
a picture, do they have it setup?
I'm going to say it's set upand hopefully those pictures, we

(09:16):
get those pictures.
Yep, it's set up.
But if you go toblownforgoodcom and you're and
you've already got some merchfrom us and you want more merch,
send us a picture with themerch that you do have and we'll
pick.
We'll pick some of the bestpictures and we'll send you some
more merch that you don't have.
We've got, uh, we've got thosehail.
Zinu mugs, we've got um, we'vegot.

(09:39):
Zinu is my homeboy.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
We even added some Claire bear merch.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
We got Claire Bear mugs.
We got Xenu is my homeboy.
We got Xenu is my homeboysweatshirts, t-shirts, tank tops
, hats, mouse pads.
We got a lot of merch, butpeople have been sending in

(10:07):
pictures of them with either abobblehead or their SP bracelet
or their Xeno is my homeboysweatshirt at Scientology
organizations, which I think ishilarious.
I mean, I don't want you toharass them, but a picture ain't
?
You know that ain't no sweatoff anybody's back Come on no
absolutely.
But yeah, if you've got merchand you've got a good picture of
you with the merch, then sendus a picture, go to

(10:28):
blownforgoodcom, I think it's.
Can you tell them what the?
We'll put a link in thedescription for the Blown for
Good site, but I think it'scontact us or you know whatever
you think would be the placewhere you'd send us something
and that's where it is and youcan attach an image and you can.
You can shoot it right to me.
Um and um, yeah, sub it up.

(10:50):
We got, uh, we're at five 12already.
See, some of you did somethingbecause it's now the numbers
difference 39, five, 12.
Um, so I'll just keep that overhere.
I just got a little thing thatsays what that is.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
So I'm just gonna you know, kind of keeping a little
peek at that.
So yeah, I did.
I just checked the site and itis contact us.
It has the option for you toadd your name, your email and
attach files, so to submit fanart or file.
It has a spot where you caninclude that.
So, um, and the whole intentionof that was for shoops and
bobblehead picks and merch picksand all of that fun stuff.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Nice, yeah, we, um, we used to do a thing, um, where
we would do these shoops everyweek.
We just people would send us,um Photoshopped documents that
were hilarious and um.
But then we started gettinginto the spy files and we
started getting into whereShelley and Scientology stories
and I just thought it was sortof like it was fun to do the

(11:47):
shoops.
But if we've got real stuff totalk about, we're going to talk
about the real stuff and um,although I love having a good
time while talking about realstuff.
So if you've got shoops oryou've got bobblehead pics or
you've got funny uh pics, thenum, then send them and we'll
show them.
How about that?

(12:08):
We're not going to make, weprobably won't make a big
production out of it, but youknow, if there's some good stuff
, then you know we'll show them.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
My vote is that when we do the 40K celebration that
we should, we can pop up some ofthe most popular ones that won.
Like we can pop up some of themost popular ones that won, Like
we can do a best of the best,like people can vote on the best
of all the winners, orsomething like that.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
When are we supposed to do this 40,000 celebration?

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Whenever we hit 40,000.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Oh, so we're not going to do it and try to get to
40K.
I thought we were going to likego, like, let's get 40 K.
I'll tell you what if we don'thave 40 K.
I'll tell you this If we get 40K, we'll do a video on Sunday.
Can we do a video on Sunday?
Yeah, can I have permission todo a video on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Stop it, I've been trained.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
I've been trained.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
since you guys haven't seen me, oh my gosh, I
don't want to get any.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
I don't want to get any.
How many?

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Do I need to come down there and talk to you?

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Lashings.
Yeah, I don't want to get anymore lashings.
Stop it.
If we do get to 40K, we'll do avideo on Sunday, and if we get
close to 40K, we'll do a videoon Sunday and try to get to 40K.
How about that?
Um but um, because we have somany, we do have you have to

(13:33):
leave again on Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Yes, I've got another trip following week, so after
that we'll be back on a regularviewing schedule and people
won't have to be concerned foryour wellbeing any longer.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, and I know the people that are watching lives.
Those are probably the mostlikely people that are
subscribed, because they got anotice that we're going to do a
live, so now they're here, Um,but uh, yeah, I got to go back
in the cage again, guys.
So you got to get me the.
Uh, you got to get me thosesubs.
Man, I'm not gonna I get letout based on subs.
Okay, and we.
That's the only reason we gotout now because we're almost to

(14:02):
40K.
So, anyway, you need to ask foreach of us touring a friend to
sub.
Yeah, ask a friend to sub.
Anyway, I'm reading the liveswhile doing the video, which I
normally don't do because I havenotes.
And because I don't have notes,I'm doing that.

(14:22):
Surge, people are saying hereI'm going to put it up.
How about that?
By the way, how's Surge doing?
Surge is doing great, guys.
I want to tell you that Surgereads the comments of the videos
.
I talked to him the other dayand he's been reading the
comments.
So the people that are likeSurge good going, great for you,
all that good stuff he'sreading that and he is thrilled

(14:45):
that people are loving the story.
And I said you know otherpeople.
There's some other people thataren't getting too much love in
the comments, but that's not youserge um, but um, he, he, he.
He really does like the readingabout and seeing people like it

(15:07):
and he's also people that wentto the people that were in the
cadet organization when he was akid.
He was in this thing called theCEO or the cadet estates
organization, so sort of like,where they used to babysit Sea
Org members, kids andScientology.
It was a Sea Org unit that wasin charge of the kids and he's

(15:29):
talked to a bunch of people thatwere there, a bunch of people
that were in the Sea Org withhim that are now out of
Scientology or out of the SeaOrganization.
So he has had.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
I mean I want to say he had, like he maybe had four
people in his four or fivepeople in his contact list- and
he's got about 15 or 20 now Ithink, just based on all the
people that he talked, that hetold me that he's talking to,
yeah, and he even was able toreconnect or not even reconnect

(16:02):
connect with a half sister hedidn't even know he had.
He was absolutely thrilled.
Um, he, he, uh, somebody sentin pillowcases that were
amusement theme, amusement parktheme.
He got those today and he waslike, oh my gosh, I love them.
Somebody made him a quilt and Isent him the picture and he was
like, oh my gosh, I'm soexcited, I love it.

(16:24):
Anyway, it's awesome.
And then, um, a number ofpeople gave him donations
through our, um, the blown forgood merch store, so we got
those to him.
Anyway, he, he reallyappreciates all the support and
he is amazing.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
And whoever sent that button?
Somebody sent in a um, a thingfor people that have hooks to be
able to use button button-upshirts to do zip-ups, zippers oh
no, it's for buttons oh, it is,oh okay, buttons okay anyway,
um, so we sent him that.
He was really excited.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
I told him about that um, they, they even sent the
youtube video of how to use it.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
We said that to him, yeah yes, obviously one of us
did not watch it Um not sayingwho yeah, her initials rhyme
with hair.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Oh funny.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Um, anyway, I, that's a joke, her initials rhyme with
hair Bedley.
Um, anyway, um, so, yes, soSerge is doing amazing and yes,
if you did send in donations viathe merch store or the blown
for good side, or however youdid it, we he still trying to

(17:36):
figure out if there's anotherway we can do, um, something
where we could, you know, um,get him additional, you know,
spending money and stuff likethat.
For now, that's how we're doingit, but, um, we don't want him
to lose his benefits or any ofhis stuff.

(17:58):
So, um, we're trying to do thatjust very carefully so that he
doesn't uh, he doesn't risk hisum, his, he doesn't risk the
resources that he does haveaccess to now.
Yep, and then we have the spyfiles.
We're going to start doing somemore spy files on our end.

(18:18):
I've been working with a lot ofpeople that are covering those
now and we've just basicallybeen.

(18:39):
I've been working on trying toget as many files to as many
other people as possible so thatit's not just me doing a video
on YouTube every week about onefile, so that we can sort of
have like a massive impact andI'll just say an international,
widespread impact.
I'll just leave it at that.
But these files are makingtheir ways around a lot of
places, and that was anotherthing that we realized is that

(19:06):
we thought that there was justillegal activities happening in
the United States, and then,when we started looking through
the files, we started findingout a lot of other foreign
governments would like to seesome of these documents and what
Scientology is doing abroad,and so, yeah, so it's more
important trying to figure outhow to say this without not
coming.
It's just more important thatwe do what's good to for the
cause of getting the informationout and exposing Scientology,

(19:28):
as opposed to just for ourchannel.
So I've been.
I've been trying to resist theurge to do as many videos as
possible and work on these otherthings and and that's sort of
starting to pay off now.
It's just taken a few moremonths than I thought it would
take and but, but it's really.
It's really exciting, guys, andwe have so much stuff in the

(19:49):
works that are just going to um,you know it's just going to
start um, snowballing in termsof, um, the impact, and you know
we did this um, australian, uh60 minutes uh show and that
thing.
I don't know Can you pull thatup, claire?
I don't know how many viewsthat's up to, but the last time

(20:11):
I looked, well, let's just seewhat it's at now, cause I don't
want to say it was a blah, blah,blah and it's got, like, you
know, eight more views than whenI saw it a week ago.
But I'm trying to, I'm tryingto pump up that Um, but, um, I'm
trying to, uh, I'm trying topump up that, uh, that video.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
It says 1.6 million views two weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Exactly so.
Last time I looked at it it wasabout a million, so it's about
it's 1.6.
Yeah, okay, now that to me, um,it's great that we do videos on
our channel and they'reunedited and they're on sort of
filtered and we just get to saywhatever we want.
But a show like that that'sgoing to get a good message out
and it's going to reach 1.6million people, that's something

(20:53):
I'm going to spend some timedoing.
And you know, I did get someweird comments from some people,
like there was this certainwording of the way they said
certain things.
Or we didn't talk about this,or we didn't talk about that, or
we didn't talk about the JaneDoe's more.
We didn't edit the show, guys.
We didn't write it, we didn'tedit it, we didn't produce it.
They interviewed us and,luckily, a few minutes of what

(21:17):
we had to say made it into theshow and they aired it.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
We didn't even know who else was going to be on the
show until it aired Exactly.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
So all the haters out there that are like you didn't
do this, you didn't do that, itwasn't my show, okay, I agreed
to appear on it because Ithought they might you know,
they might use some of the stuffthat we had to say and they did
, and I think it turned outgreat.
So, anyway, had to say, andthey did, and I think it turned

(21:48):
out great.
So, um, anyway.
So I'm just saying that becauseI was sort of like you know, we
do what we do, we have lives,we have jobs, we do other things
, and then we spend a certainamount of time, um, exposing
scientology.
That's our side gig.
Okay, if you want to say that'swhat we do as a hobby, okay,
it's not my job.
So when I do it, and I do likeI think we slayed it, okay, we

(22:11):
both got to be on it, we bothgot to be together and they shot
us in the same room with thesame cameras.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Which had only ever happened before once on the
aftermath show, I think, or ontwo episodes of the Aftermath
where we were actually even inthe same room.
We've filmed a number of timestogether.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
They flew a crew to Colorado.
We didn't have to go anywhere.
And then, and we did the show,it turned out great and it's 1.6
million people saw it.
And then somebody writes mesaying you guys, never you
didn't talk about the Jane DoesHate to break it to you.
We did.
They didn't include that.

(22:51):
Ok, I didn't edit it and Ididn't write it anyway, but it
was so weird to me that we didall that.
And then that's the thing.
I'm like those are the, thoseare the fans that are supposedly
or or friends or whatever.
That said that and I was sortof like I'm, I'm like, okay, I
don't know, I get, I give up,you know.
And so, um, yeah, 60 minutes,australia, thank you very much.

(23:17):
It was a great program, um, andanybody who's got any
complaints right to them?
Um, anyway, so, so thathappened.
And what else did we do?
Claire's been on fire on theseother channels.
There's a whole bunch ofchannels that have been writing
to us, and when we had like5,000 subscribers or 8,000 or
whatever, I was just like, hey,we need to work on our channel.

(23:40):
And then, when some of theseother channels started writing
to us, when we got up into the30,000 or whatever.
It's like.
You know what let's, let's seewhat these guys let's go on
their channel.
So, anyway, it's all good.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, it's been fun.
I've had some reallyinteresting conversations with a
lot of people.
The two interviews I did withShalee Sola from Cults to
Consciousness aired this week.
That was just amazingconversation and it's really I
think it's.
We're growing this massivenetwork that is just gaining
momentum and the beauty andpower of this is quite unlike

(24:18):
anything we've seen in the 18years that we've been
aggressively attacked byScientology and OSA, so it's
really something.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Yeah, and we used to.
I mean, we used to do like avideo on Karen Delacarriere's
channel back in the early dayswhen she was like the only
person her and who was it?
Mark Bunker had a channel, toriChrisman had a channel and we
used to do, we used to do theirshows.
We used to do shows with thoseguys.

(24:49):
I do I sit down and talk toJeff Augustine for two hours, or
you know we do that stuff andit was sort of like you know
we're just trying to get theword out and we had a channel
that whole time.
We've had a channel.
Whole time we've had a channel.
We've had a I think the blownfor good channel has been around
since like 2008 I want to sayyeah, I don't even know.

(25:12):
I don't even know how long I'vehad the channel.
I want to say it's 2008 yeah uh, at least 2009, when the book
came out, um and um, and we werejust sort of like, whatever you
know, you know.
And now what's her name?
Jenna Jenna Miscavige.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
I know I, just I want to say it has like 7,000
subscribers.
No, no, she's up to like 8,500.
It's ridiculous.
She put it up on August 17th,so it was like a week ago, and I
was like she has no content.
She has no content.
It she has no content.
She has no content.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
It's amazing, she has 8,000 subscribers, so to all
the almost 1,300 people here.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Don't forget to subscribe to Jenna too.
Yeah, oh, here's Goldie PerfectLook.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Goldie, jenna Miscavige, a channel with zero
content, gained 8.25.
So what is that?
8,250 subscribers in less than24 hours, okay, um, so if you
haven't if you haven'tsubscribed to our channel,
subscribe.
If you have subscribed to ourchannel, go subscribe to Jenna

(26:16):
Miscavige's channel.
She might even come out with avideo one of these days and you
might even get to watch it.
Um, but um, we it's so funnybecause a lot of the people.
We it's so funny because a lotof the people that, when we
escaped Claire, a lot of thepeople that we used to talk to
and that we were like you needto do, you should totally write
a book, you should totally writea book.
And they're like oh, I couldnever do that.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
And like Ron senior was a perfect example of that.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
Oh, I was talking to Ron senior for so long and then
when he finally was like I'mgoing to do it, I was like what
are you going to do?
He's like I'm going to write abook.
I'm like not another one ofthese stupid stories.
He's like no, no, no, I'm goingto write a book about my time
in Scientology.
I was like, okay, good, hewrote that book that I told him
not to make the title of it,whatever it was.

(27:02):
What did he call the book?
Hideouts.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Hideouts.
Oh, not the final title.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no thetitle of that little storybook
that he did.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
He just wrote a little.
I'm not going to say the title.
You have to look it up onAmazon.
It's Ron Miscavige's first book.
The video will get demonetizedif even I say the title of that
book Um but um.
But he did it and I toldeverybody that that book.
People are going to thinkthat's about David Miscavige
that book, and he wouldn't.

(27:35):
He didn't believe me, butanyway, um.
But then he ended up writinghis book, um, and I was like you
know what he?
He really did a good job withhis book and, um, it got a lot
of exposure.
He did a ton of media, um, butthen Jenna did.
Jenna did a book years beforehis and her book.

(27:56):
I think her book might still bein the top 10, uh, books on
Amazon on Scientology Uh, mybook used to be in the top 10,
um, the top 10 when we wereselling it on Amazon.
But I think the only thing wesell on Amazon really these days
is the Kindle and the audiobook.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah, we shut down the account.
And speaking of books, by theway, Liz Gale just put out her
new book.
It's now available on Amazon.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
I was listening to her.
She was doing a video.
She was actually doing a livevideo today.
She made such a great point inthat video about perspective.
Because she has children thatare growing up.
She thinks about what she wasdoing and she was thinking about

(28:45):
what she was doing inScientology and what her parents
were having her do inScientology at the same age and
that her kid is at now and shejust like, why would you do that
?
Like, I think her parents senther off to the Scientology
boarding school in Oregon,delphi, the Delphian foundation
or the Delphian school, orwhatever they call themselves.
This day, when she was eightyears old, they sent her off to

(29:09):
boarding school.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
And I thought you've got to be kidding me Eight years
old.
We've done that same thing thatLiz was talking about so many
times.
We've talked about it beforetoo.
I was four years old when mymother joined the SEER
organization, so when our kidswere that age, it was really
like it was.
Having having our kids gave me,helped me, gain my own

(29:33):
perspective on my childhood,because up until we had kids, I
was still even though I was outof Scientology still just like
oh, whatever, I'm not going totalk about it.
You know, I didn't even wedidn't even really talk about it
that much.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
It's like, you know, just leave the past behind,
let's not talk about that shitthese other points of view on

(30:08):
Scientology and it's so crazy tome that all these people can
have a totally different storybut the same exact things are
happening.
I know Same exact stories arecoming out.
And you think, and Scientologymade a real big point of saying
this when we were speaking outin 2006 and 2007 and 2008,.
They made a big point of saying, yes, there was physical

(30:30):
violence going on, yes, therewere horrible things going on,
and it was these guys that weredoing it.
It was Mark and Claire andMichael, mike Rinder, and these
were the people.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Marty Rathbun.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Marty Rathbun, mike Rinder, and these were the
people Marty Rathbun, martyRathbun, these were the people
that were pushing the violenceand pushing all these things.
And then you find out you talkto somebody who escaped two
weeks ago and the stuff's stillgoing on Yep, and the craziness
and the stories.
And then you talk to LizFerrisris and you find out they

(31:04):
told her her father passed awaywhen he didn't.
And you've, and you're justlike.
This is the stuff that endedwhen we left in 2005 and you're
still doing it, like last weekand the week before and two
months ago, and it's just likeyou know, it's just like you
don't.
Like you know, it's just likeyou don't.

(31:24):
You couldn't think that it'sstill doing, it's still going on
, and and they said it wasn'tgoing on, and you thought OK
maybe they pretended that theystopped, so you know, or they
really did stop because westarted talking about it, you
thought, ok, and I did hear somestories that now they don't.
If one, if, if a female getspregnant in the C organization,
they, they let them leave, andthey don't.

(31:45):
If a woman, if a, if a femalegets pregnant in the C
organization, they, they letthem leave, and they don't.
They can't say anything.
They can kind of like hope thatthey, they, they terminate it,
but if they don't, then theyjust have to let them leave.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
But as of but, as of two weeks ago, we found out that
they're back to the same, backto the same old I know.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
So that's so then we hear a story that they're doing
it again and you just go likeokay, so they're just the, the.
You know what is it?
The?
Uh, the cat.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
The cat can't change its stripes or you know, I don't
know what to say.
You can't teach an old dog newtricks.
I know that one, but uh, okay,well, you think I personally
somebody's got to help me out.
They couldn't be so stupid tokeep doing the things that
everybody the entire earth,everyone on earth agrees that

(32:34):
these practices are destructiveand evil and not okay.
And yet they got to get back toit.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Leopard can't change its spots.
That's the comments.
Thank you, thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you, comments, for comingto my rescue.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
And sweet liberty.
You guys are amazing, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, and also they do have.
I mean, we, we know to anextent they can't change their
spots because they have to relyon L Ron Hubbard and all the
things that he wrote.
But David Miscavige has beenchanging things that David, that
L Ron Hubbard wrote, for 40, 50years and it hasn't stopped
them at all.

(33:15):
So you think well, if, if, ifDavid Miscavige really did want
to change the things that werehappening, he would just come up
with the reason why thesecertain things had to change, or
L Ron Hubbard didn't actuallywe found out L Ron Hubbard
didn't actually write that orwhatever the other excuses he's

(33:36):
been using to change all theother things that he's been
changing for the last 40 years.
He could just use that tochange these other things, but
they're not.
They're not working on changingguys.
They're working on shutting usup and shutting down the SPs and
telling all the Scientologistshow bad we are and all the bad

(33:58):
things about us.
And, funnily enough, I thinkthat might be what's leading all
the Scientologists to ourchannels.
Is them talking smack about us?
Because Scientologists find outabout these big bad SPs that
are on YouTube and they're onFacebook and they're on the
Internet.
We should show that I don'tknow if we've ever done a video
about the Facebook police likeJim Meskimen and those guys that

(34:21):
were writing to all my friendson Facebook.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Javier Ruiz's wife.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
You've got a friend on Facebook.
That's bad news.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
And all these people that we know too, like Laurieann
Isaacson and.
Prudence Tweedy I mean, come onpeople.
Prudence Millsap, let's justname names because this is what
they do and I'm not friends withthem, obviously, and they've
got me blocked, but I'm surethey're up to their same old
nonsense.
But yeah, speaking of Hubbard,by the way, I started

(34:51):
re-listening to Bareface Messiah, which is on my shelf back here
, and it was just mind-bogglinghow Scientology fought that book
tooth and claw.
And when I was listening todayI was laughing because in the
court case one of Scientology'stactics was like oh, you can't
use L Ron Hubbard's photo.

(35:11):
Scientologists are going tothink this is his actual
biography.
And the judge was like really,the title is Bare-Faced Messiah.
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah, and you know, that is actually one of the
clues that we got early on whenwe started doing stuff on
Scientology is you don't have tomake up anything in regards to
Scientology, just tell exactlywhat happened name names, name
places and times.

(35:44):
What happened, name names, nameplaces and times and the
chances are somebody out therewas there and they're gonna be
like, yep, that happened andthat is exactly what's been
happening with all the peoplethat have been telling their
stories.
You've got these Scientologistsor people that just were in
Scientology as a child or theyworked with somebody that was a

(36:05):
Scientologist or whatever.
They were just Scientologyadjacent and they know about
some of these things.
And then you do have thesepeople that like escaped and
they've never told anybody intheir family that they're not in
Scientology and they don't evencare anymore.
And they start speaking out andthen it's like, oh, there's
this new big bad SP.
It's like, no, this person'sbeen there the whole time and

(36:29):
you didn't have a hate side outabout them.
But as soon as they starttelling their story, you're like
, oh well, it's time.
You know, turn on the site,turn on the PIs, turn on the.
You know all these differentthings that they do.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Yeah, Fire up that domain name that we purchased
five years ago.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Yeah, well, you know, this is something that's really
crazy.
And so, for those of you don'tknow, on X, there is a thing
that's been on there this wholetime where Scientologists can
block SPs.
So they can block blown forgood at blown for good.

(37:06):
That's my, that's my X handle,and they can block that.
Well, when they block it andthey tweet about me or or or
another S Scientology, oh, sabat, or whoever, when they tweet
bad things about me, I can't seethem because they have me
blocked.
Well, because it's sort of beenthat way, and if somebody's

(37:30):
hating on me and my channel, I'mlike, whatever, I don't ever
see it unless they block me.
I just don't see it.
If they don't have me blocked,I might see these things, and
every once in a while I do and Iinteract, and then they just
block me right away.
So then I'm like, okay,somebody says X, is that some
porn site?
No, it's what.

(37:51):
It's what they used to callTwitter.
You maniac.
Where have you been.

Speaker 2 (37:54):
It's so annoying, though, why did I?

Speaker 1 (37:55):
have to go from Twitter to X.
Well, people are saying Irefuse to call it X, that's what
it's called.
You can call it whatever youwant, but that's what the name
is now.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
I'm with them.
Okay, I don't care.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
I'm just going to tell you what's about to happen.
And Scientology is literallyabout to lose their minds.
So they have this thing whereScientologists can block SPs on
X, aka Twitter, and what happensis I'm talking about you know,
I'm talking about xenu he's myhome boy how we busted him out

(38:30):
of the cave, that he that uh,they, the loyal officers locked
him in all this stuff.
Well, scientologists are notsupposed to see any of that
stuff and because they have meblocked, they're never going to
see it.
Well, guess what's gettingblocked?
The block feature on X isgetting blocked.
So there's going to be no moreblocking, unless I think I'm

(38:52):
trying to.
I don't even know who you can.
I don't think you could blocksomebody on there.
I don't know.
There's going to be some way.
Anyway, I don't know exactlyhow it's going to work out, but
regardless, scientologists arenot going to be able to use X
anymore because the SPs will notbe able to be blocked.

(39:15):
So I know some people don't have.
They have different ideas aboutstuff.
I'm a Tesla, I'm a big Teslafan and I'm a big SpaceX fan.
So if you got a problem withthat, I'm sorry.
I like not paying because Ihave solar.
It's charging my car for free.
I like that.
I do also drive a Ram 2500diesel when I'm not driving the

(39:38):
Tesla.
So I'm not necessarily yourtypical tree hugger kind of guy,
because I got to haul equipmentaround and I need a big truck.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Actually, I would quite like to see you hug a tree
, honey.
That would be kind of funny.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
I've scratched my back on a tree many a time, time
like a bear, but uh anyway, buteither way, um we should call
it x pka twitter pk format.
What's p?
Previously?
Previously paka x, paka twitteranyway, um.
So regardless, um, there's alot of people.

(40:12):
There's a lot of people on Xand there is a lot of people we
do.
Actually, I have a lot of Xfollowers on X, so so I use it
and this video right now isstreaming on X.
So, yeah, so Scientology ismost likely going to have to get

(40:34):
off X.
Another platform platformthey've already Facebook is
pretty much banned for mostScientologists.
I think you can block people onFacebook, but there's a lot of
Scientologists that use Facebookto talk to SPs.
They message SPs and stuff likethat, even though they're not
friends.
I don't exactly know how theydo it.

(40:55):
But, and also, xenu's namestarts with X.
Come on, guys.
It's just a match made inheaven and people get on my case
because I make fun of theirbeliefs.
I'm not making fun of theirbeliefs.
Xenu is my homeboy, I'm friendswith him.

(41:15):
Okay, I'm not making fun ofthem.
I just think that it'sridiculous that if you have an
intergalactic overlord thatimprisoned billions and billions
of people and transported themnine light years from his planet
and brought them to earth anddid all of that, and you hear
the story and you're gonna geton the side of a guy, a

(41:38):
four-foot thirteen guy namedDave.
You're gonna go on his team andsays he news team, I'm on team
Xena, that's what I'm justsaying.
Okay, so, regardless of whatyou think of their beliefs, if
they really do believe in anintergalactic space alien, why
would you team up with Dave,with little Davey?
I just don't think that's areally it's just not a good

(42:02):
decision.
Anyway, so there's that.
Speaking of little Davey.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
we have some really exciting news.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
We do Do you have the stuff?
Do you have the stuff?

Speaker 2 (42:12):
No, I don't, oh, you were supposed to get that ready?

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Okay, no, I don't.
Oh, you were supposed to getthat ready.
Okay, we are going to.
In the next video, we do.
We are going to show you somephotos of the little Davy doll.
The little Davy doll is coming.
The little Davy doll.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
Prepare to be amused.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
The little Davy doll is being made.
We have several thousand littleDavies coming our way Way in
time for Christmas and thelittle Davy dolls are going to

(42:48):
be a fundraiser for theaftermath foundation and
everyone we sell is going to goto help um is going to help to
support the aftermath foundationand people that do escape from
Scientology and need help andneed a helping hand getting
their feet back down on theirfeet on the ground and start
their lives over or reconnectwith their family.
That's not in Scientology, orwhatever they need.

(43:08):
These little Davy dolls aregoing to go help that.
And these little Davy dolls Idon't have.
I did have one sample and Igave it to somebody that was
very important to me, and sothat person has the only one in
existence right now.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
But when I do.
We can guarantee you this.
The only person who will not belaughing is Captain Davy
himself.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Yes, captain Davy is not going to like these.
Captain Davy dolls and you knowwe are going to have to do a,
we're going to have to do somekind of survey.
We've we've got about 10 namesthat are the best names that.
We got the troll of the hole.
We got the troll of the board.
TOB, the troll of the board,little Davy doll, captain Davy

(43:54):
doll, the troll from Down Under.
I mean, we've got so many goodnames for this little Davy doll,
but little Davy doll is whatI'm just going to, because
everybody knows who little Davyis and there's a little Davy
doll but so many good things.
Captain of the hole.
Little Captain Davy doll.

(44:15):
David Miscavige hates beingcalled Davy, he hates being
called captain and he hatespeople bringing up his height.
So a little Davy doll is sortof or little Captain Davy doll,
sort of just I don't know, trollthe holes, troll the board,
they're all good.
Anyway, we'll have to figureout a name and we might end up
calling him all of those thingsand then that way, whatever

(44:39):
website Scientology sets up,we'll just come up with new
names to call it.
Because if they don't, ifthey're not buying up all these
domain names, little Davy dolland troll the whole, if they're
not buying up all these domains,I don't know what OSA has been
up to.
I mean, osa, get the, get onthe ball.
Okay, um, okay.

(45:00):
Should we do a giveaway?
It's 45 minutes in 1500 peopleup in here.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Um, I think we should take a little break.
Yes, yes, time to have some fun.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
Um, let's just do.
I'm going to do whatever I'mgoing to.
We're just going to let it fly,we're just going to let our
freak flags fry and we're goingto say if you want a book, say
book.
If you want to merge, say merge.
You know, if you want an SPbracelet, um if you want a
bobblehead whatever, just saywhatever you can say, whatever,

(45:31):
that's also that'll, that's awinner, um, whatever um get the
comments.
I'm going to give people.
I like to.
I like to really let peoplelike if you're watching on Apple
TV, you got to get out yourphone, you got to go to the
channel, you got to find thevideo, you got to get in the
comments.
I know what it takeslogistically to get up in there
sometimes, um, depending on whatyou're watching on.

(45:53):
According to YouTube, about 75%of you are watching on a device
that's in your hands, but thereare some other people.
So let's see.
Oh yeah, there we go.
Let's see what we've got here.
Let's do a five.
Let's do a countdown from five.
Oh yeah, there we go, it'sgoing.

(46:14):
Now I see it.
When my StreamYard starts tofreeze up, I know they're really
rocking it out in the commentsthere.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
I know it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Okay, here we go.
This is it.
And skadoosh, I didn't do thecountdown out loud, I did it in
my head.
I'm sorry, june Robertsbobblehead, you got it, june
Roberts, and you can say thatyou won and that you'd like a
bobblehead.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
Send us your address and we will get that off to you.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
We'll shoot you.
Anything Stranger than fiction,I will take anything.
How about a thank you, thankyou.
Stranger than fiction, that'sanything.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
I just wanted to give you anything.
I'm going to do a giveaway too.
Oh yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Rocky road.
Zeno is my homeboy.
Congratulations, june Roberts.
Yes, thank you, dom's mom.
Seven to five.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Thank you.
Let me do one thing here.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
What are you doing to do?

Speaker 2 (47:07):
I'm going to do Lisa.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
Oh, you just picked one.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Yes, because Lisa sent me this really awesome SPTV
pouch that I made the SPTVcreator survival kit that I
showed on the live with Amy.
I had, like, my phone, you know, so you can film the PIs.
I had pepper spray, you know,because you've got to be
protected and you've got to becareful.
And then I had poopery because,you know, osa smells like poo.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Nice, nice, very.
Sounds like it Sounds good,lisa.
Whatever you want, osa smellslike poo, nice, nice, very.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
It sounds like.
Whatever you want, shoot me anemail.
You know how to reach me.
Well, no, but earlier she saidbook.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
So oh well, whatever it's all good Give her both Give
her both.
How about that, okay?
Um, awesome, we'll see.
There you go.
I love giving stuff away.
I tell you, we have so muchgood merch.
I love when people wear themerch out and about and take
pictures and the Zinu I'm tryingto think what's doing the best.

(48:04):
I think the mugs really do well, but we have got a lot of
sweatshirts, the hoodies, a lotof those Blown for Good hoodies,
and Zinu is my homeboy and hailxenu all we have the whole.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Where is shelly?

Speaker 1 (48:20):
oh, that's right, those do pretty good too.
The where shelly stuff is umpretty good as well.
So there's a lot of merch.
If you haven't been over to theblown for good store link is in
the description.
You should go over there andcheck it out.
Um, christmas is coming up.
Folks, people love merch.
If you know somebody thatwatches this channel, send them
a mug.
Send them a mouse pad, sendthem a hat.

(48:43):
Send them a hat.
Send them an SP bracelet.
Tell you those SP.
I've been wearing my SPbracelet.
I mean, I don't take it off foranything.
I think when I was in thehospital I had to take it off.
That's the only time I take itoff.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Yeah, and that was years ago.
That was years ago.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
That wasn't before I went to the battered husband
shelter.
I swear that never happened.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Seriously stop it.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Oh, my goodness, Claire looks so good.
Okay, Look at this cut.
They got to cut my hair shortbecause you know, you know he
gets pulled out in toughs.
You got to keep that.
Uh, got to keep it.
So it's.
It's non grabbable.
That's what you really got tohave.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
Um, that's what they teach.
You do know we we had our 31stanniversary at the battered
husband's shelter.
That's right, get that hairshort man.
Sarah Forbear says Mark, youwere fit back in the day.
I was fit back in the day.
I was very skinny.

(49:46):
You could see my ribs.
You could see my ribs too.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
You always used to call me a T-Rex because my spine
protruded so badly.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
I used to uh, I don't know about that, I didn't
always call you T-Rex, only oncein a while.
That wasn't a play name, um,anyway.
Um, I, I used to have a sixpack when I was in the CR, just
cause I didn't eat a lot, butnow I have a two liter.
So you know, here's what it iswhen some you lose some.

(50:16):
Um, I think I got a 12 pack,not a six pack, anyway.
So what were we doing?
What were we back to?
Do we have, do we have some?
Oh, yeah, we got a ton ofcomments.
Let's do that, let's get to the, let's get to these comments.
Oh, you are you starring justevery single.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
There's 52 comments.
No, I did a bunch before westarted, just because I asked
people in the chat to say wherethey were from.
So you don't have to do all ofthem, but you know.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
That's good, I'll do it.
Brisbane.
Thank you, cosmic Christy.
Brisbane, brisbane, lincoln,lincoln, california.
I didn't even know there was aLincoln California.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Me neither.
Dastardly Saboteur that's oneof my favorite names on YouTube,
by the way.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
There are some good ones on here.
Carol D from UK.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
She's a regular.
Thanks for being here, Carol.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Karen Radford from Indianapolis.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Thank you, karen.
We appreciate you coming inhere From.
Thank you, karen, we appreciateyou coming in here From a poet,
brian Lucas.
Hello from Central Arkansas,nice Howdy from Texas, wonder
Woman.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Boom.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
My personal favorite.
I was just going to say, claireis a big fan of Wonder Woman, I
personally am actually the newWonder Woman.
That gal, you know people geton my case for calling women gal
.
No, this girl's name is gal,that gal Wonder Woman.
She's amazing.
People don't get on my case forcalling women gal.
No, this girl's name is galthat gal wonder woman.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
People don't get on your case about that, honey.
It's the B word that they don'tlike oh broad.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Yeah, I don't say that.
I did figure out who I washanging out with.
It said broad all the time andwhen I accused him of kind of
getting me.
Exerting undue influence on youwhen I accused him of teaching
me that and kind of get me inthe hang of calling people broad
, he said I taught him that Iwas like no, no, no, anyway, we,

(52:05):
we, we have fun with that.
Um, vancouver, joe Schmoe fromSimcoe's.
Uh, hi from Vancouver org.
Hey, see, that's fun.
Laura says Claire, aw, I don'tknow what that was about, but
there you go.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Not sure either.
Hey, Laura, good to see youhere.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
I'm just doing every one that Claire did.
There might be some super chatsin here or not, I don't know,
she's her star.
So the way it works on the backend for us in the StreamYard
application or whicheverapplication we're using, is
we're able to star certaincomments, and those are the ones
that I have served up in frontof me to read, and Claire has

(52:43):
starred all of these, andusually the app automatically
stars the super chats, but Ihaven't seen any of those yet.
So we'll see um guys, but HeidiHooper glad.
Hey everybody.
It's Heidi from Atlanta.
Glad to see Mark is going to beon tonight.
We haven't seen him in a littlewhile, it seems.
This is true, heidi.
Thank you for welcoming me back.
I appreciate it.

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Hello from Virginia Bumblebee,tuna 477.
I meant Clearwater Canada,nancy Alley.
Wow, there's a ClearwaterCanada.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
No, that's a joke that sprung up where people are
like.
I'm from Clearwater Ohio.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Oh yeah, I'm from.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Clearwater, California.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
People have done that a lot on this.
That is a recurring theme.
Mark and Claire and Matt andAmy win the SPTV cutest couples
award.
Why, thank you?
Thank you very much.
I appreciate it.
Um, how many other couples arethere?
Are there more than us?

Speaker 2 (53:36):
That was a great question.
Those are the only two wewouldn't know, there's Mike and
Christy Mike.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Oh, that's true.
But Mike and Chris oh, you knowthey actually have been doing
some lives lately.
Yeah, they have.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
They absolutely go in that, in that bucket.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
But other than that.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
I don't think there's any other couples per se.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
So take that, mike and Christy.
Greetings from Dallas, texas,kaz.
Thank you, Kaz.
Clearwater, california.
I see, I get it, I get it.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Oh my gosh, here I have to put up this comment.
It's funny and plus it's holdon.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
It's apostate, alex, in the house.
I am.
I am a couple, I am in a couplewith myself and thus win couple
of the year award.
Okay, you say so, alex.
That sounds weird to me, butyou're in Scientology, goldie.
I think I'll grab some coffee.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Oh, I just hit that because I wanted you to give a
shout out to Goldie, becausewe've missed her so much.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
I know, goldie, I'm sorry I haven't been giving you
any work to do, but Claire'sbeen keeping you mighty busy, so
it's all good.
Oh, hello from Malmo, sweden.
I went to Malmo, sweden, pickedup a pair of speakers once.
Hello, madeline from Malmo,sweden.
Yes, malmo, I'm a big fan ofMalmo.
I was there for about eightminutes one time.

(54:57):
Before I get back on the trainwith the speakers, I went back
to Copenhagen.
Um, julia, hello Claire andMark.
Greetings from Nottingham,england.
I've got my headphones on andI'm going to fall asleep while
listening to you both.
It's so great having Mark back.
We've missed you.
Thank you, julia, I appreciateit.
And, um, yeah, we just had afriend visit from England for a

(55:18):
week or so and it was quite niceand he had such a good time.
Maisie Barnett, super chat.
Thank you, it's very generousof you, maisie.
Claire, please tell us what youuse on your hair.
You're so beautiful inside andout.
You're not chopped liver, mark,I am definitely chopped liver.
So, claire, tell us what youdid with your hair.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
I just did a little curling iron, just a little bit.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Make it.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
You know, have some form.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
I tell you, I tell you.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
I'm not good with patience.
I don't have the patience to dosome fancy blowout or nothing
like that.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Yeah Well, it doesn't take a lot to make Claire look
really, really good.
She can look just regular,really good just whenever, but a
little hair curling and poof.
Sptv Tattoo Warrior.
Thank you for the super chat.
Very generous Box is on its way, claire Happy face emoji.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Okay, then I must be behind on my email, I guess
hello maria.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
maria de jesus gets here as says mark long time, no
see, put up a poll.
Are you a sub?
Uh, we actually know and thisis really funny with our channel
.
We know there's a ton ofScientologists that watch our
channel like a lot.
We can see where you'rewatching from.
It breaks it down by the city,okay.

(56:45):
So we have the Clearwater andLos Angeles are the two biggest
cities.
So it's either because there'sa lot of Scientology activity in
those places or there's a lotof Scientologists in those
places, or both.
But regardless, theScientologists are afraid to
subscribe because they thinkScientology sees who they're
subscribing to and then they'regoing to get busted.

(57:06):
So, scientologists, if you'regoing to watch our channel and
you're going to find out all thejuicy stuff that's happening in
Scientology, set up a fakeYouTube account or a second
YouTube account calledBillyBob123 or whatever, and
subscribe.
Okay, you're messing up thealgorithm.
You're getting it in yourcontent anyway because you

(57:28):
watched.
So you've got to subscribe aswell, because that helps the
algorithm.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Yeah.
Pearl Snappy in the chat saidtoday is the day Scientology
learns about VPNs.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Yeah, exactly, scientologist.
Nordvpn, okay.
Atlas VPN, any of the popularYouTube sponsored VPNs.
Get over there and get one.
Log into that.
Log in from Germany and watchthe videos.
Okay, there you go, or Toronto,or wherever you want to be.
If you're in Germany, don't login from Germany and watch the
videos.
Okay, or Toronto, or whereveryou want to be.
If you're in Germany, don't login from Germany.

(58:01):
If you're a Scientologist, login from Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Or you know what would be really funny they
should sign in from Gilman HotSprings, California.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
You can't really do it like that.
I think it's like no in the US.
I think it's like Denver, westCoast or East Coast.
It depends on it also US, Ithink it's like Denver, west
Coast or East Coast.
It also does depend on whichVPN you're using.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Okay, that would be pretty funny, though, yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
But anyway, you can log in from different countries.
I don't think you can be sospecific.
I'll have to research that.
But if you have a VPN company,make it from the city.
You'll get a lot moreScientologists because they want
to be very specifically, notfrom where they're from.
Yep, lori Plays oh my God, thesuper couple of SPTV back

(58:45):
together again.
You guys are the best We'vebeen together.
We just haven't been doingvideos, that's all We've been
here and I have been doing.
I really have been working andI'm out of town a lot.
So, susan B, so happy to see myfavorite couple.
Thank you, susan B, appreciatethat Very generous of you.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Thank you, john.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Satowski, ending Scientology one Mr Bill at a
time.
Thank you for the super chat,john Satowski Good to see you
here.
Yeah, oh, I showed that one.
Susan B, thank you very muchfor that.
John Satowski, oh, gary,jackson Moorhead.
Hey you two.

(59:21):
Hey, jackson.
Um, yeah, has jackson beendoing videos on his channel?

Speaker 2 (59:22):
I've not been keeping up with every single channel
while I've been in my travels Isaw a comment from goldie that
would lead me to believe hehasn't put up new content lately
.
So come on, jackson.
Yeah, well maybe we'llones.
Maybe we'll do a collaborationwith him and help him wipe the
rust off.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Jackson.
He works really hard, he does.
I know I'm calling him LazyBones because he's not doing any
videos in his free time.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
He's not, though, like us, he has a full-time job,
and then he's also, like us,been doing crazy work behind the
scenes that we, when we're nottalking about, and so, yeah,
this is like um, something elsethat we need to get.
Get help him, help him alongwith We'll.
We'll do that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Yeah, it's all good too, I do.
Who am I to talk?
I haven't done a video in likein a month, um, but yes, um, oh,
and Burrow says she's got aquestion Um, do you list video?
You list video videos frominterviews you do on other
channels?
Youtube page Claire's interviewwith Shalice was great, made me
cry.
Yeah, I think we can make those.

(01:00:25):
We can make those part of aplaylist on the channel.
We should.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
I've done with.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Jeff, or I did with um, just any other channels with
, uh, even Chris Shelton I didvideos with um.
Tony Ortega, whoever, Um, sowe'll put those on the playlist.
On our chat We'll make a um,there'll be a playlist on there.

(01:00:48):
You'll get, you'll tell if it's, if it's a bunch of videos that
aren't on our channel, thenthat's the playlist.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
We'll make a cracker liquor playlist and a Claire
bear playlist.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
There you go.
I did a um, I did a video withPatrick bet David, uh, from
value attainment on his channel.
I think that's on our playlistbut that's actually one of the
channels that sort of kind ofconvinced me to do a YouTube
channel.
Was the video?
Was, um, a video that I watchedon Patrick bet David's channel.
So, and then, just becausepeople kept writing to me saying

(01:01:20):
, do it a YouTube channel, I waslike, eh, I might as well.
Dom's mom, seven 25 again.
Claire, saw your two partinterview with Shalice and you
were amazing.
I so admire your strength.
You've turned a painful a paininto a fight to help others
escape, avoid the same pain, apain into a fight to help others
escape, avoid the same pain.
So much respect.
Yeah, that's the other thing.
That's the other reason, um, wedo do a lot of videos, um, on

(01:01:41):
our channel, and the reason westarted doing videos on other
people's channels is because, um, we're trying to get the word
out.
So you guys have heard a lot ofthese stories that we're
telling and um, so it's fun tojust go on another channel where
they've got a whole nother setof people that some of them
might be crossover, like theShalice.
There's a lot of people thatsubscribe to Shalice, that also

(01:02:02):
subscribe to our channel, butthere might be other people over
there that haven't seen some ofour content, and the same thing
with just other channels.
So we've been doing that withother channels and we're not
going on a lot of the other SPTVchannels, because there's tons
of people that would love totell their stories, that would

(01:02:23):
love to go on those other SPTVchannels and we don't need to
hog up those guys' channels withour stuff.
So it's sort of like just a wayto spread the word to people
that might not be getting thiscontent.
So, yeah, so that's sort of ourjust a way to spread the word
on to to people that might notbe getting this content.
So, so, yeah, so that's why we,that's sort of our, that's our
idea of how we're doing it, andso, and they, they like.

(01:02:45):
A perfect example is JennaMiscavige's channel.
Okay, we haven't been on herchannel and she's got 7,000 or
8,200 subscribers or whatever,from just people telling that
she has a channel.
She's already got 7,000subscribers.
So I'm pretty sure theMiscavige name's not hurting her
too bad either.

(01:03:07):
But, either way, we cannot waituntil she does some videos and
we will definitely be on herchannel if she wants us to
Welcome back.
Mark, so glad to have you back.
Thank you, lisa March Banks.
Dragonfish, handmade Goods,goods.
Um betsy, a creature says soexcited for more spy files.
Yes, we are gonna do more spyfiles.
If I have to just break downand break out of my cage and

(01:03:29):
come down here in the middle ofthe night while, while while my
wife is sleeping to do a video.
Hey, hair Bentley, can you geta bark to autograph cracker?
Yeah, no, that cracker thingwent horribly wrong.
I'm sorry for all the peoplewho really wanted me to eat a
bunch of crackers and do funnycracker videos.

(01:03:50):
That cracker, that wholecracker episode was just a
horrible debacle.
I cannot eat crackers.
I'm just my body does not wantto have.
A cracker episode was just ahorrible debacle.
I cannot eat crackers, I'm justmy body does not.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
That trailer that Kelly Copter helped us put
together was kind of like thepinnacle of Mark's career with
crackers and that it's beenentirely downhill since then.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
I literally got sick from eating the crackers in that
video that I did for Kelly.
That's what turned me upsidedown and it was like, yeah,
you're not supposed to eat those.
Mixed.
Snot face.
Snot face, that is aninteresting name, see.
If you're going toScientologist, if you're going

(01:04:33):
to set up a channel, call itSnot Face.
Just that could be yourusername on YouTube and all the
OSIS spies will look the otherway.
Miss seeing both of your facestogether.
Thank you, snot Face.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
Kay Thompson says love you guys.
I'm a never inner, but had alife-changing experience that

(01:04:54):
crippled not literally me for along time.
You've helped me categorize andaccept what happened.
Your words help so many hugsand kisses.
Well, thank you, kay.
You know I was.
It was really funny that I wasthe channel that I was on doing
a video.
Right before this we had talkedabout that, one thing that a

(01:05:15):
lot of there's we've seen.
I've seen a bunch of commentslike how can you, how can you be
joking and how can you talklightly about this?
You know?
Kind of horrible thing andwe've talked about it so much
for so long that we've acceptedwhat happened.
It is what it is and we were inthe wrong place at the wrong

(01:05:39):
time and we were born into thewrong family or whatever that we
ended up in the Scientology.
But we're here now and we gothere by going through that and I
sort of kind of love what I getto do and how I get to do it
and my kids and my wife and myfriends and my neighbors and I
sort of love my life now.

(01:05:59):
So if I have to go through allthat to get to here, then it is
what it is.
And, yeah, it is what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
And my take on that is hey, we can either laugh or
we can cry.
You know, we can focus onwhat's ahead or we can regret
what lay behind, and there seemsto me power forward.
What you do today is whatcounts.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Yeah, exactly, well said.
Bella Lata said you two remindme of George Burns and Gracie
Allen.
Thank you, that's very generousof you.
Bella Lata, and you might bedating yourselves on the George
Burns and the Gracie Allen,because that's a while back
there.
I mean, it definitely went overClaire's head.
I know exactly who those peopleare and I watched a lot of TV

(01:06:44):
as a small child.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Just being honest, I own my media ignorance.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Snuff Face.
Oh, snuff Face is back again.
I miss your attitude, mark.
Well, thank you.
I think I have the same kind ofattitude as Claire Gary Jackson
Moorhead says.
Hey, marky, mark, your lightingis running a little hot,
kicking a couple scrims, youknow, I know it is, and I had to

(01:07:14):
set this camera up for somebodyelse and I didn't really have
any way to tweak the lighting oranything, so I'm just going
with it for now.
I will have my normal cameraand normal lighting backup on
the next video, I promise.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
We will be back to our regular programming shortly.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
Thanks for bringing it up, jackson.
I appreciate that, I really do.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
He really does.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Kat Maddiets.
Non-scientologist, supportsSPTV and the Foundation.
Thank you, katdiets.
Non-scientologist supports SPTVand the foundation.
Thank you, kat.
I appreciate that.
It's very generous of you.
I really want to rep theAftermath Foundation.
Can we get some?

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
T-shirts.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Oh, that's true, Didn't we do that?
I think we have something.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
We have some at the SP shop, but we'll add some more
, because somebody sent medesigns recently that were
pretty awesome.
So, and actually I sent some ofthe shirts to Serge and he was
thrilled.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Awesome.
Yeah, we do get people send ustheir own kind of homemade merch
all the time.
Some of it's really amazing itis.
And I mean I just kind of wearthese button down shirts.
That's really the only thing Iwear.
I'm not wearing this specialfor this video.
I just get off work and sitdown and wear what I'm wearing.
But we'll see if I can wearsome merch for one of the videos

(01:08:29):
.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
I'm going to wear my Zeno is my homeboy shirt for our
40K party.
Zinu is my homeboy shirt forour 40k party oh, do I have one
of those.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
I think so see guys, chump change express over here
she's got one she's got one.
Do I have one?
We'll have to check you askedfor a mug and I got you a mug
we'll have to go down to thedungeon and see if there's any
merch for me down there next tomy cot.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
I definitely got you already.
Oh, my God, enough with this,it's too much already, oh my
gosh, look at this, hold on, Igot to put this up real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
Ready, hold on.
Oh yeah, newman in the house.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
Oh, my goodness, eric , don't show that.
Okay, um, not a sheeple.
Love you, claire.
Welcome home, mark.
So nice to see you backtogether.
Thank you, um, that's verygenerous Thank you of you.
Um, thank you for that, peterAnderson, blown for good um.
Anniversary date to 11, 2008.
There you go.
So, even before I had a book, Ihad a YouTube channel.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
That's crazy February 11, 2008.

Speaker 1 (01:09:41):
Yeah, I think I made some videos at the time.
If you want to go back inhistory, we'll have a little
blown for good history lessonhere.
I think at the time I wasputting up some videos of these
hate websites that they wereputting up and I didn't really
have a place to put them, so Ijust started a YouTube channel
and put them there, and that'swhere I, if I had any videos, I
wanted somebody to see, that'swhere I'd put them, and I did

(01:10:03):
have some of these really weirdbehind the scenes videos of Tom
Cruise and David Miscavigebackstage at one of his birthday
parties and I put some videosof that up and that's all that
was really sitting up theresince 2008.
Veronica, I just I starred thisone myself Just because she

(01:10:26):
said Veronica Bombria says hello, cats and kittens.
Isn't that what that?
Isn't that?
Come on comments.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
You know the what's her name?

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
The cat lady.
Uh, yeah, come on comments.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
You know the what's her name, the cat lady.
Yeah, come on now, tiger.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
Carol Baskin.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Yeah, there you go, carol Baskin.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
Carol Baskin, that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
Cats and kittens.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
Oh my God, hello all you cats and kittens.
Is that what she used to say,cats and kittens?

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Nobody's confirmed it yet, but
hello, all you cats and kittens.

Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
Oh, creepy Goldie's got this in the comments.
I'll just put it here in case Idon't really think you can
click on it, but it's in thecomments so you can look for it.
Get Gail's book here on Amazon.
This is Liz Gail's book, so Iguess if you want to see where
to get Liz Gale's books, we canalso put it in the description.
Just make a note to remember toput it in the description after

(01:11:20):
we're done with it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Yeah, I already ordered a copy.
I'm going to see if I can do athing with her, like with Liz,
like I did with CatherineSpolino.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
Perfect, abigail.
Thank you, that's very generousof you.
Hi, I mentioned this on Claireand Amy's Wednesday live stream
and it didn't work for them, butmaybe it'll work for you too.
When Aaron does some gestures,they have side effects.
Peace sign equals balloons.
Two thumbs up equals fireworks.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Yeah, so I saw.
So I think that it might be.
You have to have single screen,like a single person on screen.
But I I heard someone talkingabout it.
I don't think it works when wehave two cameras.
I'm not sure You'll have to tryit out next time.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
I have no idea what any of this means.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
I'm sorry guys, it's like those finger movements that
you make and it pulls balloonsacross the screen and other
things like that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
Oh, if I do this, it does it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
I don't know, or it might just be that, oh, if I do
this it does it, or if you typeit, it does it, or it might just
be that, oh, there it is Wow,look at that, let me try.
Hold on.
What did you do?

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
I did thumbs up, two thumbs up.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
That's two fingers, not two thumbs.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
Well, two fingers up.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
How come?
Yeah, I see it.
Hold on, let.
Let me try on the other side.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Well, there you go.
Whatever I did it, I did it.
Headlies large truck, headlies.
Thank you for that super chat,headlies.
It's your favorite heavy goodsvehicle here Large truck.
One thing I've always wonderedcan someone subpoena a private
investigator working for OSA?
I don't know, I'm not a lawyer,I'm really horrible at those
questions but I do know that Idon't know.

(01:12:59):
You know, I know one of the.
The thing that I do know isScientology always use this,
uses the private investigatorexcuse that they're doing an
investigation, like for alawsuit.
So what they'll do is they'lldrop a complaint.
Just a phony document, just acomplaint.
A lawyer will draw it up, anin-house Scientology lawyer.

(01:13:26):
They'll drop a complaint andthen they'll hire the private
investigators.
They're not going to ever doanything with the complaint,
there's never going to be alawsuit, but they have all their
ducks in a row.
So if somebody asks and say,yeah, we were going to sue this
person and that's why we had acomplaint drawn up and we hired
a private investigator, and sothey cover all their bases, but
it's super creepy that they'respying on people that used to
work there.

(01:13:46):
So it's like okay, I get it,you've covered all your bases,
but you're still creepy cult forhunting down your ex-members.
So you know, it's just likeokay, diana B, thank you for the
super chat.
Wouldn't believe the stories ifwe didn't hear from you guys
directly via YouTube.
Yeah, you know that's.
Another thing is thank you forthat, diana B.

(01:14:07):
When we do these shows like wedid that, we spent, let's say, a
day, a full, entire day.
We spent shooting that 60Minutes Australia TV show.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:14:21):
They came to our house.
There were camera people andaudio people and we we shot in
the house and we set up and weset up lights and we set up
cameras and we went out here andwe did this and we were on the
front porch.
Did you see us sneaking thatSPTV merch on the on the show
guys?
Oh yeah, um, we sit on theporch.
They do photos.

(01:14:42):
We went to another location todo the interview with um, the,
the, the interviewer in the show, and um, all these things
happened.
We spent an entire day.
That was a 60.
I don't even know how long itwas.
It wasn't even 60 minutes.
Really.
It's an hour program, right?
I guess that's what the formatis about an hour.

(01:15:04):
Let's say we spent 15 minutes ofus.
They used in that maybe maybe amaximum, maybe 10 minutes Yep,
10 minutes of footage.
We made it into that show.
We shot for an entire day.
We said and told all kinds ofstories and they even did
another video Like they releaseda special video on YouTube

(01:15:26):
which was like an outtake aconversation we had because we
talked about Tom Cruise.
If you talk about Tom Cruiseand it doesn't make it into the
show, they're going to make itsown video just because it was
Tom Cruise.
I think it was about me fallingasleep while he was doing the
counseling on me yeah, there yougo, something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
Yeah, but at least the stairs made it in my
inclined stairs.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
Oh, that's right, they went to the incline.
We have a little thing whereClaire runs up 200 steps six
times every morning.
Okay, when I steps six timesevery morning, um, okay, when
I'm in the cage sleeping up anddown those stairs before I even
get out of the cage anyway.
But um she, um, they went withher to the incline and they shot
that.
They had a cameraman poorcameraman, an audio guy had to

(01:16:10):
hike up the top of a mountain sothey could shoot claire getting
to the top of the mountain, um,but so 10 minutes made into
that thing and then they usedanother five or 10 minutes or
whatever for some other sillyTom Cruise video thing outtake.
But, um, so when we do theseYouTube videos and we go and
we're on here for an hour, um,and we can just tell you what,
what happened, exactly, how ithappened, and then maybe Claire

(01:16:33):
was in, you know, has it from adifferent, uh, viewpoint or
different angle, the sameincident or a different incident
that happened with her.
We're just telling you whathappened.
When we do these TV shows, whenwe say things that are like
there's no way that that shouldbe happening, they can't show
that sometimes on TV we'retelling them things and we're

(01:16:53):
saying things and they're like,oh no, we we can't show that
because we don't have a video ofthat happening or we didn't
have.
But I mean, we were both there,we know what happened, we
remember Um.
So so when we do these shows,there's a day worth of footage
being shot and it made 10minutes, made it into that show.

(01:17:14):
So when we're on here with youguys for an hour, you're getting
the whole hour uncut, unedited,straight from the source
Straight from the source exactly, In all our glorious mistakes
and everything else.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
Yeah, my hot lighting Jackson.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
Yeah, that's what you get.
You get what you get, you don'tthrow a fit and yeah, that's
what you get, you get what youget, you don't throw a fit.
Sebastian Elder says I think youshould declare that you are
both class eights on the bridgeto total cracker licking.
Oh no, I'm like S, sebastian.
Thank you for that.
It's very generous.
No, we're like OT.
If there's like an OT 15 inScientology, that's as high as

(01:17:54):
you can get in Scientology.
We're already at SP level 15right now.
Like if I don't do anothervideo ever again and don't we
don't sell another book, I'malready at SP level 15 and I
will release the SP levels atsome point.
I'll write those up and releasethose.
We'll probably do a video thatthe SP levels.
We got to do that and we'llexplain what the SP levels are.

(01:18:15):
But if you want to be asuppressive person, all you have
to do is say one bad thingabout Scientology on YouTube and
you can be an SP tomorrow.
That's SP level one.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
That's entry.
By the way, you reminded me ofmy favorite Jenna Miscavige
story, which is that she wastold when she was leaving.
She was like well, I don'tagree with the people you've
made suppressive people.
And they said you know what?
You can talk to anysuppressives you want.
You just can't talk to Mark andClaire.

(01:18:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
And you know what's really funny I have the.
This was she told us that thishappened at the time.
She told us you know, they toldme I could even talk to other
SPs, but I could not talk to youtwo.
And I thought, oh, that's funny.
I have the SP file that OSAwrote where they told her that

(01:19:10):
they wrote in there what theytold her.
It's in the files that day whenthey told her that and met with
her.
It's in there.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
So I can corroborate they did actually.
Osa did really tell her that by, because OSA wrote it up
themselves that they told herthat.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
And actually the only reason I know that is because
Jenna I recently sent Jenna herSP files.
So she um has, she might have,she might be one of the ex-SEO
members that has the most filesand the most detailed files

(01:19:47):
because she was trying to leavethe SEA organization for months
and months and months and theywere documenting every single
little thing they did with herand the reports were getting
sent to David Miscavige.
So she's Jenna Miscavige.
So if a Miscavige wants toleave the Sea Org, yeah you bet

(01:20:10):
your bippy that Dave Miscavigeis going to be being briefed on
it.
So these documents were beingprepared and reports were being
sent up on her on a regularbasis and they went to great
lengths to Jack with her scenewhen she was trying to leave and
try to get her to divorce herhusband at the time and trying

(01:20:31):
to get him to divorce her andtry to get him to stay and
telling I mean they did the same, they did the same thing with
all couples, but they tell the,they're telling them different
things, but they they'reseparating them so they can't be
together.
The couple like she's beingmade to stay in one location and
he's being made to stay inanother location and then
they're talking smack about themto each other saying, oh well,

(01:20:54):
he said this and oh, she saidthis.
And he said if you leave, thenhe's going to have to divorce
you.
And he said if she leaves she'sgoing to.
And so then?
But they both want to leave andthey both want to stay together
and so they're trying to splitthem up in these documents.
It's the craziest thing anyway,but OSA smells like poo, as

(01:21:15):
Denverver steve says.
Um question do you think osagiggle inside at the funny parts
on here?
Are they in offices near dm?
No, david miscavige, heactually openly um talks smack
about the osa guys at the endbase.
He talks trash about the osapeople all the time, how they're
incompetent.

(01:21:36):
Basically anything that happensthat's bad about Scientology.
That's OSA's fault that theydidn't already jack up these
people's lives enough thatthey're even able to talk on
YouTube.
David Miscavige everything ifhe beats somebody up.
If David Miscavige beatssomebody up, and then that

(01:21:56):
person 10 years later is onYouTube saying David Miscavige
beat me up, that's OSA's fault.
Osa did not handle that SP.
Osa is the reason that thatperson is able to do that.
So anything that's happeningbad in Scientology, that's all
OSA it's the C C org in generalare incompetent.

(01:22:17):
And whoever worked with thatperson, whoever audited that
person which I take greatpleasure in the fact that if
you're in Scientology and you'rean auditor and you're odd and
the person that you'recounseling, if that person turns
into a suppressive, then youare essentially the worst

(01:22:37):
auditor in the world and theplanet.
And if a person who was thatguy?
There was a guy at the base whoaudited Larry Wallersheim.
I think it's Fred Hare.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
I want to say it's Fred Hare.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
Fred Hare was a Sea Ororse executive who audited.
He was a counselor at one pointor some sort of Scientology
executive or or or counselor andhe ended up auditing somebody
who then sued Scientology and isa major suppressive person and
that guy was given a crap aboutthat.
I mean, I heard him give him.
I can't remember if it was Fredhair, but I think it was.

(01:23:17):
Is Fred hair the guy that wasin the events unit there?

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
was two guys Fred Harris, yeah, but then there was
another guy, was it Fred Fred?
Hair was already gone, I think,by the time I got to the
property, so I don't.
I'm not too familiar with his.

Speaker 1 (01:23:33):
Mike would remember, but there was some guy that
knows too.
Oh yeah, that's true, but thereare people that audited people
that then turned into SPs, andDavid Miscavige would make fun
of those people and deride themon a continual basis that they
were the one that created thatSP.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
Oh, yeah, totally.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
As some of you may or may not know, the person who
audited be more than any otherperson in Scientology was Tom
Cruise.
So the fact that they thinkthey've got a hate website up
about me and they did all theseother things, um, and they think
they say I'm those big, bad, uh, suppressive person, guess what
Somebody made me and I think itwas, I think I was, it was a.

(01:24:13):
It was a mix.
It was a mix between Tom Cruiseand David Miscavige.
So if you got somebody to lookto Scientology, those are David
Miscavige was my boss and TomCruise was my auditor.
Figure it out on your end.
Okay, I don't know, play theblame game all you want.
Sea Org Tech Discussions Wow,that's an awesome handle.

(01:24:34):
By the way, claire Anne XRathbun never liked me and would
do her best to invalidate mewhen she could Invalidate.
I don't.
Is that a Scientology word?
That's just a regular word,right.

Speaker 2 (01:24:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
And Scientology.
Invalidate is basically whenyou pick on somebody in
Scientology, when you poke funor call out their shortcomings.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
Yeah, that's invalidated.
You intentionally cut them downand make less of them.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
Karma is a biatch and she now has a very nice job to
carry.
Well, I mean, I don't know, I'mnot, I don't.
She has a horrible job.
She has to watch ShelleyMiscavige full time.
Um, and that's not a good jobright now because everyone's
looking for her.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
Yeah, Somebody was asking me the other day do you
think Shelley knows that theentire world is wondering where
the heck she's at and why shehasn't been seen publicly?
Like I kind of doubt thatShelly knows that actually, but
yeah, anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
I really doubt it.
I don't think they would wanther to know that in a million
years.
Nope nope.
I think she must thinksomething weird is happening.
Well, no, because really, Imean if an attorney went and met
with her, I mean if theyactually did get somebody to
meet with her, like if a policeofficer I'm not sure, because

(01:25:56):
there's been so many differentstories on how this has happened
yeah, and we don't really ever.
It's always through a lawyer,like a Scientology lawyer, that
law enforcement really meetswith her.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
But I mean that's got to have also kind of tipped her
off that something is happening.
If there's been some sort oflike, hey, you need to do a
statement or something, Right,Then she would get, like she
might even get a clue Like Hmm,why would I do that?
Like that would, if there, if,if that actually did happen
Right, when someone like anattorney said, hey, we just need

(01:26:32):
to sit down and make a, anaffidavit or something, Um then,
but they haven't releasedanything like that.
So they.

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
They've only released statements from her attorney,
which is obviously a bunch ofnonsense.
The thing I learned recently inthe course of the Where's
Shelly series that was reallydisturbing to me is to learn
that when she was imprisoned atCST she was not allowed to take
her beagles with her.
And that might sound like anothing to most people, but her

(01:27:08):
beagles you know her fivebeagles that she had.
They're like her kids.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
Yeah, she was banished without them yeah well,
play stupid games, win stupidprizes.
You can't get your dogs okayyou're the wife of a cult leader
.
It's gonna be some.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
It's gonna be some thorns on that road along the
way somewhere I know, but foranyone who's a dog lover, you
feel the burn of that.
I get that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
She's a she's in a cult.
I know, I know she's a prisonerin her, in her own cult, and
whether she knows it or not, no,she knows without.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
That's the thing to me when they shipped her off
without her dogs, that's thestrong.
That's where she would know.
I am a prisoner, I have no sayhere, I have no choices.
That that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
That would communicate that to her
unquestionably I'm pretty surewhen she went to that, when she
went to barney's funeral, shewas already like that's it, I'm
done yeah, no, I know so okay,stephanie says claire, I want to
say for putting out suchamazing interviews the past two

(01:28:16):
weeks.
I was unexpectedly hospitalizedfor 11 days.
Your videos really helped passthe time in a really awful
situation.
Well, that wow.

Speaker 2 (01:28:25):
Wow, Stephanie.
Well, get better.
Thanks for watching.
I'm glad we could providesomething to help get better.

Speaker 1 (01:28:34):
Yeah, hospital's not a fun place.
John Satowski, captain, littleBoss Baby Davey, dirty Poopy
Pants.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
I think that is in relation.

Speaker 1 (01:28:43):
You know what?
We should write that down.
Somebody screenshot this,that's it.
That might be the name rightthere, and if you want to call
him something else, you can callhim something else.
But Captain Little Boss BabyDavey Dirty Poopy Pants I think
any variation of that would befine with me as well, in case
there's a way to kind of tidythat up a little bit.
But Captain Little Boss Baby,davey Dirty Poopy Pants Sounds

(01:29:03):
pretty good.
Just wait till you see thisthing, guys.
I might've shown it like alittle sneak preview.
Have I shown it at all in avideo?

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
I think we did.
Yeah, we showed it.
When we get away.

Speaker 1 (01:29:16):
And, by the way, if you have an SPTV channel and you
want one of these Captain,little Boss, baby Davey, dirty
Poopy Pants, then get a hold ofClaire and get her your address
and when we get them, we'regoing to send them to all the
sptv channels.
Um, because they're, they're,you know, they're getting the
word out.
They'll make for great giveaways, yeah and maybe, yeah, maybe,

(01:29:39):
we'll send them.
We'll.
We'll definitely do them asgiveaways here, but we're gonna
send them to all the differentchannels.
So they know, um, the aftermathis alive and well and we are
doing the job and, um, we'restill you.
You know, we did thatfundraiser for Surge.
We still are getting donationsand we've got a lot of donations
in from the mail, the YouTubefundraiser that we did, and so

(01:30:04):
all those things are still goingand and it's great, I named him
Troll in the Hole I will buyone, andrew Humphrey.
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:12):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:30:12):
Yeah, I mean Apple box elf.
Anata on fire on Hata on firesays Apple box elf.
That's a good one too.
I like all of them.
Look at Sheila.
Sheila did a super chat.
Pick me, please, pick me, pickme, pick me.
Sheila, thank you for doing asuper chat, but that is just a
free pick me, you don't.

(01:30:34):
You don't have to pay for pickme's, we just pick whatever one
we pick.
I'm sorry that you did a superchat for that, but thank you
very much for the super chat.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
Yeah, my only revision on troll in the hole it
has to be troll of the hole,because he's not in the hole.
He puts people in the hole,it's.
It's a minor.
Yeah, that's hole, it's a minor.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
It's a matter of preposition, but it's an
important distinction.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
Yeah, stacey Y.
Thank you, stacey.
Stacey is a very frequent flyer.
I've missed seeing you both,but fortunately have many other
channels to keep watching.
Give you all the time, morebehind the scenes stuff.
Yeah, see, that's the othergreat thing about having other

(01:31:20):
people to start up channels isthat if you, uh, don't see me
here for a little while, thereis a ton of other people
cranking out videos and um, andI like I watch, I tune into
these other channels.
I don't always jump in thecomments, but, um, if I'm there
and they're doing the video andI and I'm not doing something
else, then I'll I'll chime in.
Oh, I cannot wait.
I've been waiting and waitingand waiting for somebody to
comment.
Pat Shields, thank you.

(01:31:40):
You're so generous, mark, nicethat you are back.
Hey, from where?
Where is she coming from,claire?
Where's?

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
she coming, where's she when?

Speaker 1 (01:31:49):
is she?

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
Where is Pat?
You're being mean honey, Stopit.
Where's?

Speaker 1 (01:31:53):
Pat.
Where's Pat writing from today?
I was watching.
I don't even remember where Iwas.
I was in some far-flung part ofthe world watching a video.

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
You were in Boston, I was in okay, I was in Boston.
Thanks.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
Claire, that was me not saying where I was, and that
was Claire saying, saying whereI was, and that was Claire
saying exactly where I was.
Anyway, I'm watching a video.
I can't remember I was doingsomething else, I was answering
some emails or whatever, and shesaid Sash Ketchuan and I went.

Speaker 2 (01:32:23):
No, I didn't, I went Sash.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
Ketchuan.
No, sash Ketchuan, sashKetchuan, I know what I said and
I was like Saskatchewan.
I was like I know we didn't goto school, I got that, that's it
, that's I get that, butSaskatchewan, saskatchewan.
I was like it's Saskatchewan.
Everyone knows that that's nota weird thing.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
Saskatchewan.
I could argue that there's manythings that are said in many
different ways all over theworld.
So I've said things one way for13 years of my life in England
and now I say them a differentway.

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
But no one was saying Saskatchewan.
No one was saying Saskatchewan.

Speaker 2 (01:33:06):
I didn't say that, I said Saskatchewan.

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
Saskatchewan.
Oh my God, the best part isthat Amy just let it roll.
Amy just let it roll.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
No, she didn't.
Her eyes kind of widened alittle bit.
No, no, no, and I was like ohboy.

Speaker 1 (01:33:19):
But she didn't say, she didn't just say, like, if
you say it, I'm going to saythat's not how you say that.
No, no, you guys just kept goingand then she kind of she made a
little face, but I was in thecomments right then I was like,
oh my god, please somebody tellher that she has no idea how to
say that word.
Anyway, thank you for that.

(01:33:39):
I appreciate that comment.
I was, and I told claire too.
I said the next time I do avideo we're talking about
saskatchewan, that's happening,um, and then I totally forgot
about it.
So thank you for bringing thatcomment.
Uh, that was the super chat ofthe night.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
Thank you so, so much .
I so appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:57):
Clearwater Chad.
Hi from Clearwater Buffalo.
Thank you, clearwater Chad.
You're too kind, abita, whenare the wedding pics going to be
aired?
I've been asking the samequestion.
I've asked three differentoccasions.
When these wedding pics aregoing to get aired and I've got
a video to convert, I'm going todo my part and then, once
that's done, it's all over tothe ginger here.

Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
That's all we're waiting for honey.
Oh see now.

Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
Conversion.
Yes, denver Stevo, speak of thedevil.
Hey, mark, welcome back to thereal world.
Greetings from northeastern,westerly pooh, broad, colorado.
Yes, thank you for that, denverSteve-O, I have.
I have been watching in thepast few weeks.
I have been kind of tuning intodifferent channels and I was

(01:34:42):
watching.
I was watching lives thatDenver Steve-O was doing and he
and it was him MarilynClearwater, chad Um, there's
been different other people atdifferent times.
Um, but um, I definitely was um, having fun watching some of
these other SPD TV channels andsome of their other videos and

(01:35:06):
um, and every once in a while Iwould comment and um, but for
most of the time I just lurk inthere and I kind of just see
what they're see, what they'reup to.
I just unstarred purple net, ifyou can find that one, I had I
don't know where it was, I don'teven remember it was before 6 0
, 7 PM, it's purple, a superchat or a regular purple net, is
the username Catherine Olson.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
Love you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
AppleNet is the username Catherine Olson.
Love you guys, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:35:31):
Catherine.

Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
Yay, catherine, good to see you here.
Sarita Fisher, thank you forthe super sticker, appreciate it
.
Lathanda Grocklinger says Hifrom Germany.
Once again, love to see youtogether.
Yes, thank you, lathanda.
We appreciate the super chat.
Julie Blutstein Been a fan foryears, since the book came out.

(01:35:52):
Thank you, julie.
I appreciate it.
Ola Ola Stras.
Oh, that's, I'm just you know.

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
Strasalkowska.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
Saskatchewan I can do , but I don't know about this
one, strasalkowska.

Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
That's my take on that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:09):
Okay, Ola.
I say Ola works pretty good tome.
Thank you for all you do makingthe world a better place.
Well, I hope so.
I don't know, I mean, if we getanything done with our friends
over there that we used to workfor.
I'm going to say more aboutthis publicly, but in the
meantime we'll give you a thankyou for the birthday fundraiser.

(01:36:31):
I was utterly stunned andflattered.

Speaker 2 (01:36:34):
Wow.
It was Goldie's birthday we dida Pete Jensen who is a pillar
of SPTV.
He did a GoFundMe and then wesent her a present separate or a
nice thing separate to that tooNice.

Speaker 1 (01:36:50):
Well, that's really nice.
You know, Pete, I think Pete isthe one who did the very first
MTV intro, SPTV intro that Ireally loved.
Yes that's right, the Money forNothing.
Kimberly Stovall says dying formore spy files.
Yeah, we're going to do the spyfiles for sure.
We're going to keep going onthat.
I just been.

(01:37:11):
Really I just when I found allthose other documents that
weren't about us and I was justlike these need to get out to
people, I can't just keep themfor myself.
So I spent many, many weeks andmany days and hours trying to
distribute those.
So, thank you, kimberly, we'lldefinitely get those.

(01:37:31):
Tamara says super sticker.
Oh, thank you, tamara.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
Thank you, I marked that purple net, one that you
wanted, by the way.

Speaker 1 (01:37:38):
Perfect.
Thank you, billy Bob.
One, two, three, see, that'sall you had to do.

Speaker 2 (01:37:43):
That's all you had to do.
Billy Bob.
One, two, three.
I think I know who this is, bythe way.

Speaker 1 (01:37:47):
No, I just said it earlier in the video I said if
you're a Scientologist and youwant to get on here, just make a
username BillyBob123 andBillyBob123 shows up, so you're
welcome.
Happy anniversary.
Yes, thank you.
We did recently celebrate 31years.
Actually, is this last week,this week.

Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
We're celebrating on Saturday night because Mark was
out of town, so yay, yay, that'sa tomorrow super sticker.

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
I showed you that one , thank you, and then I showed
that other one, blackmail.
Oh so can I sell the blackmailname?
Everyone gets weird reading thename.
It's okay Blackmail.
I mean there was somebody onhere called snot face earlier.

Speaker 2 (01:38:29):
I mean it's you know it's a free world.
Unless you're in Scientology,it's not a lot of judging going
on in the comments from our end.

Speaker 1 (01:38:37):
I mean, if you want to call yourself snot face,
that's better than uhScientologist 787.
Um, rosemary, thank you.
Based on Leah's lawsuit, do youthink the COS will stop
producing hate websites andother harassing towards her?
You know, it's really.
That's a really good question,rosemary.
I don't know, because it's aweird.

(01:39:02):
They've got themselves in aweird situation right now.
They're obviously doing whatthey're doing and it's all been
documented.
So if she sues them and theystop, then that makes them look
like a little bitch.

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
I was wondering what was coming there.
I was like wait for it wait forit.

Speaker 1 (01:39:28):
There's no other way to say it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
It's one of those damned if you do, damned if you
don't.
If they take it down, then theyadmit that it was a bunch of
nonsense, which we all know itis.
So it's going to set aprecedent, which only time will
tell what happens.
But that's a great question.

Speaker 1 (01:39:46):
It is a great question and we shall see, but I
don't think they have.
And we shall see, but I don'tthink they have.
I think they're still attackingher on X and they're still
putting horrible posts up onFacebook or the Internet or
wherever they put that stuff.
I don't I'm not really aconsumer of that nonsense.
So every once in a while I'llsee somebody shares or

(01:40:09):
somebody's interacting with themon X shares or somebody's
interacting with them on X, andthen that's where I see like, oh
, they're still going hard onthe pavement on Leah and even
though the lawsuit's happening.
I mean it's sort of it's one ofthose things yeah, if anything.

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
It's actually a barometer to me of how much what
we're doing is somethingthey're reacting to, because,
for example, in February, whenwe started doing more putting
out regular content, the linesthat they started, the attack
lines they started using, wereso became so much more vicious

(01:40:46):
and we were like, okay, pat onthe back, let's keep on going,
you're muted, you're muted.

Speaker 1 (01:40:55):
If you ain't got a hate site, you ain't doing it,
right?
Yeah, when you start, when youget a hate site, it's like okay,
now we're making some, nowwe're making some progress.
They know we're here, we're onthe radar.
So yeah, good question,rosemary, I don't know.
We will keep you posted.
I was 67 yesterday and I'mproud I survived this long.

(01:41:19):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:41:20):
Nice, happy birthday.

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
Yeah, that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
Yeah, that is amazing .

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
You know I just turned 50.
I'm surprised I made it thislong.
I'm happy I made it this long.
I had some hard.
Those were some hard years onthis pod.
Nancy Eves Claire, your episodeon cults to consciousness were
epic.
So much I didn't know about you, despite all the hours of
watching you both Love you too,mark yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
Thank you, nancy, appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:49):
I muted myself before because I was burping behind
the scenes here without youhearing Nancy Appreciate it.
I muted myself before Cause Iwas uh, I was burping behind the
scenes here without you hearingit, and uh, and then um and
then I just burped with the micon, so it was just like whatever
you know.
Um, thank you for that, nancy.
Yeah, we thanks for watchingwhen we do these other channels.
That is true.
That is another good reasonthat sometimes we do these other
channels is because they'll askus questions that no one's ever

(01:42:12):
asked us before.
So we might, you might, findout something that you don't,
you didn't know from watchingour channel.
So, um, and then if you so,yeah, we'll tune in, we'll tell
you what, what other videos orwhat other channels we do on
other channels.
Michael, for the super chat.
Appreciate it.
Um, I don't see that one.
You, purplenet.

(01:42:33):
There it is.

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
Yeah, see, I told you .

Speaker 1 (01:42:36):
Thank you, purplenet.
Thank you, I lost your superchat.
It was gone forever, but Clairefound it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
My neighbor said, there was a.

Speaker 1 (01:42:43):
Scientology office in Jacksonville, florida.
Have you heard if there was onehere?
Love you guys.
I've never heard of that.
It might be.
They sometimes have thesethings called missions, which is
just like anyone can start amission.
You just have to buy a certainamount of books and materials
and it's like it's called it'sactually called a mission
starter package and it's notcheap.

(01:43:05):
It's like I think I want to sayit's like $150,000 and you buy
all these books and you buy allthese materials and, um, then
you can start a mission and youcan start it in your living room
.
If you want, it can be at yourhouse and you can just put a
sign up on the door or a little,a little lawn sign that says
scientology of podunk nowhere.
And then people can just cometo your house and timbuktu and

(01:43:28):
read scientology books and thenthat's a mission.
So they they could havesomething in Jacksonville.
I wouldn't worry.
I don't think they're gettingpeople in Jacksonville you need?
Yeah, I'm just going to leaveit there.
I don't think Jacksonville istheir biggest place.
They're going to scoop peopleup for Scientology Space.

(01:43:49):
Cadet Brett Claire, is there aworking title for your book or
is it a secret?
It's definitely a secret.
Don't let her tell you what itis, because then OSA will make a
book that calls themselves thatthing.
Wait, actually do we alreadyhave?
We already have the ISBN?
Did you already register theISBN?

Speaker 2 (01:44:08):
No, but I can do that before our 40K party and we
could announce the two workingtitles that I have and we can
get input that would be fun.

Speaker 1 (01:44:16):
Let's do that before OSA has a chance to make a book
by the name of.

Speaker 2 (01:44:21):
Claire's book.
Good for us that I know how todo all of that and I've even
pre-registered and done allkinds of stuff, so we'll do that
.

Speaker 1 (01:44:28):
Yeah, okay, yep, space Cadet Brett tune in Stay
tuned.

Speaker 2 (01:44:33):
Yes, most likely.

Speaker 1 (01:44:34):
Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:44:35):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:44:36):
CC's Comfort Cooking.

Speaker 2 (01:44:38):
Boom CC in the house For those of you who do not know
.

Speaker 1 (01:44:41):
CC's Comfort Cooking is a very, very good friend of
ours and Claire did a video withher on the channel one of the
Scientology stories, cindyPlehuda.
If you haven't heard her story,go to the Scientology stories
playlist and look for Cindy.
She has a YouTube channel andit is a cooking channel and I'm

(01:45:03):
did she do our famous beansrecipe.

Speaker 2 (01:45:06):
yet she did.
She absolutely did.

Speaker 1 (01:45:10):
This is a family, a Headley family secret beans
recipe that we stole fromanother family and then modified
.

Speaker 2 (01:45:17):
So it's been in the family for decades, just not our
family, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:45:22):
Exactly.
We had this recipe at a goodfriend of ours house and then I
was like, oh, we're definitelytaking that and we're going to
mix that one, do a remix on thatone and make it amazing.
And it was already really good,but we turned it up a notch.

Speaker 2 (01:45:41):
We made it next level .

Speaker 1 (01:45:43):
Yeah, if you're into baked beans, you got to get this
recipe.

Speaker 2 (01:45:46):
Even if you're not into baked beans I'm not that
into beans.

Speaker 1 (01:45:50):
Me neither, actually.
That's a good point.

Speaker 2 (01:45:52):
I never liked baked beans.
I'm not that into beans, Meneither actually.
That's a good point.
I never liked baked beans.

Speaker 1 (01:45:54):
These are really, really good.
I don't even think I ate bakedbeans.
For more than a bite or two.
Before I had the baked beansthat we had at our friend's
house, and now I've eaten bowlsand bowls and probably buckets
of beans by now.
So if you haven't, you got toput a link.
Make a note.
Cc's Comfort Cooking we'regoing to not only we're going to

(01:46:15):
put a link to her channel inthe description, but we're going
to put a link to that beanvideo in the description the
family beans recipe.
And if you are a true watcherof this channel and you can eat
beans and the other ingredientsof this, you got to make
yourself these beans.
They're amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:46:34):
You know what actually and she is going to be
doing our Yorkshire pudding soontoo.

Speaker 1 (01:46:37):
I'm going to make those beans tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:46:39):
Okay, great, I'm going to make those beans
tonight.
By that he means yours truly isgoing to be-.

Speaker 1 (01:46:45):
Nope, I already made the bacon.
You're going to make them.
Okay, that's true, I alreadymade the bacon.

Speaker 2 (01:46:52):
The bacon is for sandwiches, I thought well, some
of it's going to be for beansnow, how about that?

Speaker 1 (01:46:57):
Okay, anyway, we'll put that in the description.
Cece's comfort cooking.
Get over there, hit her, hitsubscribe on her channel.
Um, she's trying.
Um, she's trying her way onYouTube and she, to be fair, um,
sydney has cooked.
Um, we used to do Easter at herhouse and we've had dinner at
her house and we've had gettogethers and all sorts of
parties and all, and this womanhas cooked some amazing, amazing

(01:47:20):
recipes.

Speaker 2 (01:47:21):
And.

Speaker 1 (01:47:21):
I was the one who told her.
I was like you know, you shoulddo a channel.
I mean, you're already doingthe work of doing the cooking.
You might as well just shoot it, and then you know, somebody
else can make the recipes.

Speaker 2 (01:47:32):
Uh, japan of Green Gables says that if you make
beans you're going to have tostay in the basement.
Things are going to get gassy.

Speaker 1 (01:47:39):
They sure are.
Purple Net says Claire's myfavorite.
Claire's the one who's makingme stay in the basement.

Speaker 2 (01:47:44):
Purple Net I'm not you chose the basement, and
you're perfectly capable ofwalking up the stairs.
Honey, let's not make thissomething other than it is, oh.

Speaker 1 (01:47:58):
Ms Pillow, that's who gave us these.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
I'm pulling up her comment.
She says in re-COS behaviorpost Leah suit, as my pappy
would say, they can't fuck up asoup sandwich.
Oh, they can fuck up a soupsandwich, absolutely.
That's the thing aboutScientology is Dave Miscavige

(01:48:18):
lives in this really odd.
I was watching another channel,I can't remember which one it
is right now.
I wish I could remember, buthe's essentially Dave Miscavige
lives in a bubble and in thatbubble he has a feedback loop
where no one tells him no.
So when he does one, he's likeyou know what, give me some

(01:48:41):
paper or take a note and he willdictate that letter that they
wrote that response to herlawsuit.
He dictated that, or he mighteven have dictated it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:52):
Not even.
Not even Corinne Powell wantedto sign that one.
They were just like leave itoff please.
This is an abomination.

Speaker 1 (01:48:58):
Yeah, but he dictated that or he said this is what
we're going to say, and he justread it and then they probably
workshopped that for a while,like he was probably like what
do you think?
What do you think?
And they were like, well, sir,we should mention the fact that
she is she's ridiculous, that'sright Ridiculous.
Put that in there, ridiculous,you know, whatever.
It is Desperate, desperate,yeah, desperate, she's desperate

(01:49:18):
.
Put that in there, desperate.
And then, and they workshopthat thing, you think, like when
you read that response Scient,the worst thing Like oh my gosh,
why would they write that Justwhen you thought it couldn't get
any worse.

Speaker 2 (01:49:35):
One of these days we do have to do that OSA
reenactment we were talkingabout.

Speaker 1 (01:49:38):
Totally.

Speaker 2 (01:49:39):
How they come up with these just outrageous wacky
responses.
It's just insanity.

Speaker 1 (01:49:46):
It's all Dave Miscavige.
And so if he writes that thingand he workshops it, he's like,
oh, tell me this, and he's gotpeople around him.
Yes, sir, that's great, we loveit, we love it, and then that's
it.
It's going out just like that.

Speaker 2 (01:49:59):
So my, my favorite part is the call that comes
after the letter goes out, tomCruise to Dave Miscavige yeah,
hey, dave, did you see thispiece of shit they put out?
Put out.
Can you believe that?

Speaker 1 (01:50:09):
He's like what and he'll pretend like he had
nothing to do with it.
Osa's so incompetent.
Osa's so incompetent.

Speaker 2 (01:50:18):
They're going to the RPF.

Speaker 1 (01:50:20):
If you guys haven't heard this story, it's exactly
what Claire's saying is exactlytrue.
David Miscavige micromanagedevery single possible step of
the blockbuster film Battlefieldearth starring john travolta he
micromanaged basement rightblock he managed raspberry

(01:50:43):
award-winning battlefield earth.
He micromanaged every singlestep of that movie.
John John Travolta was a bitplayer at best in the production
of that movie.
The production company thatJohn Travolta was part of, um,
that invested money and and andeventually went bankrupt due to

(01:51:05):
that movie.
Um had very little say in whathappened to that movie.
David Miscavige was the, wasthe basically the battlefield
earth czar.
He dictated every single partof that movie and when it was
done he said this to the seermembers at the international
base maybe possibly the bestmovie ever made.

(01:51:26):
That's what david miscavigesaid of battlefield earth.
If you haven't seen BattlefieldEarth, it's definitely not Don't
.
It is definitely not the bestmovie ever made.
It is arguably the mostamazingly horrible movie ever
made and if you watch it youshould watch it for free
somewhere because it's amazinglyhorrible.
But when Tom Cruise saw themovie and then called Dave and

(01:51:52):
said, dave, what the hell withthis battlefield earth?
And Dave, in a second, withoutmissing a beat, said I know John
Travolta, that out ethics.
And he said sea sucker, thatout ethics, sea sucker.
And he blamed, he threw JohnTravolta right under the bus.

(01:52:14):
He was driving the bus, hebought the bus, he designed the
bus.
He drove it right over JohnTravolta.

Speaker 2 (01:52:20):
He did target practice beforehand.
That's how much he did.

Speaker 1 (01:52:25):
Anyway.
So yes, very good, ms Pillow,you absolutely captured it.
The other one is they couldn't.
They couldn't pour piss out ofa boot if the directions were on
the heel.
I think that's the othersailing.

Speaker 2 (01:52:41):
I haven't heard that one.
That's a good one.
I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:52:44):
Yes, okay, destiny Salazar, you both are such a
great example of how to standtall.
See what I did there.
In the face of absolutelyabsurd gaslighting and abuse.
You are here.
Thank you for everything.
Keep fighting.
Thank you, destiny.
We appreciate it, we're not.
You know, claire does haveX-Men superpowers.
I don't think I mean she canrun up a hill, Seriously.

Speaker 2 (01:53:07):
Well, you have your own superpowers, oh, pat Shields
.
They just don't include runningup a hill, pat.

Speaker 1 (01:53:12):
Shields knew.
She said she teed that one up.
She said so.
Sorry, claire, that was the.
That was the, the viewer fromSaskatchewan.

Speaker 2 (01:53:22):
I know, I know, I remember.
Thanks, pat, it's okay, Iforgive you.
I, you know, I've got broadshoulders.

Speaker 1 (01:53:33):
I can laugh at myself too.
It's perfectly fine with me.
Yeah, oh good, here's one fromClearwater, chad.
Anyone that wants to start anSPTV channel can dip their toes
in on my pre-show every Monday.
Yeah, exactly, there's a lot ofchannels that you can just go
on and cut your teeth on thosechannels and see how they do it.
And, and a lot of the channelsare sharing tips and trip tips.

Speaker 2 (01:53:53):
Tips and tricks.

Speaker 1 (01:53:54):
Tips and tricks.
That's the one.
I knew the.
My brain knew the words, but mymouth didn't want to play.

Speaker 2 (01:54:01):
Hannah.
I'm trying to get HannahElringham-Whitfield to join SPTV
Nation.
She's definitely going to be anamazing addition.

Speaker 1 (01:54:08):
She does great interviews, she's so well-spoken
.
And she also I don't know howshe I mean, I remember a lot of
stuff from the eighties and thenineties and the two thousands,
but she's she's recountingstories from the fifties and
sixties.
In some of these videos thatClaire's done with her and she's
talking about, they went hereand then L Ron Hubbard said this
, and then we had to go here andthen we did that and you know

(01:54:31):
it's a great.
I thought I don't know what itis, but in the Sea Org
everything has to be so detailedoriented and you're going to
get in trouble no matter whichway you do it.
So you really have to think alot about what you do and what
you say and who you say it toand who's there.
And so, oddly enough, in mostof the times where these crazy

(01:54:52):
stories happen, you remembereverything that's happening
around you and who was there andwhat was said, because there's
almost like a forensicinvestigation that happens in
some of these things and they'reasking you okay, what did you
say?
Okay, good, then what did yousay?
Okay, who?
Who was the one that wastalking about COB?
And then who was this and whosaid that and who said this?
And then you get sex checkedafter that and then you have to

(01:55:15):
say it all over again.
So a lot of these things.
We've been over it many, manytimes.
So we know what happened.
Pamela Chambers, I think a bunchof your subscribers should send
Davey custom onesies withsayings like Xenu is my homeboy,
or Rosa smells like poo oh no.
Them onesies with sayings likeXenu is my homeboy, or Osa
smells like poo oh no.
Just wearing them is goodenough.
Because I guarantee you, davidMiscavige snuck out to the

(01:55:37):
movies.
He sneaks out to the movies inClearwater and he goes to
restaurants.
He goes places under the radarand that somebody's kind of
scoped out beforehand.
And you know he's hanging outwith tom cruise doing stuff,
with tom going to football gamesin england and you know, going
snowmobiling in alaska.

(01:55:58):
He's doing stuff.
He goes out.
He's not always locked up inhis little bunker in florida,
but, um, when he goes out and hesees somebody wearing a xenu as
my homeboy hoodie um, if youwant to see a tantrum, that's
when a tantrum is going tohappen.
When he gets back to the SeaOrg base, wherever he's at, and
he's like they're selling.

(01:56:20):
They're selling hoodies overthere on YouTube.
You know, no one's going to tellhim that if he sees one, oh boy
, is he going to find out?
Alex Jackson, many years ago Iwas an extra in a documentary
called the history of educationuh, director and nearly all crew

(01:56:40):
were scientologists.
Do you know anything about it?
Um, it was actually called alex, it was called the history of
man or the.
It was called man theunfathomable.
Um, and maybe there was therewas a, maybe they did one you
say many years ago, you have tosay a date when I was there, um,
we changed the names of all ofthe films we were doing to

(01:57:01):
stupid things like the historyof education or whatever, and
then it was really called manthe unfathomable or problems of
life.
Oh yeah, we didn't use the realname in the permits and in all
the things, because people wouldbe like you can't, because the
names were ridiculous.
You could never put that out.
People would be man theunfathomable, so but we called

(01:57:26):
them other things and then-.

Speaker 2 (01:57:28):
Use of a doll in auditing and TR.

Speaker 1 (01:57:30):
Exactly, you can't make that the name for the
casting call.
People are like use of a dollin auditing and tr.
Exactly, you can't make thatthe name of for the casting call
.
People are like use of a doll.
What are you guys?

Speaker 2 (01:57:37):
doing over there.
That's super bizarre, and youalso don't want professional
actors to know what nonsensethey were performing in.
Right, you're muted again sorryI was drinking.

Speaker 1 (01:57:51):
Sorry, alex, if you could say when and what, go into
Blown for Good contact page andsend us a thing.
If you know the date and whereyou went, I can tell you if it
was me and my crew, or whichcrew it was, or which crew it
likely was, if it was after mytime.
Thanks for that, though.
Yeah, we shot many a thing.

(01:58:13):
We shot a lot at this.
Abandoned or not abandoned.
It was a decommissioned AirForce base in California.
It was Norton Air Force Base.
It's now actually calledOntario International Airport,
but it used to be an Air Forcebase, and right after the Air
Force decommissioned it theydonated part of it to an Indian

(01:58:36):
reservation and Scientologyrented a portion of the base
that had this giant bunker in itfrom the reservation and we
shot movies in it, and we didthat for many, many years.

Speaker 2 (01:58:50):
Yeah, speaking of which, we've got to get
something on the calendar of youand Mitch comparing a creation
of cult movie stories.
That will be fun.

Speaker 1 (01:58:58):
Oh yeah, I want to just do every movie we shot with
Mitch.
Just make one video for eachexcuse me for each movie and
just tell all our crazy storiesfrom that movie, like a making
of a making of review.

Speaker 2 (01:59:09):
That would be so awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:59:11):
Yes, and we did about 30 films together, so we've got
lots of stories.
Lots of content Each one ofthose took either a month to
three to four to five, andincluded several trips to being
restricted to the base andphysical abuse.
Sleeping above a hallway orunder my desk or somewhere
behind a set.
Evelyn, thank you for the superchat.

(01:59:33):
I'm trying to rip through therest of these questions and
super chats Free Xenu Project.
You have to see BattlefieldEarth, rift Tracks.
That is absolutely something.
Just go to YouTube and sayBattlefield Earth, rift Tracks
and it is pretty much.
If you've seen the movie it'sfunny, but if you haven't, it's
still funny.
But yes, rift Trax is hilarious.

(01:59:54):
I think DM David Miscavige mayhave lost his calling in
slapstick movies.
Yeah, yeah, he missed hiscalling.
He missed his calling for sure.
They probably just didn't evensee him.
They were calling his name andhe was just so small.
They just didn't see him.
They were calling his name andhe was just so small.
I just didn't see him.

Speaker 2 (02:00:12):
He was right there, him and Marty would have made a
great Laurel and Hardy.

Speaker 1 (02:00:15):
They really would have Jim's.
Jm Stevens too, says I'm stillcatching up.
What about little captain Davy?
Troll of the board.
Hi, Osa, that's great as well.
All suggestions are welcomed.
Michael Oldham says crazyvideos from Reese on Aaron's
channel recording Scientologistpumping him for info before they

(02:00:38):
kicked her out.
Yeah, that's another thing.
He's bringing up a great point.
So, Michael Oldham, I thinkhe's referring to.
So there's a gal, there's awoman on Aaron's channel that
she was calling him and givinghim info about people that were
in Scientology.

Speaker 2 (02:00:51):
Yeah, and she has her own channel now.
Relatable Reese, Reese Quibble.

Speaker 1 (02:00:56):
Exactly.
Well, aaron was showingsomething on his phone.
Somehow he either showedsomething on his phone or he
pulled something up and her namewas in his phone as somebody he
had talked to and it justflashed for a second.
Yep, but they knew now thisReese person was somebody that
was talking to him and theyScientologists.

(02:01:19):
I don't know why.
Scientologists don't understandhow the world works, but
Scientologists have been callingher and talking to her for
hours on end, admitting to allthese things that Reese is
talking about, about assaultsthat are happening and just
illegal activities.
They're talking about it andcorroborating it and admitting

(02:01:41):
that it happened in phone callswith her.
Now she lives in a one partystate so she can record phone
calls all day long.
The Scientologist does not.
So if they're recording thecall which most likely if OSA's
involved and there's aScientologist involved, they're
most likely recording the call.
But she did record it and nowthey're just playing them on

(02:02:03):
YouTube and they're just goingthrough the whole entire
conversation, multipleconversations.
So Scientologists are and Reesealso was another one of these
people.
She don't want anything to dowith Scientology, so when they
told her she was gettingdeclared, it was almost like
okay, like yeah, whoop-dee-dooand I mean I don't think, I mean

(02:02:27):
I don't.
I'm sure it might not have beenthe most convenient thing in
her life to happen, but she'ssort of like I'm done, I don't
care about Scientology and herold.
This person that's calling herfrom Scientology is like, well,
we've got to figure out howwe're going to handle this and
how we're going to solve this,and she's like it's solved.
I don't want anything to dowith you guys.

(02:02:47):
I'm good and they're trying tofigure out, just keeping her
talking and meanwhile theperson's just Reese is just
laying the rope out and they'rejust stringing themselves up
full time.

Speaker 2 (02:02:58):
Reese is getting the last laugh.
That's for darn sure Way to go,reese, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:03:02):
Apostate Alex says order merch, 15 random people
get a free AF t-shirt.
What, what's he talking about?
I'm not sure On his channel.

Speaker 2 (02:03:11):
Okay, I'm not sure what he.
I think we missed some context,alex, so maybe you can fill us
in on what this is about.
Hopefully, everyone knows whatyou're talking about.

Speaker 1 (02:03:19):
Alex is giving away merch over on his channel.
Get over there if you wantsomething.
Bgfc did DM live off 45 a weekbefore LRH died.
I'm wondering if hispersonality was different when
he was not superior to everyother CEO member.
You know, that's funny.
No, he, as soon as DavidMiscavige sort of had some power

(02:03:41):
he actually before he waschairman of the board RTC, he
was chairman of the board ASIand that's authored sir author
services, which is the companythat manages L Ron Hubbard's
money and all his books androyalties and all that sort of
stuff.
And David Miscavige lost $30million of L Ron Hubbard's money

(02:04:04):
$30 million.
He basically donated it to anoil well scam he bought, donated
it to um an oil well scam.
He.
He bought, he bought, I guess,a whole bunch of oil wells in
like Oklahoma or something likethat that did not exist and the
$30 million was just poof gone.
And what David Miscavige did washe got this um, he got this

(02:04:28):
idea to have, uh, this artist Ithink his name was, name was
Frank Frazetta.
He's a popular science fictionartist, very like space opera,
space opera, you know, basicallysoft core images that he would
paint for science fiction.
I'm telling it like it is here,folks.

(02:04:49):
I'm telling it like it is here,folks.
And they did a bunch of limitededition prints of these Frank
Frazetta things and they charged$10,000, $5,000, $15,000 for
these paintings.
And then they did leather-boundeditions of Battlefield Earth
and leather-bound editions ofMission Earth and they sold them

(02:05:11):
earth and and they sold themand they, they basically got
back that 30 million and put itback in the account so that LF L
Ron Hubbard went back andlooked, he would see that that
30 million was still there.
So they did a.
They did a a lot of work to putthat money back before LRH
noticed that there was $30million missing.

Speaker 2 (02:05:28):
Yep, oopsie.
Oh, by the way, I started acomment from apostate Alex that
explains his um.
There you go.

Speaker 1 (02:05:35):
Alex says I will donate $2, $200 towards
aftermath promote t-shirts givenas random free gifts to people
who order on blown for good.
Apostate Alex and SP shop inthe next 24 hours First come,
first serve.
15 t-shirts total.
Nice, okay, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 (02:05:55):
So the next 15 people that order on his or ours or SP
shop, they'll get a Aftermathpromo shirt.
That's cool.

Speaker 1 (02:06:02):
Thanks, Apostate Alex we appreciate it, but how are
we going to give away Aftermathpromo t-shirts?

Speaker 2 (02:06:08):
Well, I think he's saying that he'll provide the
Aftermath promo shirts.
Oh, does he have Aftermath?

Speaker 1 (02:06:12):
promo shirts.
Oh, does he have Aftermath?
Promo shirts.

Speaker 2 (02:06:15):
He said earlier that he would be more than happy to
make some, so oh, okay, we'llfigure out the details behind
the scenes.

Speaker 1 (02:06:22):
I'm not exactly sure how, um I mean.
Thank you, alex, we appreciateall the support, but, um, yeah,
we can do it before the show aswell.
We can work out some of thesethings.
We don't have to do it mid-show.
Alex says documentary wassomething else.
So sneaky.
My scene was in South LA at aschool.
It was full school shooting.
I died in it.
I'll write you, wow.

(02:06:44):
So yeah, that was definitelyafter I left and that's
absolutely something Scientologydoes.
Something that Scientologyloves to do is they take
whatever is happening in thezeitgeist and they try to
capture it and make it intosomething that's going to
benefit Scientology.
So, of course, they're nowdoing a.
They're doing school shootingvideos to show how their form of

(02:07:09):
education is going to work.
And, yeah, I think Liz Galewould would would be able to
tell you some stories of howtheir Scientology education went
and how it didn't work outtotally for their family the way
Scientology said it would workout.
Yeah, kimberly Stovall sayswatched CC's video of the beans

(02:07:30):
while watching this live Now Iwant beans, kimberly.
Wow, live now I want beans.

Speaker 2 (02:07:36):
Kimberly.
Now I want beans.
Okay, the way to multitask do.
Yeah, by the way, Vincentgiggles.

Speaker 1 (02:07:42):
Mark, do you have an?
And I and I, I get it.
I detec memory also.
Happy anniversary, love seeingyou both on lives.
I don't know what I detec means, because I didn't go to school,
but I do have a sort of aphotographic memory of sorts.
If I have seen somebody inperson or in a movie or in any

(02:08:03):
sort of function and I see thatperson again, it doesn't matter
when or what they look like.
It's weird.
Claire can attest to this.
It is very freaky.

Speaker 2 (02:08:15):
Just so you don't have a misunderstood word honey.

Speaker 1 (02:08:17):
Oh yeah, I don't want to go past one of those.
It's a psychology term.

Speaker 2 (02:08:19):
I mean it's relating to or denoting mental images
having unusual vividness anddetail, as if actually visible.

Speaker 1 (02:08:27):
Yes, I do have that.
Thank you, I thought it wasphotographic memory, but I guess
I got that too.
I've got GPS, I've got eidetic,I've got photograph.

Speaker 2 (02:08:36):
All of that.

Speaker 1 (02:08:38):
I don't know what to say.

Speaker 2 (02:08:38):
Facial recognition software Facial recognition
built in Okay.

Speaker 1 (02:08:43):
Does Jenna have more subscribers with no content on
YouTube than Davey hassupporters?

Speaker 2 (02:08:47):
I really think she does no questions, she
definitely does.
I really think she does noquestion, she definitely does.
Thank you, duchess Diana.
That is a very good point.
She's winning the Miscavigefamily game at this point in a
major way.

Speaker 1 (02:08:58):
Julie, her old boss.
Another saying from her oldboss my old boss used to say
you're no one darling until youhave enemies.
Yes, that's exactly In the COSworld.
You are definitely someone.
That's exactly right.
If you don't have a hate site,you ain't doing it right.

Speaker 2 (02:09:29):
Yeah, I heard that they were while I was on my
sabbatical, of sorts we can callit, in my prison, my cage, I
heard that there was some drama.

Speaker 1 (02:09:35):
There was some drama going on with people attacking
the new SPTV channels.
That's 100% OSA.
That's a total OSA op.
And if it's not OSA, why wouldyou do it?
There's no real reason forsomeone who's not OSA to attack
an SPTV channel like, especiallya new, a new, like a new person

(02:09:57):
that doesn't really have a dogin this fight.
They just want to be part ofthe gang and have a channel and
do fun videos and stuff likethat, and then OSA starts
attacking them.
Yeah, that's 100%, um OSA.

Speaker 2 (02:10:09):
So if the people that if it looks like OSA acts like
OSA does the work of OSA,whatever, who cares, Move along
folks.
Let's stay focused and ontarget.

Speaker 1 (02:10:20):
Yeah, um, denver, steve-o says OSA smells like poo
hoodies.
Out now, zinu, is my Headleystuff soon at my place Caught
Dom.
I don't know what's going on.
I don't know, I don't, you know.
This is what happens.
These the comments.
Fyi, great couples, remembertwo plus our new one, jeff and

(02:10:42):
Reese Q Bell, nice.

Speaker 2 (02:10:44):
There you go.

Speaker 1 (02:10:45):
Oh, I didn't know there's a Jeff yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:10:47):
Reese is married to Jeff.

Speaker 1 (02:10:49):
And he's doing the channel too.

Speaker 2 (02:10:51):
I'm not so I yeah, rhys is married to Jeff and he's
doing the channel too.
I'm not, so I'm not totally upon all the latest.

Speaker 1 (02:10:55):
Either way.

Speaker 2 (02:10:56):
I think he's been on there sometimes, but I don't
think he was ever in Scientology, which is awesome.
Hats off to Jeff, because ittakes a special person to stick
through all this nonsense.
Yeah, galia Sinatra, I justwant to hear Mark try to
pronounce my name thank you, Ifeel, I feel vindicated.

Speaker 1 (02:11:17):
Galia sinatra doesn't matter, you're okay, I just
want to hear mark try topronounce my name.
Well, I did it twice.
Hopefully I did it right.
I don't know.
Yeah, I mean saskatchewan.
Come on, there's, just's justSaskatchewan.
Oh, my goodness, I almostjumped into the computer screen.
I was like what SaskatchewanPatty B says say goodnight

(02:11:41):
Claire, said George, goodnightClaire, said Gracie.
That's what he would say.
Say goodnight Gracie and she'dsay goodnight Gracie.

Speaker 2 (02:11:47):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (02:11:49):
Okay, Patty B, thank you for that.
Space Cadet Brett, do you thinkanyone has ever tried to leave
Scientology by changing theiridentity?
I've never heard of that, but Ihave heard and this has
actually happened.
I think we might have eventalked about it.
Scientology changed identitiesof people in Scientology so
their parents couldn't find them.

Speaker 2 (02:12:08):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (02:12:09):
That's happened.
That is a real thing they do inthere.
That's happened.
That is a real thing they do inthere.

Speaker 2 (02:12:14):
That's crazy.
Did you see, whitney come?
You did one time meet somebodyin the in the aisle of Home
Depot, and they were wearing afull on wig.

Speaker 1 (02:12:21):
Well, that is true, we have we have we did have meet
up with somebody who had, whohad recently escaped, and we
switched vehicles and I met himin the plumbing aisle of Home
Depot and he was like the keysare in the two inch pipes and I
was like okay.
And I looked over and I waslike oh my God, he was wearing a

(02:12:41):
whole fro.
I was like, oh dude, okay,here's my keys.
Let's not be this.
Is you're going way overboardwith this.
Did you see?
Whitney Cummings said she wason a mission to find shelly even
got a bus, love you guys.
I didn't see that.

(02:13:01):
I'll look at that.
There's a lot of comedians thathave been throwing um shade.
Thank you for that nuts andboard.
Um, I'll have to.
I'll have to check that out.
Um, there is.
I was watching this show.
I was watching this show.
It's called the Y-Files or justY-Files, w-h-y-files.
It's a guy with a goldfishcalled the hecklefish and he

(02:13:22):
just it's kind of got weirdstuff.
I don't even know how I endedup watching the guy's video.
I don't even know where it camefrom.
It showed up in my feedProbably because I got lots of
Scientology nonsense on my feed.
This guy's video came up in myfeed.
Anyway, I was watching a videoor two of him and then, just in
the middle of one of the videos,he just went on a rant about
Scientology and the fish bleepedhim saying the word Scientology

(02:13:46):
, the fish.
The fish was like don't talkabout them, their lawyers are
watching and I was like, wow,even the goldfish knows to watch
out for Scientology.
Anyway, since I heard of Dave'sdolls, I like to call him
Puppet Boy.
I like that Freezino project.

Speaker 2 (02:14:02):
Yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 1 (02:14:04):
Puppet Boy.
We're going to add that to thelist.

Speaker 2 (02:14:06):
Yeah, we are right now.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:14:09):
Puppet Boy.
Like I said, all the names aregreat.
I don't know why we can't.
This has been a thing thatcould just be.
Somebody had a bad idea to callsomething the only one thing If
there's 10 good names for it,let's call it all 10 good names,
right, and we just refer to itby all those names.

Speaker 2 (02:14:29):
You can identify your doll with whichever name you
like the best.
That's right and we put it inthe store.

Speaker 1 (02:14:33):
We'll list all the names in the store, all the
different names that it has.
We will list it by all.
We could even just makemultiple items of the same thing
.
We could have one that justsays what I even troll of the
board troll.
But what did the guy?
Just go Puppet boy It'll havethe price.
And then another one will saytroll the hole and it'll have

(02:14:54):
the price.
It'll be the same doll, it'lljust be multiple listings.
I love it, we're doing it,thank you, all right, bo
Explores.

Speaker 2 (02:15:07):
Love y'all Cold.

Speaker 1 (02:15:08):
Thank you, bo.
We love it.
Thank you, appreciate it.
Super sticker from Denise L.
Thank you, denise.
Mickey, great couples, remembertwo plus.

Speaker 2 (02:15:19):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:15:19):
I did that one Rain virus.
What OSA does to couples isvery much like the Gary Newman
song.
My name is ruin, oh ruin, butyou say you spell it rain no
rain virus is who is?

Speaker 2 (02:15:36):
who wrote this comment?
But it says my name is ruin no,he's rain is saying there's a
gary newman song, my name isruin, and that's what osa does
to couples which, by the way,rain virus made me this.
Thank you, rain virus.
I'm pretty sure I got thatright.
Okay, well way, rain virus mademe this.
Thank you, rain virus.
I'm pretty sure I got thatright.

Speaker 1 (02:15:55):
Okay, well, thank you , rain virus, I appreciate it.
Lauren S says Claire, you lookgorgeous tonight.
Miss seeing the lives you wouldhave.
Aaron with Aaron.
Have an awesome weekend you too.
Yeah, aaron has got like Ithink he's got like 175,000
subscribers.
Now he's slaying it over there,but, yeah, we haven't been
doing lives.
I think Claire's the onlyperson is Amy.

(02:16:16):
Right, you've been doing liveswith Amy, that's about it.

Speaker 2 (02:16:20):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (02:16:22):
Oh yeah, was Mark's auditing by TC included in his
free letter debt?
No, they conveniently left thatoff the list.
So not only was he a shittyauditor, but it wasn't even
worth charging me for it.

Speaker 2 (02:16:35):
That's how bad it was Because it was student auditing
.

Speaker 1 (02:16:39):
Yeah, exactly, it was student auditing.
I don't think you can chargefor that.

Speaker 2 (02:16:42):
No, you can't.

Speaker 1 (02:16:43):
Yeah, there you go, patty B.
Thank you, patty B, ashHolecraft.
Can Amy Scobie play Miscavigein the Osa reenactment?
I love her and Claire's videosso much.
Those two are great.
Mark, I guess you're okay too.

(02:17:04):
Oh, I know, don't.
I know it Chump Change Expressover here.
I can't even get one video inon my own channel anymore.
Oh, sorry, I didn't see youthere, babe, skipper of the land
whoopettes great thank you foryour courage.
I felt hopeless when a friendspiraled down the scientology
toilet bowl several years ago.
I support your mission.
Yeah, it is a bummer we do havepeople watching the channel.

(02:17:25):
Are you doing that?

Speaker 2 (02:17:27):
no I didn't do that Was not me.

Speaker 1 (02:17:30):
We got body things in here.
Yeah, we do have a lot ofpeople in here that have family
members or friends that alsojoined Scientology and they're
trying to figure out whatScientology is all about.
So they can get them out orsomething like that.
If you know somebody that youwant to find out about, send us

(02:17:51):
an email or go to the Blown ForGood contact page at
blownforgoodcom and send us athing.
If we know where they are,we'll try to track them down.
And if you want us to put theword out on the lives, we'll ask
on the lives.
We usually try to find out kindof behind the scenes about that
sort of thing, because if weask on the live, your person's

(02:18:12):
gonna get lit up if they'restill in there.
But if we ask kind of aroundthe whisper web and if we ask
the people that are still inthat talk to us, we can ask them
to kind of poke around and seewhat they know.
Ola says I live 10 minutes fromthe Swiss org.
By the way, it's not Zurich.
I have a hoodie from Aaron withyour faces.

(02:18:32):
I'm going there wearing it soon.
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:18:35):
That's fun.
Nice, that's awesome.
We love that.

Speaker 1 (02:18:38):
That's always good.
S D, a, f, c 88 super sticker.
Thank you for that.
Wow, we got.
We did it.
Guys late to the show, justwant to say hello, mark Fisher.

Speaker 2 (02:18:50):
Thank you very much for joining us.

Speaker 1 (02:18:52):
We just bought my hail Zinu shirt.
Love you guys.
Thank you, mandy, appreciate it.
And then another super stickerfor Mark Fisher.
Thank you guys.
Oh my God, that was a marathontwo 20.

Speaker 2 (02:19:04):
Thank you for yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:19:06):
Thank you for everybody who tuned in.
What do we need to do somethingelse?

Speaker 2 (02:19:10):
We were just going to end with a giveaway.

Speaker 1 (02:19:12):
We're going to end with a giveaway.
We're going to end with agiveaway, yeah, awesome, okay.
So somebody said Norton airfaceor became San Bernardino.
He's right.
Norton air force base becameSan Bernardino international
airport, not Ontario.
You're exactly right.
We used to go to Ontarioairport If we had to.
We couldn't, we didn't.

(02:19:33):
We used to go to Ontarioairport if we had to, we
couldn't, we didn't.
Have time to go to LAX.
That's why I got confused.
But yes, norton Air Force IsSan Bernardino International
Airport, a real thing, like itdid.
It actually is doinginternational flights.
We always joke like, oh my God,they're never going to do
international flights.

Speaker 2 (02:19:46):
Probably I believe it .
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:19:49):
They had big runways because it used to be Air Force,
so they could pretty much landany plane there.

Speaker 2 (02:19:53):
Yep.
But- 105 North Leland NortonWay, San Bernardino is the SBD
International Airport.

Speaker 1 (02:20:00):
There you go, sbd.

Speaker 2 (02:20:03):
SBD.

Speaker 1 (02:20:04):
Did Mark see the Where's Shelly Milk carton?
Michelle Carpenter.

Speaker 2 (02:20:08):
Oh, Michelle, I'll show him.
He's been gone, obviously.

Speaker 1 (02:20:11):
Yeah, she doesn't show me anything either.
I don't get to see it.
Hey, now my cage doesn't evenhave windows in it.
It's all bars and no windows.

Speaker 2 (02:20:20):
Mark is not a big fan of backstory, as he calls it.

Speaker 1 (02:20:26):
Oh, what if TC's stupid movie stunts fails one of
these days?
How do you think DM will handlethat?
Oh, DM will just pick upanother TC.
He doesn't give a shit.
He talks so much smack aboutTom Cruise and he did so many
things that a real friend wouldnot do to Tom Cruise.
It's so weird that Tom Cruisethinks that he doesn't backstab
him every chance he gets.

(02:20:47):
Yep, and I don't know about Tom, but they start spreading these
rumors.
You'll see this every time themovies want to make some money.
They say that Tom Cruise isleaving Scientology.
He's never leaving.
Dave would really have to dosomething really crazy to get
him to leave.
And if he leaves, Scientologyis done for.
So Dave will do everything inhis powers to keep Tom in his

(02:21:10):
pocket.
But the Paramount and thedifferent production companies
trying to push these movies whenthey want to sell some movies
they got to leak someScientology is losing Tom Cruise
stories to the tabloids.

Speaker 2 (02:21:20):
It's so ridiculous.
It's like really you've gotnothing more creative.

Speaker 1 (02:21:25):
Yeah, okay, are we going to do a giveaway?

Speaker 2 (02:21:27):
Yeah, I think we have a few last comments and then
we're doing a giveaway.
It looks like there's two lastones and then we can go.

Speaker 1 (02:21:35):
Joni says I just wanted to say hi, hi.

Speaker 2 (02:21:37):
Joni Hi, thanks for joining us.

Speaker 1 (02:21:40):
Okay, did that one, okay.
And then Misha Misha, mishaSeeks says new merch idea Tom
Cruise made me an SP.
I love it, I love it.

Speaker 2 (02:21:52):
Great, awesome, all right, now we can do a giveaway.

Speaker 1 (02:21:55):
Okay, thank you for the comments, guys.
Thank you for everybody whotuned in tonight.
We got about 1600 people inhere right now.
Who wants something?
Who wants something?
We're going to go in thecomments and if you write that
you want something in thecomments, we might give you
something in the comments.
Yep, let's see here.
Angie English, nice.

(02:22:21):
Hey, angie, get some merch.

Speaker 2 (02:22:24):
Perfect.

Speaker 1 (02:22:27):
So Angie just go to Karen Radford.
You get something too.
There you go, so you got it,and Deviant Outcast.
Okay, perfect, there you go, soyou got it, and Deviant Outcast
.

Speaker 2 (02:22:34):
Okay, perfect.

Speaker 1 (02:22:36):
BFG merch would make my life.
Okay, you guys need to all.
Claire wrote down the usernames.
You guys got to go to the BFGcontact page and send Claire
your info or a link to whatmerch you'd like.
And you're good you get it.

Speaker 2 (02:22:49):
Yeah, that's in fact include the link, because then
you don't have to send me youraddress or anything else size
nothing.
Just send me the link from ourmerch store and then I can
create a giveaway link and sendit right back.

Speaker 1 (02:23:02):
Oh, that's awesome.
Oh, so you don't even needtheir info.
They literally you can sendthem a link and they can just
get it.

Speaker 2 (02:23:08):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (02:23:09):
Love it and they can just get it.
Yep, love it, yep.
Okay, guys, we did it.
I'm back.
Ain't you not going to get meback into the cage, okay?

Speaker 2 (02:23:20):
Oh my goodness, I'm never going to live this down.

Speaker 1 (02:23:22):
We're going to do.

Speaker 2 (02:23:24):
They're going to start a free mark.

Speaker 1 (02:23:27):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (02:23:27):
Free Zinu and free Mark.

Speaker 1 (02:23:29):
Free Mark.
No, zinu's free.
We're good.
We've been making plans, me andZinu.
Thank you for everybody whotuned in.
If you haven't subscribed,please subscribe.
We're going to do something new.
I'm going to try to have itready for Sunday, but we're
going to put songs at the end ofour videos.
Okay, and I don't exactly knowhow I'm going to do this, but
we're going to try to do it forthis next video on Sunday.

(02:23:50):
And so right now there is oneSPTV blown for good fan that has
sent me, I'm going to say, 25songs.

Speaker 2 (02:24:02):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (02:24:03):
At least.
So I'm going to put his songsto video and we're going to put
them at the end of our videos.
I'm not.
I'm not going to be the firstto say they ain't my type of
songs, I would not listen tothese songs, but he's the only
one sending me songs and he sentme a lot, so I feel, and the
lyrics on on these are verycreative.

(02:24:24):
They are funny and I will see ifI can put the lyrics on.
We'll put them in thedescription.
We'll figure out a way to do it, or maybe we'll just put them
up on the screen or something.
I don't know.
We have to figure out exactlyhow we're going to do this.
But if you want your song atthe end of one of our videos,
then you got to send us a songand it can't be copyrighted
stuff.
This guy there's no way.

(02:24:44):
This guy stole any from fromanybody.
He has a unique style.
So he's probably going to getat least 20 videos worth of his
songs put on, because I haven'tgotten anybody else.
So if you've if, if somebodyelse has got some silliness that
they want to send us in musicform to put on the end of the
videos.
We're going to start I'mliterally going to just start
editing them and tagging them tothe end of videos that we do

(02:25:07):
and even the lives when we do alive.
I'm going to load up the videoand I'm going to put it on and
it's going to play for 10minutes after the video is over
and I guarantee you that thisguy, he's going to lock up the
content for a while just becausehe sent so much stuff.
Yeah, so that's something elsewe're going to do.
I love that you guys tuned in.

(02:25:28):
Thanks for all 1,500 of you guys.
I hope some of you got somemerch.
For those of you guys, I hopesome of you got some merch.
For those of you didn't, youcan head over to the Blown for
Good merch store in thedescription and get something.
But yeah, I'm glad to be backand until next time, and then
that's where I push this outrothing.
Thanks for watching.
If you'd like to help supportthe channel, feel free to check

(02:25:49):
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(02:26:10):
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