Unveiling Scientology's Mysteries: Spy Files, Shelly Miscavige, and Community Revelations - Scientology Q&A #32 - Blown for Good: Scientology Exposed

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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Hey guys, welcome to the channel.
It's Mark Headley here.
We've also got my wife, claire.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hello.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
I hope you guys have been enjoying all the when is
Shelly Miscavige videos thatClaire's been putting out.
And then also, haven't you beendoing the lives with Amy as
well?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yes, yes, wednesdays, which of course tomorrow, we
have more SP business.
That's interrupting our weeklyscheduled activities.
So I have to apologize to Amyon a frequent basis but Matt's
going to fill in for on afrequent basis.
But she's Matt's going to fillin for me for tomorrow, her
husband.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Oh good, perfect, Matt's perfect, he's awesome.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
He is awesome.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
I realized we were messing with stuff and we lost
our crackers.
There we go, you're going toput our cracker logo back up
there.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Can't do life without crackers honey.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
That's right, we got to have our SPTV.
Welcome back to SPTV.
The uh SPTV network has grownuh considerably uh in the last
few months.
Yeah, so we got cooking channelsand crafting channels and wrap
up shows and uh, I've been awayon a project probably for the
last three weeks out of town and, um, and I didn't bring any of

(01:26):
my recording equipment oranything, I really, uh, was just
doing the work I needed to dothere.
But uh, I tuned into some crazyvideos that people were doing
on all different channels and,uh, I thoroughly enjoyed myself
and uh, just kind of ran, ranamok in the chat with Goldie and
all the folks, all the frequentflyers.

(01:48):
There's a lot of people that,no matter whose channel you go
to, you'll see.
There's at least, I'd say Idon't know between five or ten
people that you're most likelygoing to see a handful of them
in any one video you go andwatch.
So we love that, we love thatthere's a community of people
watching and we are getting alot.

(02:09):
I'll tell you this, guys we aregetting a lot more
Scientologists that are watchingthis channel, people that are
Neverends or Under the Radar.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
I talked to three just today.
Really, you did yes.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
So you've got these people that are related.
They're never ends, but they'rerelated to somebody that's in
Scientology.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Oh, I was talking about people still in.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Well, no, I know.
But then they tell us, oh,she's not really in, and they
kind of out their relativethat's a Scientologist, but
that's not really being aScientologist anymore.
So they know this under theradar thing, and then and then
we just have a ton of peoplethat are like they might've gone
to course a few months ago orthey they went to an event a

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while.
They're kind of still in butthey're finding out a lot of
stuff that they always said.
This is the thing inScientology You're always
wondering about certain things,where there's rumors about
things, but you can't really ask.
You can't be like hitting theuh, hitting the streets, asking
people questions.
If somebody happens to give upsome info, then you'll get some.

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But otherwise you can't kind ofsolicit uh, gossip in
Scientology, about Scientology,other Scientologists and stuff
is whatever, but you can'treally ask somebody if they're
still in Scientology, if you'rea Scientologist and they're a
Scientologist, that's a super,that's a big question yeah, it's
like wink, wink, nudge, nudgefight club kind of thing.

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Yeah, so you talked to somepeople like that today.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, in fact one of them said that they wanted to
just get the message out topeople still in Scientology that
OSA is so behind that it'sactually much easier to leave
Scientology now than it wasbefore.
Like, obviously, you know, forus we worked at management
they've harassed us all this andthat and the other thing, but

(04:03):
your general averageScientologist, just walk away,
call us.
We'd love to talk to you.
It's much easier these days toget out than one might think.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Yeah, it really is.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
A message brought to you from the inside.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah, there's no amount of OSA people that can
keep up with all the stuffthat's going on.
Now.
You know, we've been doing thisseries on this channel called
the Spy Files, and the Spy Fileshave really, really expanded
since I started doing the series.
So when we first started doingthe series, we had this folder

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and it had a bunch of otherfolders in it and one of the
folders said Headling.
So we got sent that folder andthat's really the folder we've
had for a few years now.
I guess let's say a few years, acouple of years, several years
and it was all the documents, uh, from office of special affairs

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at Scientology's dirty tricksdepartment.
Uh was from the office ofspecial affairs, um, detailing
out how they plan to ruin ourlives, okay, so this was always
a wild thing and we always hadthese and, um, there was not
really anything I could figureout what to do with them.
And then, when we started doingsome more stuff on the channel
this blown for good channel hasbeen around since 2008, by the

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way, and we just had differentvideos up here we finally
started doing some in-personlive videos and prerecorded
videos and putting them up andwe figured we do, we go through
the spy files and we just didkind of explain them.
And in the process of doingthat we realized that there's a
lot of terminology in thesethings, there's a lot of

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different players and stuff likethat.
So you can't really just givethe files to somebody and they
understand them.
You have to decipher them.
So we've been creating a cipherfor these spy files, which is
glossary it's.
It's a few different things.
It's a glossary that has likescientology and and some osa

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specific terms.
Um, like when they collect yourgarbage, they call that special
collection.
So whenever they say line or dline, which means dustbin the d
line, um anyway.
So when they say certain thingslike that, um, special
collection will happen nextThursday, you know.
Oh, that means when they'regoing to steal this guy's
garbage or collect it or buy itfrom the garbage guy, however

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they get it.
And so we've been creating that.
As we go through the files, wefound that there were folders
that didn't seem to haveanything in them.
But then when we starteddigging in these folders, we
found more documents and wefound more folders even so,

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where we just had our files,when we started looking
throughout all the other files,there's an upwards of 5,000
individual documents in hundredsand hundreds of folders and
subfolders and subfolders, andit looks to be about 40,000
pages of documents, internalScientology documents and at

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first we thought they were justfrom going from the office of
Special Affairs up to what iscalled the Watchdog Committee or
to RTC Religious TechnologyCenter.
Chairman of the Board.
David Miscavige, captain, littleDavey the South Pole elf,
little Davey the Keebler Kingwhatever people are calling him

(07:41):
these days.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Whatever suits your fancy.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
And so a lot of these documents.
We thought were just betweenthese two, but now we found out
that all of OSA's internalpolicies are in these documents.
So, like the literal policiesthat were written for the
guardian's office when L RonHubbard was still around, those
are the policies that OSAoperates off of to this day we

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day.
They're called OSA networkdocuments now, but they were the
Guardian Office playbook andnow it's the Office of Special
Affair or OSA playbook.
So we found all of those.
We found all of.
There's certain things that whensomething happens in
Scientology and David Miscavigespeaks of it and or he writes to

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somebody about it, whenever hesends something to somebody,
anyone in Scientology refers tothat as chairman of the board
traffic.
Ok, so anytime he sends adispatch or sends something in
writing or meets, meets with you, it's considered that you have
gotten some cob traffic.

(08:48):
I don't know, because maybe hesends so many dispatches.
It seems like everyone's stuckin traffic there.
I don't know why they call ittraffic.
I've never understood that, butthat's what it's called.
It's called traffic.
So anytime david miscavigespeaks about something, this is
bringing back memories forclaire.
Anytime david miscavige speaksabout something, this is
bringing back memories forclaire.
Anytime david miscavige speaksabout any certain thing, um,

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like if he's talking about howthese books should be made, then
if you're the person makingbooks, one of your jobs is to
get all of the cob traffic.
That has to do with what hesaid on how this book should be
made.
There's documents in there ofeverything that David Miscavige
has ever said about the internetcompiled into one single

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document, and I will tell youguys, this document, that's just
one of these types of documents.
And there's a program.
This is one of my favoritethings ever.
There's a program we may havecovered this in another video, I
can't remember if we have, butit is a program that Mike wrote

(09:55):
with another guy.
Mike Rinder wrote with anotherguy of how they're going to
handle the internet and one ofthe first targets on their
program to handle the internetlike to take over the internet.
For Scientology, one of thetargets early on is to get
access to the internet, to likewrite a proposal so that they
will be allowed to use theinternet.
Anyway, there's all theseridiculous programs from the

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Office of Special Affairs andfor Religious Technology Center
and David Miscavige and it's alltheir internal dealings with,
and there are some documents inthere where he is really upset
with the people that he'swriting to and you can tell
because of the things that he'swriting in the document.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
You think upset is really a term that describes?

Speaker 1 (10:50):
I would say apoplectic is way more perfect.
For sure, it's hard to tellthrough the document about the
severity, but he's definitelynot happy and he knows he can't
write it into a document buthe's going to write as much as
he can in these documents.
The width and breadth and depthof these documents is becoming
more and more clear and now thatI'm sending them to the people

(11:11):
that have been targeted, there'sso many that once we find a
document that we knew there was,let's say, 20 different people
that were targeted.
We've known them that we knowthey were targeted.
We just assumed they'd havedocuments and when we searched
their name we found it and thenwe've sent.
Most of those people have beensent their documents.

(11:31):
Like Mark Fisher, in thecomments I can see he's saying
Mark, thanks for my documents.
Yes, hi, mark, thanks forjoining us.
Yes and I did send Mark Fisherhis documents.
I sent Janice Grady herdocuments.
I sent um Stephen um, is it?
Oh no, david Turetsky hisdocuments.
Um, there are a few people.

(11:52):
If you think you've gotdocuments and I haven't sent
them to you, um, then drop me aline and I'll search them for
you, Um, but there are a lot ofother people that we're.
We're kind of as we review thedocuments there's.
There's 40,000 pages ofdocuments, so, excuse me, we

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haven't read them all.
That's the craziest thing.
We haven't even read them all.
We don't.
We don't know what other crazydocuments there are because we
haven't read all the documents.
And every time we think wefound a, a one that's amazing
and it's going to blow the socksoff something.
We send it to as many people aswe can, and then the next day
we find two more that are twiceas crazy as the last one.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
So there are a lot of documents that this the part
about understanding the languagethat's in these documents is so
important to help lawenforcement to do their job.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, so there have some of the.
Some of these documents havebeen turned over to law
enforcement and not a lot hashappened with them, based on
that that we know of.
So the reason that we arecreating a cipher so that you
can translate these documents,that is one of the main reasons,

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so that law enforcementattorneys um, attorneys, for a
lot of these people that they'retargeting, um, uh, anyone who,
journalists that are going to doa story with these documents,
it we're, we're trying to dothat with these documents.
We're trying to do that, we'retrying to create that cipher so
that all those people canproductively use these documents
.

(13:34):
We are, we are working withdifferent other channels besides
ourselves.
When I say channels, I don'tmean like a YouTube channel, I
mean like an information channel.
So yeah, in a way, but you knowpeople that are in the media or
familiar with certain things.
We're working with those typesof people.
We are working with attorneys,we're working with law

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enforcement.
So we are, we are doing as muchas we can and getting as much
feedback from them so that wecan more understand what they
need and explain to them whatthese documents are.
Did I miss anything?
Claire Does that pretty muchmake sense.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
No, that covers it, yep.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
So the reason I haven't done?
People keep emailing.
I see the comments, I see theemails.
I see stuff on Twitter here andthere when I waste my time and
get on there.
But when I go on there andpeople ask me about the spy
files, it's bigger than just mysilly files.
Now we have found I mean, ofcourse, I want to tell you guys

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about the spies that at mybirthday that's literally the
next file that's about to comeout.
It's so amazing because I gotpictures of the party.
I got them like staging, like adocument raid while I'm out back
.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
barbecue and hot dogs and burgers I got it, while you
were doing a monster mash, Iwas doing karaoke in the
backyard.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
I'm doing karaoke, that's when we'll go.
When he's he's good andliquored up doing karaoke,
that's when we'll go through theoffice.
The files are so much fun, um,the files are so much uh fun, um
.
Anyway, I would love to go andfinish that off and we will do
that, no matter what cause.
There's South park stuff,there's all kinds of good stuff
in my files, um, but some ofthese other people I mean they,

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I was a new.
I was a new person that had justsort of come on the scene at
the time of these documents.
So we have it from kind ofbeginning to when you know
there's no more documents.
But we can see it organically,sort of like, hey, we think Mark
might be this guy.
We don't know, now he's not theguy, now he is the guy.

(15:38):
What are we gonna do?
Holy smokes, he's totally theguy.
We need to unleash the hounds.
And then, when they unleash thehounds, a lot of people think
you know, this is a comment Isee from time to time People are
like these guys were in a cult.
They're super excited about thiscult.
Well, the thing that you've gotto dig is that we were there
for 15 years.

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We couldn't like spit sidewayswithout getting approval.
We couldn't go, we couldn't dowhat we couldn't do it.
What we wanted to do.
We had to do whateverScientology wanted to do.
We had to think like aScientologist, we had to act
like a Scientologist.
You couldn't, you couldn't doanything now.
And we were told this is thebest part.
We were told that if we left,we'd be lucky if we ended up

(16:19):
flipping burgers.
That's a direct quote.
That's not like oh, that's.
They said no, that's, that's it.
Am I?
Am I wrong, claire?

Speaker 2 (16:27):
No, not at all.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
We would be lucky to end up flipping burgers Now.
First of all, anybody who knowsme, I love to flip a burger,
yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
I would have loved to flip burgers compared to any of
that crap.
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah, so the fact that I can flip burgers whenever
I want and I also get paid todo other things, it seems.
It seems not only is it fun,but, um, every time I get to do
one of these videos, osa has towatch this and they have to
write this up and then theygotta send it to david miscavige

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.
And so when you, when you seeme get a little giddy and you
see me start to giggle, or yousee other guys we're doing
videos with, when we startlaughing about things, it's
funny to us because we knowthere's people that are going to
have to type this and they'regoing to watch it and they're
going to know it's true.
They know everything we'resaying is not a lie.
We're just saying what happened.

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We going to know, it's true,they know.
Everything we're saying is not alie.
We're just saying what happened.
We're not.
You know.
You don't have to, you don'thave to exaggerate what goes on
in Scientology, because it'sinsane, it's batshit, crazy on
the baseline.
It only gets crazier as you go.
Okay so, but it starts out atbatshit, that's, that's, that's
number, that's that's that'slevel zero yeah, anyway, so, um,

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so that's why we're.
And also when you, if you justwere talking about this stuff
and you weren't joking aroundand messing around and and
calling it the for the insanityit is, it would be a super
bummer like I wouldn't want towatch that.
Yeah, no, um, so when you joke,yeah, that's why we try to make
, make it be entertaining.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
There's there's much more stuff that's going on
behind the scenes we're nottalking about.
That is far more serious andwill be talked about at the
appropriate time.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
But you know some of it's also entertaining and some
of it is pretty amazing, but italso gives us a good I'm in.
I'm in a lovely mood when Icome to do these videos because
of the things that I know aregoing to happen, like things
that we've been working on foryears and years and they're
finally about to hatch orsomething's finally about to

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happen and it is going to rockDavid Miscavige's little little
cabinet that he sits in orwhatever, and it's going to.
It's going to be amazing thathe sits in or whatever, and it's
going to.
It's going to be amazing.
And that's in addition to thelawsuits and the all the people
coming forward.
And the more we do this, themore we get the word out.
We more the more people that welet know that Scientology can't

(18:57):
really do anything to hurt you.
And they can't really.
They can't really do anythingthat's going to hurt you.
Is my mic staticky?
Do you hear that?

Speaker 2 (19:09):
It was so the same thing that remember.
I told you about this beforeyou left.
There it is.
It just came back a little bitjust now.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Now it's back.
Wow, that's weird.
I don't hear it in myheadphones.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
It's the BT.
Somebody is apparently growingsome BTs down there.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
They know when I'm here, baby, they know when I'm
here, anyway.
So that's the reason why we'rehaving fun doing the channel,
and if we're not serious enoughfor you, go tune in to one of
the other channels.
That's more serious.
There's a whole plethora of SPTVchannels, and one of them will
be more serious than this one, Iguarantee you.
Um, so, um, so, yeah, so that'sthat.

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Um, we, oh, we're going to dosome giveaways tonight too.
I don't know if I went too long.
No, we're good.
Um, we're going to do somegiveaways.
We're going to give away some,uh, hardback blown for good
books.
We are running out ofpaperbacks and then paperbacks
are done.
We sold out of all the blownfor good paperbacks.
We've got hardbacks, though wegot tons of hardbacks.
We printed a lot of hardbacksand hardbacks we printed first,

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and so we got some.
So we got hardbacks we're goingto be given away and merch.
So if you want merch or youwant a hardback, I feel that
either one will work for any ofthe giveaways, depending on what
people want, depending on whatwe land on.
Like you know, we do the spinthe wheel in the comments.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
The static is back, just FYI.
Yeah, and that's okay.
And we added last week the SaveBob Ferris merch, which is in
support of Liz Ferris.
The proceeds will go to her tohelp her in her journey to
recover her dad, Bob Ferris,that Mark and I both knew and
worked with.
We've been working with Lizvery, very closely and in fact

(20:52):
Liz and I will be doing aninterview next week Sorry later
this week, Thursday, Big daytomorrow, so it seems like a
week, right, honey.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Awesome.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
And we're adding.
I have some some really awesomeClaire bear merch designs that
we're going to add tonight.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Nice Claire bear merch.
Yeah, you got to get over toblown for good store Link is in
the description.
I forgot to tell everybodywhere is he.
I should say hey, you guys, youguys asked, we did it.
Got some special news?
Hey, you guys asked.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
We did it.
We got some special news.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
We have this little guy.
This is a Captain Davey elf.
Okay, look at this little guy.
He's got little bars, he's gotthe campaign bars.
Where is it?
Right there, right here withthis little worked with L Ron
Hubbard campaign, that red oneat top, that's I worked with L
Ron Hubbard, who gives a shitanyway.
Anyway, but yeah, we don't knowwhat we're going to call it.

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So in the comments, do yourbest, do your worst, do
everything you can to name thislittle turdlet, I don't know
what we're going to call him.
David Miscavige hates when youcall him Davey.
David Miscavige hates when youhates when you call him small.
He hates when you call himcaptain.

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That drives him nuts.
So it's going to be a combo ofsomething.
I don't know.
If he's an elf, there's gottabe a maybe.
Oh, he's not an elf.
He's bigger than an elf.
What's a little bigger than anelf?

Speaker 2 (22:27):
A troll, a troll.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
He might end up being Captain little Davy Troll or
something.
We'll have to figure it out.
Scientology is busy Licensebuilding fake names for toys
they're going to sell.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
You're not going to like this, but we need to let
you know, please don't send usanother rehabilitation project
for us.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
In the comments.
Let us know what you think weshould call this little guy.
Whoever's comments got the mostcomments.
That's probably the one I'mgoing to look at.
I'm not going to go throughevery single one, but this guy
definitely has the deadscientology eye look going on,
oh he does he's got he reallydoes like that's like.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
This will be like if if your kids are misbehaving,
the the normal elf won't come,it will be this guy instead.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah we'll start a new trend anyway, we're gonna
name this guy, so we are.
We also we're going to put up Idon't know if I can do a poll
on YouTube.
Anyway, we'll have to do a poll.
I'm going to try to figure out.
We already kind of thoughtwe're going to do a 20 bucks.
It's going to be a fundraiserfor the aftermath foundation.
So how many ever of these wesell, the money will go to the

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Aftermath Foundation to helppeople that are escaping or need
to get their life back togetherafter escaping or leaving or
getting kicked out or whatevertheir situation is from
Scientology.
We try to help them out and soevery one of these that we sell,
it's going to be a fundraiser.
We're going to try to sell themfor about 20 bucks.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
And, to be clear, nothing on this earth gives us
greater pleasure than helpingpeople get back on their feet
after leaving scientology.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah, and if this little davey guy paid for it,
that makes it even better yeah,thanks, captain davey captain
davey says please, anyway.
Um, that's going to be like achristmas thing.
Um, he says so, this is the elfand this is captain.
See, he's so much.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
He's literally, he's a troll, he's a troll yeah yeah,
he's a troll okay, funniest isthat the, the actual elf, sits
in his lap kind of perfectly hedoes.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Really they're like yeah, this is well, no, I think
dave, no, tom is tom, I thinkdave is smaller than tom.
So so yeah, let's see, I don'tknow, somebody can, somebody can
clip that that's little Daveyand Tom, anyway, or the whatever
, the self is whatever's, Idon't know Some elf he met on
Tinder, I don't know Whatevergrinder, whatever they, whatever

(24:57):
they use, anyway, so the dollis not the doll is.
Somebody said the doll is cute,the doll is not cute.
We got, we specifically dead,eyed it.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
He's definitely not.
He's supposed to.
He's got the evil baby.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Doesn't have pupils, anyway, remember evil stare.
These things are being made agazillion miles an hour, so we
could get some variations byaccident, I don't know.
Troll in the hole sounds good.
I like that, captain Davey.
Troll in the hole.
Gosh, there's so many good oneswe could do.

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The troll really opened it up.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
I'm glad we workshopped that here folks,
thank you, or troll in charge ofthe hole.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Anyway, just let the internet do its thing.
They'll come up with the mostamazing names.
I guarantee you Anybody whowants to clip this and get this
Davy Troll name thing going, youcan put it wherever you want, I
won't kill it.
Okay, so we got the elf guy, ohyeah.
Okay, last thing, and thenwe'll get into a giveaway.
Then we can do Q&A if you guyswant, but, or we can tell you

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other stuff we can.
We can do whatever we want,because this is our channel.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
I'm so glad you're home, honey.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
I know I'm so glad to .
I've been.
I've had so many notes.
I had to scrap all the notes Imade because I made like 50
videos where the notes watchingother people's videos.
So we're just gonna skip allthat and we'll figure that out
later.
But we have been working.
We've been teasing this for awhile.
We have been working on aproject and it actually predates

(26:33):
the Aftermath Foundation.
To be honest, we've beenworking on a project for, I want
to say, a decade, yep, about adecade.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yeah, about a decade, and this video documents a lot
of the work we've done and a lotof other people have done as
well, and this video documentsabout 20 years worth of history
of this person that we helpedand ended up being the perfect

(27:04):
candidate for somebody for theaftermath foundation to assist.
And that person is um is now atthe point where we've completed
the video and they've watchedthe video and they love the
video, and so we're going toshow you guys the video and, um,
we're we're doing some finallast little tweaks and some

(27:25):
cards and stuff like that, andwe're probably going to release
it on Friday or Saturday.
So if you're not subscribed,make sure you're subscribed.
You're not going to want tomiss this one.
This one will be awesome andwe're going to do it as a
fundraiser for the Aftermath.
So any donations that we gettowards the video will go
directly to the foundation andwe're going to do the poll for

(27:48):
the Davey thing over on Discordso we can do that.
It's 200 people, that's a goodsample size.
We'll do it on Twitter andwe'll do it on Discord.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
And we can do it on the community tab here too.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
On the community tab Wonderful.
Thank you for all that in thecomments Sorry guys, I get the
comments scroll so sometimes onecatches my eye.
So we're going to release thatvideo as a fundraiser.
So any donations we can do willgo straight to the Aftermath
Foundation.
And I'm thinking that we mayalso do like an after video

(28:20):
broadcast so we can hear whatpeople think of the video and if
anybody has any questions or ifthey want to know about the guy
that we did the video, aboutany, we can kind of answer those
questions.
So cause the video.
You're going to love the video.
If you're watching this channel, and if you're watching this
channel right now and you likethis content, you're going to
love that content.
But if you watch this video allthe time and you already know

(28:41):
what our content is, you aregoing to love this video.
It is an amazing story.
If you don't at least get alittle bit emotional or
teary-eyed watching this video,then you need to dump the coal,
the cold, burnt coal, out ofyour heart and you need to put
some hot stuff in there.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
Speaking for myself, of course.
I know the story.
I've invested hundreds andhundreds of hours over the last
two or three years.
I've seen it easily 10 timesand every single time I watch it
I am utterly sobbing by the endof it.
So much so that our son theother night was like mama you

(29:20):
okay, it's a great video, guys,it's happy.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
It's happy, it's happy.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Happy tears.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Happy tears it's.
It is an amazing video.
We've been working on it for along time, so of course, we
think it's amazing and we hopeyou like it.
But, um, we are going torelease that this weekend, so
please subscribe and we will dothat, but for now, let's do a
giveaway.
Yeah, um, do you want to?
Uh, you want to pick somebody?

Speaker 2 (29:44):
sure.
So what are we doing first?

Speaker 1 (29:47):
whatever they, whatever they pick okay, yeah,
so if you want a book, say book.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
If you want to merge, say merge yep, so whatever
would like, get in the commentsand comment away and I'll do a
countdown.
We'll go five, four.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Oh, you've got to give people more time.
Some of these people were allthe way in the back in the
recliner and they have to getlike, they've got to kind of
wiggle up and they've got to getout and you've got to give them
at least a sec to get on thekeyboard or get the screen.
Okay, now you're good.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Okay, boom.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Pick me Alex C.
Okay, we picked him.
He didn't say what he wants.
No, you got to say.
You got to say, merch, send mean email
claireatblowingforgoodcom.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
If you'd like a book, just send me your address.
If you'd like merch, go to themerch store, pick a link of
whatever you'd like, send methat link and I'll send you a
giveaway link.
That's how it works, easy peasyawesome, awesome, awesome.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Um.
Did that uh site that you weretalking about earlier.
Get uh, get fixed.
Are we good?
Can I uh?
It should be, should be lookslike it works to me, the blog
good site.
Okay, guys, this is what we'regonna do.
We, oh, I don't know.
I just would get on anotherthing here um we were doing we
have all kinds of new andexciting stuff going on, yeah we

(31:05):
were.
We were doing um spy files andwe were doing, uh, what were
those things?
We're doing?
The shoops, we were doing thedavy shoops and the right mike
rinder bobblehead pigs and wehad people sending us stuff from
so many places it wasimpossible to keep track of it
all and it was a lot of work forClaire mostly, and then a lot
for me.

(31:25):
And Claire wasn't necessarilyalways doing the best job with
it, Just honestly it was just amess, so we did the blown for
good website so that you couldsubmit images through it.
Um, it has all kinds of info.
It has latest, the latestvideos, it has old videos, it
has new videos, it has otherstuff.
It has all sorts of resourcesfor finding other channels and

(31:46):
other books and other videos andso and it's a way that you can
contact us.
So if you want to get ahold ofus, just go to blown forgoodcom
and go to the contact us tab.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Are you going to pull it up on the screen?

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah, I was.
Well, I mean, they know,blownforgoodcom.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Well, I know, but we should show it off.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Okay, I like it.
Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Seeing is believing.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Okay, let's do it, let's see, let's see if I can do
it.
Okay there it is.
Okay, let's see what happens.
There we go.
Do we have another one of thesethere?
It is Even better, okay, so so,yeah, it's got.
You can see there.
It's got some of the spy files,the where is Shelly Miscavige?

(32:29):
You can go to books.
If you go to books, you get mybook and soon to be Claire's
book.
And if you go to merch, it justgoes straight to the merch site
and then, yeah, it's got theYouTube, the podcast.
Oh, by the way, the podcast isreally killing it right now.
If you guys haven't subscribedto the podcast, if you listen to
podcasts, please subscribe tothe Blown for Good podcast.

(32:52):
We're getting about 6,000downloads a week on the blown
for good podcast and there is alot of content over there.
And every once in a while wetry to sneak in something that's
not necessarily on YouTube.
Usually they kind of no matterwhat.
In the end they catch up, butfor sometimes there's content
over there that's not over here,and vice versa.
So, yeah, go over to thepodcast.

(33:13):
And also, if you do subscribe tous on the podcast, give us a
review.
We are in the we're hidingright on the border of the top
200 podcasts in tons ofcountries.
So if you guys subscribe, yeah,yeah, top 200 podcasts in many
countries.
So if you go over to thewhatever, whatever, wherever you
listen to podcasts, uh on Appleor your Android or whatever, or

(33:36):
on your iPhone or your Mac bookor your iPad, just subscribe to
blown for good on the podcastapp and uh and drop us a review
and um, we will S we will easilybe um solidly into the top 200
in several different countries.
So thank you for that.
If you can do that.
Um's also places for press onthe website.

(33:57):
I don't know if you can seethat it's really tiny, but
there's a mailing list.
You can jump on the mailinglist, click on that and then you
can get added up.
So you got to fix that, but theor maybe it's just I need to
refresh, but either way, thatyou can get on the mailing list
for Claire's's book if you wantto be notified when Claire's
book comes out.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
And, by the way, let's not forget to just mention
that the person we hired to dothis is part of the amazing SPTV
community.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Oh yeah, we've been using as many people as we can
from the community for thingsthat we need for the community.
So we're all about that.
We love a good community andwe've got some talented folks
out there that are watching this, so we are going to use your
skills every second we can getthem and so yeah, so that's the
Blown for Good site.
So, yeah, if you need anythingor want anything from the

(34:49):
channel, from us, that's whereyou can get it from the Blown
for Good channel and youmentioned that on there you
people can pre-register to getnotified when my book comes out,
right?
Yeah, that's the form that wasbroken.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Oh, okay, lovely, I'll get that fixed anyway, so,
uh, so yeah, so that's.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
uh, I think that's pretty much catches everybody up
with all the stuff that's beengoing on.
There's a lot of other stuffthat I can't talk about, but as
soon as we can, we will and beon the lookout.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
Just because we're not saying it doesn't mean it
ain't happening.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yeah, If you guys aren't subscribed, subscribe.
Be on the lookout.
We got spy files coming fromall directions.
I guarantee you Scientology isgoing to lose their minds when
they see the amount of people inthe amount of places that are
going to start covering thecontents of these files on a
regular and continual basis.

(35:41):
It is going to be a sight tobehold and you're not going to
want to miss it.
So, um, so yeah, sign up and,um, please do, let us know in
the comments, uh, what you thinkthat thing should be called,
that little Davy doll.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
I really want to that little Sear member abomination
thing that you were showingearlier.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Captain, nonsense.
Okay, I'm ready to do some Q&A.
You ready to do some Q&A?

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yes, I am.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Okay, here's one.
Homeboy wore combat boots tothe beach.
I sent you an email earliertoday hoping you were able to
open it.
Homeboy, I get about 200 emailsa day at least.
So I do not look at them unlessthey're my company ones and the
blown for gun ones I kind ofperuse through on the weekend.

(36:30):
So I am not an everyday blownfor good email guy.
But if you go to the websiteyou can send a contact form and
I think I get to see where thatleads to.
But I think it's going to popup as a little like notice or
alert when you send it.
But I will check and see homeboy this this GC email that I

(36:50):
need to get to.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Yeah, and if it's urgent, send it to me,
claireatblomforgoodcom.
I can't guarantee I will alwaysrespond, but I certainly pay
daily attention to that email.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Awesome.
Juliana says happy birthday toClearwater Chad.
Oh, happy birthday, clearwaterChad.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
And shout out to Juliana, who's always everywhere
, at all times.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
She was in one of these chats that I was watching,
I think as well.
There was a lot of people in alot of chats, but I think that
was that could have been while Iwas still here, I can't
remember.
John Satowski says SPTV isoverworking OSA.
Oh, we've been overworking OSAfor a very long time, but now
it's.
We are the triple, triple,double overtime.

(37:35):
Now Does the harassment tend tocome in waves or is it pretty
much continual?
It's staying.
Thank you, stephen.
Thank you for that.
You're very generous.
It is continual in the factthat the Twitter, the Twitter
trolls and the websites and thehate sites, those are always
there Since I want to say since2006, there always been just a.

(37:56):
The headleys are evil people.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Web presence on uh, from scientology just
consistently yeah, though let'snot fail to mention that it's
200 twitter accounts run byabout four people.
Um, that's who's trying todominate Twitter with their hate
rhetoric?
And yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah, it's not.
It's a lot of accounts, butit's not a lot of people.
No, it's not.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
And nor you can tell that, because they always say
the exact same comments.
They're not very creative overOSA these days, now that we're
overworking them to the bone.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Yeah, yeah, and before Elon got rid of the bots
they'd have 300 of those people.
Now it's just like a handful ofguys that are always there and
they've always been there andthey block us, so we don't ever
really see what they say.
So it's kind of funny because Iguess other people are and

(38:52):
those people usually take ascreenshot or they'll message me
or they'll tag me and it'lljust say I can't, you can't,
you're not, you're not able tosee this content.
I'll be like, okay, well, itlooks exciting, whatever's going
on, um, but um.
But yeah, we are, we're sort ofum on Twitter.
Um, that's where a lot of thetrolls are on Twitter for the

(39:14):
most part, but we are doing moreblown for good stuff over on
Twitter and you get excitedthere with the comments and we
are have been putting up videoson Twitter before they come out
on YouTube, like the whereShelly videos have been coming
out a few days early over onTwitter, and if you're a

(39:35):
subscriber to the blow for goodchannel over there, then you get
to watch them early.
The Where's Shelly videos havebeen coming out a few days early
over on Twitter and if you're asubscriber to the Blow for Good
channel over there, then youget to watch them early.
That's about the only thing Ican think of, besides just not
giving everybody everything atthe same time, but the only
other thing that's continual isthe websites.
They have these hate websitesthat I have never once ever been
to, but I've been told lots ofstories about them.
Evidently, I'm licking crackers, I'm putting spiders in drawers

(39:58):
and rats and coffee.
They're stealing millions ofdollars and committing regular
elder abuse, but I licked acracker one day, so watch out.
So so, yeah, um, and then theletters to the companies and

(40:19):
stuff.
That's more of like when, Iguess, david Miscavige says hey,
what are you guys doing?
How are these guys still on theinternet, like we never left,
but we're still here?
And then they get a rocket.
It's called when you're intothe sea, or that's called
getting a rocket up yourbackside and you need to send
these guys a rocket.
That's actually what they say,right, don't they?

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Yeah, sra.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Severe Reality Adjustment yeah, so that's
basically just yellingScientology.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
We have an acronym for that.
There's an acronym foreverything.
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Yeah, that's true, we got an acronym for everything.
Oh my God, yeah, that's true,we got an acronym for that.
Anyway, um, so, yeah, that, Iguess that's a.
That answers that question.
It's, it does come in waves,but it's mostly continual.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
Yeah, I watched a shiny happy people on the last
trip back here from one of mymany SP business trips.
Yeah and um, I was, I was, Imean the parallels were stunning
, but the acronyms was one ofthe parallels that was like, oh,
they do that too.
Good to know.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Yeah, coded language.
I think that's a cult.
That's a sure sign of a cult ifthere's a coded language that
others can't understand, andthey have that for sure.
John says thank you foreverything you guys do.
Your videos have been sovaluable to me.
When is the SP cruise?
Well, there's an SP cruiseevery year.
John, thank you for that.
You're very, very, verygenerous.
There's a cruise every year.

(41:42):
We just don't invite you guysto it, so I don't know.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
We have to have some downtime to recover from many
different things in our lives.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
I actually never thought of this, but almost all
of the people that are on thecruise are SPs.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
They are.
We really love our SPs.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
We do right.
We love a good SP, bonnie.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Our family of choice are one for one SPs.
Like absolutely 100%.
It's almost like you know thatbadge of trust.
You go, you're good, You'recool, we're good with that.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Also, to be fair, you know, all gloating aside, if
you're having a party and yougot SPs there or you got
Scientologists there, the SP oneis going to be the fun one.
The Scientology one that's notgoing to be a fun party.
Those guys aren't supposed todrink or smoke, or I mean, well,
smoke cigarettes.
They smoke or smoke, or I mean,well, smoke, they smoke anyway.
Either way, let's go on, we'llmove on.
Paula puffer says cos has to bepooping themselves?

(42:42):
Go sp tv.
Um, I'm yeah, I don't know um,the food they serve there is
very starchy, so they could be alittle backed up.
I'm just saying I'm not sure.
Mark fisher says thanks for myfile.
Mark, yes, yes, thank you, mark, for all the all that you guys
are doing.
Mark Fisher has a channel, uhour Scientology stories.
Peeling back the onion, him anduh, janice, uh, gillum Grady,

(43:06):
right?

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Yep, that's right.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Elsie, how different would Scientology be if Pat
Broker took over?
What is he like?
You know that's a good question, elsie, thank you for that.
You're very generous.
How different would Scientologybe if Pat Broker took over?
What is he like?
You know, pat Broker was gonebefore by the time I got there.
Okay, do you hear that noise?
I do.
Okay, I hear that.
That's loud.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
It's like a plane getting ready to take off behind
you?

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Yeah, I don't know, man, we got audio BTs.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
We do, we really do.
My answer to that is no, it'sback.
We didn't know Pat Broker.
We didn't work with him, so wedon't know the answer to that to
what Pat Broker was like.
However, would Scientology bedifferent?
No, and the reason for that isbecause everything Scientology
does is dictated by L RonHubbard policies and they cannot

(43:59):
change those policies.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Yeah, that's right.
That's true, it might be adifferent flavor, but it's still
going to taste the same.
You know, what I'm saying.
The basic taste is going to bethe same.
Thank you for that.
Elsie Cheers from Paris, France.
Can you walk me through the OTlevels, why some Scientologists
take them and others do not?
I don't quite understand things.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Sure, I can do that.
Perfect, audrey.
This is all about money.
In Scientology, doing the OTlevels is incredibly expensive.
In Scientology, doing the OTlevels is incredibly expensive
and you have to get.
So there's steps.
You have to do one level at atime and you have to get

(44:48):
approved to then do the upperlevels.
And I think, all told, it couldcost easily anywhere from $
300,000 to up to a million ifyou factor in regular donations
to the International Associationof Scientologists.
And many people are not approvedto go on to the OT levels.
For example, if you have aphysical condition, like perhaps

(45:11):
you have epilepsy, that wouldnot be approved for you to do
the upper levels.
If you have connections togovernment or media or the
police or anything like that,you're not going to be allowed
to do the upper levels.
But so some people are inScientology but never reached
the upper level.
So, for example, I was in themiddle of OT level five at the

(45:36):
time that I escaped.
Mark never got to the upperlevels, he was just working all
the time.
So hopefully that answers yourquestion and welcome back honey.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Thank you, can you hear me?
Yep, and I can hear your audioBTs oh perfect, ok, good, well,
well then it's not me, because Igot all new stuff and
everything switched over.
Okay, clearwater chad.
Anyone growing up?
Anyone, anyone growing?
an spt channel is welcome tocome on chad's pre-show.
We had nine guests monday.

(46:10):
Yeah, there's so many.
There's so many channels.
Thank you, clearwater chatter.
Appreciate it.
Um, there's so many channelsnow that, um, we can't schedule
anymore.
There's too many people doingtoo many things at the same time
.
So if you're, if you've got achannel that you like to watch,
just subscribe please.
Um, we can't.

(46:31):
We do certain people do thingson certain days and, um, we
usually do our things on similardays, but sometimes, if we can
do one alive and we don't haveanything else going, we're going
to jump on or do a live.
So, um, that's how it is.
But, uh, yes, you can go overto Clearwater Chads Um, is that?
Did that list get put on the?
Um?
All the different channels onthe um going for good website?

(46:53):
Oh yeah, all the differentchannels on the Blown for Good
website?
Oh yeah, youtube channel.
I think we were going to have a.
Yep, we do have a list overthere.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
And if, Mike, if your channel it's not necessarily a
complete list, but it's a, youknow it's always it was a list
that we sent a few months agowhen we started doing the
website.
Yeah, so if you're not on there, don't feel offended.
It was not intentional.
It offended.
It was not intentional.
It's just an idea of some ofthe many, many growing SPTV
channels.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
It's not intended as a complete directory.
Yeah, there are other placeswhere that is.
I've heard as well.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Mark.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Fisher.
I did a video with Aaron on myfile.
Oh yes, perfect.
So they did a spy file.
Mark Fisher went through hisspy file.
There's so many people thathave files that there could be.
If just the people like thepeople that you know of did
videos on their files, that'd bea hundred videos right there.
That's what that's.
That's how many folder filesand folders there are, because

(47:46):
there's probably a few hundredon people you know about.
There's thousands on peopleyou've never heard of.
Yeah, um, michelle Carpenter,love, love, love the Discord.
Okay, good, awesome, love fromthe Discord.
I was like yeah, michelleCarpenter, of course you love
the Discord.
Love, love, love from theDiscord.
Thank you for that.
Thank you for the super chat.
Apostate Alex just wanted tosay thank you for everything

(48:09):
you're doing on these files.
It's vitally important and nodoubt will have a huge impact.
Yes, thank you, apostate Alex.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Thanks for being here .
Apostate Alex.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Yeah, there are so many.
There's so many things thatthey cover in these documents
that people will know actuallyhappened in real.
To wiggle out of this onebecause they wrote the five, the
documents and then they did it.
So it's like, yeah you, yeah,we got you, we caught you these

(48:42):
files there.
I don't know how many filesthey got in the FBI raid.
If somebody knows actually howmany files they got in the FBI
raid, that would be interestingto know, because they were hard
copy at the time.
So we have 40,000 files thatwould fill definitely several
filing cabinets and Scientologyknew the FBI were going to raid
them.
So the files that they foundare the ones they hadn't gotten

(49:03):
rid of and 11 people went tojail.
These files were never stolen.
These files just walked out thedoor one day and nobody noticed
and the person who walked outwith them didn't even notice.
Marilyn Anderson, thank you forthe super chat.
What's that?

Speaker 2 (49:22):
I said yes.
Thank you, marilyn.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
Angela Bernhardt excited to have Mark back and
the chat agrees Claire's hairlooks lovely today.
It does look lovely, and I toldher so myself.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
You did.
Thank you, honey.
We have a big thing happeningtomorrow, so done, got my
haircut.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Done got her hair.
Did Jefferson Hawkins wouldlove to get my spy files.
Mark, put Jeff on the list.
I think I already made a folderfor him and everything.
Jeff you know I think I had.
I think I got had an old emailWrite Claire an email because I
think I sent it and I had a bademail.
Some guy named Jeff got a wholebunch of craziness.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
I ain't answering that.
That's craziness.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Terry Ray says regarding the SP files, spy
files, anything on MarilynAnderson 1989 to 1990?
She's in the chat and iscurious.
Yeah, no, no, these people mostof these are about Sea Org
members at the Ent Base or inLos Angeles or in some
installation or somebody who'sactively attacking Scientology.

(50:25):
So unless Marilyn was activelyattacking Scientology in the
early 2000s, she will not likelybe in the documents.
Terry Ray, I'm sorry, in theearly 2000s she will not likely
be in the documents.
Terry Ray, I'm sorry, most ofthese documents occur like they
were created in 2006 to 2007,2005, 2004, 2007.

(50:50):
Like, yeah, it could even be asearly as 2000.
So let's say from 2000 to 2007.
That's when most of thesedocuments take place over and

(51:10):
mostly at the base and theOffice of Special Affairs are
the people that are related tothese documents or people that
are attacking Scientology andpeople that Scientology is
attacking.
Kat and Maggie, you can dopolls in the community tab Also.
You should stream more.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
It understaffs the blow drills.
I love it.
That's great.
Thank you, Kat and Maggie.
What a brilliant idea I wouldlove to do more.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
I was working for the past three weeks in another
state and I really it was a lotto just to do the work.
There was no way I could doboth.
And you don't like people.
I get cranky.
Okay, when I do too much I getcranky.
And you guys have seen a videoor two where I'm doing too much
and I'm cranky and everybodylights me up in the comments.
So there you go.

(51:45):
You got to get the.
You know there's a happy mediumto how much I can do, yeah, but
but you know I will say yeah, Iwill say, Kat and Maggie, that
strategy has worked.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
We have used that distraction tactic before of you
know, like something's about tohappen Quick, oh, over here,
over here.
We have done that.
Wouldn't it be funny if we gotto the point where there was
like we had a smoke signal.
So a CRM member wants to jumpthe fence, they put up smoke
signals and every single SPTVnetwork channel goes live all at

(52:15):
the same time on all thedifferent channels.
I would be so amazing.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Yeah, you know we have been.
You guys joke, but that's kindof what we have been doing for a
while now.
We've been like look here onYouTube and in the background
we've been doing all this otherstuff so, and they were looking
over on YouTube and they weredoing all this stuff on YouTube
and they were messing with mycompany and they were doing a
well, while all that was goingon, there was a whole other two

(52:40):
or three other operationsMeanwhile.
They were doing stuff and thoseare bearing fruit in a big, big
way these days.
Says thank you for that, uh,andrew.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
He says captain davy, troll in the hole I gotta say,
andrew, that's, I like it, Ilike it, so cap write that one
down.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
We'll put it on the.
We'll put it on the poll atleast.
Yeah, um, captain davy, trollin the hole um or troll of the
hole troll of the hole.
That's a good one too.
You're not supposed to do that.
Clary's supposed to let themdecide I know donna rose if we
sent 1 000 elves to dm, would hesee slash get that?

(53:22):
Oh no, they would just throwthem away.
You can't really send himanything.
It's going to get intercepted.
There's many points of contact,uh, where he would get rid of
that.
But, um, I tell you, we don'tneed to send him one.
He will buy one, or someonewill buy one, so they can see
what it is and they can, youknow, get all the deets on it.
But Still spooning.

(53:44):
They've just been on the deskthe whole time with each other.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
But I'm also had one of the pre-release copies of
your book that they had a signedcopy.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
They have pre-release copies of your book that they
had yeah, a signed copy.
They had a pre-release signedcopy.
In our lawsuit that theyentered into evidence.
This is actually Scientology.
This is not a widely knownthing.
Scientology entered my bookinto evidence as fact.
They use that in their lawsuitthe things in the book.
So they do not deny or claimthat anything in the book

(54:15):
happened.
In fact, they embrace it andthey have agreed that it 100%
did happen.
Michelle Carpenter, can we cando polls in the discord?
We have over 200 people.
Yes, thank you.
I just have to figure out howto get on there.
I'm a I'm an old school guy.
I got to.
I don't know.
I just I even finding the login.
I'm like I don't even know howto get on there.
I'm an old school guy.
I got to.
I don't know Even finding thelogin.

(54:35):
I'm like I don't even know howto get in there.
I don't even know where thedoor is.
Jen W, thank you for the supersticker.
Michelle Carpenter, the podcast.
Another thing I can donotifications on the Discord.
Let's connect, mark.
I DM'd you on there.
Yes, thank you Michelle.
Yeah, I've just got home, okay,la, uh, lethanda says so great

(54:58):
to see the two of you togetheragain.
Always worth staying up allnight for a bfg sp tv.
Your content and attitude isawesome.
Thank you, lethanda.
Thank you lethanda overseaspeople when they stay up, I'm
like I don't.
I.
I kind of get it because I stayup when I watch stuff.
So I'm kind of like if you cando it, you can do it.
John Sadowski.
The cracker liquor cocktail, anempty margarita glass with a

(55:19):
salted rim it's just the salt.
Thank you, john.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Thank you for that, oh my gosh.
Yes, with a chaser of tequila.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
You could see one of my, mr Bills, back there on the
sofa somewhere with all theother little guys.
Thank you for that, john.
Uh, michelle Carpenter again.
Uh question have you everconsidered uploading some really
fun copyright safe movies justfor OSA to get a break?
Um no, not at all.
Um no, they signed up for this,they signed up for this.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
I know, I know, but I they signed up for this.
They signed up for this, I know, I know, but I.
The reason I marked that isbecause it reminded me of when
you got that, when you wereworking in the film division and
you were able, you told me onenight, whatever movies you want
to see, I can get them.
And I was like what no?
And you're like, yeah, justtell me whatever movies you want

(56:12):
.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Oh, I get it.
So, osa, like we would justcomment on the movie and then
Osa would get to watch a movie.
Yes, yes, that's not a bad idea.
You know who could do that isthese new channels, these new
SPTV channels.
You could get some watch time,and it could be all the tom
cruise movies, or it could be no, no, no, no, no on youtube.

(56:33):
Well, whatever, a fun moviethat has somebody in it.
Maybe watch the movies ofpeople that got out of
scientology.
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
They were in, and then do a review of it king of
queens on replay or something?

Speaker 1 (56:46):
king of queens episode recaps nutrition and
beauty.
Jf says I am anex-Scientologist.
I left in 2008.
Congratulations, awesome, thankyou for that.
Nutrition and Beauty, jf.
Good See, that's why we're here2008, probably because of
something we did, who knows?

Speaker 2 (57:06):
I was talking to somebody today and they were
like, yeah, when I was ateenager, then all of a sudden I
was made to sign an agreementsaying that I was no longer
staff, I was just a volunteer.
I'm like, oh yeah, that wasprobably 2009 during our lawsuit
.
And they were like it was.
I'm like, yep, know all aboutthat.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Yeah, scientology had to change their employment
contracts to say that no one isan employee.
Every single person there is avolunteer their employment
contracts to say that no one isan employee.
Every single person there is avolunteer.
Not one single person is avolunteer or an employee, so
that they can't sue them forbeing an employee because we did
not sign those things and thatwas a huge deal in the case.

(57:46):
So you know, that's anotherthing.
People, you know we're we're,you know we're having fun here
on these videos for the mostpart.
Every every once in a while itgets a little serious, um, but
for the most part we're havingfun, we're exposing Scientology,
we're trying to have a goodtime doing it, um, but there has
been all sorts of nonsensethat's gone on in the background
.
And these all these differentlegal cases, even, uh, any legal

(58:17):
case against Scientology is agood legal case because you can
at least take a hit at the damand see okay, there's no crack
there, okay, good, and that weknow there's no crack there.
But if there's a crack and youcan open it up, then other
people will find that crack andthey'll open it up.
And essentially that's what'shappening with a lot of these
lawsuits.
It's trial and error.
People are trying to dodifferent tactics and their

(58:40):
lawyers are trying to dodifferent tactics to defend
those, and Scientology isrunning out of defense
mechanisms based on the truththat's getting out there.
So, yeah, anyway, for all youScientologists that are in there
, um, scientology spendsmillions and millions, tens of
millions of dollars a year umattacking former members and um

(59:02):
fighting lawsuits off and payingthem off.
Um, if they do plan to sue themin the end, if it's going to go
to jury, if it's not a um,what's the difference?
If it's a criminal case and itgoes to jury, scientology is
going to lose.
They've never won a jury trialever in the history of
Scientology.
Um, if it's a civil, the civil,the one where you have to pay

(59:25):
money, that's the one where theyjust, they're done right.
Yeah, they're going to settleout of court.
Yeah, they'll settle Scientology.
If it's going to go to jury,they will settle in the end.
They know they can't win a jurytrial in a civil case.
So the only cases that go to ajury are the criminal cases that
can be prosecuted.
And the more people that comeout of Scientology and go to law

(59:46):
enforcement, the sooner afterthey leave Scientology, the more
chances a lot of these lawsuitshave of working.
The statutes of limitations andthese sort of things tend to
run and expire, and so a lot ofthe causes of actions that
Scientologists, sea Org members,employees, staff members,
mission members, a lot of theclaims or damages that they'd

(01:00:11):
have rights to expire the moreyears that go by.
So that's why Scientology isvery keen on keeping them
brainwashed as long as possibleso that by the time they do come
out of the fog they won't beable to sue them.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Yep, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Rural SD lawyer says do Scientologists realize there
are no orgs in many statesplaces?
What about people who have beenin for decades?
No one wonders about expansion.
Yeah, that is a cognitivedissonance thing in Scientology.
Thank you for that, Rural SDlawyer.
They do.
Actually, every once in a whilesomebody will ask oh, is there
an org over there?
And then there's not.

(01:00:48):
And it is kind of like weirdthat they don't have an org
organization.
When I say org, that meansscientology organization.
Um, if they don't have an orgthen, um, then that's when they
started opening these ideal orgs.
So even here in denver theyhave an ideal organization.
It's always empty.
The only time the parking lot'sfull is if there's a baseball

(01:01:10):
game across the street and theysell tickets to the parking lot
so you can get good parking.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
There's for nothing ideal about it, even not no, it
is an ideal.

Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
All scientology orgs are ideal because they're empty.
They are ideal scientologyorganizations.
The emptier the better, andnearly every single scientology
ideal org, except for maybe theone in Los Angeles, is empty,
and the one in Los Angeles hasgot five people that are doing
courses right now.
It's ridiculous, and somebodywho works at that org it goes in

(01:01:43):
that org.
It's like Mark, come on, youknow there's not a whole five
people over there.
I know there's two, but okay,I'd give them five.
Come on, Denver Stevo says justa reminder.
Mark, it's not Twitter anymore,Now it's X.
As Elon smells like X.
Glad to see you both back incoastal Colorado.
Osa smells like line X.
X equals poo.

(01:02:03):
Okay, thank you, Denver Stevo.
I was not aware of this.
I knew it was going to happenany day.
Now I didn't.
If it's switched today, it'sswitched today.
X.
Long live X.
Now I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Good to see you, denver.
Steve-o, thanks for joining us.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Hi Claire and Mark, love you guys.
Love my SPTV.
Hit that like button yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Hit the like.
Button.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Selena says hit the like button and it you know what
time it is, it's giveaway time.
I'm going to do this one, so,if you guys want here, I'll put
up a banner while we're doingthis too.
As long as we're doing merchand I'll, this'll be a good time
for you to get to the keyboardas well.
Whatever you want, you got tolet me know.
I'm going to switch back overto the live chat here I'm going

(01:02:46):
to.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
I'm going to grab something real quick.
I'm going to jump out and jumpright back in.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Okay, Okay, that's good, it's all good, it's all
good, I like it.
I guess we're going to get somealone time with you guys.
Um, um, yes, zinu is my homeboyand tons of other amazing BFB,
b, bfg, merch can be gotten fromthe blown for good store and
the link is in the description.
And, um, if you guys want merch, if you get picked, you're just

(01:03:14):
going to click on something inthe in the merch there that you
like and then send a link tothat to Claire and and that's
how she sends it back to you.
She just orders it for you andit's, it's yours.
It's some kind of magic thatshe does, I don't know.
So let's do this.
Five, four, three.
Oh wait, it's spinning.
Now I'm going to get a littlechance to catch up here.

(01:03:34):
Um, what's the time?
Okay, okay, yeah, I got tocatch up my um, my chat.
We see we stream yards, got to,uh, stream yard.
There it is Boosh, matt Elliottmerch, hail, Zinu, hoodie, boom
.
Okay, that sounds good.
Matt, you won, you're a winner.
Matt, okay, no matter whatanybody else tells you, you're a

(01:03:56):
winner.
Um, look Claire's back to.
Matt's a winner.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
You're a winner Yay.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
You don't have to yell your book.
You literally blew out 17,000people's ears just then.
Um, some people are trying tohear, they're trying to, like
their spouse might be sleepingnext door in the bed and they're
trying to listen to this realquiet.
Um, anyway, matt, send Clairean email.
He wants a hail Z new hoodie.
You're going to have to sendher a link because there's

(01:04:24):
multiple ones.
And um, just send Claire anemail.
Claire, blown for goodcom.
Uh, matt Elliott, and uh,you're our lucky winner tonight.
Thank you for that and thankyou for everybody else who
played Evangeline's.
Like.
We're fine, claire, take iteasy.
Drama queen over here.
Love Sherlock.
She was not too loud, I youknow to be fair.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
We understand people.
I never talk loud.
I usually get a lot of crap fortalking quietly.
So if I once spoke loud, likewrite it down folks make a diary
entry.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
I have my, my volume turned really loud so that I
talk louder Um, so because Inormally talk louder, so I have
it loud so that I talk lowerinto the mic.
And so when you yelled, yelledit was loud because I have my
mic, my turned up, my audioturned up so that I don't uh,
because I do tend to talk um tooloud on a uh you do I tell you?

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
that all the time she does.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
I'm loud every everywhere we go.
Claire is a beautiful winner bygetting out of that cult.
She is claire's a um, okay.
I'm, um, thank you for thoseguys see.
See, I don't only do superchats.
I put up about 20 othernon-super chats.
Some, some people only do superchats.
I do everything I try to.
I try to get a little bit ofeverything and hummingbird says
love you guys so much I hope youcan buy.

(01:05:45):
I hope I can buy you lunch mynext time in Denver area,
probably December.
Okay, hummingbird, um, I'lltake a lunch.
I'm all good for a lunch.
I love you know.
If you've seen me in person,you know I like a lunch.
Uh, keela mcdonald, kyla, kylamcdonald, kyla, kyla.

(01:06:06):
Goldie knows how many channelsand she is always there,
superwoman, you know what that'sso crazy she really is.
I was over on another channelafter Aaron had done.
Sometimes Aaron will do fivevideos in a day, sometimes
they'll do six, but sometimesthey'll do three or four right
in a row and then I went over tosome other video and she was in

(01:06:27):
there too and I thought, oh, mygoodness, goldie, thank you for
everything you do, goldie.
We love Goldie.
Allison G says question mygoodness.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Goldie.
Thank you for everything you do.
Goldie, we love.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Goldie.
Allison G says question did yousee Reliable Reese on Erin's
channel last night?
I didn't see her last night,but I did see her there the
other day and she had a dog on,the cutest little dog she was on
.
I think it was like a four.
There was four people in thechat when she was on.
Yeah, that was that was Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
I didn't get to watch it yet, but I saw I saw a post
on Facebook that she launchedher channel, Relatable Reese.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
So Awesome, love that , yep.
Oh, here, let me get this.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
Let me just hide that ticker, that BFG, merch ticker
was gone for a while there, therough enough to do.
Somebody said AngelaBernhardhardt said goldie is
actually three people pass it on.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Oh, I've been accusing goldie of being an
android from day one.
You can ask claire 100 Ithought she was a robot and
maybe even a robot spy, becauseshe is so many places and knows
so many things and has so manythings at the ready, like, oh,
you want to know the link tothis?
She's like blinks fired outthere and there's no one person
that could do all that and thenalso have their life.

(01:07:39):
So, yeah, I still think she'san android.
I don't think she's real.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
I think she was made.
I've talked to her in real life, so you have.
Yeah, many times.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Like on the phone.
Yes, she's not an Android.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
She is not an Android , she is a real person.
I've talked to her.
We text all the time.
I've seen a picture of her, soyeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Thank you.
She'll probably read thiscomment, Claire.
Did you ever see COB interactwith outside lawyers?
Does he treat them like chit?
Like everyone else, I said chitwith a C YouTube Shit Shit.
Your answer was yes.
Yes, he does treat them likepoo.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
In fact, he what's his thing?
That he would always say wetell them what to do.
They know we need to like he isa dictator from beginning to
end.
Yeah, yeah, like.
He's a dictator from beginningto end.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
Yeah, yeah, if you are a lawyer and the case is
going well and you're doing theright stuff, it's probably going
to talk to you, just like hetalked to any lawyer.
But if it's going bad and stuffain't going their way, then
he's going to talk to you likeone of the Searig members and
he's going to tell you what timeit is and how it is.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
And he's going to probably use some bad words.
Yeah, and that also applies toif the lawyer did what he said
to do and the end result was bad, then he's even more going to
have a fit, so, yeah, yeah,that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Um, gunnar, thank you for the uh super sticker.
Gunnar or Gunnar.
Thank you for the super sticker, gunnar or Gunnar.
Gunnar Guggs I don't even knowif that's a real name.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
Some people use fake names.
Stephen Britton, why the hellwould they enter your book as
fact?
Because they were essentiallytrying to say it fit their
narrative that certain sectionsof the book, like we, weren't.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
you know like like, at one point we weren't victims.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
They're like you weren't victims.
You were friends with Dave andDave gave you gifts and you know
you had a good.
You know when.
When?
When Dave was being nice, davewas being nice.
When Dave's not being nice,dave's not being nice.
And also yeah, also they didn'tput that in, they weren't
asking, they weren'thighlighting that section of the
book.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
No, no.
And also there was a specificsection where you said that the
only reason you hadn't alreadyescaped many years earlier was
because you were married to me,and they tried to use that to
say see, you could have leftwhenever you wanted.
Yeah, see, you could have leftwhenever you wanted.

(01:10:17):
Yeah, and you know.
That's why the police had toget called, and the only reason
you successfully escaped isbecause some random passerby,
bless their soul, called 9-1-1,and even the police officers had
to call for backup because theyfelt threatened by a number of
gold security guards that werechasing after you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Yeah, I just want to say we have 1400 people in the
chat right now, so kick up that.
Uh like and subscribe buttonguys.
We're trying to get up to40,000 subscribers.
Um, let me just see if we goover here.
Um, pull up.
You can pull up some commentswhile you want.
Uh while you wait there and, uh,anybody and everything that you

(01:10:56):
, uh, you think is going to beworth yet 37,384.
Every time we take over anotherthousand subscribers, we do a
giveaway, no matter if it's liveor not, we, we, somebody in the
comments that says book, orbook or merch or whatever they
want, we will give that awayevery time we take over another
thousand subscribers.
So, and also, if you're gettingthis content in your feed, it's

(01:11:21):
because this is the content youwatch.
It's not necessarily becauseyou're subscribed to our channel
.
So I find a lot of people sayoh, I just thought I assumed I
was subscribed, because I alwaysget your content whenever you
do something.
And that's just because YouTubenow knows that you like the
content, but it won't notify youif we have a video coming out

(01:11:41):
or if we're setting up apremiere, like we're going to do
this Friday or Saturday.
So anyway, get in there and getto the get to the subscriber.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
We should figure out some special celebration when we
hit that 40K subscribers.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
Yeah, that's a good idea.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
We're coming up on our 31st anniversary 31st
wedding anniversary I wasthinking we should do a special
edition where we show clips fromour wedding video at Celebrity
Center.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
Get in the comments.
Let me know if you think thisis wise folks.
This sounds like a whole messof nonsense.
You've got to get in thecomments.
Let me know if you think thisis wise folks.
This sounds like a whole messof nonsense.
Um, you got to get in thecomments.
If you want to see thosepictures, you got to let us know
in the comments, guys, I'm notjust whipping those pictures out
for any old person.
You're gonna have to.
You're gonna have to let usknow.
Um, you see, you hear that inthe audio still.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Yeah, but now it just stopped.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
That's so weird.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
Yeah, it is weird, there it is BTs man the BTs are
in there.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
I put a whole new audio thing in, so it's not that
I don't know.
No, okay, either way, let's seewhat we got in the comments.
Does anybody have any otherquestions or stuff?
I was willing to stay on here alittle bit longer, but we have
run out of questions.

(01:13:01):
Oh, here's one Pisces 101.
Such good content when gettingout of a toxic relationship.
In-laws can sometimes be acult-like structure.
Yeah, you know anything that is.
You know, I was thinking aboutthis the other day because you
know I'm in like three othercults besides Scientology.
I'm in the.
I like collect memorabilia fora band that I listen to a lot,

(01:13:21):
so I have a lot of their stuffand if you don't know which band
pay close attention people.
There's a cabinet behind methat's got a few records or so
in it.
But, um, but these people that,uh, that do this, we are our
own little group of people andwe know other people that do
that and, uh, you know, there'seven a convention that happens

(01:13:43):
every year in Los Angeles whereeverybody who sells collections
and items they put in there, but, um, you know, if you're in a
group that doesn't let you dowhat you want to do and they
tell you what you have to do,well, that might be a cult that
you don't want to be part of.

(01:14:03):
If they're making you do stuffthat you don't want to do and
you can't just leave if you want.
Um, and so, yeah, I knowthere's people that watch the
channel because they got out ofa bad relationship or they were
in another cult.
So, anyway, um, I'm looking inthe comments here.
Guys, thanks for that question.
Um, claire wins again.

(01:14:23):
Mark should show betterpictures.
Mark should know betterpictures.
Yeah, there you go.
Um, well, I don't know, we'llsee, see, we'll see.
Lindsay.
Lindsay 61.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
But it is an amazing story.
Like for for context, we weremarried at Celebrity Center.
It was a CERC ceremony, aScientology ceremony, and the
photographer who took the photoswas a Scientologist.
Photographer who took thephotos was a Scientologist and

(01:14:55):
we never got copies of thoseuntil 25 years later.
Randomly, some person that wasan under the radar person
happened to come into possessionof them and sent us negatives.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
Yes, yeah, it's so bizarre to me.
I still don't understand thestory.
Um, the person who took thepictures the Scientology
photographer that took thepictures, as far as I know, she
passed away and somehow thenegatives her negatives ended up
with another person and somehowthat person looked at the
negatives and recognized peoplefrom 20 years ago in those

(01:15:30):
pictures and then knew exactlywhere to send them.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
And not only that, knew how to contact us.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
I mean, it's like that's what I'm saying.
They knew exactly where to sendthem.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
So crazy.
And then and then, even ourwedding video.
Um, that was one of the fewthings that they never gave to
us.
Scientology never gave to us.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
We had, we did have in our possession.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
We had a copy of our of the video of our wedding and
three months after we escapedthey which is a whole other
story for another day they gaveus everything.
Basically, they loaded it allinto a Penske truck and gave it
to Mark.
But one of the only things thatthey never gave us was our
wedding video and my stepgrandma, when she passed away,

(01:16:14):
one of the family members wasgoing through all of her
belongings and, wouldn't youknow it, somehow, randomly, my
mother had sent my step grandmaa copy of our wedding video.
So again, after 30 years, wegot it back.
So it's kind of amazing.
Yeah, Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
Okay, here's a good question from Shannon Royce.
Shannon says question.
You were saying that size don'tdrink, but I recall Janice
saying that LRH would drinkglasses of rum.
So is no drinking a newer thing?
Well, no, in Scientology.
Thank you for that, shannon.
That's a great question.
Scientologists can drink, butif you are a good Scientologist,

(01:16:57):
like a rule followerScientologist, then you're not
supposed to do any drinking ordrugs within 24 hours of going
on doing Scientology study ordoing Scientology counseling.
So if so, that really meansthat you can only drink on like

(01:17:19):
Friday night because but this.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
But she's asking about Hubbard.
Well, I know it was a do as Isay, not as I do, kind of a
person.
You have to factor that in.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
Yeah, he wasn't getting any counseling or doing
any studying.
He was writing the nonsensethey were studying, so he could
drink whenever he wanted.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
I mean, why do we think there were drugs in his
system, on his you know deathcertificate?
Come on now.
Or his, whatever it was.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
Yeah, so Scientologists can drink.
The rule follower ones don't doso.
Generally they may have a drinksocially on the weekend or
something like that, but usuallyduring the week, um, they do
not imbibe and, uh, they in mostscientologists would not.
You're not allowed to smoke, um, you're not allowed to smoke

(01:18:03):
marijuana or you know any ofthat kind of stuff.
You can smoke cigarettes.
They smoke cigarettes likethey're going out of style, um,
but they don't smoke anythingother than cigarettes.
Usually, most the rulefollowers for certainly not do
not do that.
Yeah, I got mind wiped.
Now Somebody was that questionreminded me of something else,
and now it's totally gone.

(01:18:25):
I was going to say something Did.
Oops, casey, there we go.
Casey question Did some itemsget removed from the merch shop?
I thought there was a mug witha cracker, sptv on one side and
SPTV crew on the other side.
I can't find it now.
Yeah, we added so many newthings that some merch that was
in other stores I took it out ofour store so if you wanted it

(01:18:48):
you could go to somebody else'sstore.
So there are, there was so manythings in there that if it was
a low seller or somebody elsehad it in their store, I just
took it out to make room forother stuff.
Yep, fancy pants says of coursewe want to see the wedding pics
fancy pants.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
I love the name fancy pants rn.
I love it wedding pics.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
Please hit the like people.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Yay, come, come on, now it's so funny because anyway
, whatever those pictures weretaken, a very long time ago and
it's funny that it's like ourwedding was like a munchkin
wedding, like other than theminister, because it was you and
me.
Obviously, your sister was mymaid of honor and she was the

(01:19:30):
same age as me.
Your younger brother was yourbest man and he was like what
eight.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
And then my sister.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
And I hadn't seen him in like seven years.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
Yeah, and then my younger sisters were our
bridesmaids and my youngerbrother was our was the ring
bearer.
Anyway, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
Matt Elliott.
Again.
Matt says question are theystill harassing your customers?
You know, if they are, mycustomers aren't telling me
about it.
I think, whatever the wave theysent out, a lot of the
customers wrote in or called orwhatever.
We had a good laugh over it.
Or they said next time.
You know, they sent a pictureof me passed out on Hollywood

(01:20:15):
Boulevard.
That's what they sent to mycustomers.
So a bunch of my customers likedude, the next time you're in
town, I want to.
I want to meet that dude.
Okay, not the dude that's beencoming, I want to meet the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
They're still doing it to my customers too.
But you know, whatever we'regoing to keep on keeping on, it
is what it is Rick Dyer.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Thank you for this super sticker, rick.
Audrey, you remained awonderful team of spouses.
Thank you, congrats.
Yes, thank you for that, audrey.
We appreciate it.
Thank you, yeah, no, the thingthat I was thinking about was
you were saying L Ron Hubbard.
There's 100% chance that L RonHubbard was either doing drugs

(01:20:59):
or drinking when he wrote a lotof the stuff that he wrote in
his later years.
Oh yeah, or he was heavilymedicated at the time.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
Oh, totally Mission Earth.
Most of it is literally like no, Mission Earth is space porn.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
I don't know if anybody knows that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
That's exactly what Mission Earth is.
You nailed it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
L Ron Hubbard wrote space porn.

Speaker 2 (01:21:22):
There's an old guy, sultan Grease who?

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
No, no, no, you don't have to say anything, claire.
You are the demonetized king ofthe universe.
I said it.
If anybody wants to find outwhat L Ron Hubbard wrote about,
just go get a Mission Earth fromsomewhere.
Go to the secondhand store.
You can read Mission Earth.
That's what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
I just said somebody's name.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
Oh, I know, but that guy did all kinds of things that
we don't want to hear about onthis channel.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
I wasn't going to say it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:48):
Anyway, he has characters in his stories that
there's videos of on theinternet right now.
You can go watch them.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
You don't have to read the name was teeny whopper
like yeah oh, my goodness.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
Anyway, that's what I was worried.
If that's exactly the one I wasworried you were going to talk
about, it's a name I know, don't, we don't remember anyway.
So l Ron Hubbard was writingthat, and this is the best part.
L Ron Hubbard was writing allthat space porn.
He didn't write OT 9 and 10 forScientology.
He didn't write any of theother OT levels, but he did

(01:22:23):
write the space porn.
So it's the funny thing is thatthey don't have Scientology,
the upper levels.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
Yeah, he didn't get to that target on his battle
plan.
He was able to write crazy,crazy, crazy science fiction.
He just couldn't.
Like you know, the OT levels gofrom 1 to what.
Was it 15?
15, it goes to 15.
And he only did up to 8.
And even 8 is questionable.
Whatever you know, he wasprobably he phoned.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
He phoned it in on eight too.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
Yeah, he did.

Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
Or they made up, or they made up eight.
That's another good possibility.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
They may or may not have correctly interpreted his
notes.
We don't really know.
Um, yeah, so okay.

Speaker 1 (01:23:10):
Okay, back to the thing.
Here.
We're going to do a, we'regoing to do a few more questions
and then we'll do one lastgiveaway and then we're out.
Pamela Crawford, have you hadyour house swept for listening
devices?
Pamela?
We, actually, we have.
Thank you for asking us.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
I have a little scanner.

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
You know what I was going to say to that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:33):
I was like there's nothing I'm saying that anyone's
going to care about.
I mean, oh, if they had mics inour houses they would have a
field day, but it wouldn't beanything more than picked, like
the pictures of animals.
I was just like I'm just doingnormal.
Just doing normal human stuff.
You know everything, everythingthat humans do.
I do that, we do that.
That's what we like to do overhere, human stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
Hilton, fap, aka CEO CEO Bill, cob CEO, bill traffic.
Yes, you know, it's funny thatyou say that, but that is one of
the things.
In our little cipher is thattraffic is anything where either
L Ron Hubbard or DavidMiscavige wrote to somebody.

(01:24:10):
So if you, if somebody said, doyou know anything about this
property from 30 years ago, thatL Ron Hubbard you can say, oh,
there's some traffic on thatfrom LRH, where he talked about
that, or vice versa, oh, yeah,there's some traffic from COB,
where he talked about this.
That's how COB members talk.
They say do you have anytraffic on this, or even have

(01:24:32):
you answered any of your traffic?
Or do you have things that needto go into the daily traffic to
COB, like if you have a report?
Oh, that's another thing thatwe should.
Actually I've got to write thisin there.
So a lot of these things thatare being reported up to Dave,
everybody is siloed inScientology.
So OSA is a silo, um, cst is asilo, um see, uh, what's the

(01:25:01):
other one?
Asi is a silo.
So these are all their ownlittle organizations and
somebody there at each majorlike data silo in Scientology,
someone is responsible forreporting up everything that
happened under their purview.
So anything that happened inthe world of ASI or any ongoing
projects or any new ASI isauthored services.

(01:25:24):
Author services it's theliterary agent for L Ron Hubbard
.
So they're the ones that arereleasing books and doing
writers of the future contestsand all this sort of front group
nonsense.
They are reporting up daily toDavid Miscavige of all the
things that are happening, andso is the Church of Spiritual
Technology, cst.

(01:25:44):
Those are the ones that puteverything on stainless steel
plates and dig the bunkers inthe side of the mountainsides
and seal all of L Ron Hubbard'swritings in titanium capsules
with argon gas and all this sortof nonsense Anything that's
happening and the solar-poweredcassette tapes Solar yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
Because, gosh for goodness gracious if the entire
Earth had been destroyed.
You must listen to all of ourlectures.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
There's no cassette tapes, babe.
They're records, they're goldrecords.
It's a solar-powered recordplayer.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
Records.

Speaker 1 (01:26:20):
you say they couldn't put a device in there that just
has all the files on one, likean iPad.
Just put an iPad in there andput it in a.
What do you call those thingswith those coolers everybody's
using?

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
Yeah, and the funny part is, if you didn't crank it
at the exact right speed, itdidn't sound like L Ron Hubbard
anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:26:45):
Oh my God.
Anyway, those guys are writinga report to L Ron Hubbard or to
David Miscavige each day.
In the old days it was L RonHubbard, now it's David
Miscavige.
So almost all of these filesthat we have about OSA are the
daily, are a lot of these thingsthat they just be reporting up
daily anyway, and you can see,this is how he manages.
All of scientology is thesedistilled reports, and everybody

(01:27:07):
who's writing these reports islike they want to give him, like
they're the little baby birdsthey just wanted to feed him.
They just want david miscavigeto drop a little worm in their
mouth.
So they're all giving him thebest reports that they can give
him and and they're leaving outthe stuff they don't want to
tell him because they know he'sgoing to send a rocket down and
so, um, anyway, it's really fun,guys.

(01:27:29):
I don't even know how we gotinto that.
Um thank you, Rick.
I think I already showed thatfrom Rick Zinu um Zinu's beast
mode Don't want to be there,Can't do what I want, Always
told what to do.
I think I work at a cult.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
Oh, we're sorry, we can relate.
Zinu's beast mode, we cantotally relate.
We know what that feels like.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
Yeah, If you're, if you, um, if you, if you don't
want to be at your job, that's awhole other conversation.
But if you're in a group ofpeople that you got to meet up
with and you got to talk to andyou don't like them and they
want you to do things you don'tlike, that's the group I'm
talking about.
Work is work.
I love what I do, so I can'tsay I'm in that camp.

(01:28:16):
Marilyn Honick happy earlyanniversary, Mark and Claire.
Duncan and I will be married 26years tomorrow.
Congratulations, Marilyn andDuncan.
Cheers to marriages that cansurvive cults.
Yeah, that's not a, it is also.
Thank you for that, Marilyn.
Congratulations to you guys.
26 years is a long time.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
We got you done.
Beat Marilyn.

Speaker 1 (01:28:37):
Well, yeah, but also yeah, Okay, thank you, thank you
, thank you.
We also didn't see each otherfor several years at a time, so
that kind of makes it like itkind of stretches it out.
And yeah, people say, you weregone for three weeks.
He was like yeah, claire wasgone for two years one time.
Okay, two years.
So, three weeks is not a lot.

(01:28:58):
Three weeks is a long time.
For me it was actually two anda half, and even then I could
not wait to get home.
Um, jk in toronto says best spcouple loving the shelly series.
Claire and mark always makes melaugh.
Great work with great humor,yeah thank you, jk in toronto.
Thank you, that's very generouseven for toronto standards.
Uh, that's a lot of canadiandough sent our way.
Thank you you for that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
And hey, shout out to Liz Ferris in the chat.
Hey, Liz, thanks for joining us.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
Oh good Awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
Liz is in there.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
If I see one, fly by.
I'll highlight it, or you canstar one.
If you see one that you thinkwould be good.
It's not that common to bemarried in Scientology, escape
Scientology and then stay withthat person.
That is very uncommon,especially in the C organization
.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
Yeah, that's like having two marriages, one in the
Sea Org and one out of the SeaOrg.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
That's exactly what it is.
It's a nod on the head.
Alexandra Champagne questionWould you consider a special
episode only on the aftermathfoundation action, since it
begins your best cases perhaps?
Well, that's the thing,alexander.
A lot of the people that we'vehelped, um, if they want to tell
their story, then they.
They've told it.

(01:30:08):
For the most part they've beengone on other channels or
they've done something.
There's some people that we'vehelped and they're not
necessarily, and a lot of thepeople that we're helping we
don't want to do a show withthem.
We don't want to.
It's not.
That's not the time.
That's not the time to be doingYouTube videos.

(01:30:29):
That's the time where your lifeis.
There's a major sea changehappening in your life and you
are not prepared for that.
In most cases, especially ifyou were a Sea Org member from
when you were young to old,you've never operated in the
real world.
You don't need to be worryingabout videos.

Speaker 2 (01:30:50):
Yeah, for the Aftermath Foundation to help
somebody, that they speak out,because in most cases the person
has to be ready to do thatthemselves on their own terms,
and we will never require thatof somebody.
It's just not.
You know, it's a very personaldecision to speak out.

(01:31:11):
It's not for everybody and wedon't judge people for any of
that.

Speaker 1 (01:31:15):
So yes, exactly.
Anyway, so we're.
The video we're doing is avideo that the person that we
helped would never have puttogether, but we thought that it
was a very um, we thought thatit was a very touching story and
because we've worked on it for,like I said, over a decade, we

(01:31:37):
thought that it would be a verygood way to show a very isolated
case that needed specialattention and it couldn't be
done with just the AftermathFoundation.
So we teamed up with otherpeople and this is a result of
that and if that can get theword out for the Aftermath
Foundation, then we think it wasworth doing and we think you're

(01:32:01):
going to love the video and wecan want every when we get it
out.
We're going to everyone's gotto share it and tweet it and,
you know, send it to your peoplethat you they're like what are
you watching?
Oh, watch this, it's reallycool.
Caroline Wilson says doesn't,davey, finding out and
contacting your clientsconstitute stalking?
We think so.
Yes, we think that is crossingthe line of the formal, formal

(01:32:23):
cult.
Uh, uh, scope.
We think they're limited intheir scope.
Um, cranky scientists, we arenormal human beings doing normal
human stuff.
Dude, now you sound like analien.
That is right, cr crankyscientist.
We are normal humans doingnormal human stuff.
Please do not bother us.
Sweet and salty, what is a COB?

(01:32:43):
A COB is a chairman of theboard, and that is what we refer
to in these spy-fied documents.
That is, they're referring toDavey Miscavige, captain Davey
Miscavige, the chairman of theboard religious technology
center, or has he's generallyknown as, within Scientology,
cobrtc.

Speaker 2 (01:33:04):
Check your local Yelp reviews.
We do not recommend interactingwith this person.

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
Yeah, watching says it must've been mission earth
that threw away and discussedyears ago.
I didn't know who Hubbard was,but the book was, so I need a
shower nasty that I didn't wantto finish it.
That's what I'm telling you.
Nobody ever talks about this.
I didn't know who hubbard was,but the book was, so I need a
shower nasty that I didn't wantto finish it.
That's what I'm telling you.
Nobody ever talks about this.
I don't know why, when I was inthe c org and I was reading
because you in the sea or gearencouraged if you're going to
read anything you got to read lron hubbard things and I I

(01:33:34):
picked up a mission earth and Iwas going through it and I was
like this is insane.
Like this guy that wroteScientology wrote this nonsense.
I'm telling you guys, somebodyhas got to do some videos on it.
I would love to, but I I waseven thinking of getting like
loading them into um.

(01:33:55):
If somebody wants to do this,you can do it.
I'm never going to get to it Ifyou take, uh, the text of one
of these Hubbard books and justput it into AI and have the AI
read it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
Start with mission earth, volume four.
That is absolutely the mostdisgusting thing.

Speaker 1 (01:34:10):
Oh, that's more worse than the other ones.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
That is hands down Like.
I read it when I was 13 yearsold and I cannot believe my
parents.
Let me read it.
It was really bad, so bad.

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
I will not say another word because Claire's
saying a mission earth, volumefour.
There's 10 volumes of mission Ihave.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
Anyone who knows me knows I have a really good
memory.
I could start rattling offcharacters and things that
happened.
No problem, and I'm not goingto cause you're going to give me
that.
Look again.
It's really bad.

Speaker 1 (01:34:41):
Okay, good, cap mission or volume four.
All you internet sleuths, getin, the, get in there and find
something.
And, and, um, I, I guaranteeyou whatever sentences you find
that are worthy, clip them, readthem and clip them and that'll
be a good video.
People are going to go what theheck?
Captain Davey Tiny Whopper?
Captain Davey Tiny Whopper, Idon't know, that's not a bad one

(01:35:05):
.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
I still like Captain Davey, Troll of the Hole.

Speaker 1 (01:35:11):
Yeah, that's not a bad one, colette.
Hope this makes your day.
My mom, who only looks atChristian links on Facebook, got
a link on her feed about ShellyMiscavige being missing.
The news is reaching far andwide.
Yes, they were talking about iton a religious show, about the
whole where's Shelly thing.
It's all over the place.
I had no idea, liz Ferris,hello, hello Liz, Thanks for

(01:35:35):
joining us.

Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
We love you Liz.

Speaker 1 (01:35:37):
Liz is doing so great .

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
We're so grateful you reached out to us.
Liz, you have no idea.

Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
Yeah, blackmail, blackmail, do you think?
Oh, that's blackmail.
Okay, thank you, from Mexico, Iguess.
Do you think Scientologyteachings help you to be this
successful, because many of youare doing really good.
I admire all you do.
Keep going, um, I have a goodanswer to that yeah, go ahead
that.
Hopefully it's the same, mysame answer no, so I've.

Speaker 2 (01:36:03):
I've had actually many conversations with some
very good friends of ours overthe years about this and I used
to think that like, oh, we were,you know, trained from a very
young age to work really longhours and work really hard.
But the fact of the matter isto me now, in all of our
experiences I would say, thecatalyst of leaving that and

(01:36:25):
having to start our lives overagain is what drove me
personally to be to workincredibly hard and to to be
successful at what I do,starting from absolutely nothing
, nothing like, not even a highschool diploma.
So I will say that you know, wejust go, you start.

(01:36:46):
If you're starting your lifeover and you were in a really
shitty situation, there's reallynothing you can't do really
well at and work really hard at,and when it's your own every
day, as your own freedom ofchoice to do whatever you want,
then the sky's the limit, really.

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
Good answer.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
Yeah, Thanks honey.

Speaker 1 (01:37:07):
Yeah, I think people, when people ask me, I just tell
them you know, when you'retraining these fighters, when
they're training like UFCfighters, when they're training
for a fight, they go in thewater and they carry rocks Like
at the beach.
They go like just in the like10 feet into the ocean and they
carry rocks and they put weightbelts on and they do that.

(01:37:29):
If you're operating in life andScientology's in your life,
they're like a hundred pounds ofweight on you and they're with
you always and when you get ridof that weight.
It's amazing how much you alwaysand when you get rid of that
weight.
It's amazing how much you cando when you don't have that all
that just weighing on you yep um, captain davy, tob, troll of

(01:37:50):
the board.
Oh, that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
Oh, that's so good, kimberly.
Kimberly, you knocked it out ofthe park, tob.

Speaker 1 (01:38:00):
Good on that one.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
Oh my gosh, Troll of the Troll of the oh my gosh.
That's why I love this amazingcommunity.

Speaker 1 (01:38:07):
Kimberly.
Thank you for that.
I appreciate it.
Lori Place says all of you havean incredibly great worth
ethics.
But it's not Scientology.
Teaching it's being driven likeslaves.
It doesn't hurt that we wereworking Well.
Teaching it's being driven likeslaves.
It doesn't hurt that we wereworking Well.
That's the other thing.
Imagine now, imagine workingWell.
I mean some some days I'm not,it wasn't always for sure we

(01:38:34):
worked.
I want to say a normal day wasa 16 to 18 hour day.
That's just a normal day 16 to18 hours.
There were a lot of 20 hourdays and there was a lot of 24
hour days.
But if you're working 18 hourdays or 16 hour days and then
you have that weight on you andthen you go out like sometimes
when we don't work, like if wedon't work till dinner time,
we're like phoning it in.
You know what I'm saying?

(01:38:54):
Like if we cut out like at4.30,.

Speaker 2 (01:38:56):
It's likeI I'm gonna leave a half an hour early today
happy hour somewhere, folksright just like I love that we
have that freedom to, and I Ihave even more, so I work from
home.

Speaker 1 (01:39:08):
So yeah, we're both our bosses.

Speaker 2 (01:39:11):
Where I'm sitting is where I work day in and day out.
But I was gonna say do you everremember because I remember
this distinctly sometimes havingit like life was so bad that
the only relief, the onlymomentary relief, would be in
the few and the hour here orthere that I was asleep?

(01:39:34):
Did you hear that?

Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
That's true, yeah, sleeping was yeah.
Did you hear that?
That's true, yeah, sleeping wasyeah, anytime a nap you could
get a nap.
Or if even you know, I did nothave trouble problem sleeping
when I was there, that's forsure.
Exhaustion is always a good uhsleep aid.
Um.
John satowski says captaindirty davy doll, that is so good
, captain dirty dav Doll, Ireally like that one.

(01:40:00):
The C triple D.

Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
C, triple D.

Speaker 1 (01:40:05):
C, triple D, it just rolls off the tongue.
Captain Dirty Davy Doll.
If you'd like to order yourCaptain Dirty Davy Doll, I don't
know that's a.
I don't know.
I don't want to jump toconclusions because the next one
could be even better.
Stephen Britton says what wasDavey's daily uniform when at

(01:40:25):
Int.
You know that's a greatquestion, stephen.
Thank you for that.
Dave would wear, for in the 90she would wear a Sea Org uniform
like everybody else did, andthis was a normal thing.
He had his Sea Org uniform likeeverybody else did, and this
was a normal thing.
He had his Sea Org uniform.

(01:40:45):
Rtc had their own kind of nicerthan everybody else uniforms,
but they were still.
They looked very, very similarto everyone else's uniforms.

Speaker 2 (01:40:51):
Yeah, they were the same color shirts.
They were just made out ofEgyptian cotton, kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:40:55):
Yeah they were the same color scheme, just not made
from the trash.
Our poor outfits were made from.
When you're in RTC, you're notone of the poors.
Any other part of the Corganization besides like CST,
asi, cst and RTC, they were thevery top.
A little bit of theinternational management guys

(01:41:16):
like Watchdog Committee and CMO,a little bit of them would have
nice stuff, but then below thatit was trash.
Um is sometimes had nice stuff,but uh, yeah, uh.
And then in the mid 90s, late90s, he got a hair up his
backside and he didn't want towear the same uniform as us and
rtc had all their uniformsredesigned in the 90s.

Speaker 2 (01:41:39):
To be like police black, all black.

Speaker 1 (01:41:42):
Yeah, because Religious Technology Center is
the police organization ofScientology.
That is what L Ron Hubbardstated.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
They are the police, it's the Inspector General
Network.

Speaker 1 (01:41:52):
Yeah, so RTC and a lot of people don't actually
understand that David Miscavigeis the head of the Scientology
Stasi.
He is the head of the Stasi inScientology, so he is the head
of Scientology, but he's alsothe head of the Scientology
Police Organization as well.

(01:42:12):
So if he doesn't get you comingin this way, he'll get you
going out this way.
He's going to deal with you oneway or the other and you're
going to be in his uh, in hissights.
But, um, so it became a thingwhere we would wear Sea Org
uniforms every day of the week,except for Saturday when we

(01:42:32):
would do the renovations at theproperty, and on that day we'd
wear what was called civvies orcivilian clothes, and on that
day David Miscavige would wearhis Sea Org uniform.
But every other day of the weekDavid Miscavige would wear
civilian clothes.
So if he was at the base, hewas always wearing civilian

(01:42:54):
clothes, except for on Saturday,when everyone else was wearing
their Sea Org uniforms duringthe week.
And then on Saturday we wearcivilian wearing their Sea Org
uniforms during the week, andthen on Saturday we wear
civilian clothes.
Then he would change into hisSea Org uniform.
It was the weirdest thing.
And then in the later days hejust did whatever he wanted
whenever he wanted.
So I don't know what he doesthese days, but he has very

(01:43:17):
tailored.
All his stuff is super tailored.
It fits tight and shows off hismuscles, and all that good
stuff muscles.
You said muscles.
Um, stephanie sandoval sayslove you guys, thank you,
stephanie, we love you too.
Um, the gestapo also wear black.
Yeah, gestapo, stasi, whateveryou want to call.
Rtc is lauren, thank you forthe super sticker.
Oh no, whoa, that's so weird.

(01:43:37):
Oh, it's below it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:38):
When is he going to be interviewed?
We would love to see her on theother side of the video.
I completely agree.
Goldie has an open invite.
She knows how to reach me.
I've thrown it out there.
I am ready when she is.

Speaker 1 (01:43:50):
Okay, there you go, goldie.
If you want to hear from Goldie, then tell Goldie.

Speaker 2 (01:43:54):
Tell Goldie.

Speaker 1 (01:43:55):
Goldie knows I've told her.
Yep, let's see.
Nate Miniatures, mark wouldlove to see you and Relatable
Reese banter.
You both crack me up.
I would love to see someone getan LRH record and do some rap
scratching.
Oh, that's such a great idea.
I don't know if we're evergoing to see one of those gold
records.
We're going to have to have anapocalyptic event in order to

(01:44:17):
get our access to those, becausethat's another thing.
When those bases, when the endof the world happens, those
bases are supposed to be whereScientology can be restarted
from.
So there's multiple bases incase a bunch are destroyed.
Hopefully one or more will makeit.
And then, when you get there,I'm not sure exactly how we're
supposed to get into that thing.

Speaker 2 (01:44:37):
Maybe they left, leaving instructions for me,
you're not supposed to ask toomany questions.

Speaker 1 (01:44:42):
I know, I know where all of them are and I've been to
them as well.
So I've even been to the one inNew Mexico and Tremontina.

Speaker 2 (01:44:50):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1 (01:44:50):
Middle of nowhere in the middle of the desert.

Speaker 2 (01:44:52):
Didn't you go there with John Sweeney, with?

Speaker 1 (01:44:54):
John Sweeney.

Speaker 2 (01:44:55):
Book of Fear.

Speaker 1 (01:44:56):
Read Book of Fear by John Sweeney.
If you want to hear about themarket, john, go to the in the
middle of the desert, to asecret Scientology compound.
There's actually a video, theBook of Fear trailer I videoed
for John Sweeney, and that'sanother thing.
I should pull out that footage.

Speaker 2 (01:45:13):
You totally should.

Speaker 1 (01:45:13):
That was crazy, crazy footage Two days of footage
from that trip somewhere on anarchive drive.
Anyway, thanks for that.
Whoever asked about that orsaid something.
Second ever super chat.
Sent one to Aaron for searchRock on.
Thank you, judy Cutter, one weappreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:30):
Thank you, Judy.

Speaker 1 (01:45:31):
Cutter One Rock on to you too.
Biggish Ann Hummingbird saysBiggest accomplishment is
recovering from a significantstroke.
Yikes, yeah, if you could dothat then, uh, maybe Colt is a.
Colt is a is a Tuesday.
Um, okay, I think we're, uh,we're almost at 1500 people in

(01:45:54):
here right now.
Thank you, guys.
I think I'm.
I think I'm itching to doanother giveaway.
Um, I'm going to hit a few morequestions and then we'll do a
giveaway.
Yeah, we'll do another giveaway.
I love giveaways.
I've been gone, I've been outof the tube for like three weeks
.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
So I had you know it's been so, so lonely here
without you, honey oh mygoodness, oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (01:46:11):
Um, what is that?
The what?
What the uk question?
The uk government is being suedby groups that say they are
religions.
Scientology is one.
Okay, well, scientology shouldnot be suing anybody.
Um, they're the ones that needto get the suing.
Um, okay, if you say so, I Idon't know about this, but, uh,

(01:46:35):
anybody in the uk from the uk inhere?
Um, let me know.
Yep, diana left the COS withouttheir approval.
You should buy Mark's book.
Yeah, diana, whoever you are Isat.
Diana left the Church ofScientology without that you
should buy Mark's book.
Okay, I guess.
I mean, I don't know, I don'tknow what's, I don't know.

(01:46:57):
Someone's in here.
Bfg, yeah, bfg, yeah.
Bfg loves DM.
Yeah, depeche Mode, not DavidMiscavige.
What else do we got?
Of course there is a lot ofpeople in here today.
Yeah, 1,500.
We're up to 1,500 guys in there.
It's time for the giveaway.

Speaker 2 (01:47:16):
Don't leave me behind .

Speaker 1 (01:47:17):
Let's do a giveaway and then we're tapping out.
Okay, so I'm catching up to allthe comments here.
Whatever you guys want Bookmerch, whatever you need,
whatever you want Get in therein the chat and tell me what you
want, what you really reallywant Wait a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:47:38):
Stop it.
You're putting songs in my headand skadoosh selena michelle
that's amazing.
There you go see.
It's always nice when wemanifest regular.
Yeah manifests.

Speaker 1 (01:47:53):
Manifest the merch, manifest the book.
I don't know if that's a thing.
Do people do that?
Do people say, do they saymanifest or they do?
Do they just do the manifesting?
I don't know.
Selena, michelle, you know whatto do.
You know the drill.
Get on the email, get on thehorn, send an email over to
Claire blown for goodcom, lether know you won, and then she

(01:48:25):
will hook, hook you up, yep, yep, yep.
Um, thank you guys, thanks forhaving us, thanks for everybody
who watched till the very end.
Um, if you want to, we'll dothe.
Uh, we'll do all the end stuff.
All copies of blown for goodpurchase through blown for
goodcom will be signed by myselfand claire.
Um, you can also just go rightto the merch store.
Um, xenu is my homeboy.
Hail xenu.
Um, save bob ferris.
Um, where is Save Bob Ferris?
Where is Shelly?

Speaker 2 (01:48:41):
I'm coming tonight, claire Bear.

Speaker 1 (01:48:43):
Claire Bear, merch.
There's all kinds of.
There's t-shirts, there's mugs,there's mouse pads, there's
hats, there's all kinds ofnonsense.
There's stickers.
We sold more.
I think we sold more stickersThan anything else.
The stickers are very popularWith you folks.
But you can get that.
You can also support theAftermath Foundation.
We talked a lot about theAftermath Foundation.

(01:49:04):
There you go.
You can support the AftermathFoundation by going to the
aftermathfoundationorg and youcan also sign up to.
You can donate there or you canactually sign up to be a
volunteer there and we'll putyou on the list.
In case somebody busts out nearyou and we need your help, we
can do it.
And then bobbleheads and SPbracelets can be gotten at the
spshopcom and that is everythingthat's purchased at the

(01:49:28):
spshopcom goes to support theAftermath Foundation.
And there's some bobbleheadsover there and there's some SP
bracelets and we have got a newshipment of bobbleheads Mike
Rinder bobbleheads coming inCause I think we're down to like
the last 30 or 40 that we haveand we got a whole nother
shipment coming in.

Speaker 2 (01:49:45):
You weren't supposed to say that, honey.

Speaker 1 (01:49:47):
It's all good.
It's all good.
Somebody wants a bobblehead.
Order a bobblehead.
I know I just was going downthe list.
I did it.
It's done, I did it.
Let's get this banner off ofhere and then let's close out
this.
Let's close this thing down.
I can't even there we go.
Is that it Okay?
Perfect, yeah, I think we didit.
I think we did another.

Speaker 2 (01:50:08):
We did it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:08):
We're good Thanks guys, we got back in the groove.
Thanks for joining us.
Thanks for joining us onTwitter or YouTube or podcast or
wherever you're listening fromtoday.
Thank you very much.
We will see you next time.
Thanks for watching.
If you'd like to help supportthe channel, feel free to check
out the merch store link in thedescription.
We have Hail Xenu Xenu is myhomeboy and BFG branded mouse

(01:50:29):
pads, shirts, mugs, all sorts ofother stuff in there that helps
us to bring you new content ona regular basis.
You can also pick up a copy ofmy book Blown for Good Behind
the Iron Curtain of Scientologyin hardback, kindle and audible
versions as well.
There's also a link to ourpodcast and you can get that on

(01:50:51):
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Thanks a lot, until next time.

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