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Dolly brings both professional expertise and personal experience to her work, helping clients heal mentally, physically, and spiritually. She empowers people to rediscover joy, purpose, and self-love. In her first book, The Five Self-Love Languages: A Blueprint for Healing Childhood Trauma and Embracing Self-Love as a Lifelong Foundation, Dolly shares transformative insights on how to heal trauma and build a foundation for inner peace and fulfillment.

Dolly, a trauma recovery registered nurse, works with parents to help them overcome past trauma, enabling them to be their best selves for their children and businesses. In her book, she introduces the concept of "self-love languages," focusing on how individuals can deeply love and care for themselves. The first of these self-love languages is "self-attunement," which emphasizes connecting with all parts of yourself—emotions, behaviors, addictions, and inner child—to foster a deeper sense of self-awareness and healing. This self-love is essential for attracting abundance in family life, relationships, and careers.

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(00:00):
Welcome to Caffeinated Chaos,where business deals happen
between diaper changes andfriendships are fueled by
caffeine.
I'm Whitney Uggen, your host,and I'm here to talk all things
business, parenthood, and ofcourse, keeping up with the
BFFs.
Whether you're juggling theboardroom, the playroom, or just
here for some coffee fueledchaos, we've got you covered.

(00:20):
Get ready for real talk, laughs,and a whole lot of heart as we
dive into the beautiful messthat is entrepreneurship,
parenthood, and everything inbetween.
So let's embrace the chaostogether.
Caffeinated, of course.
Today's guest is deeplypassionate about helping others
heal and reclaim their lives.

(00:41):
Dolly is a trauma, is a dolly,is a trauma recovery registered
nurse licensed in California anda holistic mental life.
And a holistic mental healthlife coach.
With over two decades ofexperience guiding individuals
and families through crisis,specializing in childhood trauma
recovery, and codependencyhealing, she integrates a

(01:03):
powerful mix of mod.
Having personally overcomebattles with depression,
anxiety, childhood trauma, andsuppressive systematic
oppression, Dolly brings bothprofessional expertise and a

(01:25):
deep lived experience to herwork.
She has helped hundreds ofclients heal mentally,
physically, and spirituallyempowering.
Empowering them to recover joy,purpose, and self-love.
Now she's here to share hertransformative her.
Now she's here to share.
Now she's here to share herinsights.
In her first book, she's now,she's here to share her insights

(01:49):
from her first book, the FiveSelf-Love Languages, A Blueprint
for Healing Childhood Trauma,and Embracing Self Love as a
Lifelong.
Foundation as a lifelongfoundation for inner peace and
fulfillment.
I am so excited for thisconversation, so let's welcome
Dolly to the podcast.

(02:12):
So welcome to the podcast,Dolly.
I'm so glad that you're here.
We've been talking for a while.
I know.
Listeners.
You don't know this, but me andDolly are actually, I finally
have a guest who's in the sametime zone as me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we totally know like it's themiddle of the day.
It's nice and bright and sunnyhere in California.
And it is nice to actually notbe super early or super late

(02:35):
recording this.
Yay.
So okay.
Introduce yourself.
Tell our listeners a little bitabout you.
Hey everyone.
I am so excited to be on thisbeautiful podcast and talking to
you guys.
I am a parent myself and I helpother parents recover from.
They're past unhealed trauma, sothey can be the best versions of

(03:00):
themselves to their children andto the businesses, which our
business is also our child.
So I'm a trauma recoveryregistered nurse, licensed and
experienced in California, and Ihelp people recover from their
past trauma so they can be thebest business people, best

(03:20):
parents as they're reparentingthemselves.
In this adult life.
And I've written a book, youguys.
It's called The Five Self LoveLanguages.
This book will teach you how toheal your past trauma so you can
live in love with yourself andin love with your life.

(03:41):
So I'm so excited to be herewith Whitney and talk all about
self love and how to reparentyourself while raising your
children and while growing yourbusinesses.
So excited to be here.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm so excited.
So before we dive too far in,because I have questions about
the book, for anyone who is, asyou listen to this is like, I

(04:03):
need this book.
I'm going to put the link in theshow notes.
So you can go ahead and grabthat down below.
Okay.
So we're going to dive into it.
Okay.
So five self love languages.
I, Oh my gosh, my love language.
For me, yeah.
I'm not sure which ones youwrote about in your book for,
but for my love language, likehow my husband like showers me
with stuff is like, I am like atouch person.

(04:26):
Like I love a good massage, youknow, like I like hold my hand
in public.
I am All for that.
What are the five that you talkabout in your book?
So, you know the love languagethat you're mentioning that's a
that's one of the five lovelanguages As in how do you love
other people so you can loveother people by offering them?

(04:48):
Gifts or like you said touch orwords of affirmation But then
these are the five Self lovelanguages, how do you show love,
true, deep, meaningful,unconditional love to yourself
so you can be there for yourselfand become the best version?
So I, let's get into the fivelove language, self love

(05:11):
language.
Yeah.
Give us a little teaser.
What are the five?
So, the first self love languageis self attunement.
And in the book I talk aboutattuning to and being present to
accepting of all parts ofyourself.
So I talk about how to be selfattuned to your addictions, how

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to be present and attuned toyour inner child, how to be self
attuned to the present moment,how to be self attuned to your
behavioral patterns, good andbad, how to be self attuned to
your emotions, right?
There are so many parts of usthat we don't even Tap into and

(05:53):
make connection with, and that'swhy we feel disconnected.
That's why we search for answersoutside because you really
haven't connected to the partsof you that will give you the
answers to, Hey, which directiondo I want to take?
my business to?
What should be my business?
What is my calling?
All those answers really toraise kids, to build businesses,

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to follow and live in yourpurpose.
You really need to be speakingthe five languages of self love
and that when you are so deeply,madly, unconditionally in love
with yourself is what attractsabundance in your family life,
in your relationship.
in your work, career,businesses.

(06:41):
So yeah, just the first selflove language is get to know
yours, all parts of you.
Right.
Yeah.
So, and then offer themcompassion.
So in the book, I talk abouthow, what are the ways you self
attune to your intuition, toyour emotions, your body, right?

(07:02):
In the first step, you're onlyreally getting to know yourself
deeply.
And the second self lovelanguage is self compassion.
Compassion, self compassionmeans you radically accept and
in the book, I teach you thesteps on how to radically accept
all parts of you and then how tooffer compassion to yourself as

(07:26):
you're going through lifebecause life You know has
challenges and people who areraising kids and building
businesses.
That's their daily life they'refacing challenges and failures
and successes But through allthis being so compassionate to
yourself And you know what?

(07:46):
Most people don't know how tooffer compassion to themselves.
They can be compassionatetowards their children.
They can be compassionatetowards other people, but
they're not able to offerthemselves that safe, soft spot,
you know, with withinthemselves.
Yeah.
So that's the second.

(08:07):
That's, that's amazing.
Yeah, because I feel like, youknow, that saying where it's
always like, you're the harshestcritic, right?
However they say it.
But yeah, I feel like, I'm oneway towards my children.
And then I'm like, Oh, my God,Whitney, why did you do that?
I feel like I'm like selftalking myself down sometimes.
Yeah, yeah.
And you're not alone in that.

(08:28):
Mothers are the hardest criticsof their own self.
There's a term, right?
I'm sure you've heard of thatmother's guilt, that toxic guilt
that working moms carry so manytimes because they want to be
there all the time for thechildren, all the time for their
customers, all the time towardsmarriage and relationship.
But when did you take care ofyourself?

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Did you even listen to yourself?
Did you even listen to what'sgoing on the inside?
Or you just said, Oh, I'm allright.
I'm tough.
I got this.
And did you just keep onpushing?
And then sometimes you'll pushyourself past your own limit and
not even recognize the damageyou've done to your own body, to
your own soul.

(09:11):
So that's when self lovelanguages are so important.
So we can stay grounded andconnected in love with ourselves
and offer love and growth fromand service from that place of
self love.
Yeah, I can even tell you thatwith the episodes that we've

(09:32):
released so far, number, oursecond episode was parent guilt
versus business guilt.
And it to this day is still thehighest listened to episode.
So I feel like a lot of people,even though some of them may not
talk about it, a lot of peopleare interested in this because
they feel those guilt and thatpressure to be here.

(09:53):
And there at the same time.
And you really can do it alllike you can be the best mother
and there are women in thisworld who have it all.
They're the best moms do andproviding for their kids, being
there for their children, andalso building business empires.
You know how they pour into thecups of their children and their

(10:14):
employees because their own cupis so full of love, compassion,
grace for themselves.
And that's, yeah, that's the,really the first step into being
successful is having that solidfoundation that no success or
failure defines you, only youdefine yourself in terms of love

(10:40):
and compassion and acceptance ofyour journey.
I feel like a lot of people,when they see these.
People in like media or highperformers and they are like,
how do they do it all?
How does she do it all?
It's because it's not just poor,poor, poor.

(11:00):
They have to make sure that theyfill as they pour, you know?
And Also just understanding thatwhat they see too on social
media is the, curated feed aswell.
So we may only see them doingone thing and we're like, how do
they still do it all?
It's because Yeah.
In the back end, they're takingtime to themselves and they're

(11:24):
doing what you're talking about.
And that's self fulfilling, selfloving your own cup.
And it's not just about takingthe time for yourself, which is
very important.
It's about how you use thattime.
Too poor.
What do you need?
A lot of moms don't even knowwhat they need.
They've suppressed and rejectedand put on the back burner their

(11:46):
own needs for so long thatthey've lost touch with what
really fulfills me.
Is it a bath?
Or is it a prayer?
Is it walk in nature?
Or is it walk with your husband?
Right?
So you really got to knowyourself deep enough to know
what to intuitively know yourneeds and then be bold enough to

(12:10):
fulfill those needs.
And that's the gap that we, Isee a lot with female, with
women entrepreneurs, especiallymothers, that they will nurture
the whole world, but from anempty cup.
And then that's when the burnoutbegins.
That's when the high functioningdepression begins.

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So you can produce a lot on theexternal based on your spirit
and from your soul, but you haveto pour into that soul and have
the tools and the skill set.
I teach the skill set in thisbook exactly what you need to
maintain your, the strength ofyour soul.
Because every entrepreneur, whenthey start this, the journey of

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building a business, it's a soulcalling.
It's something that, that reallydrives them forward and they
give all of themselves to theirchildren and their businesses,
but at what cost, how long areyou going to go if you keep
denying all other parts of youand only uphold the mother's

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role and the worker's role.
And then the third self lovelanguage is self forgiveness
like that is so important on abusiness journey.
And while you're reparentingyourself as you're parenting
your children and nurturing yourbusiness, self forgiveness and

(13:38):
people say that, yeah.
It's important, but then do youknow the steps?
Do you have the tools?
So in the book I lay out all thesteps that you need to do when
you feel the burden that guiltDid I make a mistake?
How am I going to move past thismistake?
So many times things happen andpeople just tell you, oh, it's

(13:59):
okay.
Failures happen.
It's all part of the journey,which is true.
But then if I made a mistake andI'm really repenting and feeling
badly about myself and what Idid, what are the steps?
So in the book, I talk about thesteps that you need to take to
forgive yourself on the daily.

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Because so many times, We dolittle something to ourselves or
something with our children andyou're like, Oh, she should have
done a different, should havemade a different choice.
And then you on because youshoved it under the rug, but
your nervous system and yourbody is really holding on to all
that little guilt, the bigguilt, the toxic guilt.

(14:41):
Yeah.
And that burden will slow youdown on your journey.
So I'm going to just break off alittle bit, but like, can you
tell me what inspired you towrite this book?
So what, what made you be like,this is what I need to get out
in the world.
Yeah.
So it's born out of my ownjourney and experiences of

(15:03):
myself and my clients andpatients.
So I see patients at a localhospital, in mental health and
behavioral health, and I workwith moms.
who have been through the samejourney.
So I'm an entrepreneur myself.
Right now I have the mentalhealth business, but then before
this I had schools and beforethat I had another business.

(15:23):
And entrepreneurship is just inmy blood.
I come from a family ofbusinessmen and women.
And but what I saw also in myown family is work at every
cost, show up for customers andchildren at any cost.
And that cast for me was DarkNight of the Soul, Falling

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Apart.
When I sold my schools rightbefore the pandemic, I was like,
Okay, there's a huge void in mylife without the business.
And then when people's childrengrow up and leave the nest, they
have a huge void and they lookinward and they're like, Oh, I
don't even really know myself.

(16:07):
Wait, I didn't get to know, I'mliving with myself in my body,
but all I am is my thoughts thatare, that run and run on
autopilot.
I didn't even take the time tounderstand anything other than.
You know, put my all into thebusiness, put my all into the
children and now I'm shell of aperson left.

(16:28):
I was burned out.
That's when I went on thisjourney to really get to know
myself and all parts of myself.
And once I got to know all partsof myself, my inner critic was
so harmful.
My inner critic was sojudgmental.
My inner critic was sabotagingme hard.
And the pain of it was, leads todepression, leads to anxiety,

(16:52):
leads to that high functioning.
I was living with highfunctioning depression for such
a long time and I didn't evenrealize it.
So it's really born out of myown journey of healing and
coming together as a, I wouldsay, as a successful human
being.
If I may say so.

(17:13):
You may say so.
Say it louder too.
Just coming, going through whateverybody goes through but
actually putting it, all I didis put words to it.
Because I know there are manywomen who go through it and do
find the answers.
All I did is put it together tohelp other women or moms,

(17:35):
business people who, Who arestruggling with same things, but
very silently because we're suchstrong souls and we're so driven
by our purpose, but you knowwhat?
You're going to be able to do ahundred times more, and I'm not
even kidding a hundred.
You will accomplish a hundredtimes more if you.
Take the time.

(17:56):
And in the book, I tell you whatto do in the morning.
What should you do in theafternoon?
How to check in with yourself,how to soothe yourself.
If a customer is rude, if yourchildren are triggering you, you
don't learn the skillset, justlike you're learning everything
about how you're reading bookson how to raise children the
right way.
And you're consuming content onthat.

(18:17):
You're reading books and goingto business school on how to
build.
an empire.
Look, read this book so you canbe so solid, such a solid
foundation within yourself uponwhich you can create, anything
and everything you, your callingis endless.

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Like you can do so much whenyou're solid in your soul, in
your mind.
So, self attunement to yourbelief system.
and figuring out what beliefsaround money are holding me
back.
Things like that.
Yeah.
So I talk about all that in thebook.
Yeah.
So that's a really long windedanswer to your question.

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It's born out of my owndesperation.
I feel like it's such everythingthat you're talking about.
Like I too, I did 10 years inthe mental health field too.
I worked with adults with,developmental disabilities.
And one thing that I also sawthere too, was all the parents
of the people that I workedwith, they themselves, too, were

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getting super burnt out.
My staff was getting burnt out.
Our turnover rate was so high.
We had some lifers, you know,who had been there for a while,
like me.
But Then, they would have beenthere forever, had we not had to
close because of COVID.
And that really just shut theprogram down.
But there are people who can dothis long term, and then there

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are people who constantly getburnt out, too.
So I feel like the book itself,is just something that many
people, need in their life, evenif They're not quite sure, or
willing to admit it yet.
It's okay to invest in yourselfas much as you invest, like you
said, in the learning of how tomake your business grow, how to
grow your children.

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And, I feel like people needpermission and this is us giving
you permission listeners.
This is your permission.
If you need someone to say that.
to invest in yourself and betteryourself.
So yes, I think you're hittingit like straight on the head,
like with everything that you'retalking about.
And I'm so glad that you like,decided to come on this podcast.

(20:28):
And, yeah, I'm really, reallyexcited that you are here.
Again, I'm just gonna say thatright now.
I'm so excited to be heretalking to you.
Yeah.
When the whole process has beenso, Professional and the intake
and everything.
I was like, Oh, this is a reallygood fit for me, to bring the
word of self love to people whojust love others and give so

(20:52):
much because that's most of youraudience, people who are giving
to children and giving tocorporations or giving to their
own small businesses, so justread rebuild because life
happens, but then we need to domaintenance, think of anything
like a road.
A road is built great, but thenyou need to do maintenance

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because the more, people travelon it, you've got to, you need
to do maintenance.
And then also the past will holdyou back, slow you down,
limiting beliefs of the previousgeneration.
We're so far ahead of.
But then we have the same oldlimiting beliefs about money,
about success, about what youcan accomplish in life.

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So when you do the self loveprogram from the book, and you
can do it yourself, it's writtenfor somebody who has no
background in psychology.
And you will understand, oh,these are all my parts.
This is what gets triggered whenmy child is active.
This is what gets triggered whenmy customer is being
unreasonable.
This is what get triggers when Iput in so much more work but

(22:02):
another person is getting aheadof me without, there's, so in
business there's no real logicsometimes why someone's business
takes off and another person'sdoes not.
So to soothe and nurtureyourself through all these
difficult circumstances andchallenges that we go through.
That re parenting.

(22:23):
So in the book, the third, self,fourth self love language is
self parenting.
Okay.
When you get to know all partsof yourself, and you get to, and
you accept them, you forgive alot of your parts, and then you
start to Reparent yourself,which I call self parenting.

(22:47):
So you self parent that innerchild who maybe has some wound,
so wounded parts inside of you.
You self parent the shame thatcomes up.
So if you failed at something orsomebody called you out.
The shame that comes up, youself parent that, how to
recognize a shame spiral and howto handle that.

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Then I talk about how to self, Igive you steps on how to self
parent your nervous system.
Because that's truly is thedifference between people who
don't get burnt out on, on lifeand businesses and things, and
people who do quickly get burntout.
How much can your nervoussystem.

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Tolerate the discomfort offailure or another person being
unreasonable.
So I teach you how to strengthenyour nervous system so you can
be expansive and present to yourchild when they're falling
apart, that you don't startcrying or start screaming when

(23:50):
your child is, you know.
Which happens like all the time,me too.
I feel like that's so relatable.
Yeah.
Right?
Like when your children are justacting out, you just feel so
helpless, so powerless.
But if you've done the work tosit in that, Discomfort, then
you'll be able to take the nextstep with your child or show

(24:13):
your customer because customerswill act like children as well.
Sometimes, yeah.
Yep.
So how do you self parentthrough the triggers and the
trauma responses.
That's what I teach in thisbook.
How to handle fear or anger.
You know, fear and anger are twothings that come up so much on

(24:36):
your healing journey becausewhen you're raising children,
fear comes up a lot.
When you're building a business,fear comes up a lot.
So how do you work with yourfear and take those courageous,
emotionally mature stepsforward?
Okay, because I love actionablesteps.

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Like we are all about actionablesteps here.
What would you say is a goodkind of like a first step or a
starting step for our listenersto take, if they're like really
feeling moved by all this?
Well, get the book.
Yeah, obviously, that one.
Okay, so a second step.
Get the book and start readingit from page one.

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It's just laid out, it kind ofbuilds on itself, and you will
get more and more intimate withyourself, and you will find
intimacy with your pain.
And you will find intimacy withyour strengths and your
weaknesses.
So it's a process and you willbuild your emotional landscape

(25:37):
as you read the book.
And then in the book you willsee the first step really is to
Go inward and I hold your handin the book.
I say, I'm here with you as yourmentor and guide.
So you go inward and really getto know your inner child.
What happened?
What was not okay with me?

(25:59):
What did I do?
What are my reactions today?
So there's all these behavioralpatterns that I talk about, in
the book.
And do you see yourself in thosebehaviors and what to do about
it?
You know how to cope withaddictions and other yeah, so I
love this.
Okay.

(26:19):
Before we get too far towardsthe end, I have to ask because
we are caffeinated chaos.
Do you have a little chaoticmoment to share with our
listeners?
Oh my goodness, yeah, for sure,just raising my children, and
understanding where they'recoming from, and seeing my

(26:40):
trauma responses, like how I actand how quickly I go into, Oh,
they don't like me.
Or this is the reactivity.
When I see that reactivity in mychildren, that's when I
realized, Oh, I need to have abetter response.
If the child is acting out,really wanting to do something

(27:03):
unhealthy food or unhealthy, youknow, watch screen, oh my god,
the screen watching, the screentime is a big one.
Yeah, that struggle.
Wait, because I'm on the screena lot.
So how am I supposed to taketheir screens away?
And when I do take the screensaway Definitely chaos ensues and

(27:25):
I'm sure a lot of mothers canrelate to this because when you
take away their screens It'salmost like their pacifiers are
gone and they're like, okayChildren these days are not
really geared to, I'm going togo out and play and I'm not
going to come back, until you'reyelling for me to come back
home.
Oh, I remember that.
Go play until the streetlightscome on, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
So I think that's a constantchaotic struggle in my life,

(27:50):
even now, to how do Icommunicate?
And stay calm and grounded inthis struggle because this is a
never ending, almost feels likea losing battle as a mom.
Trying to manage the screen timeand the chaos around it, the
communication around it.
Because if I don't have thepatience and my cup is running

(28:12):
low, how am I gonna, you know,reason with the child?
Because so many times they need.
They need you to sit with themand reason and slowly pull them
out of that trance of screentime, just watching, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's been my most, that's likea consistent chaos that I deal
with.

(28:33):
That's fair.
I feel like that's a chaos thatwe can all relate with.
Like my daughter, she uses a,one of our old iPhones and she
plays, learning games on it.
And then we, and then she alsohas like YouTube, which is,
blocked for everything, butwe're always like, okay, you can
do 10 minutes.
She calls it homework.
10 minutes of homework and fiveminutes of video.

(28:55):
And then we got to brush ourteeth.
And then I.
I help her with this being okaywith giving it up being like,
okay, do you want to do yourhomework first?
Or do you want to do your videofirst and then giving her that
choice and how she can dictateon it?
Usually she'll pick the videofirst and then she'll do her
homework and then so by thenshe's just like, I don't want to
do this anymore.

(29:16):
And then I'm like, Oh, I guess Igot to charge it, you know?
Oh, that's beautiful.
Yeah.
Because you directed her braintowards the non addictive.
So she got her fix of completinga task and the dopamine from
task completion versus gettingit from the screen.
Oh, that's really good.

(29:36):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's nice.
mean, we also don't charge itlike over 15%.
so then I'm like, oh, it died,oops, gotta put it on the
charger and I was like put it onfor like 10 minutes.
Girl, wait till she gets smarterand figures all this out.
Then you'll have to level upyour I know, I gotta get twice
as smart now.

(29:57):
Right?
Yeah.
This is a struggle that it's sohard to keep ahead of.
You know, with their screen andthen when you're running low on
resources and energy and you'redealing with the old your own
burdens, it's so easy to just belike, and then you feel like
just not a good mom when youjust give in and you're like,

(30:17):
Okay, fine.
There's nothing I can do.
I've got to give into this,they're watching and then I feel
terrible about it and then thatstarts another chaos inside me,
the guilt of it and how do Ihandle this And I'm pretty sure
almost every mom, at least inthe United States, is dealing
with this.
100 percent I guarantee you likethere's people out there who are

(30:40):
listening and they're likeprobably nodding their head even
if they might not be realizingthat they're doing it like, Oh,
yeah, screen time totally getit.
Yeah, so I feel your pain moms.
We are right there in the battlewith you.
That's what it feels like.
It feels like a battle againstthese screens to save my child's

(31:04):
nervous system.
Before we say goodbye, how canour listeners connect with you.
How do you want them to reachout if they have questions or
anything?
Yeah.
So shoot me a message from mywebsite, holisticdolly.
com.
At the bottom, there's a littleform with your name and your

(31:26):
message.
You can send it to me.
I get it right away.
Or you can send me an email,holisticdolly at gmail.
com.
I'm on Instagram.
The.
holisticdolly.
com Dolly and my YouTube whereall my long form learning is the
holistic dolly.
Okay, awesome.
I'm gonna put all those linksdown below, so don't worry.

(31:47):
You don't have to remember them.
Listeners, you can just go downand click as well as the link to
get Dolly's book.
Yes.
Yes.
Get the book.
This will be the best investmentyou make for your children,
yourself, your business, andjust for your sanity.
Thank you so much for joiningus, Dolly.

(32:08):
I'm like super excited and, ifyou ever write a second book,
you gotta come back on.
Yes.
Yes, definitely.
I'd be happy to.
Yeah, it's been a pleasuretalking to you.
Thank you for giving me the timeand the platform to bring the
message to those who are stillstruggling and trying to figure
this out.
Yeah, it's so important.

(32:29):
That people take care ofthemselves so they can take care
of others.
Oh, that's it.
That's it.
That's it.
Take care of yourself, so youcan take care of others.
Don't just take care of othersand forget about yourself.
Nope.
No.
That's gonna be like the quoteof the episode.
It's just like, yeah.
Well, thank you so much forcoming on.

(32:50):
Thank you.
Everyone else, I will see youall on Thursday.
That's a wrap on another episodeof Caffeinated Chaos.
I hope you're leaving with alittle more clarity, a lot more
inspiration, and maybe even anextra shot of motivation.
If you loved today's episode,don't forget to follow us, leave
a review, and share it with afriend who could use just a

(33:12):
little chaos and caffeine intheir life.
Until next time, keep embracingthe mess, chase your dreams, and
make magic happen.
One caffeinated, chaotic momentat a time.
I will see you all soon.
Bye now.
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