August 21, 2024 • 27 mins
Ever wondered what it takes to turn your passion for content creation into a full-time career? Join us as we navigate the labyrinth of financial instability and the often sky-high expectations faced by aspiring creators. We share the journeys of friends and renowned creators like Pastor Games and Caliente, shedding light on the multiple side hustles often required to keep the dream alive. We also muse about the importance of financial security before taking the plunge, and entertain ideas of alternative ventures—ever thought about opening a retro game shop?
Balancing professional workspaces with streaming setups? We've been there. Reflecting on how our day jobs funded our high-end streaming gear, we discuss how these tools now serve our professional needs. From emails to podcast recordings, our equipment has found a new purpose. As we shifted our podcast focus from exclusive content creation topics to broader subjects, many of our streaming peers have transitioned or moved on. This episode also explores the transient nature of relationships within the streaming community, and we wrap up with a heartfelt discussion on parenting, online friendships, and having "the talk" with the next generation. Tune in for personal anecdotes, contrasting cultural perspectives, and the evolution of relationships both online and offline.
Josh aka Bearded_Nova
I'm from Australia and am what you would call a father who games. I have 5 kids so not as much time to game as I used to. But I still game and stream when I can. So come join me on Twitch in chat as we chill out.
Business Inquiries: Bearded-n0va@aussiebb.com.au
Josh aka Moorph
I'm a US-based husband and father of two boys. I work full-time and have been a content creator since 2000. I'm a YouTube partner, Twitch and LiveSpace streamer who founded a content creation coaching company called Elev8d Media Group (elev8d.media). I'm a blogger, streamer, podcaster, and video-er(?).
Business Inquiries: josh@elev8d.media
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
turning off normal human male mode.
Switching to dad mode.
Welcome in to dad mode withyour hosts bearded nova and
morph and then it seemed likenothing else happened with it.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah, yeah, and they still have.
No, they do have competition,like road.
Road made some more affordableproducts, that's true.
I obviously I don't check outthat stuff much anymore but
because I would want to buy itand I have no reason to buy it
right now very true.
Yeah, road has been hot yeah, isthat your faux bikini shirt?
(00:42):
I see there.
Yeah, very nice.
Yeah, I'm worn in ages.
I gotta make sure I look at it.
I gotta make sure I look.
Look at your eyes, not, I wasjust looking at that.
That strong shot you took ofthe person complaining on
twitter.
Yeah, they don't have the moneyfor groceries, like you said.
Maybe you shouldn't have madethe decision to go full-time
making fucking content exactlylike I read this comic.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I'm switching to pay out twice a month because I
can't afford to get grocerieswhen I'm full-time.
I'm thinking what the fuck madeyou think it was a good time to
go full-time yeah, like ourfriend, mutual friend, pastor
games, has an amazing youtubechannel.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
He does.
He's kicking ass, like he'salmost at a hundred thousand
people, almost ready to get hisfirst plaque.
Amazing, and I saw a postwritten on twitter a couple
weeks ago finally was able topay one of our mortgage payments
.
It's like and I'm not I'm notdisparaging him, but like he's
doing, he's doing amazing andhe's able to pay one of his
mortgage payments, not the otherbills.
(01:41):
So like, yeah, content creationis not designed for all, but
like a thousand people worldwideto make a living no, no, it's
not, it's.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I mean, we all have different budgets, I guess, and
you know what our means is tosurvive off of the income.
Everyone has a different meansof of income and what, what,
what's needed to live.
But you've got to tick thosebasic boxes.
Can I cover all the bills?
(02:12):
Yes.
Can I afford to eat?
Yes, basically, can you stayalive and keep a roof over your
head?
The two most important thingsyou need to worry about before
choosing to go full-time.
I mean, pass again, it'sdifferent.
He's got a wife, she works,he's staying home, dad, like
(02:34):
it's a.
It's a different situation, butparticularly those younger
people, people who single orwhatever, like that's that's.
Your first goal is just can youlook after yourself?
And then the next one is well,can this work?
Yeah.
If not, do I have someone tosupport me while I build this up
or while I work towards thatjourney?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
yep, okay, cool it's not the time right, right,
exactly.
I remember, I mean, you know,when we were both really active
in content creation, we sawpeople saying I can't wait to
quit my job and they're doingall this stuff.
Or, you know, and like I wouldtry to remind them and I get
yelled at for being, I don'tknow, reasonable.
I'm like, well, what are yougoing to do when you take time
off?
How are you going to pay?
(03:14):
You don't get any money incomeduring that time.
What if you're hurt?
You have no health insurance.
What are you going to do if youhave a bad month, like every
streamer probably has a whalethat gives them a majority of
their money.
What happens when they go awayor go to another channel and
stop?
You know giving you all thatincome?
They?
You have to be able to haveemergency funds or something.
What if twitch just closesovernight or kick closes
overnight?
What are you going to do, likeif people just don't think it
(03:37):
through or they don't likecaliente, who had like seven
side hustles in addition totwitch in order to she was
making good money, but sevenside hustles in addition to
Twitch in order to she wasmaking good money, but seven
side hustles in addition toTwitch, just to do what she's
doing like it's not all thoseside hustles were making way
more money, though all of thoseside hustles were making way
more money than what Twitch was.
(03:57):
Twitch was like yeah, exactly, Iwas in it for long enough.
I like it.
It was a lot of fun.
It's a lot of work but it's alot of fun.
But it you know, it didn't takeme very long to realize, oh,
this isn't a career.
Like even me, when I was tryingto make something out of it,
streaming wasn't like going tobe where I was going to make
(04:17):
money.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
It was from a side hustle.
I was right.
Elevated media, that was what'sgoing to make income.
Streaming never was going tomake income.
No, no, I.
I mean, I still still thinkabout streaming like full-time,
what time top?
Definitely every every otherweek when I buy my lottery
ticket, I'm like you know, wewin some, we win some lottery.
I'm going full-time but that'sbut.
But at that point, you know, Idon't care if I, if I, won the
(04:48):
lottery I'm not doing it for anincome, I'm doing it purely to
fill in a void of time thatwould be my nine to five job,
because really I would go insaneif I didn't have a a job.
That's honestly.
I need something to do.
You need something to do yourbrain.
So, yeah, I had a chat withwife ages ago about lottery.
(05:08):
We're talking about somethinglike I'd either have to open
like a retro game shop like shegoes oh yeah, if you won the
lottery you can just stream fulltime.
I'm like, oh yeah, or I'd opena retro game shop and I just
hang out at a game shop type ofthing.
I don't even care if it makes,I don't even think it's a great
business model half the time.
I really don't, and I don't.
I don't see any in my area, inmy state, actually surviving
(05:32):
long term.
Yeah, but in my head that's agreat idea, like that's fun.
It's just fun that's.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, I'd probably do the same thing.
I've always wanted to open, runa movie theater which they
don't make a ton of moneyindividual chains, you know but
I just love to run a movietheater which they don't make a
ton of money individual chains,but I just love it.
Movie theater with comics in it, like a geeky kind of shop yeah
, a barcade, but I don't care, Icould run a barcade.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I don't know, there's lots of different.
I think barcade would be aprofitable business.
It's funny, though, because youget the opportunity to go.
You know you want to streamfull-time.
You got an endless amount ofmoney, you stream full-time, but
you want to do it.
Oh, no, no, no, I'm going toactually start a business.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Everybody goes.
Yeah, yeah, but I'm really goodat this game.
I'm going to be an esportsprofessional, alright, you know
that they don't make any moneyeither, right?
Yeah, they get sponsors, andthe sponsors only give you money
because you they hope you'regoing to go to tournaments and
they're going to see their nameeverywhere and it's going to get
a lot of business to them ifyour team sucks.
That's not happening.
(06:34):
And plus, all these kids thatare on esports teams, they want
to get paid because they have topay the work.
You know practice, yeah, noside jobs.
But unless the owners of theesports team can get advertisers
, they can't pay you.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
So it's like look at overwatch league.
Overwatch league isn't aroundanymore.
It was a great idea like payesports teams full-time, treat
them like a shooting, like anyprofessional sports team?
Yeah, but it just didn't bringin enough money to keep it
sustainable for a very long time.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah, yeah it is.
It is crazy.
Like I, I applaud people whoare going into content creation.
I think it's a great way tolearn some skills you know
regularly, like electronics andgraphic design and public
speaking and stuff like that.
You know editing, eventmanagement, yeah.
But just take those skills andapply them to another job,
(07:27):
another field, really that's,that's, that's how you're going
to make money off of it.
You know, people used to yellat me when I would say shit like
that.
I'm like, yeah, all theseskills will go, do all the jobs
that these skills do.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Pay way more, way more than you'll ever make in
content creation I actually sawa job advertised when I was
going to send it to you theother day for tiktok on.
It was actually on a because,because every so often I like to
peruse the job market just tosee if there's something
slightly different around my payscale that I couldn't use my
skills at, etc.
(07:58):
Etc.
And there wasn't job for aTikTok agency, really, yeah.
Well, the pay was not what I'mon now, definitely definitely
not what I'm on now, but itwasn't horrible either.
Like it would be a step backfor me.
And the job was basicallyheadhunting creators oh really,
(08:22):
yeah, yeah, and then organizingthem with streaming and getting
them into live space and justlike, yeah, like a marketing
manager, I guess.
For, yeah, yeah, that actuallysounds like a really cool job.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Like, if I wasn't successful at what I do, yeah, I
would probably have jumped onthat when I was in the before I
started elevated media, when Iwas in the midst of just doing
streaming and I was getting kindof burnt out, I realized that I
like the process of setting upthe stream and organizing it a
lot more than I did doing it,because it was exhausting
(08:54):
sometimes, you know, and I waslike thinking maybe I should be
like, if it's such a thing, likea stream producer, you know,
like helping people.
And I'm watching this YouTuberyesterday I won't mention his
name, but he's he's a great callof duty content creator and he
has hundreds of thousands ofsubscribers in his channel but
his, his videos aren't great.
His, the camera, the lighting,everything was bad about it.
(09:16):
He was popular because he wasgood, you know, and I'm like I
could help him be better.
You know what I mean.
I'm like you know what, eventhat that's not going to pay me
what I make, no, and I have alifestyle built around my
current salary.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Exactly, we're both sitting in these.
There's a lot of streamers thatdon't have little rooms like we
have, which is just a dedicatedpart of stupid expensive
equipment in it.
Yeah, our jobs paid for this.
You know what I mean expensiveequipment in it.
Yeah, our jobs paid for this.
You know I mean our jobs paidfor not streaming content
creation.
It was our jobs that paid, yeah, for to have this.
(09:53):
And yeah, this is a glorifiedroom that I come in and I'll
print something on a 3d printeragain, that was my job.
Where I'm like I want to get in3d printing, boom, I'm doing
that.
But realistically, I come inhere I have this massive desk
with monitors, studio lights andcameras and motion tracking
cameras and, and you know,stream decks out the arsehole.
And what do I do?
(10:14):
I work, I type emails, I doquotes, I'll record a podcast
and then maybe once a week Imight play star citizen for like
two hours yeah, yeah that'srealistically what this room is
for.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yes, that sounds like .
Yeah, that sounds like mysituation.
Absolutely I I don't.
If I use streaming income tobuy stuff that I have here, I
would really have a set offloodlights back there.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah yeah, my, my came out.
Lights are probably the onlything I'd have left, but I
wouldn't change anything.
It's just.
This is what makes me happy.
It's what makes you happy.
This is my position.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I think for both of us.
Even though we're not activelystreaming, we're still
podcasting, so we still needsome of the same stuff.
I don't regret anything, I know, but for anyone that I remember
when I first started and peoplelike you're brand new, how do
you have all that stuff?
I'm like, because I'm a workingadult man, like what do you
want me to say?
I'm stupid with my money.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
At times I don't ask my wife for permission.
Sometimes I just show up andget surprised, look what I have
and just hope that she justbought out what I brought.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yep Listen to this podcast, so I'm not going to
echo those sentiments.
My wife will see this clip.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Trust me, I hope this will find this part purposely
make it the top clip to send uphere, Yep.
But you know, as I said, Iwouldn't change a thing because
this is my happy space and atany point in time that we want
to stream or we want to doanything, we've got it here.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
As it is.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
It's funny.
So Nova and I met doingstreaming and when we got into
this we were utilizing ourstreaming personas, I guess, to
help sell it.
Like our, our streamingpersonas, I guess to like help
sell it.
And you know we knew a lot ofpeople in the streaming industry
you know that were parents,because we want to do something
more, you know, parent focused.
And it's funny, like we've beendoing it for so long, like I've
(12:09):
been out of the streaming worldfor a little for a while, that
I don't know that I know as manypeople I think people that I
used to know really well havequit since.
So I think the podcast isstarting to evolve a little bit
as well.
We talk way less about contentcreation and streaming than we
used to.
It used to be one of ourfavorite topics and now it's
just slipped away from that.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I've done a little bit more work from home, so
slowly getting back into thegroove of main monitor work,
blah, blah, blah.
Side monitor.
Over here Twitch is playing upin the top corner, just so I've
got something.
You know, some noise andbackground, yeah, and lurking,
really Chime and chat lurking alot.
That being said, a lot ofcreators that we know I don't
(12:52):
see anymore, yes, yep, and acouple that I do great, they're
doing fantastic.
You know Deb, she's been onhere before.
Deb got the Twitch bus program,yeah, yep, you know bigger
revenue split for her.
Congratulations, that's awesome.
Yeah, a couple of other guysyou know Wes.
(13:13):
Wes has been on.
He's doing a podcast now withNug, him and Nugget.
They've got their own thinghappening there.
The landscape, I don't.
I don't know.
Eric, ps2, I don't know to behonest, I haven't asked him much
of him from him anywhere latelyno, no, I think dom's being
very focused on the behind thescenes stuff that he normally
(13:36):
does with, because he's got sidehustles.
His main focus wasn't contentcreation as a sense of us, it
was very much helping othercontent creators promote their
to promote, so he's been veryfocused into that.
That being said, I'm horribleand haven't messaged him either,
but PS2, he's still doing thegrind.
(13:59):
Yeah, a lot more on tiktokfocus, yep, and yeah, a couple
of people that I just used tosee online I don't really see
online.
I still see.
See, I'm posting content ontiktok though, yeah, um, which
makes me think that they'restill yeah, that's.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
That's.
The one thing too is you know,I was mentioning how I don't see
something people is.
When you get a configuration,you develop a lot of friendship
quickly because you're talking alot of people you should
talking a lot of people andthose relationships you're
creating it's like when you'redating.
Sometimes they last a week, amonth, a half a year and then
they just disappear right, yeahand and it's not just your, your
(14:36):
peer streamers, contentcreators, but also your, your
community people will come intoyour stream or whatever, and
they'll be there for four hoursevery the entire time.
You're streaming, every singleday.
You're streaming for like threemonths and then you never hear
from them again.
It's it's like you.
You can't invest too much intosome of this stuff.
(14:57):
You can't take too much a lotof it too seriously, because
you're just gonna getdisappointed, you know yeah,
yeah, yeah, 100 it's.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
It's disappointing, I guess it's the best way to put
it.
It's disappointing a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I honestly think it's .
You know, like you and I havebeen friends for a while, I feel
like this is an exception tothe rule for people that we've
met.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yes, yes, you know, yeah yeah, let's go, as I speak
to you even all the time and docontent creation.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I'd speak to you a lot less than what I used to
yeah, say, of the hundreds andhundreds, thousands of people
that I've met either in thecommunity or fellow streamers,
there's like five that I stilltalk to, including you, on a
even a semi-regular basis likethat yeah, yeah, yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
That's that's where I am nowadays.
There's, there's.
It was funny, it was even acontent creator.
You never met.
I've known him because weactually played competitive
games for like 10 years.
We live in the same, we live inthe same town.
We've never met, but weactually played competitive
games for like 10 years.
We live in the same town.
We've never met, but we used toplay.
Yeah, but me and I'm actuallythe third guy there too but we
(16:07):
used to play pretty competitivegames online like four or five
times a week, you know, a fewhours a day.
Like we spent a lot of timeplaying games and that was for
years so obviously tell you, adecade playing games.
He went into streaming, yeah,around the same time I did.
We both, that's kind of liketeared it off because we stopped
(16:29):
playing those games, so westopped playing as much.
I actually haven't spoke to himor seen him in ages online.
I was only thinking about thatthe other day.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
It's like been a year or something since I've
actually last seen someone who Ihad so much to do with my wife
and who knew so much about mylife yeah, yeah, I think that's
part of it too, because you, youdo talk to people a lot, but
it's usually very surface level,like, hey, what did you stream
last night?
Hey, did you hear this thingthat that twitch did so?
(16:57):
Like, when you don't talk tothem regularly, you don't have
anything to connect with themabout after that.
You know, yeah, um, like thereare people that used to be in my
community all the time whostill like every single uh video
I put on tiktok.
Even I rarely do it now.
Or if I make a comment on avideo, they'll go and like the
comment, you know.
But it's like I don't have areason to reach out to them.
(17:18):
Like, what am I?
I didn't know you that.
I don't even know your realname, man, you know what I mean.
Like it's, it's strange.
That's another weird thing too,and this is probably just me
being older, being gen x, like I, sometimes I dare to call
people by their real name andthey're like no, just call me by
my handle, okay, yeah, yeah, Idon't care.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
But Whatever, I'll respond to all types of names.
I have a wife.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Not the four-letter ones, yeah, so it's interesting
how that all works.
Oh, yeah, you know, changinggears here, the Olympics is
going on.
You know, I brought my kid outfor his first driving lesson
ever and when we got done westopped at Buffalo Wild Wings to
get some food and they had theOlympics on.
(18:05):
He's 12, right, and I knowyou're the one who complains and
says he's 12.
You give him a driving lesson.
Yeah, you parent your own way,okay, anyway, we're watching it.
And then they have basketball.
They had, I think golf wasstill on.
They had women's volleyballyeah, that's where his eyes were
glued volleyball, yeah.
And so I'm like, oh, we gottahave a talk, huh, bud, you know.
(18:28):
So that was frightening.
So he drove and I realized, oh,oh, hormones, like in the same
day, and it was a lot.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
It was a lot for me, yeah, just this.
They can step from one stage tothe next, and that's when you
really notice the fact thatthey've grown up or they've
matured to this next stage.
Yeah, it's a lot when you hitit.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
It is a lot, did you?
How did you do the talk?
Do you have the talk?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I don't know.
My wife and I actually talkedabout this the other night
because something was on TV.
I'm like I don't rememberhaving the talk.
I swear my mom just said here'sa video, watch it, or something
.
Here's a book or something.
And that's right, it was TV,we're watching TV, and it was
shit.
My wife loves reality TV shows.
You know your DesperateHousewives and Teen Mom and all
(19:18):
that shit.
And it was one of them and theywere talking about support for
women and girls in high schoolsand growing up in America and
understanding this.
And I was walking past the room.
I said why would they do that?
Like, don't you just have aclass?
Because, honestly, the schoolshere, I don't know what age it
starts now.
(19:38):
Class because, honestly, theschools here, I don't know what
age it starts now.
But there is classes in healthin australia for growing up and,
depending on the age, dependson you know the detail of it as
such, but usually around thatgrade seven, eight mark is where
the conversations start atschool and it's a permission
(19:59):
slip that goes home and theschool's like, hey, we're going
to talk about reproductive, andthey do split the groups off
into boys and girls and thenthey do ones together, you know,
obviously, because there'sdifferent things for each one
and the schools actually tacklemost of that.
You just tick a box, send apiece of paper back, you know,
and the schools handle that overhere.
So you don't really need tohave chat because school took
(20:22):
care of it.
You and my wife mentionedsomething and I said, oh, by the
line she goes oh, yeah, no, westill have to have, I still have
to have a chat with the girls.
I'm like, well, no, school justdid that.
Like why do you need to do that?
Yeah, apparently maybe it'ssmarter to still have that
conversation with your children.
But in my sense I was like,well, the school explained it, I
(20:42):
don't need to be.
Yeah, they got a question, I'msure they'll ask, but I don't
really want to have thatconversation.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah, it's an awkward conversation.
They did it in sixth grade,when I was growing up too
separate the boys and girls andI remember my sixth grade
teacher and his name was mrwilcox, I remember because you
know after he showed us a videoof what happens when you know
you get an erection.
He, you know kids, uh, I stillmasturbate and you know we, we,
we simultaneously in the room,you know but it was probably a
(21:11):
conversation you can't say tochildren it was.
It was surreal.
Nowadays he'd probably getfired and arrested instantly,
instantly.
But you know that's what he?
Yeah, it was creepy.
So that was that.
Unlock your childhood trauma.
Yeah, this is going to be avery different kind of podcast.
Now I don't have to talk to mythree-year-old Lie down on the
(21:32):
couch, so it's I don't know.
I asked my kid kind of circlingback there about it.
I'm like what but okay, I justwanna, I just wanna like support
him because, like I know verywell, and you probably remember
this too like your firstheartbreak, you feel like you
(21:54):
should just jump off a bridgeand I wanna make sure that I'm
involved enough so he can cometo me or his mom and talk about
it whenever it happens, you know.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I think the best thing to do is just to touch
base a little bit, like hey,I've said it with my son a
little bit with the daughtersover the time.
So it's been like either yougot a girlfriend or something
like that, and he might say,yeah, or now, whatever, you want
to talk about things, let meknow.
Like I've been through, I'vegone through it all, man, I'm
happy to have chats if you everwant to ask questions or
(22:25):
something.
Yeah, you know, because I'vewatched my son do some stupid,
stupid stuff and I've mentionedthat on here multiple times.
I know through primary school,one of the girls that he had a
crush on was the deputyprincipal's daughter.
Oh, and at one stage heactually asked the deputy
principal if it would be allright if he could take her
(22:47):
Really.
Like dude, you picked the andat one stage he actually asked
the deputy principal if it wouldbe all right if he could take
it Really.
Like dude, you picked the wronggirl at the school.
You're putting a target on yourback.
Stay low, stay low.
But like I mean, our son's thesame age and I was asking my son
for ages there about underarmhair.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Like have you got underarm?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
hair yet no, no, I'm like, oh, let me have a look.
No, no, like he was really shyabout that, yeah, yeah.
And I'm just kind of like lookat this, let it go.
It's like I know you're good,things are gonna happen.
I'm sure you've heard about it.
You're gonna get hair therehair and lots of other places
you never bloody spoke about.
You know it's.
(23:23):
I think schools say enough or alot cover a lot, and I think,
as a parent, I don't think weneed to have the full chat like
you see in TV and movies abouthaving the chat, but it's a
great spot for us to say, hey, Iknow you've done this or you've
learned this in school.
If you want to ask questions ortalk about anything anymore
(23:45):
confused about anything, yeah,you know I'm here to have that
chat.
Yeah, want to ask questions ortalk about anything anymore
confused about anything?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
yeah, you know, I'm here to have that chat yeah, it
is a lot different now than youknow when I was growing up.
A lot of it has to do withinternet and the availability of
content, you know, yeah, yeah,there there were.
There are no mysteries nowadays.
For kids, there's no mysteries.
I feel like you have to talk tothem, even earlier than we
(24:12):
would probably talk to you,because any quick Google search
is going to turn up somethingthat you've got to talk about,
or the fact that they havephones and they're passing
pictures around.
That didn't happen back then,you know.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah that didn't happen back then, you know, yeah
, so there's a lot of additionalthings parents who are, you
know, in their mid-30s or 40s orolder, whatever need to think
about, because it was differentwhen you were younger I mean,
yeah, as much as the internetcan answer a lot of things and
and create a whole lot ofquestions, especially the say
(24:47):
year or so, two years, with themore powerful rise of AI, it's
actually created a whole lot ofmisconception as well, because
you can deepfake stuff way moreeasily, so much more
misinformation can be spread.
It's not as simple as justallowing the internet to answer
all those questions, becausethey could technically be going
(25:10):
down a path of something.
That's not true.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
The deepfake is crazy .
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Oh, it is so bad.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Although I was thinking of deepfaking myself
and looking really good andyoung, yeah, yeah, like, oh my
gosh, I can't believe someonewould make that, you know,
because I would like that Frameit, put it in the hallway, the
family could admire it.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yeah, actually thinking about faking it.
I spoke about this when my sonwas born many years ago.
I actually wanted to try andage his photo like as a baby,
like age him to see what hewould look like at the age of
like 20 or something, yeah, andthen frame it like print it out,
frame it and then put it in thehouse.
So as he grew up over time hewould be trying to like who's
(25:58):
that person?
Nah, it doesn't matter, itdoesn't matter.
And then when he got to thatage, or very close to that age,
I would hopefully hope that thepicture would look very similar
to him, and then he wouldrealize that this photo that had
been in the house for 20 yearswas actually him this whole time
.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
And then I could tell him that he was a time traveler
that's literally what I wasgoing to say if you made it a
regular story.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
But yes, yes, my whole plan was to display those
10 20.
You were there yeah you're timetraveling like.
I wanted to deep fake his owntime traveling history into him.
Just completely Mind fuckingfurther.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
And then you Photoshop yourself into it.
Yeah, you have your arm aroundhim.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And, by the way, for peoplelistening, yes, it's the kind of
dads we are.
Pray for our children, I guess.
Yeah, this has been a reallywide ranging conversation it has
, but yeah, it's fun you've beenlistening to dad mode.
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morph and then it seemed likenothing else happened with it.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah, yeah, and they still have.
No, they do have competition,like road.
Road made some more affordableproducts, that's true.
I obviously I don't check outthat stuff much anymore but
because I would want to buy itand I have no reason to buy it
right now very true.
Yeah, road has been hot yeah, isthat your faux bikini shirt?
(00:42):
I see there.
Yeah, very nice.
Yeah, I'm worn in ages.
I gotta make sure I look at it.
I gotta make sure I look.
Look at your eyes, not, I wasjust looking at that.
That strong shot you took ofthe person complaining on
twitter.
Yeah, they don't have the moneyfor groceries, like you said.
Maybe you shouldn't have madethe decision to go full-time
making fucking content exactlylike I read this comic.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I'm switching to pay out twice a month because I
can't afford to get grocerieswhen I'm full-time.
I'm thinking what the fuck madeyou think it was a good time to
go full-time yeah, like ourfriend, mutual friend, pastor
games, has an amazing youtubechannel.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
He does.
He's kicking ass, like he'salmost at a hundred thousand
people, almost ready to get hisfirst plaque.
Amazing, and I saw a postwritten on twitter a couple
weeks ago finally was able topay one of our mortgage payments
.
It's like and I'm not I'm notdisparaging him, but like he's
doing, he's doing amazing andhe's able to pay one of his
mortgage payments, not the otherbills.
(01:41):
So like, yeah, content creationis not designed for all, but
like a thousand people worldwideto make a living no, no, it's
not, it's.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I mean, we all have different budgets, I guess, and
you know what our means is tosurvive off of the income.
Everyone has a different meansof of income and what, what,
what's needed to live.
But you've got to tick thosebasic boxes.
Can I cover all the bills?
(02:12):
Yes.
Can I afford to eat?
Yes, basically, can you stayalive and keep a roof over your
head?
The two most important thingsyou need to worry about before
choosing to go full-time.
I mean, pass again, it'sdifferent.
He's got a wife, she works,he's staying home, dad, like
(02:34):
it's a.
It's a different situation, butparticularly those younger
people, people who single orwhatever, like that's that's.
Your first goal is just can youlook after yourself?
And then the next one is well,can this work?
Yeah.
If not, do I have someone tosupport me while I build this up
or while I work towards thatjourney?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
yep, okay, cool it's not the time right, right,
exactly.
I remember, I mean, you know,when we were both really active
in content creation, we sawpeople saying I can't wait to
quit my job and they're doingall this stuff.
Or, you know, and like I wouldtry to remind them and I get
yelled at for being, I don'tknow, reasonable.
I'm like, well, what are yougoing to do when you take time
off?
How are you going to pay?
(03:14):
You don't get any money incomeduring that time.
What if you're hurt?
You have no health insurance.
What are you going to do if youhave a bad month, like every
streamer probably has a whalethat gives them a majority of
their money.
What happens when they go awayor go to another channel and
stop?
You know giving you all thatincome?
They?
You have to be able to haveemergency funds or something.
What if twitch just closesovernight or kick closes
overnight?
What are you going to do, likeif people just don't think it
(03:37):
through or they don't likecaliente, who had like seven
side hustles in addition totwitch in order to she was
making good money, but sevenside hustles in addition to
Twitch in order to she wasmaking good money, but seven
side hustles in addition toTwitch, just to do what she's
doing like it's not all thoseside hustles were making way
more money, though all of thoseside hustles were making way
more money than what Twitch was.
(03:57):
Twitch was like yeah, exactly, Iwas in it for long enough.
I like it.
It was a lot of fun.
It's a lot of work but it's alot of fun.
But it you know, it didn't takeme very long to realize, oh,
this isn't a career.
Like even me, when I was tryingto make something out of it,
streaming wasn't like going tobe where I was going to make
(04:17):
money.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
It was from a side hustle.
I was right.
Elevated media, that was what'sgoing to make income.
Streaming never was going tomake income.
No, no, I.
I mean, I still still thinkabout streaming like full-time,
what time top?
Definitely every every otherweek when I buy my lottery
ticket, I'm like you know, wewin some, we win some lottery.
I'm going full-time but that'sbut.
But at that point, you know, Idon't care if I, if I, won the
(04:48):
lottery I'm not doing it for anincome, I'm doing it purely to
fill in a void of time thatwould be my nine to five job,
because really I would go insaneif I didn't have a a job.
That's honestly.
I need something to do.
You need something to do yourbrain.
So, yeah, I had a chat withwife ages ago about lottery.
(05:08):
We're talking about somethinglike I'd either have to open
like a retro game shop like shegoes oh yeah, if you won the
lottery you can just stream fulltime.
I'm like, oh yeah, or I'd opena retro game shop and I just
hang out at a game shop type ofthing.
I don't even care if it makes,I don't even think it's a great
business model half the time.
I really don't, and I don't.
I don't see any in my area, inmy state, actually surviving
(05:32):
long term.
Yeah, but in my head that's agreat idea, like that's fun.
It's just fun that's.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yeah, I'd probably do the same thing.
I've always wanted to open, runa movie theater which they
don't make a ton of moneyindividual chains, you know but
I just love to run a movietheater which they don't make a
ton of money individual chains,but I just love it.
Movie theater with comics in it, like a geeky kind of shop yeah
, a barcade, but I don't care, Icould run a barcade.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I don't know, there's lots of different.
I think barcade would be aprofitable business.
It's funny, though, because youget the opportunity to go.
You know you want to streamfull-time.
You got an endless amount ofmoney, you stream full-time, but
you want to do it.
Oh, no, no, no, I'm going toactually start a business.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Everybody goes.
Yeah, yeah, but I'm really goodat this game.
I'm going to be an esportsprofessional, alright, you know
that they don't make any moneyeither, right?
Yeah, they get sponsors, andthe sponsors only give you money
because you they hope you'regoing to go to tournaments and
they're going to see their nameeverywhere and it's going to get
a lot of business to them ifyour team sucks.
That's not happening.
(06:34):
And plus, all these kids thatare on esports teams, they want
to get paid because they have topay the work.
You know practice, yeah, noside jobs.
But unless the owners of theesports team can get advertisers
, they can't pay you.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
So it's like look at overwatch league.
Overwatch league isn't aroundanymore.
It was a great idea like payesports teams full-time, treat
them like a shooting, like anyprofessional sports team?
Yeah, but it just didn't bringin enough money to keep it
sustainable for a very long time.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah, yeah it is.
It is crazy.
Like I, I applaud people whoare going into content creation.
I think it's a great way tolearn some skills you know
regularly, like electronics andgraphic design and public
speaking and stuff like that.
You know editing, eventmanagement, yeah.
But just take those skills andapply them to another job,
(07:27):
another field, really that's,that's, that's how you're going
to make money off of it.
You know, people used to yellat me when I would say shit like
that.
I'm like, yeah, all theseskills will go, do all the jobs
that these skills do.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Pay way more, way more than you'll ever make in
content creation I actually sawa job advertised when I was
going to send it to you theother day for tiktok on.
It was actually on a because,because every so often I like to
peruse the job market just tosee if there's something
slightly different around my payscale that I couldn't use my
skills at, etc.
(07:58):
Etc.
And there wasn't job for aTikTok agency, really, yeah.
Well, the pay was not what I'mon now, definitely definitely
not what I'm on now, but itwasn't horrible either.
Like it would be a step backfor me.
And the job was basicallyheadhunting creators oh really,
(08:22):
yeah, yeah, and then organizingthem with streaming and getting
them into live space and justlike, yeah, like a marketing
manager, I guess.
For, yeah, yeah, that actuallysounds like a really cool job.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Like, if I wasn't successful at what I do, yeah, I
would probably have jumped onthat when I was in the before I
started elevated media, when Iwas in the midst of just doing
streaming and I was getting kindof burnt out, I realized that I
like the process of setting upthe stream and organizing it a
lot more than I did doing it,because it was exhausting
(08:54):
sometimes, you know, and I waslike thinking maybe I should be
like, if it's such a thing, likea stream producer, you know,
like helping people.
And I'm watching this YouTuberyesterday I won't mention his
name, but he's he's a great callof duty content creator and he
has hundreds of thousands ofsubscribers in his channel but
his, his videos aren't great.
His, the camera, the lighting,everything was bad about it.
(09:16):
He was popular because he wasgood, you know, and I'm like I
could help him be better.
You know what I mean.
I'm like you know what, eventhat that's not going to pay me
what I make, no, and I have alifestyle built around my
current salary.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Exactly, we're both sitting in these.
There's a lot of streamers thatdon't have little rooms like we
have, which is just a dedicatedpart of stupid expensive
equipment in it.
Yeah, our jobs paid for this.
You know what I mean expensiveequipment in it.
Yeah, our jobs paid for this.
You know I mean our jobs paidfor not streaming content
creation.
It was our jobs that paid, yeah, for to have this.
(09:53):
And yeah, this is a glorifiedroom that I come in and I'll
print something on a 3d printeragain, that was my job.
Where I'm like I want to get in3d printing, boom, I'm doing
that.
But realistically, I come inhere I have this massive desk
with monitors, studio lights andcameras and motion tracking
cameras and, and you know,stream decks out the arsehole.
And what do I do?
(10:14):
I work, I type emails, I doquotes, I'll record a podcast
and then maybe once a week Imight play star citizen for like
two hours yeah, yeah that'srealistically what this room is
for.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yes, that sounds like .
Yeah, that sounds like mysituation.
Absolutely I I don't.
If I use streaming income tobuy stuff that I have here, I
would really have a set offloodlights back there.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah yeah, my, my came out.
Lights are probably the onlything I'd have left, but I
wouldn't change anything.
It's just.
This is what makes me happy.
It's what makes you happy.
This is my position.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
I think for both of us.
Even though we're not activelystreaming, we're still
podcasting, so we still needsome of the same stuff.
I don't regret anything, I know, but for anyone that I remember
when I first started and peoplelike you're brand new, how do
you have all that stuff?
I'm like, because I'm a workingadult man, like what do you
want me to say?
I'm stupid with my money.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
At times I don't ask my wife for permission.
Sometimes I just show up andget surprised, look what I have
and just hope that she justbought out what I brought.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yep Listen to this podcast, so I'm not going to
echo those sentiments.
My wife will see this clip.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Trust me, I hope this will find this part purposely
make it the top clip to send uphere, Yep.
But you know, as I said, Iwouldn't change a thing because
this is my happy space and atany point in time that we want
to stream or we want to doanything, we've got it here.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
As it is.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
It's funny.
So Nova and I met doingstreaming and when we got into
this we were utilizing ourstreaming personas, I guess, to
help sell it.
Like our, our streamingpersonas, I guess to like help
sell it.
And you know we knew a lot ofpeople in the streaming industry
you know that were parents,because we want to do something
more, you know, parent focused.
And it's funny, like we've beendoing it for so long, like I've
(12:09):
been out of the streaming worldfor a little for a while, that
I don't know that I know as manypeople I think people that I
used to know really well havequit since.
So I think the podcast isstarting to evolve a little bit
as well.
We talk way less about contentcreation and streaming than we
used to.
It used to be one of ourfavorite topics and now it's
just slipped away from that.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
I've done a little bit more work from home, so
slowly getting back into thegroove of main monitor work,
blah, blah, blah.
Side monitor.
Over here Twitch is playing upin the top corner, just so I've
got something.
You know, some noise andbackground, yeah, and lurking,
really Chime and chat lurking alot.
That being said, a lot ofcreators that we know I don't
(12:52):
see anymore, yes, yep, and acouple that I do great, they're
doing fantastic.
You know Deb, she's been onhere before.
Deb got the Twitch bus program,yeah, yep, you know bigger
revenue split for her.
Congratulations, that's awesome.
Yeah, a couple of other guysyou know Wes.
(13:13):
Wes has been on.
He's doing a podcast now withNug, him and Nugget.
They've got their own thinghappening there.
The landscape, I don't.
I don't know.
Eric, ps2, I don't know to behonest, I haven't asked him much
of him from him anywhere latelyno, no, I think dom's being
very focused on the behind thescenes stuff that he normally
(13:36):
does with, because he's got sidehustles.
His main focus wasn't contentcreation as a sense of us, it
was very much helping othercontent creators promote their
to promote, so he's been veryfocused into that.
That being said, I'm horribleand haven't messaged him either,
but PS2, he's still doing thegrind.
(13:59):
Yeah, a lot more on tiktokfocus, yep, and yeah, a couple
of people that I just used tosee online I don't really see
online.
I still see.
See, I'm posting content ontiktok though, yeah, um, which
makes me think that they'restill yeah, that's.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
That's.
The one thing too is you know,I was mentioning how I don't see
something people is.
When you get a configuration,you develop a lot of friendship
quickly because you're talking alot of people you should
talking a lot of people andthose relationships you're
creating it's like when you'redating.
Sometimes they last a week, amonth, a half a year and then
they just disappear right, yeahand and it's not just your, your
(14:36):
peer streamers, contentcreators, but also your, your
community people will come intoyour stream or whatever, and
they'll be there for four hoursevery the entire time.
You're streaming, every singleday.
You're streaming for like threemonths and then you never hear
from them again.
It's it's like you.
You can't invest too much intosome of this stuff.
(14:57):
You can't take too much a lotof it too seriously, because
you're just gonna getdisappointed, you know yeah,
yeah, yeah, 100 it's.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
It's disappointing, I guess it's the best way to put
it.
It's disappointing a lot.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
I honestly think it's .
You know, like you and I havebeen friends for a while, I feel
like this is an exception tothe rule for people that we've
met.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yes, yes, you know, yeah yeah, let's go, as I speak
to you even all the time and docontent creation.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
I'd speak to you a lot less than what I used to
yeah, say, of the hundreds andhundreds, thousands of people
that I've met either in thecommunity or fellow streamers,
there's like five that I stilltalk to, including you, on a
even a semi-regular basis likethat yeah, yeah, yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
That's that's where I am nowadays.
There's, there's.
It was funny, it was even acontent creator.
You never met.
I've known him because weactually played competitive
games for like 10 years.
We live in the same, we live inthe same town.
We've never met, but weactually played competitive
games for like 10 years.
We live in the same town.
We've never met, but we used toplay.
Yeah, but me and I'm actuallythe third guy there too but we
(16:07):
used to play pretty competitivegames online like four or five
times a week, you know, a fewhours a day.
Like we spent a lot of timeplaying games and that was for
years so obviously tell you, adecade playing games.
He went into streaming, yeah,around the same time I did.
We both, that's kind of liketeared it off because we stopped
(16:29):
playing those games, so westopped playing as much.
I actually haven't spoke to himor seen him in ages online.
I was only thinking about thatthe other day.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
It's like been a year or something since I've
actually last seen someone who Ihad so much to do with my wife
and who knew so much about mylife yeah, yeah, I think that's
part of it too, because you, youdo talk to people a lot, but
it's usually very surface level,like, hey, what did you stream
last night?
Hey, did you hear this thingthat that twitch did so?
(16:57):
Like, when you don't talk tothem regularly, you don't have
anything to connect with themabout after that.
You know, yeah, um, like thereare people that used to be in my
community all the time whostill like every single uh video
I put on tiktok.
Even I rarely do it now.
Or if I make a comment on avideo, they'll go and like the
comment, you know.
But it's like I don't have areason to reach out to them.
(17:18):
Like, what am I?
I didn't know you that.
I don't even know your realname, man, you know what I mean.
Like it's, it's strange.
That's another weird thing too,and this is probably just me
being older, being gen x, like I, sometimes I dare to call
people by their real name andthey're like no, just call me by
my handle, okay, yeah, yeah, Idon't care.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
But Whatever, I'll respond to all types of names.
I have a wife.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Not the four-letter ones, yeah, so it's interesting
how that all works.
Oh, yeah, you know, changinggears here, the Olympics is
going on.
You know, I brought my kid outfor his first driving lesson
ever and when we got done westopped at Buffalo Wild Wings to
get some food and they had theOlympics on.
(18:05):
He's 12, right, and I knowyou're the one who complains and
says he's 12.
You give him a driving lesson.
Yeah, you parent your own way,okay, anyway, we're watching it.
And then they have basketball.
They had, I think golf wasstill on.
They had women's volleyballyeah, that's where his eyes were
glued volleyball, yeah.
And so I'm like, oh, we gottahave a talk, huh, bud, you know.
(18:28):
So that was frightening.
So he drove and I realized, oh,oh, hormones, like in the same
day, and it was a lot.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
It was a lot for me, yeah, just this.
They can step from one stage tothe next, and that's when you
really notice the fact thatthey've grown up or they've
matured to this next stage.
Yeah, it's a lot when you hitit.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
It is a lot, did you?
How did you do the talk?
Do you have the talk?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
I don't know.
My wife and I actually talkedabout this the other night
because something was on TV.
I'm like I don't rememberhaving the talk.
I swear my mom just said here'sa video, watch it, or something
.
Here's a book or something.
And that's right, it was TV,we're watching TV, and it was
shit.
My wife loves reality TV shows.
You know your DesperateHousewives and Teen Mom and all
(19:18):
that shit.
And it was one of them and theywere talking about support for
women and girls in high schoolsand growing up in America and
understanding this.
And I was walking past the room.
I said why would they do that?
Like, don't you just have aclass?
Because, honestly, the schoolshere, I don't know what age it
starts now.
(19:38):
Class because, honestly, theschools here, I don't know what
age it starts now.
But there is classes in healthin australia for growing up and,
depending on the age, dependson you know the detail of it as
such, but usually around thatgrade seven, eight mark is where
the conversations start atschool and it's a permission
(19:59):
slip that goes home and theschool's like, hey, we're going
to talk about reproductive, andthey do split the groups off
into boys and girls and thenthey do ones together, you know,
obviously, because there'sdifferent things for each one
and the schools actually tacklemost of that.
You just tick a box, send apiece of paper back, you know,
and the schools handle that overhere.
So you don't really need tohave chat because school took
(20:22):
care of it.
You and my wife mentionedsomething and I said, oh, by the
line she goes oh, yeah, no, westill have to have, I still have
to have a chat with the girls.
I'm like, well, no, school justdid that.
Like why do you need to do that?
Yeah, apparently maybe it'ssmarter to still have that
conversation with your children.
But in my sense I was like,well, the school explained it, I
(20:42):
don't need to be.
Yeah, they got a question, I'msure they'll ask, but I don't
really want to have thatconversation.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah, it's an awkward conversation.
They did it in sixth grade,when I was growing up too
separate the boys and girls andI remember my sixth grade
teacher and his name was mrwilcox, I remember because you
know after he showed us a videoof what happens when you know
you get an erection.
He, you know kids, uh, I stillmasturbate and you know we, we,
we simultaneously in the room,you know but it was probably a
(21:11):
conversation you can't say tochildren it was.
It was surreal.
Nowadays he'd probably getfired and arrested instantly,
instantly.
But you know that's what he?
Yeah, it was creepy.
So that was that.
Unlock your childhood trauma.
Yeah, this is going to be avery different kind of podcast.
Now I don't have to talk to mythree-year-old Lie down on the
(21:32):
couch, so it's I don't know.
I asked my kid kind of circlingback there about it.
I'm like what but okay, I justwanna, I just wanna like support
him because, like I know verywell, and you probably remember
this too like your firstheartbreak, you feel like you
(21:54):
should just jump off a bridgeand I wanna make sure that I'm
involved enough so he can cometo me or his mom and talk about
it whenever it happens, you know.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
I think the best thing to do is just to touch
base a little bit, like hey,I've said it with my son a
little bit with the daughtersover the time.
So it's been like either yougot a girlfriend or something
like that, and he might say,yeah, or now, whatever, you want
to talk about things, let meknow.
Like I've been through, I'vegone through it all, man, I'm
happy to have chats if you everwant to ask questions or
(22:25):
something.
Yeah, you know, because I'vewatched my son do some stupid,
stupid stuff and I've mentionedthat on here multiple times.
I know through primary school,one of the girls that he had a
crush on was the deputyprincipal's daughter.
Oh, and at one stage heactually asked the deputy
principal if it would be allright if he could take her
(22:47):
Really.
Like dude, you picked the andat one stage he actually asked
the deputy principal if it wouldbe all right if he could take
it Really.
Like dude, you picked the wronggirl at the school.
You're putting a target on yourback.
Stay low, stay low.
But like I mean, our son's thesame age and I was asking my son
for ages there about underarmhair.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Like have you got underarm?
Speaker 2 (23:02):
hair yet no, no, I'm like, oh, let me have a look.
No, no, like he was really shyabout that, yeah, yeah.
And I'm just kind of like lookat this, let it go.
It's like I know you're good,things are gonna happen.
I'm sure you've heard about it.
You're gonna get hair therehair and lots of other places
you never bloody spoke about.
You know it's.
(23:23):
I think schools say enough or alot cover a lot, and I think,
as a parent, I don't think weneed to have the full chat like
you see in TV and movies abouthaving the chat, but it's a
great spot for us to say, hey, Iknow you've done this or you've
learned this in school.
If you want to ask questions ortalk about anything anymore
(23:45):
confused about anything, yeah,you know I'm here to have that
chat.
Yeah, want to ask questions ortalk about anything anymore
confused about anything?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
yeah, you know, I'm here to have that chat yeah, it
is a lot different now than youknow when I was growing up.
A lot of it has to do withinternet and the availability of
content, you know, yeah, yeah,there there were.
There are no mysteries nowadays.
For kids, there's no mysteries.
I feel like you have to talk tothem, even earlier than we
(24:12):
would probably talk to you,because any quick Google search
is going to turn up somethingthat you've got to talk about,
or the fact that they havephones and they're passing
pictures around.
That didn't happen back then,you know.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah that didn't happen back then, you know, yeah
, so there's a lot of additionalthings parents who are, you
know, in their mid-30s or 40s orolder, whatever need to think
about, because it was differentwhen you were younger I mean,
yeah, as much as the internetcan answer a lot of things and
and create a whole lot ofquestions, especially the say
(24:47):
year or so, two years, with themore powerful rise of AI, it's
actually created a whole lot ofmisconception as well, because
you can deepfake stuff way moreeasily, so much more
misinformation can be spread.
It's not as simple as justallowing the internet to answer
all those questions, becausethey could technically be going
(25:10):
down a path of something.
That's not true.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
The deepfake is crazy .
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Oh, it is so bad.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Although I was thinking of deepfaking myself
and looking really good andyoung, yeah, yeah, like, oh my
gosh, I can't believe someonewould make that, you know,
because I would like that Frameit, put it in the hallway, the
family could admire it.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Yeah, actually thinking about faking it.
I spoke about this when my sonwas born many years ago.
I actually wanted to try andage his photo like as a baby,
like age him to see what hewould look like at the age of
like 20 or something, yeah, andthen frame it like print it out,
frame it and then put it in thehouse.
So as he grew up over time hewould be trying to like who's
(25:58):
that person?
Nah, it doesn't matter, itdoesn't matter.
And then when he got to thatage, or very close to that age,
I would hopefully hope that thepicture would look very similar
to him, and then he wouldrealize that this photo that had
been in the house for 20 yearswas actually him this whole time
.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
And then I could tell him that he was a time traveler
that's literally what I wasgoing to say if you made it a
regular story.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
But yes, yes, my whole plan was to display those
10 20.
You were there yeah you're timetraveling like.
I wanted to deep fake his owntime traveling history into him.
Just completely Mind fuckingfurther.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
And then you Photoshop yourself into it.
Yeah, you have your arm aroundhim.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And, by the way, for peoplelistening, yes, it's the kind of
dads we are.
Pray for our children, I guess.
Yeah, this has been a reallywide ranging conversation it has
, but yeah, it's fun you've beenlistening to dad mode.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
our passion is navigating this wild journey of
parenthood and modern life, frombalancing family time to
managing your career and stillsqueezing in some gaming and
content creation.
And no matter what the womensay, they will never be able to
pry the controller out of ourcold dead hands.
(27:20):
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