December 24, 2024 • 17 mins
Can embracing your deepest desires lead to a life of fulfillment and gratitude? Together with Brenda and Catherine, let's explore the transformative power of desire and gratitude in shaping who we aspire to become. Brenda shares the "havingness expander" practice by Regina Thomas Shower, a tool designed to open our hearts to receive and appreciate more in life. How to have more is truly a skill that isn't spoken about enough. Catherine brings a heartfelt story from her past, illustrating how gratitude and faith became her anchors during turbulent times. We unpack the spiritual practice of embracing desire, acknowledging the discomfort it may bring, and learning to say yes to our dreams despite the uncertainties.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome to Desire is Medicine.
We are two very different womenliving a life led by desire,
inviting you into our world.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I'm Brenda.
I'm a devoted practitioner tobeing my fully expressed true
self in my daily life.
Motherhood relationships and mybusiness Desire has taken me on
quite a ride and every day Ipractice listening to and
following the voice within.
I'm a middle school teacherturned coach and guide of the
feminine.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
And I'm Catherine, devoted to living my life as the
truest and hopefully thehighest version of me.
I don't have children.
I've never been married.
I spent equal parts of my lifein corporate as in some down and
low shady spaces.
I was the epitome of tired andwired, and my path led me to
explore desire.
I'm a coach, guide, energyworker and a forever student,
(00:58):
even after decades of inner work.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
We are humble beginners on the mat, still
exploring, always curious.
We believe that listening toand following the nudge of
desire is a deep spiritualpractice that helps us grow.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
On the Desires Medicine podcast.
We talk to each other, weinterview people we know and
love about the practice ofdesire, bringing in a very
important piece that is oftenoverlooked being responsible for
our desire peace that is oftenoverlooked.
Being responsible for ourdesire Fitting with discomfort.
(01:33):
We have been talking abouthaving this.
We have been talking about howmuch is enough.
We're talking about desire andleaning into becoming the person
that gets to have what you want.
Brenda and I had this gorgeousepisode where we sort of just
went over what had us actuallymove the needle the smoothest or
the fastest.
Like, in hindsight, what do weactually see has been beneficial
(01:57):
for us in gaining access to ourdesires?
And it was a great overviewbecause we get to sort of like
look back one decade, twodecades, three decades Okay,
what in the four decades plusgot us here.
But when we're not looking atdecade work and we're just
(02:18):
talking about, all right,something just happened and I
feel super uncomfortable.
Or I have this desire, I wantto lean into this thing that I'm
going to have or that I want tohave, and how do I be with it?
How do I say yes while stillbeing uncomfortable Because I
(02:41):
don't know how I'm going to getthere.
I don't know how I'm going toget it.
I don't know if I'm going toget there.
I don't know how I'm going toget it.
I don't know if I'm going toget it.
Ooh, like just goosebumps.
Right, and there are somepractices that you can do on a
daily basis.
Brenda's going to get into thatbut one of the practices is
(03:04):
saying thank you for everythingthat I have to God and I want to
share that.
That is the one that I use themost, especially during my teen
years.
There was a time when I was justgoing through a really hard
time.
I was in full grief.
It was the first year after mymom's passing and I would often
(03:30):
feel just so bogged down.
I was in a new school in NewYork.
I was an A student over there.
I was kind of like an F studentmore because I just the
education system was verydifferent.
So that's neither here northere.
(03:50):
The point is I had to study alot and I would come home at
like six and just study from sixto 12.
It was like six hours of studydaily for myself to catch myself
up.
In ninth grade.
I didn't have any of my friendsthere.
I didn't have any of my familythere.
I didn't have any of my familythere.
I mean, I had family, butfamily that I hadn't really
grown up with.
So I felt lonely, stretched,full of grief and just
(04:15):
experiencing a new life.
So I turned to my faith and Iwould say thank you God for
being here with me, thank youGod for giving me another day,
(04:35):
thank you God for helping mefind the strength, thank you God
.
Thank you God for having me notbe alone, and I can honestly say
that that just helped me liveas many days as I needed, while
(04:56):
I was fully at the bottom as ateen, just really not knowing
how to hold myself up, reallynot knowing how to hold myself
up.
So I wanted to definitelyintroduce that tool because I
have an embodied like a realembodied experience of what that
was like for me and that was atool that, to this day, I find
(05:20):
very helpful.
And sometimes I'm just likewalking through the world going
God, can you believe that?
I'm just like chatting it upand saying thank you, because
the truth is that often I canget really caught up in what I
don't have, really thinkingabout my desires, really
thinking about all the things Ididn't accomplish, and talking
(05:42):
to God really humbles me.
When I talk out, I actually dothis out loud.
It humbles me because it helpsremind me of how far I've come,
and the truth is that I haveactually been able to create a
lot, not just intangible things,but I have a particular peace
(06:04):
and internal freedom that Inever thought would be possible,
and so here, as everyonewitnessing me, I say thank you,
god for everything that I have,brenda.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Thank you, catherine.
That was really gorgeous.
You can really feel.
I love when you said that youhave this embodied and I want to
share with our listeners thatthat's what it feels like when
somebody has something embodied,like you can freaking feel your
heart when you talk about that.
So thank you for not onlysharing that little practice but
showing us what it means toreally have something embodied.
(06:46):
So this having this expanderpractice actually has six, six
little parts, and that was oneof them.
And this practice came fromRegina Thomas shower, from the,
from the School of Womanly Arts,when I did that program.
I don't know where it came frombefore that, maybe she created
(07:06):
it, I don't know, but I did notcreate it, catherine, and I did
not create it Although we'vedone all the parts of this, but
we're putting it together andRegina had this beautiful
havingness expander.
When things are feeling crunchy,when you're hitting up against
your own personal limit of whatyou feel that you could have,
you can actually expand yourhavingness, your ability to have
(07:28):
more, because we do always wantmore.
So number one is emptyingwhat's full, so you're full.
What does that mean?
It means think of it like a cupof water.
Your cup is just right to thetop.
Maybe you've had somethingreally good happen in your life.
(07:50):
Like me, recently I got a newcar.
Maybe you went on a greatvacation.
Maybe you had a beautiful daywith your family and you're just
feeling so fulfilled in yourlife.
Maybe you went on a greatvacation.
Maybe you had a beautiful daywith your family and you're just
feeling so fulfilled in yourlife.
Maybe you learned somethingreally new.
Maybe you leaned into a desire,whatever it was, you are having
(08:11):
something new in your lifethat's filling you up, and so
sometimes we actually getcrunchy when we hit that limit
of what we feel we could have.
So what do we do with a cup ofwater?
We don't want it to spill.
We empty it a little bit.
So this practice is emptyingwhat's full, which is doing
(08:35):
anonymous acts of good.
This is one way that you coulddo it.
There's lots of ways.
We're just giving you this one.
So doing anonymous acts of goodthis is one way that you could
do it.
There's lots of ways.
We're just giving you this one.
So doing anonymous acts of goodis so much fun.
You're just emptying out.
I like to do this in so manydifferent ways.
Sometimes I just like to helpsomebody in the grocery store.
Sometimes I just I'll just walkaround and I'll smile at people
and talk to them, or talk tosomebody older on the boardwalk
(08:58):
that looks like they're alone.
I'll just spark up aconversation.
Another little anonymous act ofgood that I like to do is I
sometimes will take dollar billsand I'll fold them up and I'll
just put them places.
So I'll put one, like at thetrain station in the little
place where you get the ticket,or in the grocery store next to
(09:19):
a pack of cookies, and I knowsomewhere someone is going to
find this dollar bill.
So, whatever that means to you,some kind of random act of
kindness, anonymous act of good.
The second one is this beautifulpractice that Catherine just
shared with us, which is sayingthank you for everything that
(09:39):
you have.
And the third one is alongthose same lines.
It's a list of gratitudes.
Gratitude is a beautiful way totake in and capital.
H-a-v-e.
Have what you're having in yourlife.
H-a-v-e.
(10:04):
Have what you're having in yourlife and like integrate it into
your body is just writing out alist of gratitudes, and that
could mean expressing them,maybe not, that's up to you.
It is really beautiful toexpress gratitude.
I know I, when I do thisgratitude practice, I get so
filled up with joy and fullnessand appreciation.
It just feels so good that thenext natural step for me is to
(10:30):
express it.
So that's just also another wayof emptying what's full and
emptying out.
Okay, ready for number four.
And emptying out Okay, readyfor number four.
When you pass a mirror, look atyour reflection, wink at
(10:52):
yourself and say I love you.
It feels maybe a little bitsilly at first, but this is just
one little practice to beself-loving towards yourself.
One little practice to beself-loving towards yourself.
Look in the mirror and you'rehaving that intimacy with
yourself.
You're looking at yourself.
You're saying this is who I am,this is my life, this is the
(11:12):
life that I'm creating.
This is the woman with the newcar, this is the woman who just
took the vacation to Europe thatI really wanted to take.
And I'm looking at myself inthe eye and I'm going yeah, this
is me, thank you and wink Ilove you.
Fun little practice and thatyou could do anytime.
(11:35):
Okay, number five is a reallyfun one.
This one is actually from theDrs Badansky.
We recently had Steve Badanskyon our podcast, and he has spent
his life learning and teachingwith his wife, vera, about
pleasure and orgasm.
So this one is an exercise thathe wrote in his book called
(11:59):
Visiting Dignitary Exercise.
So this is I'm going to sum itup and then I'm going to tell
you where you can find thepractice.
The visiting dignitary ispreparing your space as if the
queen was coming to visit,except you are the queen.
If the queen was coming tovisit except you are the queen
(12:25):
we so often, when we're havingcompany or say you're having
very important company, likemaybe the queen is coming to
visit you, you would definitelyclean up your house, you would
definitely get flowers, youwould definitely take out your
best china, you would definitelyput some care into what you're
going to eat or drink right, andwe do that for other people all
the time.
But this exercise, the visitingdignitarypleasuring during that
(12:46):
time.
So you could do that.
(13:08):
And if you don't want toactually do the self-pleasure
sexual piece, you can just setthat space up for yourself and
read, you can rest, you candance, you can write whatever it
is that you want.
And this exercise, if you wantto read more about it, it's in
their book called theIllustrated Guide to the
(13:31):
Extended Massive Orgasm, andthen he also talks about it in
his book called Self-Pleasure.
Both books I highly recommend.
Okay, we're up to number six.
You ready?
She's clapping, she's clappingand snapping over there.
Okay, number six is celebratethe good.
Celebrate the good and brag,brag, brag.
(13:55):
You can go back to exit, exit.
You can go back to episode 49where we did the desire quad
practice and we talked moreabout bragging.
But bragging is celebrating thegood in your life.
Women generally like to onedown each other.
They like to say oh yeah, yourlife is bad, my life is even
(14:16):
worse.
It's like who gets a prize forbeing the biggest victim.
Men are just naturally good atone upping each other.
Women are really good at onedowning each other.
So this is brag.
Say what's good about your life, say what you created.
Really toot your own horn, andthis is very different than
(14:36):
boasting.
You're not putting yourselfabove somebody else, you are
just honoring and celebratingthe good that you have created
in your life.
That is powerful.
So these are the six steps tothe havingness expander.
I'm just going to state themagain.
(14:57):
Number one anonymous acts ofgood, emptying what's full.
Number two say thank you foreverything that I have.
Number three make a list ofgratitudes every day or as often
as you need.
Number four when you pass amirror, look at your reflection
and wink and say I love you.
(15:17):
Number five a visitingdignitary exercise by the Drs
Badansky.
And number six brag, and youcan do these at any time.
You don't have to do all sixpeople, you can just do the one
that's accessible to you.
You could do one today, onetomorrow, but all of these
(15:37):
activities are designed for youto integrate the goodness of
your life into your body andexpand your havingness, so that
you can not only have what youhave now in your life and honor
it, but also open up to more.
So that is the havingness.
(15:58):
Expand your practice, catherine.
Anything that you'd like to say?
Or maybe, why don't?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
you just close us out .
Thank you so much, brenda, forsharing all those steps, those
possibilities for us when wefeel crunchy, when we feel full,
that can I know.
You gave some examples of that,like buying your car.
I would say, potentially, ifyou have a full day with people,
(16:25):
if you're like a um, somebodywho potentially self-proclaimed
hibernator, that at the end ofthat day you do something for
yourself to really ground and belike all right in your own
energy.
Uh, thank you so much for justdoing such a great job at
(16:45):
describing all of those for us.
This is a great thing to usewhen you feel full, when you
feel crunchy.
Crunchy means like, oh, you'rekind of irritable and you would
just really like to empty out soyou could have space for more.
And with that, thank you somuch.
Thank you to everybody wholistened, because without you we
don't have a podcast until nexttime.
(17:06):
Thank you.
Thank you for joining us on theDesire is Medicine podcast
Desire invites us to be honest,loving and deeply intimate with
ourselves and others.
You can find our handles in theshow notes.
We'd love to hear from you.
Welcome to Desire is Medicine.
We are two very different womenliving a life led by desire,
inviting you into our world.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
I'm Brenda.
I'm a devoted practitioner tobeing my fully expressed true
self in my daily life.
Motherhood relationships and mybusiness Desire has taken me on
quite a ride and every day Ipractice listening to and
following the voice within.
I'm a middle school teacherturned coach and guide of the
feminine.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
And I'm Catherine, devoted to living my life as the
truest and hopefully thehighest version of me.
I don't have children.
I've never been married.
I spent equal parts of my lifein corporate as in some down and
low shady spaces.
I was the epitome of tired andwired, and my path led me to
explore desire.
I'm a coach, guide, energyworker and a forever student,
(00:58):
even after decades of inner work.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
We are humble beginners on the mat, still
exploring, always curious.
We believe that listening toand following the nudge of
desire is a deep spiritualpractice that helps us grow.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
On the Desires Medicine podcast.
We talk to each other, weinterview people we know and
love about the practice ofdesire, bringing in a very
important piece that is oftenoverlooked being responsible for
our desire peace that is oftenoverlooked.
Being responsible for ourdesire Fitting with discomfort.
(01:33):
We have been talking abouthaving this.
We have been talking about howmuch is enough.
We're talking about desire andleaning into becoming the person
that gets to have what you want.
Brenda and I had this gorgeousepisode where we sort of just
went over what had us actuallymove the needle the smoothest or
the fastest.
Like, in hindsight, what do weactually see has been beneficial
(01:57):
for us in gaining access to ourdesires?
And it was a great overviewbecause we get to sort of like
look back one decade, twodecades, three decades Okay,
what in the four decades plusgot us here.
But when we're not looking atdecade work and we're just
(02:18):
talking about, all right,something just happened and I
feel super uncomfortable.
Or I have this desire, I wantto lean into this thing that I'm
going to have or that I want tohave, and how do I be with it?
How do I say yes while stillbeing uncomfortable Because I
(02:41):
don't know how I'm going to getthere.
I don't know how I'm going toget it.
I don't know if I'm going toget there.
I don't know how I'm going toget it.
I don't know if I'm going toget it.
Ooh, like just goosebumps.
Right, and there are somepractices that you can do on a
daily basis.
Brenda's going to get into thatbut one of the practices is
(03:04):
saying thank you for everythingthat I have to God and I want to
share that.
That is the one that I use themost, especially during my teen
years.
There was a time when I was justgoing through a really hard
time.
I was in full grief.
It was the first year after mymom's passing and I would often
(03:30):
feel just so bogged down.
I was in a new school in NewYork.
I was an A student over there.
I was kind of like an F studentmore because I just the
education system was verydifferent.
So that's neither here northere.
(03:50):
The point is I had to study alot and I would come home at
like six and just study from sixto 12.
It was like six hours of studydaily for myself to catch myself
up.
In ninth grade.
I didn't have any of my friendsthere.
I didn't have any of my familythere.
I didn't have any of my familythere.
I mean, I had family, butfamily that I hadn't really
grown up with.
So I felt lonely, stretched,full of grief and just
(04:15):
experiencing a new life.
So I turned to my faith and Iwould say thank you God for
being here with me, thank youGod for giving me another day,
(04:35):
thank you God for helping mefind the strength, thank you God
.
Thank you God for having me notbe alone, and I can honestly say
that that just helped me liveas many days as I needed, while
(04:56):
I was fully at the bottom as ateen, just really not knowing
how to hold myself up, reallynot knowing how to hold myself
up.
So I wanted to definitelyintroduce that tool because I
have an embodied like a realembodied experience of what that
was like for me and that was atool that, to this day, I find
(05:20):
very helpful.
And sometimes I'm just likewalking through the world going
God, can you believe that?
I'm just like chatting it upand saying thank you, because
the truth is that often I canget really caught up in what I
don't have, really thinkingabout my desires, really
thinking about all the things Ididn't accomplish, and talking
(05:42):
to God really humbles me.
When I talk out, I actually dothis out loud.
It humbles me because it helpsremind me of how far I've come,
and the truth is that I haveactually been able to create a
lot, not just intangible things,but I have a particular peace
(06:04):
and internal freedom that Inever thought would be possible,
and so here, as everyonewitnessing me, I say thank you,
god for everything that I have,brenda.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Thank you, catherine.
That was really gorgeous.
You can really feel.
I love when you said that youhave this embodied and I want to
share with our listeners thatthat's what it feels like when
somebody has something embodied,like you can freaking feel your
heart when you talk about that.
So thank you for not onlysharing that little practice but
showing us what it means toreally have something embodied.
(06:46):
So this having this expanderpractice actually has six, six
little parts, and that was oneof them.
And this practice came fromRegina Thomas shower, from the,
from the School of Womanly Arts,when I did that program.
I don't know where it came frombefore that, maybe she created
(07:06):
it, I don't know, but I did notcreate it, catherine, and I did
not create it Although we'vedone all the parts of this, but
we're putting it together andRegina had this beautiful
havingness expander.
When things are feeling crunchy,when you're hitting up against
your own personal limit of whatyou feel that you could have,
you can actually expand yourhavingness, your ability to have
(07:28):
more, because we do always wantmore.
So number one is emptyingwhat's full, so you're full.
What does that mean?
It means think of it like a cupof water.
Your cup is just right to thetop.
Maybe you've had somethingreally good happen in your life.
(07:50):
Like me, recently I got a newcar.
Maybe you went on a greatvacation.
Maybe you had a beautiful daywith your family and you're just
feeling so fulfilled in yourlife.
Maybe you went on a greatvacation.
Maybe you had a beautiful daywith your family and you're just
feeling so fulfilled in yourlife.
Maybe you learned somethingreally new.
Maybe you leaned into a desire,whatever it was, you are having
(08:11):
something new in your lifethat's filling you up, and so
sometimes we actually getcrunchy when we hit that limit
of what we feel we could have.
So what do we do with a cup ofwater?
We don't want it to spill.
We empty it a little bit.
So this practice is emptyingwhat's full, which is doing
(08:35):
anonymous acts of good.
This is one way that you coulddo it.
There's lots of ways.
We're just giving you this one.
So doing anonymous acts of goodthis is one way that you could
do it.
There's lots of ways.
We're just giving you this one.
So doing anonymous acts of goodis so much fun.
You're just emptying out.
I like to do this in so manydifferent ways.
Sometimes I just like to helpsomebody in the grocery store.
Sometimes I just I'll just walkaround and I'll smile at people
and talk to them, or talk tosomebody older on the boardwalk
(08:58):
that looks like they're alone.
I'll just spark up aconversation.
Another little anonymous act ofgood that I like to do is I
sometimes will take dollar billsand I'll fold them up and I'll
just put them places.
So I'll put one, like at thetrain station in the little
place where you get the ticket,or in the grocery store next to
(09:19):
a pack of cookies, and I knowsomewhere someone is going to
find this dollar bill.
So, whatever that means to you,some kind of random act of
kindness, anonymous act of good.
The second one is this beautifulpractice that Catherine just
shared with us, which is sayingthank you for everything that
(09:39):
you have.
And the third one is alongthose same lines.
It's a list of gratitudes.
Gratitude is a beautiful way totake in and capital.
H-a-v-e.
Have what you're having in yourlife.
H-a-v-e.
(10:04):
Have what you're having in yourlife and like integrate it into
your body is just writing out alist of gratitudes, and that
could mean expressing them,maybe not, that's up to you.
It is really beautiful toexpress gratitude.
I know I, when I do thisgratitude practice, I get so
filled up with joy and fullnessand appreciation.
It just feels so good that thenext natural step for me is to
(10:30):
express it.
So that's just also another wayof emptying what's full and
emptying out.
Okay, ready for number four.
And emptying out Okay, readyfor number four.
When you pass a mirror, look atyour reflection, wink at
(10:52):
yourself and say I love you.
It feels maybe a little bitsilly at first, but this is just
one little practice to beself-loving towards yourself.
One little practice to beself-loving towards yourself.
Look in the mirror and you'rehaving that intimacy with
yourself.
You're looking at yourself.
You're saying this is who I am,this is my life, this is the
(11:12):
life that I'm creating.
This is the woman with the newcar, this is the woman who just
took the vacation to Europe thatI really wanted to take.
And I'm looking at myself inthe eye and I'm going yeah, this
is me, thank you and wink Ilove you.
Fun little practice and thatyou could do anytime.
(11:35):
Okay, number five is a reallyfun one.
This one is actually from theDrs Badansky.
We recently had Steve Badanskyon our podcast, and he has spent
his life learning and teachingwith his wife, vera, about
pleasure and orgasm.
So this one is an exercise thathe wrote in his book called
(11:59):
Visiting Dignitary Exercise.
So this is I'm going to sum itup and then I'm going to tell
you where you can find thepractice.
The visiting dignitary ispreparing your space as if the
queen was coming to visit,except you are the queen.
If the queen was coming tovisit except you are the queen
(12:25):
we so often, when we're havingcompany or say you're having
very important company, likemaybe the queen is coming to
visit you, you would definitelyclean up your house, you would
definitely get flowers, youwould definitely take out your
best china, you would definitelyput some care into what you're
going to eat or drink right, andwe do that for other people all
the time.
But this exercise, the visitingdignitarypleasuring during that
(12:46):
time.
So you could do that.
(13:08):
And if you don't want toactually do the self-pleasure
sexual piece, you can just setthat space up for yourself and
read, you can rest, you candance, you can write whatever it
is that you want.
And this exercise, if you wantto read more about it, it's in
their book called theIllustrated Guide to the
(13:31):
Extended Massive Orgasm, andthen he also talks about it in
his book called Self-Pleasure.
Both books I highly recommend.
Okay, we're up to number six.
You ready?
She's clapping, she's clappingand snapping over there.
Okay, number six is celebratethe good.
Celebrate the good and brag,brag, brag.
(13:55):
You can go back to exit, exit.
You can go back to episode 49where we did the desire quad
practice and we talked moreabout bragging.
But bragging is celebrating thegood in your life.
Women generally like to onedown each other.
They like to say oh yeah, yourlife is bad, my life is even
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worse.
It's like who gets a prize forbeing the biggest victim.
Men are just naturally good atone upping each other.
Women are really good at onedowning each other.
So this is brag.
Say what's good about your life, say what you created.
Really toot your own horn, andthis is very different than
(14:36):
boasting.
You're not putting yourselfabove somebody else, you are
just honoring and celebratingthe good that you have created
in your life.
That is powerful.
So these are the six steps tothe havingness expander.
I'm just going to state themagain.
(14:57):
Number one anonymous acts ofgood, emptying what's full.
Number two say thank you foreverything that I have.
Number three make a list ofgratitudes every day or as often
as you need.
Number four when you pass amirror, look at your reflection
and wink and say I love you.
(15:17):
Number five a visitingdignitary exercise by the Drs
Badansky.
And number six brag, and youcan do these at any time.
You don't have to do all sixpeople, you can just do the one
that's accessible to you.
You could do one today, onetomorrow, but all of these
(15:37):
activities are designed for youto integrate the goodness of
your life into your body andexpand your havingness, so that
you can not only have what youhave now in your life and honor
it, but also open up to more.
So that is the havingness.
(15:58):
Expand your practice, catherine.
Anything that you'd like to say?
Or maybe, why don't?
Speaker 1 (16:04):
you just close us out .
Thank you so much, brenda, forsharing all those steps, those
possibilities for us when wefeel crunchy, when we feel full,
that can I know.
You gave some examples of that,like buying your car.
I would say, potentially, ifyou have a full day with people,
(16:25):
if you're like a um, somebodywho potentially self-proclaimed
hibernator, that at the end ofthat day you do something for
yourself to really ground and belike all right in your own
energy.
Uh, thank you so much for justdoing such a great job at
(16:45):
describing all of those for us.
This is a great thing to usewhen you feel full, when you
feel crunchy.
Crunchy means like, oh, you'rekind of irritable and you would
just really like to empty out soyou could have space for more.
And with that, thank you somuch.
Thank you to everybody wholistened, because without you we
don't have a podcast until nexttime.
(17:06):
Thank you.
Thank you for joining us on theDesire is Medicine podcast
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