April 23, 2025 • 39 mins
Al and Marty chat about all sorts of fun facts and take a few side roads along the way.
The ones that got away
The boys discuss songs that were passed on by famous artists. We all know who ultimately made these songs a hit but who were they offered to first? Call me, Toxic, Umbrella, Physical, We built this city, Don’t you forget about me and Golden Years.
Ten Pound Poms
A fun discussion about the scheme initiated by the Australian Government in 1945 after the Second World War to increase our population. The Ten Pound Poms were British citizens who migrated with assisted passage to Australia on chartered ships and aircraft. Paying the princely sum of ten pounds for adults and free travel for kids.
As a Ten Pound Pom himself, Marty recalls his family’s adventure of making the big move from London to Brisbane in the sixties. And we chat through a list of famous Aussies from the fields of sport, music and public life who we’re glad also made the trip to this wide brown land.
Dangerous toys
We discuss dodgy and dangerous toys from our childhood. Especially Click Clacks and the Slip ‘N Slide. Of course, Marty has a cracking story to share about some highly dangerous fun from when he was knocking around in The Gap as a kid.
Random facts that changed history
These events prove that the truth really is stranger than fiction. You can’t help but wonder how things might have been if they hadn’t happened.
Bill Murray becomes a stand-up comedian.
A key moment in the Titanic disaster.
The man who survived two atomic bomb blasts.
Elanor Rigby’s grave.
Random fun facts
The Night's Watch cloaks
Lemons and limes
A T-Rex with feathers?
Say ‘Prunes’
A crazy Pulp Fiction fact
Apparently Quentin Tarantino’s favourite Bewitched scene. Here’s the link:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3cFkXSgfjg
If you have a fun fact you’d like us to share, send us an email to: funfactsandsidetracks@gmail.com or leave us a comment online at our social pages on Facebook or Instagram Thanks for listening and never be afraid to get sidetracked.
The boring disclaimer: We do try to double-check all of the facts we talk about. If something isn’t quite correct, we humbly apologise. Credit to our many sources including, A History of Rock Music in 500 Songs, Tim from Kicking Harold, Mental Floss, Wikipedia and so many more.
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Speaker 00 (00:01):
Hello and welcome to Fun Facts and Sidetracks.
This is the podcast where wetake a look at those things that
often make you think, how didthat ever happen?
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or more to the point, what evenpossessed someone to think that
that was a good idea.
My name's Al, and with me asalways is my good friend, Mart.
How are you, mate?
Speaker 01 (00:30):
I'm very well, Al.
Very well.
Good week?
Great week.
Yeah.
Lots of hard work done, and nowit's good to be here.
Speaker 00 (00:37):
Got some fun facts to bring to the show?
Speaker 01 (00:40):
Certainly.
Excellent.
Speaker 00 (00:41):
Now, quick disclaimer before we get
started.
We don't claim to be experts.
We're just mates chatting aboutall sorts of things that
interest us.
For each episode, we spread thenet far and why using our
limited knowledge of all sortsof things that amuse us.
And we rely on web searchingand we also delve into our
memory banks for some funnystories that usually take us a
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little off track, just likewhenever we catch up, mate.
Speaker 02 (01:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 00 (01:08):
So the facts we discuss are correct, as we know.
But please don't sue us.
So we've got some fun stuff tochat about.
Let's wade into the wonderfulworld of history and pop
culture.
And if you think we've got itwrong, send us a message.
Absolutely.
Send us a message tofunfactsandsidetracks at
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gmail.com.
Love to hear it.
But we'd much rather hearpositive feedback.
Because usually I'm full ofshit.
So first up, Mark, we both loveour music.
Definitely.
You were a professionalmusician for a long time.
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Well, yeah, I was a
Speaker 01 (01:51):
professional musician for 16 years, but a
solo musician.
Speaker 00 (01:56):
And I'm a terrible guitarist, but I love music.
So over the years, we'veamassed a bit of history with
music.
So we thought we'd have apretty regular segment that is
called The One That Got Away.
And this is really about...
those songs or those bands thatwere offered something, and for
whatever reason, it neverreally happened.
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So the classic example would bethe record company exec that
didn't hire the Beatles.
Bit of an epic career failthere.
But equally, there's a wholebunch of songs that have been
offered to people, and forwhatever reason, they didn't
take them.
First up.
It's
Speaker 01 (02:36):
just the whole chemistry.
It's like...
it's like it all falls intoplace.
Like the things line up to getthat chemistry.
Yeah.
You know, whether it's someonewho's got the wrong song or
whatever, but it's, it's so fineline that things line up and
then it takes off.
Yeah.
And it's an incredible thingreally when you think about it.
Speaker 00 (02:55):
Well, sometimes it seems like it's timing as well.
Like a song comes along andsomebody says, no, my album's
already full.
Yes.
So thanks very much, but I'llpass.
And then obviously, you know,when it wins a Grammy, they're
going, oh, doh! Yeah, but thenthey probably could have done it
with a sound crap.
Well, might have too.
I mean, here's the first reallygood example.
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Fun fact, the song Call Me byBlondie.
And that wasn't offered toBlondie initially.
That was offered to StevieNicks.
Stevie Nicks.
Wow.
Yeah.
And she might have done a greatjob of it.
I'd like to hear the version.
Yeah, it's Blondie's song.
Yeah, totally.
And You know, it was written byGiorgio Moroder.
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He was just like a hit machinein the 70s and early 80s.
Offered it to Stevie Nicks.
Her people said no.
I think there was some sort ofcontractual thing.
And Blondie, of course, werejust red hot at the time.
And it landed in Debbie Harry'slap.
And she said, yep, we'll havethat.
She was very punky, wasn't she?
(04:00):
Yeah.
i remember her being very punkyyeah she came out of that new
wave scene yeah so a lot of ofher stuff if you ever see
footage of CBGB which was thethe club in New York yeah the
little club the grungy club yeahso you've got you've got
Blondie and you've got TalkingHeads and you've got The Ramones
you've got Television all thesebands if you ever see vision of
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that it's just great becauseit's this funny little stage in
this funny little club butthere's tiny little club awesome
music coming out of it
Speaker 01 (04:30):
lots of drugs Lots of
Speaker 00 (04:31):
alcohol.
Speaker 01 (04:32):
Lots of
Speaker 00 (04:33):
so-called creative people.
Speaker 01 (04:35):
Probably.
Speaker 00 (04:36):
Probably.
But awesome music.
Yeah.
And, you know, it's a bit likeif you see footage of the Cabin
Club or something in Liverpoolor like, you know, Studio 54 or
something.
Yeah.
It's just a moment in time, youknow.
Anyway, so Blondie just, theymade that song their own and
that was it.
Yeah.
I love Blondie.
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I think pretty well every guyloves
Speaker 01 (04:59):
Blondie.
Yeah.
Like you don't expect her to bepunky.
Speaker 00 (05:02):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, that's right.
Yeah.
But she had that edge.
She did.
And in fact, first fun fact forthe episode, although not such
a fun fact.
is that Debbie Harry in the mid70s was a massive fan of a band
called the New York dolls andNew York dolls are pretty out
there i think they were theykind of dressed up in the glam
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gear well before kiss did youknow yep but she was going to
one of their gigs she waswearing shoes that didn't really
suit walking a long way to getto the gig yeah this guy pulls
up in a v-dub pretty handsomeguy offers her a lift and she
goes no no go away he circlesback and keeps driving along
next to her eventually she getsin as soon as she gets in she
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goes something's not right herethere's no door handles on the
inside right wow I'm picturingthis he hangs a big u-turn and
starts speeding off she somehowmanages to get the window down
she must have opened the doorfrom the outside and kind of
tumbles out wow how did shethink of that yeah I know like
how did she think of that inthat moment well the bizarre
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thing of course is years latershe sees an article about serial
killer Ted Bundy and sherecognises that that's the guy
who offered her that lift wowTed Bundy that's just scary
right wow yeah Not
Speaker 01 (06:27):
so fun fact.
I wonder if he was related toAl Bundy.
Because that's who I thought itwas when I heard.
I thought, wow, Al Bundy.
Right Peg.
Speaker 00 (06:39):
Yeah.
Okay, here's another one foryou.
So, Toxic, which was one ofBritney Spears' most famous
hits.
Wow.
That was actually offered toMiss Kylie Minogue, who I think
at the time...
already had an album full ofsongs and decided that that
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wasn't for her.
It was actually written forJanet Jackson, who also passed
on the song.
Speaker 01 (07:05):
So was Kylie...
She'd gone through thelocomotion stage.
She was a star.
Speaker 00 (07:12):
Yeah, it's well after that.
Yeah, sort of Showgirl toursort of territory.
I think it might have beenwhen, you know, she was going
through breast cancer and stuff.
So not really a super expert onKyles.
But nevertheless, it's amassive song to pass up on.
And, you know, again...
Songs like that, another reallygood example is, if we go back
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a few more years, Physical.
Yeah.
Which, you know, everyone knowsis Olivia Newton-John.
Yeah, Olivia nuclear bomb.
Exactly.
Olivia neutron bomb.
Her biggest hit, best-sellingnumber one.
That was actually written forRod Stewart.
so yeah tights I know it's nothard to imagine in leotards and
(08:00):
you know animal prints and allthat from yeah long hair blondes
have more fun and all thatstuff yeah but yeah that was
written for Rod Stewart andapparently he passed on it and
Livvie's people went, yep, we'llhave that.
And the rest is history.
Speaker 01 (08:13):
Yeah.
Yeah, I suppose.
Rod Stewart singing that in theraunchy, raspy voice.
I can see him bouncing aroundthe stage with leg warmers on.
Can't see him in
Speaker 00 (08:24):
the gym, though.
Anyway, here's another one foryou.
So we mentioned Britney Spearsbefore.
So Rihanna's, probably herbiggest hit, Umbrella, was
actually offered to Britney.
And again...
she didn't want it because herBlackout album was already full.
Yeah.
And so she passed on it.
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And of course, Rihanna, who'sobviously got a good ear for a
hit.
Yes.
I'm going to have that nomatter what.
Apparently, even at the GrammyAwards, the person who wrote it,
she just went up to them andwent, you're not giving that
song to anyone else.
I'm taking that.
And again, the rest is history.
Wow.
Massive hit.
Speaker 01 (09:04):
It must be really exciting to actually visualize a
song that's going to be a hit.
Speaker 00 (09:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 01 (09:12):
You know?
Speaker 00 (09:12):
Yeah,
Speaker 01 (09:13):
yeah.
Yeah.
And these people that writethese songs...
It's incredible when they writeit and they don't think it's a
hit, but they just play it andthen someone will listen to it.
I think Cliff Richard waslistening to a Beatles at the
studio once.
He was at the studio at thesame time and he and Paul
McCartney, I can't remember whatthe song was.
It could have been I Will.
Oh, yeah.
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You know, who knows how longI've loved you.
And he played that to CliffRichards.
He said, what do you think ofthis?
And he just thought, wow, whata song.
Yeah.
Yeah.
As you would.
Yeah, yeah.
And a hit, a hit, when you heara hit, it's like you've heard
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it before.
Yeah.
I don't know, with me, when youhear a song for the first time,
you go, wow, like when you hearDire Straits or you hear The
Beatles or, and the song, you'veonly got to hear it once and
you go, wow.
Unknown (10:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 01 (10:08):
It's as though you've heard it before because
it stays in your mind.
Speaker 00 (10:11):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 01 (10:12):
And you just want to hear it again.
Yeah.
Well, that's the way it used tobe on the radio.
Speaker 00 (10:15):
Well, I mean, a really good example of what
you're saying, Don't You ForgetAbout Me by Simple Minds, right?
Again, you hear that song andyou go, how did anyone ever
think, oh, no, I don't wantthat.
That's rubbish.
But apparently John Hughes, whowas directing The Breakfast
Club, wanted to smash it for thesoundtrack.
and he had to basically justhammer Simple Minds over and
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over again to say, I want you torecord this.
And they just kept saying no.
And it had been offered topeople like Brian Ferry, Billy
Idol, Chrissie Hynde, all thesepeople, and they all passed on
it.
And eventually, you know, JimKerr from Simple Minds went,
we'll do it.
It's not going to go anywhere,but we'll do it just to shut him
up.
And of course, it's, you know,number one in America, top 10 in
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Australia.
Great song.
Great song.
And again, you hear it and youjust go, well, how could you
never...
And even though, you know, thatbit at the end where there's no
lyrics and Jim Kerr's justgoing la, la, la, la.
Yeah, yeah.
Apparently he said, oh, we'llwork out some words for that
later.
And to John Hughes' credit, hewent, you're not changing that.
Wow.
That's got hit all over.
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I'd love
Speaker 01 (11:26):
to hear the Billy Idol version of him punching the
camera with that lip up.
Like Billy Idol.
Oh, man.
He is so good.
Speaker 00 (11:37):
He is pretty good, isn't he?
Yeah.
Now, here's one that we'll moveon in a minute, but Elvis.
Elvis.
We'll talk a fair bit of Elvison the podcast because there's
just so many terrific...
Well, he's such a uniquecharacter, isn't he?
Terrific Elvis stories, right?
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
So, Colonel Tom Parker, Elvis'manager.
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Yeah.
He asked David Bowie to write asong for him, right?
Oh, yeah.
And Bowie wrote Golden Years.
And apparently Elvis justpassed on it.
He sent him a note that said,all the best, have a great tour.
So he was really gracious aboutit.
But, you know, even the king ofrock and roll, didn't
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necessarily recognise.
But how would Elvis do it?
That's an orphan.
Well, yeah, that's an orphansong.
How would he do it?
Speaker 01 (12:26):
With the big, big, like, girls in the background
and sex and brass.
Yeah, it might have been a bigbrass section.
I don't know.
And him doing the karatestances on stage.
Speaker 00 (12:36):
I know that one of your passions is also karate, so
we'll probably talk karate atsome point too, because there's
a direct line between Elvis andkarate.
Speaker 01 (12:45):
Oh yeah, and a lot
Speaker 00 (12:47):
of musicians.
Yeah, so we'll get to that one.
And celebrities.
Totally.
Anyway, good fun?
Speaker 01 (12:52):
Yep.
Speaker 00 (12:53):
Hey, speaking of Elvis, here's a fun fact.
People make fun of Elvis a bit,but I reckon this shows that he
had a massive heart.
So he was walking into a cardealership, This is in the 70s,
this mid 70s.
And this...
Want to buy another two cars?
Yeah, probably.
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A car that consumes as much gasas possible.
Speaker 01 (13:19):
Yeah, and had a telephone.
Speaker 00 (13:20):
Yeah, that's it.
Anyway, this black woman waswalking out of the dealership
crying because they wouldn'tsell her a car because she was
black.
But she needed a car becauseshe had to get a job to pay for
her college tuition.
So Elvis, being the dude thathe was, marches back in.
He was cheesed off.
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He walked back in with her,made them sell her a car, which
he paid for.
And then he said to her, well,you need a job.
How about you come and stay atmy house every day?
You can study there and answerthe phone and be my sort of PA,
if you like.
Yeah.
So the lady, her name wasMaggie Smith.
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She became his executiveassistant from 1974 until he
died in 1977.
Wow.
Speaker 01 (14:08):
Yes, yeah.
Yeah, like he was huge and hethought, but he did have a lot
of money, but really didn't.
Like he was trapped.
Speaker 00 (14:22):
Yeah, that's right.
He was trapped because...
Colonel Tom Parker did Elvis nofavours, let's face it.
No,
Speaker 01 (14:28):
not at all.
He may have made him a star,but he was trapped.
In fact, he was caught in atrap.
Unknown (14:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 01 (14:37):
He can't get out.
Are you going to set up jokeslike that for me?
I'm trying to.
But yeah, he was trapped.
But he had a big heart,obviously.
Yeah.
He was like a big kid, really,wasn't he?
Totally, yeah.
Just like a big kid that moneydidn't mean anything.
He didn't really know whatmoney was.
Speaker 00 (14:53):
No, that's right.
Speaker 01 (14:54):
Yeah, it was money.
Well, yeah, that's just athing.
Yeah.
He must have done that to somany people.
I heard he did it to a lot ofpeople.
Yeah.
You know, his friends andwhatever.
He just had a sideshow that wasfollowing him around it
hangers-on.
Yeah.
Which a lot of these richpeople that don't know,
celebrities, sports people.
Speaker 00 (15:15):
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's so many terrific Elvisstories and we'll dive into a
few more of those in futureepisodes, I think.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, a lot on Elvis.
Unknown (15:27):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 00 (15:29):
We're going to have a change of pace in a minute.
Okay, where are we going?
We're going to talk about10-pound poms, which I know you
come from a good family of10-pound poms.
Speaker 01 (15:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 00 (15:48):
Okay, Mart, let's just delve back into fairly
recent history.
and talk about the idea of 10pound poms now after the second
world war obviously thegovernments of Australia and New
Zealand were pretty keen topopulate the country yeah and
they set up a scheme that waskind of called populate or
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perish and in that scheme itallowed people from a number of
different countries, not justfrom the UK.
Speaker 01 (16:17):
That's right.
Yeah.
Greece.
Speaker 00 (16:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 01 (16:21):
All.
Yeah.
European.
I know there's a lot of Greeks,a lot of Italians, German and
Dutch.
Speaker 00 (16:29):
Yeah, and they were allowed to come to Australia to
resettle.
Speaker 01 (16:34):
Yes.
Speaker 00 (16:35):
And for the princely sum of £10 for adults and it
was free for kids, right?
Free for
Speaker 01 (16:40):
kids, yeah.
Speaker 00 (16:41):
Now you are a 10 pound pom.
I am actually a 10 pound
Speaker 01 (16:44):
pom, which is amazing.
I couldn't imagine livinganywhere else.
Australia is such a greatcountry and Like I was six years
old when I came out.
I came out with my twobrothers, my father and his new
wife and my nan and my granddad.
We had three aunties living outhere at the moment in Brisbane
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and dad decided to ship us overhere and start a new life.
I left coming up for Christmas.
It would have been probablyaround the end of November we
left, because I think it tookabout three weeks, maybe a
little bit more, to get toAustralia.
And the only way we came was byship.
Speaker 00 (17:28):
Yeah, right.
Now, you lived in Tottenham,didn't you?
That's right.
Speaker 01 (17:31):
Yeah.
So coming from Tottenham,freezing cold.
I remember snow or sleep, but Iremember it.
And it was very, very cold.
But then arriving inAustralia...
Speaker 00 (17:44):
It was
Speaker 01 (17:44):
very, very hot.
And we were living in a tent inthe backyard of my auntie's
place for probably about twomonths.
And yeah, I loved it.
It was just so marvellous.
It was like Huckleberry Finn.
But being six, I was actuallysix on the ship in the middle of
the Indian Ocean.
So we came from England and wetravelled down through the
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Mediterranean, through the SuezCanal, which was open at the
time.
Yeah.
But P&O actually built a shipand it was on the postcard with
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the Sydney Harbour Bridge.
It was always on the Australianpostcard.
This ship with two funnels,yellow funnels.
So it was a white ship withyellow funnels and two swimming
pools.
So they had a beautiful holidaythrough the Mediterranean,
through places like Aden andPort Said.
Going through the Suez Canal, Iremember flying fish, and Arabs
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on camels.
But anyway, coming toAustralia, across the Indian
Ocean and around to Perth, thatwas the first place we landed,
which a lot of people got off,and then Sydney and Melbourne.
And then it didn't come up toBrisbane.
We had to catch a train fromSydney up to Brisbane, an old
train.
Okay.
Yeah.
And arriving in Brisbane withthe City Hall was the tallest
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building.
Wow.
Yeah.
It's amazing.
There's so much that happenedbetween then and then.
Speaker 00 (19:21):
And it sounds like you were probably, well, I mean,
you were living in a tent, butyou were probably lucky because
the whole Bring Out of Britaincampaign kind of promised jobs
and prosperity and all thisstuff.
Yeah.
in truth a lot of people sortof were put into camps yes yeah
Speaker 01 (19:39):
and the jobs weren't well you it's like going
actually going back in timebecause you think of London,
London my father was uh, he usedto do neon signs you know the
fancy and that was rebuildingEngland and it was big warming
up to the 60s everything washappening it was lots of money
to be made and then coming toAustralia was I think Melbourne
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and Sydney might have beendifferent but coming to Brisbane
was it would have been a verybig shock to a lot of English
people because if you didn'tstay for the year you had to pay
for your fare out.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, because the £10 was foreach adult, but the children
Speaker 00 (20:19):
were free.
Yeah, because I think there's afairly well-known saying where
they talk about boomerang pomswhere people came out here and
didn't really like the weather,didn't really like the job
prospects, and a number ofpeople couldn't wait to get
home.
But fortunately, you weren'tone of them.
No,
Speaker 01 (20:36):
well, I remember Dad doing the neon signs, saying
that he did neon signs, fancybig Coca Cola ones and
airport....
all this fancy stuff then hecame to Brisbane and he said
that this job that he had wasthis guy was going to give him a
job turned up and they had likean old place where it was there
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where they took off from a bigold truck and they were drawing
on the ground and on the dirtwith a stick what they were
going to do.
Whether it was a Bank ofQueensland sign, you know, that
they're going to drive up toIpswich.
But everyone's just jumping inthe back of the truck and Dad
thought, I'm not sitting in theback of a truck for like an hour
and a half drive.
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You know, like...
Speaker 00 (21:19):
Yeah, wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Different life.
So fortunately, a whole bunchof people did come out and there
are some fairly famous 10-poundpoms.
Oh, there's loads of them.
Loads of them.
I mean, there's been someterrific documentaries about
people like The Easyb eats.
Yeah.
Who all kind of met in a...
In one of those camps.
One of those Villawood camps, Ithink it was.
(21:40):
Yeah.
In South Australia, perhaps.
But so here's some names foryou.
So we've got John Farnham.
Yep.
Jimmy Barnes.
John Paul Young.
Colin Hay from Men at Work.
John English.
Kylie Minogue is the daughterof two 10-pound pilots.
Unknown (21:55):
Yes.
Speaker 00 (21:56):
The Gibbs, obviously, Red Symons.
Speaker 01 (21:58):
Wow.
Speaker 00 (21:59):
I didn't know Red Symons was.
Yeah, there you go.
Julia Gillard migrated with herfamily back in the day in 1966,
as did Tony Abbott in 1960.
A couple of English fastbowlers from back in the day,
actually, when they retired,took advantage of the scheme and
stayed in Australia and lovedit.
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People like Harold Larwood andFrank Tyson, who were really big
names in cricket back in theday.
Unknown (22:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 00 (22:26):
Obviously, the Gibb brothers, who they were born on
the Isle of Man, which is wheremy family's from.
Yeah.
There you
Speaker 01 (22:32):
go.
You could be related.
Speaker 00 (22:33):
I could be.
You look a little bit likethem.
Well, minus the hair.
Yes, all five members of TheEasybeats.
Obviously, the Young Brothers,who...
Formed the twin guitars ofACDC.
ACDC.
Awesome.
As was Bon Scott, so.
Yeah.
So the old Ten Pound Pondsproject certainly brought a lot
of really talented andinteresting people to Australia.
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Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 01 (22:56):
which brought,
Speaker 00 (22:58):
I'd
Speaker 01 (22:58):
say
Speaker 00 (22:58):
it's like
Speaker 01 (22:58):
a bit of culture, I suppose, came from.
Speaker 00 (23:01):
Oh, totally, yeah.
You
Speaker 01 (23:02):
know, they wanted to prove themselves.
Yeah.
You know, because really theAustralian thing, whether it was
going bush or surfing orwhatever, surfing wasn't huge
back then I suppose in the wellno when did surfing really take
off
Speaker 00 (23:17):
yeah well I suppose you know everything the beach
kicked off the 60s did a wholelot didn't it but it's the new
frontier it is yeah andcertainly there's a series I
think it might be on Stan orsomething which is I think has a
couple of seasons now called 10Pound Poms. Y eah I saw that
they paint a fairly, I guess ableak picture, about some of the
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experiences that people hadwhen they arrived the
Speaker 01 (23:41):
whole culture of Such a culture shock.
Well, they're so used to likethe pubs and not leaving the
suburb that they live in, youknow, because there's the pub
they go to and that's where theygo and their football team and
that's their life.
All of a sudden they're in 35
Speaker 00 (23:57):
degree heat.
Speaker 01 (23:58):
Travelling huge amounts.
Driving a long way.
To go to places and yeah.
Speaker 00 (24:04):
Yeah, anyway.
Speaker 01 (24:05):
We could talk about that a lot because there's so
much...
you know that i rememberAussies being like especially
like in the 70s like so when iwas 17 18 and Neil diamond was
the big thing in barbecues butPoms were sort of like closer
people in close and dancing andyahooing.
Whereas Aussies tend to bewomen on that side and men on
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this side drinking beer andfighting.
It's that whole cultural thingwhere it comes together.
It's not like that now.
Australia is
Speaker 00 (24:37):
so different.
It's funny, isn't it?
You think back to when you werea kid playing soccer or
football or whatever.
Certainly in Brisbane even, allthe soccer clubs were all
aligned with Irish.
Irish Scottish and they're allnamed that like Hollandia hello
you know Polonia and they're allvery much aligned to one
(24:59):
ethnicity and I'm sure you werethe same, our team we'd have two
or three kids who were you knowinverted commas Australian but
you had all these parentsturning up and they were you
know they could be from Italy orGreece or Spain or wherever a
lot of English a lot of Scottishbut yeah a real melting pot
sort of made the country what itis yeah it's
Speaker 01 (25:19):
really good I remember this guy Pacini his
name was it was quite a wealthyfellow and my younger, my elder
brother Benny, he was a greatsportsman and he played soccer
really well well.
This Pacini guy used to get himand get him to play for Bardon
Latrobe pay him to play like itwasn't a lot of money but the
fact is he saw potential in himand he wanted him on that team
(25:42):
so obviously you know it wasprofitable for him to inject a
good player yeah yeah on thatlow level
Speaker 00 (25:51):
yeah get a 10 pound Pom and yeah turn them into into
something
Speaker 01 (25:55):
yeah and you remember yeah i remember because
i was on that border where iwasn't really playing football
or anything because i was onlysix and coming here and school
it was like oh the you playsoccer that girly game when you
play rugby league so i playedrugby league yeah and i grew up
with rugby league so i was onthat that fringe where you made
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the choice but i remember it wasall English kids and European
kids that played soccer.
Speaker 00 (26:23):
Yeah, right.
Well, speaking of rugby league,Ian Roberts moved to Sydney
with his family in 1967, sothere's another £10 pom for you.
Speaker 01 (26:31):
Yeah.
Anyway.
Speaker 00 (26:32):
But
Speaker 01 (26:33):
there was loads more, I'm sure.
Yeah.
Good fun.
It is good fun.
Speaker 00 (26:44):
Mark, one of the things we love here at the pod
is coincidences.
Yeah.
And particularly coincidencesthat probably changed history.
And, you know, some of thoseare fun and some of those are
crazy in terms of what mighthave happened.
Yeah.
It only takes a little thing,doesn't it?
It sure does.
There was one that I cameacross about Bill Murray, which
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I think we both love as anactor.
Brilliant.
He's pretty funny.
But when he was young, I'mtalking when he was 20 in 1970,
he got arrested at The Chicagoairport, because he was trying
to smuggle a bunch of cannabisback to where he went to uni.
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Sounds like he might have beenfunding his uni through dealing
in some drugs.
But for whatever reason, hetold the flight attendant that
he actually had a bomb in hissuitcase.
She, of course, told the policeand he got arrested and
actually quit college before hecould get expelled.
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So that's the moment where hetook up stand up comedy.
But had that not happened, he'sprobably never in any of these
movies that we love.
Caddyshack.
Caddyshack and Groundhog Dayand Ghostbusters and all that
stuff.
Life Aquatic.
Speaker 01 (28:03):
He's pretty good in the serious movies too.
Yeah.
Later on in his career.
Steve
Speaker 00 (28:11):
Zissou, yeah.
Yeah.
He
Speaker 01 (28:12):
always plays weird offbeat characters, hey?
The movies are usually weirdand offbeat.
What was the one where he wasin Japan and he was like a James
Bond type guy?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But he was off and they gotpaid to promote this whiskey.
Speaker 00 (28:26):
Yeah, I know.
I should know the title.
Yeah, so should I.
I love...
Scrooged.
Yeah.
I just love how they have theRobert Goulet Christmas hour and
all that stuff.
It's so cheesy.
Yeah.
But it's just, it's a terrificmovie with Karen Allen in it.
Speaker 01 (28:42):
And how good is Groundhog Day?
Yeah.
Like, that's a terrific movie.
Yeah, it is.
Why you get so blasé aboutgetting up in the
Speaker 00 (28:48):
morning and just being a pig?
Yeah.
So, you know, the point being,none of those things probably
would have happened had he notdecided to smuggle some dope.
Or be a comedian at theairport.
Yeah, I know.
What a dumb move.
Yeah.
Anyway, that was a good one.
Worked out.
Here's another one for you.
And this is going back to theTitanic.
(29:11):
Yes.
And this is a real slidingdoors thing.
So the watchman is assigned tothe crow's nest, right?
On top of the Titanic?
Yeah.
The guy...
who's in that job needsbinoculars to keep an eye out
for large things like...
Icebergs.
Icebergs, that'd be it.
(29:31):
But they're locked inside alocker.
Yeah.
So when, right before the shipsailed, the guy who was supposed
to be in that role, that rolewas given to another guy.
And so he didn't hand over thekey...
to the did he do that thelocker vindictively or he didn't
(29:54):
I don't think so I think hejust forgot but basically the
guy who's supposed to be onlookout for icebergs with said
binoculars wasn't because thelocker is locked so wow
Speaker 01 (30:05):
doh! I knew that about the binoculars because you
know a son Luke did a projecton it and said the reason is
because there was no binocularsin the in the watchtower yeah
the crow's nest crazy that iscrazy
Speaker 00 (30:19):
yep So, yeah, a guy called David Blair forgot to
hand over the keys to this otherfellow called Charles
Lightroller.
Good name.
I wonder if David ever thoughtabout that.
Probably.
I don't know.
Oh, man.
Okay, here's another one foryou.
And this may be the luckiestand unluckiest person in the
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world at the same time.
So in the Second World War,when America...
dropped the nuclear bomb onHiroshima.
A fellow by the name of TsutomuYamaguchi was working in
Hiroshima.
(31:02):
He was thrown in the air by theimpact, but he survived.
Jeez.
Yeah.
Anyway, he went back home toNagasaki, where he lived.
You know where this is going.
Wow.
And he was trying to tell hisboss about...
This bomb that he justsurvived, and this guy was
saying, no bomb could take out awhole city, I don't believe
(31:23):
you.
And with that, there's amassive white blast.
And this guy was involved inthe Nagasaki bombing as well,
survived that, and lived to belike 93.
But far out.
What are we talking about?
Wrong place, wrong time, right?
Speaker 01 (31:38):
Like twice.
Twice.
He could have been a guineapig, couldn't he?
He could have been like...
like what have they tested on
Speaker 00 (31:44):
him or anything I don't know like how do you
survive that I mean it's ahorrible topic, but yeah what an
amazing story. I t is amazingyou know yeah.
Got one more for you yep andthis is all about the name
Eleanor Rigby the Beatles theBeatles yeah so yeah 1957, John
Lennon and Paul McCartney meet.
(32:04):
They're at the St.
Peter's Church.
I think everyone knows thestory about how they met at the
church fair.
And, you know, from there itwas history.
Apparently, just meters awayfrom where they met was the
grave of a lady by the name ofEleanor Rigby.
Yes.
Now, McCartney always claimedthat he named the character
after an actress called EleanorBronn and a store in Bristol
(32:29):
that was called Rigby and Evans.
But who knows?
There might have been somethingsubliminal there.
Point is, Eleanor Rigby's gravewas auctioned off, but it
failed to sell.
She died alone, and nobody wentto the funeral.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, so, I mean, what's thecoincidence that...
It writes a song.
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They meet.
Yeah.
Meters from where this song isfrom Revolver.
It's a terrific song, too.
Oh, yeah, amazing, yeah.
I heard a stat about theBeatles the other day.
This blows me away.
If the Beatles were stilltogether today, their first
album would have been in 2018.
Wow.
That's how short of a time theywere
Speaker 01 (33:16):
together, right?
Yeah.
And it seems like a lifetime,their music.
Speaker 00 (33:25):
But also how quickly it progressed, right?
Yeah.
So from, you know, She LovesYou and I Want to Hold Your Hand
and all that stuff to...
Yellow Submarine.
Through Yellow Submarine andSgt.
Pepper's and into Let It Be andAbbey Road.
Incredible.
How much they grew.
12 albums in 7 years.
Yeah.
But I don't know about you, butfor better or worse, a song
(33:49):
that was made in 2018 prettywell sounds the same now as a
song that's Yeah.
Yeah.
it was Herman's Hermits, CliffRichards yeah yeah yeah and
(34:19):
Frank Sinatra and so they'vegone from there to 1970 and all
the kind of the next round ofstuff that was coming through
yeah that was just crazy youknow hard rock and all that sort
of stuff but I just find it
Speaker 01 (34:36):
amazing that well yeah they gave so many like they
opened up the door didn't theyyeah this massive door opened up
Speaker 00 (34:44):
totally yeah and so many terrific bands and artists
just went beautiful we'll we'llhave some of that thanks
Speaker 01 (34:51):
and again it was it's just the timing isn't it
like they worked really hard tobe who they were which people
don't realize you know that theyin that early stages you know
touring Germany Europe, eight hour gigs
Speaker 00 (35:03):
in Hamburg every day, yeah
Speaker 01 (35:05):
yeah to become this success and then to become who
they were it was just amazing
Speaker 02 (35:12):
yeah
Speaker 01 (35:13):
there you go
Speaker 00 (35:14):
Okay, welcome back.
The great thing about funfacts, I reckon, is that you can
always retain one or two ofthese things just to annoy
people with, you know?
So I'm going to give you somerapid fire facts here, Mark.
Yep.
(35:35):
I'm ready.
You're ready.
Okay.
So Game of Thrones.
Yes.
The Night's Watch.
Yes.
The outfits that they wore weremade from rugs from Ikea.
Great.
How good.
Speaker 02 (35:48):
It's terrific, isn't it?
Speaker 00 (35:49):
You see all the sets on that show and stuff, but
basically they're Ikea rugs.
All right, here's another onefor you.
A lemon floats, but a limesinks.
Really?
Yep.
Yep.
Limes are denser than lemons,so they drop to the bottom of a
glass whilst lemons float.
So go figure.
Here's another one for you.
(36:11):
The T-Rex likely had feathers.
Yeah, I saw that.
Those crazy Chinese apparentlyhave discovered that the
ancestors of the T-Rex hadfeathers.
So, yes.
A
Speaker 01 (36:23):
bit
Speaker 00 (36:23):
hard to think.
Was it a bird?
Was it a
Speaker 01 (36:27):
plane?
Speaker 00 (36:27):
Was it a T-Rex?
It's a very messed up dinosaur.
Okay, here's another.
So, it's kind of tradition nowwhen people are having a photo
taken or a selfie to say cheese.
But back in the day...
It wasn't the done thing to besmiling.
They used to say, say prunes.
(36:48):
Say the word prunes.
Prunes.
Hmm.
It was seen as childish to havea cheesy grin in the 1840s.
So London photographers used tosay, say prunes to keep your
mouth closed tightly as peopleshould back then.
So when you look at those oldphotos, it kind of makes sense.
Unknown (37:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 00 (37:08):
Prunes.
But how'd they do it when theydid, okay, wanna pull a
Speaker 01 (37:10):
face?
Speaker 00 (37:15):
Well, if that had too many prunes, maybe.
Mart, Last fact, and thisdoesn't apply 100% of the time,
but most of the clocks in themovie Pulp Fiction are set to
4:20.
So I think we're going to haveto go and rewatch that to make
sure that it's true, it's a goodmovie to watch.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
4:20.
4:20.
(37:36):
Okay.
I wonder why that was.
I don't know.
It's maybe a quirk fromTarantino just to put a little
Easter egg in there.
He's good.
I love his movies.
I was talking to my wife,Carol, last night about From
Dusk Till Dawn.
Speaker 01 (37:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 00 (37:51):
And just the whole idea of just flipping on its
head from one minute to the nextto become a vampire movie.
Speaker 02 (37:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 00 (37:57):
I mean, he was so good just at taking a genre and
going, all right, I'm going todo a vampire movie and we'll do
a car movie and we'll do a roadmovie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's pretty cool.
Yeah.
He is
Speaker 01 (38:08):
a very cool guy.
Speaker 00 (38:09):
He
Speaker 01 (38:09):
is.
His favorite clip from thepast, so I've heard, was from
Bewitched, you know, the sexywitch.
Samantha?
Yeah.
Was it Derwin?
Darren, yeah.
Darren.
Was it?
Did she have a twin sister?
The mother-in-law used to callhim Derwin.
But she had a twin sister,didn't she?
(38:31):
Yeah.
Sort of like more evil.
Yep.
But she does.
And if you Google it, it'sreally quite good.
She plays this song with aguitar and what she's wearing is
pretty, yeah, pretty for thattime.
Speaker 00 (38:45):
Yeah.
Okay.
So Google that one.
I think that's probably a goodpoint to end the show.
Yeah, I've enjoyed that.
Yeah, it's been good fun andwe've covered a lot of territory
and I'm now off to Googlebewitched evil sister.
Playing guitar.
Actually, we'll put a link inthe show notes for that one,
Mart.
That's good.
Speaker 01 (39:04):
Good idea.
Speaker 00 (39:05):
Yeah.
Okay, well, look, that's aboutit.
Thanks for listening, everyone.
And if you want to get in touchwith us, ask us a question or
give us a topic you might likeus to talk about, then get in
touch on Facebook or Instagramor send us an email at
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Speaker 01 (39:25):
See you.
Unknown (39:27):
Bye.
Hello and welcome to Fun Facts and Sidetracks.
This is the podcast where wetake a look at those things that
often make you think, how didthat ever happen?
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or more to the point, what evenpossessed someone to think that
that was a good idea.
My name's Al, and with me asalways is my good friend, Mart.
How are you, mate?
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I'm very well, Al.
Very well.
Good week?
Great week.
Yeah.
Lots of hard work done, and nowit's good to be here.
Speaker 00 (00:37):
Got some fun facts to bring to the show?
Speaker 01 (00:40):
Certainly.
Excellent.
Speaker 00 (00:41):
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started.
We don't claim to be experts.
We're just mates chatting aboutall sorts of things that
interest us.
For each episode, we spread thenet far and why using our
limited knowledge of all sortsof things that amuse us.
And we rely on web searchingand we also delve into our
memory banks for some funnystories that usually take us a
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little off track, just likewhenever we catch up, mate.
Speaker 02 (01:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 00 (01:08):
So the facts we discuss are correct, as we know.
But please don't sue us.
So we've got some fun stuff tochat about.
Let's wade into the wonderfulworld of history and pop
culture.
And if you think we've got itwrong, send us a message.
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Love to hear it.
But we'd much rather hearpositive feedback.
Because usually I'm full ofshit.
So first up, Mark, we both loveour music.
Definitely.
You were a professionalmusician for a long time.
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Well, yeah, I was a
Speaker 01 (01:51):
professional musician for 16 years, but a
solo musician.
Speaker 00 (01:56):
And I'm a terrible guitarist, but I love music.
So over the years, we'veamassed a bit of history with
music.
So we thought we'd have apretty regular segment that is
called The One That Got Away.
And this is really about...
those songs or those bands thatwere offered something, and for
whatever reason, it neverreally happened.
(02:16):
So the classic example would bethe record company exec that
didn't hire the Beatles.
Bit of an epic career failthere.
But equally, there's a wholebunch of songs that have been
offered to people, and forwhatever reason, they didn't
take them.
First up.
It's
Speaker 01 (02:36):
just the whole chemistry.
It's like...
it's like it all falls intoplace.
Like the things line up to getthat chemistry.
Yeah.
You know, whether it's someonewho's got the wrong song or
whatever, but it's, it's so fineline that things line up and
then it takes off.
Yeah.
And it's an incredible thingreally when you think about it.
Speaker 00 (02:55):
Well, sometimes it seems like it's timing as well.
Like a song comes along andsomebody says, no, my album's
already full.
Yes.
So thanks very much, but I'llpass.
And then obviously, you know,when it wins a Grammy, they're
going, oh, doh! Yeah, but thenthey probably could have done it
with a sound crap.
Well, might have too.
I mean, here's the first reallygood example.
(03:16):
Fun fact, the song Call Me byBlondie.
And that wasn't offered toBlondie initially.
That was offered to StevieNicks.
Stevie Nicks.
Wow.
Yeah.
And she might have done a greatjob of it.
I'd like to hear the version.
Yeah, it's Blondie's song.
Yeah, totally.
And You know, it was written byGiorgio Moroder.
(03:39):
He was just like a hit machinein the 70s and early 80s.
Offered it to Stevie Nicks.
Her people said no.
I think there was some sort ofcontractual thing.
And Blondie, of course, werejust red hot at the time.
And it landed in Debbie Harry'slap.
And she said, yep, we'll havethat.
She was very punky, wasn't she?
(04:00):
Yeah.
i remember her being very punkyyeah she came out of that new
wave scene yeah so a lot of ofher stuff if you ever see
footage of CBGB which was thethe club in New York yeah the
little club the grungy club yeahso you've got you've got
Blondie and you've got TalkingHeads and you've got The Ramones
you've got Television all thesebands if you ever see vision of
(04:22):
that it's just great becauseit's this funny little stage in
this funny little club butthere's tiny little club awesome
music coming out of it
Speaker 01 (04:30):
lots of drugs Lots of
Speaker 00 (04:31):
alcohol.
Speaker 01 (04:32):
Lots of
Speaker 00 (04:33):
so-called creative people.
Speaker 01 (04:35):
Probably.
Speaker 00 (04:36):
Probably.
But awesome music.
Yeah.
And, you know, it's a bit likeif you see footage of the Cabin
Club or something in Liverpoolor like, you know, Studio 54 or
something.
Yeah.
It's just a moment in time, youknow.
Anyway, so Blondie just, theymade that song their own and
that was it.
Yeah.
I love Blondie.
(04:57):
I think pretty well every guyloves
Speaker 01 (04:59):
Blondie.
Yeah.
Like you don't expect her to bepunky.
Speaker 00 (05:02):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, that's right.
Yeah.
But she had that edge.
She did.
And in fact, first fun fact forthe episode, although not such
a fun fact.
is that Debbie Harry in the mid70s was a massive fan of a band
called the New York dolls andNew York dolls are pretty out
there i think they were theykind of dressed up in the glam
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gear well before kiss did youknow yep but she was going to
one of their gigs she waswearing shoes that didn't really
suit walking a long way to getto the gig yeah this guy pulls
up in a v-dub pretty handsomeguy offers her a lift and she
goes no no go away he circlesback and keeps driving along
next to her eventually she getsin as soon as she gets in she
(05:47):
goes something's not right herethere's no door handles on the
inside right wow I'm picturingthis he hangs a big u-turn and
starts speeding off she somehowmanages to get the window down
she must have opened the doorfrom the outside and kind of
tumbles out wow how did shethink of that yeah I know like
how did she think of that inthat moment well the bizarre
(06:08):
thing of course is years latershe sees an article about serial
killer Ted Bundy and sherecognises that that's the guy
who offered her that lift wowTed Bundy that's just scary
right wow yeah Not
Speaker 01 (06:27):
so fun fact.
I wonder if he was related toAl Bundy.
Because that's who I thought itwas when I heard.
I thought, wow, Al Bundy.
Right Peg.
Speaker 00 (06:39):
Yeah.
Okay, here's another one foryou.
So, Toxic, which was one ofBritney Spears' most famous
hits.
Wow.
That was actually offered toMiss Kylie Minogue, who I think
at the time...
already had an album full ofsongs and decided that that
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wasn't for her.
It was actually written forJanet Jackson, who also passed
on the song.
Speaker 01 (07:05):
So was Kylie...
She'd gone through thelocomotion stage.
She was a star.
Speaker 00 (07:12):
Yeah, it's well after that.
Yeah, sort of Showgirl toursort of territory.
I think it might have beenwhen, you know, she was going
through breast cancer and stuff.
So not really a super expert onKyles.
But nevertheless, it's amassive song to pass up on.
And, you know, again...
Songs like that, another reallygood example is, if we go back
(07:35):
a few more years, Physical.
Yeah.
Which, you know, everyone knowsis Olivia Newton-John.
Yeah, Olivia nuclear bomb.
Exactly.
Olivia neutron bomb.
Her biggest hit, best-sellingnumber one.
That was actually written forRod Stewart.
so yeah tights I know it's nothard to imagine in leotards and
(08:00):
you know animal prints and allthat from yeah long hair blondes
have more fun and all thatstuff yeah but yeah that was
written for Rod Stewart andapparently he passed on it and
Livvie's people went, yep, we'llhave that.
And the rest is history.
Speaker 01 (08:13):
Yeah.
Yeah, I suppose.
Rod Stewart singing that in theraunchy, raspy voice.
I can see him bouncing aroundthe stage with leg warmers on.
Can't see him in
Speaker 00 (08:24):
the gym, though.
Anyway, here's another one foryou.
So we mentioned Britney Spearsbefore.
So Rihanna's, probably herbiggest hit, Umbrella, was
actually offered to Britney.
And again...
she didn't want it because herBlackout album was already full.
Yeah.
And so she passed on it.
(08:45):
And of course, Rihanna, who'sobviously got a good ear for a
hit.
Yes.
I'm going to have that nomatter what.
Apparently, even at the GrammyAwards, the person who wrote it,
she just went up to them andwent, you're not giving that
song to anyone else.
I'm taking that.
And again, the rest is history.
Wow.
Massive hit.
Speaker 01 (09:04):
It must be really exciting to actually visualize a
song that's going to be a hit.
Speaker 00 (09:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 01 (09:12):
You know?
Speaker 00 (09:12):
Yeah,
Speaker 01 (09:13):
yeah.
Yeah.
And these people that writethese songs...
It's incredible when they writeit and they don't think it's a
hit, but they just play it andthen someone will listen to it.
I think Cliff Richard waslistening to a Beatles at the
studio once.
He was at the studio at thesame time and he and Paul
McCartney, I can't remember whatthe song was.
It could have been I Will.
Oh, yeah.
(09:33):
You know, who knows how longI've loved you.
And he played that to CliffRichards.
He said, what do you think ofthis?
And he just thought, wow, whata song.
Yeah.
Yeah.
As you would.
Yeah, yeah.
And a hit, a hit, when you heara hit, it's like you've heard
(09:55):
it before.
Yeah.
I don't know, with me, when youhear a song for the first time,
you go, wow, like when you hearDire Straits or you hear The
Beatles or, and the song, you'veonly got to hear it once and
you go, wow.
Unknown (10:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 01 (10:08):
It's as though you've heard it before because
it stays in your mind.
Speaker 00 (10:11):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 01 (10:12):
And you just want to hear it again.
Yeah.
Well, that's the way it used tobe on the radio.
Speaker 00 (10:15):
Well, I mean, a really good example of what
you're saying, Don't You ForgetAbout Me by Simple Minds, right?
Again, you hear that song andyou go, how did anyone ever
think, oh, no, I don't wantthat.
That's rubbish.
But apparently John Hughes, whowas directing The Breakfast
Club, wanted to smash it for thesoundtrack.
and he had to basically justhammer Simple Minds over and
(10:43):
over again to say, I want you torecord this.
And they just kept saying no.
And it had been offered topeople like Brian Ferry, Billy
Idol, Chrissie Hynde, all thesepeople, and they all passed on
it.
And eventually, you know, JimKerr from Simple Minds went,
we'll do it.
It's not going to go anywhere,but we'll do it just to shut him
up.
And of course, it's, you know,number one in America, top 10 in
(11:03):
Australia.
Great song.
Great song.
And again, you hear it and youjust go, well, how could you
never...
And even though, you know, thatbit at the end where there's no
lyrics and Jim Kerr's justgoing la, la, la, la.
Yeah, yeah.
Apparently he said, oh, we'llwork out some words for that
later.
And to John Hughes' credit, hewent, you're not changing that.
Wow.
That's got hit all over.
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I'd love
Speaker 01 (11:26):
to hear the Billy Idol version of him punching the
camera with that lip up.
Like Billy Idol.
Oh, man.
He is so good.
Speaker 00 (11:37):
He is pretty good, isn't he?
Yeah.
Now, here's one that we'll moveon in a minute, but Elvis.
Elvis.
We'll talk a fair bit of Elvison the podcast because there's
just so many terrific...
Well, he's such a uniquecharacter, isn't he?
Terrific Elvis stories, right?
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
So, Colonel Tom Parker, Elvis'manager.
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Yeah.
He asked David Bowie to write asong for him, right?
Oh, yeah.
And Bowie wrote Golden Years.
And apparently Elvis justpassed on it.
He sent him a note that said,all the best, have a great tour.
So he was really gracious aboutit.
But, you know, even the king ofrock and roll, didn't
(12:19):
necessarily recognise.
But how would Elvis do it?
That's an orphan.
Well, yeah, that's an orphansong.
How would he do it?
Speaker 01 (12:26):
With the big, big, like, girls in the background
and sex and brass.
Yeah, it might have been a bigbrass section.
I don't know.
And him doing the karatestances on stage.
Speaker 00 (12:36):
I know that one of your passions is also karate, so
we'll probably talk karate atsome point too, because there's
a direct line between Elvis andkarate.
Speaker 01 (12:45):
Oh yeah, and a lot
Speaker 00 (12:47):
of musicians.
Yeah, so we'll get to that one.
And celebrities.
Totally.
Anyway, good fun?
Speaker 01 (12:52):
Yep.
Speaker 00 (12:53):
Hey, speaking of Elvis, here's a fun fact.
People make fun of Elvis a bit,but I reckon this shows that he
had a massive heart.
So he was walking into a cardealership, This is in the 70s,
this mid 70s.
And this...
Want to buy another two cars?
Yeah, probably.
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A car that consumes as much gasas possible.
Speaker 01 (13:19):
Yeah, and had a telephone.
Speaker 00 (13:20):
Yeah, that's it.
Anyway, this black woman waswalking out of the dealership
crying because they wouldn'tsell her a car because she was
black.
But she needed a car becauseshe had to get a job to pay for
her college tuition.
So Elvis, being the dude thathe was, marches back in.
He was cheesed off.
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He walked back in with her,made them sell her a car, which
he paid for.
And then he said to her, well,you need a job.
How about you come and stay atmy house every day?
You can study there and answerthe phone and be my sort of PA,
if you like.
Yeah.
So the lady, her name wasMaggie Smith.
(14:00):
She became his executiveassistant from 1974 until he
died in 1977.
Wow.
Speaker 01 (14:08):
Yes, yeah.
Yeah, like he was huge and hethought, but he did have a lot
of money, but really didn't.
Like he was trapped.
Speaker 00 (14:22):
Yeah, that's right.
He was trapped because...
Colonel Tom Parker did Elvis nofavours, let's face it.
No,
Speaker 01 (14:28):
not at all.
He may have made him a star,but he was trapped.
In fact, he was caught in atrap.
Unknown (14:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 01 (14:37):
He can't get out.
Are you going to set up jokeslike that for me?
I'm trying to.
But yeah, he was trapped.
But he had a big heart,obviously.
Yeah.
He was like a big kid, really,wasn't he?
Totally, yeah.
Just like a big kid that moneydidn't mean anything.
He didn't really know whatmoney was.
Speaker 00 (14:53):
No, that's right.
Speaker 01 (14:54):
Yeah, it was money.
Well, yeah, that's just athing.
Yeah.
He must have done that to somany people.
I heard he did it to a lot ofpeople.
Yeah.
You know, his friends andwhatever.
He just had a sideshow that wasfollowing him around it
hangers-on.
Yeah.
Which a lot of these richpeople that don't know,
celebrities, sports people.
Speaker 00 (15:15):
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's so many terrific Elvisstories and we'll dive into a
few more of those in futureepisodes, I think.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, a lot on Elvis.
Unknown (15:27):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 00 (15:29):
We're going to have a change of pace in a minute.
Okay, where are we going?
We're going to talk about10-pound poms, which I know you
come from a good family of10-pound poms.
Speaker 01 (15:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 00 (15:48):
Okay, Mart, let's just delve back into fairly
recent history.
and talk about the idea of 10pound poms now after the second
world war obviously thegovernments of Australia and New
Zealand were pretty keen topopulate the country yeah and
they set up a scheme that waskind of called populate or
(16:10):
perish and in that scheme itallowed people from a number of
different countries, not justfrom the UK.
Speaker 01 (16:17):
That's right.
Yeah.
Greece.
Speaker 00 (16:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 01 (16:21):
All.
Yeah.
European.
I know there's a lot of Greeks,a lot of Italians, German and
Dutch.
Speaker 00 (16:29):
Yeah, and they were allowed to come to Australia to
resettle.
Speaker 01 (16:34):
Yes.
Speaker 00 (16:35):
And for the princely sum of £10 for adults and it
was free for kids, right?
Free for
Speaker 01 (16:40):
kids, yeah.
Speaker 00 (16:41):
Now you are a 10 pound pom.
I am actually a 10 pound
Speaker 01 (16:44):
pom, which is amazing.
I couldn't imagine livinganywhere else.
Australia is such a greatcountry and Like I was six years
old when I came out.
I came out with my twobrothers, my father and his new
wife and my nan and my granddad.
We had three aunties living outhere at the moment in Brisbane
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and dad decided to ship us overhere and start a new life.
I left coming up for Christmas.
It would have been probablyaround the end of November we
left, because I think it tookabout three weeks, maybe a
little bit more, to get toAustralia.
And the only way we came was byship.
Speaker 00 (17:28):
Yeah, right.
Now, you lived in Tottenham,didn't you?
That's right.
Speaker 01 (17:31):
Yeah.
So coming from Tottenham,freezing cold.
I remember snow or sleep, but Iremember it.
And it was very, very cold.
But then arriving inAustralia...
Speaker 00 (17:44):
It was
Speaker 01 (17:44):
very, very hot.
And we were living in a tent inthe backyard of my auntie's
place for probably about twomonths.
And yeah, I loved it.
It was just so marvellous.
It was like Huckleberry Finn.
But being six, I was actuallysix on the ship in the middle of
the Indian Ocean.
So we came from England and wetravelled down through the
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Mediterranean, through the SuezCanal, which was open at the
time.
Yeah.
But P&O actually built a shipand it was on the postcard with
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the Sydney Harbour Bridge.
It was always on the Australianpostcard.
This ship with two funnels,yellow funnels.
So it was a white ship withyellow funnels and two swimming
pools.
So they had a beautiful holidaythrough the Mediterranean,
through places like Aden andPort Said.
Going through the Suez Canal, Iremember flying fish, and Arabs
(18:52):
on camels.
But anyway, coming toAustralia, across the Indian
Ocean and around to Perth, thatwas the first place we landed,
which a lot of people got off,and then Sydney and Melbourne.
And then it didn't come up toBrisbane.
We had to catch a train fromSydney up to Brisbane, an old
train.
Okay.
Yeah.
And arriving in Brisbane withthe City Hall was the tallest
(19:14):
building.
Wow.
Yeah.
It's amazing.
There's so much that happenedbetween then and then.
Speaker 00 (19:21):
And it sounds like you were probably, well, I mean,
you were living in a tent, butyou were probably lucky because
the whole Bring Out of Britaincampaign kind of promised jobs
and prosperity and all thisstuff.
Yeah.
in truth a lot of people sortof were put into camps yes yeah
Speaker 01 (19:39):
and the jobs weren't well you it's like going
actually going back in timebecause you think of London,
London my father was uh, he usedto do neon signs you know the
fancy and that was rebuildingEngland and it was big warming
up to the 60s everything washappening it was lots of money
to be made and then coming toAustralia was I think Melbourne
(20:02):
and Sydney might have beendifferent but coming to Brisbane
was it would have been a verybig shock to a lot of English
people because if you didn'tstay for the year you had to pay
for your fare out.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, because the £10 was foreach adult, but the children
Speaker 00 (20:19):
were free.
Yeah, because I think there's afairly well-known saying where
they talk about boomerang pomswhere people came out here and
didn't really like the weather,didn't really like the job
prospects, and a number ofpeople couldn't wait to get
home.
But fortunately, you weren'tone of them.
No,
Speaker 01 (20:36):
well, I remember Dad doing the neon signs, saying
that he did neon signs, fancybig Coca Cola ones and
airport....
all this fancy stuff then hecame to Brisbane and he said
that this job that he had wasthis guy was going to give him a
job turned up and they had likean old place where it was there
(20:56):
where they took off from a bigold truck and they were drawing
on the ground and on the dirtwith a stick what they were
going to do.
Whether it was a Bank ofQueensland sign, you know, that
they're going to drive up toIpswich.
But everyone's just jumping inthe back of the truck and Dad
thought, I'm not sitting in theback of a truck for like an hour
and a half drive.
(21:17):
You know, like...
Speaker 00 (21:19):
Yeah, wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Different life.
So fortunately, a whole bunchof people did come out and there
are some fairly famous 10-poundpoms.
Oh, there's loads of them.
Loads of them.
I mean, there's been someterrific documentaries about
people like The Easyb eats.
Yeah.
Who all kind of met in a...
In one of those camps.
One of those Villawood camps, Ithink it was.
(21:40):
Yeah.
In South Australia, perhaps.
But so here's some names foryou.
So we've got John Farnham.
Yep.
Jimmy Barnes.
John Paul Young.
Colin Hay from Men at Work.
John English.
Kylie Minogue is the daughterof two 10-pound pilots.
Unknown (21:55):
Yes.
Speaker 00 (21:56):
The Gibbs, obviously, Red Symons.
Speaker 01 (21:58):
Wow.
Speaker 00 (21:59):
I didn't know Red Symons was.
Yeah, there you go.
Julia Gillard migrated with herfamily back in the day in 1966,
as did Tony Abbott in 1960.
A couple of English fastbowlers from back in the day,
actually, when they retired,took advantage of the scheme and
stayed in Australia and lovedit.
(22:19):
People like Harold Larwood andFrank Tyson, who were really big
names in cricket back in theday.
Unknown (22:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 00 (22:26):
Obviously, the Gibb brothers, who they were born on
the Isle of Man, which is wheremy family's from.
Yeah.
There you
Speaker 01 (22:32):
go.
You could be related.
Speaker 00 (22:33):
I could be.
You look a little bit likethem.
Well, minus the hair.
Yes, all five members of TheEasybeats.
Obviously, the Young Brothers,who...
Formed the twin guitars ofACDC.
ACDC.
Awesome.
As was Bon Scott, so.
Yeah.
So the old Ten Pound Pondsproject certainly brought a lot
of really talented andinteresting people to Australia.
(22:56):
Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 01 (22:56):
which brought,
Speaker 00 (22:58):
I'd
Speaker 01 (22:58):
say
Speaker 00 (22:58):
it's like
Speaker 01 (22:58):
a bit of culture, I suppose, came from.
Speaker 00 (23:01):
Oh, totally, yeah.
You
Speaker 01 (23:02):
know, they wanted to prove themselves.
Yeah.
You know, because really theAustralian thing, whether it was
going bush or surfing orwhatever, surfing wasn't huge
back then I suppose in the wellno when did surfing really take
off
Speaker 00 (23:17):
yeah well I suppose you know everything the beach
kicked off the 60s did a wholelot didn't it but it's the new
frontier it is yeah andcertainly there's a series I
think it might be on Stan orsomething which is I think has a
couple of seasons now called 10Pound Poms. Y eah I saw that
they paint a fairly, I guess ableak picture, about some of the
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experiences that people hadwhen they arrived the
Speaker 01 (23:41):
whole culture of Such a culture shock.
Well, they're so used to likethe pubs and not leaving the
suburb that they live in, youknow, because there's the pub
they go to and that's where theygo and their football team and
that's their life.
All of a sudden they're in 35
Speaker 00 (23:57):
degree heat.
Speaker 01 (23:58):
Travelling huge amounts.
Driving a long way.
To go to places and yeah.
Speaker 00 (24:04):
Yeah, anyway.
Speaker 01 (24:05):
We could talk about that a lot because there's so
much...
you know that i rememberAussies being like especially
like in the 70s like so when iwas 17 18 and Neil diamond was
the big thing in barbecues butPoms were sort of like closer
people in close and dancing andyahooing.
Whereas Aussies tend to bewomen on that side and men on
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this side drinking beer andfighting.
It's that whole cultural thingwhere it comes together.
It's not like that now.
Australia is
Speaker 00 (24:37):
so different.
It's funny, isn't it?
You think back to when you werea kid playing soccer or
football or whatever.
Certainly in Brisbane even, allthe soccer clubs were all
aligned with Irish.
Irish Scottish and they're allnamed that like Hollandia hello
you know Polonia and they're allvery much aligned to one
(24:59):
ethnicity and I'm sure you werethe same, our team we'd have two
or three kids who were you knowinverted commas Australian but
you had all these parentsturning up and they were you
know they could be from Italy orGreece or Spain or wherever a
lot of English a lot of Scottishbut yeah a real melting pot
sort of made the country what itis yeah it's
Speaker 01 (25:19):
really good I remember this guy Pacini his
name was it was quite a wealthyfellow and my younger, my elder
brother Benny, he was a greatsportsman and he played soccer
really well well.
This Pacini guy used to get himand get him to play for Bardon
Latrobe pay him to play like itwasn't a lot of money but the
fact is he saw potential in himand he wanted him on that team
(25:42):
so obviously you know it wasprofitable for him to inject a
good player yeah yeah on thatlow level
Speaker 00 (25:51):
yeah get a 10 pound Pom and yeah turn them into into
something
Speaker 01 (25:55):
yeah and you remember yeah i remember because
i was on that border where iwasn't really playing football
or anything because i was onlysix and coming here and school
it was like oh the you playsoccer that girly game when you
play rugby league so i playedrugby league yeah and i grew up
with rugby league so i was onthat that fringe where you made
(26:18):
the choice but i remember it wasall English kids and European
kids that played soccer.
Speaker 00 (26:23):
Yeah, right.
Well, speaking of rugby league,Ian Roberts moved to Sydney
with his family in 1967, sothere's another £10 pom for you.
Speaker 01 (26:31):
Yeah.
Anyway.
Speaker 00 (26:32):
But
Speaker 01 (26:33):
there was loads more, I'm sure.
Yeah.
Good fun.
It is good fun.
Speaker 00 (26:44):
Mark, one of the things we love here at the pod
is coincidences.
Yeah.
And particularly coincidencesthat probably changed history.
And, you know, some of thoseare fun and some of those are
crazy in terms of what mighthave happened.
Yeah.
It only takes a little thing,doesn't it?
It sure does.
There was one that I cameacross about Bill Murray, which
(27:07):
I think we both love as anactor.
Brilliant.
He's pretty funny.
But when he was young, I'mtalking when he was 20 in 1970,
he got arrested at The Chicagoairport, because he was trying
to smuggle a bunch of cannabisback to where he went to uni.
(27:27):
Sounds like he might have beenfunding his uni through dealing
in some drugs.
But for whatever reason, hetold the flight attendant that
he actually had a bomb in hissuitcase.
She, of course, told the policeand he got arrested and
actually quit college before hecould get expelled.
(27:49):
So that's the moment where hetook up stand up comedy.
But had that not happened, he'sprobably never in any of these
movies that we love.
Caddyshack.
Caddyshack and Groundhog Dayand Ghostbusters and all that
stuff.
Life Aquatic.
Speaker 01 (28:03):
He's pretty good in the serious movies too.
Yeah.
Later on in his career.
Steve
Speaker 00 (28:11):
Zissou, yeah.
Yeah.
He
Speaker 01 (28:12):
always plays weird offbeat characters, hey?
The movies are usually weirdand offbeat.
What was the one where he wasin Japan and he was like a James
Bond type guy?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But he was off and they gotpaid to promote this whiskey.
Speaker 00 (28:26):
Yeah, I know.
I should know the title.
Yeah, so should I.
I love...
Scrooged.
Yeah.
I just love how they have theRobert Goulet Christmas hour and
all that stuff.
It's so cheesy.
Yeah.
But it's just, it's a terrificmovie with Karen Allen in it.
Speaker 01 (28:42):
And how good is Groundhog Day?
Yeah.
Like, that's a terrific movie.
Yeah, it is.
Why you get so blasé aboutgetting up in the
Speaker 00 (28:48):
morning and just being a pig?
Yeah.
So, you know, the point being,none of those things probably
would have happened had he notdecided to smuggle some dope.
Or be a comedian at theairport.
Yeah, I know.
What a dumb move.
Yeah.
Anyway, that was a good one.
Worked out.
Here's another one for you.
And this is going back to theTitanic.
(29:11):
Yes.
And this is a real slidingdoors thing.
So the watchman is assigned tothe crow's nest, right?
On top of the Titanic?
Yeah.
The guy...
who's in that job needsbinoculars to keep an eye out
for large things like...
Icebergs.
Icebergs, that'd be it.
(29:31):
But they're locked inside alocker.
Yeah.
So when, right before the shipsailed, the guy who was supposed
to be in that role, that rolewas given to another guy.
And so he didn't hand over thekey...
to the did he do that thelocker vindictively or he didn't
(29:54):
I don't think so I think hejust forgot but basically the
guy who's supposed to be onlookout for icebergs with said
binoculars wasn't because thelocker is locked so wow
Speaker 01 (30:05):
doh! I knew that about the binoculars because you
know a son Luke did a projecton it and said the reason is
because there was no binocularsin the in the watchtower yeah
the crow's nest crazy that iscrazy
Speaker 00 (30:19):
yep So, yeah, a guy called David Blair forgot to
hand over the keys to this otherfellow called Charles
Lightroller.
Good name.
I wonder if David ever thoughtabout that.
Probably.
I don't know.
Oh, man.
Okay, here's another one foryou.
And this may be the luckiestand unluckiest person in the
(30:42):
world at the same time.
So in the Second World War,when America...
dropped the nuclear bomb onHiroshima.
A fellow by the name of TsutomuYamaguchi was working in
Hiroshima.
(31:02):
He was thrown in the air by theimpact, but he survived.
Jeez.
Yeah.
Anyway, he went back home toNagasaki, where he lived.
You know where this is going.
Wow.
And he was trying to tell hisboss about...
This bomb that he justsurvived, and this guy was
saying, no bomb could take out awhole city, I don't believe
(31:23):
you.
And with that, there's amassive white blast.
And this guy was involved inthe Nagasaki bombing as well,
survived that, and lived to belike 93.
But far out.
What are we talking about?
Wrong place, wrong time, right?
Speaker 01 (31:38):
Like twice.
Twice.
He could have been a guineapig, couldn't he?
He could have been like...
like what have they tested on
Speaker 00 (31:44):
him or anything I don't know like how do you
survive that I mean it's ahorrible topic, but yeah what an
amazing story. I t is amazingyou know yeah.
Got one more for you yep andthis is all about the name
Eleanor Rigby the Beatles theBeatles yeah so yeah 1957, John
Lennon and Paul McCartney meet.
(32:04):
They're at the St.
Peter's Church.
I think everyone knows thestory about how they met at the
church fair.
And, you know, from there itwas history.
Apparently, just meters awayfrom where they met was the
grave of a lady by the name ofEleanor Rigby.
Yes.
Now, McCartney always claimedthat he named the character
after an actress called EleanorBronn and a store in Bristol
(32:29):
that was called Rigby and Evans.
But who knows?
There might have been somethingsubliminal there.
Point is, Eleanor Rigby's gravewas auctioned off, but it
failed to sell.
She died alone, and nobody wentto the funeral.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, so, I mean, what's thecoincidence that...
It writes a song.
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They meet.
Yeah.
Meters from where this song isfrom Revolver.
It's a terrific song, too.
Oh, yeah, amazing, yeah.
I heard a stat about theBeatles the other day.
This blows me away.
If the Beatles were stilltogether today, their first
album would have been in 2018.
Wow.
That's how short of a time theywere
Speaker 01 (33:16):
together, right?
Yeah.
And it seems like a lifetime,their music.
Speaker 00 (33:25):
But also how quickly it progressed, right?
Yeah.
So from, you know, She LovesYou and I Want to Hold Your Hand
and all that stuff to...
Yellow Submarine.
Through Yellow Submarine andSgt.
Pepper's and into Let It Be andAbbey Road.
Incredible.
How much they grew.
12 albums in 7 years.
Yeah.
But I don't know about you, butfor better or worse, a song
(33:49):
that was made in 2018 prettywell sounds the same now as a
song that's Yeah.
Yeah.
it was Herman's Hermits, CliffRichards yeah yeah yeah and
(34:19):
Frank Sinatra and so they'vegone from there to 1970 and all
the kind of the next round ofstuff that was coming through
yeah that was just crazy youknow hard rock and all that sort
of stuff but I just find it
Speaker 01 (34:36):
amazing that well yeah they gave so many like they
opened up the door didn't theyyeah this massive door opened up
Speaker 00 (34:44):
totally yeah and so many terrific bands and artists
just went beautiful we'll we'llhave some of that thanks
Speaker 01 (34:51):
and again it was it's just the timing isn't it
like they worked really hard tobe who they were which people
don't realize you know that theyin that early stages you know
touring Germany Europe, eight hour gigs
Speaker 00 (35:03):
in Hamburg every day, yeah
Speaker 01 (35:05):
yeah to become this success and then to become who
they were it was just amazing
Speaker 02 (35:12):
yeah
Speaker 01 (35:13):
there you go
Speaker 00 (35:14):
Okay, welcome back.
The great thing about funfacts, I reckon, is that you can
always retain one or two ofthese things just to annoy
people with, you know?
So I'm going to give you somerapid fire facts here, Mark.
Yep.
(35:35):
I'm ready.
You're ready.
Okay.
So Game of Thrones.
Yes.
The Night's Watch.
Yes.
The outfits that they wore weremade from rugs from Ikea.
Great.
How good.
Speaker 02 (35:48):
It's terrific, isn't it?
Speaker 00 (35:49):
You see all the sets on that show and stuff, but
basically they're Ikea rugs.
All right, here's another onefor you.
A lemon floats, but a limesinks.
Really?
Yep.
Yep.
Limes are denser than lemons,so they drop to the bottom of a
glass whilst lemons float.
So go figure.
Here's another one for you.
(36:11):
The T-Rex likely had feathers.
Yeah, I saw that.
Those crazy Chinese apparentlyhave discovered that the
ancestors of the T-Rex hadfeathers.
So, yes.
A
Speaker 01 (36:23):
bit
Speaker 00 (36:23):
hard to think.
Was it a bird?
Was it a
Speaker 01 (36:27):
plane?
Speaker 00 (36:27):
Was it a T-Rex?
It's a very messed up dinosaur.
Okay, here's another.
So, it's kind of tradition nowwhen people are having a photo
taken or a selfie to say cheese.
But back in the day...
It wasn't the done thing to besmiling.
They used to say, say prunes.
(36:48):
Say the word prunes.
Prunes.
Hmm.
It was seen as childish to havea cheesy grin in the 1840s.
So London photographers used tosay, say prunes to keep your
mouth closed tightly as peopleshould back then.
So when you look at those oldphotos, it kind of makes sense.
Unknown (37:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 00 (37:08):
Prunes.
But how'd they do it when theydid, okay, wanna pull a
Speaker 01 (37:10):
face?
Speaker 00 (37:15):
Well, if that had too many prunes, maybe.
Mart, Last fact, and thisdoesn't apply 100% of the time,
but most of the clocks in themovie Pulp Fiction are set to
4:20.
So I think we're going to haveto go and rewatch that to make
sure that it's true, it's a goodmovie to watch.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
4:20.
4:20.
(37:36):
Okay.
I wonder why that was.
I don't know.
It's maybe a quirk fromTarantino just to put a little
Easter egg in there.
He's good.
I love his movies.
I was talking to my wife,Carol, last night about From
Dusk Till Dawn.
Speaker 01 (37:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 00 (37:51):
And just the whole idea of just flipping on its
head from one minute to the nextto become a vampire movie.
Speaker 02 (37:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 00 (37:57):
I mean, he was so good just at taking a genre and
going, all right, I'm going todo a vampire movie and we'll do
a car movie and we'll do a roadmovie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's pretty cool.
Yeah.
He is
Speaker 01 (38:08):
a very cool guy.
Speaker 00 (38:09):
He
Speaker 01 (38:09):
is.
His favorite clip from thepast, so I've heard, was from
Bewitched, you know, the sexywitch.
Samantha?
Yeah.
Was it Derwin?
Darren, yeah.
Darren.
Was it?
Did she have a twin sister?
The mother-in-law used to callhim Derwin.
But she had a twin sister,didn't she?
(38:31):
Yeah.
Sort of like more evil.
Yep.
But she does.
And if you Google it, it'sreally quite good.
She plays this song with aguitar and what she's wearing is
pretty, yeah, pretty for thattime.
Speaker 00 (38:45):
Yeah.
Okay.
So Google that one.
I think that's probably a goodpoint to end the show.
Yeah, I've enjoyed that.
Yeah, it's been good fun andwe've covered a lot of territory
and I'm now off to Googlebewitched evil sister.
Playing guitar.
Actually, we'll put a link inthe show notes for that one,
Mart.
That's good.
Speaker 01 (39:04):
Good idea.
Speaker 00 (39:05):
Yeah.
Okay, well, look, that's aboutit.
Thanks for listening, everyone.
And if you want to get in touchwith us, ask us a question or
give us a topic you might likeus to talk about, then get in
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See you next time.
Speaker 01 (39:25):
See you.
Unknown (39:27):
Bye.
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