Reactions to the first RayGun interview

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
To speak to her. He was pretty careful. Obviously Channel
tenor one of the networks that are trying to fight
for her signature so that she may end up on Celebrity,
Get Me out of Here or one of those things.
I mean celebrity for mediocrity, and I don't mean that nastily.
And this is the thing. There's some people that just say,

(00:22):
I stop the hate. It's such an easy statement to say.
This is observation, and a lot of people are wondering
why someone that clearly was way off the mark in
performance was able to be selected for the International Games
over in Paris top honor, and after a games where
Australia was saying it's our most successful because it was

(00:44):
our most successful and we have so much pride in
our performance even if someone comes last.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
She was brought in to keep us humble.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
It just felt like it's so way off the mark.
And we spoke early about it being looking like Celeste
Barber had gone, hey, I've made it, and she was
in a tracks it doing it well, you go, that's funny,
well done. This is someone that takes it very seriously.
So yes, everyone's gone down a rabbit hole. We're not
trying to be nasty. We're just trying to be honest.

(01:12):
We're trying to understand, how understand the process and have
we got better Australian breakdancers. Well, I believe we do.
She's not saying that she did so. First of all,
Wali'd asked at one stage, how did you actually qualify?

Speaker 3 (01:27):
Let's hear it from you. How did you qualify for
the Paris twenty twenty four Olympics. I won the Oceania Championships,
as simple as that.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, that was.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
A direct qualifier.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, only fifteen girls were in that qualifier. We saw
the dance between Molly and herself, which was the final
dance off that Reagan beat, and most people that have
seen it, even without a breaking background, have said that
Molly looked like she was I mean, she probably wasn't
the greatest breakdancer, but better. She was better on that

(02:07):
day on that performance. Now we're not judges, so we
don't know what they're looking for. She's mentioned also in
the interview at one stage, you know, it was pretty
tough for thirty six year old learning power moves in
the lead up to the Olympics.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
You shouldn't be learning something if you've qualified, you should
already know it.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Be part of you qualifying. But she's her narrative is that.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
There's nobody else in Australia, that the breaking community isn't
big enough.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
We've gone down the line of an art form rather
than it's my artistic dance. Rather than the power moves.
I've gone for more of an artist feel. And I
guess they're all the things that the industry says, but
she didn't really do it. Like sliding on the floor
back and forward, like with your legs doing some sort.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Of scissor move.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
That's not that's not artistic. That's oh you think it
is not for the Olympics.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
It could be artistic anywhere else. But I think the
confusing thing is with most sports there is in most games,
there's rules, regulations, and there are a way to judge.
She's basically saying, any move goes, do you know what
I mean? So therefore we're used to the breaking that
we see even in music videos, people spitting on their

(03:30):
heads and flipping and turning. Because she didn't do any
of that, we're like, you're not breaking, But at the
same time, what is breaking? That's what she keeps saying yeah,
I know, I'm not making any sense. She said one
thing in the interview that got me, and it was
that she hasn't watched it back and that she hates
watching herself back and doesn't watch herself back. And to
me that was alarm bells because it's a critical part

(03:53):
of being an elite athlete, and that is to watch
your performance and improve on the performance based on what
you see, because there is a difference between a coach
telling you and then you having that aha moment when
you actually see that your strokes a little bit out
or that you're catching a ball. Differently, every football player
they go and watch themselves on the Monday.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
After a game day. There's a review.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yes, she basically thinks she's good because it feels good,
not because it looks good, because she hasn't watched herself
to see that she doesn't look good. Do I make sense?

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, well that I feel like there is a little
bit of delusion there also, So she said, look, I
knew I was going to get beaten, talked about how
she was going to get smashed, absolutely smashed.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
I mean it's fairly stark.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Did you know it was going to be rough?

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yeah, I knew my chances were slim. As soon as
I qualified, I was like, oh my gosh, what have
I done? Because I knew that I was going to
get beaten, and I knew that people were not going
to understand my style and what I was going to do.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
It's not understanding it, it's just it wasn't like we
all know there's better breakdancers in the female category in Australia.
So however they've she like, she's already opened up and
said I qualified, but other athletes that are great weren't there.
So how did that fall through the cracks?

Speaker 2 (05:17):
And the thing that speaks to me there is I
knew I wasn't going to win. What Olympic athlete goes
to the games saying to themselves, I'm not going to win,
none of them. You have to tell yourself you're going
to win. You have to believe you're going to win.
You have to act like a winner. That is just
one oh one of an elite athlete.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
It's what we all expect. She was asked, are you
the best female breakdancer in Australia?

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Did you genuinely think you are the best female breaker
in Australia? Well, I think my record speaks to that.
You know, I was the top ranked Australian B girl
in twenty twenty and twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three.
I've been invited to present at how many World Championships Paris, Korea?

(06:05):
You know, So the record is there. But anything can
happen in a battle, you know, it's always about what
happens on the day that consistency shows you know, my level.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
So there's now it's about she knows that she's not
answering the question because that didn't answer are you the
best Australian breakdancer? She talked about she qualified these are
the people that are better breakdancers, which they were given
a grant to actually go around and find the best
breakdances in Australia and they didn't. And we know that.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Then is it Reagan's fault or is it their.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Fault the association they started the association. Oh okay, so
they're the ones they got the grant. It's their association.
The husband was meant to go around and find the
best and so she says that's conspiracy. So we're still
from that interview. We didn't get the we didn't get
clear answers, so people are still looking into it. This

(07:06):
is not about being nasty or having hate the fact
that she's going to now make a lot of money
and sign up with all these TV networks and maybe
be on Dancing with Stars or celebrity to get me
out of here, which is all the talk in the
industry that frustrates me. When you've got Alexa Leary who's
in the Paralympics right now or the Paragames overseas, and

(07:28):
athletes like that should be getting pedestal recognized and getting
the opportunity to be in these shows so they can
fund their next event, so that they can actually have
money for that success.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
So they can represent Australia. That's right exactly, I hear you.