Episode 100: Margie's MAGA Moment & The Downtown Comeback!

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Every time that we gettogether, we try to focus on a local
locally owned restaurant ofsome sort.
And this time around we'regoing to talk a little bit about
Margie's Bakery.
Margie's been around for along time and one of the things that
they most recently became veryfamous for the MAGA cookies that

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they created.
They actually created this cookie.
I had MAGA on it and it blewup online and became a big deal.
And they sold tons and tonsand tons of cookies.
I had a couple of them.
It was a good cookie.
Typical Margie's cookie.
It wasn't anything outrageousat all.

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But obviously the connectionto Donald Trump and the connection
to the Make America GreatAgain movement stirred a little bit
of controversy, although notnearly what you might expect.
After all, they, I mean, theyare in a very, I guess what you would
call a Trump friendly part ofthe country, being here in Wichita

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Falls, Texas.
Very, very Trump friendly.
He won the election this timehere by, I don't know what, like
85% of the vote or somethinglike that.
Wild.
So anyway, but they, they arelocally on Bakery.
They're located on Caulfield Road.
Yeah, just right around thecorner from here.
Yeah, down a little bit, a few blocks.

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Yeah.
Pretty close to Caulfield Neolin that area.
And I don't know what hoursare open.
I think I'm working on thatright now.
I'm sure just like any bakery,they probably open early.
Yeah.
Oh, let's see.
Open more hours.
Let's look.
Yep, seven.
Well, okay, Friday, they'reopen seven most.

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Okay.
Monday they're eight to five.
And the rest of the week, thenormal week is 7 to 5, except on
Saturdays they're 9am to 2:30.
2:30.
Closed on Sundays, closed on Sunday.
So there you go, Margie's Bakery.
Check them out.
And breakfast, they got lunch,they got.
Obviously that's the thingthey serve.
They serve food.
They do, I think sandwichesand that kind of thing.

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Yeah, I've eaten there.
It's been a while, but I'veeaten there before.
It's really good.
Yeah, they.
Yeah, they got.
They got cakes and cookies andpies and all the other stuff.
You know, of course, you gotto get his pies.
Their pies, you know, nottaking anything away from Margie's,
but, you know, you.
You have this relationship, soyou gotta.

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You know, Margie's, you do agood job, but your pecan pie can't
touch hours.
I'm sorry.
So nice try, but it's just.
Can't do that.
But yeah, so we got them.
Yeah.
This.
Their Margie's Bakery and Delhi.com.
and of course, I'm surethey're on Facebook and.
Oh, they are.
But yeah.

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All right, check them out.
Well, so moving on here, localhappenings going on around the area.
The Harlem Globetrotters,surprise, surprise, surprise, wow.
Are returning to Witch All Falls.
The Sugar Ray isn't Sugar Ray lemon.
Or not Sugar Ray Metal Arc.
Lemon.
Metal.

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Yeah.
Meadowlark.
I think metal.
AR's dead.
Yeah, I think.
I think he passed away.
That's.
That is.
I still have a memory.
When I was a kid, I.
Me too.
That's who I remember.
They probably.
In some ways they're.
They probably have bigger or,you know, they had really good tricks
then.
But I'm sure they've gotsomething similar and probably better,
more elaborate.

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I don't know.
For whatever reason, they'vebeen a huge attraction here.
And for those of you thatdon't live around here.
Let me.
Let me kind of explain something.
Sporting events in WichitaFalls historically don't go very
well.
If it's kids soccer if it'skids baseball, if it's high school

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football, yes.
You got to make money.
Right.
But yeah, if it's, if it's.
Yeah, if it's, if it's a, ifit's a profit generating venture
that you're into.
Because we've had semi probasketball here with the CBA years
and years ago.
We've had semi pro footballhere, semi pro baseball here.

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None of these things have succeeded.
Well, soccer, but I thinksoccer, the soccer deal didn't even
get a chance because Covid hit just.
I think in their second season.
Yeah, it hit.
And of course, the firstseason, this, this is a new league
and everything out of Amarilloand Lubbock or.
Maybe.
I think so.
I think so.
But they're, you know, itjust, it just doesn't do well here.

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And because people don'tsupport it, it'll show up.
And initially it'll get a big,it'll get a big, you know, push of
support.
You know, the first couple ofsemi pro football games here were
huge.
The crowds were massive.
Spent a lot of money to get.
They spent.
They spent of dollars a couple of.
Cars over a few seasons.
A couple seasons, yes.

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And the same person.
Yeah, that, that was a, that,that was.
I don't.
What are the.
Of course they, they bought alot of tickets.
They bought.
I'm sure they did.
And it was a fluke.
Wow.
But it was an embarrassing fluke.
Yeah.
It's like, oh, but imaginebeing the promoter side of that.
I like, oh my God, how do youput that fire out?

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You know?
But anyway, so not for, notfor lack of effort.
I mean, the people that havebeen behind these ventures have really
put forth a tremendous effort,but the public support just hasn't
been there.
So for something like the Globetrotters.
Now, granted, they come hereonce a year.
It's not a weekly thing or amonthly thing.
It's a once a year thing.
But they seem to do very well here.

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So they're going to be here.
Was it March 2nd?
5:00?
I'm assuming they're going tobe playing in the Kay Yeager Coliseum.
That's where they usually do perform.
What's the name?
It's not an msu.
That's the only other place.
Not Dale League.
And now they're going to be playing.
I'm almost certain it's goingto be a K.
Yeager.
Although that doesn't say.

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But it, it is going to be.
Does it say Ky.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
Wait a minute.
Sorry.
I messed you up there?
Okay.
There you go.
Okay.
All right.
Ky calls him.
Got it.
So anyway, March 2nd, it's ona Sunday, 5:00, Harlem Globetrotters.
I'm sure tickets are availableright now.
As a matter of fact, if you'llgo to wfmpeck.com you can probably

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find.
Tickets, tell them we sent you.
Yeah, they're not going togive you one penny's discount for
saying that.
So in fact, they're going tolook at you and go, who?
Yeah.
So anyway, the fifth annual St.
Patrick's Day Downtown StreetFestival is coming.
This is always huge.
SRI festivals do very well here.
Coming up Saturday, March 15,and it's going to be from 2 to 9,

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Bud Daniel Park.
That's at 9th in Ohio,downtown Wichita Falls.
You can get moreinfo@downtownwf.com always.
The Downtown Festivals haveseen significant growth in the last
several years and significant successes.
People are latching onto thosenow while they, they may not go out

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and pay 30 bucks to go watch asemi pro football game, but they'll
go downtown to a festival allday long.
So.
And that's good.
That's great.
More and more downtownbusinesses are taking part and being
a part of it.
There's more and morebusinesses there to take a part in
it.
That's it.
So slowly but surely that thedowntown has been.
It has the increase in thepopulation, both residentially.

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Yes.
And.
Yeah.
Would be the commercial commercially.
Yeah, there you go.
That's why you're a highlypaid radio and now talk show host.
That's, that's why I get 1850a week to do this.
That's, oh, 18.50 a week justfor the privilege of coming in the
door.

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So anyway, you know, well,it's a fee anyway.
It's going to be a good time.
It always is.
And I really am glad to seedowntown Wichita Falls is coming
back.
I just, I keep telling people,you know, I remember what it was
like 30, 35 years ago versus today.
It's daylight and dark.

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And we're finally comingaround to the realization that there
really are some innovativethings that we could do down there.
I think the city is finallycoming around, you know, from a governmental
standpoint, some things.
One of the things I still wantto see done more is take some of
this economic developmentmoney that we collect from sales

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taxes, go downtown and repairsome sidewalks, repair more streets.
They're reinstalling trafficsignals at a couple of intersections
downtown that were taken outyears ago because the traffic flow
had dropped to nothing.
Now it's coming back andthey're bringing those red lights
back and they need to.

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And matter of fact, there's anintersection right there at 10th,
I think it's 10th and Scott,that if you're on the 10th street
side going east west, you havethe stop sign.
If you're not careful, you'llget run over.
They come flying through that intersection.
There's going to be a trafficlight there from the looks of it,

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because I was there at thatintersection yesterday.
And it looks like probablywithin the next, I don't know, 90
days, they'll probably have asignal active there.
It looks like they've got thepole installed, they've got the boxes
installed, the control boxes installed.
I think now it's just a matterof, I think, you know, they'll probably
put up some stop signs orsomething to kind of get people used

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to the idea of stopping both ways.
But yeah, people will run,they will blow through that intersection
like mag going down Scott Avenue.
So but anyway, it is coming back.
More businesses come todowntown and I think more things
happening and hopefully wehave city government doing more to
encourage and not discouragegrowth down there as well.

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Coming up on March 19th.
This is a Wednesday.
It's the 2025 State of the economy.
This is going to be, I guess,a kind of a conference.
I guess 9:00, Sykes or SykesLake Center.
I believe this is actuallypart of the MSU campus, kind of the.

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I think we used to just callit the PE Building or something like
that.
It's a structure out by thelake right off of.
Off of Midwestern Parkway.
So that's going to be 9 to 11on March 19th.
I don't.
Is there any.
You've taken part in thatbefore, haven't you?
Or maybe it was Trey that had.

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I'm not sure if there's anadmission fee to be a part of this
or not or what.
There is, but you can finddetails online on that if you'll
just Google State of theeconomy, Wichita Falls, 2025.
It'll bring you to it.
And you can see some moredetails on that coming up.
Again, that's March 19th.
It's on a Wednesday, 9 to 11,Sykes Lake center here in Wichita

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Falls.
You sent me a story.
Yes.
The other day and it was.
So apparently Tennessee hasenacted a bill.
Can we throw that up on the screen?
That image?
It is actually up on the screen.
Okay, there we go.
Yes, Tennessee billcriminalizes voting against Trump

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immigration policy.
Of course.
Reporting on it.
Yes.
They're doing a Quote a fact checking.
Yeah.
You know, I'm sure they haveno agenda, but that's the, that's
the poly, that's the kind ofthe headline they're, they're going
with.
Now hold on just a second.
Look at that photograph.
Do you think it's any mistakethat they use that photo of him gesturing
with his hand out like that?

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Yeah.
Good lord, people get real.
Come on.
So, yeah.
So basically, so this is,they're rating it as a mixture of
true and false and basicallythey're saying what's true is, is
that the Tennessee state billmakes it a felony for local government
officials to vote in supportof sanctuary policies protecting

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immigrants in the country illegally.
President Donald Trump'sadministration has taken steps to
weaken so called sanctuarylaws that cooperation with federal
immigration authorities.
So basically it does.
Is what if that's true?
It's, that's the wording of itthat voting for now I kind of, I

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it and I'm gonna, I'm gonnatake this because I've read it.
It seems to have.
That is true that if you votefor it.
Yeah, I, I did.
I don't know what, I'm not sure.
Can you.
Is it free speech?
And I'm not, you know, no attorney.
So I don't know all the insand outs of this.

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But if, I mean we have peoplethat are advocating for all sorts
of things all the time thatare not legal.
Yes.
So just the fact that you'vedone it, that you've said hey, I
want to go against this lawand doesn't mean you have.
But then if you write a lawand the, and the whole, that body

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passes that law that's inconflict with federal.
Because the federal law haswhat's the supremacy clause or something
like that that basically saysthat the, if, if it's in conflict
with the federal law, then it,it's the federal law.
Federal law wins out.
Yeah.
So, so if, and of course we'renot, we haven't been enforcing as

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a, as a law.
Now of course this isTennessee only.
Right.
This isn't any others.
This isn't federal or anythinglike that.
But if you're passing a lawthat is against the law.
Yeah.
Then how, how does that work?
And I think that's one ofthose things has to be worked out

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in court.
It will, this, this willpeople though this, something like
this sounds like ultimately itends up in front of the Supreme Court
of the United States at some point.
Now that could take months,that could take years.
Who knows, who knows how longthat takes.
But I will tell you this.

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The federal government has anobligation to enforce immigration
policy in this country.
Yes.
And it has failed miserably.
They have failed miserably forseveral years now to do this.
It is worth pointing out,however, more illegals were deported
from this country under theObama administration than were deported

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under Bush.
45.
I was at 40 or 43.
I can't remember.
I think it's 43.
George H.W.
or George W.
Bush.
George W.
Bush and Bill Clinton combineddeported fewer people than Obama
did, if I'm not mistaken.

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That's the math.
The two of those twopresidents combined, one Republican,
one Democrat, deported moreillegals than Obama did.
So we're woefully behind herein terms of enforcing our own federal
immigration policies.
And what we're going to haveto do is we're going to have to let

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the law be enforced.
We have to.
It's not a choice.
We've got to.
We have to do it.
We actually have.
And this is the thing, guys.
It doesn't matter if 1% of thepeople who enter this country illegally
are criminals.
Murderers, rapists, armedrobbers, violent gang members, whatever

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their crime is.
If 1% of them are criminals,it's 1% too many.
Well, but it.
And, you know, one could argue.
I know it's not the mostimportant part of it.
Well, kind of is the mostimportant part.
You're in.
You're inherently breaking the law.
You're a criminal.
Of course, you haven't beenconvicted necessarily, but.

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But that.
You are breaking the law,clearly, when you are here and you
didn't go through the normalprocess, but it's just it.
But here's the thing.
They say, well, they commitcrimes less than.
Well, it doesn't.
That's irrelevant.
They shouldn't be here tobegin with.
Yeah, exactly.
And there's a process, andit's a slap in the face to all the

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people who have gone throughthe process legally.
That's right.
And that's obviously raceaside completely, because we've let
our whole country.
We've got a ton of immigrants.
I mean, that's okay.
We don't have any.
That's fine.
Nobody has any problem with that.
It's just the fact that you'rebreaking the law.
And then most of yourancestors were immigrants to this

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country.
Most of my ancestors wereimmigrants to this country.
White.
And so that doesn't count, you know.
But most of them from Europe,I got.
I got.
I got English, French, Irish,German, and we think an Italian snuck
in there somewhere.
Way back when, we don't knowhow, but it happened.
And it's a joke, but no, itactually is there.

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But anyway, point being, I'm amutt, for crying out loud.
I am a genuine mutt, probablyso, you know, I get it.
But here's the thing, though.
You can't just leave yourborders wide open and let anybody
who wants to come into thecountry have no idea where they are.
And then you have people whoare criminals getting into the country.
Right.
We've got our own Crip.

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We need to deal with our owncriminals that were born here first.
Yes.
We need to and are here legally.
We have enough crime withoutimporting more.
Right.
It doesn't.
It has nothing to do with how many.
It's the principle from thevery beginning, the root.
What's.
What's the term?
There's something legally, thefruit of.

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Basically, it's saying thatthe results of an illegal thing,
no matter how bold or howhonorable, are still illegal.
Right.
Right.
You can.
You can.
You can sell.
Do all kinds of drugs and selldrugs and then give it to the, you
know, to your chur.
Church.
That doesn't make that money.

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Clean it up.
Right.
It doesn't clean it up.
So.
So don't.
So that's the issue here.
And it's.
I just, I don't.
I guess I don't understand the thinking.
I do.
We all understand ifsomebody's true in their heart, that
they want to help people.

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I totally get that.
But there's.
I think even those people, ifthey are honest with themselves,
really understand that there'sstill laws to follow.
And yes, it's unfair and whatever.
It's.
When the political machinegets ahold of this and has now turned
this into.
So, but anyway, all of that,yes, we're going to spend money up

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front because, you know, the whole.
All this effort with Doge andall that to try to get rid of, you
know, wasteful spending andall of that.
Speaking of that.
Speaking.
Speaking of that.
You know what?
Trump was running for president.
One of the things that hepromised to do was root out the waste
and the fraud.
It's turning into some.

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And they're uncoveringbillions of dollars in waste in one
program, in one single program.
Aid.
What a U.S.
aid.
U.S.
aid.
Oh, my gosh.
You've got billions of dollarsin waste and fraud that's been uncovered
already, and there's billionsmore to be uncovered.
And this, guys, this.
This should anger everybody.

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I don't care where you fall onthe political spectrum.
You should be Mad as hell thatyour government, that your elected
officials and the unelectedbureaucrats that work under them,
that they hire, that you can't.
You and I can't fire, okay?
That these elected officialsand unelected bureaucrats are out

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here literally stealing from you.
They are literally.
They are literally scamming you.
We are spending millions ofdollars on ridiculous.
I saw a list the other day,and I wish I had in front of me,
but I don't.
But I saw this ridiculous listthat was published of all these different
programs that we have, that wehave funneled money into.

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Many of them, not even here inAmerica, a lot of them overseas programs
and things like this.
It's ridiculous.
Our money, our tax revenueneeds to be spent here first.
Needs to be.
We have a massive homelesspopulation in this country.
We have a lot of homelessveterans in this country.

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That shouldn't be, thatshouldn't be happening.
But yet we'll send millions ofdollars to a foreign nation, to a
foreign entity, whatever, forsome ridiculous, stupid, idiotic,
moronic program.
And they're throwing yourmoney away and my money away.
And every single one of usought to be angry.

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This is being uncovered now.
The other side is mad becauseit's being un.
Uncovered.
They're big mad.
They're crazy mad because it'sbeen uncovered and a stop is being
put to this.
But here's the thing, Terry.
How deep does this really go?
Well, okay, so one of the.
How deep does this fraudreally go?
Right?
One, one part of this programwas paying Politico for subscriptions

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for others.
And apparently they are now inhurting status.
They can't make payroll orsomething because the aid US Aid
funding for their subscriptions.
So the money went away and nowthey're mad about it.
It's like, I just don't, Idon't understand that.

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I, I mean, I get it, but.
You and I should not be subsidizing.
This politico of all.
Of all organizations, technically.
What is Politico?
Are they like a nonprofit?
I've never really.
I don't know if they're anonprofit or not, but I do know.
I know they're very left leaning.
Oh, yeah.

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Very left leaning.
And so it really shouldn'tsurprise anyone, given, you know,
the administration of the lastfour years, that they would be somehow
profiting from this.
But, but it's still.
It's an insult to the American taxpayer.
It's an insult to the American voter.
It's an insult to all of us.

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Here's the thing, too.
All of this waste and this fraud.
You can't put all of it on Democrats.
And I'm going to tell you why.
Because Republicans have hadcontrol of the purse strings a number
of times over the last 40years, 50 years.
They've had every opportunityin the world to address this, and
they haven't done it.

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They've had every opportunityin the world to actually do something
meaningful about it, andthey've not done it.
So now all of a sudden, youhave a president who's come back
into office, Trump, and he'sbrought a couple of people with him

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that are going through thebooks and finding all this nonsense,
and we're putting a stop to it.
Well, it's like, you know,how's the old saying, how do you
eat an elephant?
One bite at a time.
That's right.
That's what you got to do here.
One bite at a time.
We're not going to shuteverything down all at once.
It's not going to be easy todo that.
But at the same time, there'sclearly, clearly there's lots and

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lots and lots of fraud andwaste that can be rooted out and
needs to be rooted out and isbeing rooted out.
But it's going to take littlebit of time to get all this done.
Here's my prediction.
Trump can probably spend mostof the next three and a half years
doing nothing but shuttingdown all of the garbage that's been

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going on if we do nothing else.
Now, a lot of people aresaying, well, why aren't we addressing
the economy?
What's he going to do aboutthe price of eggs?
He's not going to do anythingabout the price of eggs, guys.
However, there are.
This is the thing, guys.
The government doesn't create anything.
It doesn't produce anything.
It doesn't create products.
It doesn't even deliverservices all that great other than

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military protection and pavingroads and delivering the mail, that
kind of thing.
Other than that, governmentdoesn't produce anything.
Industry does.
The one thing the federalgovernment can do is not engage in
stupid policy making.
That makes it harder.
There was a USDA official thatwas fired a few days ago who allegedly

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had a hand in ordering theculling of millions of chickens over
this bird flu thing.
And there you go.
There's why your egg pricesare so stinking high, y'all.
We can't be killing off allthe laying hens and not impact the
market.

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I believe, personally, this isall being done by design.
The government has got to stopengaging in creating policies that
make it more difficult forbusinesses to do business that make
it more difficult forbusinesses to create and produce
and deliver product andservices to the public, whether it's

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individuals or otherbusinesses, whatever.
The government's got to stopdoing this.
So one of the things that Ihope we're going to see happen with
Trump is, no, he's not goingto magically fix the price of eggs.
What he can do is he can fixthe bad policy making that leads
to these idiotic thingshappening in the first place.

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And, you know, I mean, we'renot egg expert, chicken experts,
but, you know, it.
That's a reason.
A part of the reason, yes.
Was they probably ended upkilling off, you know, in order to
keep the spread.
That was supposedly the intention.
But I mean, what.
I mean, I don't know.
It makes you wonder, well, whywould they do that?

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Because Trump's coming into play.
You know, I don't know.
It just all seems very coincidental.
Yeah.
That things start happeningthe way they happen.
I don't think any of thisstuff happens by accident, folks.
I think so much of this is by design.
They want to influence theeconomy and society in a certain

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way, and they use policyagainst you.
I do have one concern that Iwant to voice about Doge and all
of this.
The thing.
A lot of the executive ordersthat Trump has.
Has signed.
Elon Musk's involvement.

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Yeah.
And.
Well, it's not really so muchthat I just.
All right.
As I understand it, anexecutive order, one of the purposes
behind an executive order isto clarify things when the law does
not address it, because, youknow, laws are, as we know, are very

(29:22):
imperfect at times.
Yeah.
They can't cover every single situation.
But within whatever thatauthority is that.
That he, as the President, has to.
To clarify policy, how we'regoing to implement something if it's
not addressed or when it'sdirectly under the executive branch
and.
And all of that.
So I do have concerns, though, that.

(29:44):
That they maybe touch on ordirectly go up as an opposition to,
like, funding that Congressdid approve.
Right.
There's.
So I don't.
I'm not an attorney.
Clearly, I said that.
And we're not trying topretend we know all of that, but
it makes me.
I want to ask those questionsabout how is it that it is legal

(30:06):
for him to make these kinds ofchanges that seemingly, maybe on
the surface, look like theyare in conflict with what Congress
had intended, even if it's wrong.
And so I just.
I just have those questions.
But just like that, though, ifthere's a gray Area, I think we should
go for it.

(30:27):
Because the reason is becausesometimes stuff doesn't happen until
we push it into a court,because right decision needs to be
made.
And if, and I've always saidthis, if our last million dollars
in the federal government wasat the end of the voting period,

(30:47):
that they're trying to getbills passed to meet the budget and
all that stuff, if they'redown to their last million dollars
and one side says, we want tofund veterans programs over here,
and then somebody else wantsto do research on the, you know,
rhesus monkey in the farreaches of the Antarctic or something.

(31:13):
And as, even as ridiculous asit might be, if you fought it out
ethically, everybody was thereand, you know, everybody.
Some people get mad over it.
In the end, when the vote isdone, you go, all right, congratulations,
y'all won.
We'll catch it the next time.
So you're done.

(31:33):
You've spent your last million dollars.
You haven't gone into debt.
That's okay.
That's what we do in Texasevery two years and other states
that we have to do that.
So, so I'm all for this, and Ithink we need to push the boundaries.
I'm all for that.
And, and for, for these peopleto be all angry over one program,

(31:53):
which apparently so far lookslike it's in there and looks like
that they can do these thingswithin that USAID program.
But then on the other side ofit, I don't want, I want to be careful
about, like, the.
I want to know more about theaccess to the treasury information.
I don't think, I hope that he can't.

(32:16):
They can't just simply stopthe checks from flowing.
If, if, if Elon Musk has thatpower, I think I have a problem with
that.
Well, I think there's.
First of all, I think lookingat it, though, no, there's going
to be legal challenges.
You can almost guaranteethere's going to be court challenges
to a lot of things thatthey're doing.

(32:37):
And I want there to be.
And, you know, if the courtscan come back and say, yeah, they've
uncovered something fraudulenthere, there's.
This is blatant waste here,then by all means, it needs to be
stopped.
It's got to be.
Guys, we cannot keep spinningourselves into a hole.
We just can't do it.
You know, we can't do it.
We just, they keep, we keephearing talk every.

(32:58):
Seems like about every six oreight months about the debt ceiling.
Let's keep raising it.
That's what that we basicallywe just.
We just keep giving ourselvesmore headroom to go further and further
into debt rather thanaddressing what we're spending our
money on.
Look, guys, it's not, it's.
You can break it down this simple.

(33:19):
In your household, in yourhousehold, when money becomes tight,
you start looking at expenses,you start looking at what you can
cut, you start looking at whatyou can live without.
That's what you do.
When the money becomes tightand it starts to become a challenge.
Okay, can I pay the mortgagethis month or do I buy a new car

(33:43):
this month?
Well, if those, you know, formost of us that's an easy choice.
Got to have a roof over my head.
New car, who needs it?
I need a roof over my head.
So you're going to put yourpriorities in order and you're going
to take care of your home, youknow, food, clothing, shelter.
You're going to take care ofthose things first.
We're not doing that as a country.

(34:05):
We are literally dumpingmoney, good money after bad, on all
sorts of stuff.
Here, take a look at.
This is the usa, the national debt.
This is a real timerepresentation of the debt clock.
We are 36 trillion and counting.
36 and a half trillion.
And the thing was, how far,what was this before COVID Just,

(34:26):
just a.
Few years ago, I want to saywe were probably somewhere closer
to 25 trillion.
We can go to time machine.
They have a little thing.
Oh, 20.
20 right here.
Yep.
Oh my gosh, look at 25 and.
We'Ve got 11 trillion plus.
Go back, go back to the realtime clock for a moment.
I want to point out somethingon that clock and I know it may be

(34:47):
hard to see on the screenhere, but if you go down, I believe
it's toward the bottom rightcorner there.
The number is somewhere around200 trillion.
Is it 220something trillion,the unfunded liabilities.
Okay, here.
Yes, zoom in on it.
So it's 226 trill.

(35:12):
Is that, that is trillion, trillion.
Okay.
There's so many, you know, so basically.
This is the national debt plusall of the unfunded mandates that
are sitting out there,including Social Security, including
Medicare and, and you know,pensions by law.
By law automatically happenand the money has to come out somewhere.

(35:34):
That's the number you'relooking at right there.
Now that's, that's committeddown the road, right?
That's years down the road.
Can you even still, Terry, canyou even fathom what $225 trillion
looks like?
Really?
Even phantom.
What A trillion dollars Lookslike because that is some huge.
There's a number that youcan't even analogies out there.

(35:56):
I mean I don't, I don't knowfor a fact, but it would seem to
me physically if you piled upa trillion dollars and one hundred
dollar bills in this building,you probably fill up this entire
room that we're sitting inright now and then some, you know,
easily, easily.
Most people cannot even fathomwhat this looks like physically.
I have to play this exercise.

(36:17):
So go ahead.
I'm going to.
You can't even calculate it.
And the fact of the matter is,is it just keeps getting worse and
worse and worse and we can sithere all day long.
It just boggles my imaginationwhen politicians on both sides of
the aisle start talking aboutexpenditures and they start talking
about things in millions.
Well, it's only a few million dollars.

(36:38):
Well yeah, it's 100 milliondollar project.
That's a drop in the bucket.
I am so sick of hearing that.
I'm tired of hearing that.
I am tired of electedofficials trivializing the debt that
you're committing my childrenand my grandchildren to, that you've
committed us to, that you, I'mtired of you trivializing this.

(37:04):
Enough.
We're not asking you to takeit seriously.
We're ordering you to take it seriously.
This is a direct order.
Do it.
Trump, I think is at leastmaking an attempt here to address
some of this.
Yes.
And I think there are peoplein Congress who genuinely want to
address it.

(37:24):
But unfortunately they alsohave a few people in Congress that
are still so addicted to thespending, they're hooked on the credit
card, Terry.
They won't put the damn thing down.
They just keep spending.
Okay.
To try to give somebody somebenefit of the doubt here.
Do you think that there arepeople certainly out in our society

(37:46):
that have become conditionedto that being an entitlement, that
that's what the government isfor because they've been taught it
is not even so much what youte, it's how you act and how, what
the behavior and what has thegovernment been doing?

(38:07):
The acts of actually doing itand providing those money and putting
people into a dependency situation.
But real quick, real quick,dependency is a great way to describe
it.
Yeah.
So chat GPT.
I said simple request, pleaseprovide an analogy for what $1 trillion

(38:28):
really is.
Probably not the best wording,but it responded very well.
Here's a mind blowing analogy.
Well, several analogies forwhat $1 trillion really looks like.
Okay, stacking $1 bills.
If you stacked $1 trillion $1bills on top of each other.

(38:50):
The pile would reach about,just guess.
30,000Ft.
67,866 miles.
What I'm gonna fact check.
I'm gonna leave that.
But okay.
Over a quarter way to the moonspending it.

(39:12):
If you were to spend a milliondollars a day since the year 0 AD,
you still wouldn't have spenta trillion dollars today.
Wow.
Time comparison.
1 million seconds is about a11 and a half days.
Okay.
Is that reasonable?
Okay.

(39:32):
1 billion seconds is 31.7 years.
1 trillion seconds is 31,709 years.
1 trillion seconds wouldpredate the birth of Christ and would
predate modern humans probablyon the North American continent.
Yeah.
Let me see if I can.

(39:54):
I think, I think calculatorseems plausible.
So there's a basic.
And let's go to convert hereand see time.
Where's time?
Time.
Surely there's time here.
Maybe not.
Yeah, it is time.
I just.
I want to fact check.
So we have a second.

(40:16):
Okay.
So I have.
I am going to.
All clear.
So what did we say?
A trillion.
One trillion seconds.
Okay.
So.
And how many zeros they have?
1 0.
0.
There's a hundred.
It's too early for me to countlike that.
There's a hundred million.
A hundred billion.

(40:40):
Well.
Or is that it?
That's 100 billion.
One more.
Three.
One.
Just one more would be.
Okay.
Trillion.
Okay, that's good.
That's okay.
How many?
That's showing.
So we want days.
That's 11 million days.

(41:00):
Wow.
Which then how many.
How many years would that be?
That'd be 31,000.
Yeah.
Okay.
We've.
We've 31,709.
Yep.
Yep.
31,709 years.
Because.
Because I've.
I've had chat GPT do terribleat math in the past.
I just wanted to.
It's gotten better at it.
Here's the thing.
We.
We've got.
We've got all this waste andfraud going on.

(41:22):
Okay.
If you cut all that out, yousave billions of dollars a year.
Yes.
Get the spending under control.
There are things that thefederal government has no business
being involved in, period.
Get him out of it.
Get him out of the business ofjust spending money for the sake
of spending money.
Yes.
Job number one, that's got tostop the secret.

(41:43):
The secret to, you know,fixing a bullet wound.
Number one, stop the bleeding.
Yeah.
You got a triage?
Yes.
And stop the bleeding.
Yes.
Stop the dad gum bleeding.
But you got to find thebleeding first before you know.
Right.
So that's why you have to digsometimes you have to do exploratory
surgery and you open up andthat's, and.
That'S what they're doing.
They're doing the exploratory surgery.

(42:03):
They're finding the waste.
If we can put a stop to, if wecan put a stop to.
You just do the math on it.
If you can, if you can wipeout billions of dollars of waste
annually over a period oftime, you start to save tens, hundreds
of billions of dollars andultimately a trillion dollars.
Yeah.
Now paying off the national debt.

(42:24):
We, this used to be a headline.
We've talked about this before.
This used to be a dailynightly headline on tv, on the news.
They talked about it everysingle night.
They stopped doing it years ago.
Years ago they stopped talkingabout it.
Six trillion.
Can you imagine?
I mean, you think about it,you know, I know people right now

(42:46):
that they owe $300,000 ontheir home and they got 65, $70,000
in credit card debt andthey're sitting there wringing their
hands going, how am I going topay this off?
How are you going to, how'sour country going to pay off?
$36 trillion.
That's per citizen debt.

(43:06):
Per citizen.
Yep.
107,000 per human being in theUnited States, who's a citizen.
I guess we could try to, hey,let's try to spread that out to the,
those who are not here legally.
But we'll just subsidize it.
Debt per taxpayer.
Because you got kids thataren't taxpayers yet.
$323,000.

(43:27):
Wow.
U.S.
federal spending is $7 trillion.
U.S.
federal budget deficit, whichis 2 trillion.
That's.
That right there makes thatother number go up all the time.
So, so that, so that's in herepsychology of all of this.

(43:51):
We're talking about earlier.
The, the, the dependencythat's been created over all this
time.
What is it when, when, whenthere's adversity, when we as human
beings experience adversityand we don't have somebody coming
in to swoop under.
I mean, I'm all for, like whena, you know, hurricane.

(44:13):
I mean, that's.
We're fortunate in that we do.
Well, we really don't have themoney, but we do allocate some of
that.
We're basically spending $2trillion more than we actually get
in, but there is money coming in.
So we, we do allocate foremergency situations.
And I think those are the extremes.
That's why also we haveinsurance and things for those, you

(44:37):
know, but what has happenedis, is that when we come in, when,
when somebody comes in, everysingle time you run into a problem,
you don't learn how to fix the problem.
You just continue to expectthat money, that, that knight in
shining armor to come backover, over and over.
Right.
You don't make any effort tomake it better or to try to prevent

(45:00):
it because adversity is just apart of life.
And I think you can, I'm quitesure that you can say that you feel
comfortable that yes, I've hadmy issues and challenges through
my life or through your life,but that you also understand there
are people who really have it bad.

(45:21):
Oh yeah.
Whether even in our owncountry and even worse in some other
countries.
And so we're thankful forwhere we're at.
And I think it's all in thehalf full, half empty thing.
You are either, you either gotnegative things about every life
that you live and whatever.
And understandably, somepeople just, they, they've experienced
things in life that are terrible.

(45:42):
And, and I think most peopleunderstand where they're coming from
if you hear a particular story.
But, but in general though,we, most of us don't experience those
things on a day to day oryearly or annual regular basis.
And we pick.
But there's enough people whodon't do that sort of thing.
They've been taughtdifferently, they've had bad circumstances,

(46:04):
they've had and all of that.
But you own, you need to ownyour feelings, you need to own your
life and not you're giving itup to somebody else.
Well, and it goes back to thatword, dependency.
And you've got electedofficials that thrive and get reelected
upon the premise that youcan't do it without them.

(46:27):
You've got to have them.
They're the only ones thathave the answers and you've got to
rely on them.
We've got to stop every singletime we see something in our society
that we think, no matter whatit is, that we think is wrong.
We have got to stop turning tothe government and going, hey government,
you need to do something about it.
That's got to stop.
We've got to cut the dependency.
And I think rooting out all ofthis wasteful spending is one of

(46:50):
the ways in which we canfinally put an end to that.
Real quick here before we wrap up.
Al Sharpton, it's beingreported, had led a buy in to Costco
by giving 100 people $25 gift certificates.
Oh, okay, yeah, I get it.
He's supporting, so he'sgiving them $25.

(47:13):
By giving a Bunch of people.
Okay, you know, what do youget for 25 bucks at Costco?
You get a case of macaroni or something.
But anyway, a lot of hot dogs.
Yeah.
A lot of hot pizza.
Yeah, yeah.
$1.35 slices of pizza.
But anyway, all of thispresumably because they're still
supporting DEI programs and.

(47:35):
But you know what?
I have no issue with aparticular company doing what.
Now as long as, I guess whereI do cross the line on that is okay,
when you hire people do itbecause it's the best person qualified.
But now they think, somecompanies think that the best person
for a position may have a certain.

(47:59):
And you know, if, what if your whole.
What if your population, yourprimary customer is a particular
race?
Would.
Don't you think?
I mean, one thing says that ifyou had a bunch of white folks, let's
say, let's say it's a companythat makes a product that a lot of
African Americans really enjoyand that's what their thing is.

(48:22):
Well, if you had a choice ofsome white dude who's got this experience,
but other experiences thisother person has as black and they
are more in tune to that, Idon't know that I would have a problem
with that.
If you've got more experienceand you.
Understand your market, ifyou're hiring somebody because they
bring something to the tablethat is unique to your industry and

(48:47):
they bring a perspective andan understanding to your industry
that benefits you as acompany, whatever that may be, okay,
that's who you hire.
You should be hiring strictlyon qualifications, experience, maybe
education.
Although I will, I will argueall day long that lengthy experience

(49:08):
trumps education anytime.
Well, yeah, yeah, of course,to be an attorney you gotta have
a.
Well, yeah, okay, you have alaw degree.
But in most situations, theperson who comes to the table with
10 or 15 years of experiencein a particular field that benefits
your company is probably ofgreater benefit to you than someone

(49:33):
who just stepped out of acollege classroom at 22 years old
with a four year degree.
They haven't had anopportunity to put that degree into
practice yet.
They don't have thatexperience under their belt.
And anybody who spent any timeat all getting an education knows
about 90% of what you learn ina classroom turns out not to really

(49:56):
apply out here in the realworld anyway.
There's a lot of things out here.
There's so many variables.
You take your industry andtechnology, a hundred different variables
a day can affect everythingyou do in this store, everything
you do in this company, ahundred different variables a day.
And they can change like that.
Oh yeah.

(50:17):
And you, and you better beable to pivot with the changes better.
And the experience thatsomeone brings to that element, that's
what usually makes the difference.
And whether you get, whetheryou're able to adjust quickly and
accordingly or not.
And I will say that anemployee who is capable of dealing

(50:40):
with change and that's what'shappening right now is that I think
I don't know what thepercentage is in the federal government
as far as employees are concerned.
And but this also applies injust in large companies anyway when
there's a shake up.
That's why you hear so muchcriticism of a big company cutting
10% of their workforce.

(51:01):
They need to survive and youknow they're going to do what's best
for the.
Exactly.
And the tactics and how theydo it and they're following the law
and all that kind of stuff.
Yeah, okay, get it.
But just flexibility.
An employee, if all you are isa one trick pony and that's all you're
gonna do.
I'm looking people who aremore flexible is what I'm likely

(51:24):
to be more in tune to now.
And to keep you maybe on that,you know, if I have to make a decision
on who's gonna stay, I'm gonnalook at who's flexible, who's willing
to take the time to learn alittle bit more than what they have
to look at here.
So that's what we've got hereis this shakeup.
This is a shakeup.
This is major change.
This is disruption.
That Doge is a disruption andthat's good in this case.

(51:49):
And yes, we may short term, Ithink even Trump talked about this
the other day says yes, theremay be some pain for some people
through this process, but allof this money, the $6 trillion within
the first couple of years thatwe spent, I think it was like four
to six trillion dollars after,you know, midst of.

(52:10):
And after Covid.
Where did all that money go?
You know where it went.
You know where it went.
It went to, to Amazon, it wentto Lowe's, Home Depot.
And, and you can start layingout a lot of other companies that
benefited from this.
Yes, they did.
And, and then we so, so don't so.

(52:32):
And but every bit of thatmoney was money we did not have.
And so what.
So we've, so we've given this$107,000 per citizen is in the pockets.
A great amount of that.
A small percentage compared tothe overall debt, but a small percentage.

(52:53):
The 6 trillion over the 30we're looking at $6 trillion here
out of 36 trillion is in thepocket of Amazon and all of those
bigger companies right nowagain through the process of free
enterprise.
But money was injected intothe economy that did, we did not
have.
Which is partly of course whywe have the high prices and that.

(53:14):
Well, and again the governmentcreates inflation.
You and I don't create inflation.
Industry doesn't create inflation.
The government createsinflation policy.
And bad policy at that is whathas led us to where we are.
Right.
Of course we're not economiceconomists, but I would, I think
that is absolutely right.
There's got to be a largepercentage of what we see as inflation

(53:36):
is, is definitely that.
And then, but the, there'sother things.
It's the market forces, youknow, nothing.
If the chickens, yeah, we're,we're sick and we have to destroy
a lot of chickens, then that'sthe market because of just a bad
situation.
Now should the government comein and subsidize the chicken?
No question.
No they shouldn't.
But that's, but that will,that's probably.

(53:57):
But get out of the way andquit making policies that make it
more difficult to be thechicken farmer.
Yeah, well, but the chickenfarmer and all the farming is getting
consolidated just like a lotof other industries.
And that's the thing.
So we've, we've, you've takenAmazon and we've also made it harder.
This is a whole nother show.
But, but just economicallywhat's happened is we've, we've spent

(54:21):
all this money and we've madeAmazon stronger because they're,
because of the automations andthe ease of use.
And then what happens is thatthe local mom and pops or even the
local stores, even nationally,they have to cut back.
And so then they have.
Their, their people are not as good.
Right.
And so, so then we don't wantto go there anymore.

(54:42):
So we go to Amazon.
Well, and I, you know, ofcourse you sit here all day long.
Robert Porter.
Yeah, sorry.
And argue about the impactthat all of this had and the good
and the bad.
But I'll tell you this, at theend of the day, we cannot ever allow

(55:02):
what happened in 2020 to everhappen again.
It can never be allowed tohappen again.
We tanked the world economy,you know, and as Terry said, we're
not experts, we're not economists.
But I did say at a Motel 6once, so there's that.
So.
Well, we gotta wrap it, wegotta wrap it up.

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