February 12, 2025 • 17 mins
Embracing lifelong learning is crucial for personal growth. The discussions explore how to overcome resistance to change, the deep emotional aspects of learning, and the importance of stepping out of comfort zones for enriching experiences.
• The struggle against comfort zones
• The psychological implications of hardening with age
• The value of social circles and new friendships
• Lifelong learning: a necessity, not a luxury
• Embracing emotions to enrich life experiences
• Techniques for stepping out of comfort zones
• The importance of maintaining curiosity at any age
• How learning evolves with age
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
getting stuck in your ways and just repeating the
same things again and again andrefusing to do anything new.
I mean, how many of us canrelate to that?
Yeah, it's like, in a way, wesort of like, instead of being
soft and flexible to new ideasin our life, we kind of like
harden, we do yeah, and wedecide that we don't.
(00:23):
We know everything and we don'twant to learn exactly and like
we've done everything.
We've been there, done that.
You know, I'm not, I'm notbeing flexible and I'm just
stuck in my ways and, like a, anold dog can't learn new tricks,
yeah, and this kind of um, itsort of creeps up on us as we
(00:44):
grow older.
But you know, I think it'ssomething that we all have to be
a little bit aware of and wecan take steps to change it.
Yeah, I think we need to takesteps to change it and we need
to fight it actively.
Exactly so that's what reallyon with on it.
Yes, really, I'm gonna go forit, I'm gonna this.
I'm not letting you believethat I'm an old dog Exactly,
(01:08):
exactly.
So let's, that's what thisepisode is about.
You know, teaching an old dognew tricks is possible.
So welcome to Get Real with theEnglish Sisters.
Please do send us a textmessage and you can see, see
where to, directly under thepodcast, wherever you listen.
Or leave us a comment onYouTube, because this video
(01:30):
there's also a video version ofthis where you can see us, oh,
learning new tricks.
I mean, it can be just so easyto go about your old ways
because you, I think the pathknown is what, what's that
saying?
You know, the path taken isabout well trodden, it is the
safest kind of thing, you know,and we do always want to go to
(01:53):
safety, we want familiarity, welook for safe paths.
That we've all taken and we allknow we don't want change in
general.
Change is scary, change isscary.
Yeah, I don't know.
But then you know, you can sortof like, you know sometimes to
harden like a tortoise, a turtle, a turtle, you know, I was
(02:16):
thinking of their shells.
You know they harden as theyage and that makes them super
safe and they live forever, sortof thing.
But sometimes for us, as we age, to harden is not necessarily a
good thing.
But you see, some of those,those little sea creatures I
don't know which ones they arespecifically.
Yeah, I don't know which onesthey are specifically yeah, I
don't know, I'm thinking of thesea now, but you know that they
(02:38):
change their shells, don't they?
Yes, they look for differentones.
Homes, yeah, yeah, they lookfor different homes.
That's it.
I think we have to be a littlebit more like them, you know, in
our lives, and more flexible.
Exactly, we have okay, we'vetaken one path and we know where
that's going to take us to.
But also, allowing, you know,new opportunities to enter our
(03:03):
lives can be really importantfor our mental health.
Yeah, I'm just thinking aboutfriends group.
How many friends groups are sostuck?
And then I remember when weused to have a friend group,
they would never want anyone newto join.
Oh my God, that's so classical.
Don't bring them.
No, don't bring them.
Yeah, because you had that groupand you knew what you were
going to talk about.
You knew more or less thelaughs you were going to have,
(03:24):
exactly who you were going tohang out with, and it was like
stress-free, it was disruptive.
To bring a new person, a newelement in yeah, who are they?
Then you have to sort of likesocialise again.
You have to make small talk,don't you?
Well, not really, but you haveto talk to the person, you're
not going to make them feel asif they're really left out,
(03:44):
exactly, and they would alwayssay, no, don't bring them.
That's why it's always hard toenter an old group.
Yeah, that's why it's not good,is it?
No, no good, and that's, andthat's how, how it becomes more
difficult and how people feelmore and more lonely.
I think because you get used toalways hanging out with the same
people and then, if you hangout with new people, it becomes
a big.
(04:04):
At first it's a real effort andI think you have to like remind
yourself that making friends isis an effort.
You do have to put effort.
You have to go through somepain and some discomfort and
some boredom.
It's not always easy and youknow they can turn you down and
say, oh no, and they can.
They can flake on you so I'mnot available that day and you
might think, oh, they don'treally want to hang out with me.
(04:26):
But I think you have to insista bit.
You do have to insist.
You have to remember that.
You know allowing new thingsinto your life is really really,
really important, becauseotherwise you just harden, you
become set in your ways, as theysay, and I do not believe that
is a good thing to become set inyour ways.
(04:48):
It's definitely that you canalways learn.
It's like you know that, oh,I'm too old to learn that, I'm
too old to do that.
I've done that, been there,what?
What are you doing then?
Yeah, you know life iscontinuously allowing us to
learn, isn't it?
It should be consideredlifelong learning, where we
consider that we're alwayslearning.
(05:08):
Whether it's we can learn fromanything from, from anybody,
from a child, you can learn.
You can learn from anything,from anybody, from a child, you
can learn.
You can learn loads from achild To be in the moment for a
start, from pets, to be in themoment to enjoy the moments of
joy.
You can learn so much.
And when you harden it, youknow.
It's yeah, and I really don'tbuy into this thing that when
(05:32):
you're older, like you can'tlearn new things.
I feel as if I can learn morenow than I used to be able to
learn.
Paradoxically, I do, too, as ifmy brain is like, more
developed, exactly as if I'vegot like more, like already,
like I've got already skillsthat I've already learned that I
can adapt and use them for newlearning.
Yes, yes, yes, whereas when Iwas younger it was all new and
(05:53):
it was really hard and it wasoverwhelming.
It was all overwhelming, butnow you can think, oh well, I've
done that, so now this?
Yeah, well, we're having a bitof a laugh.
You can think you know, I'mgoing to go back to college, or
to school or back to university,I'm going to study, or just by
yourself, yourself, you canstudy.
You know, there's so manyopportunities to, to learn new
(06:16):
skills and do new things.
Yeah, it's just like allowing,even if it's not actual learning
in the academic sense.
It's learning like, yes, you've, I've never.
Somebody says you want to comebowling, for example?
I don't know, yeah, and you say, oh, I don't do that, I've
never done that before.
Ah, that's what it was.
My um, my son's girlfriend, wassaying that she went to bowling
(06:40):
with all their group of friendsand all the girls there were
saying, oh no, we've never donethis before.
And they were all just like,folded their arms and just
started chatting amongstthemselves.
And she said I found that soboring because I actually wanted
to play exactly.
And I said, if you'd played,then maybe they would have
followed.
And it's not just a like aboy's thing it's.
(07:03):
It's everybody, of course not.
Well, I don't know why.
Apparently they were likethey'll never done this before
and they didn't bother, sort ofthing.
And they're really young.
Yeah, we're talking about 20.
Yes, it's not just old peoplethat you know.
The older you get, the lessit's like I've never done that,
so sort of can't be bothered,and yeah, it's a bit sad really.
(07:25):
I mean, it's not just bowling,I'm just about anything.
You've never tried a newculinary experience.
No, I'm not going there.
Oh no, you know, we'll try it.
See what it's like.
Have fun and don't be fearful,because sometimes you think I'm
not going there because I mightget food poisoning.
Oh my god, yeah, that's extreme, like going, say, to a
(07:46):
different continent or something.
Oh, yes, you might think,allowing yourself to travel,
allowing yourself to travel andexperience new things.
You might say, oh no, becauseeveryone that goes there gets
travel sickness and I'm notgoing to go.
But no, because you harden.
That way you harden, you mayget travel sickness, but you see
a doctor and then afterwardsyou know you've had this
(08:07):
experience that you'll probablynever experience again.
Yeah, they're really importantto do these things.
I mean I'm personally, uh, youknow, I think I think about
things like that one becausewe've had bad experiences in the
past and I do think aboutthings like that.
But then I think, no, I'm gonnafight.
You have to like, fight it,don't you going to experience
this new culture, this new thing?
(08:29):
Because you have to go againstyour natural instinct, which is
to stick with the familiar.
I don't think many people talkabout this.
No, it's important.
Because they don't say you haveto actually fight it.
You have to go against yournatural instinct.
Yeah, go against it.
That's a thing.
Because you think, no, I can'tbe bothered, who cares?
Why do I have to do that?
(08:57):
Listen, if the opportunityarises and one of your groups or
or you suddenly see a specialoffer or something, say to go on
this journey, I say, go for it,take the necessary precautions,
make sure you're okay and allthe health and everything, but
then allow yourself toexperience something new,
because it's gonna really affectyou and your life and it will
make you like broaden and bemore flexible.
(09:18):
You'll learn new things, you'llfeel, you'll probably make new
friends, you'll see differentthings.
It's just a whole world outthere that's full of new things
for us to try and I think all ofus have these little thoughts
that come into our minds often.
You know, I wish I'd done thator I could do that, and then
(09:40):
it's no, I can't, no, I can't,it's too hard, and you go
against yourself and you you'realways like convincing yourself
you might have this glimmer ofsomething new.
Exactly I like oh, my, oh.
I like see what they're doing,but no, it's not for me.
No, just fight it and say fightit, yeah, it would be for me.
(10:00):
I don't know if it's for me.
I'm gonna try it and see.
If it's for me, i'll'll give ita go, give it a go.
Yeah, let's let go of that fearthat we all have and it's
natural to have against doingnew things.
But I think it's also the waywe're brought up, culturally as
well, because we're not broughtup to think it's lifelong
learning.
Because I remember before wedid all these studies with all
(10:23):
our hypnotherapy and ourcoaching and our life coaching.
You're absolutely right.
I these studies, with all ourhypnotherapy and our coaching
and our life coaching.
You're absolutely right.
I used to think that when youwere 30, you've had your
children.
40, you've had your kids moreor less.
You're settled.
You go on one or two holidays ayear and then that's it.
If you're lucky, lucky, yeah,finance.
Otherwise you go.
You know, you go, maybe, loki,you go on a few day trips or
whatever.
Exactly that's it.
Yeah, there's so much more tolife.
(10:44):
Just so that you can feelvibrant every day and look
forward and be excited aboutlife.
Yeah, because it's not normalnot to be excited exactly, but
what we all tend to think isthat it's normal to just think,
oh, boring, yeah, this is it.
This is it.
That's what life is like, youknow, especially when you get to
a certain age.
(11:04):
That's it.
It's not really.
That's not natural.
No, it's natural.
To be excited, like a child is,about this beautiful world
we're living and the beautifuluniverse that there is, and this
, and the seasons, and and, andand and.
To really get excited likelittle explorers in life yes,
explorers, that's really cute.
(11:26):
Yeah, and to to allow yourselfto feel emotion as well, because
when I say harden in life, Imean also sometimes you can,
yeah, emotionally harden as well, because you say I've done that
, I've been, I do not want to gothrough that.
My heart cannot take any more,you know.
And so you harden and you closebecause you know, unfortunately
(11:49):
, loved people.
You know, people we love maypass away, they may leave us,
and you tend to harden, don'tyou?
I remember now that sometimeswhen I watch a film and I'm
watching my daughter, who's 30,and I see she cries, yeah, and
you don't cry.
I don't cry.
I mean, sometimes I do, butmost I don't cry because I have
hardened, you've hardened, and Ithink, no, I don't want to go
(12:10):
there, I'm not gonna go there.
In that film, you don't allowyourself to become emotional.
Allow myself, but maybe what ifI did allow myself?
Obviously you enjoy the film alot more.
Well, you're like full of Ialways cry, I mean you're,
you're like fully immersed inthe film, yeah, but as soon as I
see it's about to cry, I think,no, I'm not going to, oh, can't
handle that, can't be bothered.
(12:31):
Yeah, feeling that I think lifeis short.
After fun, you do have to Imean you don't have to have fun
feelings.
I think it's important to feelemotion as well, even if it's
like you might consider itnegative because you're crying.
I mean, like me, if I see thefull moon, I will go out there,
(12:52):
even on my own, and I know yousay I'm obsessed with this full
moon thing, but I'll go outthere and I'll enjoy it just on
my own and just think, wow, youknow, this where we're living is
so amazingly beautiful and andI, I love that.
But you know, I I don't want toallow myself to think, oh, yeah
, it's just another full moon,and just harden and not.
(13:13):
I've seen that before.
This is the sunset, yeah, cool.
The other day about about howthe, how everything was invented
writing and like how theyassociated words to sounds and
that's how the first writingcame about and all that.
That's amazing.
I was thinking how amazing itwas.
And then how the first loomthey created the first loom with
(13:34):
little pattern, little holes tolike embroider fabrics, to make
silks and things with patternson them.
Wow, which was like theprecursor to computers now,
because really, oh my gosh, ofcourse you know, the first
computers had those little punchcards they did.
Yeah, when we were little weused to see them.
Yeah, we used to play with them, yeah, and I was thinking how
(13:56):
amazing.
And then the guy that invented Ithink it was the atom that no
one took him seriously and inthe end he died by suicide, the
poor man, because he was neveracknowledged for his work that
he actually, you know, he, he,he realized that he realized
atoms, yeah, and no one.
So I was just thinking, I mean,the world and life is so
(14:19):
amazing that we, you, could grabit by the horn.
Yeah, you'd always be in astate of wonderment, but you
can't't.
What happens is that we lightit hard and we don't, we sort of
can't.
We take things for granted.
Yeah, maybe you take them, youcan't sort of be bothered.
Of course you do take thingsfor granted, because otherwise
you'd be overwhelmed all thetime, like you'd see something
(14:39):
and think, oh my God, that'sgorgeous, that's so.
You know, you just sort of like, sort of normal people don't do
that.
So you have to like, you haveto say, okay, you know, unless
you're like high on somesubstance, you don't normally
just sort of marvel at thewonderment of things, the
(15:00):
wonderment exactly.
But yet there is a wondermentin everything and and and.
If we remember that, I think youknow we can sort of well, I
mean, how wonderful is this thatwe're just doing a podcast and
we're just talking here andvideoing it and it's going out
there with on this documentary?
They were talking about thefirst telephone, not the
telephone, the first telegraphs,morse code, how they invented.
(15:23):
I mean, we've come such a longway as human beings and we, we
crave connection so much and yetwe're so lonely now.
So I think this all forms partof it.
To go back to it all forms partof the fact that I think we are
lonely as well because we doget stuck in our ways and we
don't open ourselves up to newexperiences and new people.
(15:45):
Yeah, that's so true.
We do not.
No, we harden.
And so, you know, let's stay,let's stay, let's stay flexible
in mind and spirit, in mind andbody too.
Because body, yeah, mind,spirit and body, and let's
remember that.
You know, even though you maybe an old dog, you can learn new
(16:08):
tricks and sure as hell you canflexible.
But I'm doing some, someexercises.
I'm not flexible either.
It's making me more flexible.
There you go, yeah, and I willnot be conditioned by the fact
that you cannot do this at acertain age and we have to fight
against this.
I think we have to remember it,become aware of it, no matter
what age we are, you know, 20,30, 50, 60, whatever it is and
(16:33):
remember that we must, you know,go against our natural comfort.
You know sometimes and andallow for.
You know you don't have tobecome overwhelmed, always doing
new things, new things.
Stay in your comfort zone, butthen also remember that to, to
allow yourself to grow, you haveto step out.
(16:56):
Step out and enjoy, yes, andinto your own mind as well and
enjoy.
Enjoy the the fun, the funthings in life.
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getting stuck in your ways and just repeating the
same things again and again andrefusing to do anything new.
I mean, how many of us canrelate to that?
Yeah, it's like, in a way, wesort of like, instead of being
soft and flexible to new ideasin our life, we kind of like
harden, we do yeah, and wedecide that we don't.
(00:23):
We know everything and we don'twant to learn exactly and like
we've done everything.
We've been there, done that.
You know, I'm not, I'm notbeing flexible and I'm just
stuck in my ways and, like a, anold dog can't learn new tricks,
yeah, and this kind of um, itsort of creeps up on us as we
(00:44):
grow older.
But you know, I think it'ssomething that we all have to be
a little bit aware of and wecan take steps to change it.
Yeah, I think we need to takesteps to change it and we need
to fight it actively.
Exactly so that's what reallyon with on it.
Yes, really, I'm gonna go forit, I'm gonna this.
I'm not letting you believethat I'm an old dog Exactly,
(01:08):
exactly.
So let's, that's what thisepisode is about.
You know, teaching an old dognew tricks is possible.
So welcome to Get Real with theEnglish Sisters.
Please do send us a textmessage and you can see, see
where to, directly under thepodcast, wherever you listen.
Or leave us a comment onYouTube, because this video
(01:30):
there's also a video version ofthis where you can see us, oh,
learning new tricks.
I mean, it can be just so easyto go about your old ways
because you, I think the pathknown is what, what's that
saying?
You know, the path taken isabout well trodden, it is the
safest kind of thing, you know,and we do always want to go to
(01:53):
safety, we want familiarity, welook for safe paths.
That we've all taken and we allknow we don't want change in
general.
Change is scary, change isscary.
Yeah, I don't know.
But then you know, you can sortof like, you know sometimes to
harden like a tortoise, a turtle, a turtle, you know, I was
(02:16):
thinking of their shells.
You know they harden as theyage and that makes them super
safe and they live forever, sortof thing.
But sometimes for us, as we age, to harden is not necessarily a
good thing.
But you see, some of those,those little sea creatures I
don't know which ones they arespecifically.
Yeah, I don't know which onesthey are specifically yeah, I
don't know, I'm thinking of thesea now, but you know that they
(02:38):
change their shells, don't they?
Yes, they look for differentones.
Homes, yeah, yeah, they lookfor different homes.
That's it.
I think we have to be a littlebit more like them, you know, in
our lives, and more flexible.
Exactly, we have okay, we'vetaken one path and we know where
that's going to take us to.
But also, allowing, you know,new opportunities to enter our
(03:03):
lives can be really importantfor our mental health.
Yeah, I'm just thinking aboutfriends group.
How many friends groups are sostuck?
And then I remember when weused to have a friend group,
they would never want anyone newto join.
Oh my God, that's so classical.
Don't bring them.
No, don't bring them.
Yeah, because you had that groupand you knew what you were
going to talk about.
You knew more or less thelaughs you were going to have,
(03:24):
exactly who you were going tohang out with, and it was like
stress-free, it was disruptive.
To bring a new person, a newelement in yeah, who are they?
Then you have to sort of likesocialise again.
You have to make small talk,don't you?
Well, not really, but you haveto talk to the person, you're
not going to make them feel asif they're really left out,
(03:44):
exactly, and they would alwayssay, no, don't bring them.
That's why it's always hard toenter an old group.
Yeah, that's why it's not good,is it?
No, no good, and that's, andthat's how, how it becomes more
difficult and how people feelmore and more lonely.
I think because you get used toalways hanging out with the same
people and then, if you hangout with new people, it becomes
a big.
(04:04):
At first it's a real effort andI think you have to like remind
yourself that making friends isis an effort.
You do have to put effort.
You have to go through somepain and some discomfort and
some boredom.
It's not always easy and youknow they can turn you down and
say, oh no, and they can.
They can flake on you so I'mnot available that day and you
might think, oh, they don'treally want to hang out with me.
(04:26):
But I think you have to insista bit.
You do have to insist.
You have to remember that.
You know allowing new thingsinto your life is really really,
really important, becauseotherwise you just harden, you
become set in your ways, as theysay, and I do not believe that
is a good thing to become set inyour ways.
(04:48):
It's definitely that you canalways learn.
It's like you know that, oh,I'm too old to learn that, I'm
too old to do that.
I've done that, been there,what?
What are you doing then?
Yeah, you know life iscontinuously allowing us to
learn, isn't it?
It should be consideredlifelong learning, where we
consider that we're alwayslearning.
(05:08):
Whether it's we can learn fromanything from, from anybody,
from a child, you can learn.
You can learn from anything,from anybody, from a child, you
can learn.
You can learn loads from achild To be in the moment for a
start, from pets, to be in themoment to enjoy the moments of
joy.
You can learn so much.
And when you harden it, youknow.
It's yeah, and I really don'tbuy into this thing that when
(05:32):
you're older, like you can'tlearn new things.
I feel as if I can learn morenow than I used to be able to
learn.
Paradoxically, I do, too, as ifmy brain is like, more
developed, exactly as if I'vegot like more, like already,
like I've got already skillsthat I've already learned that I
can adapt and use them for newlearning.
Yes, yes, yes, whereas when Iwas younger it was all new and
(05:53):
it was really hard and it wasoverwhelming.
It was all overwhelming, butnow you can think, oh well, I've
done that, so now this?
Yeah, well, we're having a bitof a laugh.
You can think you know, I'mgoing to go back to college, or
to school or back to university,I'm going to study, or just by
yourself, yourself, you canstudy.
You know, there's so manyopportunities to, to learn new
(06:16):
skills and do new things.
Yeah, it's just like allowing,even if it's not actual learning
in the academic sense.
It's learning like, yes, you've, I've never.
Somebody says you want to comebowling, for example?
I don't know, yeah, and you say, oh, I don't do that, I've
never done that before.
Ah, that's what it was.
My um, my son's girlfriend, wassaying that she went to bowling
(06:40):
with all their group of friendsand all the girls there were
saying, oh no, we've never donethis before.
And they were all just like,folded their arms and just
started chatting amongstthemselves.
And she said I found that soboring because I actually wanted
to play exactly.
And I said, if you'd played,then maybe they would have
followed.
And it's not just a like aboy's thing it's.
(07:03):
It's everybody, of course not.
Well, I don't know why.
Apparently they were likethey'll never done this before
and they didn't bother, sort ofthing.
And they're really young.
Yeah, we're talking about 20.
Yes, it's not just old peoplethat you know.
The older you get, the lessit's like I've never done that,
so sort of can't be bothered,and yeah, it's a bit sad really.
(07:25):
I mean, it's not just bowling,I'm just about anything.
You've never tried a newculinary experience.
No, I'm not going there.
Oh no, you know, we'll try it.
See what it's like.
Have fun and don't be fearful,because sometimes you think I'm
not going there because I mightget food poisoning.
Oh my god, yeah, that's extreme, like going, say, to a
(07:46):
different continent or something.
Oh, yes, you might think,allowing yourself to travel,
allowing yourself to travel andexperience new things.
You might say, oh no, becauseeveryone that goes there gets
travel sickness and I'm notgoing to go.
But no, because you harden.
That way you harden, you mayget travel sickness, but you see
a doctor and then afterwardsyou know you've had this
(08:07):
experience that you'll probablynever experience again.
Yeah, they're really importantto do these things.
I mean I'm personally, uh, youknow, I think I think about
things like that one becausewe've had bad experiences in the
past and I do think aboutthings like that.
But then I think, no, I'm gonnafight.
You have to like, fight it,don't you going to experience
this new culture, this new thing?
(08:29):
Because you have to go againstyour natural instinct, which is
to stick with the familiar.
I don't think many people talkabout this.
No, it's important.
Because they don't say you haveto actually fight it.
You have to go against yournatural instinct.
Yeah, go against it.
That's a thing.
Because you think, no, I can'tbe bothered, who cares?
Why do I have to do that?
(08:57):
Listen, if the opportunityarises and one of your groups or
or you suddenly see a specialoffer or something, say to go on
this journey, I say, go for it,take the necessary precautions,
make sure you're okay and allthe health and everything, but
then allow yourself toexperience something new,
because it's gonna really affectyou and your life and it will
make you like broaden and bemore flexible.
(09:18):
You'll learn new things, you'llfeel, you'll probably make new
friends, you'll see differentthings.
It's just a whole world outthere that's full of new things
for us to try and I think all ofus have these little thoughts
that come into our minds often.
You know, I wish I'd done thator I could do that, and then
(09:40):
it's no, I can't, no, I can't,it's too hard, and you go
against yourself and you you'realways like convincing yourself
you might have this glimmer ofsomething new.
Exactly I like oh, my, oh.
I like see what they're doing,but no, it's not for me.
No, just fight it and say fightit, yeah, it would be for me.
(10:00):
I don't know if it's for me.
I'm gonna try it and see.
If it's for me, i'll'll give ita go, give it a go.
Yeah, let's let go of that fearthat we all have and it's
natural to have against doingnew things.
But I think it's also the waywe're brought up, culturally as
well, because we're not broughtup to think it's lifelong
learning.
Because I remember before wedid all these studies with all
(10:23):
our hypnotherapy and ourcoaching and our life coaching.
You're absolutely right.
I these studies, with all ourhypnotherapy and our coaching
and our life coaching.
You're absolutely right.
I used to think that when youwere 30, you've had your
children.
40, you've had your kids moreor less.
You're settled.
You go on one or two holidays ayear and then that's it.
If you're lucky, lucky, yeah,finance.
Otherwise you go.
You know, you go, maybe, loki,you go on a few day trips or
whatever.
Exactly that's it.
Yeah, there's so much more tolife.
(10:44):
Just so that you can feelvibrant every day and look
forward and be excited aboutlife.
Yeah, because it's not normalnot to be excited exactly, but
what we all tend to think isthat it's normal to just think,
oh, boring, yeah, this is it.
This is it.
That's what life is like, youknow, especially when you get to
a certain age.
(11:04):
That's it.
It's not really.
That's not natural.
No, it's natural.
To be excited, like a child is,about this beautiful world
we're living and the beautifuluniverse that there is, and this
, and the seasons, and and, andand and.
To really get excited likelittle explorers in life yes,
explorers, that's really cute.
(11:26):
Yeah, and to to allow yourselfto feel emotion as well, because
when I say harden in life, Imean also sometimes you can,
yeah, emotionally harden as well, because you say I've done that
, I've been, I do not want to gothrough that.
My heart cannot take any more,you know.
And so you harden and you closebecause you know, unfortunately
(11:49):
, loved people.
You know, people we love maypass away, they may leave us,
and you tend to harden, don'tyou?
I remember now that sometimeswhen I watch a film and I'm
watching my daughter, who's 30,and I see she cries, yeah, and
you don't cry.
I don't cry.
I mean, sometimes I do, butmost I don't cry because I have
hardened, you've hardened, and Ithink, no, I don't want to go
(12:10):
there, I'm not gonna go there.
In that film, you don't allowyourself to become emotional.
Allow myself, but maybe what ifI did allow myself?
Obviously you enjoy the film alot more.
Well, you're like full of Ialways cry, I mean you're,
you're like fully immersed inthe film, yeah, but as soon as I
see it's about to cry, I think,no, I'm not going to, oh, can't
handle that, can't be bothered.
(12:31):
Yeah, feeling that I think lifeis short.
After fun, you do have to Imean you don't have to have fun
feelings.
I think it's important to feelemotion as well, even if it's
like you might consider itnegative because you're crying.
I mean, like me, if I see thefull moon, I will go out there,
(12:52):
even on my own, and I know yousay I'm obsessed with this full
moon thing, but I'll go outthere and I'll enjoy it just on
my own and just think, wow, youknow, this where we're living is
so amazingly beautiful and andI, I love that.
But you know, I I don't want toallow myself to think, oh, yeah
, it's just another full moon,and just harden and not.
(13:13):
I've seen that before.
This is the sunset, yeah, cool.
The other day about about howthe, how everything was invented
writing and like how theyassociated words to sounds and
that's how the first writingcame about and all that.
That's amazing.
I was thinking how amazing itwas.
And then how the first loomthey created the first loom with
(13:34):
little pattern, little holes tolike embroider fabrics, to make
silks and things with patternson them.
Wow, which was like theprecursor to computers now,
because really, oh my gosh, ofcourse you know, the first
computers had those little punchcards they did.
Yeah, when we were little weused to see them.
Yeah, we used to play with them, yeah, and I was thinking how
(13:56):
amazing.
And then the guy that invented Ithink it was the atom that no
one took him seriously and inthe end he died by suicide, the
poor man, because he was neveracknowledged for his work that
he actually, you know, he, he,he realized that he realized
atoms, yeah, and no one.
So I was just thinking, I mean,the world and life is so
(14:19):
amazing that we, you, could grabit by the horn.
Yeah, you'd always be in astate of wonderment, but you
can't't.
What happens is that we lightit hard and we don't, we sort of
can't.
We take things for granted.
Yeah, maybe you take them, youcan't sort of be bothered.
Of course you do take thingsfor granted, because otherwise
you'd be overwhelmed all thetime, like you'd see something
(14:39):
and think, oh my God, that'sgorgeous, that's so.
You know, you just sort of like, sort of normal people don't do
that.
So you have to like, you haveto say, okay, you know, unless
you're like high on somesubstance, you don't normally
just sort of marvel at thewonderment of things, the
(15:00):
wonderment exactly.
But yet there is a wondermentin everything and and and.
If we remember that, I think youknow we can sort of well, I
mean, how wonderful is this thatwe're just doing a podcast and
we're just talking here andvideoing it and it's going out
there with on this documentary?
They were talking about thefirst telephone, not the
telephone, the first telegraphs,morse code, how they invented.
(15:23):
I mean, we've come such a longway as human beings and we, we
crave connection so much and yetwe're so lonely now.
So I think this all forms partof it.
To go back to it all forms partof the fact that I think we are
lonely as well because we doget stuck in our ways and we
don't open ourselves up to newexperiences and new people.
(15:45):
Yeah, that's so true.
We do not.
No, we harden.
And so, you know, let's stay,let's stay, let's stay flexible
in mind and spirit, in mind andbody too.
Because body, yeah, mind,spirit and body, and let's
remember that.
You know, even though you maybe an old dog, you can learn new
(16:08):
tricks and sure as hell you canflexible.
But I'm doing some, someexercises.
I'm not flexible either.
It's making me more flexible.
There you go, yeah, and I willnot be conditioned by the fact
that you cannot do this at acertain age and we have to fight
against this.
I think we have to remember it,become aware of it, no matter
what age we are, you know, 20,30, 50, 60, whatever it is and
(16:33):
remember that we must, you know,go against our natural comfort.
You know sometimes and andallow for.
You know you don't have tobecome overwhelmed, always doing
new things, new things.
Stay in your comfort zone, butthen also remember that to, to
allow yourself to grow, you haveto step out.
(16:56):
Step out and enjoy, yes, andinto your own mind as well and
enjoy.
Enjoy the the fun, the funthings in life.
Absolutely lots of love andsmiles from the english sisters.
Please leave us a message welove to hear from you bye, bye,
bye.
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