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staying calm when
you're feeling anxious or in
like in a situation where youreally need to be calm.
What's the secret to that, andwhy are some people so calm all
the time?
Yeah, well, other people youknow seem to really freak out
more.
And how?
How?
Perhaps to learn some of thatbehavior?
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Because it's very useful tohave yep.
So we're going to give you sometips on staying calm in this
week's episode of Get Real withthe English Sisters Mind, health
and anxiety.
Yes, yes, staying calm is a lotabout.
I think it's about centringyourself and being in yourself
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and not out in the world.
Going back to more mindfulness,it is about being in yourself,
but I think a lot of the times,in order to not freak out, it's
useful to look outside ofyourself.
Yes, so, because if you're inyour own mind and you're in a
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situation which you're going tofind really stressful you know
there are so many out there youknow there could be anything
really Health reasons, jobinterviews, oh, come on.
There are so many things thatmost people find rather
stressful and are going to causeus to to feel a certain amount
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of anxiety, and so in thosecases, sometimes it's best not
to be in your mind, isn't it?
How can you get out of yourmind?
Well, it's best not to be inyour mind if your mind is an
anxious mind.
But I think, in order to staycalm, you have to like, practice
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, like, have a practice of calm,like a practice of yoga.
You have to have a practice ofcalm every day.
So you have to be mindful everyday.
Yeah, so stay in the present,do not freak out, do not go 100,
you know 100 breaths ahead ofyourself, right?
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So you think it's more abreathing thing?
Yeah, sort of like, take a fewdeep breaths and be in that
moment, be in your own apresence, without having a
runaway mind.
Yeah, but how do you stop themind from running away?
And you have to practice, don'tyou?
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Yes, it's, it's a breathingpractice, it's listening to
meditation, it's a hypnotherapypractice.
It's been being in the present.
Yes, I mean, the reason why I'mlaughing is because I'm I.
I know that for us, that we've,we've, we've done this for so
many years it seems like it'seasy and it's more natural.
But if you think about it, youknow it's not that easy really.
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You know, it's easier said thandone is what I mean, but it's
not really.
It is actually just as easy, asit's said, as it's said, once
you know how to do it which islike remembering that you could
to stay in the moment and whatthat really does mean for
somebody.
What does that actually mean?
That stay in the moment, like if, say, if there's an, say, if
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you see a car crash and there'sa there's, there's, it's an
emergency, okay, and you're not,and you're not a first
responder.
If you start going in your ownmind and you start panicking and
thinking, oh, this could havebeen me.
Oh, my god, I hope they're okay, I hope they haven't got kids,
I hope that this, I hope that Ihope they're alive, and all of
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this, then you're gonna panic,whereas if you, you, you stay,
you take a deep breath and youstay in yourself and say, okay,
what do I, what do I have to do?
I have to call nine, you knowthe emergency service.
I have to go and see if I cando anything to help without
hurting the person and you justsay, okay, how am I going to
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deal with this?
Stay centered, stay calm, andyou go and do and take action.
Then you'll be okay.
But if you allow your mind torun away with itself.
You're going to start feelingpalpitations.
Yeah, you'll feel paralyzed.
Yes, yes, you'll get all thetypical anxiety responses, which
is exactly what you don't wantin those circumstances, and
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that's the kind of response youalso get in everyday life if you
, if you are anxious yeah,that's where panic attacks come
from, and you know this overthinking things and allowing
your mind to just go like runriot.
Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, you'reabsolutely right.
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Yeah, there is, there is atechnique, isn't it?
Yeah, that the it's.
It is a bit like like what youwere talking about first
responders.
They are actually trained toovercome situations of anxiety
and there's a whole traininginvolved to help these people,
to help them, save us, and theyhave to go through this kind of
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training.
We don't actually go through itin normal life.
We kind of do, because, if youthink about ever since you're
little, you do go throughsituations that can cause you a
lot of stress.
For example, I was thinkingabout myself only when I was
five years old.
I was called up to theheadmaster's office at school
because I was apparently beingnaughty or something.
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Yeah, and I remember waitingoutside that massive door you
know, I was tiny and andthinking, oh my gosh.
And I remember waiting outsidethat massive door.
You know I was tiny andthinking, oh my gosh.
And I remember feeling like forthe first time in my life, I
think, I felt like my heartbeating fast.
I remember that and I wasthinking, gosh, this is going to
be really scary.
You know the headmaster he'slike a big, scary person and and
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so what if you were tiny?
Because, because I was literallyfive years old and the teacher
was screaming at me and I, Iremember it was just because I
wasn't, wasn't good, I could notunderstand maths, and in those
days unfortunately it was aCatholic school they were
extremely strict and, um, I haddyslexia, which I didn't, that,
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nobody knew about in those days.
So, or dyspraxia, I can'tremember the one with the
numbers Dyscalculus, dyscalculus, and I couldn't, I couldn't,
the numbers wouldn't stay stilland anyway, so I was, obviously.
I remember hiding under thedesk and then being pulled out
and then taken to the headmasterand expecting, literally, I
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think you know we were hit inthose days.
You know it sounds terrible, itsounds terrible, but they would
give you the slipper, wouldn'tthey?
I think, yeah, it was like forgirls.
It was like this shoe that youwould get hit with.
And for boys, yeah, it was thisbig long stick, a bamboo stick
or something, a cane, a cane.
You were hit.
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So I remember thinking, gosh,I'm going to get hit now.
I mean that is horrifying, andthat was the first time I ever
felt my heart beating like that.
And then I do remember thinking,obviously, about my mum,
because I was five, and Iremember thinking, oh, my mum,
because I was five, and Iremember thinking, oh, my mum's
gonna help me.
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You know, somehow thinkingabout my mum, and I managed to
calm myself down so that when Iwent into the the office I
wasn't actually crying and in astate of, and I managed to
explain to him what had happened.
I said I was hiding under thedesk.
In the end he turned out to bea really nice guy.
I mean, he was a, he was assweet as ever.
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He said, okay, don't worryabout it, you know, tell me.
And he was actually really kindand surprisingly and um so, but
I mean I would see him manytimes after that.
He would just say, oh, hello,it's you again.
What did you do?
You know, unfortunately, I wasalways sent to him because you
had that abusive teacher?
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Yes, and and.
Because I just couldn'tunderstand the numbers, I
couldn't literally understandthem, so I was always being told
off and being bullied by thatteacher.
I remember I'd always seeoutside the classroom.
It was horrific.
Yeah, that was a horrible time.
Anyway, that's not what we'retalking about, no, but I think I
kind of learned a technique onmy own is like I like saw my
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mum's face self-soothe.
Yes, I managed to self-soothe.
So what I'm saying is now, asgrown-ups, what we can do is,
when we are feeling reallyanxious, we can also like take
the deep breaths, as what youwere saying, but also go to a
place where it is happier in ourminds, like a safe place, a
safe place.
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Some people can like imagineseeing a pet, their loved pets,
and they can imagine that.
Or you can see, you know,somebody else's face or hear
somebody's words that are goingto be reassuring.
I think our mom used to alwayssee her mom who'd who'd passed
away, yes, but she would getgreat comfort from that.
Yes, she would, yeah, so, yeah,exactly.
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So, you see, even though shewas no longer here, but she
would imagine her, like, yeah,she would have, she would have
her in her mind saying that shewas protecting her.
And and our mom always used tosay I remember also, like when I
was a child, going to thedentist, that was another way,
when I used to have to overcomemy fear of the injection,
because we used to be so scaredof injections and um, and mum
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would always say go to the beach, because that was obviously her
happy place.
You know, go to the beach.
When I was a kid I would thinkgo to the beach, you know, go to
the beach.
But somehow, with her wordstelling us she would describe it
Listen to the sound of thewaves, you're walking in the
water, you know there's the sunshining and I would think, look,
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I'm just about that would help.
So it's like this.
She was a bit like ahypnotherapy.
She would always do that withme.
I never used to reallyunderstand it.
I didn't understand it either,but it was obviously of great
comfort.
It's not like I thought, oh,mum is actually using some kind
of technique To tell you thetruth.
I think it was just so naturalto her that she just said I
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think of the beach.
Yeah, she'd go to a differentplace.
Yes, go to a different place.
So you're not actually in thedentist chair.
Now, go somewhere else, closeyour eyes.
She would say Close your eyes,because when you close your eyes
you can go to different places.
See, you can't like you'regoing before a meeting or
something where you're feelingreally anxious, but you can take
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the deep breaths and gosomewhere else.
Literally, you can also use notliterally, imagine, not
literally.
Stay that, figuratively,exactly.
You can also use your body,though, can't you?
You can use your physicality to.
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Yes, to like, like there's a,there's lots of studies on the
famous power pose.
Oh, yes, you know, you put yourhands or by the side.
You know, the wonder woman,yeah, the wonder woman.
Yeah, that'll actually embodycalmness in you and confidence.
You can also breathe.
Remember to breathe properly.
Yes, yes, absolutely.
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And you know, if you, if youfind that at the moment you
can't seem to think of somebodythat calms you down or some
place, a happy place, you canalso just literally start
focusing on something you cansee that's right, like right in
front of you in the room.
Yes, you know, you can focus ona dot on the wall, the crack on
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the wall.
You can focus on something thatwill get your mind out of that
place.
Yeah, that'll keep you in thepresent moment.
Keep you in the present moment.
See, feel what the chair feelslike if you're sitting down.
What do the surroundings looklike?
What are the curtains?
What do they look like?
What does the door look like?
You start focusing on otherthings the fabric of the person
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sitting next to you and,surprisingly, by putting so much
attention on something else,you can get your mind out of its
own place of anxiety.
It's a distraction, yes, it's adistraction technique, but that
does work in hypnotherapy aswell, doesn't it?
Definitely, definitely works,definitely works.
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So that's another way of youknow.
That's, that's a great.
That's a great way of you knowgetting immediately out of your
own.
Well, you have to, like, takecontrol of your mind, don't you?
You do?
Your mind is a little bit likea computer, so what you put in
will give you the result.
Yeah, you'll give the result.
So if you're putting runaway,anxious thoughts into your mind,
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you're going to.
Your body will respond likethat.
Whereas if you, if you're calm,if you, if you practice
practice like walking in theforest or in the countryside or
in a nice park or you know, youhave some kind of fitness
practice, you do yoga or running, you'll know what it's like to
be in that moment and feel thatcomforting feeling of just
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enjoying and like being in themoment of whatever you're doing.
And so you can, you can harnessthat feeling and take it with
you when you're in a in astressful, non-calm situation.
Exactly, absolutely, yes, yes,but I think if you take the time
to just feel calm every day,whether it's listening to a
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meditation or, you know, readinga lovely book or doing your
favorite um, whatever it is,your favorite hobby, activity,
whatever it is, or hobby, youwill, you know, you can, you can
take those feelings with youand they will allow you to feel
calmer in in more stressfulsituations.
So it's like a skill, isn't it?
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Like what we were saying aboutthe first responders?
It's a skill that can belearned, yes, to then use on a
daily practice, even when youknow you might think you don't
need it.
You don't need it, but inreality, in life, you know, even
when you're driving, you'restuck in traffic, whatever it is
, there's so many, there's somany levels of stress, aren't
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there that can affect you?
Yeah, and it's how you manageto react to these levels.
Is you know what, how happyyour life will be in the end,
how, what kind of a life you'regoing to have.
Well, at the end of each day,it's crucial, isn't it?
It's crucial, it is't it?
It's crucial, it is crucial.
So it's a great skill to youknow.
Make sure it's a habit.
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Yeah, practice it every day.
Practice makes perfect,absolutely, it really does.
Perfection does not exist.
No, it kind of makes it so thatyou can Makes it okay, I think,
yeah, so that you can handle,you know, your, your more
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stressful things that cantrigger you, exactly your
triggers.
If you know you have a triggerthat you know that affects you
know, practice it.
Practice keeping calm in thosesituations.
Practice you have someone thatlike, if you have someone that
I'm just thinking, if you have aperson that really gets to you
every time you see them andmakes you feel really anxious,
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you know, remember, before youprepare yourself, before you're
going to see them.
So do the power pose, do theselittle tricks where you put your
hands on you, stand up tall andtree as tall as a tree and you
have, you have.
You know you can imagine a cordholding you up and feeling
powerful, put your shouldersback and then go with a deep
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breath to it.
You know, before you talk tothem, absolutely, so you can
prepare yourself, you prepareyourself, especially if you know
you're going to have a meetingwith them or or they're just a
part of your family, a familymember inevitable you're gonna,
you're gonna see them most ofthe time.
You can get ready for it, youcan get ready, you get ready,
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you put your, you know, you getready, you can.
And if you know that it's goingto be, you know we used to have
this.
We wrote about it in one of ourbooks, I think.
It was like an invisibleumbrella that you can just open
and allow a lot of.
You know the.
It's like a protective shield,isn't it?
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Yes, to allow the things justto fall off the umbrella as if
they were raindrops?
Yes, and just drop to the floorand you won't be affected, you
won't get wet, you won't get wet, you won't get hurt and you'll
be protected.
So it's another kind ofimaginary tool that you can use.
Yes, indeed, yes, indeed.
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So it's another kind ofimaginary tool that you can use.
Yes, indeed.
Well, thank you for listeningand we're going to be staying
calm.
Yeah, feel free to share thispodcast because you know, our
aim is to help as many people aswe can that are not feeling
calm at the moment and to tofeel more calm and um.
So, yeah, yeah, it's all aboutmind, health and anxiety, isn't
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it how we live our lives?
Trying to live our lives in amindful, healthy and anxiety
free way and hopefully beingable to transmit some of that
calmness onto you as well, thatyou can share with your family
and friends too.
Yes, lots of love and smilesfrom the English sisters.
Oh, and please do send us atext message and tell us how
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you're feeling.
Bye for now, bye, bye-bye.