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What do cherished family traditions, comedy shows, and Thanksgiving dinner all have in common? Find out as we reflect on a whirlwind of laughter and nostalgia on the Killed it Trash Podcast! Fresh from an electrifying night at the Comedy Farm in Altoona, where we hosted talents like Christina Mariani and Lennon Free, we're riding high on the energy of live comedy and gearing up for more. The holiday season has us recalling the joy of Thanksgiving gatherings, from debating the pronunciation of "pecan" to navigating multiple family dinners, each with its own unique charm and culinary flair.

We'll take you on a journey through the delightful chaos of Thanksgiving traditions, where food and family intertwine to create unforgettable memories. Whether it's the uproarious church potlucks featuring Susie's mom's legendary Texas sheet cake or envisioning a seafood feast at a karaoke bar for a fun twist on funeral food, our stories capture the essence of community and connection. As we touch on the diverse cultural influences embedded in our holiday meals, expect a lively discussion on regional accents and quirky terms like "hoagies."

Amidst the laughter, we don't shy away from the complexities of family dynamics, from humorous tales of holiday shopping anxiety to heartfelt reflections on parenting and political differences. Despite the challenges, we remain thankful for our loyal listeners, the gift of comedy, and the enduring bonds that keep us grounded. With a blend of humor and sincerity, we celebrate the multifaceted nature of family and traditions, acknowledging that even in the chaos, there's always something to be grateful for.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here we are once again on the Killed it Trash
Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yeah, it's season one , episode nine.
And I'm saying season onebecause we are going to wrap up
this year with episodes 10 and11.
And then in 2025, it'll beseason two.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Season two Like a show.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
So last week, if you listened, we talked about Chucks
.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
We did.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
And it was a really fun episode.
It was a little bit emotional,but mostly fun.
We did actually get a report infrom one of our loyal listeners
who wanted to share that herfavorite drug movie was.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Natural Born Killers, which is an amazing movie.
It is a great movie.
I haven't seen it in a verylong time.
I'll have to go back andrewatch.
Yeah, it's been a while.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
It has been a while.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
It's been quite a while.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Shout out to Sister Alita Thank you for letting us
know what your favorite drugmovie is.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
What's been going on in our lives since the last time
.
One of the big highlights was Igot to host a show at the
Comedy Farm in Altoona Shout outComedy Farm.
Thank you, Rich Hershberger.
He's an amazing comedian and heputs all that together and it
was a great time.
What a lineup.
Yeah, you talk about a goodtime, good turnout, both nights,

(01:22):
both yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Great turnout both nights.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Matter of fact, I think he had to add the second
show because the first one soldout so quickly.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Perhaps who knows, but I mean they.
I think he might add twoplanned originally, I don't know
I don't know, but regardless,rich is a rich is the man yeah,
he's a good guy making thingshappen in the comedy world in
where there wasn't things themiddle of Pennsylvania, yeah,
exactly, and a lot of greatcomics.
Christina Mariani, of course,was in town and she absolutely

(01:52):
murdered.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Listen, I am may or may not be prejudiced against
female comedians, because Ihaven't seen a lot of really
epic ones lately.
However, christinaiani isprobably.
She's definitely one to watch.
This girl is just.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
She's going places, that kid's going places.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah, what do you?

Speaker 1 (02:10):
think no, but and the guys from Harrisburg Lennon
Free.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Oh my God, absolutely killed it Amazing, amazing.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
And then the second night, mike O'Donnell he was
like.
Like I said, stone Cold Killersman because they were just the
room was in stitches.
It was really good.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
It was great energy.
It was a fun show yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
The most fun I've had at a show like in terms of the
energy of the crowd, all of that.
It was just a great time and ofcourse we'll be back up there.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
This coming Friday, black Friday we'll be back up
there.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
In and around Altoona , pennsylvania, and you listen
to this on Thanksgiving when itdrops.
Then you'll be able to hit theshow.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, and speaking of Lennon Free, he'll be back up
there along with Andrew Glessner, who's hilarious.
We saw him host at the—we'veseen him a couple times, but
we've been up to the Comedy Zone.
He's really funny.
Yeah, I'm not too familiar withthe other guy, but it's still
going to be a great show.
Ridge doesn't bring anybody in,that's not funny.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
No, he's got it, dude .

Speaker 3 (03:10):
He's got an eye yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
And he puts on a great show and the Comedy Farm
is a great venue.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
In terms of being there at Arts Altoona in the gr,
as they call it.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
It's cool, it's got a great vibe and the arts out to
the staff are all amazing aswell.
They're fun friendly sherry'sgreat yeah sherry is so nice, so
yeah, yeah, for sure but yeah,looking forward to it.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
So yeah, um, but yeah , let's get into this.
This week's episode is aboutthanksgiving kind of kind of but
it's also about just crazyfamily stories, and just just
that's what it's about just funfamily stories.
What do you do at the holidays?
What do your families make?
What do your families make?

(03:53):
Now, I don't know why it cameout like that, but every time
he's talking about food he turnsitalian I start to get it, it
starts to come out like you'llsee this trend.
It's happened in severalepisodes that'd be funny to put
a compilation together me justtalking about food in a like a
new york, new york accent newyork italian except for you.
I had to laugh and call this outbecause you got corrected by

(04:17):
the legendary the mayor of 18thstreet jeff lucino who straight
up called me out at Mario's theother night because I said
instead of subs when I wastalking about New Jersey.
But I had to point out that, tobe fair, like around
Philadelphia, like the extensionof Jersey that's out in
Philadelphia, there's a goodportion of Jersey that's hoagies

(04:39):
and not subs.
But I get his point, it's fair.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
It's fair, it was a fair call out.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
It was a fair call out.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
It was a fair call out he's an authentic Jersey boy
.
Yeah, so yeah or New.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
York.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Jersey, yeah, whatever.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
He's an Italian East Coaster, like in that region, so
he straight up.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
He knows.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
He said subs.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, but it's more fun to say hoagies in Italian.
It is, yeah, it is more fun tosay hoogies.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Hoogies is more fun to say.
However, your accent is Hoogies.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, because if you're from my neck of the woods
, it's hoogies.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
But just crazy family stories.
That's what we said we weretalking about.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
I got off because of the Italian accent that threw me
off.
Yeah no, but let's just startoff First.
The fun part about Thanksgivingis getting to hit all the
different Thanksgivings.
I love when there's multipleThanksgivings to go to.
I want to go to mom's, I wantto go to dad's, I want to go to
uncle Bob's, I want to go tograndma's I want to go to.
But that's what I miss when Iwas a kid, cause you would go to

(05:35):
both sets of grandparents.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
You did.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
I did yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
But no, I'm saying a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, that's what I just mean.
It's fun to bounce around anddo those things for Christmas
style.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Where you're just going to every family and you
eat.
That's the other thing that Ifirst noticed about Thanksgiving
.
Of course, me food was.
I immediately liked differentThanksgivings for different
reasons.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Oh, my gosh, Absolutely Because.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
I want to go here because they have the best sweet
potatoes.
I want to go here because theygot the best noodles.
I want to go here because theygot the best Z.
No, I'm just kidding.
No, but that's, that's a great,that's a great call out there.
Along the way we've gone to alot of different families.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
We have been very blessed to be invited to several
Thanksgivings over the years,several, and obviously there's
our traditional family ones.
But yes, my daughter's uncleand my daughter's grandmother
lived in Cockeysville, baltimorearea.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
And, I think, two years we went down for.
Thanksgiving, and Brian is anamazing cook.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
It was just a lot of fun because it was like, like I
said, I never had.
I think it was baked ziti,wasn't it?
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Like I never had any kind of Italian.
Like lasagna or baked ziti.
Yeah, I think it was baked ziti.
It might have been both.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Yeah, but I never had that Like my family never had
any kind of a talent.
There was never red sauceinvolved at Thanksgiving in any
way shape or form.
It was the furthest thing fromeverybody's mind.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, but their family's part of talent.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, so it was interesting to have that.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, that was an.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
RIP Sister Barbara and Grandma Catherine.
Yeah, yeah.
But that was fun though,because that was one of the
first times I ever talked to anun, and it was fun.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
She was a fun nun she was a fun nun, I love Sister
Barbara and she was like in thelocation where the remember that
the keepers this, that father,because they both were from,
like, the Baltimore area and sothat the show Well, Sister
Barbara is from Pittsburghoriginally but she must have

(07:51):
been down there I feel like theydefinitely knew her for some
reason, because they were downthere that might have been where
she was for her nunning back inher nunning days because
Dakota's grandmother was a nunfor
five minutes before she gotmarried.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, but yeah, you talk about I always.
I never knew a nun would bedown to earth.
I've seen the flying, though,but that's fake.
But I I didn't know that a nunwould be like cool yeah she was
so cool and down to earth shejust talked to you like a
regular person and I don't meanregular.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Everybody talks to you like regular person but I'm
saying like she was just chilland for the array of bullshit
that katherine's kids have putthem through.
She was just really just chill.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, she was just had it very practical yes which
is not what you wouldnecessarily think about a nun
but she was just very practical,very down to earth, very yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
And that had to come from the experience of being
from Pittsburgh and then livingin Baltimore.
Like just having the experienceof understanding, like the real
human struggle, do you?

Speaker 1 (08:55):
know what I mean.
Right, you're a nun.
You're touching parts ofsociety that don't necessarily
get touched, so you do see a lotof realness.
That's why it's, if you got agood attitude, you can go far
with it.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
There's a lot of good jokes in there, but I won't go
there.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Why.
Because, that's a little I dowrite some of the jokes.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
So yeah, but that was so.
That's an amazing Thanksgivingexperience.
But so my first mother-in-law,miss Linda, she's the one that
actually introduced me to greenbean casserole, because I had
never experienced green beancasserole, yeah at a
thanksgiving, and this was inthe early to mid 90s, but then

(09:34):
my sister that's her thing, so Ithink that's the time that it
probably took off yeah because Iremember it coming out about
the same time, because and eventhen it wasn't like at every
thing, it was just like here andthere you would see it at,
maybe like a church potluck.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah, because we went to a lot of those growing up.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah, absolutely.
Oh, buddy, I love the churchpotluck.
You couldn't beat that, oh manAt Quincy.
You'd go down the basement lowhanging ceiling, but you'd just
see these crock pots peoplebringing dishes out of the
kitchen.
And the cool thing about Quincy, too, is Dave Wagner.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
He's a good cook, he's a real legitimate cook.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
That's what he does for a living.
Yeah, he went to church there,so he'd be back there, it was
well orchestrated.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Is what we're saying?

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, yeah, it was always tough Quin, it was always
top Quincy.
Dinners were always top notch.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
A lot of my Thanksgiving church activities
were around the Ferndale UnitedMethodist because I would go
with Susie and her parents and Imean it would be very similar.
But it was a lot of potluck.
I always looked forward toSusie's mom's Texas sheet cake.
Because Texas sheet cake.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, so the dinners.
So we went to two differentchurches.
Of course we went to what weused to do.
So when my mom married mystepdad, we neither one wanted
to give up their church.
So the timing was right that wewould go to one church for
church and then go to mystepdad's church for sunday
school oh, so we had enough timefrom when that church let out

(11:03):
the drive over to hangarstownhalf hour ride from one church
to the other.
And we used to time from whenthat church let out the drive
over to Hagerstown half hourride from one church to the
other.
And we used to do this when welived in Greencastle, so we had
a half hour ride to the firstchurch, then a half hour ride to
the second church and then ahalf hour ride back home but, I
didn't like the dinners as muchat Norm's church.
You know what I mean.

(11:23):
They weren't quite as goodbecause they're uppity white
folk.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
They weren't country white folk.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Here's the others the country right, right, oh for
sure, for sure, and not onlythat, but what I will give
norm's church, though, is theyhad some good meals.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
They're very nice.
We had some, we had some.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
We've had some good yeah, they do good breakfast and
stuff.
They're pancake breakfast.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
Buddy rest in peace norm.
But whoever made the sandwiches, his funeral, like all his
funeral food, was all by thechurch and it was no, I love
funeral food, dude, I lovefuneral food.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
So much so that it's in his jokes so much so that
actually I might, because I'venever referred to it as funeral
food.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
That's funny because I don't know what you got.
Everybody calls it somethingdifferent, but let's be honest
though.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Set aside the fact of why you're there, some of these
things got spreads like youwouldn't believe, better than
some weddings that I've been to.
Yeah, like they got likesandwich trays.
I love the assemble your ownsandwich like buffet.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Right At a funeral, the meat and cheese platter was
on the table.
Are you kidding me?
I know, I know.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
God rest his soul, whoever it is.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
I couldn't even tell you.
I'm sure we had fried chickenat my son's.
I don't remember any of that.
But yeah, unfortunately I'vebeen to way too many funerals.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
So I mean that's yeah .
You have the variety pack there.
You don't know what you'regetting at a funeral.
Speaking of which, when I dieand we'll probably talk about
this again what are we eating atmy?

Speaker 2 (12:51):
funeral.
Buddy, you're gonna eat goodlike you're gonna eat good.
I don't really drink that much,but I want everybody to just be
at a bar singing songs sing allmy favorite sing all the
karaoke songs that I used to dothere will be food provided yeah
, that I will make sure.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yes and it, yeah, it'll probably be seafood,
depending on how rich you'relooking at a smorgasbord that'll
rival the biggest one inlancaster lancaster lancaster,
lancaster lancaster, lancaster Ilove the different ways people

(13:22):
say lancaster is like how Idon't need.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Here's the thing is.
I've said I love the differentways people say it.
Lancaster is like I don't.
I don't need.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Here's the thing is I've said it so many different
ways, like just being funny,because I always.
I always do that.
Anytime there's multiplesayings, I tend to say all of
them instead of just one so fun.
Words are fun but it's one ofthose.
I don't even remember how Ioriginally said it.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
I don't know how I say it per se right, because I
hear I'm just very conscious ofit because I got corrected by
one of not the amish, but I meta mennonite girl when I first
moved to waynesboro and shecorrected me on how she's she
said it and I was like, oh, isthat how you say it?
Like the what's the other onethat I like to say that's out
that way, skull kill yeah, yeah,I think that's how you say it.

(14:08):
That is how you say it yeah, butlancaster is how you're
supposed to say it lancaster,lancaster.
There's no drawl in it, becausewe're not supposed to be from
the south, but a lot of right.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
If you live in lancaster then you might feel
like you do.
I wonder how the Amish say itDo they say like Lancaster,
lancaster, lancaster.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Lancaster.
That sounded British.
The Amish don't sound British.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Maybe they do, maybe they do, no, they don't.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
No, I know what they sound like.
I listen to them at the store.
They sound like they'respeaking German in a
high-pitched voice.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
Some of them are.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Some of them are I know what you're saying, bitches
, because I know German.
And not only that I see youwalking around with your cell
phones.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Oh, they're allowed to do it, to conduct business,
If they're a part of a liberalordnung.
No, because I watched the wholething about the people at the
Reading Terminal Market inPhilly.
There's a couple of authenticAmish stands but they use
because they're like we can'tconduct business in this world
without.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Right, you know what I?

Speaker 1 (15:20):
mean, but they have rules.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
They agreed their ordinal or whatever agreed, you
know what I mean, that theycould use it for business or
whatever.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
So it's these rules are fluid because they're all
made up.
It's just like anything else.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
They're all made up.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
So when time push comes to shove, they'll change
it if they need to.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
You know what I mean.
It's like when they let theirwomen vote for the first time in
a century, right?
Just kidding, I don't know ifthey did or didn't.
I wasn't there anyways.
So what was your?
So you traveled.
Did your mom cook when you werelittle for Thanksgiving?

Speaker 1 (16:00):
No, my mom never made Thanksgiving dinner.
She helped at grandma's.
Okay, but sorry.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Wait, let me hit this so I can cut that whole bit out
.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Okay For.
So when mom and dad weretogether, we went to grandma
Flickles and then grandma Reed's.
Okay.
And then when mom well see, ata certain point, graham, at a
certain point Graham quit doingThanksgiving.

(16:34):
Now, at a certain point, though, graham, because she just
couldn't do it physically.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
that's when I feel like we had Thanksgiving at her
house.
The one time though Maybe thatwas Christmas I did eat a meal
prepared by Mary.
Um, well, that's when I feellike we had Thanksgiving at her
house the one time, though, whenwe maybe, that was Christmas.
I did eat a meal prepared byMary before she passed and it
was like ham and rolls and Idon't remember if there was
turkey involved.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
It was either Thanksgiving or Christmas.
It wouldn't have beenThanksgiving, it could have been
like Easter or something too.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
You know what I mean, because she always did the same
things oh yeah, we had grandma,that's one thing you and I were
together for one whole set ofholidays before she passed One
thing that I loved about GrandmaReed, that I always loved, is
ham at everything Ham atChristmas, ham at Thanksgiving,
ham at Easter Turkey too, atThanksgiving, obviously, but ham

(17:27):
was the priority and a lot ofpeople don't eat ham on
thanksgiving my parents do netlike sometimes.
I don't think you could do itwithout it.
But one thing I remember that Iloved one time we did and I
thought I still look back onthis we played a football game
at cramwell fliggles.
Everybody like it was just theright year, that, like everybody

(17:47):
was like at a good age you knowwhat I mean.
There's lots of people, lots ofmen, boys that could play right
like we could field two teamsand we played a football game.
It was a lot of fun that's coolyeah and uh, you know, uncle
kevin, of course you know, uncleKevin, of course you know
probably.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
We always played like my mom's brothers, and them and
my cousins and my brother theywould all play a game down at
the high school, but I don'tremember if it was on
Thanksgiving.
There was always like a bigcommunity game going on.
I never really participated inall that, but my mom, I guess we

(18:26):
might have went to mygrandparents like to hang out
for a little bit, especially ifthere was like football that we
wanted to watch because, like mywhole family was a Steelers
family, like my mom's family, mydad's family, my dad's parents
passed away when I was so youngthat I don't know if there was
any Thanksgiving goings on withthem.
I do remember like Christmasstuff that I'll talk about next
episode.
My mom is an amazing cook.
She was before she got.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Don't she could listen to this.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
She knows that she's not up to par anymore.
She gets it.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
She has her moments.
I do remember, though, thefirst couple Thanksgiving's that
we came up here.
I remember your mom tore it up.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
She was just getting around better, she was working
still and she was younger.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah, yeah, this is 15 years ago.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, she would have only been like not quite 60 when
we met, so she was, like youknow, running around tearing it
up and it like it was real man.
That's stuffing my mom'sstuffing is if it's not world
famous, it should be.
It's like the perfect amount ofjust butter.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah, it was like the perfect mix.
Celery yeah, because there'sonly so much you can do with
stuffing outside of withoutgoing crazy.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Without adding oysters or sausage or all that
bullshit, or gizzards.
Yeah, although Carla at workshared an amazing recipe with us
on our team thing and it's likea jimmy dean's sausage stuffing
recipe it looked amazing.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
I've had some good sausages like that.
I'm just not a fan.
I'd rather go with the moretraditional.
But the thing that made yourmom so good, it was just the
perfect balance of all thosethings, the perfect balance of
celery and onion and butter andcelery salt, and the bread had
that great texture, the rightamount of egg, all of that.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yes, it's just perfect.
I don't know Now.
I will say, though, and I cando it too.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
I enjoy my grandma Fliggle's stuffing in the bird.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yes, like she has a way of getting it like to be
perfect without being wet.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
It's not.
It's like the right, it'sfluffy.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Yeah, it's weird, but it's not weird in a bad way,
weird in a good way.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
Her bird stuffing is very, very good.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah what were you just saying about cooking,
though that reminded me of in abrain freeze.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
I'll go ahead with the part I was going to say
about now.
We've hosted thanksgiving,which is a lot of fun too, yeah
I enjoy hosting a lot ofpreparation.
I feel very much like clarkgriswold when I'm doing it,
because it just feels likeeverything you're, it's a
juggling act it is a jugglingact, but I've said this.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
I actually said this on social media last week is
that when you and I cooktogether, when we're in the
kitchen together, it's like awell machine, it's like a dance
being an event is we're verygood at it we're very good at it
.
We just know our roles and wepretty much stick to them and we
tell each other what we needand when we're going to need

(21:35):
certain space in the kitchen.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
I mean, it just works out, we just host.
We're good at planning a partyask anybody who's eating here.
Yeah, because when you eat here, you're not just.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
You're taking some home?

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah, you're going to eat three times.
You're going to have foodforced upon you additional six
times by her dad.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
And then you're also going to have to take a full
tray home for each member ofyour family.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
And the only rule is bring your own fucking
containers.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
No, most of the time, half the time, we have them.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
We knew that we were so bad at over-making food that
we actually started stocking upon styrofoam takeout containers.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Here's the thing we like to offer a variety.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Yes, we like to offer a variety, yes.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
However, where our fatal flaw is, we plan on each
person eating each normal amountof each thing, which that's not
how people eat when they're.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
They take one of this , one of this, one of that.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
So that's where we are, but it's fine because
everybody always goes home happy, like I said take a good meal
home.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
But so when we first got together, we hosted a couple
of friends givings, which wasamazing because, like when we
obviously everybody's like offand married and has kids and all
this, that and the other.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
So everybody's grown apart.
But there was a good core groupof maybe 20 to 30 of us at any
time that got together andusually at our house, not always
, but Friendsgiving was reallyfun.
I'm just remembering, like theI don't know if it was the
Potomac Street yeah, we did oneon Potomac Street.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
We also did one on Price Avenue, yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Price Avenue.
That's it, but we did one onPrice Avenue.
Yeah, price Avenue.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
That's it, but we did one at Potomac Street too,
because that had a good diningroom.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah, Price did and we had a table.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, that was a nice table.
Yeah, but yeah, some moreThanksgiving stuff.
One of the things that I alwayslook forward to was hunting, so
rifle Pennsylvania rifle seasonof course comes in, for a large
portion of my life would comein that Monday.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
After Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
After Thanksgiving Now of course it starts Saturday
, but for the PA rifle season.
But I also enjoy, becausegrowing up, when Uncle Kevin was
still alive, we bear hunt inthe week leading up to
Thanksgiving.
Then you'd havegiving and thenyou were going back out there
for for deer and I have an uncle, kevin's bear what do you mean?

Speaker 2 (24:15):
he didn't get a bear I thought he had one in his
downstairs, didn't he?

Speaker 1 (24:24):
I'll have to look that up later I don't remember
having it because, yeah, his daddid oh, okay, his dad had that
bear.
Okay, maybe that's what I'mremembering yeah, I don't think
he had a bear mounted theremaybe I'm thinking of gregory's,
but no, yeah, but it might havebeen, I might have been his

(24:46):
dad's too, but yeah, but yeah.
So I love that stuff, of course, when you're growing up being
off school yeah it's like theultimate you're.
You have a blast that weekendand for me, hunting in between
was like even better and it's Ilove being a hunter's wife too.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
There's a whole like kind of culture.
There's like rituals thathappen there's.
I mean, you don't do it, butmarty used to do the whole like
going out the week before andbuying everything that he could
wear, whether he needed it ornot you know what my favorite
part is, though You're probablyable to guess.
Sassafras tea.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
That, but I was going to say pack at my lunch.
That's my favorite part isplanning out my snacks and my
food for the day.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
As I'm out there in the wilderness.
And if it's, what I don't likeis when you go out there and
it's not cold, because then Idon't feel like.
Then you're just like it's notthe same, but when you're cold
you're like eating to survive.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, You're just barelystaying warm.
You're eating to keep warm.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
No, you're right, Cause on.
I remember the one season thatit was like unseasonably warm.
When you got back from huntingyou kept forgetting your food
was still in your pack becauseyou didn't eat it or whatever.

(26:15):
It's disgust.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
That's what happens, um, but no, I love, but obviously the main
thing I love about hunting isfucking deer jerky yeah, jerky,
of course, or and bologna andbologna and jerky the meat
products of yeah, I like alsochipped venison, like chipped
beef.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
See, I don't really fall with I like that I'm not
anti, dear me.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
You just don't tell me and I might never know but I
feel like it tastes gamey someof it probably does but I do
like jerky yeah and I

Speaker 3 (26:43):
didn't.
Who does?

Speaker 2 (26:43):
obviously people who are weird the men in my life
have always hunted, so I'veeaten.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
I've fried up some good freaking loins or whatever
there's, yeah, some goodtenderloins, backstraps, yeah,
yeah, buddy, a little butter,garlic, herb butter, a little
butter, shout out garlic herbbutter.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
But oh, I remember what I wanted to say though,
speaking of hunting, because itjust reminds Garlic herb butter.
A little butter, shout outgarlic herb butter.
But oh, I remember.
What I wanted to say, though,speaking of hunting, because it
just reminds me of that side ofmy family, is the other
tradition that I'd never knownabout until I moved over to
Franklin County was hog maw.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Like I'd never heard of that.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
I like hog maw, it's so good.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Very good.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Very good of that.
I like hog maw.
It's so good, very good, verygood, and so my son's family,
who we are blessed to spend thisthanksgiving with.
They make it, and I think lastyear that didn't they smoke some
I think so, but I just rememberhow good it was.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
It was real good.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
It was probably some of the best hog maw I've had do
you want to explain to listenerswhat hog maw is, in case they
don't know?
It's it's a pig stomach.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
It's a meal that's cooked in a pig stomach.
Yeah, it's what potatoes.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
It's potatoes, sausage, onions.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
And all that stuff.
Yeah, some people put cabbagein it, some people don't Stuffed
inside a pig stomach and thenyou cook it and it's delicious,
it's so delicious and theoutside gets crispy, anyways,
and the outside gets crispy.
Anyways no, I was going to sayso we forgot a whole chunk of
what happens at Thanksgiving,which is we get really high.

(28:14):
No, it's often that too.
We'll talk about that in aminute.
Who doesn't love the goodpre-dinner smoke?
That's the.
If there's ever a day for apothead, it's thanksgiving.
Yeah, because you're just likepeople are just, it's so much
food.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
Yeah, you're just like gonna have a blast, but
like I don't get the munchiesanymore, it's still fun to get
out before you eat.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
But but is that?
Thanksgiving has often beencalled the gateway to Christmas.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
Stop it.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
But it is, though, hold on pause that because, I
got to check my turkey.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Okay, I'm just going to stop the recording.
Do you want to start?

Speaker 1 (28:56):
That was fun.
I really enjoyed that.
Thank you, we were talkingabout that.
Thanksgiving is the gateway toChristmas.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Where are you going with this?

Speaker 1 (29:11):
No, I'm just saying.
One of the best parts aboutThanksgiving is then a lot of
people.
I don't remember who, but we'llput up their tree.
Yeah, we would always do stufflike that, like when we got home
in the evening, yeah, of courseyou start to watch movies.
You start to watch christmasbecause this is really the
christmas movie season.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
You don't watch movies like after christmas
there's not like a lot ofthanksgiving movies playing
trains and automobiles, which Ido love.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
It's a great thanksgiving movie.
I like watching thanksgivingepisodes of tv shows oh yeah,
that's real fun that I enjoy,that.
We always do that.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
We always watch seasonal episodes of the shows
that we like, of the shows welike yeah the new girl with zoe
de chanel.
We watch their thanks.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Thanksgiving episodes King of Queens.
Thanksgiving episodes Psych,psych, although psych psych.
They don't have anyThanksgiving episodes, but they
do with Christmas.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Okay, but we do it with all the seasons.
She's sick?
No, she's licking though I knowwhat else.
Oh, like, if there's any goodThanksgiving South Park episodes
.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Or Saturday Night Live.
You know what I mean.
Sorry, we have a cat right now.
That's literally licking thedesk chair.
I don't know if you can hearthat noise.
That's the cat licking thechair.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
We're just going to ignore her.
That's me out at the graygray's anatomy's got some good
thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
No, I don't know if they do or not house, they do
house has some good ones.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
I love watching house episodes that are seasonal and
then for me it's like gossipgirl has some good thanksgiving
episodes simpsons for me.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Family Guy of course has some good ones.
Yeah, oh my gosh.
So I mean, that probably givesyou a really good insight into
who we are based off of what wewatch.
No, but I love that stuff, ofcourse.
How can we talk aboutThanksgiving without talking
about the parade?

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
So listen, I never watched the Thanksgiving.
Did I know what it was and hadseen it before, sure, but it
wasn't part of our thanksgivingtradition but you introduced me
that was like your whole thing.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
You're like I gotta watch it so as fucking, as
dysfunctional.
Dysfunctional as my family wasgrowing up, there was traditions
that kept us all together,right, and that was one of them.
We would get up early enough towatch the parade.
I think it starts at seven oreight, but I'd be up at seven

(31:53):
waiting, watching the pre-show,and I'm such a sucker for lights
, dancing music.
And then excuse me, but likewhen you're young, like that's
how you get to see all yourfavorite artists and all your
favorite acts and shows and allthat stuff.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Is that recording correctly?
I don't know.
No, it just looked weird, Iguess, because it was just the
same.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Because you weren't talking, it was just picking up.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Yeah, it just looked weird, I guess because it was
just the same, because youweren't talking, it was just
picking up.
Yeah, I got you.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
But anyways so and my dad would always make like a
light breakfast.
No, my dad's like huge onbreakfast, so he would always
make like toast and eggs becausewe didn't want to fill up like
crazy.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
See, that's what's crazy is we never ate breakfast.
You're going to Thanksgiving,buddy.
Some people did but, my parentsmade it.
No, I know that's what I'msaying, that's what I, honestly,
that's what I hated when wewould come up here to visit.
Is Listen, you made the biggestmeal ever.
The night before when we gothere, you force fed me a fucking

(32:54):
all-star American specialbreakfast with bacon, sausage,
eggs, potatoes, french toast,just say no, yeah.
and then you're like oh, we'reeating at two o'clock, what?
What is happening right now?
Who's eating?
Who has room to possibly eat?
And then you're gonna criticizeme when I only eat small

(33:16):
portions and be like that's allyou're, that's all you're eating
, that's all you're eating.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
No, I love it, and so , yeah, macy's Thanksgiving was
like it's just.
It's such a heartfelt memoryfor me I at least glimpse it now
.
I mean, as an adult, I don'thave any grandchildren that I
know of, so it doesn't feel asfun anymore.
Plus, I don't know the acts.
I only listen to country, andI'm not against other acts, but
I don't know what the kids arelistening to these days it does

(33:46):
I feel a little disconnected.
So yeah, the Macy's day was likemy big thing and I'm such a
sappy, emotional fuck that likeI'll sit there and ball through
the whole thing for no reason.
It's a happy event, like I loveit, but I'm just like weirdly
emotional that way I will alsosay, as far as thanksgiving
things, football of courseobviously is a huge part.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
But what's weird for me is like growing up football
wasn't a huge part ofthanksgiving, because there was
only like two games and it wasalways like.
It was always like the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
Right.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
And the Lions.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
And nobody in my family cared about any of those
teams Right.
So like the game would be on,but nobody was really.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Right.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Uncle Tom's sleeping in the recliner with the game
going you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Right, that's it, because all the other boys were
too young, right?
But now that?

Speaker 1 (34:36):
they when they started adding that like night
game.
It's been exciting because it'sbeen the Ravens have been
involved, right, you know what Imean.
So we have some rootinginterest there in terms of.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Wait, didn't we have a Thanksgiving night game?

Speaker 1 (34:49):
I can't remember if we had a Thanksgiving night game
, or if it was Christmas,because we've had some Christmas
ones.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Oh yeah, but I don't know if we had one on
Thanksgiving.
The year that I sold theSteelers tickets to my brother.
What was that Remember?

Speaker 1 (35:02):
they were playing.
Yeah, but I thought that wasChristmas.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
Yeah, maybe, but they .

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Yeah, because it was snowing, but I think that they
might have had played the Ravensone Thanksgiving night.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Regardless Long ago, in a land of In the land of the
Monongahela.
No, I love it, though, andagain and I say this probably
every episode like my family wasdiehard stealers, like my mom,
my dad, my grandma, my grandpa,all my aunts and uncles, all my
cousins.
I don't think there is oneperson on my mom's side of the

(35:35):
family that exists that hasn'tmarried in to the family,
because I know some of the newkids are, no, my cousin some of
the new kids on the block wait,my cousin trey, the one that
just got married.
I don't think he's a steelersfan, but regardless, yeah,
majority yeah, I mean my familywas.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
I don't.
They're not moms.
Nobody on either side of myfamily is really big football
people uncle kevin was unclekevin, yeah, and hunter is yeah,
hunter.
But I mean the majority of likethey don't have the game on and
stuff I don't even know.
You know what I mean.
Like it just, and even dad.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Dad likes football but his brothers don't really
right, yeah, and whereas in myfamily it was like there was
nascar season, baseball season,football season, hockey season
like my uncles are into all thethings now.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
See pap fliggle and uncle kevin.
Both love nascar, so when we'dbe at grandma fliggles, pap
fliggle always had races onsundays.
You know what?
I mean, yeah, my grandfatherdid not, and I'd go back and ask
him questions Because nobodyelse watched it, but they were
really into it.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
When I was younger, I fucking hated racing, because
that's literally because mygrandparents had a swimming pool
so we would always be therelike all summer long and my
uncles would be like blastingNASCAR races on the radio and
I'm like what the fuck is thisbullshit?

Speaker 1 (37:02):
I was also only 12.
What's weird about NASCAR is so?
First off, I always lovedNASCAR video games.
You know what I mean, me too,and I do enjoy watching and I
had a great time when I've beento the race.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Yeah, I love the races live and when I bet on
racing.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
to me, it To me it's exciting.
It's just not exciting to me towatch without a little sugar on
it.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
I've never bet on a NASCAR race.
I don't think.
I've bet on the horses.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
Yeah, it's just there's got to be, because
here's to be, honest with you.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
She's licking again.
Yeah, it's just one of thosethings.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Now I'm trying to think of other there's really
not a whole lot of other I don'tknow.
Is there any other sportingevents?

Speaker 2 (37:45):
yeah, there's not like a big thanksgiving.
Nba is christmas.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
They always have big christmas games on the nba, but
I can't really.
I don't know if hockey hasanything with thanksgiving.
I don't remember that being athing let's veer from sports and
what so.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Is there any?
Do you you have any crazyThanksgiving stories where
something crazy happened?
What was the?

Speaker 1 (38:06):
craziest thing to happen at Thanksgiving.
I don't think so.
No, I don't think so either.
Like most of, there's been some.
I know that I've had some greattimes.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
I don't remember anything real wild happening at
any Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Really that's boring ass answer, but it is a boring
answer, but I do have.
I actually do it.
I'm not going to say the wholestory.
I'm just going to say that wewere driving back to myrtle
beach from johnstown and that'swhen you lost an iphone and I
got rid of my wedding ring ohyeah that was probably the
craziest thanksgiving ever, justbecause we hated each other

(38:42):
yeah, I was in the throes ofaddiction like, but that wasn't
like crazy, though it wasn'tlike it wasn't
crazy.
It was just me fucking, butlashing out.
But it was post thanksgivingbecause we were on our way home.
But yeah, like I've never Idon't do black friday shopping.
So like I don't do black Fridayshopping.
So I don't have any like wildblack Friday stories.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
That's another great point to bring up about black
Fridays.
Of course, like dad and Linda,my dad and my stepmother both
worked retail.
They both, like the man, likemanager, right A CVS various
stores over the years and didn'tyour dad manage a kb toys once
they managed kb toys.

(39:24):
But he also was at juvenilesales, which was a toy store in
hagerstown there was it a?

Speaker 2 (39:30):
was it a chain or just a?

Speaker 1 (39:31):
I think it was a small chain okay, because I had
never heard of it.
Yeah, and they.
They had a great big store withall kinds of power wheels.
Dad, one time, let us ride thepower wheel.
That was like you talk aboutfucking awesome.
You know what I mean.
Like you're a kid, your dadworks at a toy store.
He lets you in after they closeand lets you ride power wheels

(39:54):
around the store.
That's like movie worthy.
Yeah, that is, that's everykid's dream is to have free
reign of the power wheel in thestore.
Yeah, for sure, and it was agood time, that's cool, and so
what were we talking about?

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Just, was there any crazy?
But we didn't really have anycrazy.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Oh no, but we were talking about Black Friday
shopping.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Oh yeah, black Friday shopping.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
So.
But I was aware of Black Fridaythe first time I ever heard
they're like we're getting readyand they're like tomorrow's
Black Friday and I was like whenI was a kid, I was scared.
I was like what is this?
I seen a commercial orsomething about Black Friday.
I was scared.
I was always afraid of the endof the world as a kid, for some
reason what.

(40:43):
Because when you're religiouswhen you're raising a religious
household and you start, like me, I'm inquisitive.
So at six I'm reading the bookof Revelation like dude.
I don't want the world to end,but I was always fearful because
there's signs that you look for.
And I was always looking forthe signs and every time I seen
one I was like man kindergarten.
One time the sky turned likered and got crazy.
It was like a tornado.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
I started flipping out.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
One time I seen I was on my way to my first sleepover
in the first grade and therewas those lights that they put
on the sale for big sales.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
I don't know what they're called.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Marquee lights.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
And no, the ones that like shine up and turn yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
It's called a marquee , but I saw those on the way to
the house and then cried andmade my mom come get me after
that.
Um, because I was too scared tostay there, because I didn't
want to be somewhere when theworld was ending oh my, you know
, I wanted to be home.
I didn't want to be caught at afriend's house.
So, and then one time, one time, I ran away from home with Ben

(41:44):
Savage and he told me as we werewalking to May's video gallery,
that because we were playingNinja Gaiden or Ninja Gaiden,
ninja Gaiden I don't know howyou say it, but it was a
Nintendo game that was verypopular, and like when you died,
like your final time, you gotthree deaths, three lives or
whatever the Grim Reaper wouldshow up.
And he told me that the GrimReaper was somebody that would

(42:07):
come and get you after you died.
Even if you were going toheaven, the Grim Reaper could
come get you and take you tohell.
We returned home then because Ididn't want to run away anymore
.
Oh my God, but I was alwaysscared of the end of the world
and uh, where did I start thatstory?
Black friday.

(42:28):
So I was scared until I foundout what it was.
And then I heard about blackmonday one time and I am oh
buddy, but black monday was astock market thing and there's a
black every day of the week, Ithink if you look throughout
history.
But at the time when I was likesix dude, I was scared.

(42:48):
I was like I don't know whatthis black friday is, but I
don't want any parts of it keepit away from me because they
were like they'd show.
I'd see a commercial wherepeople were running over it's
chaos the world's ending blackfriday.
It was chaos, there wereseveral I guess black friday
really started in the 80s yeahbut the craziness, you know what
I mean.

(43:08):
Where people were.
It started with cabbage patchkids and stuff like the first
toys where people were likepushing each other out of the
way yeah, like I just never,ever participated in that
madness.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
I'm not saying that I was always on top of Christmas,
but like, obviously when mykids were younger I was poor for
a minute, but once I startedmaking money, like I didn't try
to.
I don't deal with people well,and we've talked about this.
I don't like crowds.
I get panic attacks in stores.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
One time I worked at Walmart on Black Friday.
Ugh, that's bad, but my shiftdidn't start until I want to say
nine or something like that,and by that time it's normal day
.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Right.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
The craziness of Black Friday is like those
doorbuster deals.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Right.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Doorbuster deals this weekend.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Black Friday the age of internet.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
I know that helped eliminate a lot of the crap, but
people still.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
They still go out for deals there was probably a 15
year period where Black Fridaywas insane.
People were lining up at 2o'clock on Thursday.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Probably from 85 to 2000.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Yeah.
Even into the early 2000s,because they would do those, and
I don't know if they still doit, because I haven't had kids
that needed these kinds ofthings in ages.
Even Dakota stopped wantinganything whenever she was 16, as
far as like that would betechnical yeah.
Anything that we couldn't geteasily.
So like I just never had todeal with that, I just don't, I

(44:38):
don't get it.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
I'd just rather not deal with that at all, Like I'm
not for the person that's, I'mnot lining up for nothing.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
No.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
I don't want it that bad.
I don't need it that bad.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Oh, but what I was getting ready to say with that
is they used to do that onpurpose, though, and only
release certain things.
On Black Friday, they wouldrelease a shipment of nintendos
when nintendo was the brand newthing and fucking you couldn't
get them, and I mean it wasinsane, and it was very
calculated to make sure thatthey sold out the first batch

(45:09):
doorbusters.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Um, but no, I but yeah.
So the beauty of black fridayto me was as a kid growing up
was everybody else was working,so we got to stay at Grandma's.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
You know what I mean On Thanksgiving night.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Yes, so that was my favorite part Staying at Grandma
Reed's Thanksgiving night.
You're watching whatever youwant.
You're eating her homemaderolls.
Leftover ham sandwiches, turkeysandwiches.
You're going to be eatingcinnamon rolls.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
So much so that he was still sleeping over her
house on Thanksgiving Eve.
In like his late 20s I'm jokingOn Thanksgiving Day.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
I was Because I lived there Still.
Oh, my goodness, dude, all thepies, dude.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
No wonder I became a foodie, I know me too because it
was just like oh man so,speaking of pies, one of my very
favorite things around theholidays is pecan.
Anything I love pecans.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
I love candied pecan is it pecan or pecan?

Speaker 2 (46:16):
I'm gonna say pecan, you say how you want.
I don't know if you're in thesouth, I think it's pecan, but
regardless.
So the one year that we livedin South Carolina, my girlfriend
lived in South Carolina as well, but she was originally.
She was originally from thesouth, but she lived in
Pennsylvania for a lot of years.

(46:36):
So we wanted to bring her kidssome pennsylvania dishes and I
did some shit that I'd neverdone before and I don't I did
some kind of amish corn puddingI love corn pudding.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
I love corn pudding.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
But I also did a wild sequence I also did candied
yams like four different ways.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
I, I swear I loved some of your sweet potatoes,
that one that you made.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
So it's Paula Deen's recipe.
It's my favorite sweet potatorecipe of all time.
But it has pecans in it andpecan crumble on top and brown
sugar and it's more like a pie.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
I tell you what she may say the N word, but that pie
is almost worth it speaking.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
I see black people at her restaurant now, I know I
know people don't care if thefood's good.
People don't care if they saythe n-word but so I made mashed
sweet potatoes, I madetraditional like just cubed with
marshmallows, and then I madethe paladins and I made the corn
fucking soup, and I will sayI'm not a big fan of sweet

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potatoes.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
I like them.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
I love sweet potatoes but I don't.
I get tired of eating them atThanksgiving like the sweet way.
I don't like a lot of that, butI've learned to love them
Because, no, but those ones thatyou made, the Paula Deen ones,
were like I could eat those allday.
But I'm just saying, normally Ieat a few of them and I'm done.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
I'm like I'm good, but those I could.
I mean my goodness.
And I just like my mom's withthe marshmallows on too, because
I just love toasty, roastymarshmallow.
Burnt marshmallows are myfavorite flavor, I think I don't
like them when they're likemashed.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Do you know what I mean?
Like that's.
What does it for some people?
Just?

Speaker 2 (48:30):
dump them in sand syrup and put the marshmallows
over top and let it go I likethat when they're still chunky I
like that.
Yeah, that's how I like itbecause if you mash them and you
add too much like milk orbutter when you're mashing them,
sweet potatoes get really runnyeasily see.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
So grandma reed had good ones that I always loved.
They were like always the hunks, but she just made like her
monkey bread syrup.
Basically it was just butterand like brown sugar and that's
all that they were, yeah, yeahand they weren't.
But there was no marshmallows,but they were sweet as all get
out you know what I mean it wassyrup I love it.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
I'm trying to think my.
I mean, I always look forward,obviously, to my mom's stuffing,
but the one thing that's weirdand store-bought that my family
does on Thanksgiving is thosebrown and serve rolls.
It's coming in like a 12.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Now that we're back to food, let's go to cranberry
relish.
So I enjoy both kinds.
I enjoy the weird shaped formin the thing from the can.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Oh yeah, that's what I like.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Well, that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
When you said we're shape-formed, I was thinking of
the chunks.

Speaker 1 (49:37):
No, because it's like you could take it out of a can
and it looks like a can no I getit, but I love, no, I love the
fresh cranberry salad too, likeGrandma Fliggle makes.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Grandma Fliggle makes good cranberry salad.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
I just don't prefer chunky, and she also it is,
that's how good that fruit saladis.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
And you'll hear about it at Christmas time because
it's that good, because I'mbringing it back up and she
makes it in that giantTupperware container.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
I swear that thing's got flavor locked into it from
the 1980s.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
It does.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Do they even make them?
It's like a five gallon bucket.
It's not five gallon, it's two.
At least it's two.
It's not one, it's definitelynot one, it's.
It might even be three it mightbe three.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
It might even be three.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
It's big do we have any tupperware consultants that
can tell us the biggest size?
It's clear has a blue lid ordoes it have a?

Speaker 1 (50:30):
no, it has the old.
It's about the color of acigarette stained white wall
because it's been around for solong it's got the baby.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (50:39):
well, originally, I think it was white or clear ish.
Do you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (50:44):
and now it's just I love it.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
It's a good size, though she might not even have
that anymore, I don't know, butthat's the one I grew up eating
she had a big ass one at thelast.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Yeah, I don't know they.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
Like I said, I'm pretty sure they don't make that
one anymore.
That's why she's been usingthat one.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Does your mom sell Tupperware.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
No, but she definitely knows who does.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
She knows who does.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
I love it.
She keeps her ear to thestreets.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
We need to talk about that.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
My mom sells Tupperware.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Yeah, we'll do a small business episode where we
talk about all that bullshit.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
You know what this is so funny?
We talk about all that bullshitI.
You know what this is so funny?

Speaker 3 (51:24):
we talk about my memory and food.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
I remember driving to a tupperware convention in york
and the only reason I rememberit is because they mom and had
pre-made egg sandwiches justwhite bread egg like waynesboro
style just egg no, scrambled egg, white cheddar, american cheese
on bread and a goodold-fashioned egg sandwich and

(51:45):
it is delicious and but we hadthem to go.
I remember that.
I also remember one time wewent to a flea market with dan
linda and carlisle and westopped at a hardy's.
There was a hue, a Huey Lewis,and the News were there.
Their tour bus was parkedoutside.
We went inside and had raisinbiscuits, the cinnamon ones, Did
your dad talk to Huey Lewis?

(52:06):
No, he wanted to, though I waslike who's Huey Lewis?
And why is this news?

Speaker 2 (52:13):
So Dakota actually touched the hand of who's?
The lead singer of Alabama, um,johnny Bama.
No, I should know this, butanyways, how?
So Alabama was in town, theywere playing at the war memorial
and I had um been pushingDakota around in her stroller

(52:34):
downtown and my Deanna, whosewedding we were at, she was
working inside and she's like,was she working or was she just
happened to be in there?
And she's like, I just said hito Alabama in the restaurant
because they were in the hotelrestaurant, and so I just walked
in and asked if I could have anautograph and they said yeah,
and he shook Dakota's hand.
She was in the stroller.

(52:54):
It's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Speaking of the War Memorial, Jim Brickman is going
to be at the War Memorial.
I want Jim Brickman's hand.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
You did.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
Yeah, jim Brickman, I told you he was friends with
Norm.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
And he shook his hand .
I didn't know that.
You said he was friends withNorm.
I didn't know you met him.
I didn't know that, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
He used to do promotional events at the radio
station all the time he wasbecause he's not- popular.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Why did you say it like normally he's not popular.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
He's not popular, but I'm just saying he's not even.
He's not famous.
I would bet you could go ask ahundred people in the street who
Jim Brickman is, and they don'tfucking know.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
I'd never heard of him.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
No, but he's more famous but people who like that
kind of music and music know who?

Speaker 1 (53:43):
he is clearly all 40 of them, yeah he's getting
booked here in johnstown.
I'd be interested, yeah no, buthe does what I think.
He had a christmas album thatwas very popular.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
It's like piano.
Christmas albums like back Idon't care who the artist is.
If they're doing christmasmusic, I'm down but uh, I'm in,
he.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Uh, yeah, jim burke, he's not even it's.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
I'm joking.
We've got so much going on, I'mnot talking about that.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
I'm talking about you were like you shook his hand.
Yeah, and I also met lou scali.
It doesn't really.
It's not that big a deal.
No, even john tesh isn't thatbig of a deal.
You know what I mean.
Out of all norms, people thatcohorts.
We went to a mariah careylistening party one time.

(54:30):
I didn't get to meet her, butlike we saw her, like we're
hanging out there and she was inthe room lots of people.
Norm was hobnobbing withcelebrities.
Dude you kidding me.
He held when you were a radiomusic programmer in the 1990s.
You held the keys.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Oh, didn't you like meet Shania Twain?

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Oh yeah, he met everybody, but he was a director
of music at a radio station andthat's how they get people to
play their stuff, is they?
Let them meet people.
Yeah, they get all the localradio stations together.
They have a little meet andgreet.
That's exactly right.
They have what they call alistening party and then they
have all the radio stationpeople in there shaking hands

(55:12):
and taking pictures, and that isbasically how they're like
bribing the radio station peopleto play their music, to play
their music, yeah, and of coursethere's food and all that stuff
.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
So yeah, and nowadays it's not even like that because
, yeah, they still do havelistening parties.
I'm pretty sure that's howBrandy and Taboo's are friends,
yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
I'm sure they still do.
I mean, it's just probably notas big now that radio is not as
big, but whatever it is now,those people were there at the
listening.
Whoever's controlling what?

Speaker 2 (55:42):
people are listening to.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
On like places where they're not in.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Speaking of listening to people, I'm just going to
give this girl a shout out realquick.
Everybody's talking about BellaFrance, so I won't bring her up
the one that does the.
Grand Tour.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Okay, we do love her, but Billy bob gave her a shout
out that's his crush.
Oh, okay, that's not.
I did hear that, but I didn'tput that together.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
That's who that, but no, the, the girl that I'm
talking about is carter faith oh, that was.
She was very good yeah she'svery that's like the style
writing that I.
It felt like loretta lynn whenshe's talking about very good
this City and all that bullshit.
It's cool, it's cool.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Yeah, very cool.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
Anyway.
So Carter Faith, if you arelooking for new country music to
check out, check her out.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
No, I agree that I miss about Thanksgiving Like
warm Thanksgiving memories Is Alot of times mom would take us
to look at Because people put uptheir Christmas lights.
So a lot of times Like we drivearound, a little bit, like when
we're leaving Wherever, andlook at some Christmas lights I

(56:52):
love looking at lights, put some.
Christmas music on.
Because, most of the radiostations would start playing
Christmas music.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Yeah, oh, I love looking at lights.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
I could drive around looking at lights, listening to
music all day long.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
What's that one house out in Lightersburg that always
does the big?

Speaker 1 (57:05):
Oh yeah, Out there on Lightersburg Pike.
I don't know what it's called,but it's just a.
That's the thing it's likeevery community has known people
that do it every year rightlike a lot of the people.
They do it every year.
It's like a big thing andeverybody knows to go and watch
and right check it out and Itell you what the best light
display I think, though, that wewent to was that at the park

(57:27):
there in williamsport yeah thatwas awesome yeah williamsport
maryland it's just liketheir little town park or
whatever.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
They have it all done up yeah, it was, and you drive
through it and you turn yourradio, it's.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
It's really cool because it's a park, so they
have lots of.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
There's lots of room and stuff for them to decorate,
so it's a big property one ofthe ones on my bucket list for
this year is the pittsburgh zoohas an amazing light display
right now they let the monkeysdo the whole thing they let them
.
They let just give them freereign.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Some of it looks crazy, but some of it's good
yeah, I heard that the pandaspick the music.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
This year, though, I don't know, this thanksgiving is
going to be a little bit shitty, even though I am with my
friends and family, because it'sgoing to be the first
thanksgiving in all of her adultlife that I'm not going to be a
little bit shitty, even thoughI am with my friends and family,
because it's going to be thefirst Thanksgiving in all of her
adult life that I'm not goingto see my youngest child because
she's one of the crazy liberalsthat think all her rights are
being taken away and I voted forTrump.

(58:31):
Here's what I'm going to sayabout this.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
She blamed not only her mother, but the rest of the
people that voted for Trump for.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Half of America hates her.
Yeah, so I'm going to breakthis down real quickly, because
I've talked about it in mysocials, but I want to have my
story on record and I canfinally say all the things out
loud that I want to say out loud.
Right, not even going to getinto whether or not I was a good
mother, because that is.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
None of that's relevant.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
It's subjective.
Yeah, you could debate that allday.
It's subjective.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
But put it this way she didn't want for anything she
didn't.
She was probably a little bitspoiled.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Yeah, very spoiled.
Did I take care of her mentalhealth as well as I should have?

Speaker 1 (59:18):
probably not there's lots of things, 2020 vision but
that's about the kind of, butshe had counseling.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
She had, yes no, I agree I also continued to pay
her phone bill.
Until last year she was stillon my insurance, until friday,
it's not and she's how oldshe'll be 26 yeah, she just
turned 25 yeah we didn't saythat, yeah, she just turned 25.

(59:44):
So here's why we will not bespending thanksgiving together,
even though she has disowned me.
It is because you look likeyou're gearing up to fight
somebody.
I'm just kidding.
It is because her sociopathicpartner and I'll call it a

(01:00:04):
partner for right now said inthe car one time and once I
heard that I never could unhearit that they thought they were a
master manipulator, that theylike to play chess with people's
emotions in their lives.
And if I failed at parenting,it was in that moment when I
recognized that he was a littlepsychotic.

(01:00:26):
Fuck that I should have cut itoff there, but I didn't because
I was so happy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Perhaps we should have cut it off at the sundress
and Easter bonnet.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Let's talk about that .
We're going to get into thatbecause here's.
So she thinks that I voted forTrump because I'm transphobic.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Because her boyfriend , who's a man, says that he's a
woman and says that, and I don'tknow what they have going on,
but like neither one has everdated anyone else.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
She did date that kid in South Carolina for a little
bit.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
Yeah, but that was like.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Puppy love.
Elementary school love.
This is her, like they're theironly so.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
I hate to tell you this kids.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
but my book you're straight Like you've never, even
, you've never, and yet you wantto change all these rules.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Sorry.
So I'm just saying don't jumpon somebody else's cause.
Here's what pisses me off about.
It is that I literally had afemale fiance for two years.
It wasn't two years, we wereoff and on for two years, I
would say, of Dakota's life.
I had a living girlfriend.
I raised her to be liberal,right, but maybe where I don't

(01:01:45):
know where, I fucked up and allthat.
It's this generation.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
I don't even think it's just her generation.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Everybody was gay or you had to be something, you
couldn't just be straight shecame to me as a junior in high
school and said that she was alesbian and I said have you ever
kissed a girl?
And she said no.
And I said then you're not alesbian yet.
I just didn't understand whatthese kids all.
I felt like she wanted to be alesbian because it was like the
thing to say.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
That's just it.
It started off that, but thenthey got into all these other
things.
Then, when they had their, nowthey have their own weird
identity.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Who knows what.
It is even classic and herliteral.
And her argument to me aboutwhy she was cutting me off is
because she was a trans femalewith a uterus.
Now that doesn't even fuck.
How can you be a trans femalewith a uterus?
You were born a female andyou've taken zero hormones.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
You've gotten no surgeries now here's the other
thing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Let's be very clear I don't give a shit what you do
that's what I want to get tohere, because I wanted to
straighten out the whole whetheror not I'm transphobic.
No, the day that I found outthat she blocked me on all
social media, I was gettingready to send her a video from a
trans content creator that Ifucking love, who voted for

(01:03:01):
Trump, and I wanted her to haveanother opinion.
And I found out, oops, you'reblocked on all social media, 25
years old and doesn't even havethe balls to come and tell her
mother that she's cutting heroff.
She just lets her find out,right.
So then she throws around theword suicide to me, which pisses
me off, because she knows thatI've experienced that in my

(01:03:22):
lifetime.
If she needs mental help, sheneeds to go get it, but she has
a family who's going to accepther and love her, so they can
take her to get the mental help.
Now, I'm not, but the reasonwhy this pisses me off is
because I watched this kid gofrom wanting to be a journalist,
wanting to be on Broadway, toworking 40 hours a week at a

(01:03:44):
fucking broken down shitholehotel, while her boyfriend does
nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Because he can't do anything, because he's a spoiled
little twink that needed hisass whipped by his dad, which is
why he doesn't have arelationship with his dad,
because his dad probably wantedto whip his ass for the way that
he was being and his momwouldn't let him.
His mom, who is a welfare queenand who has a live-in
pill-popping boyfriend, is allof a sudden mother of the year.

(01:04:11):
If you're a mother of the year,amy, why are they living with
your mother next door and notyou?
Because Daniel doesn't like you.
And the final thing I'm sayingon this is that the reason why
I'm so livid about this isbecause this boy clearly has

(01:04:35):
mental health issues that havebeen swept under the rung for
far too long.
He needs help, and my daughteris never going to get help until
this kid gets help, becauseshe's fucking sucked into his
little sociopathic world andhe's a loser.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Any man, woman, trans , he's a loser.
So it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
But I'm going to end this on a funny note, because I
want to tell this story.
So they're living with Daniel'sgrandmother, who does not know
that he cross dresses as a womanand we were going to a wedding
that Scott was performing theceremony.
Scott was performing theceremony and they know.

(01:05:14):
If they thought that I wastransphobic, do they think that
I would transphobic?
Do they think that I would letthem pull this motherfucking
stunt?
No, somebody walks out onto theporch when we go to pick them
up and I thought it was mydaughter and it was her
boyfriend in a dress to go to awedding with us, a family
wedding, where Scott wasperforming the ceremony.
Didn't say a word.

(01:05:35):
Didn't say a word.
We were like word.
We were like okay, cool,whatever, let's go have fun.
Took pictures of them together.
We did not care, did not caretill this dumb.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
You got to tell it we're standing there and the
whole time he was talking in hislady, answering questions in
his lady voice.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Yes, sir, ah, very nice to meet you and then
somebody asked a question and Idon't remember, yeah we were
talking about the it was aboutit was about the beatles.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
The beatles.
There was some kind of.
I don't know why donovan wastalking about the beatles, but
Donovan bless his heart thestepfather of the bride this
hilarious Jamaican dude fuckingincredible and he just roamed
with it he's just so much fun tobe around.

Speaker 3 (01:06:28):
He's hilarious, he's always a cut up and the whole
time Daniel was talking likethis yes, mr Donovan.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
and then they got talking about the Beatles and
he's like you know, the wholetime Daniel was talking like
this yes, mr Donovan.
And then they got talking aboutthe Beatles and he's like.
You know that John Lennon andPaul McCartney once gave Ringo
Starr a handjob in the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
That's not what he said.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
But that's how he said it.
Though that's how he said it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
Because he forgot that he was in character and he
forgot that he was pretending tobe a female and then donovan
turns around, he looks at me, hegoes.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
I thought that was a woman.
The whole time he said Ithought it was just a really
ugly girl but, and I'm not hereto like, I'm not even.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
No, I'm not being petty, no, I.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
I don't want to go into the look shaming because
that's a whole nother rabbithole that I could go down.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
I will.
He's an ugly fucking broad.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Yeah, he's not going to make a good looking woman,
and so there.
So the problem is that how arethey going to pay for any
surgeries if my daughter isworking a minimum wage job
because she couldn't finishcollege because of him?

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
And now he once asked how to sweep up glass at his
job Right, and he was theso-called maintenance man.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
He's the maintenance man at a hotel and he asked how
to sweep up glass.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
With a fucking broom.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
And I'm transphobic.
No, honey Honey girl, sistergirl, girl darcy is that your
name, darcy?
I'm not transphobic, I'mfucking sociopathic phobic.
That's what I am.
You've spoiled little twink.
Oh but anyway but so that's whyI'll be spending my holidays
from here on out doing all thefun things that I want to do and

(01:08:16):
not taking hours out of my PTOto ferry around two kids that
can't get their shit together.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
Right, which was a big part of every holiday.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Yeah Was because neither of them drive either.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
All right.
People don't want to hear anymore of our worries and troubles
but that brings us into thenext two.
Christmas Christmas.
But that brings us into thenext two episodes.
Two episodes ChristmasChristmas.
The weather outside isfrightful.

Speaker 2 (01:08:45):
And all the craziness that ensues because you can't
spell families.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Without lies.
Yes, that'll be fun.
That is going to be so fun.
I don't want to speak ill ofyour mother on Christmas, but
she's nothing but a commonstreet whore.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
If you can't tell, we love the movie Four Christmases
, so we're going to break thenext two episodes up into Four.
Christmases, two Christmasesapiece, two Christmases apiece.
So all things Christmas.
For the next two episodes.
We're going to keep it fun,lighthearted and funny.
All right, maybe that endingwas a little harsh, since it is
Thanksgiving and hopefully youare listening to this on or

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right around Thanksgiving.
We want you to know that we arethankful for you, our loyal
listeners.
What else are we thankful for,babe?

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
I'm thankful for you.
I'm thankful for theopportunity to do this podcast
to do comedy.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
You I'm thankful for the opportunity to do this
podcast to do comedy, tothankful that we're in a
position in life that we can dothat, meaning that, like we have
good jobs, we have a stablelife yeah, yeah, thankful for
family, obviously friends,everybody's thankful for this
yeah, and of course, I am verythankful for you and all that
you have to endure with mymental illness, because it is a

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challenge and I get that, butyou are with me and stick with
me.
So I'm thankful for that.
Also thankful for all my familyand friends and my extended
family who we are going to beseeing over Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
Goodbye Peace, peace, welcome to Scott's Thoughts.
Scott's Thoughts.
My quote today comes from thegreat author David Sedaris in
his book let's Explore Diabeteswith Alves.
That's right, I promise youthat's real.
But there's a quote in therethat says it's trash, you're

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trash, your whole family's trash.
Now's a good time to rememberthat some of your family members
are trash, but it's okay,because family is family.
You love them, you hate them,you accept them, and that's
Scott's thoughts.