April 9, 2025 • 43 mins
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Courtney, the mutual friend who originally connected Becky and Diana, joins us from Munich to share her unexplainable telekinesis experience. Her story bridges the supernatural with the power of manifestation, showing how intense emotions might literally move objects—and lives—in unexpected directions.
In this episode, we:Â
- Speculate on the neurological basis for Courtney and Diana's telekinesis phenomena,
- Hear about a mysterious (angelic?) encounter at New York's lesbian bar Cubbyhole after another frightening (demonic?) encounter prompted her first visit there,
- Examine manifestation as a way of life—from moving objects with her mind, to moving to another country, Courtney's manifestation game is suspiciously efficacious,
- Develop the signature "Have a Spooky Day" cocktail, to be served at Courtney's new business, Frau Bar, Munich's only dedicated space for the FLINTA community (female, lesbian, intersex, non-binary, transgender, agender).
Please consider supporting or sharing Courtney's crowdfunding campaign to open Frau Bar at https://www.startnext.com/flinta-bar-munich/ds/d/sn-erlebnisse/sn-events/vip-soft-opening-i435890.html.Â
Keep up with developments by following @Frau_Bar_MUC on Instagram or visiting fraubar.de.
Show notes for this episode live at: https://homespunhaints.com/telekinesis_manifestation_in_munich
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
What does manifestation really look like?
Can it be subtle?
Can it be violent?
Can it involve either awell-made cocktail or a bad
glass of wine?
Courtney's life has taken manystrange turns over the last few
decades, but she always lands inthe most unusual, beautiful
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places as a result.
Has she used the power ofmanifestation to influence
outside forces to bend to herwill, or is she merely
telekinetic?
Hear her stories and decide foryourself.
Today, on Homespun Hates.
Warning the following contentis one of our most raw episodes.
(00:48):
Yet.
You will hear unkind slurs inthe context of hate speech that
the participants haveexperienced themselves.
You will also hear rampantmentions of alcohol and diarrhea
.
Listener discretion is advised.
Hello, hainted Loves, welcometo Home Spun Haints.
I'm Becky and I'm Diana, andtoday have we got a surprise for
(01:10):
you?
Oh my goodness.
This is the interview that hasbeen six years in the making.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
It so is.
Remember when everybody, everytime we're interviewed by
somebody, they ask how we met.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
We met through this lady.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Courtney Craig.
This is the connection.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
So years and years ago back in the dark ages in the
swamps of Florida, diana and Iwere friends with this wonderful
person you see sitting herebefore you or listening.
You might hear her gigglingCourtney Craig, calling in all
(01:50):
the way from Munich, germany.
I don't know if I pronouncedthat correctly.
Can anybody pronounce thatcorrectly?
Courtney was my neighbor inFlorida.
She was Diana's friend andclassmate and she connected us
and the rest is history,courtney it is so good to see
you.
Likewise, welcome to the show.
(02:11):
Finally, we finally talked herin.
Like for years we've been likeCourtney, you really need to
come on the show.
She's like I'm too busy doingall my amazing things in Germany
.
Most recently, she is opening abar in Munich called Frau.
If you're watching us now, youcan see her shirt.
What does Flinta mean?
(02:32):
Flinta?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
is an acronym that is used here in Germany, so it
stands for Frauen, lesbien,intersex, non-binary,
transgender and Agender, whichis kind of the same in English,
so without the accent yeah,female, lesbian, intersex,
non-binary, trans and agender.
Okay, so it's a really niceterm that describes queer women,
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but also, you know, those thatwere assigned female at birth,
but also those that choose to befemale later in life.
You know, it's the femaleexperience.
It basically includes everyonebut cis men.
I have a little bit of an issuewith flinta, because the term
is meant to be inclusionary forgender, but the L, lesbian, is
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not gender, it's sexuality.
So it's a bit of an imperfectacronym, but it's very widely
used here and it's somethingthat I really want to use myself
and embrace, because it's veryimportant to me that the space
that I'm creating is inclusiveto people who maybe don't
identify as women but maybe wereborn as female or non-binary
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agender, people as well, arethere a lot of places, a lot of
lesbian bars in Munich there areno lesbian bars in Munich.
There are no bars for queerwomen in Munich.
We have many, many bars forqueer men.
I think it's over eight spacesfor queer men, and some of these
spaces in Munich actually havesigns on the door that say men
only, which is just really wild.
(04:01):
Yeah, there's lots of spacesthat aren't open to us, whether
they have a sign or not.
Even if we come in, it's notwelcoming.
I've heard stories of peoplebeing kicked out.
We do have some communityspaces, but it's really lacking.
So I'm trying to create that?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah.
Do you feel like Munich is anopen and accepting place?
In general, though, yes yes, Ibelieve so.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
We're in a very conservative state here in
Bavaria, but the city of Munichis relatively liberal.
It's long overdue.
We haven't had a space likethis in Munich for 13 years, I
believe.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Whether or not you live in Germany.
Please go and support Courtneyin helping her bring this much
needed space to Munich.
You have a fundraising going onright now.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Right, I've been working on this for about a year
.
I've done so much research andtalked to so many people and
most of the people I've talkedto here have been like the
crowdfunding office, the startupoffice, you know, the bank,
which is all white cis men and Itell them my, my story oh,
imagine, yeah, Surprise.
(05:03):
But I tell them what I'm doingand they're so excited about it
and it's just been shocking tome.
There's no like oh, okay,they're really enthused about it
.
That's awesome.
So I basically already have thebank is like, really excited
about this project.
I just need a location.
So the crowdfunding that I'mdoing right now is to raise some
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money so I can secure a leaseat a location and then I hope
everything else falls in place.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Where can people find your crowdfunding information
so they can?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
donate.
The easiest way to do that ison Instagram.
So it's Frau Bar M-U-C.
You should find me on Instagramand with the link to donate.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Okay, excellent, excellent.
Well, we're going to have linksto that in the description
below and in our show notes.
So if you are interested inhelping courtney, support this
space.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Even just a few euros would go a long way and then
next time you go to oktoberfestyou'll have a place to hang out
exactly that's very importantactually.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah, so munich is one of the safest cities in
Germany, but during Oktoberfestit becomes really dangerous,
particularly for women, and Idon't understand why the city
doesn't do more to make us feelsafe during this time.
It's a terrible time.
I hate it.
I never leave my house duringOktoberfest time, but you know,
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having a space like this whereduring that time, I think, is
really, really important.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Wow.
So as a cis straight woman,would I be welcome there, would
I be comfortable there?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
You're the F Becky?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Oh, that's right, I'm the frow, I get it, I get it
Cool, the F in Flinta, yesinta,yes all right.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Well, we're here to talk about ghost stories and I
heard from a little birdie thatyou have one.
Are you calling?
Little, I'm so much bigger thanyou I can't get your pants on
and all of our photo shoots Ihave to stand on a box, at least
not like a foot shorter thanDiana.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
We were trying to use a Ouija board in a cemetery for
a photo shoot Because,respectfully, just watching
Becky trying to sit up straightwhile reaching the Ouija board,
it's like let me here, let me,let me do the leaning for you.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
It didn't help that a friggin ghost kept moving the
planchette while we were doing.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Isn't that what?
Speaker 1 (07:23):
it's for oh, so rude.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
No freaking ghost kept moving the planchette while
we were doing, isn't that?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
what it's for.
Oh so rude.
No, not while we'rephotographing, okay, anyway.
Sorry, not about us speakspeaking of ghosts and
cemeteries.
I don't have anything to add tothat, but I will tell you that
I have the power of telekinesisjealous well, of course we're
jealous, that's yes.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
This course we're jealous, that's yes.
This is why we're listening tothe interview.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Okay, all right to Courtney.
What Wait?
Why did I not know this?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I've known you how many why did you not know this
about me?
Yeah, we've known each other along time.
Well, it's a surprise to mebecause I don't.
I don't believe in this stuff.
Yeah, I'm like very scienceminded and very skeptical about
all of this, and this incidentmakes no sense to me, even to
this day, and it really bothersme.
(08:11):
So maybe talking about it withyou will make me feel better
about it somehow.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Okay, I'm certain that's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Oh man, I had a rough day.
What happened, honey?
I was out with the guys andthey and they said I wasn't
spooky enough.
Oh honey, how could they saythat to you?
You're hella spooky.
You think so, of course.
After all, you came up with theectoplasm being ghost jizz
theory and you've been scratchedby more horny ghosts than
anyone else.
I know, Well, I suppose you'reright, but if you're really
(08:42):
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(09:35):
Cause I can't, I can't explainit, all right, so start at the
beginning.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
So I was in London, one of my favorite cities on the
planet.
I used to go every year for aconference and I would stay
extra because I loved it so muchand I would go out and just
enjoy the city.
On this particular trip, though, I was going through some
things in my personal life I wasgoing through a recent breakup
with my girlfriend.
I was going through a recentbreakup with my girlfriend and I
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was really wishing that shewere there with me to have these
experiences with me in thiswonderful city of London.
So you probably need somebackground on the girlfriend to
understand the story.
I think we do.
(10:40):
All of its own.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Diana dressed as Jim Jones for Halloween when she was
here a few years ago.
Anyway, it was like a crossbetween Jim Jones and Manson.
I mean, take your pick.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I almost got your cat to drink the Kool-Aid.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
All right, anyway, sorry, courtney.
So so, jim Jones, yes.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
The second thing is known for is delicious,
delicious rum, particularlyEldorado rum.
Have you tried it, eldorado?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I'm allergic to rum.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I remember that.
I don't know if.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I've tried it, but I bet I have.
So here I am in London with mybroken heart, thinking about my
ex-girlfriend who's in New YorkCity and we used to always drink
Eldorado rum in one of ourfavorite cocktails Dark and
Stormy Ginger beer, rum and lime.
It's a nice spicy little, andlime.
It's a nice spicy littlecocktail.
It's a.
It's a cocktail I plan to servein my bar.
Actually it's a reallyrefreshing, nice cocktail, maybe
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with eldorado rum.
I haven't considered that yet,but I think I should use
eldorado rum.
It's one of the best rums.
What I used to do when I went tolondon I was there by myself, I
had a conference during the dayand in the evening i'd'd like
to explore the city, find littleplaces to hop in for food and
really nice cocktail bars,because London has really,
really nice cocktail bars.
(11:53):
I found myself in a fancierkind of upscale cocktail bar,
you know, because it wasrecommended by a place that I
had dinner at, I think, and Iwas really feeling sad, really
really sad, sitting at the barby myself with a very, very
strong cocktail and just in myown thoughts, pining for my
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ex-girlfriend all the way acrossthe pond, wishing she were
there.
I look up at the bar and it's abar with like two or three
shelves and the bottle of ElDorado was on the second shelf
and it was not on the edge ofthe shelf.
You know, all the bottles werelined up in the middle or in the
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back of the shelf.
But I saw that El Dorado and Ijust it like really hit me how
much I missed her and made methink of her.
I wanted her to be there and toshare this moment with me.
It was so lonely, exploring thiswonderful city all alone,
because it's something that Iknow we would enjoy so much, and
I don't know, something in mybrain, in my heart, in my whole,
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being the next thing I know,the bottle of rum jumped off the
shelf, jumped.
It was so dramatic that thebartender jumped up and flipped
around, looked right at me andwas like what, what was that?
(13:25):
Like this wasn't precariouslyon the edge of the shelf, it was
nowhere near the edge, it justflew off the shelf.
The second shelf flew off theshelf the second shelf, mind you
and it did not break when ithit the ground.
Whoa, okay, it kind of bouncedon the floor and then sit there
and the bartender and I this wasa full bar and the bartender
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and I just locked eyes and wewere just like what just
happened.
And he picked it back up and heput it back on the shelf and I
in my mind, I'm thinking, Imoved that bottle with my mind
Because I'm thinking so stronglyabout this person and these
memories and that this placethat I've never been to, that I
always wanted to go.
(14:08):
And there's the rum from thiscountry and it just flies off
the shelf and afterward I tellthe bartender hey, I'm going to
have some of that.
So pour me some, because I hadto drink it obviously yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
If you love something , let it go, and if it jumps off
the shelf and comes back to you, drink it, oh my goodness.
So how does it feel to havetelekinesis?
We need to know.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I kind of think you know you hear these stories
about moms lifting up cars offof their children.
You know like in these momentsof extreme emotion that's
explicable.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Oh, but that's just adrenaline.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
I was feeling like extreme emotion in this, in this
time, and I felt like sometimesI felt like my brain was
connecting to her brain acrossthe pond and in that moment I
don't know I was just like thisextreme feeling and then I moved
the bottle with my mind Like Ican't explain it to this day.
I told her this story and shewas also pretty freaked out.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
She has no explanation either.
There's a really good line inthe fictional TV show Evil,
which is obviously where I getmy gospel from that.
Science is perfect for definingand studying repeatable
phenomena, and this phenomenonis not repeatable.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
No, it could be testable.
So, Courtney, next time you'rein London you need to go to that
same bar and try and dig upthose same feelings and see if
it happens again.
And try and dig up those samefeelings and see if it happens
again.
It's not going to happen again.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Becky, you can't just feel the feeling of being
broken up with, Like that's notlike.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
You got to remember it, you can recall.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
You're pretty emo, I bet you could.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I feel it often, actually with this one.
No, there's a little bit moreto this, though.
So I left the bar and I wastaking the train back to my
Airbnb.
There was a busker in thesubway and the busker was
playing only Bob Marley songs.
As I was walking by, he wasplaying Three Little Birds,
which was like our song.
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Bob Marley's like our favorite,particularly this song.
It was always our song, likeit's like a very important.
Bob Marley's like our favorite,particularly this song.
It was like always the song.
So I felt like she was therethe whole time.
It's like I can't escape, youknow.
So I see this busker playingThree Little Birds and I think
in that moment I broke down likeand just started crying because
I'm like this is weird.
This is really strange.
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You know this person who Ihaven't spoken to for a long
time and who's all the wayacross the ocean and who seems
to be like with me, like messingwith me, knocking bottles off
shelves and making people playyour favorite song, and that I
encounter on my way.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
It was very strange well, you said it was like she
was messing with you, but in away you were wishing really hard
that she was with you.
So in a way was it like youwere actually manifesting that
by hearing her songs, seeing herrum jump out at you.
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There may have even been otherlittle things that happened that
you didn't even notice thatwould indicate she was actually
there in spirit in a way.
Who?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
knows True.
True, I manifested it with thisextreme emotion that I have.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I bet if you sit and rack your brain, you're going to
be able to start seeing someother coincidences and things
like this that really indicatethat you have some superpowers.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
It's entirely possible.
I have a lot of strange thingsthat do happen to me.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I think, just looking at your life and everything
you've done, I mean, my gosh,you have manifested so much.
It is so fucking hard to likebe like I'm going to move to
Germany, I'm going to learnGerman and move to Germany.
And you, you did it, holy shit.
Not only I'm going to move toGermany, but like I'm going to
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be in a position in Germanywhere I can like work for myself
and have my own business andnot have to be on like some sort
of green card from a company.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I mean, could learn some things from you and as far
as I know, you're pretty muchthe unifying force behind the
community that's going to bepatronizing Frow Bar.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yes, genau, as we say genau, yes.
I moved here wanting a queercommunity and I didn't really
have one.
Then I found one in Munich, aninternational queer women's
meetup, and yeah, then Ieventually became a leader of
this group and we have over athousand members in this group.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Looking at your timeline, you had this
incredible paranormal experiencewith telekinesis and now we're
coming full circle.
So this story took place in abar.
Now you're building a bar.
Do you think that there was anyway that this one event was
influencing you in some way andadjusting the course of your
(19:08):
life?
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Probably because I've spent a lot of time in bars, I
really enjoy cocktail culture,cocktail making.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Do you think that because you have so much synergy
with these spaces that it hadsomething to do with being in a
bar that allowed you to, I guess, access and tap into this part
of your mind that allowed you tomove this bottle?
Probably because I really feelcomfortable in these spaces
allowed you to move this bottle,probably because I really feel
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comfortable in these spaces.
Okay, well, I bring that upbecause I'm wondering.
I would love for you to staytuned with us and let us know if
, while you're in this space anddevoting so much energy to
building it and creating it, andall the emotions and everything
you're feeling in a cocktailbar that is your own, if you
start to develop more of thesethings, if you start noticing
(20:02):
more bottles moving off theshelf, maybe you'll be preparing
a cocktail and the bottle willbrain works.
You might have suspected thatCourtney Courtney is a very,
very, very educated woman.
What do you think would be thelike physiological explanation
(20:23):
for telekinesis or telepathy?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Oh, that's a tough question Because it's also tied
with emotion, right?
So I think amygdala certainlyamygdala is like the lizard
primitive brain, where we havekind of primitive responses like
deep emotions and fear I thinkthat's probably central to it
and also have to haveconnections to motor complexes
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in the brain to be able to havethe movement aspect of it.
I don't know, I haven't lookedup the neuroscience of
telekinesis.
I'll do that on PubMed oncewe're done here today.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, let us know, cite your sources.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
If you think about it .
Okay, I want to speculate herebecause I love you mentioned the
motor cortex portion of it andthe amygdala.
I never really thought aboutthe emotional part of it before,
but that makes a lot of sense.
(21:30):
And then, for people that arein a way connected to their
third eye or the energies or thevibes, maybe it just has to do
with because, like theconnections went AWOL, like I
think here in this part of mybrain, here that's like next to
my cheek, which yeah.
I've been told it's like righthere, right here, apparently,
there's some like extradendrites going on there that
cause me to see color when Ihear numbers and stuff like that
(21:51):
.
So maybe it's just a matter oflike, just like little forming
in the wrong places of the brain, or the right places of the
brain, and allowing those thingsto connect together.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
It's got to have something to do with the
semifield too, because, remember, you said you're connected
across the seas in your head.
I feel that connection topeople's heads.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Like there's a cerebral EMF field Like that's
heads, yeah, Like there's acerebral EMF field Like that's
redundant when you get closeenough to somebody and your semi
fields cross.
I think that does havesomething to do with the way we
communicate with each other,whether you call it telekinesis,
telepathy or whatever.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I've never shared this with anybody and this may
get cut, but I had.
But I had this experience oncethat I really thought I was like
connected to the brain of thisguy.
I met him in a bar.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
How appropriate for this story.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Back when I lived in Chicago, obviously before I met
my husband met this guy in a barand we went out, whatever.
The next night I was thinkingabout him because I really liked
him.
I was like, oh, this guy's kindof hot and I remember him
talking about how he had likereally bad IBS.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
That is something I use as a pickup line every
weekend.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
So the next night I'm thinking about him, I'm
thinking about him and I gotlike really sick to my stomach.
It was weird, but it felt likeit wasn't me, I don't know.
I was like this is his stomachissue.
I'm having his stomach issueand it was like a rough night.
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Let me tell you and I mean Istill remember being like why is
he doing this to?
me you know, I don't think herealized it, but I was just like
, ah, I really, you know, and Ijust kept feeling like it was
him and, of course, being thelike weirdo kid that I was, I
was like, wow, it was a magicalconnection.
(23:49):
Diarrhea, yay.
So I called him the next dayand I was like, hey, something
happened last night.
And he's like, oh, and I'm like, were you thinking about me?
And I kept trying to like,because I didn't want to be like
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did you have diarrhea?
At the same time I had diarrhea, you know, it wasn't like.
I think there's a connection.
Like I said, it was one ofthose things where, if it had
not, if I had not felt like thiswas him, like I would have
never brought up, you know,because I was just, it was such
a weird feeling.
I was like this is him.
(24:32):
But like you know, and ofcourse, whatever, it's weird to
even be like, oh, kind of cool,we have a mental connection
through our bells.
Um, anyway, so I kept tryingthe enteric nervous system,
right, apparently I kept tryingto like hint, hint, hint, but he
was not having it.
So I was like, well, all right,well, clearly, that wasn't what
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I or you didn't realize youwere passing your problems on to
me, so we promptly broke up.
But it was, it was.
It obviously still stays withme because it felt so real.
I can't believe.
I just shared that.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Becky, the microbiome is contagious.
It is, you think.
I caught his IBS Stuff likebslike that depends on how dirty
he was and what you put in yourmouth, because maybe yeah, I
don't want to share that withmyself I did not catch any
(25:30):
diseases, uh, gut related orotherwise from anybody I met in
a bar in a paranormal manner orotherwise.
However, I do have a little bitof a telekinesis story.
Oh, I don't have any idea ofthe context of the story because
I think it happened when I wasabout six or seven, um, but we
were watching.
It was christmas, we werewatching, so there's a little
(25:52):
context.
It was christmas time, themagic of christmas.
We were watching santa clausthe movie.
It's a very magical movie,right?
Isn't that the one with?
With the puce pops?
What that crazy?
I don't know.
Santa claus the movie.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
If you know, you know I don't, uh, but anyway, I
think you're making this up,yeah it's not, it's, I swear
it's this thing Anyway.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
So we're watching this movie about Santa Claus
Whatever that was and I gottired of it and my thought was I
need a remote to turn off theTV.
Pow, is what I did, orsomething like that, and TV
turned off.
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Ta-da.
That's another example oftelekinesis.
That's another example becausenobody had the remote.
I looked for the remote.
This is back when each TV onlyhad one single remote and if you
lost it you were fucked.
So I looked for it, found it,like on the other half of the
king size bed from where I was.
Nobody was pointing at the IRsensor through the mirror from
the other room or anything likethat.
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So that made me feel reallyspecial for quite a while.
I was like seven and it hasn'thappened to me as an adult.
I just thought of another story.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Actually, that's really good.
I knew you would.
Yeah, I forgot about this, thisone.
This one is also wild and Idon't know what, how to describe
it, but uh, it's a bit angelic,I don't know, like it's not so
much the telekinesis power, butso I lived in new york city for
many, many years and I basicallygrew up and came come of age
(27:33):
even though it was a little latein life at the Cubbyhole, which
is the iconic lesbian bar inNew York City.
It's where everybody goes.
It's right there near Stonewallwhere the riots took place.
It is a legendary place andeverybody has a story from
Cubbyhole.
Everybody, except maybe you two, don't have a story from
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Cubbyhole, and I'll actuallytell you how I got to Cubbyhole
in the first place, because thiswas also a bit terrifying.
So I came out later in life.
I wasn't quite sure about myqueerness yet and my whole life
got turned upside down becausemy relationship of 10 years with
a man like disappearedovernight and I it was one of
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the worst things I've everexperienced in my life and I was
really struggling with what todo next.
And I was on the streets in NewYork City waiting for the light
to change.
And there have you all seen themovie Mulholland Drive.
I know your listeners haveprobably seen Mulho.
Mulholland Drive it's one of myfavorite movies.
(28:37):
Well, you're a David Lynchaficionado, so of course it is
Absolutely there's a scene inMulholland Drive where they're
at the diner and they go behindthe dumpster at the diner and
this person comes out andthey're so terrifying that the
actor drops dead from fright.
Do you remember the scene?
Yeah, so I'm waiting for thelight to change and a woman,
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who's a homeless woman, wholooks just like the person
behind the dumpster andMulholland drive, is digging
through the trash while I'mwaiting for the light to change
for an intersection.
It's about a four lane road Iwant to cross.
I'm waiting for the light tochange for an intersection.
It's about a four lane road Iwant to cross.
I'm waiting, waiting, waiting.
The woman sees me and shestarts talking to me and I can't
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really make out what she'ssaying.
She's very, not mentally well,obviously very, very uncapped
and terrifying, looking likereminding me of Winkies and
Mulholland Drive.
And then, all of a sudden, shelunges at me and starts calling
me a dyke, starts cursing at meand I'm like whoa and the next
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thing I know she pushes mereally hard.
She's smaller than I am, butshe really, really hit me and
pushed me into traffic beforethe light had changed and I just
was like what.
You know, I'm like what?
And then she comes runningafter me and the traffic is
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still coming and I have to runacross these four lanes of
highway and hopefully I don'tget hit by a car because this
woman is chasing me in thestreet and I finally run away
from her, thinking she's goingto stab me with a shiv or
something, and I just go homeand I'm like what just happened?
I've never been called a dykebefore.
Is that what I am?
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And it was such a strange,strange thing for me to
experience.
It was really quite frightening.
Um, especially in this time inmy life, I'm trying to figure
out exactly what I'm doing and,yeah, what is my sexuality?
I was very confused about it.
I wasn't out to myself yet andthen I had this horrifying
experience.
So after a few weeks, I I'mlike online.
(30:57):
I'm like let me go to a lesbianbar.
I've never been to one before.
And what comes up?
Number one on Google thecubbyhole, the iconic bar in New
York City.
And I wasn't out to anybody.
I know I wasn't out to you.
I wasn't, I don't think, out toanybody.
I wasn't even out to myself.
I didn't have anyone to talk to.
I went there by myself afterthis experience, trying to like
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understand everything.
And I walked in this bar and itwas kind of early in the
afternoon and it wasn't verycrowded and there were just
regular people sitting at thebar having a beer, eating a
pizza, and I was terrified,terrified, so terrified, and I'm
sitting there like shaking,drinking a really bad glass of
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wine.
Do not drink wine at cubby hallnoted terrible idea.
Then everyone came and talked tome and it was so great.
I was just like what, what?
What is this place?
This doesn't happen in otherbars I've ever been to.
And all of these women who areregulars in the space, um, just
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really noticed, I guess, how outof place and afraid I was and
they just kind of took me in andasked me my story or talking to
me, and it really really helpedand I kept going back and I
kept going back and I went backalmost every weekend and I have
so many stories from Cubby Hole,but one that was particularly
strange.
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One night I was sitting at thebar with a friend of mine who
now lives in Munich, believe itor not, Manifestation,
Manifesting it again.
And the bar was packed thatnight and her and I were just
sitting at the bar like thisbecause it was very crowded, and
then all of a sudden thisbeautiful girl comes behind us
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and it's this was like a slowmotion event, like in the in the
movies, and we both turn asshe's going out because it's
very close.
You know we're bumping intoeach other on the way out and
she touches me on the face likethis as she's going by and slow
motion.
(33:08):
I turn my head as her hand isholding my cheek, as she walks
by and out the door and myfriend and I look at each other
and we're like what, what thehell is that?
And my friend's like you haveto go after her.
And I was like yeah, of courseI do, and I get up and I go out
and she's gone, she's not thereanymore.
(33:31):
It was like this angelic slowmotion moment with this
beautiful woman's hand like onmy cheek, cheek just walking
past.
It was.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Whoa, but your friend saw her too Nice.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Yeah, oh yes, yes, she was seen by all.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Not an apparition.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
But you were the only person that she caressed.
Yes, yes, I wanted to saygroped, but I'm'm like that's
not quite the same caresseddrive wow, okay, so do you, and
you, I mean the way you said it.
It's almost like everythingwent silent.
(34:10):
Was she glowing?
Yeah, wow.
Do you think that that was likesome sort of hair started
blowing backwards?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Yeah kind of yeah, it was really.
You have these moments in yourlife where, like in the movies,
when things do kind of slow downsomehow and your mind processes
them in slow motion.
That was definitely that moment.
It was so strange, but myfriend and I both experienced it
at that pace, I think, whichwas also really interesting.
So maybe our minds wereconnected by the semi-fielder.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
See, this is another scenario in which I had the same
experience, but as a child.
Guys, it's like you're friendsor something.
Not the bar part, not the barpart the being shoved and called
a, a homo.
What was it called?
I was called a fag, actually,which is.
I was called the dyke yeah yeah, like not accurate at all I
know, get your slurs right I wasvery, very cis female at the
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time, so I don't know why, butyeah, I thought I was too.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
I thought I was too.
So that's really strange tohear.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, so yeah, I think it was somewhere between
eight and 10.
Somebody randomly approached mein the cafeteria and said I
heard you were talking about me.
I said who are you?
Because I have face blindness,I had no clue who this person
was.
And she said I heard you calledme a faggot.
You're a faggot.
She threw me into a trash can.
It was very intense and ofcourse I was like eight, nine.
(35:39):
I didn't have any concept ofwhat the hell she meant.
I was a child.
I had no idea what she meant.
And then it happened again likea year later and then you know.
Now I know what they meant.
But yeah, it was a reallyconfusing situation, like how
did this bully know before I did?
We've had a few guests on theshow who have had the same story
(36:02):
.
How do the bullies know beforewe do?
Speaker 1 (36:06):
But you didn't have the angel experience, did you?
Speaker 2 (36:09):
No, I was just shoved into a trash.
Can I did not get caressed byslow-mo angel woman afterwards?
Unfortunately, nobody came tomy rescue.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I just went in the bathroom and cried well, those
are the things that will nothappen at frow.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Well, maybe the angel might but well, I mean,
everyone has a story.
I think it's so great, you know, and we don't really have a
place like this here now.
So many stories at Cubbyholeand I want to basically
transplant the Cubbyhole vibeand the Cubbyhole experience
here and hopefully it will work,but it's very different than
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what we have already.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Well, getting back to the angel lady, do you think
that she was something like?
What do you think she was?
Do you think she was some kindof heavenly being?
Do you think she was yourspirit guide?
Do you think she was some kindof heavenly being?
Do you think she was yourspirit guide?
Do you think she was just aghost, even Like?
Do you have any ideas of whatshe could have been?
Speaker 3 (37:05):
The thing about Cubbyhole also is you always
kind of see the same people.
I mean, I think that's true forany queer space, so it's a very
small kind of world even in NewYork City.
But this girl I had never, everseen before and I never saw
again.
And it was so strange.
I went right out the door afterher and she wasn't there.
And it's not like you can justhop into a cab like right out
(37:25):
front of the door.
That's not how New York Cityworks.
You have to look for a cab.
I looked everywhere, I think Ieven walked like a block in each
direction to see if I couldfind her and she just vanished.
So and I never saw her thereagain.
But I kept going because it'slike wow, I want to meet this
person again.
And I never found her again.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
No, I mean, what do you think she was?
Who do you think she was?
Speaker 3 (37:46):
She could, that she could have been the love of my
life.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Well, if that's the case, then she'll come back.
Maybe she was a vision you werehaving of somebody you'll meet
in the future.
Then she'll come back.
Maybe she was a vision you werehaving of somebody you'll meet
in the future.
Maybe, maybe I remember after Ihad gotten out of like a
terrible four-year relationship,I was an absolute mess
wandering aimlessly through thestreets of Chicago, crying, and
I had a vision of what my futuresoulmate would look like.
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And I met him six months laterand we're still married.
So damn.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
In that city Did you pass by him subconsciously, pick
up his image.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
No, I just closed my eyes and I saw him.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Romantic and spooky it is.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
It makes you wonder about things like fate.
And you know, it was kind ofalso an interesting thing about
Alex and I.
We both haunted the same barsand cafes and had the same
friends, even like well, notfriends but acquaintances for
years before we met.
But like, for instance, there'sthis coffee shop that he and I
(38:52):
were both regulars at.
I went in the morning, he wentin the evening, so for years we
were like these two ships and itwas like it was like time and
fate were waiting till we'reboth ready.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
It's like when you walk the dog and they sniff all
the pee spots and then leave aleave.
A little pee, yes.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
That's what you guys were doing.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
It's exactly like that.
You guys were just leaving eachother scent markings all over
town until you found each other.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Our first date was really interesting because we
kept running into people thatknew both of us.
Like, oh, hey guys, we didn'tknow you knew each other.
We're like we don't.
This is our first.
It was weird and random and itwas like in Chicago, right,
that's why you live in a bigcity, so you don't have to run
into people, you know.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Yeah, you'd think so, but it happens all the time.
When I, when I lived in NewYork, one time, I was hailing a
cab and the cab stopped and thepeople that got out of the cab
were my friends and I got in thecab after them.
It's like there's millions ofpeople in the city.
Yeah, and that happens all thetime.
Actually, it's really reallyweird.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah Well, for anybody listening, I think that
this is proof that you can doanything.
You can move rum with your mind.
You can move to another country, you can start a movement, a
bar, a community in a completelydifferent part of the world if
you so choose.
You just have to have the wishand the will and the emotion.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
And if you choose not to soon, you'll be able to just
visit Frau Bar no commitment.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, it's very exciting.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Do you have a website you want to share with us,
courtney, before we close thisout, yeah, so the website is
fraubarde.
Okay, d-e for Deutschland.
And for those of you that don'tknow how to spell Frau, it is
F-R-A-U.
No umlauts this time.
Yeah, just remember that theA-U makes the ow ow, ow sound in
(40:46):
.
Uh, where's the ow ow ow?
Sorry, was that inappropriate?
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Yes, this is how Americans learn German.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
I'm going to make a custom cocktail called have a
Spooky Day.
It won't be on the menu, but ifpeople order it, you'll know.
You want to develop a drink formy bar?
We can do that.
Let's do it.
Let's do it together.
What do you think would be in a?
Have a Spooky Day?
Squid ink, Squid ink, Squid ink.
Creme de violette, chambord andbombay I like to drink that
(41:22):
Something juniper-y.
Yeah, that sounds good Like anedible pansy.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Ooh, that would be good.
You could do some black saltaround the rim though.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
That would go well with the squid ink too Like that
little brainy.
You know I have all of theseingredients in my kitchen.
Right now I want to brainy.
You know I have all of theseingredients in my kitchen right
now.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
I want to make this.
You have squid ink.
Yes, I can't wait until youopen Frowl Bar.
I can't wait until you make thehave a Spooky Day drink with
the squid ink.
Yeah, you're going to come tothe bar and you're going to
drink it with me.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
I'll make it for you.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Okay, that sounds good.
Again, your website is frowlbar.
People can find you onInstagram at FrauBarMUC on
Instagram.
They can find out about yourfundraising campaigns there and
we'll have links to all of thatin our show notes.
Thank you for coming on theshow.
Yes, it's amazing, thank you.
Can you say have a spooky dayin German for us?
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Okay, well, hainted Loves, what do you think If you
were drinking in the only Flintabar in Munich and a bottle
jumped off the shelf at you?
Would you order a dark andstormy, or would you have a
spooky day?
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Viel SpaĂź beim Gruseln.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
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What does manifestation really look like?
Can it be subtle?
Can it be violent?
Can it involve either awell-made cocktail or a bad
glass of wine?
Courtney's life has taken manystrange turns over the last few
decades, but she always lands inthe most unusual, beautiful
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places as a result.
Has she used the power ofmanifestation to influence
outside forces to bend to herwill, or is she merely
telekinetic?
Hear her stories and decide foryourself.
Today, on Homespun Hates.
Warning the following contentis one of our most raw episodes.
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Yet.
You will hear unkind slurs inthe context of hate speech that
the participants haveexperienced themselves.
You will also hear rampantmentions of alcohol and diarrhea
.
Listener discretion is advised.
Hello, hainted Loves, welcometo Home Spun Haints.
I'm Becky and I'm Diana, andtoday have we got a surprise for
(01:10):
you?
Oh my goodness.
This is the interview that hasbeen six years in the making.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
It so is.
Remember when everybody, everytime we're interviewed by
somebody, they ask how we met.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
We met through this lady.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Courtney Craig.
This is the connection.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
So years and years ago back in the dark ages in the
swamps of Florida, diana and Iwere friends with this wonderful
person you see sitting herebefore you or listening.
You might hear her gigglingCourtney Craig, calling in all
(01:50):
the way from Munich, germany.
I don't know if I pronouncedthat correctly.
Can anybody pronounce thatcorrectly?
Courtney was my neighbor inFlorida.
She was Diana's friend andclassmate and she connected us
and the rest is history,courtney it is so good to see
you.
Likewise, welcome to the show.
(02:11):
Finally, we finally talked herin.
Like for years we've been likeCourtney, you really need to
come on the show.
She's like I'm too busy doingall my amazing things in Germany
.
Most recently, she is opening abar in Munich called Frau.
If you're watching us now, youcan see her shirt.
What does Flinta mean?
(02:32):
Flinta?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
is an acronym that is used here in Germany, so it
stands for Frauen, lesbien,intersex, non-binary,
transgender and Agender, whichis kind of the same in English,
so without the accent yeah,female, lesbian, intersex,
non-binary, trans and agender.
Okay, so it's a really niceterm that describes queer women,
(02:56):
but also, you know, those thatwere assigned female at birth,
but also those that choose to befemale later in life.
You know, it's the femaleexperience.
It basically includes everyonebut cis men.
I have a little bit of an issuewith flinta, because the term
is meant to be inclusionary forgender, but the L, lesbian, is
(03:18):
not gender, it's sexuality.
So it's a bit of an imperfectacronym, but it's very widely
used here and it's somethingthat I really want to use myself
and embrace, because it's veryimportant to me that the space
that I'm creating is inclusiveto people who maybe don't
identify as women but maybe wereborn as female or non-binary
(03:40):
agender, people as well, arethere a lot of places, a lot of
lesbian bars in Munich there areno lesbian bars in Munich.
There are no bars for queerwomen in Munich.
We have many, many bars forqueer men.
I think it's over eight spacesfor queer men, and some of these
spaces in Munich actually havesigns on the door that say men
only, which is just really wild.
(04:01):
Yeah, there's lots of spacesthat aren't open to us, whether
they have a sign or not.
Even if we come in, it's notwelcoming.
I've heard stories of peoplebeing kicked out.
We do have some communityspaces, but it's really lacking.
So I'm trying to create that?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah.
Do you feel like Munich is anopen and accepting place?
In general, though, yes yes, Ibelieve so.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
We're in a very conservative state here in
Bavaria, but the city of Munichis relatively liberal.
It's long overdue.
We haven't had a space likethis in Munich for 13 years, I
believe.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Whether or not you live in Germany.
Please go and support Courtneyin helping her bring this much
needed space to Munich.
You have a fundraising going onright now.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Right, I've been working on this for about a year
.
I've done so much research andtalked to so many people and
most of the people I've talkedto here have been like the
crowdfunding office, the startupoffice, you know, the bank,
which is all white cis men and Itell them my, my story oh,
imagine, yeah, Surprise.
(05:03):
But I tell them what I'm doingand they're so excited about it
and it's just been shocking tome.
There's no like oh, okay,they're really enthused about it
.
That's awesome.
So I basically already have thebank is like, really excited
about this project.
I just need a location.
So the crowdfunding that I'mdoing right now is to raise some
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money so I can secure a leaseat a location and then I hope
everything else falls in place.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Where can people find your crowdfunding information
so they can?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
donate.
The easiest way to do that ison Instagram.
So it's Frau Bar M-U-C.
You should find me on Instagramand with the link to donate.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Okay, excellent, excellent.
Well, we're going to have linksto that in the description
below and in our show notes.
So if you are interested inhelping courtney, support this
space.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Even just a few euros would go a long way and then
next time you go to oktoberfestyou'll have a place to hang out
exactly that's very importantactually.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah, so munich is one of the safest cities in
Germany, but during Oktoberfestit becomes really dangerous,
particularly for women, and Idon't understand why the city
doesn't do more to make us feelsafe during this time.
It's a terrible time.
I hate it.
I never leave my house duringOktoberfest time, but you know,
(06:23):
having a space like this whereduring that time, I think, is
really, really important.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Wow.
So as a cis straight woman,would I be welcome there, would
I be comfortable there?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
You're the F Becky?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Oh, that's right, I'm the frow, I get it, I get it
Cool, the F in Flinta, yesinta,yes all right.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Well, we're here to talk about ghost stories and I
heard from a little birdie thatyou have one.
Are you calling?
Little, I'm so much bigger thanyou I can't get your pants on
and all of our photo shoots Ihave to stand on a box, at least
not like a foot shorter thanDiana.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
We were trying to use a Ouija board in a cemetery for
a photo shoot Because,respectfully, just watching
Becky trying to sit up straightwhile reaching the Ouija board,
it's like let me here, let me,let me do the leaning for you.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
It didn't help that a friggin ghost kept moving the
planchette while we were doing.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Isn't that what?
Speaker 1 (07:23):
it's for oh, so rude.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
No freaking ghost kept moving the planchette while
we were doing, isn't that?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
what it's for.
Oh so rude.
No, not while we'rephotographing, okay, anyway.
Sorry, not about us speakspeaking of ghosts and
cemeteries.
I don't have anything to add tothat, but I will tell you that
I have the power of telekinesisjealous well, of course we're
jealous, that's yes.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
This course we're jealous, that's yes.
This is why we're listening tothe interview.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Okay, all right to Courtney.
What Wait?
Why did I not know this?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
I've known you how many why did you not know this
about me?
Yeah, we've known each other along time.
Well, it's a surprise to mebecause I don't.
I don't believe in this stuff.
Yeah, I'm like very scienceminded and very skeptical about
all of this, and this incidentmakes no sense to me, even to
this day, and it really bothersme.
(08:11):
So maybe talking about it withyou will make me feel better
about it somehow.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Okay, I'm certain that's going to happen.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Oh man, I had a rough day.
What happened, honey?
I was out with the guys andthey and they said I wasn't
spooky enough.
Oh honey, how could they saythat to you?
You're hella spooky.
You think so, of course.
After all, you came up with theectoplasm being ghost jizz
theory and you've been scratchedby more horny ghosts than
anyone else.
I know, Well, I suppose you'reright, but if you're really
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Cause I can't, I can't explainit, all right, so start at the
beginning.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
So I was in London, one of my favorite cities on the
planet.
I used to go every year for aconference and I would stay
extra because I loved it so muchand I would go out and just
enjoy the city.
On this particular trip, though, I was going through some
things in my personal life I wasgoing through a recent breakup
with my girlfriend.
I was going through a recentbreakup with my girlfriend and I
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was really wishing that shewere there with me to have these
experiences with me in thiswonderful city of London.
So you probably need somebackground on the girlfriend to
understand the story.
I think we do.
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All of its own.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Diana dressed as Jim Jones for Halloween when she was
here a few years ago.
Anyway, it was like a crossbetween Jim Jones and Manson.
I mean, take your pick.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I almost got your cat to drink the Kool-Aid.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
All right, anyway, sorry, courtney.
So so, jim Jones, yes.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
The second thing is known for is delicious,
delicious rum, particularlyEldorado rum.
Have you tried it, eldorado?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I'm allergic to rum.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I remember that.
I don't know if.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
I've tried it, but I bet I have.
So here I am in London with mybroken heart, thinking about my
ex-girlfriend who's in New YorkCity and we used to always drink
Eldorado rum in one of ourfavorite cocktails Dark and
Stormy Ginger beer, rum and lime.
It's a nice spicy little, andlime.
It's a nice spicy littlecocktail.
It's a.
It's a cocktail I plan to servein my bar.
Actually it's a reallyrefreshing, nice cocktail, maybe
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with eldorado rum.
I haven't considered that yet,but I think I should use
eldorado rum.
It's one of the best rums.
What I used to do when I went tolondon I was there by myself, I
had a conference during the dayand in the evening i'd'd like
to explore the city, find littleplaces to hop in for food and
really nice cocktail bars,because London has really,
really nice cocktail bars.
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I found myself in a fancierkind of upscale cocktail bar,
you know, because it wasrecommended by a place that I
had dinner at, I think, and Iwas really feeling sad, really
really sad, sitting at the barby myself with a very, very
strong cocktail and just in myown thoughts, pining for my
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ex-girlfriend all the way acrossthe pond, wishing she were
there.
I look up at the bar and it's abar with like two or three
shelves and the bottle of ElDorado was on the second shelf
and it was not on the edge ofthe shelf.
You know, all the bottles werelined up in the middle or in the
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back of the shelf.
But I saw that El Dorado and Ijust it like really hit me how
much I missed her and made methink of her.
I wanted her to be there and toshare this moment with me.
It was so lonely, exploring thiswonderful city all alone,
because it's something that Iknow we would enjoy so much, and
I don't know, something in mybrain, in my heart, in my whole,
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being the next thing I know,the bottle of rum jumped off the
shelf, jumped.
It was so dramatic that thebartender jumped up and flipped
around, looked right at me andwas like what, what was that?
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Like this wasn't precariouslyon the edge of the shelf, it was
nowhere near the edge, it justflew off the shelf.
The second shelf flew off theshelf the second shelf, mind you
and it did not break when ithit the ground.
Whoa, okay, it kind of bouncedon the floor and then sit there
and the bartender and I this wasa full bar and the bartender
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and I just locked eyes and wewere just like what just
happened.
And he picked it back up and heput it back on the shelf and I
in my mind, I'm thinking, Imoved that bottle with my mind
Because I'm thinking so stronglyabout this person and these
memories and that this placethat I've never been to, that I
always wanted to go.
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And there's the rum from thiscountry and it just flies off
the shelf and afterward I tellthe bartender hey, I'm going to
have some of that.
So pour me some, because I hadto drink it obviously yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
If you love something , let it go, and if it jumps off
the shelf and comes back to you, drink it, oh my goodness.
So how does it feel to havetelekinesis?
We need to know.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I kind of think you know you hear these stories
about moms lifting up cars offof their children.
You know like in these momentsof extreme emotion that's
explicable.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Oh, but that's just adrenaline.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
I was feeling like extreme emotion in this, in this
time, and I felt like sometimesI felt like my brain was
connecting to her brain acrossthe pond and in that moment I
don't know I was just like thisextreme feeling and then I moved
the bottle with my mind Like Ican't explain it to this day.
I told her this story and shewas also pretty freaked out.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
She has no explanation either.
There's a really good line inthe fictional TV show Evil,
which is obviously where I getmy gospel from that.
Science is perfect for definingand studying repeatable
phenomena, and this phenomenonis not repeatable.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
No, it could be testable.
So, Courtney, next time you'rein London you need to go to that
same bar and try and dig upthose same feelings and see if
it happens again.
And try and dig up those samefeelings and see if it happens
again.
It's not going to happen again.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Becky, you can't just feel the feeling of being
broken up with, Like that's notlike.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
You got to remember it, you can recall.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
You're pretty emo, I bet you could.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I feel it often, actually with this one.
No, there's a little bit moreto this, though.
So I left the bar and I wastaking the train back to my
Airbnb.
There was a busker in thesubway and the busker was
playing only Bob Marley songs.
As I was walking by, he wasplaying Three Little Birds,
which was like our song.
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Bob Marley's like our favorite,particularly this song.
It was always our song, likeit's like a very important.
Bob Marley's like our favorite,particularly this song.
It was like always the song.
So I felt like she was therethe whole time.
It's like I can't escape, youknow.
So I see this busker playingThree Little Birds and I think
in that moment I broke down likeand just started crying because
I'm like this is weird.
This is really strange.
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You know this person who Ihaven't spoken to for a long
time and who's all the wayacross the ocean and who seems
to be like with me, like messingwith me, knocking bottles off
shelves and making people playyour favorite song, and that I
encounter on my way.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
It was very strange well, you said it was like she
was messing with you, but in away you were wishing really hard
that she was with you.
So in a way was it like youwere actually manifesting that
by hearing her songs, seeing herrum jump out at you.
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There may have even been otherlittle things that happened that
you didn't even notice thatwould indicate she was actually
there in spirit in a way.
Who?
Speaker 3 (17:21):
knows True.
True, I manifested it with thisextreme emotion that I have.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I bet if you sit and rack your brain, you're going to
be able to start seeing someother coincidences and things
like this that really indicatethat you have some superpowers.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
It's entirely possible.
I have a lot of strange thingsthat do happen to me.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I think, just looking at your life and everything
you've done, I mean, my gosh,you have manifested so much.
It is so fucking hard to likebe like I'm going to move to
Germany, I'm going to learnGerman and move to Germany.
And you, you did it, holy shit.
Not only I'm going to move toGermany, but like I'm going to
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be in a position in Germanywhere I can like work for myself
and have my own business andnot have to be on like some sort
of green card from a company.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
I mean, could learn some things from you and as far
as I know, you're pretty muchthe unifying force behind the
community that's going to bepatronizing Frow Bar.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yes, genau, as we say genau, yes.
I moved here wanting a queercommunity and I didn't really
have one.
Then I found one in Munich, aninternational queer women's
meetup, and yeah, then Ieventually became a leader of
this group and we have over athousand members in this group.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Looking at your timeline, you had this
incredible paranormal experiencewith telekinesis and now we're
coming full circle.
So this story took place in abar.
Now you're building a bar.
Do you think that there was anyway that this one event was
influencing you in some way andadjusting the course of your
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life?
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Probably because I've spent a lot of time in bars, I
really enjoy cocktail culture,cocktail making.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Do you think that because you have so much synergy
with these spaces that it hadsomething to do with being in a
bar that allowed you to, I guess, access and tap into this part
of your mind that allowed you tomove this bottle?
Probably because I really feelcomfortable in these spaces
allowed you to move this bottle,probably because I really feel
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comfortable in these spaces.
Okay, well, I bring that upbecause I'm wondering.
I would love for you to staytuned with us and let us know if
, while you're in this space anddevoting so much energy to
building it and creating it, andall the emotions and everything
you're feeling in a cocktailbar that is your own, if you
start to develop more of thesethings, if you start noticing
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more bottles moving off theshelf, maybe you'll be preparing
a cocktail and the bottle willbrain works.
You might have suspected thatCourtney Courtney is a very,
very, very educated woman.
What do you think would be thelike physiological explanation
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for telekinesis or telepathy?
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Oh, that's a tough question Because it's also tied
with emotion, right?
So I think amygdala certainlyamygdala is like the lizard
primitive brain, where we havekind of primitive responses like
deep emotions and fear I thinkthat's probably central to it
and also have to haveconnections to motor complexes
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in the brain to be able to havethe movement aspect of it.
I don't know, I haven't lookedup the neuroscience of
telekinesis.
I'll do that on PubMed oncewe're done here today.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, let us know, cite your sources.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
If you think about it .
Okay, I want to speculate herebecause I love you mentioned the
motor cortex portion of it andthe amygdala.
I never really thought aboutthe emotional part of it before,
but that makes a lot of sense.
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And then, for people that arein a way connected to their
third eye or the energies or thevibes, maybe it just has to do
with because, like theconnections went AWOL, like I
think here in this part of mybrain, here that's like next to
my cheek, which yeah.
I've been told it's like righthere, right here, apparently,
there's some like extradendrites going on there that
cause me to see color when Ihear numbers and stuff like that
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.
So maybe it's just a matter oflike, just like little forming
in the wrong places of the brain, or the right places of the
brain, and allowing those thingsto connect together.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
It's got to have something to do with the
semifield too, because, remember, you said you're connected
across the seas in your head.
I feel that connection topeople's heads.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Like there's a cerebral EMF field Like that's
heads, yeah, Like there's acerebral EMF field Like that's
redundant when you get closeenough to somebody and your semi
fields cross.
I think that does havesomething to do with the way we
communicate with each other,whether you call it telekinesis,
telepathy or whatever.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I've never shared this with anybody and this may
get cut, but I had.
But I had this experience oncethat I really thought I was like
connected to the brain of thisguy.
I met him in a bar.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
How appropriate for this story.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Back when I lived in Chicago, obviously before I met
my husband met this guy in a barand we went out, whatever.
The next night I was thinkingabout him because I really liked
him.
I was like, oh, this guy's kindof hot and I remember him
talking about how he had likereally bad IBS.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
That is something I use as a pickup line every
weekend.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
So the next night I'm thinking about him, I'm
thinking about him and I gotlike really sick to my stomach.
It was weird, but it felt likeit wasn't me, I don't know.
I was like this is his stomachissue.
I'm having his stomach issueand it was like a rough night.
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Let me tell you and I mean Istill remember being like why is
he doing this to?
me you know, I don't think herealized it, but I was just like
, ah, I really, you know, and Ijust kept feeling like it was
him and, of course, being thelike weirdo kid that I was, I
was like, wow, it was a magicalconnection.
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Diarrhea, yay.
So I called him the next dayand I was like, hey, something
happened last night.
And he's like, oh, and I'm like, were you thinking about me?
And I kept trying to like,because I didn't want to be like
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did you have diarrhea?
At the same time I had diarrhea, you know, it wasn't like.
I think there's a connection.
Like I said, it was one ofthose things where, if it had
not, if I had not felt like thiswas him, like I would have
never brought up, you know,because I was just, it was such
a weird feeling.
I was like this is him.
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But like you know, and ofcourse, whatever, it's weird to
even be like, oh, kind of cool,we have a mental connection
through our bells.
Um, anyway, so I kept tryingthe enteric nervous system,
right, apparently I kept tryingto like hint, hint, hint, but he
was not having it.
So I was like, well, all right,well, clearly, that wasn't what
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I or you didn't realize youwere passing your problems on to
me, so we promptly broke up.
But it was, it was.
It obviously still stays withme because it felt so real.
I can't believe.
I just shared that.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Becky, the microbiome is contagious.
It is, you think.
I caught his IBS Stuff likebslike that depends on how dirty
he was and what you put in yourmouth, because maybe yeah, I
don't want to share that withmyself I did not catch any
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diseases, uh, gut related orotherwise from anybody I met in
a bar in a paranormal manner orotherwise.
However, I do have a little bitof a telekinesis story.
Oh, I don't have any idea ofthe context of the story because
I think it happened when I wasabout six or seven, um, but we
were watching.
It was christmas, we werewatching, so there's a little
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context.
It was christmas time, themagic of christmas.
We were watching santa clausthe movie.
It's a very magical movie,right?
Isn't that the one with?
With the puce pops?
What that crazy?
I don't know.
Santa claus the movie.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
If you know, you know I don't, uh, but anyway, I
think you're making this up,yeah it's not, it's, I swear
it's this thing Anyway.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
So we're watching this movie about Santa Claus
Whatever that was and I gottired of it and my thought was I
need a remote to turn off theTV.
Pow, is what I did, orsomething like that, and TV
turned off.
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Ta-da.
That's another example oftelekinesis.
That's another example becausenobody had the remote.
I looked for the remote.
This is back when each TV onlyhad one single remote and if you
lost it you were fucked.
So I looked for it, found it,like on the other half of the
king size bed from where I was.
Nobody was pointing at the IRsensor through the mirror from
the other room or anything likethat.
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So that made me feel reallyspecial for quite a while.
I was like seven and it hasn'thappened to me as an adult.
I just thought of another story.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Actually, that's really good.
I knew you would.
Yeah, I forgot about this, thisone.
This one is also wild and Idon't know what, how to describe
it, but uh, it's a bit angelic,I don't know, like it's not so
much the telekinesis power, butso I lived in new york city for
many, many years and I basicallygrew up and came come of age
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even though it was a little latein life at the Cubbyhole, which
is the iconic lesbian bar inNew York City.
It's where everybody goes.
It's right there near Stonewallwhere the riots took place.
It is a legendary place andeverybody has a story from
Cubbyhole.
Everybody, except maybe you two, don't have a story from
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Cubbyhole, and I'll actuallytell you how I got to Cubbyhole
in the first place, because thiswas also a bit terrifying.
So I came out later in life.
I wasn't quite sure about myqueerness yet and my whole life
got turned upside down becausemy relationship of 10 years with
a man like disappearedovernight and I it was one of
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the worst things I've everexperienced in my life and I was
really struggling with what todo next.
And I was on the streets in NewYork City waiting for the light
to change.
And there have you all seen themovie Mulholland Drive.
I know your listeners haveprobably seen Mulho.
Mulholland Drive it's one of myfavorite movies.
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Well, you're a David Lynchaficionado, so of course it is
Absolutely there's a scene inMulholland Drive where they're
at the diner and they go behindthe dumpster at the diner and
this person comes out andthey're so terrifying that the
actor drops dead from fright.
Do you remember the scene?
Yeah, so I'm waiting for thelight to change and a woman,
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who's a homeless woman, wholooks just like the person
behind the dumpster andMulholland drive, is digging
through the trash while I'mwaiting for the light to change
for an intersection.
It's about a four lane road Iwant to cross.
I'm waiting for the light tochange for an intersection.
It's about a four lane road Iwant to cross.
I'm waiting, waiting, waiting.
The woman sees me and shestarts talking to me and I can't
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really make out what she'ssaying.
She's very, not mentally well,obviously very, very uncapped
and terrifying, looking likereminding me of Winkies and
Mulholland Drive.
And then, all of a sudden, shelunges at me and starts calling
me a dyke, starts cursing at meand I'm like whoa and the next
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thing I know she pushes mereally hard.
She's smaller than I am, butshe really, really hit me and
pushed me into traffic beforethe light had changed and I just
was like what.
You know, I'm like what?
And then she comes runningafter me and the traffic is
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still coming and I have to runacross these four lanes of
highway and hopefully I don'tget hit by a car because this
woman is chasing me in thestreet and I finally run away
from her, thinking she's goingto stab me with a shiv or
something, and I just go homeand I'm like what just happened?
I've never been called a dykebefore.
Is that what I am?
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And it was such a strange,strange thing for me to
experience.
It was really quite frightening.
Um, especially in this time inmy life, I'm trying to figure
out exactly what I'm doing and,yeah, what is my sexuality?
I was very confused about it.
I wasn't out to myself yet andthen I had this horrifying
experience.
So after a few weeks, I I'mlike online.
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I'm like let me go to a lesbianbar.
I've never been to one before.
And what comes up?
Number one on Google thecubbyhole, the iconic bar in New
York City.
And I wasn't out to anybody.
I know I wasn't out to you.
I wasn't, I don't think, out toanybody.
I wasn't even out to myself.
I didn't have anyone to talk to.
I went there by myself afterthis experience, trying to like
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understand everything.
And I walked in this bar and itwas kind of early in the
afternoon and it wasn't verycrowded and there were just
regular people sitting at thebar having a beer, eating a
pizza, and I was terrified,terrified, so terrified, and I'm
sitting there like shaking,drinking a really bad glass of
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wine.
Do not drink wine at cubby hallnoted terrible idea.
Then everyone came and talked tome and it was so great.
I was just like what, what?
What is this place?
This doesn't happen in otherbars I've ever been to.
And all of these women who areregulars in the space, um, just
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really noticed, I guess, how outof place and afraid I was and
they just kind of took me in andasked me my story or talking to
me, and it really really helpedand I kept going back and I
kept going back and I went backalmost every weekend and I have
so many stories from Cubby Hole,but one that was particularly
strange.
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One night I was sitting at thebar with a friend of mine who
now lives in Munich, believe itor not, Manifestation,
Manifesting it again.
And the bar was packed thatnight and her and I were just
sitting at the bar like thisbecause it was very crowded, and
then all of a sudden thisbeautiful girl comes behind us
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and it's this was like a slowmotion event, like in the in the
movies, and we both turn asshe's going out because it's
very close.
You know we're bumping intoeach other on the way out and
she touches me on the face likethis as she's going by and slow
motion.
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I turn my head as her hand isholding my cheek, as she walks
by and out the door and myfriend and I look at each other
and we're like what, what thehell is that?
And my friend's like you haveto go after her.
And I was like yeah, of courseI do, and I get up and I go out
and she's gone, she's not thereanymore.
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It was like this angelic slowmotion moment with this
beautiful woman's hand like onmy cheek, cheek just walking
past.
It was.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Whoa, but your friend saw her too Nice.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Yeah, oh yes, yes, she was seen by all.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Not an apparition.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
But you were the only person that she caressed.
Yes, yes, I wanted to saygroped, but I'm'm like that's
not quite the same caresseddrive wow, okay, so do you, and
you, I mean the way you said it.
It's almost like everythingwent silent.
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Was she glowing?
Yeah, wow.
Do you think that that was likesome sort of hair started
blowing backwards?
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Yeah kind of yeah, it was really.
You have these moments in yourlife where, like in the movies,
when things do kind of slow downsomehow and your mind processes
them in slow motion.
That was definitely that moment.
It was so strange, but myfriend and I both experienced it
at that pace, I think, whichwas also really interesting.
So maybe our minds wereconnected by the semi-fielder.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
See, this is another scenario in which I had the same
experience, but as a child.
Guys, it's like you're friendsor something.
Not the bar part, not the barpart the being shoved and called
a, a homo.
What was it called?
I was called a fag, actually,which is.
I was called the dyke yeah yeah, like not accurate at all I
know, get your slurs right I wasvery, very cis female at the
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time, so I don't know why, butyeah, I thought I was too.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
I thought I was too.
So that's really strange tohear.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, so yeah, I think it was somewhere between
eight and 10.
Somebody randomly approached mein the cafeteria and said I
heard you were talking about me.
I said who are you?
Because I have face blindness,I had no clue who this person
was.
And she said I heard you calledme a faggot.
You're a faggot.
She threw me into a trash can.
It was very intense and ofcourse I was like eight, nine.
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I didn't have any concept ofwhat the hell she meant.
I was a child.
I had no idea what she meant.
And then it happened again likea year later and then you know.
Now I know what they meant.
But yeah, it was a reallyconfusing situation, like how
did this bully know before I did?
We've had a few guests on theshow who have had the same story
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.
How do the bullies know beforewe do?
Speaker 1 (36:06):
But you didn't have the angel experience, did you?
Speaker 2 (36:09):
No, I was just shoved into a trash.
Can I did not get caressed byslow-mo angel woman afterwards?
Unfortunately, nobody came tomy rescue.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I just went in the bathroom and cried well, those
are the things that will nothappen at frow.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Well, maybe the angel might but well, I mean,
everyone has a story.
I think it's so great, you know, and we don't really have a
place like this here now.
So many stories at Cubbyholeand I want to basically
transplant the Cubbyhole vibeand the Cubbyhole experience
here and hopefully it will work,but it's very different than
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what we have already.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Well, getting back to the angel lady, do you think
that she was something like?
What do you think she was?
Do you think she was some kindof heavenly being?
Do you think she was yourspirit guide?
Do you think she was some kindof heavenly being?
Do you think she was yourspirit guide?
Do you think she was just aghost, even Like?
Do you have any ideas of whatshe could have been?
Speaker 3 (37:05):
The thing about Cubbyhole also is you always
kind of see the same people.
I mean, I think that's true forany queer space, so it's a very
small kind of world even in NewYork City.
But this girl I had never, everseen before and I never saw
again.
And it was so strange.
I went right out the door afterher and she wasn't there.
And it's not like you can justhop into a cab like right out
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front of the door.
That's not how New York Cityworks.
You have to look for a cab.
I looked everywhere, I think Ieven walked like a block in each
direction to see if I couldfind her and she just vanished.
So and I never saw her thereagain.
But I kept going because it'slike wow, I want to meet this
person again.
And I never found her again.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
No, I mean, what do you think she was?
Who do you think she was?
Speaker 3 (37:46):
She could, that she could have been the love of my
life.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Well, if that's the case, then she'll come back.
Maybe she was a vision you werehaving of somebody you'll meet
in the future.
Then she'll come back.
Maybe she was a vision you werehaving of somebody you'll meet
in the future.
Maybe, maybe I remember after Ihad gotten out of like a
terrible four-year relationship,I was an absolute mess
wandering aimlessly through thestreets of Chicago, crying, and
I had a vision of what my futuresoulmate would look like.
(38:14):
And I met him six months laterand we're still married.
So damn.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
In that city Did you pass by him subconsciously, pick
up his image.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
No, I just closed my eyes and I saw him.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Romantic and spooky it is.
Speaker 1 (38:31):
It makes you wonder about things like fate.
And you know, it was kind ofalso an interesting thing about
Alex and I.
We both haunted the same barsand cafes and had the same
friends, even like well, notfriends but acquaintances for
years before we met.
But like, for instance, there'sthis coffee shop that he and I
(38:52):
were both regulars at.
I went in the morning, he wentin the evening, so for years we
were like these two ships and itwas like it was like time and
fate were waiting till we'reboth ready.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
It's like when you walk the dog and they sniff all
the pee spots and then leave aleave.
A little pee, yes.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
That's what you guys were doing.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
It's exactly like that.
You guys were just leaving eachother scent markings all over
town until you found each other.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Our first date was really interesting because we
kept running into people thatknew both of us.
Like, oh, hey guys, we didn'tknow you knew each other.
We're like we don't.
This is our first.
It was weird and random and itwas like in Chicago, right,
that's why you live in a bigcity, so you don't have to run
into people, you know.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Yeah, you'd think so, but it happens all the time.
When I, when I lived in NewYork, one time, I was hailing a
cab and the cab stopped and thepeople that got out of the cab
were my friends and I got in thecab after them.
It's like there's millions ofpeople in the city.
Yeah, and that happens all thetime.
Actually, it's really reallyweird.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Yeah Well, for anybody listening, I think that
this is proof that you can doanything.
You can move rum with your mind.
You can move to another country, you can start a movement, a
bar, a community in a completelydifferent part of the world if
you so choose.
You just have to have the wishand the will and the emotion.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
And if you choose not to soon, you'll be able to just
visit Frau Bar no commitment.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yeah, it's very exciting.
Speaker 1 (40:24):
Do you have a website you want to share with us,
courtney, before we close thisout, yeah, so the website is
fraubarde.
Okay, d-e for Deutschland.
And for those of you that don'tknow how to spell Frau, it is
F-R-A-U.
No umlauts this time.
Yeah, just remember that theA-U makes the ow ow, ow sound in
(40:46):
.
Uh, where's the ow ow ow?
Sorry, was that inappropriate?
Speaker 3 (40:50):
Yes, this is how Americans learn German.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
I'm going to make a custom cocktail called have a
Spooky Day.
It won't be on the menu, but ifpeople order it, you'll know.
You want to develop a drink formy bar?
We can do that.
Let's do it.
Let's do it together.
What do you think would be in a?
Have a Spooky Day?
Squid ink, Squid ink, Squid ink.
Creme de violette, chambord andbombay I like to drink that
(41:22):
Something juniper-y.
Yeah, that sounds good Like anedible pansy.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
Ooh, that would be good.
You could do some black saltaround the rim though.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
That would go well with the squid ink too Like that
little brainy.
You know I have all of theseingredients in my kitchen.
Right now I want to brainy.
You know I have all of theseingredients in my kitchen right
now.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
I want to make this.
You have squid ink.
Yes, I can't wait until youopen Frowl Bar.
I can't wait until you make thehave a Spooky Day drink with
the squid ink.
Yeah, you're going to come tothe bar and you're going to
drink it with me.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
I'll make it for you.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
Okay, that sounds good.
Again, your website is frowlbar.
People can find you onInstagram at FrauBarMUC on
Instagram.
They can find out about yourfundraising campaigns there and
we'll have links to all of thatin our show notes.
Thank you for coming on theshow.
Yes, it's amazing, thank you.
Can you say have a spooky dayin German for us?
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Okay, well, hainted Loves, what do you think If you
were drinking in the only Flintabar in Munich and a bottle
jumped off the shelf at you?
Would you order a dark andstormy, or would you have a
spooky day?
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Viel SpaĂź beim Gruseln.
Speaker 1 (42:28):
Homespun Haints is hosted by Becky Kielimnik and
Diana Doty and produced byHomespun Haints Media LLC.
Editing and music by BeckyKilimnik.
Show notes by Diana Doty.
If you have a ghost story andyou'd like to be considered as a
guest for this podcast, pleasevisit our website at
homespunhatescom.
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