April 15, 2025 • 45 mins
Hustle culture has convinced us that rest is a reward we haven't earned yet. But what if constant grinding isn't the badge of honor we've been led to believe? What if it's actually killing our creativity and joy?
Rapper JunoFlo joins me to unravel how the 24/7 productivity mindset has shaped his 14-year music career. From being raised in a household where excellence was the only option to navigating an industry that celebrates sleepless nights, Juno shares how he's learning to balance ambition with well-being. "People become fans of you as a person," he reveals, "and that might be more important than being a fan of the music."
We dive into the concept of "glow up guilt"—that uncomfortable feeling when friends and family resist your growth and boundary-setting. As Juno wisely suggests, "Go out of your way to make you happy," which might include taking yourself on an "artist date" to refill your creative well without considering anyone else's needs.
I'll leave you with three powerful tools to reset from burnout: remember that productivity without purpose is just noise, schedule rest like it's a non-negotiable meeting, and celebrate quality over quantity in your work. Because here's the truth—you don't have to hustle every day to be worthy. You already are worthy.
Ready to reclaim your life from hustle culture? Your challenge this week is to choose one area where you can trade hustle for purpose. Be intentional about it. Do it for you, not for anyone else.
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
yeah, hello, hello, family, and welcome back to in
the passengerassenger Seat withyour girl, alethea Clements,
where we take life by the wheeland we avoid every burnout
detour along the way.
Listen, today we are going totalk about something that most
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of us has been trapped in.
I know that I have because I amconstantly trying to get it.
I'm constantly, I'm a go go, go, go, go, and sometimes I don't
stop and sometimes I feel likethat's what I have to do in
order to succeed, like I have tokeep going, I have to keep
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pushing myself.
We're going to talk about thehustle 24-7 culture.
When did this become the norm?
When did this become okay?
Like you feel guilty about justhaving time for yourself
without checking that email,making sure that this is okay,
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making sure that your work isdone.
When is it okay to just breathe, rest and take time for
yourself without feeling likethere's always something to do?
Listen, I do not know who needsto hear this, but constantly
grinding does not make you asuperhero, it just make you
tired.
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I'ma say it again constantlygrinding, constantly going, does
not make you a superhero.
All that shit does is make youtired.
So when is it going to stop?
How do we fix this?
Because this is a trap.
Like where does this hustleculture come from?
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Like, who thought about this?
Who approved this, this hustleculture?
So how do we end up believingthat burnout equals success?
Somewhere along the way, westarted to feel like overworking
.
Was this badge of honor?
Oh yeah, I done worked 110hours a week.
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That's not nothing to celebrate.
You are tired and what are yougetting out of it?
So they have folks that bragabout it humbly.
Oh well, I just slept threehours this week, are you okay?
Are you all right?
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Like you that?
Listen, that does not make youover.
Working does not make you moresuccessful.
Again, when are we going totake time out for ourselves?
Burnout is actually killingproductivity.
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It does not make you moreproductive, it's actually doing
the opposite.
Because if you're only runningon three hours of sleep, so how
are you going to function?
So how are you going to operate?
So how are you going to operate?
How are you being moreproductive?
Listen, my next guest.
Nobody hustles harder thanpeople in the music industry.
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Nobody hustles harder.
And I know somebody my nextguest.
He knows all about the hustleculture.
He is a rapper.
I have seen his videos onTikTok.
I've seen them on IG.
I love everything that he does.
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We are going to talk about itlater on, but let me introduce
you to the rap phenomenonchanging the game doing his thug
thistle, juno flow run thatclip Jumpin', jumpin', jumpin'.
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Got bougie on my neck.
She like my chain she beggin'up on me.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I forgot her name.
I'm too turnt up.
I ain't lookin' for love.
Ain't got no diamond rings foryou, but just for the night I
think I'm custom made for you,fresh in a white tee checks all
on me.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Like I left Nike, ooh , she got Pisces.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Swim to the lake boy, if you wanna fight me Out
inside the club, I go by 290,just want a photo.
We don't call the police, wecall the homies.
G-l-x on me, bitch, wreck himoff me.
Ay what?
Okay, I'm too Turned up, turnedup Pour that 1942 up in a cup.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Ay yeah, kick him in the top Off, top off, top off,
top yeah, cause I don't need nolove.
Listen, Juno, juno, flo.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Come on, juno.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Thank you, alethea, I appreciate it, oh my goodness,
listen, I was yeah, yeah, don'tyou know.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Oh man, I love the energy.
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
So I have already introduced you, but can you
introduce yourself to thebeautiful people that watch in
the passenger seat?
Can you tell us who you are andwhat you do?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, absolutely.
What's up, guys?
My name is Juno, I go by JunoFlo and I am a I'm an artist,
songwriter and produceroriginally from Los Angeles, but
now I'm based in New York.
So I've yeah, I've been makingmusic for most of my life and
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you know I'm here now, so gladto be here with you so how did
you start out making music Like?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
how did you say, ok, this is what I want to make
music.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, it's actually funny because I had like the
very typical Asian householdupbringing where my mom forced
me to play piano and I hatedevery second of it.
When I was a kid, I was like Ithink I played for like 10 years
and I hated every second of it.
When I was a kid, I was like Ithink I played for like 10 years
and I hated every second of it.
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For some reason, like you know,it was like this thing where,
because I was forced to do itand, like you know, I learned it
, I got better at it, but at theend, when I finally quit like
my piano lessons, that was likeone of those days where I was
like, oh my god, like I'm sohappy that it's done now.
Yeah, but but now that I lookback, like I'm I'm very grateful
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for my parents for you know,for for doing that to me,
because because I feel like thatkind of embedded like music
into my brain, and then, um, andthen I started writing.
You know I started writing.
You know I started writing likesome poetry and like I wanted
to rap back in like high schoolbecause I didn't have like a
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recording set up or anything.
I don't even have a computer.
So I asked my roommate.
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I'm like, hey, could I borrowyour MacBook?
I want to use your garage bandand and I have my.
You know, I have my littleApple earphones, the wired ones
yes.
So I connected it and I wrotelike this rap over over, like
this jazzy hip-hop beat that Ireally loved, and so I was like
I recorded it and I was likecool, like I mean I don't know
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how to engineer, like I knewnothing.
I all I knew was I wanted torap.
Okay, I recorded in garage band, then I posted it on soundcloud
and I posted it on SoundCloudand then I posted it on Facebook
to all my Facebook friends atthe time and I'm like hey, guys,
like check out my rap.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Like this is me like check this out what y'all think
like this me right here yeahyeah, exactly yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
So I posted it and you know, I got a good response
and then one of my friends onFacebook was like hey, he
messaged me on the side.
He was like, hey, if you wantto record, like I have a studio,
you should come.
So I was like whoa, you know,like, oh, that that's really
cool.
So that opened up a whole newworld for me and I got, I got
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more passionate and more seriousabout OK, cool, like I'll, like
I want to do this.
So I made a mixtape.
Then I made like a duo groupwith my buddy, paul.
We were called the Native Souls.
Okay, so we were doing like youknow, a lot, we were just taking
like very popular classic hiphop beats and we're just rapping
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over them.
You know, like a lot of TrapCalled Quest of like a lot of
wu-tang stuff.
And then, uh, um, yeah, andthen 14 years later, you know
I'm I've been through a lot of alot of ups and downs on this
music journey.
It took me to a lot ofcountries.
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I moved to korea for a littlebit because I got signed to a
label out there, oh, cool.
So I was, um, living in koreafor about four years, from 2016
to 2020 and making music inkorean or like.
I guess like 50 50, it was likehalf English, half Korean.
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Okay, um, yeah, and I'm tryingto like, I'm trying to like
think of the condensed versionright now, because I feel like
there's so much I can tell you,but, um, but yeah, yeah, yeah, I
mean, uh, should I keep going,or, or?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
listen, I know that doing what you do record you
said 14 years.
So doing what you do, and alsoyour background, like we, you,
you're, you're raised, like look, I gotta work, got to get it, I
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got to do it, I got to push, Igot to push.
And the what does the hustleculture mean to you and do you
implement that in what you'redoing now?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, no, that's a that's a great question.
That's a great question andalso this topic.
Uh, it's cool that we'retalking about this because this
is something that, like, I'vealways thought about and felt
and I was actually just having aconversation with my buddy the
other day about it, um, but,yeah, like, I feel like I was
raised into the hustle culture,like, especially, especially
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like being, you know, beingKorean, and you know my, my
family and my upbringing hasalways been like you got to
excel at everything.
You do Right and and whateveryou do, like make sure you're
the best at it and be good ateverything.
I grew up in that way where Ihad to be extremely competent
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and I had to put in my all foreverything or else I'd be
grilled for it.
And musically, too, I didn'tknow a lot of how it'll be these
long nights, long hours, nosleep, like I'm probably going
to have to be in situationswhere there's a lot of alcohol
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involved for extended periods oftime and like you know, all
these things that have to dowith hustle culture too, like,
even though that when peoplethink of, like clubbing and
partying and stuff like you knowthey, they think of it as like,
oh, you're just having fun.
But I realized once, yeah, likeonce I got into the music world
, I was like, oh, this is work.
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Yeah, I'm working all day, thenI'm going to the club and I'm
working all night.
You know, like, um, so that'ssomething I learned over the
years.
And, yeah, like the, the hustleculture is definitely, uh, it's
like very prominent right now.
Everybody wants to be the.
You know, like all grind, nosleep.
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Yes, and I've also been thatperson and I, I'm, I'm still
guilty of it now because I, Ijust work as much as I can
because I feel like I'm notwhere I aim to be yet.
So, um, yeah, I'm still guiltyof it, but I'm, I'm trying to
balance it out, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
How did?
How did your background?
Because you, you, you said likeit was always I, I have to to
to be the best.
It was like you, you're best orit's just not good, good enough
.
You, you get, give, give ityour all or is nothing.
So how did growing up like thataffect you, positively and
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negatively?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I feel like the positive aspect of it was that
it trained me mentally to wantto continue to seek knowledge
and the skill to be really goodat whatever I was interested in,
so it allowed me to be able tolearn and absorb information.
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So I'm the type of person nowwhere, if I get into something,
if I'm really interested aboutthis one thing about production
and I was never a producer tobegin with, I was more of a
songwriter, rapper but because Igot interested in it, I locked
myself in my room and I justthat's all I did, all I learned,
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cause I wanted to make surelike I get to a level where I
can display this to the worldand there'll be like oh wow,
this is good, you know, justjust like, objectively, I guess.
But um, so it allowed me tocondition myself to like keep
working harder and not like burnout in a sense, because I kept,
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I was interested in learningmore.
What I thought was like perfect, I guess you know, but there
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there is no perfect right.
Like you, you're just you'reyou and you're going to be as
good as you are in this moment,which is probably already good
enough, but we don't think itand I think that's how I've felt
most of my life.
Just not, not even in music,you know, just like in
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everything else in life, likesocial norms and like just like
me presenting myself like in anytype of way.
But when it came to music, I waslike, oh, wow, yeah, like I'm
creating something and showingthis to the world to be like,
hey guys, look, you know, thisis me being vulnerable.
Look at what I made andeveryone is going to have a
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judgment or opinion on it andyes, yeah, and that that always
like scared me because I wasalways a type to like, keep to
myself.
So sharing something with theworld was always like very
intimidating and I think I wasalways thinking I wasn't good
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enough, so that would be thenegative side of the whole.
Like you know, the whole hustle, nonstop is like I kept
comparing myself and I was like,you know, I, I don't think this
is good enough, like no, no, Ineed to, I need to make it
better, I need to make it better.
But sometimes I I mean like nowI realize, like you know, what
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like, like this is good, what?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I have right here this is good because one of one
of those common myths in thehustle culture is constant
motion equals worse.
Like the the like lie is thatlike busier you are, but the
more valuable you are, right,like the the the more that you
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do, the more that you work, itequates to your value.
But running on empty isn'tnoble because it does not
sustain you.
Like it's true it.
Like you're running on emptyfor what?
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Yeah, like what are you doingit for?
Like I was guilty, like I, Iused to feel bad about taking
breaks.
Like, like, like I would feelbad if I stopped.
Like if, if, if I would answerthe phone, if I would answer the
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phone, if I would answer anemail right then and there, if I
wouldn't show up.
Y'all, if y'all don't hit.
You do not have to show up foreverything that everybody asks
you to do.
You do not have to show up.
The world does not stopspinning just because you you
didn't show up.
The world does not stopspinning just because you didn't
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answer that email or answer thephone.
Like the world keeps going, butwe don't.
Yeah, absolutely, the worldkeeps going, but we stop because
we are exhausted.
Like productivity withoutpurpose.
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Is this noise?
oh, that's real, that's like you, you, you, you just make a
noise like that's, that's just,it's just pots and pans just
hanging with, like you're justgoing yeah no, that's so real so
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you said that you were like.
It made you compare yourself tolike okay, well, I'm, I'm not
good enough.
Like it, should I be better.
How did you overcome that,being in constant competition,
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in essence, with yourself, likeyou were in constant competition
to always one up yourself?
How did you get over that?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
You know I feel like I'm still trying my best to get
over it.
You know I feel like I'm stilltrying my best to get over it.
I don't think I've fullysucceeded in that sense, but
I've learned and grown a lotfrom my time in the music
industry and world.
For the last eight years-ish,because that's when I started to
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actually go full-time and Istarted to make a small living
out of music, I was like, wow,this is possible.
But because of that, there wasa lot of pressures that came
with it.
Over the years, like I kept, Ikept comparing myself to the
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players at the highest level,because I wanted to be, I wanted
to be up there.
You know, and I and I still doso.
Like everything that I do, I'malways thinking in my head like,
oh, like, can this compete?
Like, can this be played on theradio?
Can I hear this in a DJ setwith?
You know if, like Yadda Yadda'splaying it?
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You know, like.
So I'm still growing intomyself, but I feel very proud
and you should.
Comfortable, yeah, thank you,and comfortable at where I am,
because I think I've found a bitof my voice over the years and
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you know, of course, that wasthrough constant experimentation
, constant comparison, sad tosay, constant comparison, sad to
say.
But I would absorb the thingsthat inspire me, the things that
I would like to, or the type ofmoods or feelings that I would
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also like to show when it comesto my music.
I thought about how can I makethis my own If there's this type
of flow that I take like fromyou know?
Let's just say like I like thisflow that Kendrick did over
here, but then it's like okay,like I don't want to just copy
that, like how do I make it myown?
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How do I make it me?
I love it and that's somethingthat I'm constantly working at
and I'm trying my best to likeshare my story, because I feel
like that's what makes me me andnobody else can tell you the
story that I'm telling andnobody else can tell the story
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that you're telling you knowyeah.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I love that and you know I don't think what people
realize.
I know for me because ithappened with me, because I was,
I was in band.
I was, I was a band nerd and Iplayed yeah, I played the
clarinet and I also played theob, the um oboe and I loved band
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.
I like band, thank you, andband was my jam.
But the more pressure thatother people put on me and the
more pressure that I put onmyself to succeed, it takes the
fun out of it and and that'sexactly what happened Like it
takes the fun out of it and andthat's exactly what happened
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like it took the fun out of justbeing in band, just having for
it.
It takes the fun.
So the the more that we try toreach a certain level of success
, it takes the fun out of whatwe're actually doing and the
like fun out of what we love.
And I love, I love, I love, Ilove that you have found a very
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unique way to also have fun andpromote what you do.
So I I watched your TikTokvideos.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
And I love how you are true to you.
You incorporate fun, but you'realso pushing out your, your,
your like songs or like videos.
Your like songs, your likevideos.
Listen, okay, if y'all do notknow what I am talking about,
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watch this.
I felt the highs, I felt thelows.
Sense of the chronic over thatleathery crown I always felt
like an outcast, like I was.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
from Atlanta, I was ditching class, yelling Caroline
with that blunt road, with thatpack of five more pack of heat
just to pass the time, my soulsharp like I'm in Camelot
Excalibur.
You ain't on my caliber, so youa baby with it and I love it,
thank you.
Thank you so much, I appreciateit.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
How did you come up with these concepts?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I just wanted to figure out a way to showcase my
music but also showcase a littlebit of my personality, because
that's something I alwaysstruggled with.
I was very to myself and Ididn't want to be all revealing
and like vulnerable and but thenyou know, these days you got to
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.
People become fans of you as aperson, exactly, and that might
be a little more important thanthe fan of the music, because if
they just like you as a person,they're going gonna love
everything you do, right?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
okay, can you?
Can you just run that back onemore, because somebody,
somewhere, needed to hearexactly what you just?
Said yeah yeah, my goodnessyeah, it's, it's.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
It's something that I'm continually learning too,
because, you know, there's somany talented musicians out
there, so many talented people,producers, and you can make the
greatest song in the world, butif people don't like you for who
you are, then they're not goingto listen to the song, right,
and?
And if they do find a song,then then that's amazing and
they'll be like, wow, this is anamazing song.
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But then if they go to check onyour like who you are as a
person's, like social media andwhatnot, and they'll be like oh,
this, this is boring.
Like, like, like there'snothing here.
Yeah, because, like you know,people love geniuses, but at the
same time, like they, they wantto be entertained in a way.
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Yes, yes, and that's, uh,something I thought, I thought a
lot about, because there are somany videos out there that are
just like look at me rap, likeyo, this is me in a cool spot,
like there's a bridge behind meand I'm rapping, which I
actually did.
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I got the Lambo in the back andI'm on the hood rapping.
You know like these are allvery common videos and I've made
all of these too.
You know like I've done all ofthese, but over time, people get
tired of seeing the same thing,right?
Speaker 1 (26:48):
And I feel like they want to know you.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, yeah, and, and I wanted to figure out, like,
how do I draw them in?
Be like, hey, look at, you know, this is something funny about
me.
And then like boom, and thenit's me rapping.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
so well, speaking of being vulnerable, we have come
to the segment of the showcalled ask aletheia, where a
follower sends in a scenario orsomething that they need help
with and I, as as well as myguests, give them advice.
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Okay, so this is the ask,alethea, alethea how do I deal
with people who don't support mygrowth?
Ever since I started settingboundaries, focusing on my goals
and saying no more often, I'vehad friends, even family members
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, act like I'm doing somethingwrong.
It's like they liked me betterwhen I was struggling.
How do I keep evolving withoutfeeling guilty?
So I mean, first of all and letme say this for the people in
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the back there is absolutelynothing wrong with growing and
guarding your peace.
That is what you are supposedto do.
There is absolutely nothingwrong with that.
People who benefited from yourlack of boundaries will always
feel some type of way when youstart enforcing them.
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They will always feel some typeof way when you start saying,
look, no, I'm not doing that,but that doesn't make you wrong.
It just means that you'rehealing, you're growing, you're
evolving, you're doing what youare supposed to do for you, and
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not everybody is ready to meetthat new version of you because
they are comfortable with theold one.
But your job is not to makepeople comfortable.
Your growth will make peopleuncomfortable.
That just is what it is.
But it's not your burden tocarry.
Some folks like you better whenyou are smaller.
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They like you better when youdim your light, and it's not you
being selfish, it's just youfinally choosing yourself.
So glow up guilt.
(29:43):
You shouldn't feel guilty aboutit.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
You are choosing yourself and that's what you
should do, you know I'veactually never heard that term
glow of guilt, but that's yeah,that's a.
That's a very good like term todescribe that.
(30:07):
Yeah, because, because peopledo you know, people get jealous,
people start hating when youstart doing good for yourself.
Yes, and it's.
It's funny to see, like, howthe people around you that you
thought were your friends canfeel that way.
That's yeah, yeah, just likeyou said, like people like it
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when you are exactly where youare and if you end up doing
something that kind of surpasseswhat they might be doing,
they'll feel a way about it.
So that's so.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
So what advice would you give our follower that like
how do I not feel guilty aboutchoosing me?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I, I feel like, yeah, like we, we all have to
continue to make decisions thatmake us feel good, whether
that's physical, mental orspiritual, because if you're
constantly giving away yourenergy and time to other people,
then at the end of the day, youhave nothing for yourself.
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And this is something that I'vebeen practicing too.
It's like I always make sure Ihave time to sit with myself and
think about, like, where I amin life and mentally and what I
want to do and the things thatmake me happy and I go out of, I
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go out of my way to make mehappy.
I feel like that's, that's whatI try to do.
And, um, there's this thing Ilearned recently called, uh,
it's called the artist state,right, okay, it's just like as
an artist or, as you know, asanybody, as yourself, right, but
it's called artist statebecause it was referring to
artists specifically.
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But it's basically like youshould take yourself on an
artist state.
Take yourself on that date,whatever that thing may be that
can spark a curiosity in yourheart, or, uh, just anything
that interests you.
Just take yourself on that date, go go to that park, see that
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statue, go to that I don't knowclay, build pottery class just
because you want it, you knowlike, like, but just do it
yourself and go for yourself andnot for anybody else, Because
if you take someone else withyou, then you're going to be
thinking about how does thisperson feel?
Are they tired?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Oh, yeah, are they?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
are they hungry?
Oh, should we actually go thisway?
Should we go that way?
You know, like there are allthese other factors that come to
play um.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
So yeah, take yourself on that date and feed
your, your soul, you know I, Ilove when when you said and I am
going to use this in my lifeand I'm gonna start telling
other people this Go out of yourway to make you happy.
Go out of your way because wedo go out of our way for
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everybody else.
Yes, but we rarely go out ofour way for us.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
So go out of your way to make you happy.
Mm-hmm Ooh, dropping knowledge,dropping boys.
(33:41):
Wait, wait, wait Speaking ofdropping bars.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
do you just freestyle or do you just write stuff down
?
There were a couple of songs inmy past that I've just
freestyled because I've justlike gone in there and did it.
But I feel like I'm I try mybest to write because so, so, so
so.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
so what you're saying ?
If I, if I like, give you alittle, oh man.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I feel like I should be able to, but I feel like
right now it might be kind ofhard.
I probably should have cameready, though damn.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Just in case I would have dropped that.
Oh, my name is Juno.
I love it.
Oh, my goodness.
Listen, juno, I am so happythat you came to be in the
passenger seat with me before weget out of here, like we were
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talking about burnout and how toreset.
So I have these are three toolsthat'll help you reset and get
out of that burnout mentality.
First of all, I need you toremember productivity without
(35:10):
purpose is just noise.
You define your own version ofsuccess.
You, not your boss, not socialmedia, just you.
You define your own level ofsuccess.
(35:31):
Number two schedule.
Rest like that bitch is ameeting.
Schedule your rest.
Put that in your planner.
Look, today I'm going to rest,I'm rest.
Schedule it.
Put it on your look, becauserest is what?
(35:52):
Fundamental, because I lovenaps.
Number three celebrate qualityover quantity.
Quality over quantity.
One focused hour, just one hourof you being totally focused,
(36:14):
totally zoned in beats.
Eight distracted hours.
If you just have one hour ofgood focus and three hours of
nonsense, which one is better?
Quality over quantity, that ishow you reset, that is how you
(36:35):
keep yourself from burnout.
So we're going to do two morethings before I let you leave.
Now you do have a new albumthat is out, or you do have an
album just Juno.
Can you give us a little?
(36:56):
Yeah, what is what is?
What is just just Juno?
What, what is it about?
Where can we find just Juno?
Can you give us a quick littlerundown of that?
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah, absolutely so.
The latest album that I droppedit was last June.
It's titled Just Juno, becausethat album was a.
It was it was like a sonicjourney of my life in the last
couple of years of my life inthe last couple of years, like
(37:32):
the last two to three years, andI felt like it was a great
representation of like who I amand who the type of artists that
I want to be, because if youlisten to the album, there's a
lot of genres that are blendedin there.
Like I used to just makeprimarily hip hop and R&B and
that was it.
But over the years, like youknow, I love all types of music
(37:55):
and I've grown to be courageousenough to be like oh, you know
what?
Like I could do that too, youknow.
And and I love experimenting Ilove hearing sounds that like
I've never heard before, I'venever used before, and
showcasing it in a way like,look, this is different.
(38:15):
Because I don't want to keeppumping out the exact same music
.
I don't want to keep making thesame songs that you hear on the
radio or that go viral, becausethen I'm just cloning myself to
these other people.
So that's why it's titled JustJuno, because I thought it was
just me.
And in the album I mix a lot ofhip hop, a lot of dance music.
(38:38):
There's a bit of house, a bitof like UK garage, a little bit
of techno and a little bit ofsoul.
So that album is theculmination of like just
everything that I've beenworking on.
And I also created it in thatway, because I got into DJing
(38:59):
about two, three years ago and Iwanted to make music that I
could also just DJ out.
If I'm doing a house set, ifI'm doing a classic house set,
like if I'm doing like a classichouse set, then I want to have
music that I made that I couldput in there too, rather than
just playing like all otherpeople's music.
So I love it so that was myambition with that album.
(39:21):
Um, I'm pretty proud of itbecause I produced, uh,
everything on there with thehelp of my buddy Doomsday and my
other buddy, chucky.
So it just felt like everythingthat was in my brain, that like
the chaos in here.
I got to structure it in somesonic way and that's what that
is.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
I love it.
Oh my gosh.
So can you tell us where tofind not only that album, but
things juno flow yeah, uh, I'mon spotify, apple, every
streaming platform under junoflow.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
J-u-n-o-f-l-o.
Uh.
Same thing with instagram,tiktok, youtube.
It's all under juno flow.
Oh, no wait, tiktok's underjiggy juno, I think okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
So the last thing that we do is something called
pass it on, where we, you passon something motivational,
(40:33):
positive.
It can be a quote that youheard or something that just
comes from you.
So what do you want to pass?
Speaker 2 (40:48):
um, I would say, uh, this is something that I've been
feeling a lot lately.
But, um, ask for help, and yourfriends around you or the
people that surround you thatbelieve in you and love what you
(41:12):
do, they will be glad to helpyou.
Because I've grown up with thiswhole mindset of like I have to
do it myself, like I have tosucceed by myself, like I can't
ask for no favors, I can't be indebt to anybody.
But then over time I realized,like we can't, we can't do it,
(41:35):
we can't do everything ourselvesand we need the people around
us.
And, uh, we shouldn't feelashamed of asking for help in
any way or form, because if, ifwe do, the person who is being
asked, they might also be happythat you asked.
They'll be like, wow, you thinkthat I can help you, and
(41:57):
because of that they might, youknow, it'll make them feel good
too.
It's like look, let me help you.
Because if my friend asked mefor help, I'd be like yeah, let
me help you, like whatever way Ican.
My friend asked me for help.
I'd be like, yeah, like, yeah,let me help you, like whatever
way I can.
So I'm trying to think that waytoo.
We're like, oh yeah, like ask,ask for help and the people
around you will help you for it.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Oh my gosh, I love it .
I love it.
Oh my God.
Thank you so much for beingwith me in the passenger seat.
Listen, guys, the hustleculture.
It will sell you a dream thatwill leave you drained.
It'll just leave you drained.
(42:41):
So now is the time to reclaimyour life.
Now is the time to refill yourcup.
And just think about this youdon't have to hustle every day
to be worthy.
You already are worthy.
You are doing enough.
You are doing enough.
(43:03):
If you are doing your best,you're doing enough.
And, like I tell y'all all thetime, do your best and fuck the
rest.
I mean, that is just what it isDo your best and fuck the rest.
All right, listen, yourchallenge this week is to choose
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one area where you can tradehustle for purpose.
Be intentional.
Be intentional Whether it'ssaying no to like a project or
just binge watching yourfavorite show.
If you are intentional about it, then you are doing a good job.
(43:49):
Do it for you, don't do it foranybody else.
Do it for you, all right.
So thank you for being in thepassenger seat with me.
Guys, send me those DMs, keepsending me those emails for
askaletheia.
Pimping positivity at gmailcom.
(44:12):
Pimping positivity at gmailcom,because you might be the next
one to be featured on in thepassenger seat.
Now listen, you know that youare everything and everything is
you, so I need you to go outthere and act like it.
You know that you are the andeverything is you, so I need you
to go out there and act like it.
You know that you are the shit,the whole shit, and nothing but
(44:33):
the.
What?
Yes, honey, the shit.
So go out there and act like it.
So, as you go out there and begreat in they face, always be
great in your own.
Now, honey, you be fabulouslike I know you can be and, as
always, you have a good day onpurpose.
yeah, hello, hello, family, and welcome back to in
the passengerassenger Seat withyour girl, alethea Clements,
where we take life by the wheeland we avoid every burnout
detour along the way.
Listen, today we are going totalk about something that most
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of us has been trapped in.
I know that I have because I amconstantly trying to get it.
I'm constantly, I'm a go go, go, go, go, and sometimes I don't
stop and sometimes I feel likethat's what I have to do in
order to succeed, like I have tokeep going, I have to keep
(01:05):
pushing myself.
We're going to talk about thehustle 24-7 culture.
When did this become the norm?
When did this become okay?
Like you feel guilty about justhaving time for yourself
without checking that email,making sure that this is okay,
(01:27):
making sure that your work isdone.
When is it okay to just breathe, rest and take time for
yourself without feeling likethere's always something to do?
Listen, I do not know who needsto hear this, but constantly
grinding does not make you asuperhero, it just make you
tired.
(01:47):
I'ma say it again constantlygrinding, constantly going, does
not make you a superhero.
All that shit does is make youtired.
So when is it going to stop?
How do we fix this?
Because this is a trap.
Like where does this hustleculture come from?
(02:08):
Like, who thought about this?
Who approved this, this hustleculture?
So how do we end up believingthat burnout equals success?
Somewhere along the way, westarted to feel like overworking
.
Was this badge of honor?
Oh yeah, I done worked 110hours a week.
(02:33):
That's not nothing to celebrate.
You are tired and what are yougetting out of it?
So they have folks that bragabout it humbly.
Oh well, I just slept threehours this week, are you okay?
Are you all right?
(02:53):
Like you that?
Listen, that does not make youover.
Working does not make you moresuccessful.
Again, when are we going totake time out for ourselves?
Burnout is actually killingproductivity.
(03:13):
It does not make you moreproductive, it's actually doing
the opposite.
Because if you're only runningon three hours of sleep, so how
are you going to function?
So how are you going to operate?
So how are you going to operate?
How are you being moreproductive?
Listen, my next guest.
Nobody hustles harder thanpeople in the music industry.
(03:40):
Nobody hustles harder.
And I know somebody my nextguest.
He knows all about the hustleculture.
He is a rapper.
I have seen his videos onTikTok.
I've seen them on IG.
I love everything that he does.
(04:00):
We are going to talk about itlater on, but let me introduce
you to the rap phenomenonchanging the game doing his thug
thistle, juno flow run thatclip Jumpin', jumpin', jumpin'.
(04:21):
Got bougie on my neck.
She like my chain she beggin'up on me.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I forgot her name.
I'm too turnt up.
I ain't lookin' for love.
Ain't got no diamond rings foryou, but just for the night I
think I'm custom made for you,fresh in a white tee checks all
on me.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Like I left Nike, ooh , she got Pisces.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Swim to the lake boy, if you wanna fight me Out
inside the club, I go by 290,just want a photo.
We don't call the police, wecall the homies.
G-l-x on me, bitch, wreck himoff me.
Ay what?
Okay, I'm too Turned up, turnedup Pour that 1942 up in a cup.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Ay yeah, kick him in the top Off, top off, top off,
top yeah, cause I don't need nolove.
Listen, Juno, juno, flo.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Come on, juno.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Thank you, alethea, I appreciate it, oh my goodness,
listen, I was yeah, yeah, don'tyou know.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Oh man, I love the energy.
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
So I have already introduced you, but can you
introduce yourself to thebeautiful people that watch in
the passenger seat?
Can you tell us who you are andwhat you do?
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, absolutely.
What's up, guys?
My name is Juno, I go by JunoFlo and I am a I'm an artist,
songwriter and produceroriginally from Los Angeles, but
now I'm based in New York.
So I've yeah, I've been makingmusic for most of my life and
(05:56):
you know I'm here now, so gladto be here with you so how did
you start out making music Like?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
how did you say, ok, this is what I want to make
music.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, it's actually funny because I had like the
very typical Asian householdupbringing where my mom forced
me to play piano and I hatedevery second of it.
When I was a kid, I was like Ithink I played for like 10 years
and I hated every second of it.
When I was a kid, I was like Ithink I played for like 10 years
and I hated every second of it.
(06:29):
For some reason, like you know,it was like this thing where,
because I was forced to do itand, like you know, I learned it
, I got better at it, but at theend, when I finally quit like
my piano lessons, that was likeone of those days where I was
like, oh my god, like I'm sohappy that it's done now.
Yeah, but but now that I lookback, like I'm I'm very grateful
(06:51):
for my parents for you know,for for doing that to me,
because because I feel like thatkind of embedded like music
into my brain, and then, um, andthen I started writing.
You know I started writing.
You know I started writing likesome poetry and like I wanted
to rap back in like high schoolbecause I didn't have like a
(07:11):
recording set up or anything.
I don't even have a computer.
So I asked my roommate.
(07:33):
I'm like, hey, could I borrowyour MacBook?
I want to use your garage bandand and I have my.
You know, I have my littleApple earphones, the wired ones
yes.
So I connected it and I wrotelike this rap over over, like
this jazzy hip-hop beat that Ireally loved, and so I was like
I recorded it and I was likecool, like I mean I don't know
(07:54):
how to engineer, like I knewnothing.
I all I knew was I wanted torap.
Okay, I recorded in garage band, then I posted it on soundcloud
and I posted it on SoundCloudand then I posted it on Facebook
to all my Facebook friends atthe time and I'm like hey, guys,
like check out my rap.
Speaker 1 (08:10):
Like this is me like check this out what y'all think
like this me right here yeahyeah, exactly yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
So I posted it and you know, I got a good response
and then one of my friends onFacebook was like hey, he
messaged me on the side.
He was like, hey, if you wantto record, like I have a studio,
you should come.
So I was like whoa, you know,like, oh, that that's really
cool.
So that opened up a whole newworld for me and I got, I got
(08:40):
more passionate and more seriousabout OK, cool, like I'll, like
I want to do this.
So I made a mixtape.
Then I made like a duo groupwith my buddy, paul.
We were called the Native Souls.
Okay, so we were doing like youknow, a lot, we were just taking
like very popular classic hiphop beats and we're just rapping
(09:02):
over them.
You know, like a lot of TrapCalled Quest of like a lot of
wu-tang stuff.
And then, uh, um, yeah, andthen 14 years later, you know
I'm I've been through a lot of alot of ups and downs on this
music journey.
It took me to a lot ofcountries.
(09:23):
I moved to korea for a littlebit because I got signed to a
label out there, oh, cool.
So I was, um, living in koreafor about four years, from 2016
to 2020 and making music inkorean or like.
I guess like 50 50, it was likehalf English, half Korean.
(09:43):
Okay, um, yeah, and I'm tryingto like, I'm trying to like
think of the condensed versionright now, because I feel like
there's so much I can tell you,but, um, but yeah, yeah, yeah, I
mean, uh, should I keep going,or, or?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
listen, I know that doing what you do record you
said 14 years.
So doing what you do, and alsoyour background, like we, you,
you're, you're raised, like look, I gotta work, got to get it, I
(10:22):
got to do it, I got to push, Igot to push.
And the what does the hustleculture mean to you and do you
implement that in what you'redoing now?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, no, that's a that's a great question.
That's a great question andalso this topic.
Uh, it's cool that we'retalking about this because this
is something that, like, I'vealways thought about and felt
and I was actually just having aconversation with my buddy the
other day about it, um, but,yeah, like, I feel like I was
raised into the hustle culture,like, especially, especially
(11:01):
like being, you know, beingKorean, and you know my, my
family and my upbringing hasalways been like you got to
excel at everything.
You do Right and and whateveryou do, like make sure you're
the best at it and be good ateverything.
I grew up in that way where Ihad to be extremely competent
(11:26):
and I had to put in my all foreverything or else I'd be
grilled for it.
And musically, too, I didn'tknow a lot of how it'll be these
long nights, long hours, nosleep, like I'm probably going
to have to be in situationswhere there's a lot of alcohol
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involved for extended periods oftime and like you know, all
these things that have to dowith hustle culture too, like,
even though that when peoplethink of, like clubbing and
partying and stuff like you knowthey, they think of it as like,
oh, you're just having fun.
But I realized once, yeah, likeonce I got into the music world
, I was like, oh, this is work.
(12:09):
Yeah, I'm working all day, thenI'm going to the club and I'm
working all night.
You know, like, um, so that'ssomething I learned over the
years.
And, yeah, like the, the hustleculture is definitely, uh, it's
like very prominent right now.
Everybody wants to be the.
You know, like all grind, nosleep.
(12:30):
Yes, and I've also been thatperson and I, I'm, I'm still
guilty of it now because I, Ijust work as much as I can
because I feel like I'm notwhere I aim to be yet.
So, um, yeah, I'm still guiltyof it, but I'm, I'm trying to
balance it out, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
How did?
How did your background?
Because you, you, you said likeit was always I, I have to to
to be the best.
It was like you, you're best orit's just not good, good enough
.
You, you get, give, give ityour all or is nothing.
So how did growing up like thataffect you, positively and
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negatively?
Speaker 2 (13:20):
I feel like the positive aspect of it was that
it trained me mentally to wantto continue to seek knowledge
and the skill to be really goodat whatever I was interested in,
so it allowed me to be able tolearn and absorb information.
(13:46):
So I'm the type of person nowwhere, if I get into something,
if I'm really interested aboutthis one thing about production
and I was never a producer tobegin with, I was more of a
songwriter, rapper but because Igot interested in it, I locked
myself in my room and I justthat's all I did, all I learned,
(14:09):
cause I wanted to make surelike I get to a level where I
can display this to the worldand there'll be like oh wow,
this is good, you know, justjust like, objectively, I guess.
But um, so it allowed me tocondition myself to like keep
working harder and not like burnout in a sense, because I kept,
(14:33):
I was interested in learningmore.
What I thought was like perfect, I guess you know, but there
(14:55):
there is no perfect right.
Like you, you're just you'reyou and you're going to be as
good as you are in this moment,which is probably already good
enough, but we don't think itand I think that's how I've felt
most of my life.
Just not, not even in music,you know, just like in
(15:15):
everything else in life, likesocial norms and like just like
me presenting myself like in anytype of way.
But when it came to music, I waslike, oh, wow, yeah, like I'm
creating something and showingthis to the world to be like,
hey guys, look, you know, thisis me being vulnerable.
Look at what I made andeveryone is going to have a
(15:37):
judgment or opinion on it andyes, yeah, and that that always
like scared me because I wasalways a type to like, keep to
myself.
So sharing something with theworld was always like very
intimidating and I think I wasalways thinking I wasn't good
(16:00):
enough, so that would be thenegative side of the whole.
Like you know, the whole hustle, nonstop is like I kept
comparing myself and I was like,you know, I, I don't think this
is good enough, like no, no, Ineed to, I need to make it
better, I need to make it better.
But sometimes I I mean like nowI realize, like you know, what
(16:21):
like, like this is good, what?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
I have right here this is good because one of one
of those common myths in thehustle culture is constant
motion equals worse.
Like the the like lie is thatlike busier you are, but the
more valuable you are, right,like the the the more that you
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do, the more that you work, itequates to your value.
But running on empty isn'tnoble because it does not
sustain you.
Like it's true it.
Like you're running on emptyfor what?
(17:09):
Yeah, like what are you doingit for?
Like I was guilty, like I, Iused to feel bad about taking
breaks.
Like, like, like I would feelbad if I stopped.
Like if, if, if I would answerthe phone, if I would answer the
(17:31):
phone, if I would answer anemail right then and there, if I
wouldn't show up.
Y'all, if y'all don't hit.
You do not have to show up foreverything that everybody asks
you to do.
You do not have to show up.
The world does not stopspinning just because you you
didn't show up.
The world does not stopspinning just because you didn't
(17:53):
answer that email or answer thephone.
Like the world keeps going, butwe don't.
Yeah, absolutely, the worldkeeps going, but we stop because
we are exhausted.
Like productivity withoutpurpose.
(18:15):
Is this noise?
oh, that's real, that's like you, you, you, you just make a
noise like that's, that's just,it's just pots and pans just
hanging with, like you're justgoing yeah no, that's so real so
(18:36):
you said that you were like.
It made you compare yourself tolike okay, well, I'm, I'm not
good enough.
Like it, should I be better.
How did you overcome that,being in constant competition,
(18:57):
in essence, with yourself, likeyou were in constant competition
to always one up yourself?
How did you get over that?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
You know I feel like I'm still trying my best to get
over it.
You know I feel like I'm stilltrying my best to get over it.
I don't think I've fullysucceeded in that sense, but
I've learned and grown a lotfrom my time in the music
industry and world.
For the last eight years-ish,because that's when I started to
(19:37):
actually go full-time and Istarted to make a small living
out of music, I was like, wow,this is possible.
But because of that, there wasa lot of pressures that came
with it.
Over the years, like I kept, Ikept comparing myself to the
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players at the highest level,because I wanted to be, I wanted
to be up there.
You know, and I and I still doso.
Like everything that I do, I'malways thinking in my head like,
oh, like, can this compete?
Like, can this be played on theradio?
Can I hear this in a DJ setwith?
You know if, like Yadda Yadda'splaying it?
(20:20):
You know, like.
So I'm still growing intomyself, but I feel very proud
and you should.
Comfortable, yeah, thank you,and comfortable at where I am,
because I think I've found a bitof my voice over the years and
(20:44):
you know, of course, that wasthrough constant experimentation
, constant comparison, sad tosay, constant comparison, sad to
say.
But I would absorb the thingsthat inspire me, the things that
I would like to, or the type ofmoods or feelings that I would
(21:06):
also like to show when it comesto my music.
I thought about how can I makethis my own If there's this type
of flow that I take like fromyou know?
Let's just say like I like thisflow that Kendrick did over
here, but then it's like okay,like I don't want to just copy
that, like how do I make it myown?
(21:27):
How do I make it me?
I love it and that's somethingthat I'm constantly working at
and I'm trying my best to likeshare my story, because I feel
like that's what makes me me andnobody else can tell you the
story that I'm telling andnobody else can tell the story
(21:47):
that you're telling you knowyeah.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I love that and you know I don't think what people
realize.
I know for me because ithappened with me, because I was,
I was in band.
I was, I was a band nerd and Iplayed yeah, I played the
clarinet and I also played theob, the um oboe and I loved band
(22:14):
.
I like band, thank you, andband was my jam.
But the more pressure thatother people put on me and the
more pressure that I put onmyself to succeed, it takes the
fun out of it and and that'sexactly what happened Like it
takes the fun out of it and andthat's exactly what happened
(22:36):
like it took the fun out of justbeing in band, just having for
it.
It takes the fun.
So the the more that we try toreach a certain level of success
, it takes the fun out of whatwe're actually doing and the
like fun out of what we love.
And I love, I love, I love, Ilove that you have found a very
(23:01):
unique way to also have fun andpromote what you do.
So I I watched your TikTokvideos.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
And I love how you are true to you.
You incorporate fun, but you'realso pushing out your, your,
your like songs or like videos.
Your like songs, your likevideos.
Listen, okay, if y'all do notknow what I am talking about,
(23:55):
watch this.
I felt the highs, I felt thelows.
Sense of the chronic over thatleathery crown I always felt
like an outcast, like I was.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
from Atlanta, I was ditching class, yelling Caroline
with that blunt road, with thatpack of five more pack of heat
just to pass the time, my soulsharp like I'm in Camelot
Excalibur.
You ain't on my caliber, so youa baby with it and I love it,
thank you.
Thank you so much, I appreciateit.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
How did you come up with these concepts?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I just wanted to figure out a way to showcase my
music but also showcase a littlebit of my personality, because
that's something I alwaysstruggled with.
I was very to myself and Ididn't want to be all revealing
and like vulnerable and but thenyou know, these days you got to
(24:58):
.
People become fans of you as aperson, exactly, and that might
be a little more important thanthe fan of the music, because if
they just like you as a person,they're going gonna love
everything you do, right?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
okay, can you?
Can you just run that back onemore, because somebody,
somewhere, needed to hearexactly what you just?
Said yeah yeah, my goodnessyeah, it's, it's.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
It's something that I'm continually learning too,
because, you know, there's somany talented musicians out
there, so many talented people,producers, and you can make the
greatest song in the world, butif people don't like you for who
you are, then they're not goingto listen to the song, right,
and?
And if they do find a song,then then that's amazing and
they'll be like, wow, this is anamazing song.
(25:46):
But then if they go to check onyour like who you are as a
person's, like social media andwhatnot, and they'll be like oh,
this, this is boring.
Like, like, like there'snothing here.
Yeah, because, like you know,people love geniuses, but at the
same time, like they, they wantto be entertained in a way.
(26:06):
Yes, yes, and that's, uh,something I thought, I thought a
lot about, because there are somany videos out there that are
just like look at me rap, likeyo, this is me in a cool spot,
like there's a bridge behind meand I'm rapping, which I
actually did.
(26:30):
I got the Lambo in the back andI'm on the hood rapping.
You know like these are allvery common videos and I've made
all of these too.
You know like I've done all ofthese, but over time, people get
tired of seeing the same thing,right?
Speaker 1 (26:48):
And I feel like they want to know you.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, yeah, and, and I wanted to figure out, like,
how do I draw them in?
Be like, hey, look at, you know, this is something funny about
me.
And then like boom, and thenit's me rapping.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
so well, speaking of being vulnerable, we have come
to the segment of the showcalled ask aletheia, where a
follower sends in a scenario orsomething that they need help
with and I, as as well as myguests, give them advice.
(27:27):
Okay, so this is the ask,alethea, alethea how do I deal
with people who don't support mygrowth?
Ever since I started settingboundaries, focusing on my goals
and saying no more often, I'vehad friends, even family members
(27:51):
, act like I'm doing somethingwrong.
It's like they liked me betterwhen I was struggling.
How do I keep evolving withoutfeeling guilty?
So I mean, first of all and letme say this for the people in
(28:15):
the back there is absolutelynothing wrong with growing and
guarding your peace.
That is what you are supposedto do.
There is absolutely nothingwrong with that.
People who benefited from yourlack of boundaries will always
feel some type of way when youstart enforcing them.
(28:37):
They will always feel some typeof way when you start saying,
look, no, I'm not doing that,but that doesn't make you wrong.
It just means that you'rehealing, you're growing, you're
evolving, you're doing what youare supposed to do for you, and
(28:58):
not everybody is ready to meetthat new version of you because
they are comfortable with theold one.
But your job is not to makepeople comfortable.
Your growth will make peopleuncomfortable.
That just is what it is.
But it's not your burden tocarry.
Some folks like you better whenyou are smaller.
(29:22):
They like you better when youdim your light, and it's not you
being selfish, it's just youfinally choosing yourself.
So glow up guilt.
(29:43):
You shouldn't feel guilty aboutit.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
You are choosing yourself and that's what you
should do, you know I'veactually never heard that term
glow of guilt, but that's yeah,that's a.
That's a very good like term todescribe that.
(30:07):
Yeah, because, because peopledo you know, people get jealous,
people start hating when youstart doing good for yourself.
Yes, and it's.
It's funny to see, like, howthe people around you that you
thought were your friends canfeel that way.
That's yeah, yeah, just likeyou said, like people like it
(30:27):
when you are exactly where youare and if you end up doing
something that kind of surpasseswhat they might be doing,
they'll feel a way about it.
So that's so.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
So what advice would you give our follower that like
how do I not feel guilty aboutchoosing me?
Speaker 2 (30:55):
I, I feel like, yeah, like we, we all have to
continue to make decisions thatmake us feel good, whether
that's physical, mental orspiritual, because if you're
constantly giving away yourenergy and time to other people,
then at the end of the day, youhave nothing for yourself.
(31:15):
And this is something that I'vebeen practicing too.
It's like I always make sure Ihave time to sit with myself and
think about, like, where I amin life and mentally and what I
want to do and the things thatmake me happy and I go out of, I
(31:38):
go out of my way to make mehappy.
I feel like that's, that's whatI try to do.
And, um, there's this thing Ilearned recently called, uh,
it's called the artist state,right, okay, it's just like as
an artist or, as you know, asanybody, as yourself, right, but
it's called artist statebecause it was referring to
artists specifically.
(31:59):
But it's basically like youshould take yourself on an
artist state.
Take yourself on that date,whatever that thing may be that
can spark a curiosity in yourheart, or, uh, just anything
that interests you.
Just take yourself on that date, go go to that park, see that
(32:21):
statue, go to that I don't knowclay, build pottery class just
because you want it, you knowlike, like, but just do it
yourself and go for yourself andnot for anybody else, Because
if you take someone else withyou, then you're going to be
thinking about how does thisperson feel?
Are they tired?
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Oh, yeah, are they?
Speaker 2 (32:42):
are they hungry?
Oh, should we actually go thisway?
Should we go that way?
You know, like there are allthese other factors that come to
play um.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
So yeah, take yourself on that date and feed
your, your soul, you know I, Ilove when when you said and I am
going to use this in my lifeand I'm gonna start telling
other people this Go out of yourway to make you happy.
Go out of your way because wedo go out of our way for
(33:15):
everybody else.
Yes, but we rarely go out ofour way for us.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
So go out of your way to make you happy.
Mm-hmm Ooh, dropping knowledge,dropping boys.
(33:41):
Wait, wait, wait Speaking ofdropping bars.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
do you just freestyle or do you just write stuff down
?
There were a couple of songs inmy past that I've just
freestyled because I've justlike gone in there and did it.
But I feel like I'm I try mybest to write because so, so, so
so.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
so what you're saying ?
If I, if I like, give you alittle, oh man.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
I feel like I should be able to, but I feel like
right now it might be kind ofhard.
I probably should have cameready, though damn.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Just in case I would have dropped that.
Oh, my name is Juno.
I love it.
Oh, my goodness.
Listen, juno, I am so happythat you came to be in the
passenger seat with me before weget out of here, like we were
(34:48):
talking about burnout and how toreset.
So I have these are three toolsthat'll help you reset and get
out of that burnout mentality.
First of all, I need you toremember productivity without
(35:10):
purpose is just noise.
You define your own version ofsuccess.
You, not your boss, not socialmedia, just you.
You define your own level ofsuccess.
(35:31):
Number two schedule.
Rest like that bitch is ameeting.
Schedule your rest.
Put that in your planner.
Look, today I'm going to rest,I'm rest.
Schedule it.
Put it on your look, becauserest is what?
(35:52):
Fundamental, because I lovenaps.
Number three celebrate qualityover quantity.
Quality over quantity.
One focused hour, just one hourof you being totally focused,
(36:14):
totally zoned in beats.
Eight distracted hours.
If you just have one hour ofgood focus and three hours of
nonsense, which one is better?
Quality over quantity, that ishow you reset, that is how you
(36:35):
keep yourself from burnout.
So we're going to do two morethings before I let you leave.
Now you do have a new albumthat is out, or you do have an
album just Juno.
Can you give us a little?
(36:56):
Yeah, what is what is?
What is just just Juno?
What, what is it about?
Where can we find just Juno?
Can you give us a quick littlerundown of that?
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah, absolutely so.
The latest album that I droppedit was last June.
It's titled Just Juno, becausethat album was a.
It was it was like a sonicjourney of my life in the last
couple of years of my life inthe last couple of years, like
(37:32):
the last two to three years, andI felt like it was a great
representation of like who I amand who the type of artists that
I want to be, because if youlisten to the album, there's a
lot of genres that are blendedin there.
Like I used to just makeprimarily hip hop and R&B and
that was it.
But over the years, like youknow, I love all types of music
(37:55):
and I've grown to be courageousenough to be like oh, you know
what?
Like I could do that too, youknow.
And and I love experimenting Ilove hearing sounds that like
I've never heard before, I'venever used before, and
showcasing it in a way like,look, this is different.
(38:15):
Because I don't want to keeppumping out the exact same music
.
I don't want to keep making thesame songs that you hear on the
radio or that go viral, becausethen I'm just cloning myself to
these other people.
So that's why it's titled JustJuno, because I thought it was
just me.
And in the album I mix a lot ofhip hop, a lot of dance music.
(38:38):
There's a bit of house, a bitof like UK garage, a little bit
of techno and a little bit ofsoul.
So that album is theculmination of like just
everything that I've beenworking on.
And I also created it in thatway, because I got into DJing
(38:59):
about two, three years ago and Iwanted to make music that I
could also just DJ out.
If I'm doing a house set, ifI'm doing a classic house set,
like if I'm doing like a classichouse set, then I want to have
music that I made that I couldput in there too, rather than
just playing like all otherpeople's music.
So I love it so that was myambition with that album.
(39:21):
Um, I'm pretty proud of itbecause I produced, uh,
everything on there with thehelp of my buddy Doomsday and my
other buddy, chucky.
So it just felt like everythingthat was in my brain, that like
the chaos in here.
I got to structure it in somesonic way and that's what that
is.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
I love it.
Oh my gosh.
So can you tell us where tofind not only that album, but
things juno flow yeah, uh, I'mon spotify, apple, every
streaming platform under junoflow.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
J-u-n-o-f-l-o.
Uh.
Same thing with instagram,tiktok, youtube.
It's all under juno flow.
Oh, no wait, tiktok's underjiggy juno, I think okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
So the last thing that we do is something called
pass it on, where we, you passon something motivational,
(40:33):
positive.
It can be a quote that youheard or something that just
comes from you.
So what do you want to pass?
Speaker 2 (40:48):
um, I would say, uh, this is something that I've been
feeling a lot lately.
But, um, ask for help, and yourfriends around you or the
people that surround you thatbelieve in you and love what you
(41:12):
do, they will be glad to helpyou.
Because I've grown up with thiswhole mindset of like I have to
do it myself, like I have tosucceed by myself, like I can't
ask for no favors, I can't be indebt to anybody.
But then over time I realized,like we can't, we can't do it,
(41:35):
we can't do everything ourselvesand we need the people around
us.
And, uh, we shouldn't feelashamed of asking for help in
any way or form, because if, ifwe do, the person who is being
asked, they might also be happythat you asked.
They'll be like, wow, you thinkthat I can help you, and
(41:57):
because of that they might, youknow, it'll make them feel good
too.
It's like look, let me help you.
Because if my friend asked mefor help, I'd be like yeah, let
me help you, like whatever way Ican.
My friend asked me for help.
I'd be like, yeah, like, yeah,let me help you, like whatever
way I can.
So I'm trying to think that waytoo.
We're like, oh yeah, like ask,ask for help and the people
around you will help you for it.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Oh my gosh, I love it .
I love it.
Oh my God.
Thank you so much for beingwith me in the passenger seat.
Listen, guys, the hustleculture.
It will sell you a dream thatwill leave you drained.
It'll just leave you drained.
(42:41):
So now is the time to reclaimyour life.
Now is the time to refill yourcup.
And just think about this youdon't have to hustle every day
to be worthy.
You already are worthy.
You are doing enough.
You are doing enough.
(43:03):
If you are doing your best,you're doing enough.
And, like I tell y'all all thetime, do your best and fuck the
rest.
I mean, that is just what it isDo your best and fuck the rest.
All right, listen, yourchallenge this week is to choose
(43:25):
one area where you can tradehustle for purpose.
Be intentional.
Be intentional Whether it'ssaying no to like a project or
just binge watching yourfavorite show.
If you are intentional about it, then you are doing a good job.
(43:49):
Do it for you, don't do it foranybody else.
Do it for you, all right.
So thank you for being in thepassenger seat with me.
Guys, send me those DMs, keepsending me those emails for
askaletheia.
Pimping positivity at gmailcom.
(44:12):
Pimping positivity at gmailcom,because you might be the next
one to be featured on in thepassenger seat.
Now listen, you know that youare everything and everything is
you, so I need you to go outthere and act like it.
You know that you are the andeverything is you, so I need you
to go out there and act like it.
You know that you are the shit,the whole shit, and nothing but
(44:33):
the.
What?
Yes, honey, the shit.
So go out there and act like it.
So, as you go out there and begreat in they face, always be
great in your own.
Now, honey, you be fabulouslike I know you can be and, as
always, you have a good day onpurpose.
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