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Tatiana (00:00):
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Hello and welcome to theintegrated wisdom podcast.
Thank you so much for joining mefor yet another week.
So one of the last times that Ispoke to you all was about two
weeks ago, When I was going awayto a master mind retreat.
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With some other psychologistsand therapists who are.
Mission driven and working on.
Building.
businesses, in line with thosemissions and who're s eeking to
create.
Large-scale impact.
It was a really incredible weekconnecting with other
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like-minded individuals.
It was an opportunity to relax alittle bit, unwind.
But when I came home, I wassurprised to discover.
A.
New housemate.
Who is Beautiful gorgeous.
Four legged and furry.
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and it's my new little Frenchbulldog puppy.
Eros.
Who my husband decided tosurprise me with.
And to say that the last twoweeks.
Have been a steep learning curveis the understatement of the
century.
he is absolutely beautiful andhas stolen my heart already.
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But he's also stealing my sleep.
And as.
Left me feeling very incompetent a lot of the time in
trying to figure out how to bestcare for him.
And learn all the ways in whichwe need to adapt, our schedule.
To accommodate our new familymember.
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And.
Over the last couple of days asI've been reflecting on.
These adjustments and all theemotions that have come with
having Eros, join our family.
It had me reflecting on.
I guess the spiritual lessons.
That we can get from our petsmore generally.
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But also, dogs in particular.
Uh, I've historically neverreally had pets.
I've never had a dog before, soI really am.
In the deep end, at the moment.
I know that animals.
Have.
So many.
Beautiful lessons to teach us.
And that's what I wanted to talkabout today.
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What are the spiritual lessonsthat our pets can Not just
spiritual, but in our pets havesuch a tangible and positive.
Impact on our mental health.
Or now health, this, obviouslythe companionship that we can
get from pets.
But also just.
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All the ways in which.
They help us become betterpeople in many ways.
So I thought I'd speak to that alittle bit today.
I apologize for all the otheranimal lovers and parents.
But I'm going to speak morespecific most specifically to
two dogs today.
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Because I think it's importantfor me to speak from my own.
My own experience.
But I think it pits in general.
And I hear this even from.
Cat parents.
And those who have other animalslike horses and.
I believe it or not.
Snakes.
Not a reptile fan but I thinkwhen we, those of us who have
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animals in our lives, are onlyenriched by that.
And when I stopped to thinkabout, okay, Animal server
purpose on earth too right,we've spoken in previous
episodes.
I've spoken about.
The purpose of humans have incoming to earth.
That we're here as souls tolearn to evolve that we're
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moving towards becoming pureunconditional love energy.
And learning can be.
Compassionate with ourselves andothers.
And then it begs the question.
So what is the purpose ofanimals?
Like why are animals on thisplanet?
And I think in many ways,animals are on their own
evolutionary trajectory.
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And you can see it in someanimals, right?
Like the personalities that theydisplay.
The.
The sensitivity that theydisplay the empathy that they
display.
The a lot of the time they'reembodying so many of the
emotions and the emotionalstates.
That we are all trying to workthrough as well as humans.
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And.
But I think.
A common question for people isdo they have a soul?
Uh, and the answer is yes, allliving beings have.
Uh, spirit energy.
If you think of spirit, as wespeak about spirit or soul, Uh,
spirit is just sentient energy.
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And.
I think all living beingspossess that energy to an
extent.
That includes animals that evenincludes plants.
In fact, there was somefascinating studies in.
I'm going to do another episodeon this separately.
But there have been somefascinating studies too.
To demonstrate the social natureof trees, for example, and how.
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How they communicate with eachother, how they care for each
other.
And they have almost like a.
A collective dynamic betweenthem.
It's very fascinating.
But I, that.
Warrants a whole episode on itsown.
But animals are no different.
They have their ownindividualized little souls.
And.
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The purpose that they serve, Ibelieve is.
They're here too.
To guide us.
And into assist us in our.
Evolution.
But I'm sure that they havetheir own little lessons too.
No, not to the same complexitythat we have.
But They have this.
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Already pure spirit, thisconnection with source.
That is very.
Integral to their essence,right?
You look at animals and theyembody.
This unconditional love sobeautifully.
There are like these littlemirrors to us.
That show us, this is what itlooks like.
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And I see it in my puppy at themoment.
I the first day that I had to goto work.
And leave him in his little playpen by himself.
I was, are sad.
I felt so bad for leaving herebecause obviously he's still a
puppy.
He was whining a little bit.
And he's breed one ofparticularly is quite attached.
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Two.
To the human parents.
He you whined a little bit inthat really broke my heart and I
thought, oh my gosh, I'mtraumatizing here.
He's going to hate me.
But then, I come back at the endof the day.
And he's just as excited to seeme and he's still jumping on
the, and he still wants my timeand my affection and he wants to
shower me.
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With his affection.
That is the embodiment ofunconditional love.
Isn't it.
That.
That demonstrational, if I canaccept.
Things as they are.
And.
I'm going to accept you as youare in your flawed state.
Yeah.
Sometimes you're going to dothings that I don't like.
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You know this, but.
I wouldn't be here and I'm goingto love you regardless.
And I'm going to accept you asyou are regardless.
So I think that's one of thebiggest lessons that animals.
I have to teach us.
This ability to Yeah, justaccept us as we are.
No matter what they look at uswith love.
For having a bad day or having agood day.
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We haven't given them that muchattention.
They're still, they're so eagerto engage with us and connect
with us.
And feel that loving bond.
So I think that's one that'sless than bill one and probably
the most important one.
I think lesson number two istheir ability to be so present.
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As far as we know animals,aren't thinking about tomorrow
and they're not relivingyesterday.
They're really in the moment andreally present with what's
immediately in front of them.
And there is so much for us tolearn.
From their ability to do that.
To be able to just be in themoment, engage fully immerse in
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whatever activity that, where.
We're working through.
And I think.
When we pay attention closely toanimals, that's what they do.
They've got this ability to justbe there in the moment.
In their environment.
Enjoy it for what it is.
Uh, this is little cartoon thatI saw once it's like a meme.
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I so on sending it justillustrated this so beautifully.
It's a man and his dog walkingand.
The man has like a thoughtbubble with all these different
thoughts and he's thinking aboutwork.
He's thinking about home, he'sthinking about all sorts of
things.
And then when you look at thelittle thought bubble coming out
of the dog, it's just the dogthinking about.
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Him and his.
In his.
Human walking together.
All that exists for the animalsis what's there in that moment.
So much of Both.
Like spiritual concepts, but, oreven psychological concepts, we
know.
The ability for us to be presentin the moment.
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Can be such a.
An important and effective tool.
To help.
Transcend.
The tyranny of anxiety.
Anxiety's all about the future.
What if this, what if that inthe moment that future doesn't
exist when we're here right now?
And she believed withdepression.
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So much of depression is aboutthe past and the.
The regrets that we may have,or.
The near misses and the sadnessand the loss.
And worrying that when we'represent in the moment, when
we're grounded in the moment,again, we're disconnected from
all of that.
None of that exists.
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And so I think that ability tobe present.
That our animals.
So dogs can embody sobeautifully.
For us.
Is another great lesson thatthey have to teach us.
And I think so as part of theirpurpose, they're like these
little.
mini templates for us.
Of health simple life canactually be.
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I think the third lesson.
That animals have to teach us.
Dog's in particular, but I thinkall animals.
Is that.
Ability to be curious.
To be so interested in exploringthe world, exploring the
environment.
When I'm out with my puppy, hejust wants to get into
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everything he's in awe ofeverything, he's just Looking at
all the cars and people on the Fthe.
He leaves and the plants, and hejust wants to smell everything.
He wants to look at everythingyou wants to explore.
And I guess gets finds great joyin that.
And so I think that embodies areally important lesson for us
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too.
Ability to harness thatcuriosity.
That ability to still be.
Open and interested in theimmediate surroundings.
And we'll talk, you.
Environment.
In new places that we explore.
And the people around us.
To retain that curiosity.
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It keeps us psychologicallyflexible.
Which again is another reallyimportant tool of psychological
resilience.
But also I think opens us up toconnect with.
With source with our ability toremember that there is a larger
context of play.
Beyond all of this that we seeday to day.
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I think.
the fourth really importantlesson that we gained from our
pets, from our animals.
Is the ability to serve.
Is this an all service?
I should be ashamed to admitthis, but I'm going to share
this or.
Only with you.
I've always struggled withroutine in our eyes.
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I'm someone who.
I'm a nocturnal person.
I am a night owl.
I find getting up in themorning.
Really hard.
And getting into a routine forme, it doesn't come naturally.
I like to go with the flow ofhow I feel when I wake up in the
morning.
Except for the things that, weabsolutely have to do.
Work obviously has set times orcan't get around that.
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But for the most part, I like tokeep my days fairly flexible.
And it's amazing how in thesetwo weeks I've had.
Eros with us.
I am jumping out of bed.
The clock in the morning whenhe's crying to go out.
Or I'm getting up earlier everyday and making sure that he gets
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a walking a second walking.
Before I go to work.
And what not coming home fromwork.
At night often I get home aftereight.
Eight 30.
In the evening.
And, I'm still taking him outfor his walk in the evening.
No matter how I'm feeling, I'mjust doing it because it's
important for him.
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And it's really highlighted forme that lesson of service or
some of sometimes how we'recaring for other people.
We get benefits from that too.
Despite the fact that I am verytired.
In some ways, I'm also quitealert.
I'm quite energized.
I'm getting out every morningand getting sunlight, which I
hadn't always been doing.
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If any of this freezing coldthat we'd be having here in
Sydney.
I'm going out in the eveningwith him.
And I'm not going to lie.
I am doing it because of him.
I'm doing it for him.
I'm certainly not doing it formyself.
So I think one of the.
Most beautiful lessons as well.
That our animals have to, toshow sell friends, have to show
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us.
Is how much there is to begained in being serviced to
others.
In caring for someone other thanourselves.
Uh, not more than us ourselves,right?
There is a difference betweenservice and self sacrifice.
They're not the same thing.
I used to think that they werethe same.
And I've since learned thatthey're not.
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So being in service to someoneelse or to something else isn't.
About letting go of my ownneeds, but it's extending beyond
my needs.
It's ensuring that I'm caringfor myself, but I'm also caring
for that other being.
And there's an abundance ofresearch that shores.
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How service to others.
Has.
Far reaching physiological andmental health benefits for us.
And it has a spiritual in hisspiritual benefits too.
I believe.
It helps us connect with source.
It helps us connect with theessence of our nature.
It helps us exercise that, thatmuscle of compassion.
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Self-transcendence of Connectionwith others.
So all of these elements I thinkare in the service of serving us
in that way.
And, even in my clinical work,There's been more than once
where I have seen animals be alifeline for my clients when
they are in their Darkestmoments.
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Clients who were struggling withisolation and loneliness.
And, uh, and consequentlydepression stemming from that or
being exacerbated by that.
Who once they, they sought tohave rescue or pet and care for
another living being.
It gave their life purpose.
It gave them a sense of meaning,gave them something to get up
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for in the morning to keep goingto find joy in life.
Again.
And so it's almost thisreciprocal relationship that
becomes it's so beautiful.
The person is gaining all thesebenefits for caring for that
animal.
And that animal is getting allthe benefits of being loved and
cared for too.
I think it's such a greatillustration of that reciprocal
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relationship, that service that,that.
Benefits everybody.
That doesn't come from a placeof lack that doesn't come from a
place of resentment.
It's a genuine.
Giving and caring and nurturing.
It brings out the best of us.
Uh, I think that's what animalsdo for us.
And they can connect us closerto our spiritual essence.
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And.
Yeah.
So I think, those are.
One of the most important.
Lessons.
Then our L animals have to sharewith us.
And for those of you who haveanimals.
I'll love to hear.
You know that the role that youranimals have played in your life
and the lessons that you havegained from them.
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I've just listed four corelessons that I.
I can immediately observe justin.
In having errors in my life.
These last two weeks.
I'm sure this is not anexhaustive list by any means.
And so I would love to hearfrom.
From your own.
What are some other what aresome other.
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Lessons that you, your pets haveyour And what are some other
lessons that your animals haveled you towards, have helped you
to realize.
So again, I'm going to, just torecap.
Oh, animals have the capacity toshow us.
What unconditional love lookslike.
They have the capacity to showus.
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We're being present.
Looks like how to embodypresence every day in every
activity that we do.
Oh, animals have the capacity todemonstrate that openness and
curiosity.
And join exploring.
The world around us and peoplearound us.
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Keeping that.
That open, curious spirit.
In everything that we do.
And lastly, they have visibilityto help us understand.
The self transcending benefitsof service of nurturing someone
else or something else.
Caring for another living, beinghow important it is, how
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interconnected we are.
Having some ways on needs andthe same.
And it demonstrates helps us toconnect with that sense of
oneness.
That helps us transcendourselves and puts everything
into context into a largercontext.
So I'd love to get you thinkingabout yeah.
How.
Uh, or your relationship withyour animals can be a spiritual
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lesson too.
It can be a spiritualconnection.
And as I said, I'd love to hearfrom those of you who do have
animals or have had animals inthe past.
Some of the lessons that theyhave taught you.
Some of the beautiful benefitsthat they have brought to your
lives.
And.
It's a steep learning curve.
They obviously do made a lot ofthe time and intention.
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So we're in the process oftraining him at the moment.
And I think in the service ofmyself and being able to sustain
my own wellness and.
And.
Health.
I'm going to just scale back thefrequency of the episodes for
now.
Just to make it sustainable.
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I want to be able to show up foryou fully.
But also want to be able to bereally present with Eros in
these early weeks of his life inour family.
As he adjusts to us and weadjust to him.
So just for a brief period oftime, I'm going to space out the
episodes to fortnightly.
Just for the next month or so.
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So until the end of July, I'llbe doing just fortnightly
episodes.
And We'll resume weekly episodesfrom August.
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