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In this follow-up to one of our most popular episodes, we take a look at how and why your pets wind up being in your interspecies family together. Is it just random chance? Or could there be a soul agreement in place for those animals to share time together just like there is for people? Find out in this episode.

What you will learn:

  • How pet soul contracts are the same yet different from the soul agreements we have with our pets
  • 8 of the most common types of soul agreements two pets can have with each other
  • A 9th "hidden" soul contract that you really need to know about!
  • How pet soul agreements work when you only have one pet at a time
  • Practical signs to watch for that can help you identify the pet soul contracts as they activate in your animal family.

Related podcast episode: 8 Types of Soul Agreements Which One Do You Have?

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome back to let's Talk to Animals, the podcast
all species can enjoy together.
My name is Shannon Cutts.
I am an animal sensitive andintuitive, a Reiki master
practitioner and an animalcommunication teacher with
animallovelanguagescom and forour purposes here today, I am
also your friendly neighborhoodhostess and guide through the

(00:25):
wild, wise and wonderful worldof interspecies communication.
Call me crazy, but I trulybelieve that animal
communication has the power tosave, heal and restore our
planet for all species to enjoyand share.
When we learn to communicatewith one another, we begin to
realize we are so much morealike than different.

(00:46):
We care about each other.
We become friends.
On this podcast we talk aboutwhat the animals have to say and
share and why our pets trulyare our partners, empathic
friends and teachers.
I am so glad you have joined ushere for this fresh new episode
of let's Talk to Animals, solet's dive in.

(01:08):
Welcome back to let's Talk toAnimals, shannon.
Here, your friendlyneighborhood hostess and guide,
and today on the docket, we arefinally diving into part two of
what has become one of the mostpopular episodes here on let's

(01:28):
Talk to Animals, if you rememberlistening to the episode on
eight of the most common typesof soul agreements that you can
have with your pet.
Well, today we're going to takethat one step further.
Now you might be askingyourself how could we possibly
take soul contracts, soulagreements, with my beloved pet

(01:50):
any further?
Isn't that as far and as deepas we can go?
And to answer that question,yes and no.
Have you ever looked around?
This is especially for those ofyou who have ever had more than
one animal in your interspeciesfamily at a time.
So maybe you've had two dogs,or a dog and a cat, or, like our
family, you've had a dog and abird and two reptiles.

(02:13):
And you've looked around andyou've become aware of how many
animals there are alive on thisplanet right now and have been
filled with awe and wonder thatthe specific animals that you
love so much have all found you,and you have found them, and
here you are sharing your familylife together.
Please tell me it's not just mewho sits around and thinks

(02:34):
about these things, but have youever wondered do those animals
that are in your interspeciesfamily, in your pet family, do
they share soul agreements withone another?
If it's such a miracle that youand your pet found one another,
could it perhaps be that it'sequally miraculous that the

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animals in your family have allcome together with one another.
Now, for those of you who havebooked pet sessions with me or
you're currently sorting throughinterspecies family issues
let's just call them areas wheremaybe you're seeing some
reactivity or some timidity orsome separation, anxiety or some

(03:18):
aggression or some behaviorsbetween the animals in your
family that indicate that all isnot well, that all is not super
duper happy, shiny, friendlyfeelings between the two animals
.
Well, we're going to unpackthat too For us with our love of

(03:40):
animals, of course, here atlet's Talk to Animals podcast,
if you're listening and ifyou're still listening, you've
been with me for multipleepisodes or perhaps multiple
seasons.
We're a community of empaths.
We love our animals.
We love our pets so much thatwe are willing to invest our
personal time to tune intopodcasts like this, to learn

(04:01):
animal communication, to investin family meetings, pet sessions
.
For many years before I becamea professional animal
communicator, I was hiringanimal communicators and I would
have periodic family meetings.
I called them to check in witheverybody in my interspecies
family, make sure everything wasgoing well, make sure that any

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issues hurt feelings, jealousies, resentments, inadequacies in
the care I was providing that wewould be able to talk about
these things and sort these outso that we could have the type
of healthy, happy, harmoniousfamily life that was my big
picture intention for everyonein our family.
So if you're listening to thisand you're thinking, well, how

(04:44):
could my pets have a soulagreement with one another if
they don't seem to like eachother or if they don't get along
?
Well, keep listening.
We're going to talk about that.
Soul agreements are not alwaysthe fluffy happily ever after
soul meetings that we might hopeor anticipate that they would
be.
Soul agreements first andforemost, fundamentally, are

(05:09):
about learning and growth, andfor those of you who are brand
new to let's Talk to Animalspodcast and you're just joining
me for this episode you can goahead and keep listening, but I
would encourage you to go backand listen to the podcast
episode called Eight DifferentTypes of Soul Agreements with
your Pet.
Which one do you have?

(05:29):
Because that's going to fill insome of the information that
I'm not going to go into in thisepisode.
That relates more directly toyour soul agreement that you
share with each pet in yourfamily, and you might have
different soul agreements withdifferent pets in your current
or past interspecies family, soI'm not going to go into some of
those details because I alreadycovered them and it's just a

(05:51):
preface to what we're about todive into.
First and foremost, if you'renew to me, I want you to know
that I am not sitting alone in acloset somewhere cooking all of
this stuff up.
These are not my private pettheories, so to speak, probably
pun intended, but rather in aclear, pure fashion, I am simply
sharing with you what theanimals teach me each and every

(06:30):
day as I'm talking with them,and I'm also going to add the PS
which I always add in everyepisode.
This is what I've learned todate and it is not meant to be
representative of all there isto know, so please don't listen
to this episode and think well,that is just the way soul
agreements work.
That is the way soul contractsare.

(06:51):
There is always more to learn.
I am always learning more.
I have learned more since Irecorded that episode on soul
agreements we share with ourpets and I will continue to
learn more.
And as I learn more, I willcontinue to share what I learned
with you.
And I will continue to learnmore.
And as I learn more, I willcontinue to share what I learned
with you, and I also want youto know how welcome you are to
share what you learn with me.

(07:12):
So we are learning and growingtogether, and the reason I want
to preface everything else we'regoing to talk about with that
statement is because another keytidbit of information, wisdom,
that the animals have sharedwith me, is that nobody comes
into a physical incarnation herein what they call earth school,
into what they call thesespacesuits, these physical

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bodies.
Nobody comes here without atleast two primary agenda items
One is we have something tolearn and two is that we have
something to teach, and so whenwe're looking at a soul
agreement, a connection that weshare with another being, we're
looking at teaching themsomething and we're looking at

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learning something from them,and we're looking at that being
a two-way street.
So your pet is here in yourlife to teach you something and
you are in your pet's life toteach them something.
Your pet is in your life tolearn something from you and you
are in your pet's life so thatyou can learn something from
them.
And all of this, as I mentioned, I go into it a little bit more

(08:20):
detail in the prequel, if youwill to this episode.
These soul agreements arecreated at the energetic level,
at the light body level, so whenwe're in the etheric or the
soul space, and they activatewhen we enter these bodies and
we meet, when we're both in aphysical body.
And that's how the soulagreement activates and that's

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the moment when you point andyou say I'll take that one.
Or you see a photo continuallyscrolling on your social feed
and something in your heartreaches out and you go down to
the shelter to meet that animal.
Or you're looking at breederwebsites in one particular
animal, their story just speaksto you in a way that no story
has ever spoken to you beforeand you just feel compelled to

(09:04):
reach out.
So that's how soul agreementstypically activate and there's
all different flavors of that.
But what we're going to look athere today is it is no accident
especially for those of you whohave had several animals in your
family at one point in time, oryou do now it's no accident
that those animals are in yourfamily right now and that they

(09:26):
have come together in aparticular configuration, that
they've come together In thesame way.
I'm going to add one littlebonus that we'll talk about at
the end.
If you currently only have oneanimal in your family, then know
that that is very specific andthere's a reason for that too.
Then know that that is veryspecific and there's a reason
for that too, and we'll talkabout that right at the end.

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But, going forward upfront,what we're looking at is just as
you share a very specific soulagreement with each animal in
your family.
Whether you have all youranimals are in spirit, whether
you have one animal in a bodyright now living with you,
whether you have two, one animalin a body right now living with
you, whether you have two,three, multiple animals, each of

(10:12):
those animals you share a soulagreement with a specific reason
why you agree to keep companywith each other in physical body
form.
And this is the fascinating partfor our episode today.
Each of your animals shares asoul agreement with one another.
Mind blown right.
That's the part where my littlebrain circuits I could just
hear them popping off andexploding.
They're going wow, that's a lotto keep track of and it's also

(10:34):
really profound and sointeresting.
And I am going to walk youthrough eight of the most common
types of soul agreements thatyour animals may share with one
another, as well as some of themajor lessons that those soul
agreements have both to teacheach animal and also as a form

(10:58):
of instruction and learning andongoing evolution for you.
So there are all kinds ofinterconnections, but each
animal retains free agency overtheir life path, the reasons why
they come here, the strengthsthat they bring into their
physical bodies, the wisdom, thelessons they have to teach, the

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particular qualities that areemphasized, what they have to
offer and to give, as well aswhat we might call their
challenges or their weaknessesor their sensitivities, the
areas that they've come toevolve through, to work on, to
grow through, to unfold or towork with or to even overcome.

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There is so much nuance in asoul agreement relationship
because, while we can do atremendous amount of work on our
own, when it's just me and me,just you and you, we do tend to
learn and grow better and fasterwhen we partner with others who
can serve as our models and ourmirrors and our mentors and our

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students and our teachers.
We learn as much by passingalong what we've already learned
in the form of teaching as wedo by learning at the feet of
someone who's mastered somethingwe're still struggling through.
And that happens regardless ofspecies.
In fact, in my line of work asan animal intuitive and an
animal communication teacher, Ihave found that often our pets,

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our partners, empathic friendsand teachers are the most
profound teachers, the mostpowerful teachers in our lives,
because their teachings come tous in such a pure form, without
a shred of condescension orjealousy or judgment or

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neediness, so we can receive theopportunity to learn very
openheartedly, withoutfearfulness, without
self-guarding or evenself-judgment self-guarding or
even self-judgment.
So this is another reason whyinterspecies, family life, is so
powerful, so important and formany of us, probably for you as

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well, definitely for me, but foryou as well.
If you're listening to a podcastcalled let's Talk to Animals,
it's not optional.
If you really want to be yourbest self, having an animal
teacher in your life is anexperience not to be missed and
offers a level of learning thatis really unmatched because of
that unconditional love element.

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So let's get started and take alook at the first of the major
eight types of soul agreementsthat your animals can share
together and, as I mentioned,there's going to be a bonus,
number nine that we'll talkabout as well at the end.
But number one is and thismight surprise you, but it's all
around us.
You'll probably start seeing itall around you after we talk

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about it, but it is the romanticpartner.
The easiest place to see thisis when we look at, perhaps, a
breeder situation, or even abackyard oops breeder situation
where two animals mate and haveyoung, have puppies, kittens,
chicks.

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They have little baby turtles.
That is an example of theromantic partnership, soul
agreement that two animals mightshare together.
Now, having that soul agreement,it doesn't always look like
ours.
We're not necessarily putting aring on it, so to speak.
But to be quite honest and fairto our own species, we have a

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lot of what we'd call fly bymatings in our species too.
So having a soul agreement tohave a romantic encounter or
entanglement, it isn't alwaysabout a life of love and romance
.
It can be simply functional tobring other souls into the world

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, all those little puppies andkittens and turtles and birds.
They need to come through andget their bodies in some way,
and so this can be a morefunctional type of soul
agreement than we might expect.
But having said that, if youhave animals in your family who

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exhibit romantic tendenciestowards one another, even if
maybe they're fixed.
Maybe they are a match pair forbreeding purposes or maybe they
just have that energy aboutthem where they are so loving
with one another and they'rejust joined at the hip and it's

(15:41):
got the specific flavor of thehip and it's got the specific
flavor of I love you so much.
And if you've ever foundyourself getting a little
jealous those two animals andwondering or feeling like you're
in a triangle or you're thethird wheel, this is a flashing
light bulb moment that your twopets might share soulmate

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partnership, soul agreement witha romantic flavor towards one
another.
And again, this can be somewhatfunctional.
It might be an oops moment.
I spoke with a pet parent acouple of weeks ago whose dog
had gotten pregnant by anotherdog in their family and it

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seemed like an accident becausethey hadn't realized when they
adopted the two dogs that theyweren't fixed yet they were
actually told that they were anddidn't bother to check under
the hood, so to speak, to see ifthat was accurate and surprise.
So on the surface we might lookat that and think, well, that
doesn't really seem like aromantic soulmate agreement.

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And yet the little puppies arethe proof that we need there is
a soul agreement in place tousher new souls into the world.
And even if it's a little bitfunctional and it doesn't look
like our Hollywood romances,there is a flavor of romance.
Well, we're calling for our PGshow here, romance as an element

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.
And if you listen to the eighttypes of soul agreements prequel
episode, you also heard me saythat we can have several
different flavors of soulagreement throughout our
lifetimes together, but theretends to be one that is the most
dominant.
And so if we're taking a lookat two animals who maybe they

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bred in a kind of an oopssituation, well, their soul
agreement may or may not staysoul mate, soul partners.
It may transition out of that,especially if they're both fixed
, and there may or may notcontinue to be that kind of a
romantic flavor or feeling totheir partnership.

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That might transition.
And we're going to go throughseven other types of soul
agreements that our pets canshare together and you might
notice, well, it's transitioningmore to best friends or more to
platonic soulmates, et cetera,et cetera.
But if there's ever been abreeding, or if you've just got
two animals who love one anotherto such distraction that you

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genuinely sometimes feel like athird wheel, this can be
indicative of the romanticversion of the soul partnership,
what I'm calling soul partners.
There's also the other flavor,which is the platonic soul
partner.
The platonic soul partner aretwo animals who are joined at

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the hip or the beak or the tailor the paw or the claw, but it's
more, just like we are partners.
You might find that these twoanimals tag, team one another to
support you.
You might find that one of themis always what we might call on
duty to watch over you and tobe your companion and that they

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take turns in that role.
And so you feel like you havetwo soul partners in your life,
each with a different flavor buteach equally deep at that soul
level.
Here's a great example from oneof my pet parent clients.
I talked with her and she saidtalked with her and she said my

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two dogs were so close that if Igave a treat to one she
wouldn't take it until she madesure I was also giving a treat
to the other one.
And so there's this feeling ofeverything shared equally and
that's that soul partner level.
We don't have the romanticflavor, but we do have this real
feeling of equity.
We share everything equally.

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We share our toys.
We want to make sure that if Iget something, you get something
.
We're not aggressive about oneanother's food or resources.
In fact we're giving, and oftenyou will also feel like they're
both there for you with thesame degree of intensity.

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So If one is, for instance,recovering from something, or
one needs to take a nap, or oneis just off doing their thing or
over at training class orwhatever, the other one is going
to be there with you andthey're just tag teaming one
another.
With either animal, you feelthat same depth, even if it's a

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little different in terms oftheir personality.
You feel that same depth ofconnection and partnership.
So it's really one type of soulagreement.
If we're splitting hairs, thesoul partner, but two different
flavors.
You've got more of the romanticsoul partner.
We've got more of the platonicsoul partners that we can see
between our animals.
The next type of soul agreementthat our animals can share with

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one another is parent-child orchild-parent, and this can be
not only the formal side.
For instance, if we've got aromantic soul agreement going on
and then we have a continuationwith a different animal in the
family, let's say, two animalshave mated and had puppies or
kittens or birds, and then wesee the parenting happens.

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So that's the unfoldment of asoul contract with a different
animal.
But we can also see this soulagreement between two animals.
For instance, a few weeks ago Iwas talking with a pet parent
and she had an elderly cat andthen they adopted a very young
cat and the older cat took theyoung cat under her wing or

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under her paw is probably abetter analogy and it was like
this young cat, barely out ofkittenhood, became her kitten,
her child.
And sometimes we'll see thatit's not always about
chronological age, it can justbe about temperament and
personality and need.

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Sometimes we can see this evenbetween animals of different
species, and we might see a dogadopt a cat.
Sometimes you see that in yoursocial feeds where the heading
is something like unlikelyanimal friends.
And when this happens at thesoul level, at the energetic
level, what we're looking at isthe soul agreement of

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parent-child or child-parent.
On the one side we've got theanimal whose soul agreement it
is to act as the parent or theguardian or the carer, and on
the other side we've got theanimal whose part of the soul
agreement is to act as thedependent or the child or the
chick or the kitten or the puppy, et cetera, et cetera, and this

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can be a very powerful soulagreement as well.
Often what you'll see with youranimal is you'll see that you
have a partnership soulagreement with the animal who's
the parent to that other animal.
So it's like you're not havingto raise your kitten all by
yourself because you have yourolder cat who's also sharing, or

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co-parenting, if you will, withyou.
So that's where we can get intothese more complex soul
agreements that are sofascinating.
It's like I don't have toparent my new kitten or my new
puppy or my new chick alonebecause this other animal they
share a parent-child soulagreement with this other animal
in my family and they're goingto help me take care of this

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animal.
So that can be really actuallynice when it happens.
And often we'll see just agreat level of care and concern
that the parent or guardiananimal has for this younger
animal, checking in with themsometimes, maybe disciplining
them when they're too rough inplay or they are resource

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guarding, and the parent animaljust takes matters into their
own hands and gives them alittle course correction and you
don't have to do anything.
Sometimes, when you see ananimal who comes into your
family who's maybe a little shyor a little scared or just
doesn't know the ropes of how tobe in an interspecies family,

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and another animal will step upand take the lead.
That's a soul agreement betweenthose two animals activating.
Now where this can go a littlehaywire is when we humans adopt
an animal or we bring an animalinto our family who's having
trouble adjusting and we think Iknow what I'll do, I'll get

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another animal and that otheranimal can teach this animal
what I don't know how to teachthem.
And as you might imagine, andespecially if you've ever fallen
prey to this great idea of yournon-intuitive left brain
thinking, mind well, you knowhow well that tends to go and it
does prompt a fair number ofrequests for animal

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communication sessions on my end.
And often what we discover isthose two animals don't have a
soul agreement of parent-childand they're not able to fulfill
on your hopes.
So we have to do a littlecourse correction and find some
other ways of working throughthis mismatch in what we hope

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would happen and the type ofsoul agreement that those two
animals actually have and theydo have one Anytime an animal
wanders into your world and youhave existing animals in your
interspecies family, there issome level of soul agreement
that is activated.
Otherwise our paths would nevermeet.
Out of all the millions andbillions of humans and non-human

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animals alive on this planetright now, it is a bona fide
miracle when our path crosseswith that of another, regardless
of species.
So there's always a level ofsoul agreement that activates
and, as I shared more in theother, the prequel episode, that
soul agreement might be for areason which is typically a very

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short term.
It could be for a season, whichis maybe a little bit longer
term, it could be for a lifetime, and that's typically when we
see the pet reincarnation soulagreement.
So those of you who havereached out to me and have had a
session asking your soul pet toreturn to you through pet
reincarnation, that's when we'retalking about those lifetime

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soul agreements.
But if you foster a kitten,like I did for three months,
well, we had a soul agreementand we packed enough learning
into those three months to lastme a lifetime.
Even though I wish we had had alifetime.
Our soul agreement was a reason.
It was a very short period oftime.
So when we take a look at thesesoul agreements, we have to be

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respectful and realize there'salways a soul agreement
activating, but we can't placeour own human expectations on
the nature of that soulagreement or the length of it.
We also can't try to tellourselves there is no soul
agreement because there islength of it.
We also can't try to tellourselves there is no soul
agreement because there is,otherwise our paths would never
have crossed.
Instead, it's so vital to justdo what I teach all of my

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beginning animal communicationstudents Just notice, wonder,
get curious and see what unfoldsand trust your intuition about
it.
The next type of soul agreementthat our animals often share
with one another.
There's three types.
I'm going to go through threedifferent types, but they all
share a flavor of similarity.
The first one is siblings.

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Now, siblings can mean genetic.
For instance, one of my mom'sbest friends recently adopted
two sibling puppies.
So they're genetic, biologicalsiblings and they also act like
siblings.
So sometimes they argue,sometimes they share.
They have the same mom and dad,they've inherited similar DNA,

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so they have the sibling soulagreement on every level.
We see it in their DNA, we seeit in their behavior towards one
another.
Sometimes they're two peas in apod and sometimes they need a
timeout from each other andthat's just normal.
And, like most siblings, thatsoul agreement can shift and
evolve and change over thelifetime of the soul agreement.

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So animals that might be goingthrough a little bit of resource
guarding or not wanting toshare when they're little, well,
we might see that they workthrough that in a sibling soul
agreement as they get older andthey grow up.
Or maybe they don't.
And so just understanding thatsibling soul agreement, often

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where we find it is where we'vegot at least one biological
parent in common.
That's one flavor.
The second is what I call bestfriends.
So maybe they're not biologicalsiblings.
Typically these are notbiological siblings because the
sibling soul agreement when it'sin that state of we're not just

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siblings, we're soul sisters orsoul brothers or soul siblings.
Typically there's a geneticcomponent.
But often what we'll find istwo animals who have no genetic
relationship at all.
They are simply inseparable.
They love one another so muchand they do not want to be

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parted.
I see it a lot in certain animalspecies as well.
There can be an ongoing soulagreement in very social species
.
For instance sheep they justdon't do well.
Goats, they don't do well alone.
They really need to haveanother animal from their same

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species as a companion, as abest friend.
Sometimes we'll see this soulagreement activate when there's
a rescued animal.
For instance, I have a petparent client who had a very shy
horse and this horse justcouldn't seem to transcend his

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past history of never reallyfeeling like he was part of a
family.
And this happens with a lot ofhorses, especially in the
working fields and the racingfields, as this horse had been,
where they are periodicallytraded, like so many playing
cards every so often, and theyjust don't ever feel like
they're able to put down anyroots.
And this is a highly socialspecies that we're talking about

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.
And when my pet parent clientbrought a second horse into her
family.
Now, this doesn't always work,so don't think that it's an
automatic solution.
Oh, my horse is having troubleadjusting and calming down.
I'll just go get another horseto be their best friend.
No, it has to be the horse whohas the sole agreement with your
horse.
It's just like that example ofwell, I'll just get another

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animal to teach my rescue animalthe rules of the road.
That doesn't always work theway that we think it will and
the way our best intentions areheaded.
But in this particular case,when she brought this second
horse into the family, they justbonded and the one horse who
had such a calm dispositionbecame literally this other

(31:03):
horse's grounding rod.
That was how he describedhimself to me.
He said I am this other horse'sgrounding rod, he grounds on me
and that's that best friend'ssoul agreement.
There's also a flavor of thewise mentor or teacher and
student soul agreement embeddedin that particular story, so

(31:25):
that can be another flavor.
So we've got siblings, often butnot always, having a genetic
component, at least one parentor some DNA in common.
Or we're looking at two animalswho come into the family, often
at the same time, or are ofsimilar ages, and they have the
sibling connection.

(31:46):
Then we're looking at bestfriends and best friends.
They don't have to be the sameage, they don't have to have any
DNA, they don't even have to bethe same species and they are
just like siblings but theydon't have some of those other
hallmark components in commonand they are just partners in
crime, they are besties, theyprefer to do everything together

(32:09):
and again, sometimes it canfeel like you're a little bit of
a third wheel with these bestfriends because they have such a
strong soul agreement with oneanother and once we understand
that and we can take a step backfrom me and my needs and I am
as guilty of this as the nextperson.

(32:31):
My tortoise Malti is so in lovewith my cockatiel Petal that
it's like I'm not even in theroom.
I'm actually so in love with mymother that it's the same, I'm
not even in the room.
So I can take a step back andsay it's not all about me.
Yes, I have needs.
We're wearing all these hats,we're financing this whole

(32:51):
little family enterprise, we aretaking care of them, we're
serving them night and day VIPmaid service, all that good
stuff.
And so it can be a littlejarring when they seem to prefer
one another.
But just understand, you havethis rare window into this
secret life of our animals thatso few humans ever even become

(33:13):
aware of, and you have the greatgood fortune to give these two
animals who are having such agood time with one another and
are so enamored of one anotherand are just having such a blast
together.
You have created the safefamily space where they can
enjoy one another's company, andwhat a privilege that is.

(33:34):
So trying to take ourselves outof the mix a little bit.
Yes, our egos can get a littlehurt with this one, but just
understand how grateful youranimals are at that soul level
Because otherwise, with ourtop-down patriarchal approach,
where our animals are having togive up 99% of their freedom and
their autonomy and their powerof choice to live in our world,

(33:58):
the only way that these twoanimals are going to get to
spend time together is by youchoosing to create a safe family
environment for them to meetand do that.
So you are giving them a hugegift and with all our animals
give to us, isn't it wonderfulto know we do have the ability
to give back at that deep level.
Now the third flavor, if youwill, of this type of soul

(34:23):
agreement which is really moreequal, where we're looking at
siblings, best friends, more ofan equal partnership.
There's a different energy tofriendships or even siblings
than something like romanticsoulmates or platonic soulmates
or what I'm calling soulpartners, or a parent, child or
wise, mentor and student orteacher and student.

(34:44):
There's a little bit moreenergetic equality and
individualism between siblings,best friends.
And the third flavor is what Icall acquaintances or casual
friends, and it's like well,when my bread is buttered on the
side of being your friend, I'llbe your friend, but we're just
not taking it too seriously.
So these animals probably getalong.

(35:04):
Maybe they have moments whenthey play well together and
moments when they're just like,yeah, I take you or leave you,
and it's mutual.
That's the key here.
It's mutual.
So we don't have one who's justabsolutely besotted with the
other and follows them aroundand the other one is just like
yeah, maybe, maybe not.
This is pretty equal.
It's like we say hi to eachother on walks.

(35:26):
We can eat companionably sideby side.
We don't need to be together,but we don't mind being together
.
And this one's pretty easy tospot.
You're like yeah, everybodypretty much gets along.
When I hear a pet parent saythat to me in a pet session or
in one of our practice circlesessions with my students, we

(35:47):
know where we're headed, thatthis is more of a casual friends
, neighbors, acquaintances typeof energy between the two
animals.
Nobody's openly fighting.
There's no need for that.
Everybody wants to get along,but there just isn't this deep
connection.
We've all met people like that,where it's easy enough to chat
with them.
It's pleasant to spend an houror so, and after we leave we

(36:10):
don't really think about it allthat much anymore in either
direction, positive or negative.
So that's really more theflavor of it.
And this can be where theanimals in the family often they
have the strongest soulagreement with us and they're
respectful and recognizing thateverybody in the family is meant
to be there and the desire isto get along, but they're not

(36:33):
really there for one another,they're there for us.
So I would say that's prettyrepresentative of my animal
family right now.
They're all here for me andthey're all powerful teachers in
my animal communicationlearning journey and definitely
huge catalysts for the episodesthat I share with you here

(36:53):
through.
Let's Talk to Animals as well.
Now the seventh type of soulagreement.
So far we've gone through theromantic soul partner, the
platonic soul partner, theparent-child or wise teacher and
student, which I probablyshould unpack that a little bit
more, but given the length ofthis episode maybe we'll save

(37:14):
that for another time.
And then we've gone through thesiblings, the best friends and
the casual friends, or what I'mcalling friendly neighbors.
And then we get to frenemies.
And this is another one ofthose soul agreements that will
frequently prompt requests foranimal communication sessions.
For obvious reasons.
It can be difficult to manage.

(37:34):
So we're not just genial,friendly acquaintances.
So this is the casualacquaintance where sometimes
we're perfectly happy to justhang out and wave to one another
from across the lawn andsometimes we're actively arguing
over the exact perimeter whereyour property ends and my
property begins, and sosometimes you might see these

(37:58):
animals go through a periodwhere everything is pretty
peaceful and sometimes it feelslike a nonstop war zone and
sometimes, depending on thedegree, the intensity of the
soul agreement and also itsteaching applications in the
lives of each animal and in ourlife as their guardian, as with

(38:18):
all soul agreements,interspecies or between same
species we can look at aspectrum so it might be rather
mild where really there are justsome periods of time where
maybe they don't get along verywell or certain issues that seem
to trigger that frenemiesenergy, like I'm perfectly fine
sharing my toys, but I don'tlike to share my food.

(38:39):
Or I'm perfectly fine when yousit on the couch with mom, but
when I want to sit on the couchwith mom you need to get off
that kind of thing.
Or we can see where it's just aflat out war zone, and so those
are the bookends, if you willfrom one extreme to the other
and we can see all differenttypes of intensity levels in

(39:00):
between and the frenemies.
Typically there's a lessonthere, there's something that
these animals are working outbetween themselves and there's
always something that we need tolearn, that we need to learn,
and often when we are able tolearn the lesson, it really

(39:21):
dials down the intensity of thatsoul agreement.
It's heightened teaching momentfor us when we attract animals
into our interspecies family atthe same time who have a
frenemies soul agreement.
It's like they're acting on astage.
There is something for us tolearn.
Typically it's about how wemanage our energy and even our
relationships, and it can be apretty challenging lesson for us

(39:47):
to learn because when we havefrenemies, sometimes there can
be issues where it's a littlebit dangerous, and so it really
is a motivation to us to digdeep and learn the lesson and go
into the behind the scenes ofwhat each animal needs.
It's going to push us outsideof our comfort zone to learn

(40:10):
about new areas of pet care.
New areas of pet care, whetherthat's diet or holistic care or
enrichment, or even our ownenergy and how our different
energetic states can impact ouranimals' abilities to get along.
So this is definitely anintense teaching soul agreement
because there is an element ofif I don't learn this lesson, if

(40:31):
I don't get it right, if wecan't figure this out, somebody
might get hurt, and because ofthat there's a deeper layer to
the frenemies soul agreement.
I'm going to share an examplefrom one of our student practice
circles where we had a petparent come and she had four
dogs all large breed dogs andall three of her original dogs

(40:58):
got along great.
Then she added a fourth dog andthat fourth dog was the only
dog that was fixed in the packand one of the other dogs kept
going after this dog who had hadto be fixed for medical reasons
, and so we had this unfoldingfrenemies soul agreement that

(41:18):
activated when this dog that wasfixed came into the pack and
there was an element ofnecessity to working out the
lesson and I didn't get tofollow that particular family
all the way through all theiterations because that was a
guest that we brought in for mystudents to practice talking
with and it was a verycomplicated case and very

(41:40):
interesting and hopefully theywere able to find a good
resolution.
We're looking at a flow charthere where we start with the
major categories of possibleresolutions and then we have to
go into the nuances and all thedifferent layers and the
different options and I don'tknow where their journey led
them in this particular case.
But that is a great examplewhere you see one animal just,

(42:04):
sometimes they're friendly,sometimes they're not, and it
can escalate and that is just avery intense teaching soul
agreement when that happensbetween two animals in your
family.
Now, the deepest extreme, whichI'm actually separating out into
its own soul agreement, whichthis is not going to sound like
a soul agreement, is what I callthe mismatch.

(42:25):
We've hinted at it as I've gonealong today, but that is where
we see our human minds and ifyou've attended my webinar,
intuitive Development for PetParents, which I run
periodically, you will know thatwe have two brain hemispheres
for a reason, and one of ourhemispheres is intuitive and one
of our hemispheres is notintuitive, and I'm talking about

(42:48):
the not intuitive one for thisparticular example, it's our
left brain mind.
Our left brain mind has noaccess to connectivity or
intuition and that's a separateconversation for a different
episode.
But just for our purposes here,just understand that these
types of mismatch situationswhen they happen in our inner

(43:09):
species family.
Typically it arises from ourleft brain, mind, thinking our
way through some type of goalthat we have or problem we're
trying to resolve.
And the earlier example I usedof well, I have an animal who's
poorly socialized.
They never got the care andattention that they needed when

(43:29):
they were a kitten or a puppy ora chick, and I'll just get
another animal to teach them therules of the road.
Well, sometimes that worksSometimes, and more often than
not it turns into a mismatch.
So this is where we're pullingtogether two animals whose only
sole agreement with one anotheris what I'm calling the mismatch

(43:50):
, which is basically we're notmeant to be together.
We don't mesh, we're oil andvinegar.
We do not get along, and thatis the nature of the soul
agreement.
There's as much of a reason forwhy me, as a homo sapien, will
never meet most of the otherbillions of people that are
alive on this planet right nowthat are available to be met.

(44:12):
And the mismatch is the soulagreement.
That is actually keeping ourenergies apart, making sure our
paths don't cross, because it'sjust not advantageous or as
advantageous to each soul'sgoals for this physical
incarnation to blend ourenergies in any way so that

(44:33):
mismatched soul agreement keepsus apart deliberately.
And sometimes, when our humanleft brain minds get in the mix,
we will think our way and logicour way into adding animals
into our existing interspeciesfamily that have a mismatch soul
agreement.
I volunteer at a cat shelterevery week and I see cats all

(44:55):
the time coming back with tagssaying adopted, returned.
Other animals wouldn't acceptthis animal.
In most cases it's an exampleof a mismatch soul agreement.
I'm not going to ever sayalways.
There can be other issues andother factors at work and I
don't get the full scoop as avolunteer I just get to read the

(45:17):
notes on the profile when a catis returned.
But that can be part of thereason is that those animals
aren't meant to be together andthere's a mismatch soul
agreement in place to make suretheir energies don't blend.
And there's a mismatched soulagreement in place to make sure
their energies don't blend.
And often that's where we willsee the aggression and the
guarding and the growling or thebiting or just the generalized

(45:40):
chaos or the inappropriateelimination, all the signs and
signals saying we're not meantto be together Human.
I know you had good intentions.
Nobody's pointing any fingersat anybody Remembering that.
When I asked the animals why dowe call you pets, they said
because we're your partners,empathic friends and teachers.
So these lessons are part andparcel of our journey together.

(46:02):
So nobody's blaming anybodyelse, but just understand that
this could be why.
And once we start to recognizethat, we're like, oh geez, I'm
sorry, let me take you back soyou can find your person.
Now I've learned something fromyou.
If this happens to you and youfind that you need to relinquish
, then just understand.

(46:23):
You can do your part to helprehome the animal and just offer
the highest vibration energy tomake sure this animal lands
safely in a family where theywere always headed in the first
place.
So we can have these littlestops, these little pit stops
that our animals make in ourlives.
In a way, my rescue cat, momo,was a mismatch.

(46:46):
I desperately wanted to keepMomo.
I have always had birds andI've never had a little furry of
my own.
He would just sit on my chestand purr and I just still miss
him and I watch our videos allthe time.
But he and my cockatiel that'sa mismatch.
That's danger.
Danger.
That's a lifetime ofhypervigilance.
And we tried and it just didn'twork.
Did I learn something?

(47:07):
Did I benefit tremendously?
And a huge part of that was inthe humility that I had to
accept of I can't human my waythrough this and make this work.
I can't use my human strengthand authority to force something
that feels so unnatural.

(47:28):
I'm not saying that it hasn'thappened.
It had been totally natural inother families.
I have watched many videos ofparrots and cats who seem to get
along just fine, but it justdidn't happen in our case and
there was nothing that I coulddo to use my human might and
authority to create harmonywhere there wasn't any.
So that's a very personalexample of my experience with a

(47:52):
mismatched soul agreement.
There were other soul agreements, as I mentioned when we started
this episode.
That wasn't the only soulagreement at play.
I had a very strong, wiseteacher-student soul agreement
with Momo and temporarily aparent-child soul agreement,
since I found him as a tiny,malnourished kitten who hadn't
had food and water in severaldays in our garage.

(48:15):
So there were many differentflavors of soul agreement that
were showing themselves, butprimarily it was a mismatch.
And now Momo is in a delightfulsituation.
He was adopted with anotherkitten in a loving lifetime home
, and so my part was just toguide him along his way.
So if you're facing one of thosesituations, we can always have

(48:37):
a session and talk with youranimals and find out what is
needed.
But just understand, there'snever a call to judge yourself
or condemn yourself.
Just allow yourself to learn,because that's really the goal
of a mismatch, and the truenorth in this situation is
always in the direction ofsafety for all.
So just if you need a littlebit of a compass to help guide

(49:02):
your path, just know that that'salways going to be your true
north, and if you want toschedule a session, we can
definitely talk through it.
But that will give yousomething to work with
immediately, starting right now.
Now, I promised you when Istarted this episode that I was
going to talk to you about oneadditional type of soul
agreement those of you who arelistening and you only have one

(49:23):
animal in your interspeciesfamily.
So maybe you have severalhumans and one cat or one dog or
one bird or one turtle or onehorse or one goat or one chicken
or whomever from the non-humananimal world has joined your
family and that might justrepresent your interspecies
family right now, or maybe it'salways been like that for you.

(49:45):
For instance, for me, for many,many, many, many many years,
starting when I was age eight, Ihad one bird.
Sometimes I would bring turtlesinto the family for a while and
then usually we would rescuethem from the bayou.
They would be little and oftenwe'd find them malnourished or
dehydrated and we'd refresh themand foster them a little bit

(50:06):
and then we would release them.
But for the most part I had onebird at a time, and so if that
describes you, either for largeportions of your life with your
pet or for your whole life withyour pet, then there is another
type of soul agreement and it'sa form of the mismatch, and
typically it's a very intensivetype of soul agreement that you

(50:28):
share with your animal and it'sa mutual soul agreement where
the primary partnership isbetween you and that animal.
So it's a very extreme form ofthe mismatch soul agreement
that's basically just keepingall of the other animal energies
out of the mix and I call thisthe solo soul agreement, so the

(50:50):
animal in your life.
We can just take a look at Perky, my parakeet when I was eight,
who was with me for 11 amazingyears.
He had the solo soul agreementwith all the other animals in
the world.
Every so often, like one time,we had a little blue parakeet
who landed on the lawn.
He was with us for 24 hoursbefore he passed.

(51:10):
Here and there I would adoptother parakeets and not to go
into that, but for most of ourtime together Perky and I were
together.
We had a very strong twin flamesoulmates, soul agreements.
You can go back to the prequelepisode and listen to learn more
about that.
And he had a solo soulagreement with all the other

(51:30):
animals.
Occasionally we'd have aparakeet or we'd have a baby
turtle and that was more like hehad a very much just a casual
acquaintances, casual friends,soul agreement with them and
they would pass on through.
So it was really more like afostering type of a situation or
a rehabilitation type ofsituation.

(51:52):
And then it would be back to meand Perky again.
So he had a solo soul agreementwith all of the other animals
in the world.
He was with me, I was with himand we really didn't have any
other relationships.
Either one of us tells you howmuch I got out as a kid and a
young adult, but we were veryintensively soulmates, twin
flame soulmates together.

(52:13):
So if that describes.
You just understand there's areason for that, there's a soul,
there's a soul agreement forthat and it's as normal and
natural and beneficial as all ofthe other types of soul
agreements.
And so, hopefully, listeningthrough this episode although I
realize at times it can get alittle bit complicated and just
a little bit convoluted so ifthat feels like the case for you

(52:37):
, just maybe give it anotherlisten.
Just wait a week or so and giveit another listen, maybe even
another listen, and it's gonnastart to sink in.
You're gonna start to makethose new neural connections and
you're gonna start to see allof the interplay of
relationships within your lifewith your animals and within the
lives of your animals with oneanother.
You're going to start to seethem open up and reveal their

(52:59):
secrets to you.
You're going to start seeingthe different types or flavors
of relationships that are goingon between your animals past,
present and future.
And it's going to start to feelat least if my own experience
is any indication it's going tostart to feel like you're living
in a family where there's somuch more equality of energy

(53:20):
exchange versus I'm coming in,I'm the human in the mix and
then the buck stops with me andit's top-down authority, and for
those of us who are animalempaths, and especially if you
listen to each new episode andyou've been a part of this
community for a while, chancesare very good that you are an
animal empath and you have avery strong desire for energetic

(53:42):
equality as best as it can befacilitated within your inner
species family.
You want your pets, yourpartners, empathic friends and
teachers to feel like equals, asbest as it can be negotiated
for everyone's safety andcomfort and health, and you want
them to feel respected, seen,heard, known to it and respected

(54:07):
as individuals within their ownright.
And it's not about the buckstops with me, even though
sometimes that's necessary.
Just understand your animalshave agreed to that or they
wouldn't be in your family.
They understand there arecertain constraints involved
with living in your human worldand that's the miracle of the
pet, the partner, empathicfriend and teachers.

(54:27):
They've given up so much to bewith us, to comfort us, to heal
us, to teach us and guide us inour lives.
It's a very specific soulcontract, it's very profound in
all its different flavors andonly a small number, just a
fraction of all of the animalsalive on this earth right now

(54:48):
have any kind of soul contract.
Just keep company directly andfor any kind of period of time
with us, with humans.
So that's pretty amazing in itsown right.
But just understand that as youcontinue to revisit this, just
lend a curious eye to theinterplay of energy, not just
between you and each animal inyour family or you and the

(55:09):
animal in your family, butbetween your animals and each
other, between them and theirinner species, family members,
and you will start to see somany nuances.
And you can also, if you livein a family with multiple humans
and multiple non-human animals.
Going back and revisiting theprequel episode talking about

(55:30):
the different types of soulagreements we can share with our
pets, with each pet in ourfamily, you can start to pick up
the interplay and the differentsoul agreements happening
between each human member ofyour family and each animal in
your family.
That's got enough complexity tokeep your left brain mind busy
for a long time to come.

(55:50):
And as for the rest of you,thank you so much for tuning in
to today's episode.
I hope this has beenenlightening for you, hopefully
maybe instructive, maybeencouraging and inspiring for
you, and we'll be able to giveyou something new to explore

(56:11):
with the animals in your familywhom you so love, a way to get
to know them better, to take adeeper step inside their world
as they experience it, and beginto perceive how they relate to
one another and how they workthings out between each other,
even while keeping company withyou and serving as your pet,

(56:36):
your partner, empathic friendand teacher to start noticing
how they are teaching andlearning from one another as
well.
So I welcome your comments andyour insights.
If you have questions aboutthis episode, please do let me
know and maybe I can plan afuture follow-up episode around
those questions.
I always appreciate yourreviews and definitely,

(56:59):
definitely.
You're watching eyes over onYouTube If you're watching the
video version and you yourlistening ears here on the
podcast.
So thank you again for tuningin and I send you all my love.
Okay, bye for now.
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