November 4, 2024 • 40 mins
Hey guys!
Britt and Keeshia have spent the entire weekend together and they're the friends that ask you if you can come to Africa tomorrow.
Laura shared a story about some of the early days of Marlie's life that aren't quite her best moments! Laura would love to know how many times your kid accidentally rolled off the bed?
We unpack the goss from the Wicked premiere!
We were interested in how they would approach the PR of the film given the reputational damage that Ariana Grande and Ethan Slater suffered after having a rumoured 'affair.'
We wondered whether they would take a 'Don't Worry Darling" approach (Harry Styles and Olivia Wilde) where they kept space from each other in public, or if they would lean in to their romance!
There was one line in the movie that we are shocked they kept in!
Plus, what would bring you to 'loyalty test' your partner?
We speak about the 'how' and the 'why' you may get to a place where you consider conducting a loyalty test. Is the entrapment just as bad as the potential cheating?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This episode was recorded on cameragle Land.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hey guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I'm Brittany and I'm Laura. Welcome back, everybody to a
Tuesday episode.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Britt you and Keisha hung out for the entire weekend
we did.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
It wasn't planned. Kesha just came over and didn't.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Leave for like three days.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I missed the days of catching up with a girlfriend
and then just staying with them for the whole weekend.
One plan rolling into another plant you guys message and
you were like, we're gonna go to Blackwood and get
breakfast and I was like, I'm coming.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Just let me figure out how to ditch my.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Children, and you were like, hang on, that's not here.
I can't ditch them.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
And I got a call and Keisha was like, actually,
there's no tables. We're just gonna get takeaway and walk
and I was like, fuck, I can't do this.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Three year old ain't.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Gonna walk to walk anywhere. My knees hurt, so my
needs her too.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
No, But it's the it's the idea of having fluid plans,
like we had zero plans that rolled into a weekend
of plans and that's because we had no responsibilities and
like no one else I had to keep a light.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Well Delilah, but she can just kind of go with
it and follows actually makes me realize.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I'm so excited. So over the Christmas period, I'm going
to see Ben in Romania, but Sherry and Jay and
my new little niece, like my sister's new daughter, Maya,
is going to come to Romania. So they're going to
stay with us for a week in Ben's two bedroom flat.
I'm really really excited to like spend that time with him.
(01:39):
And I said to Ben, this would be really great
insight because Ben Ben's never been around a kid, right,
but he thinks he has, which is the funniest part. Well,
this is how the conversation went. Ready, come along the
ride with me? Do you think we should have kids?
Like do you want kids? And he's like, yeah, I
think I want kids. I think i'd be a great dad.
And I was like, have you been around kids much?
And he's like, yeah, i'veen around heaps kids. And I'm like,
what do you mean by being around them?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Because like I've been to a shoppings before. There was
a woman that walked past the strollers. I saw them.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
They sit in the stands at the football field us
to watch rug right.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
No, he'd be like, I have heaps of friends with kids,
and I was like, yeah, but what's the most length
of time. And he'd be like, oh, I've been to
lunch with them before and held them and stuff. And
I'm like, fucking volcano. You have not been around a
kid like that is not a clear indication if you
want a child or not.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, But I also.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Argue that, like, and I kind of emphathize with what
Ben's saying, because I don't think that being around other
people's children is what necessarily makes you want to or
not want to have kids, because maybe for some people
it does. Some people really have that maternal pool, and
every time that they're around their friend's children, they had
this real, like you know, overwhelming feeling of though, Okay,
I really want to have my own children. But like,
(02:40):
I never had that, and I think there's a lot
of people that never have that. Obviously, I love my
friend's children. Are kids my friend's children, if that sounded weird.
I love my sister's kids, like you know, the other
kids in my life that are not my own. I
love them, but I never ever had the maternal pool
by being around them ever.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, but it's not I don't want him to be
around the kid to see if the maternal pools there.
That's not what I want. I just don't think he
understands the level of like what you have to do
twenty four to seven to like. I think he just
thinks you can put it down for a while and
like go about your day and then come back and
get no.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Kind of can when they're really little, just put him
in a prayer and put him in the corner.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
But if you think anyone ever knows though, do you
know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Like, do you think do you think you had a
good idea of what it was going to be like
Laura before you had them?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Guys, I still think about this, right, So, I mean,
it's so many, so many years have passed now and
Mally's fine, so no one's gonna come for me. But
I still remember when Mali was she was like four
and a half months old, and I would take her
to work with me every day.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
So she came with me back in the post office
and try to turn to send off.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I just shove her back inside me it's like if
I am done.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Matt's like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
You're like, can you not gy right about? Child?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
So I was taking Mally to work with me every
day into Tony Maine, into the office and Life hun
Cut and Life on Cart.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
She came with me everywhere.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Downstairs, what happens when you're in you want and you
don't get maternally. So downstairs is the shop at Tony May.
I'm guessing most people have not been in there, and
upstairs at the office. So she was asleep, She's in
the pram and I left her in the kitchen, which
is at the back of the shop, and there's kind
of like saloon like cowboy doors that kind of swing open,
so you can see below the doors right if you're
(04:19):
standing inside the shop. So I'm upstairs, I'm doing work
and I hear everyone starts screaming, and then a baby
starts screaming, and I was like, what the fuck is
going on?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
And then I hear this woman go, oh my.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
God, there's a baby on the floor.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
And Marley had I mean, that's how we discovered she
was rolling. She had rolled out of the backs in there,
fallen out of the.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Buckeboo and landed just like starfish on the ground as
a four month old.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Baby in five years told me yeah, because I was
horrified into the workplace. I ran downstairs and no one
had even picked her up. She was just in the
kitchen on.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
The ground crying. I picked her and I was like,
they're there. I looked like such an incompetent mother. Well,
first of all, who has a saloon or no? Like
saloon doors?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Like not a saloon? You know when you walk in,
it's like you're berely supposed to be here.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I love that. That's the part that you hung onto
from that story.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Well, the other thing didn't surprise me. Even a baby
alone in the kitchen that roll about didn't surprise me.
It was having a saloon that got me.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I'd be interested to know, like a poll of how
many moms out there? Like no, like how many times
did your kid roll off the bed by accident? Like
did it happen once? It was like did it never
happen to you? Are you a better parent than me?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I think it happens all the time. One of my
favorite not.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Endorsing it, this is not my vibe for the wig let.
Your kid roll off the bed.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
It's character building. One of my favorite things to watch online.
And it's not the videos where the kids get hurt.
Have you seen those videos where it's just a montage
of parents that have saved their kid at the last
minute and not saved them from like a car or something,
but like a kid's about to roll off the lounge
and the dad reached and has it by one leg
in air. I love that stuff, but I'm like, wow,
how quickly it can happen.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
The near misses? Yeah, yeah, No one likes the actual kids.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
It's just the near miss Okay, look, not to make
this two kid focus for the start of this, but
something that's very big in our life at the moment,
which I wanted to share with you guys.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
So Marley's starting school next year.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Wild I know, five years considering that the day that
we started this podcast, I think I was like seven
months pregnant at the time, and then we got our
first season out when she was just born, and now
she's starting school. So I kind of like benchmark a
lot of our milestones off the fact that, like Marley's.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
At the age that she's at.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah, and so that means that so many of you guys,
your listeners. I mean, we know you come along the
journey with us in like in our love lives and
everything happens, but like so much you've been there, like
our listeners have been there since she was born.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
So she's starting school and we had orientation last week
for her, and this wasn't orientation for her, so like
they have like a kid's orientation next week she starts that,
but this was orientation for parents. So all the parents
go and they sit in the school hall and like
we got told about the canteen about after school care,
and there was a little kindergartener who got up and
she did a speech around how much she loves going
(07:11):
to school and all the things that she learned at school,
and she was reading it amazing. Then they had like
the year six school captains who did their little speech
as well, and it really gave me so much nostalgia
for when I was at school, Like do you remember
being in year six or being in kindergarten and getting
a buddy and getting paired with like another kid to show.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You around the school like the older kid. Yes, So
when I was.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
In year six, I didn't get a buddy because I
wasn't well enough behaved.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I was too naughty. I had two and I didn't
get it. Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
The craziest thing though, when I was in year six,
I my buddy who was in kindergarten, one of the two.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I still follow her on Instagram. She's awesome. I love her.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
She has two children, and I'm like, you know when you.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Just yeah that moment where were like, oh, I thought
I was still a child, but you're You're like, I
was meant to look after you when you were in
kindergarten and now you have two children.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Of you You're like, how do you have two children?
And I'm still a teenager? That's right, I'm in my thirties.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
That's child pregnancy.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I was school captain, so I was probably too busy
to have a body like I always you are school captain.
I was running the school, so it was pretty big.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I didn't see that coming.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I was high school. In primary school, I was on
over cheek. Yeah, it's hard to see now, I get that,
because no, I can't get my shit together.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
My mum had to beg our school principal not to
expel me because I punched in the face.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Now wonder you had, no buddy. I was in year four.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
She told a boy named that I wanted to have
sex with him, and I was in year four, and
then I found out what that meant. So I punched
her in the face in front of the asample.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
How does she even know that? In you four, I'm concerned,
I punched a boy in the face, and I'll never
forget it. I can picture exactly where we were outside
of the canteen, probably in y four as well. I
picture exactly what happened. I can remember what he said,
and he said this really mean thing about my brother,
and I said, say it again and I'll punch you
in the face. And he just looked at me and
(08:59):
said it again, and I just went boom and punched
him in the face. And I was like, it was
like one of those things where I was like, only
I can say shit about them, you know those things.
I'm like, I can I probably agree with you, but
you can't say it. I can say it. And I've
gotten so much trouble and you.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Were still the school captain and I got almost expelled. Yeah,
for these reasons, I would like to.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Say that on this podcast, we don't endorse children rolling
on the floor when they're babies, or punching people in
the face.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
No, no, violence is never the answer.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
Kids.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Okay, well I've got some goss for you. Last night
was the world premiere of Wicked. World premiere. We were
the first people in the entire world to see the
new Wicked movie with Ariana Grande, Ethan Slater. Jonathan Bailey.
I don't know why Australia gets picked to be the
world leader.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I have a theory and we're going about this until
this morning, because last night I was really like, Wow,
of all the places like Australia, I think it's because
the movie Wicked and the Wizard of Oz stories are
all based in Oz, so they've brought the premiere to Oz.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
The Gladiators world premiere last week was in Oz two.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
I don't know about the last I have no theories
for Gladiator, but my current theory is that they must
have launched it in Australia because of the Oz connection.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
We'll go with us.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
This is the movie that Ariana Grande and Ethan Slater
had an affair on, So you guys might remember we
were speaking about this. We talked about this affair that
went down and the backlash, the reputational damage that happened
off the back of it.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
For those of you who.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Don't remember Ethan Slater, he was married to Lily J
and they had a three month old baby when the
rumors of an affair with Arina Grande came out, and
I would say that it's not uncommon for affairs to
happen on set, but it is uncommon for it to
happen when you have a baby at home. And the
backlash to it was so quick and so severe. People
were calling Ariana Grande a home wrecker, and Lily J
(10:52):
came out. She did a very damning article with Page
six an interview at the time, and she called Ariana
Grande not a girl girl. They've very rarely been seen
together as a couple, and now they're on their promotional
tour for the movie that was responsible for them both
leaving their respective partners.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And you should have seen the tens of thousands of
people of fans that came out to see the exact
same thing. Like I shouldn't say the exact same thing.
They're probably just fans of them and wanted to see them.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
So we got there.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
We had to get our uber driver to drop us
off like four blocks up the road. There were thousands
and thousands of people lining the street. They didn't have
passes to go and see the movie. Because there were
also some tickets given out to people who were really
big fans of Wicked and stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
There were a lot of people going to see the movie.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
As well, but there were thousands of people lining the
streets just waiting to get that. It must have only
been fifteen seconds of when they get out of their
security cars and walk the yellow brick road into the theater.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I've never seen things like It was like you were
a salmon all pushed together and you could barely walk,
Like it was like you were at a concert, like
going a vivid worse. But it was so fascinating because
they were Ethan and Ariana were together, like they were
holding hands. It was really interesting to see after like
two years. And this is the only thing that makes
what they did remotely better is that you're like, Okay,
(12:09):
if you end up together and get married and you
ended up being soulmates, it almost becomes more palatable, like
more acceptable. If they just had this affair and then
broke up like three months later and they ruined all
their lives, then you want to hate on them forever.
But it was interesting to see how people. I think
a lot of people just forget that it happened. I mean,
(12:30):
we don't because we're in the media and we talk
about it, but I think a lot of people and
that went to show with all the amount of fans
that came to screaming and crying, I think a lot
of people forget that it even happens.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
What I thought was interesting was that how it worked
is that when we walked into the State Theater, there
are different levels to the theater, and we were on the
lower level, and so everyone eventually takes their seats, and
then the cast of the movie were introduced onto the
stage and they did a little bit of a Q
and A with some of the cast members, including this
from Ariana Grande.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Give people the chance because there's so many to everything.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
There's so much humanness and context that gets erased these days, and.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I feel like I hope it inspires people to leave
with the fee and with more above and really there'll
be someone with Elfa who some day.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
But as they were standing on stage, and the thing
that I was really interested by was do you remember
when Don't Worry Darling was going through all of their controversy,
that was the Hurry Styles and Olivia Wilde controversy, And
whenever they were doing the PR circuit anywhere they were,
they almost somewhat deliberately kept.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Them separate, like quite far away from each other.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
And I was curious about how they were going to
approach all of the PR that they were doing for Wicked.
So on the stage, Ethan was quite far to the
left and Ariana was almost as far as you could
be to the right.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
There were like maybe four people in.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Between the two of them on the stage, and I
did find that quite interesting.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
But then later before the film came on.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
The actors, because it was the world premiere, it was
the first time that they were probably seeing it with
a crowd, if not seeing it in total, they actually
went to the middle level of the theater and Arianna
and Ethan were holding hands as they were walking down
to the seats, and then they sat down together.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
And watched the whole film together as a couple.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I think it's very different, though, and I think it's
the proximity of the controversy because when you think about
someone like Harry Styles and a live wild.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
They were in the midst of the storm.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
They were literally in the eye of the storm of
the controversy around their relationship, and that came out during
the promotional tour. This the breakdown of their relationships, Arianna's
breakdown of her marriage and Ethan's breakdown of his marriage.
That all happened almost a year and a half ago
now or two years ago, and so.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I think having that distance between is what has allowed
them to kind of move into the premiere and everything
and be a united front as a couple without having
the level of hatred.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
But one thing, and I'm going to do a spoiler
here for people. I'm going to do a spoiler for
one line in the movie. So if you don't want
to listen, fast forward now a minute. The movie was brilliant,
Like I genuinely loved it. I got goosebumps, I was
in it. I was it's a musical.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
What about for people who hate musicals, you still would
love it.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I think you would enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
It's the most amazing cinematography I have ever seen any film.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
It's brilliant.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
It was exceptional.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
So keep in mind that Arianna and Ethan are upstairs
like they're in the crowd watching right. Everyone is quiet,
and Ethan's character is pioneing over Ariana in the movie,
and this one point she asks him to do something
for her. She's like, can you go do this for me?
And he's like yes, and she's like, oh, come on,
oh my god, that's so amazing. And he looks at
her and everything silent, and he goes, there is nothing
(15:41):
I wouldn't do to be with you. And it was
such a pointed statement, considering that he left his style
family to be with her. And the audience and they're
up there and the audience some people like that. They gasped,
some people laughed, some people it was like loud, like
collectively because people were like, people were so shocked that
they made a choice, a directorial choice to keep that
(16:05):
line in there.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I turned to Britain.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
I was like, I cannot believe, after all of the
shit that they had to go through filming this movie
and all of the bad pr that they had to navigate,
they left that in.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
But maybe that was a strategy. Maybe that's part of
that's horrible. It's interesting because I think that your take
on this is that they haven't or that they've overcome
the reputational damage, where I would say from the outset
and the way that media still talks about them that
they haven't, and the fact that they've been able to
so that they've kept themselves private for the past year
was absolutely intentional. The amount of hate that the two
(16:37):
of them received, all of the articles that came out,
and the Page six article in particular, like, you can't
outrun that, and so I think the only way to
try and distance yourself from it is literally distance yourself
from it with the space and the time that they have.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
That's why I was so shocked that at the start
that they kept a line in, because if they had
completely overcome it, then the line wouldn't matter so much.
But because they're still in the thick of it, I
think I feel like all the line was doing was
doubling down on it. But I also Keisha and I
had this discussion. Keisha was like, I cannot believe they
left that in, and I said, I can.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I didn't think it was that needed.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
I don't think the movie would have been any different
if they had to remove that line, and so they
have made a pretty active decision to leave it in there.
Maybe it's because of the press that it will get
because people are going to talk. I mean, I was
particularly shocked about it. As we walked out, I was.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Like, how about them leaving that in? That's pretty crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
I do wonder whether the affair will have a positive
or negative impact on the box office, Like on the
on people watching it A people are going to watch
it because they're going to want to see them falling
in love and see what it was about their chemistry
or their relationship that made him walk away from his
like sweetheart. Or is it going to be a situation
where people because cheating is something that we feel so
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morally like that it's so strong, like people's perceptions and
feelings around cheating, Like there's nothing that kind of parallels
except for like actual heinous crimes, So like, is that
going to have an impact where people go out of
my own moral judgment. I'm not going to go and
see this because I can't support something that was born
out of a cheating scandal.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
No, people's morals aren't high enough in this stuff. For years,
we've been told that they fell in love on set, right,
people want to see what it was. I was shocked
at how little interactions they had in the movie. He's
not a key character. It's very similar to Sidney Sweeney
and Glenn Powell. So you know the recent movie that
came out anyone but you, it's been panned as like
the most terrible movies.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
I loved it.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I loved it.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
If you read any we love a rom com. But
if my point is, if you read any review, it's
like terrible script, terrible acting, terrible plot. Like people, people
didn't like it. But for the whole pr tour, the
question on everyone's lips is was are they together? Did
his girlfriend leave because something happened? Has she left her fiance?
Because they were playing it up. People wanted to then
(18:49):
go and see the movie more because they thought that
maybe in real life it had translated. They came out
after and were like, yeah, like you lean into it,
you give the people what they want.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
But also it makes you a question like is it
a storyline? Is it just something that's prable. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
I mean, it's a very easy way of covering up
something that might have happened. But on that I fucking
loved that movie. And I think that anyone who said
it was shit just doesn't lack a cheesy romcom.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
I do think that the key difference between those and
even with the Olivia Wilde Harry styles kind of dilemma
as well, I do think that the key difference is
what you spoke about at the very start, laws and
that's the fact that Ethan's ex wife now or wife
at the time, had a three month old baby. And
so we can feel very different about cheating when it's
just like adults involved and you know their feelings are
(19:34):
gonna get hurt. But I think it's a really really
different thing for us to grasp when there's children involved,
especially when they're so young, and for anyone who may
have been through that process themselves of having a baby
and imagining what their life was like with a three
month old and having to watch.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
You, one of the most famous women in the world,
be with your partner.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Yeah, I was particularly interested to see their interactions last night,
and I left more confused.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
The last thing to come out of this on a
high note is that I got to see my hall
pass on one of there's a few speaking of affairs,
one of my hall passes and my crush in real life.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Because that's probably the safest because he's gay. Yeah, he's gay.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Can a wole past still be a hall pass if
he doesn't ever want to touch me?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Absolutely? It's a fantasy.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Britain.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Your hall pass could be fucking big bird for all
anyone in mine. It's like, it's that's sick, Laura.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Bast reality gets weird?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Could it be? What was that dinosaur? The purple one?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Also see Barney Barney beast Reality Barney.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Why do you want to think about me having sex
with Barney?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I reckon? If Barney was real, Barney would be hot.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
No.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
So Jonathan Bailey, I think I think I'm not alone
in this. Jonathan Bailey is from Bridgeton. He is a beautiful,
beautiful man. I think I fell in love with his
character on Bridgeton. I don't know, but it was really
nice to see him. But I don't know if Yeah,
I don't know if I should change my hall pass
considering that he only dates man.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I think it is safer to have a hall pass
that you're never going to have the opportunity to have
sex with Like that's because like it becomes a problem
if it's someone who could potentially be attainable and might
also want to return serve yeah, capend's happy.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
Yeah depends like fuck, go for it back, try your luck.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Well, speaking of cheating, and I know that this has
kind of become a common theme of this episode, but
there's something that is happening on TikTok at the moment,
and it is a real trend that has taken over
the algorithm, and that is something that is called loyalty testing. Now,
if you haven't heard of loyalty testing, it's had over
one hundred and twenty five million tags on TikTok. It's
also very prevalent on Instagram as well, and it may
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be coming to your algorithm soon. But the way that
it works is basically, there are profiles and users on
both platforms who you can pay money to to loyalty
test your partner. So if you are unsure as to
whether they would be faithful if they were put in
the position where a hot woman or a hot man
was flirting with them, you can now pay someone to
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do that and to be that person and to get
the cold, hard proof for you.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Guess.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
I had a few questions about this because the more
all and ethical issues with this are very very obvious,
but I think it's interesting to unpack the how and
the why does someone get to a place where they
feel as though they need to loyalty test their relationship
and also what's the impact of doing so when you
or if you find out that somebody has or could
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be unfaithful to you, Because is it as impactful and
is it still infidelity if you have technically entrapped your
partner into the situation that they're in.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Have a listen to this.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
I used to do loyalty tests. Girls would have me
d youm their boyfriends and flirt with them to see
if they would flirt back or stay loyal. I would
side by pretending like I was moving to whatever city
he lived in and then asking him to be my
tour guide. It'll be shocked how many guys felt for this,
Like as if I wanted Jake from Cappasi to show
me around with Denver, like I have maths, bib, I'm good.
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Then the girl would like basically just tell me everything
to say, and then I would eventually ask if you
had a girlfriend, and if you lied, then I gave
her the screenshots and she could just like break up
with them.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I had to stop.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Some of them got depressing and also I realized a
lot of guys out there are idiots.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Like the conversations I have with these guys, I don't
know how you guys do it.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
I don't know how you guys dat These guys like
you guys are in the trenches here.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I just think it's wild that this is people's jobs,
that people are making money from testing other people's relationship.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
If you can make money from selling your feet online,
I am not surprised that you can make money from
trying to tempt someone's partner to cheat with you.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
The thing is a lot of people out there can
see the enticing effect that selling your feet for money
would make. Right, it's they're attached to the bottom of you.
You don't have to put your face in it, and
you can make banks.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
A lot of people have foot fetishes, but a lot
of people cheat as well.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
It doesn't surprise me how many people cheat. It surprises
me how many people would want to go to the
level of trying to find out for a multitude of reasons,
if their partner's cheating.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
So my take on this though, is, like like I said,
it's very obvious to everybody here that it is not
healthy to loyalty test your partner. But I would also
say that to get to that point where you feel
though you need to loyalty test your partner, it's probably
been a long road of decaying your trust, of feeling
as though you can't believe your surroundings, like you have
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the intuition that something's going on, but they're telling you
that you're crazy. So I would say that, like, and
I think for anyone who's been in a really toxic
relation to shit where they've been cheated on, you can
kind of remove yourself from it a little bit and
understand how someone might get to the point where they
feel as though this is their only option to figure
out whether or not their partner is truthful or not.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
No, I and I do understand that, I do understand
why some people are like I just need to know.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
I need to know.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
It's easy for us to sit back and say, if
you feel like you don't trust your partner nothing, you
shouldn't be in the relationship. We've all done it, We've
all gone back to cheaters. We know what it's like
to be sucked into that toxic vortex. Some people need
that one little bit of evidence they're nail in the
coffin to be like, yes, this is what I needed
to actually walk away, like to actively see you engage
with someone else, pretend I don't exist. That's what I want.
(24:59):
But I think it goes to a deeper level too.
It's easy for our brain to go first to that
being the reason why people do loyalty tests, but I
think there's another aspect, which is people feeling insecure in themselves.
And I'm not putting this blame on anyone, but there
are a lot of people that have trouble trusting in
a relationship due to nothing that their partner is doing,
but simply due to the past that they've experienced. So
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maybe they've been cheated on horrifically multiple times, maybe they
have huge trust issues that they have taken into their
new relationship, and maybe it's just like a you know,
well this has happened to me this many times. I'm
just going to make sure that he's a good one.
So if they pass the loyalty test, which the testers
have said loads of people pass.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Like yeah, a lot of people's like no, sorry, I've
got to go at front or block or whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Exactly, So then the loyalty tester will screenshot that send
it to them and be like, you know, he passed,
they passed, she passed. What happens then if you do pass,
but your partner finds out that you loyalty tested them,
that is another level of betrayal on them, because then
they're going to say, well, you don't trust me, so
they've lost trusting you. It's like trust is a two
way street course.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
I mean, could you imagine being in a relationship where
you found out that your partner paid money to have
some random person on the internet test your loyalty tests
whether or not you would be tempted. I think for
this though, the real issue is that could be a
reverse you know card, like reverse you know I'm leaving
you you don't trust me enough that you've tested me?
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Yeah, I was just trying to think of like how
Matt would respond to that, and it would not be
good for me. This is an itch that will never
be scratched because I think if you were in a
relationship where you're suspicious and you have that intuition that
something is wrong or you feel as though your partner
may be unfaithful, if presented with the opportunity, even if
you get back a response that they didn't do it,
or that they passed that sort of test. I don't
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think that it will satisfy the feeling of uncertainty. I
don't think that it will instantly absolve. And the reason
why I say that is because it's kind of like
if you've ever found yourself in a situation where you're
looking in your partner's phone. And I know that a
lot of people will relate to this, if you've ever
been in a relationship where you found yourself checking their
phone because you think they're being unfaithful. Even if you
don't find something one time, you'll probably look again, because
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just because you didn't find something one time doesn't mean
that instantly that that feeling, that intuition that like, holy shit,
I can't trust my reality is actually satisfied by not
uncovering anything. And I just think that this is the
scratch that can't be itched, but that can't be scratched,
the itch that can't be scratched, you can't scratch that.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Actually think that there's certain relationships I've been in one
particular that was just very very bad, and I was
bad in it as well, And I remember being at
a point where like I never paid anyone to do
a loyalty test, but had it have been around my
initial reaction now is like, if you would ever actually
want to do that, you've got so many problems in
your relationship that you should just break up anyway in
(27:46):
the stage of my relationship, and I actually think I
would have been in a position where I would have
rather found out that he was cheating than found out nothing.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
I was so suspicious of everything that was going on.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
I'd been gaslit so badly that I, un you only
was questioning every aspect of my reality. And I think
just having the evidence of something would have made me
feel as though.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I wasn't losing my mind, you know.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Yeah, that would have been satisfaction in that, even though
it was hurtful information.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
It makes me sad that one hundred and twenty five
million people have created content off the back of this
because that's where they've found themselves in their relationships.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I don't think one hundred and twenty five million people
are doing it for that reason. We also live in
a society where we want to make content the people
that want to watch this shit. I think the fact
that this content is available also pushes people to make
the content. I think people would be getting this idea
to do this when this idea never would have even
popped into their head. They're like, I'm like to do
a loyalty test. I think we are such an impressionable
generation that there'd be people doing it that wouldn't normally
(28:41):
do it as well.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Imagine if you did this and then the outcome was
that your partner failed the loyalty test, Like, what do
you then do with that information?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Go viral? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Exactly, but I need the creative fund so you can
financially everything for cliqus.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
It's also not reliable evidence of fidelity or infidelity. Like
having one person slide into DM and hit you up,
there's a high chance that they're not interested in the
person anyway, They're not attracted to the person. Maybe they're
too busy with all their other partners they're cheating on
you with to add another one to the mix. Like,
I don't think it's the evidence that people want.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Is it still considered infidelity if nothing was ever going
to amount from it, If it is literally a trap
that has been coerced and conditioned to try and get
the outcome of cheating, is it still as bad as
if they had gone out and just done it spontaneously.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Absolutely, I don't think there's a difference between spontaneous cheating
or what did you just call it? Intentional cheating? No,
like intentional spontaneous cheating, right, there's two types, there's multiple types.
I don't think there's a difference. If they commit to
the cheating, it doesn't matter if they went to find it,
or if they responded to a stimulus that was presented
to the mount of the blue. At the end of
the day, you still cheat it.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
I kind of say this similar to you know when
we get a lot of messages from people for usk
gun Cut, and it's essentially them saying, I've gone through
my partner's phone and I've found this thing, and I
don't know how to bring it up with them because
I feel really bad about the thing that I did.
If we're comparing entrapment or like trying to find out
whether your partner's cheating with they were cheating and they
(30:12):
got caught. To me, yes, they're both.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Sins, but one's a lot bigger than the other.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Like trying to find out the entrapment part to me
doesn't seem as bad of a break of the relationship.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
I feel like that about checking someone's phone, but I
don't feel like that about paying someone to intentionally flirt
with your partner. So like, and that's the problem, I guess,
like we've always just said, Okay, well, what's the worst
of two evils? Is it the fact that you went
through their phone? Or is it the fact that you
found something. It's the fact that you found something, But
in this instance, I actually think it's the action of
(30:44):
paying someone to be that person to try and like
tempt the partner is also equally as bad.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah, but then it depends on the outcome, because if
they do say, yeah, let's fuck, I've got this hotel,
then you're gonna be like, yes, queen, that is you
knew deep down, that's why you get this out, do
you know what I mean? Like, it depends no, but
that's what I mean. It depends on the outcomist. Whether
you say that something was worth something, that's anything in life.
This is not going to come as a surprise people, guys.
(31:12):
It goes back to communicate. And I don't mean go
and say, hey, are you cheating on me? Because they're
not gonna say yes. No one is ever going to
be like, you got me, I'm so glad you asked.
That's never gonna happen. But communicate that you feel insecure
in a relationship, and why gauge their response. We say
this all the time. The way if you go to
your partner and you present the way you're feeling and
(31:33):
the why their reaction is so tell tale to what
your relationship is, the respect that they have for the
relationship and how they feel about you, Because if they
throw that back in your face, if they don't listen,
if nothing changes, it's going to tell you a whole
lot more. Anyway.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
I also just think it depends on how much of
a master manipulator you are in a relationship with. But
I do think a lot of people find themselves in
relationships where that uncertainty comes because the person that they're
in that relationship with is a narcissist or is like
so deeply toxic and they are so able to lie
that that means they questioned their entire reality around them.
And I think in those situations it is almost impossible
(32:11):
to get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
It's almost impossible to figure out fact from fiction.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
We've done some crazy shit the high past relationship I
have done. I've never paid anyone to try and get
to the bottom of it. But I definitely found myself
in a relationship where I felt so insane I did
not recognize myself anymore. I got to the point where
I was setting up fake Instagram profiles to be able
(32:34):
to follow to figure out what was going on, because
I couldn't see from my own profile because I'd been
blocked on certain things.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
I used to. You know how on Instagram you can
tag a location. If it's on a public profile, you
can see all of the things that have had that location.
And that's one way that I found out that I
was being cheated on Wow, because the girl that he
was with posted and tagged the location as well, Oh my.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
God, it's her. I think about that, and I'm like,
that is craziness.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
If you have to look at a location tag to
see whether someone is with him and you find it
like I shouldn't have been in that relationship.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
But I was so so destroyed.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
I had no self confidence that I wanted evidence of
the fact that what I thought was going on was
going on.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Looking for it.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I mean, we've said this from the very first day
that we started this podcast. There are some people in
the world who will inflame your crazy. You may not
be crazy in relationships, but you may meet someone who
makes you behave in a way that is absolutely not
a version of you that you like, that you're proud of,
or that you even identify with. And I think about
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that person that I became in that relationship, and I
was absolutely fucking insane, and I desperately wanted to find
truth because I couldn't believe what was happening around me.
I guess kind of coming full circle on this. Obviously
it is wrong, and I definitely am not endorsing it,
but part of me understands how someone could get there.
It is absolutely unhealthy, and if you find yourself there,
(33:59):
leave the relationship. But also if you find yourself feeling
as though you need to do it, you got to
ask yourself, well, what led me to this point?
Speaker 1 (34:07):
It's time for accidentally Unfiltered.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
This morning, I got to work super early, and outside
of our lobby they had put up this massive, gorgeous
Christmas tree. Naturally, I decided to take a pick, and
then I noticed there was a guy sleeping underneath it.
My heart just shattered on the spot. I crashed down,
very concerned, and I said, hey, how are you? Can
I get you something, a coffee, your breakfast, like anything
(34:29):
that you need And the guy looks me dead in
the eyes and goes, nah, I'm alright things. I've got
a pretty big day putting up these trees. He was
a worker's working. If you're laying down under the tree,
I think she did the right things.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Id I feel he was like trying to fix something,
like he wasn't sleeping, he was he was putting the
base of the tree on. Did I tell you about
the time that I bought a bread roll? I gave
a pizza to a guy who was on the street,
and he threw it at me and hit me in
the back of the head and said, I asked for money,
not pizza, you bitch.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
That's what happened. Maybe he didn't like Hawaiian he didn't pizza.
It's isn't it?
Speaker 3 (35:15):
It is all right? It's time of sucking, sweet Brittany.
What is your suck for the week?
Speaker 2 (35:19):
My suck is very unrelatable? Happened?
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Well?
Speaker 6 (35:23):
It is.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
It's very unrelatable because Ben and I are a long
distance and I guess because he's a footballer, like he
does things every week that usually he would be on
Google for right, so I can keep up to date
with Sometimes when he was in Scotland, I would just
Google him every week and you'd get what people are
saying about the game, what they're saying, like and he
does it to me too, because we don't get to
keep up with each other's lines. You'll be like, I'll
(35:44):
see what people saying boy Brittany this week. Since he's
moved to Romania, it's been really hard to find stuff
on him. But I just thought because he'd only been
there a few months and no one was saying anything
like nothing comes up. And I've just realized last night
Romania news is blocked in Australia. I can never google Ben.
Romanian news is blocked, Like yeah, I can nothing, nothing
(36:05):
comes up, I cannot see a thing. And I even
got a VPN.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
To try and get around his remaining blocker.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I got a VPN logged in like I was in Romania,
and it was smart enough to know and it was
like Romanian's blocked from your BVPN. I don't know if
it's got anything to do with like Andrew Tate, I
don't know what it is a political thing, but the race.
I can't find him on there, so it's yeah, you
just have.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
To talk talk to man a day when you want
to just read the de mail, get a loyalty tester
over in Romania.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I just want to Yeah, I can't even find one
yo because I can't get into Romania.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
So that's my starck very unrelatable.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
But like I can't keep up to day with him.
I have to actually talk and.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Real What is your sweet?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
My sweet? Probably probably it's the whole weekend.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
I was literally here, like is it me?
Speaker 2 (36:53):
I shut down on weekends and I'm very unsocial person.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
I don't but weekend's a good recharge time. I get it.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
So usually Delilah and I don't talk to another human.
We just go about our day. We walk, we exercise
with Gever, swim, we whatever. We catch up on life.
But I spent the whole weekend with Keisha, caught up
with some other friends, went wicked. It was just a
I just had a wholesome weekend.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
What's your suck?
Speaker 3 (37:14):
My stuck for the week is that Matt was away
for the weekend, so he was down the coast.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
He was checking like all of the changes for the house.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
You guys probably know that we're doing this renovation on
the house down south, and he went down there to
kind of like tick off some of the stuff that's
been achieved in the last couple of weeks. And I
just felt really sad because I wanted to see it.
I was like, I want to be in there and
see all the changes. And he did that, and then
he had like a boy's weekend downe South, and I
was I was just jealous.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
I think he more used an excuse for checking on
the house to have a boy's weekend.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Oh yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
Like that wasn't even He's like, babe, have lots to
check on on the house.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
There was no mystery around that. It was very evident
he went down there. He saw the house only on
Friday night, but then he was away for the whole weekend, which,
to be fair, Matt does not.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Spend a lot of time with like the boy at all.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
He's not like a you know, go to the pub
on a Sunday kind of guy at all with his friends.
So when he does go, there's a lot of grace
for it. But he was gone, he was off, and
he was doing boy things. My sweet for the week
is that we kicked some very big and amazing Tony
May goals. In the last week, we had two different
new collection shoots, one which was bridal and one which
(38:22):
was for these new Bursterne earrings that are coming out
in the next couple of.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Weeks, and they look fire.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
It's kind of weird sometimes to flick between like I
am podcaster by day and jury designer by night, but
like every so, when I'm like properly in the zone
with prennye May, it's really satisfying and I love it
so much, and so like creatively, we had these two
massive shoots which went seamlessly, and now we have these
two big collections coming out. So it was just a
(38:46):
very good work week and I got to the end
of it and I was absolutely wrecked.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
I needed my weekend. But it was like a very
achieving week for.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Work and then you had to full time solo parent.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
I love that. And it's all coming soon. So it's
Black Friday anyway.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I'm sure will drop some coats on life. There'll be
some sort.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Of Friday is coming everybody, It's coming, And that's it
from us, guys. A very big Thank you to anybody
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Hey guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
I'm Brittany and I'm Laura. Welcome back, everybody to a
Tuesday episode.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Britt you and Keisha hung out for the entire weekend
we did.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
It wasn't planned. Kesha just came over and didn't.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Leave for like three days.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I missed the days of catching up with a girlfriend
and then just staying with them for the whole weekend.
One plan rolling into another plant you guys message and
you were like, we're gonna go to Blackwood and get
breakfast and I was like, I'm coming.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Just let me figure out how to ditch my.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Children, and you were like, hang on, that's not here.
I can't ditch them.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
And I got a call and Keisha was like, actually,
there's no tables. We're just gonna get takeaway and walk
and I was like, fuck, I can't do this.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Three year old ain't.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Gonna walk to walk anywhere. My knees hurt, so my
needs her too.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
No, But it's the it's the idea of having fluid plans,
like we had zero plans that rolled into a weekend
of plans and that's because we had no responsibilities and
like no one else I had to keep a light.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Well Delilah, but she can just kind of go with
it and follows actually makes me realize.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I'm so excited. So over the Christmas period, I'm going
to see Ben in Romania, but Sherry and Jay and
my new little niece, like my sister's new daughter, Maya,
is going to come to Romania. So they're going to
stay with us for a week in Ben's two bedroom flat.
I'm really really excited to like spend that time with him.
(01:39):
And I said to Ben, this would be really great
insight because Ben Ben's never been around a kid, right,
but he thinks he has, which is the funniest part. Well,
this is how the conversation went. Ready, come along the
ride with me? Do you think we should have kids?
Like do you want kids? And he's like, yeah, I
think I want kids. I think i'd be a great dad.
And I was like, have you been around kids much?
And he's like, yeah, i'veen around heaps kids. And I'm like,
what do you mean by being around them?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Because like I've been to a shoppings before. There was
a woman that walked past the strollers. I saw them.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
They sit in the stands at the football field us
to watch rug right.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
No, he'd be like, I have heaps of friends with kids,
and I was like, yeah, but what's the most length
of time. And he'd be like, oh, I've been to
lunch with them before and held them and stuff. And
I'm like, fucking volcano. You have not been around a
kid like that is not a clear indication if you
want a child or not.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, But I also.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Argue that, like, and I kind of emphathize with what
Ben's saying, because I don't think that being around other
people's children is what necessarily makes you want to or
not want to have kids, because maybe for some people
it does. Some people really have that maternal pool, and
every time that they're around their friend's children, they had
this real, like you know, overwhelming feeling of though, Okay,
I really want to have my own children. But like,
(02:40):
I never had that, and I think there's a lot
of people that never have that. Obviously, I love my
friend's children. Are kids my friend's children, if that sounded weird.
I love my sister's kids, like you know, the other
kids in my life that are not my own. I
love them, but I never ever had the maternal pool
by being around them ever.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, but it's not I don't want him to be
around the kid to see if the maternal pools there.
That's not what I want. I just don't think he
understands the level of like what you have to do
twenty four to seven to like. I think he just
thinks you can put it down for a while and
like go about your day and then come back and
get no.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Kind of can when they're really little, just put him
in a prayer and put him in the corner.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
But if you think anyone ever knows though, do you
know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Like, do you think do you think you had a
good idea of what it was going to be like
Laura before you had them?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Guys, I still think about this, right, So, I mean,
it's so many, so many years have passed now and
Mally's fine, so no one's gonna come for me. But
I still remember when Mali was she was like four
and a half months old, and I would take her
to work with me every day.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
So she came with me back in the post office
and try to turn to send off.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I just shove her back inside me it's like if
I am done.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Matt's like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1 (03:45):
You're like, can you not gy right about? Child?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
So I was taking Mally to work with me every
day into Tony Maine, into the office and Life hun
Cut and Life on Cart.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
She came with me everywhere.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Downstairs, what happens when you're in you want and you
don't get maternally. So downstairs is the shop at Tony May.
I'm guessing most people have not been in there, and
upstairs at the office. So she was asleep, She's in
the pram and I left her in the kitchen, which
is at the back of the shop, and there's kind
of like saloon like cowboy doors that kind of swing open,
so you can see below the doors right if you're
(04:19):
standing inside the shop. So I'm upstairs, I'm doing work
and I hear everyone starts screaming, and then a baby
starts screaming, and I was like, what the fuck is
going on?
Speaker 1 (04:29):
And then I hear this woman go, oh my.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
God, there's a baby on the floor.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
And Marley had I mean, that's how we discovered she
was rolling. She had rolled out of the backs in there,
fallen out of the.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Buckeboo and landed just like starfish on the ground as
a four month old.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Baby in five years told me yeah, because I was
horrified into the workplace. I ran downstairs and no one
had even picked her up. She was just in the
kitchen on.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
The ground crying. I picked her and I was like,
they're there. I looked like such an incompetent mother. Well,
first of all, who has a saloon or no? Like
saloon doors?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Like not a saloon? You know when you walk in,
it's like you're berely supposed to be here.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I love that. That's the part that you hung onto
from that story.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Well, the other thing didn't surprise me. Even a baby
alone in the kitchen that roll about didn't surprise me.
It was having a saloon that got me.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
I'd be interested to know, like a poll of how
many moms out there? Like no, like how many times
did your kid roll off the bed by accident? Like
did it happen once? It was like did it never
happen to you? Are you a better parent than me?
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I think it happens all the time. One of my
favorite not.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Endorsing it, this is not my vibe for the wig let.
Your kid roll off the bed.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
It's character building. One of my favorite things to watch online.
And it's not the videos where the kids get hurt.
Have you seen those videos where it's just a montage
of parents that have saved their kid at the last
minute and not saved them from like a car or something,
but like a kid's about to roll off the lounge
and the dad reached and has it by one leg
in air. I love that stuff, but I'm like, wow,
how quickly it can happen.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
The near misses? Yeah, yeah, No one likes the actual kids.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
It's just the near miss Okay, look, not to make
this two kid focus for the start of this, but
something that's very big in our life at the moment,
which I wanted to share with you guys.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
So Marley's starting school next year.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Wild I know, five years considering that the day that
we started this podcast, I think I was like seven
months pregnant at the time, and then we got our
first season out when she was just born, and now
she's starting school. So I kind of like benchmark a
lot of our milestones off the fact that, like Marley's.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
At the age that she's at.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah, and so that means that so many of you guys,
your listeners. I mean, we know you come along the
journey with us in like in our love lives and
everything happens, but like so much you've been there, like
our listeners have been there since she was born.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
So she's starting school and we had orientation last week
for her, and this wasn't orientation for her, so like
they have like a kid's orientation next week she starts that,
but this was orientation for parents. So all the parents
go and they sit in the school hall and like
we got told about the canteen about after school care,
and there was a little kindergartener who got up and
she did a speech around how much she loves going
(07:11):
to school and all the things that she learned at school,
and she was reading it amazing. Then they had like
the year six school captains who did their little speech
as well, and it really gave me so much nostalgia
for when I was at school, Like do you remember
being in year six or being in kindergarten and getting
a buddy and getting paired with like another kid to show.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
You around the school like the older kid. Yes, So
when I was.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
In year six, I didn't get a buddy because I
wasn't well enough behaved.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I was too naughty. I had two and I didn't
get it. Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
The craziest thing though, when I was in year six,
I my buddy who was in kindergarten, one of the two.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I still follow her on Instagram. She's awesome. I love her.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
She has two children, and I'm like, you know when you.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Just yeah that moment where were like, oh, I thought
I was still a child, but you're You're like, I
was meant to look after you when you were in
kindergarten and now you have two children.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Of you You're like, how do you have two children?
And I'm still a teenager? That's right, I'm in my thirties.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
That's child pregnancy.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
I was school captain, so I was probably too busy
to have a body like I always you are school captain.
I was running the school, so it was pretty big.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I didn't see that coming.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I was high school. In primary school, I was on
over cheek. Yeah, it's hard to see now, I get that,
because no, I can't get my shit together.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
My mum had to beg our school principal not to
expel me because I punched in the face.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Now wonder you had, no buddy. I was in year four.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
She told a boy named that I wanted to have
sex with him, and I was in year four, and
then I found out what that meant. So I punched
her in the face in front of the asample.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
How does she even know that? In you four, I'm concerned,
I punched a boy in the face, and I'll never
forget it. I can picture exactly where we were outside
of the canteen, probably in y four as well. I
picture exactly what happened. I can remember what he said,
and he said this really mean thing about my brother,
and I said, say it again and I'll punch you
in the face. And he just looked at me and
(08:59):
said it again, and I just went boom and punched
him in the face. And I was like, it was
like one of those things where I was like, only
I can say shit about them, you know those things.
I'm like, I can I probably agree with you, but
you can't say it. I can say it. And I've
gotten so much trouble and you.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Were still the school captain and I got almost expelled. Yeah,
for these reasons, I would like to.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Say that on this podcast, we don't endorse children rolling
on the floor when they're babies, or punching people in
the face.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
No, no, violence is never the answer.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
Kids.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Okay, well I've got some goss for you. Last night
was the world premiere of Wicked. World premiere. We were
the first people in the entire world to see the
new Wicked movie with Ariana Grande, Ethan Slater. Jonathan Bailey.
I don't know why Australia gets picked to be the
world leader.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I have a theory and we're going about this until
this morning, because last night I was really like, Wow,
of all the places like Australia, I think it's because
the movie Wicked and the Wizard of Oz stories are
all based in Oz, so they've brought the premiere to Oz.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
The Gladiators world premiere last week was in Oz two.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
I don't know about the last I have no theories
for Gladiator, but my current theory is that they must
have launched it in Australia because of the Oz connection.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
We'll go with us.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
This is the movie that Ariana Grande and Ethan Slater
had an affair on, So you guys might remember we
were speaking about this. We talked about this affair that
went down and the backlash, the reputational damage that happened
off the back of it.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
For those of you who.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Don't remember Ethan Slater, he was married to Lily J
and they had a three month old baby when the
rumors of an affair with Arina Grande came out, and
I would say that it's not uncommon for affairs to
happen on set, but it is uncommon for it to
happen when you have a baby at home. And the
backlash to it was so quick and so severe. People
were calling Ariana Grande a home wrecker, and Lily J
(10:52):
came out. She did a very damning article with Page
six an interview at the time, and she called Ariana
Grande not a girl girl. They've very rarely been seen
together as a couple, and now they're on their promotional
tour for the movie that was responsible for them both
leaving their respective partners.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And you should have seen the tens of thousands of
people of fans that came out to see the exact
same thing. Like I shouldn't say the exact same thing.
They're probably just fans of them and wanted to see them.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
So we got there.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
We had to get our uber driver to drop us
off like four blocks up the road. There were thousands
and thousands of people lining the street. They didn't have
passes to go and see the movie. Because there were
also some tickets given out to people who were really
big fans of Wicked and stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
There were a lot of people going to see the movie.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
As well, but there were thousands of people lining the
streets just waiting to get that. It must have only
been fifteen seconds of when they get out of their
security cars and walk the yellow brick road into the theater.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I've never seen things like It was like you were
a salmon all pushed together and you could barely walk,
Like it was like you were at a concert, like
going a vivid worse. But it was so fascinating because
they were Ethan and Ariana were together, like they were
holding hands. It was really interesting to see after like
two years. And this is the only thing that makes
what they did remotely better is that you're like, Okay,
(12:09):
if you end up together and get married and you
ended up being soulmates, it almost becomes more palatable, like
more acceptable. If they just had this affair and then
broke up like three months later and they ruined all
their lives, then you want to hate on them forever.
But it was interesting to see how people. I think
a lot of people just forget that it happened. I mean,
(12:30):
we don't because we're in the media and we talk
about it, but I think a lot of people and
that went to show with all the amount of fans
that came to screaming and crying, I think a lot
of people forget that it even happens.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
What I thought was interesting was that how it worked
is that when we walked into the State Theater, there
are different levels to the theater, and we were on the
lower level, and so everyone eventually takes their seats, and
then the cast of the movie were introduced onto the
stage and they did a little bit of a Q
and A with some of the cast members, including this
from Ariana Grande.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Give people the chance because there's so many to everything.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
There's so much humanness and context that gets erased these days, and.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I feel like I hope it inspires people to leave
with the fee and with more above and really there'll
be someone with Elfa who some day.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
But as they were standing on stage, and the thing
that I was really interested by was do you remember
when Don't Worry Darling was going through all of their controversy,
that was the Hurry Styles and Olivia Wilde controversy, And
whenever they were doing the PR circuit anywhere they were,
they almost somewhat deliberately kept.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Them separate, like quite far away from each other.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
And I was curious about how they were going to
approach all of the PR that they were doing for Wicked.
So on the stage, Ethan was quite far to the
left and Ariana was almost as far as you could
be to the right.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
There were like maybe four people in.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
Between the two of them on the stage, and I
did find that quite interesting.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
But then later before the film came on.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
The actors, because it was the world premiere, it was
the first time that they were probably seeing it with
a crowd, if not seeing it in total, they actually
went to the middle level of the theater and Arianna
and Ethan were holding hands as they were walking down
to the seats, and then they sat down together.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
And watched the whole film together as a couple.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
I think it's very different, though, and I think it's
the proximity of the controversy because when you think about
someone like Harry Styles and a live wild.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
They were in the midst of the storm.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
They were literally in the eye of the storm of
the controversy around their relationship, and that came out during
the promotional tour. This the breakdown of their relationships, Arianna's
breakdown of her marriage and Ethan's breakdown of his marriage.
That all happened almost a year and a half ago
now or two years ago, and so.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
I think having that distance between is what has allowed
them to kind of move into the premiere and everything
and be a united front as a couple without having
the level of hatred.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
But one thing, and I'm going to do a spoiler
here for people. I'm going to do a spoiler for
one line in the movie. So if you don't want
to listen, fast forward now a minute. The movie was brilliant,
Like I genuinely loved it. I got goosebumps, I was
in it. I was it's a musical.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
What about for people who hate musicals, you still would
love it.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I think you would enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
It's the most amazing cinematography I have ever seen any film.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
It's brilliant.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
It was exceptional.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
So keep in mind that Arianna and Ethan are upstairs
like they're in the crowd watching right. Everyone is quiet,
and Ethan's character is pioneing over Ariana in the movie,
and this one point she asks him to do something
for her. She's like, can you go do this for me?
And he's like yes, and she's like, oh, come on,
oh my god, that's so amazing. And he looks at
her and everything silent, and he goes, there is nothing
(15:41):
I wouldn't do to be with you. And it was
such a pointed statement, considering that he left his style
family to be with her. And the audience and they're
up there and the audience some people like that. They gasped,
some people laughed, some people it was like loud, like
collectively because people were like, people were so shocked that
they made a choice, a directorial choice to keep that
(16:05):
line in there.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I turned to Britain.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
I was like, I cannot believe, after all of the
shit that they had to go through filming this movie
and all of the bad pr that they had to navigate,
they left that in.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
But maybe that was a strategy. Maybe that's part of
that's horrible. It's interesting because I think that your take
on this is that they haven't or that they've overcome
the reputational damage, where I would say from the outset
and the way that media still talks about them that
they haven't, and the fact that they've been able to
so that they've kept themselves private for the past year
was absolutely intentional. The amount of hate that the two
(16:37):
of them received, all of the articles that came out,
and the Page six article in particular, like, you can't
outrun that, and so I think the only way to
try and distance yourself from it is literally distance yourself
from it with the space and the time that they have.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
That's why I was so shocked that at the start
that they kept a line in, because if they had
completely overcome it, then the line wouldn't matter so much.
But because they're still in the thick of it, I
think I feel like all the line was doing was
doubling down on it. But I also Keisha and I
had this discussion. Keisha was like, I cannot believe they
left that in, and I said, I can.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I didn't think it was that needed.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
I don't think the movie would have been any different
if they had to remove that line, and so they
have made a pretty active decision to leave it in there.
Maybe it's because of the press that it will get
because people are going to talk. I mean, I was
particularly shocked about it. As we walked out, I was.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Like, how about them leaving that in? That's pretty crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
I do wonder whether the affair will have a positive
or negative impact on the box office, Like on the
on people watching it A people are going to watch
it because they're going to want to see them falling
in love and see what it was about their chemistry
or their relationship that made him walk away from his
like sweetheart. Or is it going to be a situation
where people because cheating is something that we feel so
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morally like that it's so strong, like people's perceptions and
feelings around cheating, Like there's nothing that kind of parallels
except for like actual heinous crimes, So like, is that
going to have an impact where people go out of
my own moral judgment. I'm not going to go and
see this because I can't support something that was born
out of a cheating scandal.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
No, people's morals aren't high enough in this stuff. For years,
we've been told that they fell in love on set, right,
people want to see what it was. I was shocked
at how little interactions they had in the movie. He's
not a key character. It's very similar to Sidney Sweeney
and Glenn Powell. So you know the recent movie that
came out anyone but you, it's been panned as like
the most terrible movies.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
I loved it.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
I loved it.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
If you read any we love a rom com. But
if my point is, if you read any review, it's
like terrible script, terrible acting, terrible plot. Like people, people
didn't like it. But for the whole pr tour, the
question on everyone's lips is was are they together? Did
his girlfriend leave because something happened? Has she left her fiance?
Because they were playing it up. People wanted to then
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go and see the movie more because they thought that
maybe in real life it had translated. They came out
after and were like, yeah, like you lean into it,
you give the people what they want.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
But also it makes you a question like is it
a storyline? Is it just something that's prable. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
I mean, it's a very easy way of covering up
something that might have happened. But on that I fucking
loved that movie. And I think that anyone who said
it was shit just doesn't lack a cheesy romcom.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
I do think that the key difference between those and
even with the Olivia Wilde Harry styles kind of dilemma
as well, I do think that the key difference is
what you spoke about at the very start, laws and
that's the fact that Ethan's ex wife now or wife
at the time, had a three month old baby. And
so we can feel very different about cheating when it's
just like adults involved and you know their feelings are
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gonna get hurt. But I think it's a really really
different thing for us to grasp when there's children involved,
especially when they're so young, and for anyone who may
have been through that process themselves of having a baby
and imagining what their life was like with a three
month old and having to watch.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
You, one of the most famous women in the world,
be with your partner.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Yeah, I was particularly interested to see their interactions last night,
and I left more confused.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
The last thing to come out of this on a
high note is that I got to see my hall
pass on one of there's a few speaking of affairs,
one of my hall passes and my crush in real life.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Because that's probably the safest because he's gay. Yeah, he's gay.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Can a wole past still be a hall pass if
he doesn't ever want to touch me?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Absolutely? It's a fantasy.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Britain.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Your hall pass could be fucking big bird for all
anyone in mine. It's like, it's that's sick, Laura.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Bast reality gets weird?
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Could it be? What was that dinosaur? The purple one?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
Also see Barney Barney beast Reality Barney.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Why do you want to think about me having sex
with Barney?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I reckon? If Barney was real, Barney would be hot.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
No.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
So Jonathan Bailey, I think I think I'm not alone
in this. Jonathan Bailey is from Bridgeton. He is a beautiful,
beautiful man. I think I fell in love with his
character on Bridgeton. I don't know, but it was really
nice to see him. But I don't know if Yeah,
I don't know if I should change my hall pass
considering that he only dates man.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I think it is safer to have a hall pass
that you're never going to have the opportunity to have
sex with Like that's because like it becomes a problem
if it's someone who could potentially be attainable and might
also want to return serve yeah, capend's happy.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
Yeah depends like fuck, go for it back, try your luck.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Well, speaking of cheating, and I know that this has
kind of become a common theme of this episode, but
there's something that is happening on TikTok at the moment,
and it is a real trend that has taken over
the algorithm, and that is something that is called loyalty testing. Now,
if you haven't heard of loyalty testing, it's had over
one hundred and twenty five million tags on TikTok. It's
also very prevalent on Instagram as well, and it may
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be coming to your algorithm soon. But the way that
it works is basically, there are profiles and users on
both platforms who you can pay money to to loyalty
test your partner. So if you are unsure as to
whether they would be faithful if they were put in
the position where a hot woman or a hot man
was flirting with them, you can now pay someone to
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do that and to be that person and to get
the cold, hard proof for you.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Guess.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
I had a few questions about this because the more
all and ethical issues with this are very very obvious,
but I think it's interesting to unpack the how and
the why does someone get to a place where they
feel as though they need to loyalty test their relationship
and also what's the impact of doing so when you
or if you find out that somebody has or could
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be unfaithful to you, Because is it as impactful and
is it still infidelity if you have technically entrapped your
partner into the situation that they're in.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Have a listen to this.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
I used to do loyalty tests. Girls would have me
d youm their boyfriends and flirt with them to see
if they would flirt back or stay loyal. I would
side by pretending like I was moving to whatever city
he lived in and then asking him to be my
tour guide. It'll be shocked how many guys felt for this,
Like as if I wanted Jake from Cappasi to show
me around with Denver, like I have maths, bib, I'm good.
(22:49):
Then the girl would like basically just tell me everything
to say, and then I would eventually ask if you
had a girlfriend, and if you lied, then I gave
her the screenshots and she could just like break up
with them.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I had to stop.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Some of them got depressing and also I realized a
lot of guys out there are idiots.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Like the conversations I have with these guys, I don't
know how you guys do it.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
I don't know how you guys dat These guys like
you guys are in the trenches here.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
I just think it's wild that this is people's jobs,
that people are making money from testing other people's relationship.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
If you can make money from selling your feet online,
I am not surprised that you can make money from
trying to tempt someone's partner to cheat with you.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
The thing is a lot of people out there can
see the enticing effect that selling your feet for money
would make. Right, it's they're attached to the bottom of you.
You don't have to put your face in it, and
you can make banks.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
A lot of people have foot fetishes, but a lot
of people cheat as well.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
It doesn't surprise me how many people cheat. It surprises
me how many people would want to go to the
level of trying to find out for a multitude of reasons,
if their partner's cheating.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
So my take on this though, is, like like I said,
it's very obvious to everybody here that it is not
healthy to loyalty test your partner. But I would also
say that to get to that point where you feel
though you need to loyalty test your partner, it's probably
been a long road of decaying your trust, of feeling
as though you can't believe your surroundings, like you have
(24:09):
the intuition that something's going on, but they're telling you
that you're crazy. So I would say that, like, and
I think for anyone who's been in a really toxic
relation to shit where they've been cheated on, you can
kind of remove yourself from it a little bit and
understand how someone might get to the point where they
feel as though this is their only option to figure
out whether or not their partner is truthful or not.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
No, I and I do understand that, I do understand
why some people are like I just need to know.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
I need to know.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
It's easy for us to sit back and say, if
you feel like you don't trust your partner nothing, you
shouldn't be in the relationship. We've all done it, We've
all gone back to cheaters. We know what it's like
to be sucked into that toxic vortex. Some people need
that one little bit of evidence they're nail in the
coffin to be like, yes, this is what I needed
to actually walk away, like to actively see you engage
with someone else, pretend I don't exist. That's what I want.
(24:59):
But I think it goes to a deeper level too.
It's easy for our brain to go first to that
being the reason why people do loyalty tests, but I
think there's another aspect, which is people feeling insecure in themselves.
And I'm not putting this blame on anyone, but there
are a lot of people that have trouble trusting in
a relationship due to nothing that their partner is doing,
but simply due to the past that they've experienced. So
(25:20):
maybe they've been cheated on horrifically multiple times, maybe they
have huge trust issues that they have taken into their
new relationship, and maybe it's just like a you know,
well this has happened to me this many times. I'm
just going to make sure that he's a good one.
So if they pass the loyalty test, which the testers
have said loads of people pass.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Like yeah, a lot of people's like no, sorry, I've
got to go at front or block or whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Exactly, So then the loyalty tester will screenshot that send
it to them and be like, you know, he passed,
they passed, she passed. What happens then if you do pass,
but your partner finds out that you loyalty tested them,
that is another level of betrayal on them, because then
they're going to say, well, you don't trust me, so
they've lost trusting you. It's like trust is a two
way street course.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
I mean, could you imagine being in a relationship where
you found out that your partner paid money to have
some random person on the internet test your loyalty tests
whether or not you would be tempted. I think for
this though, the real issue is that could be a
reverse you know card, like reverse you know I'm leaving
you you don't trust me enough that you've tested me?
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Yeah, I was just trying to think of like how
Matt would respond to that, and it would not be
good for me. This is an itch that will never
be scratched because I think if you were in a
relationship where you're suspicious and you have that intuition that
something is wrong or you feel as though your partner
may be unfaithful, if presented with the opportunity, even if
you get back a response that they didn't do it,
or that they passed that sort of test. I don't
(26:44):
think that it will satisfy the feeling of uncertainty. I
don't think that it will instantly absolve. And the reason
why I say that is because it's kind of like
if you've ever found yourself in a situation where you're
looking in your partner's phone. And I know that a
lot of people will relate to this, if you've ever
been in a relationship where you found yourself checking their
phone because you think they're being unfaithful. Even if you
don't find something one time, you'll probably look again, because
(27:07):
just because you didn't find something one time doesn't mean
that instantly that that feeling, that intuition that like, holy shit,
I can't trust my reality is actually satisfied by not
uncovering anything. And I just think that this is the
scratch that can't be itched, but that can't be scratched,
the itch that can't be scratched, you can't scratch that.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Actually think that there's certain relationships I've been in one
particular that was just very very bad, and I was
bad in it as well, And I remember being at
a point where like I never paid anyone to do
a loyalty test, but had it have been around my
initial reaction now is like, if you would ever actually
want to do that, you've got so many problems in
your relationship that you should just break up anyway in
(27:46):
the stage of my relationship, and I actually think I
would have been in a position where I would have
rather found out that he was cheating than found out nothing.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
I was so suspicious of everything that was going on.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
I'd been gaslit so badly that I, un you only
was questioning every aspect of my reality. And I think
just having the evidence of something would have made me
feel as though.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
I wasn't losing my mind, you know.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Yeah, that would have been satisfaction in that, even though
it was hurtful information.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
It makes me sad that one hundred and twenty five
million people have created content off the back of this
because that's where they've found themselves in their relationships.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I don't think one hundred and twenty five million people
are doing it for that reason. We also live in
a society where we want to make content the people
that want to watch this shit. I think the fact
that this content is available also pushes people to make
the content. I think people would be getting this idea
to do this when this idea never would have even
popped into their head. They're like, I'm like to do
a loyalty test. I think we are such an impressionable
generation that there'd be people doing it that wouldn't normally
(28:41):
do it as well.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Imagine if you did this and then the outcome was
that your partner failed the loyalty test, Like, what do
you then do with that information?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Go viral? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Exactly, but I need the creative fund so you can
financially everything for cliqus.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
It's also not reliable evidence of fidelity or infidelity. Like
having one person slide into DM and hit you up,
there's a high chance that they're not interested in the
person anyway, They're not attracted to the person. Maybe they're
too busy with all their other partners they're cheating on
you with to add another one to the mix. Like,
I don't think it's the evidence that people want.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Is it still considered infidelity if nothing was ever going
to amount from it, If it is literally a trap
that has been coerced and conditioned to try and get
the outcome of cheating, is it still as bad as
if they had gone out and just done it spontaneously.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Absolutely, I don't think there's a difference between spontaneous cheating
or what did you just call it? Intentional cheating? No,
like intentional spontaneous cheating, right, there's two types, there's multiple types.
I don't think there's a difference. If they commit to
the cheating, it doesn't matter if they went to find it,
or if they responded to a stimulus that was presented
to the mount of the blue. At the end of
the day, you still cheat it.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
I kind of say this similar to you know when
we get a lot of messages from people for usk
gun Cut, and it's essentially them saying, I've gone through
my partner's phone and I've found this thing, and I
don't know how to bring it up with them because
I feel really bad about the thing that I did.
If we're comparing entrapment or like trying to find out
whether your partner's cheating with they were cheating and they
(30:12):
got caught. To me, yes, they're both.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Sins, but one's a lot bigger than the other.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Like trying to find out the entrapment part to me
doesn't seem as bad of a break of the relationship.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
I feel like that about checking someone's phone, but I
don't feel like that about paying someone to intentionally flirt
with your partner. So like, and that's the problem, I guess,
like we've always just said, Okay, well, what's the worst
of two evils? Is it the fact that you went
through their phone? Or is it the fact that you
found something. It's the fact that you found something, But
in this instance, I actually think it's the action of
(30:44):
paying someone to be that person to try and like
tempt the partner is also equally as bad.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah, but then it depends on the outcome, because if
they do say, yeah, let's fuck, I've got this hotel,
then you're gonna be like, yes, queen, that is you
knew deep down, that's why you get this out, do
you know what I mean? Like, it depends no, but
that's what I mean. It depends on the outcomist. Whether
you say that something was worth something, that's anything in life.
This is not going to come as a surprise people, guys.
(31:12):
It goes back to communicate. And I don't mean go
and say, hey, are you cheating on me? Because they're
not gonna say yes. No one is ever going to
be like, you got me, I'm so glad you asked.
That's never gonna happen. But communicate that you feel insecure
in a relationship, and why gauge their response. We say
this all the time. The way if you go to
your partner and you present the way you're feeling and
(31:33):
the why their reaction is so tell tale to what
your relationship is, the respect that they have for the
relationship and how they feel about you, Because if they
throw that back in your face, if they don't listen,
if nothing changes, it's going to tell you a whole
lot more. Anyway.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
I also just think it depends on how much of
a master manipulator you are in a relationship with. But
I do think a lot of people find themselves in
relationships where that uncertainty comes because the person that they're
in that relationship with is a narcissist or is like
so deeply toxic and they are so able to lie
that that means they questioned their entire reality around them.
And I think in those situations it is almost impossible
(32:11):
to get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
It's almost impossible to figure out fact from fiction.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
We've done some crazy shit the high past relationship I
have done. I've never paid anyone to try and get
to the bottom of it. But I definitely found myself
in a relationship where I felt so insane I did
not recognize myself anymore. I got to the point where
I was setting up fake Instagram profiles to be able
(32:34):
to follow to figure out what was going on, because
I couldn't see from my own profile because I'd been
blocked on certain things.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
I used to. You know how on Instagram you can
tag a location. If it's on a public profile, you
can see all of the things that have had that location.
And that's one way that I found out that I
was being cheated on Wow, because the girl that he
was with posted and tagged the location as well, Oh my.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
God, it's her. I think about that, and I'm like,
that is craziness.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
If you have to look at a location tag to
see whether someone is with him and you find it
like I shouldn't have been in that relationship.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
But I was so so destroyed.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
I had no self confidence that I wanted evidence of
the fact that what I thought was going on was
going on.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Looking for it.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I mean, we've said this from the very first day
that we started this podcast. There are some people in
the world who will inflame your crazy. You may not
be crazy in relationships, but you may meet someone who
makes you behave in a way that is absolutely not
a version of you that you like, that you're proud of,
or that you even identify with. And I think about
(33:39):
that person that I became in that relationship, and I
was absolutely fucking insane, and I desperately wanted to find
truth because I couldn't believe what was happening around me.
I guess kind of coming full circle on this. Obviously
it is wrong, and I definitely am not endorsing it,
but part of me understands how someone could get there.
It is absolutely unhealthy, and if you find yourself there,
(33:59):
leave the relationship. But also if you find yourself feeling
as though you need to do it, you got to
ask yourself, well, what led me to this point?
Speaker 1 (34:07):
It's time for accidentally Unfiltered.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
This morning, I got to work super early, and outside
of our lobby they had put up this massive, gorgeous
Christmas tree. Naturally, I decided to take a pick, and
then I noticed there was a guy sleeping underneath it.
My heart just shattered on the spot. I crashed down,
very concerned, and I said, hey, how are you? Can
I get you something, a coffee, your breakfast, like anything
(34:29):
that you need And the guy looks me dead in
the eyes and goes, nah, I'm alright things. I've got
a pretty big day putting up these trees. He was
a worker's working. If you're laying down under the tree,
I think she did the right things.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
Id I feel he was like trying to fix something,
like he wasn't sleeping, he was he was putting the
base of the tree on. Did I tell you about
the time that I bought a bread roll? I gave
a pizza to a guy who was on the street,
and he threw it at me and hit me in
the back of the head and said, I asked for money,
not pizza, you bitch.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
That's what happened. Maybe he didn't like Hawaiian he didn't pizza.
It's isn't it?
Speaker 3 (35:15):
It is all right? It's time of sucking, sweet Brittany.
What is your suck for the week?
Speaker 2 (35:19):
My suck is very unrelatable? Happened?
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Well?
Speaker 6 (35:23):
It is.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
It's very unrelatable because Ben and I are a long
distance and I guess because he's a footballer, like he
does things every week that usually he would be on
Google for right, so I can keep up to date
with Sometimes when he was in Scotland, I would just
Google him every week and you'd get what people are
saying about the game, what they're saying, like and he
does it to me too, because we don't get to
keep up with each other's lines. You'll be like, I'll
(35:44):
see what people saying boy Brittany this week. Since he's
moved to Romania, it's been really hard to find stuff
on him. But I just thought because he'd only been
there a few months and no one was saying anything
like nothing comes up. And I've just realized last night
Romania news is blocked in Australia. I can never google Ben.
Romanian news is blocked, Like yeah, I can nothing, nothing
(36:05):
comes up, I cannot see a thing. And I even
got a VPN.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
To try and get around his remaining blocker.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
I got a VPN logged in like I was in Romania,
and it was smart enough to know and it was
like Romanian's blocked from your BVPN. I don't know if
it's got anything to do with like Andrew Tate, I
don't know what it is a political thing, but the race.
I can't find him on there, so it's yeah, you
just have.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
To talk talk to man a day when you want
to just read the de mail, get a loyalty tester
over in Romania.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I just want to Yeah, I can't even find one
yo because I can't get into Romania.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
So that's my starck very unrelatable.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
But like I can't keep up to day with him.
I have to actually talk and.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
Real What is your sweet?
Speaker 2 (36:47):
My sweet? Probably probably it's the whole weekend.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
I was literally here, like is it me?
Speaker 2 (36:53):
I shut down on weekends and I'm very unsocial person.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
I don't but weekend's a good recharge time. I get it.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
So usually Delilah and I don't talk to another human.
We just go about our day. We walk, we exercise
with Gever, swim, we whatever. We catch up on life.
But I spent the whole weekend with Keisha, caught up
with some other friends, went wicked. It was just a
I just had a wholesome weekend.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
What's your suck?
Speaker 3 (37:14):
My stuck for the week is that Matt was away
for the weekend, so he was down the coast.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
He was checking like all of the changes for the house.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
You guys probably know that we're doing this renovation on
the house down south, and he went down there to
kind of like tick off some of the stuff that's
been achieved in the last couple of weeks. And I
just felt really sad because I wanted to see it.
I was like, I want to be in there and
see all the changes. And he did that, and then
he had like a boy's weekend downe South, and I
was I was just jealous.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
I think he more used an excuse for checking on
the house to have a boy's weekend.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Oh yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
Like that wasn't even He's like, babe, have lots to
check on on the house.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
There was no mystery around that. It was very evident
he went down there. He saw the house only on
Friday night, but then he was away for the whole weekend, which,
to be fair, Matt does not.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Spend a lot of time with like the boy at all.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
He's not like a you know, go to the pub
on a Sunday kind of guy at all with his friends.
So when he does go, there's a lot of grace
for it. But he was gone, he was off, and
he was doing boy things. My sweet for the week
is that we kicked some very big and amazing Tony
May goals. In the last week, we had two different
new collection shoots, one which was bridal and one which
(38:22):
was for these new Bursterne earrings that are coming out
in the next couple of.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Weeks, and they look fire.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
It's kind of weird sometimes to flick between like I
am podcaster by day and jury designer by night, but
like every so, when I'm like properly in the zone
with prennye May, it's really satisfying and I love it
so much, and so like creatively, we had these two
massive shoots which went seamlessly, and now we have these
two big collections coming out. So it was just a
(38:46):
very good work week and I got to the end
of it and I was absolutely wrecked.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
I needed my weekend. But it was like a very
achieving week for.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Work and then you had to full time solo parent.
Speaker 1 (38:56):
I love that. And it's all coming soon. So it's
Black Friday anyway.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I'm sure will drop some coats on life. There'll be
some sort.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Of Friday is coming everybody, It's coming, And that's it
from us, guys. A very big Thank you to anybody
who went onto our socials recently and filled out the survey,
which means big changes and big things are coming in
twenty twenty five for Life on Cut.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
It is so important that you guys give us that
feedback because we are here to make a product for you,
and we've been doing this for a long time, so
we want to know what you love, what you want changed,
what you want switched around. And they're not going to
be huge changes for sure, but we're going to make
the little tweaks to suit your feedback. So if you
haven't yet done the survey, please do. And if you
(39:38):
have done the survey, thank you very much. We really
appreciate the good, bad, the ugly.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
We had so many nice messages and battleanes but of
so many nice messages, so we really appreciate you guys.
But also just the feedback. Like Britz said, it is
so so important for us. And I know you say
there are any little changes, but maybe there's some big
ones coming too next year.
Speaker 6 (39:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
No, it's gonna be fun, fresh and fun. That's what
we are, right and fantastic, fresh and fantastic.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Anyway, guys, that is it from us, Done, Dog tea
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