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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hi, this is Annette
Vinedetti, your hostess for a
locker room talk, and shots, thepodcast that likes to think of
itself as the queer NPR ofraunchy women's sex talk.
You are about to sit in on thekind of conversations women have
on their girls' nights out orbehind closed doors, while
enjoying delicious drinks anddishing about sex, think, fun,
(00:26):
honest and feminist as fuck, andalways with the goal of
fighting the patriarchy, oneorgasm at a time.
Welcome to the locker room.
Today's locker room talk topicis facials how women really feel
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about men's semen.
That's right, we're talkingabout come shots to the face,
although, let's be honest, weare not limiting our
conversation to come on the face, but we are definitely.
This topic was inspired by theconcept of come upon one's face,
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and my guest today is one of myfavorite gals, ruby, aka Deanna
, who has joined me on multiplepodcasts.
Deanna, what is your favoriteso far?
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I'd have to say it
was the most Googled questions.
Sex questions yes, becausethere was some questions that I
was like really you're askingthis?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Yeah, there were some
funny ones.
So if you guys have not yetlistened to it, it's a couple
episodes back and we covered themost searched sex questions
from the COVID years and it waspretty fun.
We had the whole crew on it.
It had been a while since I haddone a podcast with everybody
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on it, so today it's just Deannaand I talking about giz on the
face.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
That's right, just a
little intimate conversation
about come.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
And so, in the spirit
of today's topic, we did not
search for a drink at allbecause, well, I didn't have
time.
So instead I thought I'm justgoing to look at what's left in
my booze cabinet from all of thedrinks I've been creating over
the last several months, and I'mgoing to create a shot just for
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this podcast.
So I created a shot that I amcalling Deanna.
We are calling Deanna actuallycame up with the name and we're
calling it the money shot, andyou can make it for very little
money.
It's cheap.
It's from the leftover booze inmy fridge.
I will put up the recipe atsome point and you will be able
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to make it at home on your ownand raise your class along with
us.
So let's just dive right intothe spoo.
Sperm, giz, come.
Protein pack, protein pack, ourprotein packed conversation.
So let's talk about sex.
I'm ready.
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Yeah, it is actually.
It's a refreshing drink.
It's very spring, like you know, it's not quite spring yet.
But onto what's important.
Come in the face.
I was inspired by.
I was inspired to address thistopic Because, while I love
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fucking, and I love fucking inall different ways, I personally
have not until very recentlyappreciated specifically the
male coming from a penis andtesticle, come just boo what it
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spits out into an upon me.
I have not appreciated it, Ihave not liked it.
I would say, in fact, for awhile I would have actually said
I hated it.
Deanna, what has yourhistorical relationship been
with come?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
That's what I want to
know about.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Way back when Right.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I'm not going to say
when we have to have some
secrets anyways, I have neverhad a problem with it, you've
never had a problem with it.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
But have you liked?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, I have and yeah
, I have liked it.
Well, I still like it.
You know, when you get thatwarm load on your ass, it's, I
think it's sexy and it's a turnon.
You know, I imagine it'sprobably the same as how people
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feel when they're with a womanand she gets really, you know,
wet and you feel her juices.
It's about the same thing whena guy you know food is
especially so.
There's like that pre come.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, and you know I
have not found that quite as
offensive in the past.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
So it's just a little
bit.
It's not like it's the wadcoming out.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, so yeah, I like
all things come.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Can we just talk
about the word wad?
I mean, it's also a gross word.
Maybe part of the problem isthe words you nut, oh yeah, nut
wad.
We need to be pulling up a listof fucking synonyms.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Well, with wad, you
know it's from the phrase blow
your wad.
And now don't quote me on this.
I'm not saying I'm a historianon slang, but thinking about
income or slang, just slang butthinking about you know, blowing
your wad is when you ejaculate,and I wouldn't be surprised if
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it's per.
It's an old term because whenyou think about gunpowder, like
rifles, they have a wad in themand so when you shoot off, it's
called a wad.
When you shoot off the gun,you're blowing the wad out, so
maybe that's where it came from.
I'm just guessing.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Wow, that's very
intellectual of you.
I am Tiana.
You're bringing some integrityto this fucking conversation.
Hey, we're intelligent women.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
That's right.
We're not just all about sexand cum.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Oh, I bet you know.
Anyways, I did look up.
I tried to look up synonyms forejaculate.
I refused to call it ejaculate.
By the way, I will not writeabout it as ejaculate.
I do study a little bit beforeI do these podcasts to see if I
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can bring any fun facts to youfolks.
And something that really Ifound kind of funny was most of
the articles and mainstreampublications throughout there.
I think they're just afraid,like I don't know they're trying
to be proper about it.
So when the ejaculate is onyour it just I'm not using the
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word ejaculate.
No, but beside the point, Ilike your point about WOD.
I don't.
But when I think of the wordWOD I think of like spitting a
wall, you know, like a loogie.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Which is probably why
I had an aversion to cum for a
long time.
I have had a change of heart inthe last little stint of my
life.
For the first time in my life Ihave not felt repulsed and
literally gotten up to run tothe bathroom after someone has
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put their cum in or on me, whichis what I did in the past.
That might have been Well Imean, look, I was not always
overt about it, but you know, Ithink most people understand it
after sex the woman's like, oh,I've got to go potty, right, and
you slink off to the bathroomand stuff like that.
(08:55):
But recently I have actuallyfound myself really turned on by
it and as I have sort ofstarted deconstructing you know,
my shame around my negativeview of different sex acts, it
has caused me to ask myself,like why do you feel this way
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about cum?
And specifically because I havebeen asked in the past if I
would like if someone could comeon my face, and I've been like,
what the fuck are you talkingabout?
Fuck you.
No, like very.
I had a very violent reactionto it.
And so, as of recently, as myrelationship with semen and
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common spoo has changed, I'vebeen like what is this facial
thing all about?
Let me be clear no one hasrequested that I do a facial,
but I'm like.
I'm like, well, maybe I'm opento seeing why.
Why would someone be into that?
Maybe it's something I shouldconsider.
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So I decided I would turn toscience first, friends second
and, believe it or not, folks,as I searched and searched and
dug through the internet, thereis there has not been a lot of
scientific study done on facials.
Are you surprised by that,deanna?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
No, not at all.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
There have been a
handful of articles about
facials and very publicationswilling to tentatively approach
the subject and mostly thearticles I wrote.
The older articles I read.
It was very, it was very almostit was shaming about the idea
of facials and and how it'shurting and no one should think
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that's normal and it's.
You know, there was Dr, was itDr Ruth?
Remember she's got.
I can't believe she's fuckingstill alive.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
She's still alive.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Well, she was as of
the time that article was
written.
I think it was 2011.
I don't, hey, alexa, is Dr Ruthstill alive?
Folks?
I don't know how I just got anAlexa and I don't know how
that's going to come through onthe recording, but apparently
yes, I just fact checked myselfDr Ruth is still alive and she
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had I don't know if it was.
I think she was on Twitter orsomething like that but she had.
Oh no, maybe it was pulled froma book.
She wrote that, basically, youngpeople should be taught that
facials are not a normal part ofsex.
And I'm saying, you know, Isort of, whenever I bump up
against these conventional normsaround sex, I have that sort of
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rebellious spirit in me that'slike well, why does it have to
be so yucky?
Well, as you move, as I startedto read, articles kind of that
were released closer and closerto current date.
There are things like DanSavage, I think, had had a
conversation about it and he waslike, yeah, it's humiliating,
but that makes it good, becausehumiliation for some is a fetish
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.
And turn on.
Now I want to fast forward tomodern day, 2022, to queer ass
women sitting at the table andwe get to talk about it.
I want to dare to say perhapsit's not about humiliation,
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perhaps it's just about sharingbodies and fluids, like all of
sex is, and not limitingyourself.
Now, this is coming from awoman who's never had sperm on
her face.
Well, I mean, for the most part, outside of normal oral sex
activities.
But what do you?
What do you think, dana?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
I don't think it's
really about humiliation.
I'm going deep again.
I think it might be aboutvulnerability and letting
yourself be vulnerable.
We all don't like to bevulnerable, but when we do that
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it I don't know it kind ofcenters you and stuff like being
able to be vulnerable.
What's more vulnerable thanhaving someone come on your face
?
I don't see it as a humiliationthing.
I'm not in.
I don't have a humiliation,kink or degradation.
I actually do that and it'sgonna be a hard no.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
So can you?
Will you explain to ourlisteners a little bit about
degradation and humiliation?
I mean maybe some of you know,but degradation and humiliation
is a kink.
Can you explain a little bit?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Oh yeah, I know quite
a few people who that is a kink
.
So what that entails is you aresexually excited and turned on
by people making derogatoryremarks, having you do
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embarrassing things, you knowcalling you a dirty whore,
having you wear a dog collar andeat dog food out of a bowl it's
a little more extreme typething.
So some people that is a kinkand they get off on that.
(14:38):
They get off on being treatedthat way.
No, it's the opposite for me.
But I mean there's nothingwrong with it and that's why
yeah, we don't shame kinks likethat either.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
However that's, you
know that's a kink, it's not
mean strange conventionalvanilla sex.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
And I mean to a
person that's into that type of
kink when someone comes on themand comes in their face, maybe
they see that as degradation.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
Well, and it could be
done in an integrating way.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
Right, and what some
people have a hard time with
that kink is they think thatthere's no consent, because
basically your partner is doingthese things to you.
They're just doing them to you.
You might not like them, butthere is consent there.
You know they're gonna do thesethings and in the degr we're
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talking about degradation.
Right.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Well, there's consent
, because the you don't like
them but relationship.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
But they make you
horny.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, so, so, but the
thing is that what we're we're
trying to say is I wanted toclarify around degradation it's
kink, it's people, yet peopleget turned on by that that's.
But we're arguing that facialsaren't necessarily degradation.
I want to go back to reallyquickly.
I did find a study.
It's rudimentary, maybe at best, but I found a study.
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It was done by the.
Let's see the study.
I gotta pull it up here.
It was done by the people atBatgirls Bible.
I don't know if you're familiarwith it.
I don't know how I came uponthem, but I did and so they did
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a study.
That was a stir.
It was actually a survey of 740heterosexual men and women.
I'm a little confused about whythey chose only heterosexual
folks, but they did, and it wasthe only study I could find and
they asked them where they ortheir partner had most recently
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ejaculated, where they mostenjoyed coming and where they
believe the opposite sex loveand hates to have a jack you'll
it put upon them.
All of that is I don't reallygive a shit about.
What I gave a shit about waswhat a little bit of information
I was able to take away, whichwas that one in four of the
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people from that surveysometimes do facials ejaculate
on their partners face, so onein four people are doing that,
and men prefer giving facials3.3 times more than women prefer
receiving them.
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If that all is, that does thatis that you follow all that yeah
so.
And then 26% said facial comeshots are degrading.
Alright, well, we're in top,we're gonna go back into the
degrading element of up.
But here is what I found really, really interesting and I had
to read it a couple of timesbecause I read it to be the
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opposite at first.
Feminists were less likely tothink so.
Feminists were less likely toagree that facials come shots to
the face sperm upon your browwas degrading, which I'm like.
Okay, that makes a little bitmore sense to me.
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Now, how have I gone frompraying that someday men's sperm
would somehow or come it's notjust sperm, it's come, it's boo,
it's ejaculate would somehowturn into a puff of baby powder
that left me feeling fresh andclean afterwards to saying maybe
some come on the faces I'mpowering.
(18:49):
Well, first of all, I started tolet go some of my shit.
I met someone who I couldreally enjoy and I felt
respected by and we can getkinky.
And then I was listening tothis book I keep mentioning it
on this podcast called total sex, by Nina Hartley.
She was a porn star to a nurse,turn porn star, I don't know
sex advocate, sex positiveadvocate, and I was listening to
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her book and she made thiscomment and I thought that it
was really important that shewas not okay with people acting
like the fluids that came frommen's body meanings, you know
come ejaculate ejaculate wasdisgusting, like she wasn't okay
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with people acting likeejaculate on your face or
anywhere else was disgusting,and that the fluid itself was
disgusting and bad, any morethan she was okay with men.
Acting like when women'smenstruation or anything that
comes from you know, whetherit's you know, breast milk, you
know, after we've had a baby orwe're on our period, is
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disgusting, and it really wasjust a moment where the light
went off in my head.
You know I do have men in mylife.
I have a lot of issues with menand the patriarchy, for sure,
and living within a patriarchyand the patriarch keys hold and
control on the conversationabout sex.
But also I'm like, yeah, that'sreally fucked up, it's really.
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And it harkened back to the oneexperience most recent last
handful of years.
I had a man ask if he could comeupon my face and I was like nah
, no, no, like not unless we geta whole lot more serious, and
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he looked confused and we had alittle conversation that went
something like this he asked mewhy.
I thought what?
Why was so problem, problematicfor me?
And I'm like I think it'sdisrespect, I think it could be
an act of disrespect, it seemsrude and humiliating.
He's like why, why would youthink that there's nothing wrong
with my come?
I come isn't a bad thing?
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Like he was literally.
I don't want to say her, I don'tknow if he was hurt, but he was
insulted by it.
He's like my, my come isn't abad thing.
Why are you acting like it'sthis awful evil thing to have on
you but yet you'll fuck me, youknow?
So that was a little bit likein that moment of listening to
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her book and having theseconversations with my partner
and starting to be turned on bymy.
My partner with a penis isejaculated.
And then thinking back to thatconversation, I was like, huh,
I've been programmed.
Perhaps the idea that come onyour face is horrible, something
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that fucking Dr Ruth is willingto like.
Stand firm against that.
It's just so bad.
Perhaps that's part of theconditioning around the
patriarchal conditioning aroundsex shaming and the idea of
what's good and bad andacceptable and not acceptable in
bed.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
We're supposed to be
good, proper women, not porn
stars.
So most of the time when youthink of money shots, cheers to
the money shots.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Cheers to money shots
, as that, we're not drinking
unless we're cheers.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I mean.
What most people associate thespooge facial with is porn,
because that's the big moneyshot, that's.
And when it's on the face, ohman, and I will let you know.
That's like my favorite part.
I also read that and don't askme why, but I love a good porn
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that ends with a great moneyshot to the face.
I don't know why, I don't knowwhy I don't.
And it's always been that way.
Like it turns me on, okay, Istill gag a little when it
happens.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
when I see it happen,
we'll be right back.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
And like when it?
I'll mind you.
My, I have rules and pleasedon't get anything in my eyes,
but when there's like spoochdripping off someone's eyelashes
, oh man, that was the best.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
All right, see, I'm
just I don't know me.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
There might be
something wrong with me, and if
there is, that's okay, becauseno one's perfect.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
And that's the whole
point Right.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
But you know, have I
ever really admitted to people
about me liking that?
No, because.
Do you know the looks andcomments of it?
Not until now, when you decidedAll right.
Now everybody knows, I've comeout.
I've come out as being a fan ofcome shots to the face.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I still don't, and I
do watch porn a lot, even like
more since that, since I've beendoing that's 365 days of
orgasms and there's a lot ofmoney shots going on in that.
And I still like, sometimes like, because sometimes porn goes
overboard.
It's like you would think thatit just happens all the time.
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Sometimes I have to like turnit off.
I'm like all right, enoughenough, I don't get turned on by
it, but I'm definitely feelinglike I need to put a facial on
my sex bucket list to try it,because I have become super
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turned on by my partnersEjaculate and mostly just the
feel of it inside of me and thenI really enjoy like using it
afterwards to masturbate with aswe continue to have sex.
Because I am very fortunate andhave a partner who, like
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continues to have sex with melong after the ejaculation part
has ended, which is something Ineed.
I am someone who I like tocontinue to have sex after I've
had an orgasm.
I like to continue to have sexafter my partner has.
That's not where sex reallyends for me, and so this within
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this particular sexualrelationship, I realized, oh man
, maybe I do like it and it hasturned into.
I sometimes I ask can this be akink?
Can liking your partner's spermor it's not sperm?
I know that is not the correctterm.
(26:29):
I don't want to say ejaculate.
Does liking your partner's wad?
Is that a kink Sure, or is itjust like a normal thing that
someone would, of course, likebecause they're having sex with
someone that they love?
I mean, don't you think youlike?
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I would hope that if someoneloves me or is really into me,
they're into my come, and ifyou're not really into my come,
then maybe there's somethingabout me you don't like.
Wouldn't you feel that way?
Speaker 2 (27:02):
I mean, I think so
yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Who knew talking
about facials and men's come
would be so deep and complicated?
I mean, I would think I wouldthink that's good.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I'm sorry, I'm just
laughing.
Anyways, back on track.
So I yeah, I think that's agood point.
You know, when you areattracted to someone, you know
their pheromones get you goingand stuff, and so it makes sense
that their juices whether they,she's getting so excited over
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here.
She's like grabbing the mic,whether they're you know, I
think that would include theirjuices like their bodily fluids.
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Well, again, I'm
talking all hypothetically
because I have not had come inmy face.
But you know what, deanna, I'mdoing it right now and I am, I
am committing, I am committingto having a facial before the
end of this year, before 2023come will be put upon my face.
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I support that.
So, before the end of thispodcast, we're going to have a
plan in place.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Oh, you know, I don't
know about you, but sometimes
my male partner, you know,sometimes they're like where do
you want it?
Yeah, look at him and say myface, that is going to be in a
moment for both of you.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, yeah, so that's
a.
That's so.
That's how I introduce it.
He never asks me where I wantit.
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Well, if you know
he's close to coming, yeah, you
could just look at him with adead sexy look and say, come on
my face.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Oh, I think I'm going
to plan that perfectly.
I've got to really be preparedfor it mentally and emotionally.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Because that way it's
in your control.
I like that.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
All right, all right,
let's do wait, let's do a
cheers before we put this plantogether, and then we're
planning out my facial, allright, so let's talk about it.
Okay, now I know how to ask forit.
So for women out there, or men,because if you're a gay guy
listening, or a bi guy or a panguy or a non-binary person and
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you're like, maybe I want to trya facial too, fuck, if you're a
heterosexual guy and you'relike, well, maybe I want to try
this before I knock off, this isgoing to be a plan we can all
use or try together.
Right, yeah, we can do this.
Folks, I will say this.
I want to note a word ofcaution in advance.
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In my research and the deepresearch I did for all of us, I
did find out.
In fact, male ejaculate in theeye is a real bad deal.
It is made of something calledspermine Spermine, I believe.
I don't know if that's how it'spronounced.
It is what gives men'sejaculate that bleach-y scent
(30:16):
and it's a very alkaline.
And if it does actually getinto your eye, it is not only a
severe irritant, it can causeyour eye to swell, it can really
fuck up your eyes.
So it's no joke, you could wearsunglasses or do the sexy
school girl guy thing and keepyour glasses on, but if you do,
(30:39):
make sure your eyes are shut andyou're, you know.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, you should
always have your eyes shut.
So, and then if some gets onyour eye while it's shut, you
should immediately go and flushit, like go to a sink in.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yeah, don't open your
eye again, and although I have
noticed those porn stars arereally good at making like
sweeping it away, but that'stheir job.
They're very good at it.
So caution, caution.
Also, if you're going to comeon someone's face, don't like,
use some fucking self-controland don't go for the eyes.
(31:15):
There's plenty of space goingon there.
You can avoid the eyes.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
So that was a side
note, and it's always good,
whether you're planning on afacial or not.
I think it's always good tohave a towel close by when
you're engaging, or even likebaby wipes just under the bed.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
So, which brings me
to what I am very curious about.
How do you pull off theaftermath of the facial and keep
it sexy, like now?
You are stuck with cum on yourface.
Presumably your partner isabove you with a very quickly
(31:56):
deflating cock.
You know, one of you isprobably going into your
refractory period.
How do you keep?
How do you go from you knowbaby cum on my face to you know,
not an awkward end that makesyou go.
Well, that feels just weird.
Now I've got to get this off myface.
(32:17):
Any tips?
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Well, I mean, there's
a lot you could do.
You could gently swoop it andingest it.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Oh, okay, that that
would not be for the first
facial I have.
For the first facial I don't.
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Speaker 2 (33:18):
Oh, I'm not ready for
that.
You can use it as lube that,that.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
So you just take it
off your face and then you put
it Downtown.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
give yourself a
little rub, rub and keep going
All right.
I mean because it is alubricant.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
It is a lubricant and
, yes, some of the ejaculate I'm
using it now.
This is it.
This is it, guys.
I'm now using the properfucking words for things like
cum and sperm, spoo, spooch, wad.
Yeah, so there is still goingto be some wad on your face, but
(34:02):
here is the good news because,again, as I was like googling
terms that I thought would bethe best search terms, it's
actually much more difficult tolook up this stuff and not just
get to Thornhub than you think.
What I found is only I think,2020, 2021 sperm.
They weren't calling it sperm,I'm sorry.
(34:27):
Were they Sperm facials.
Is that what I said?
That they were?
Speaker 2 (34:31):
called?
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Sperm facials.
Wait, hold on Alexa.
Were sperm facials a beautycraze?
Here's something I found on theweb, according to
goodhousekeepingcom.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
According to
researchers using sperm and
facial treatments.
I'm like stop.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
So, according to the
research I did and fuck you guys
good housekeeping wrote aboutthis.
I shit you not.
Good fucking housekeeping wrotean article about sperm facials,
saying that they are good foryou and leave your skin
refreshed and blemish free.
(35:16):
True story.
Go look it up yourself.
If everything goes well, thewad doesn't end up in your eyes
or anywhere that you need toimmediately really remove it
from you.
Just use your hand to sweepaway the maybe excess.
You leave a nice shiny layerstill wherever it fell.
(35:40):
It cleanses your skin, whileyou then use the ejaculate as a
loop and continue to get off.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Look at that.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Goddamn, that's a
plan.
Yep Fucking A.
Cheers to that.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Can I also get a
cheers to good housekeeping.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
To good housekeeping.
Wow, well, guys, I wish I couldjust redirect you to
sheexplorerslifecom for thatfucking shit.
But miss the craze, because Ialso think there was a backlash
that people were like that's nottrue.
But whatever, who cares?
(36:22):
So fuck, we put together a planfor everyone's first second,
maybe all the facials that youever get.
Absolutely no, I would say.
Intermediate level facial is,as Deanna, her first approach,
(36:44):
which is putting it oh, theneating it.
I've got to tell you guys,something.
I do know that, look, I do.
I give oral sex.
I don't mind swallowing.
I'm working to overcome my cumphobia, but I definitely
(37:06):
struggle with after it's out ofthe human.
I'm not like a person whoreally wants to go and lap it up
.
I see it in the porn.
I know that everyday people dothis from conversations with my
girlfriends.
But, deanna, you don't have thesame a person, I'm assuming.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
No, I don't.
I do know that.
I recommend that you know theperson rather well, so you know
what they've been eating lately.
That's a good part of theconversation, Because I will
debate you all day, every day,if you try to tell me that diet
(38:01):
does not affect the taste,because it does affect the taste
.
If they have been having a lotof red meat it's going to be
very bitter.
They have a lot of fruit intheir diet.
It has a sweeter taste.
It can be more salty if friedfood.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Really oh crap, yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
So I've done an
unofficial study where I paid
attention to these thingsbecause I'd heard the debate.
People would say no, it's notaffected by diet.
Yes, it is affected.
So me being a curious mind thatI've always been, I just
decided to observe some things,and so I paid attention to what
(38:52):
my partner's nutrition was andwhat their gum tasted like, and
then I was like oh, definitelywhat they're eating does affect
it.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
I've always wondered
because, like I said, so we made
that decision.
I've definitely been withpartners where the ascent and
taste of their ejaculate reallygrossed me out.
And so I was like I can't, Ican't all be just chemistry with
(39:27):
someone.
I can't just be that.
I'm really into my currentpartner and suddenly their
spooge is like this is amazing,it doesn't bother me at all.
And look, saying it doesn'tbother me and that it even turns
me on sometime is like coming aserious long way from where I
was.
My aversion, my real, my veryreal aversion to it, so that
(39:54):
would ring true.
Like I have to imagine thatsome of the things that I found
gross about it with pastpartners has to be, you know,
diet.
And I think it was Abby and Idid the Felicio how to give a
good blow job podcast and inthat podcast I remember her
bringing up the diet of partnersand how she will not swallow
(40:18):
and it's because people don'ttake good care of themselves and
eat shit and it tastes likeshit and she's not putting that
in her body and so I kind oflike logged that in my head and
it's funny that you now bring itup.
There's two guests, two femaleguests, who have brought up diet
and the taste of men'sejaculate.
(40:39):
So hey guys, if you have neededa reason to work on your diet,
get healthy, work out, take careof yourself, take better care
of yourself you got one.
You got one.
You want women to want to like.
Gobble up your cum to lick youlike an ice cream cone in June
and bake for more.
(41:00):
Pay attention to your diet.
Take care of yourself.
Eat some fruit, veggies.
Stay away from all that redmeat grease.
Some people like it salty, Idon't know.
So that is our advice and weare sticking to it.
Cheers Okay, so you don't wantfacials?
You don't want facials, butyour person with a penis, your
(41:25):
guy, needs somewhere to put hiscum and let's say, you can't put
it in you because you don'twant to get pregnant or whatever
your reason is.
Deanna and I took some timetogether to look at, to look up
different sex acts that includewhere men can ejaculate, and we
(41:47):
were fascinated.
We were fascinated by theoptions.
So we're going to share somewith you because we don't want
you to feel like you've listenedto this podcast this far and
you're like I'm a feminist andI'm just not like I get it.
Everyone might shame anyone fortheir spooge, but I still don't
(42:09):
want it on my face.
Or if you're not a feminist andyou're like you dirty, dirty
girls, gross, but deep downyou're like so what do I have
them do.
That's still kind of hot.
We have options for you becausewe love all of you, so we came
up with a cum shot sex, a cumshot sex act list.
(42:33):
Now, most of these are fine,some of them not so much, so
we're going to quickly discussthem.
I'm going to let you start off,deanna.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
What's number one?
Well, actually it's not firston the list.
But for those feminists outthere, if you want to give it
back to the patriarchy, thespitting dragon is for you.
This is where you give head andthey ejaculate in your mouth
(43:11):
and you spit it back on them.
That's amazing, yeah.
So you want to give it to theman?
There you go.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
You just spat.
You know what I think?
I have a spitting dragon story.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
I didn't realize it
was on.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
Oh, I was in college.
So this is where consent comesinto play and maybe where guys
are getting a bad rap.
It was college.
I was at a party.
I hadn't met this guy, I hadn'tmet him over the years.
We had hung out and talked.
He was very, very hot.
(43:50):
We hooked up at the party, notbeing sex, but we were like oh,
hey, cutie, hey cutie, and we'regoing to go get it on in some
fashion.
I had no intention of havingsex with him, but I definitely
wanted to mess around with him.
So we walked to a park and atthe park I ended up going down
on him under the stars.
It seemed sexy and exciting andI sat him on the way down.
(44:15):
I sat in some way or other likedon't come.
And this sexy, interesting guyturned out his hippie, turned
out to be kind of a dick andcame anyways, and I was so
fucking pissed I managed to holdit in my mouth long enough to
(44:35):
crawl up and spit it right onhis face.
Nice.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
I mean Spitting
dragon.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
That is what I was
kind of right.
Yeah, I do notice in the pornthough that's a thing where men
come on women in their mouthsand then they do spit it out in
it.
It turns people on.
So I think maybe seeing thecome come out of a woman's mouth
can also be a fun, sexy thing.
I was very angry and it was anempowering thing.
(45:05):
I was once a spitting dragon.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Perfect.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
And I feel good about
it.
You should All right.
So number two well, the creampie, which seems very basic to
me.
I feel like this description ofit doesn't do it justice, but
the one that I, because I'm alittle bit confused about the
cream pie, I'm going to behonest with you.
It sounds like it's just likecoming in a woman and then
(45:30):
watching it come out of hervagina, or?
But is that correct accordingto what you understand, Deanna?
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Um, so, I've heard
that, but I've also heard a
cream pie is when, uh shh, theshe's come in and someone eats
her out, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
Oh, yeah, yeah, maybe
that's the other part of it I
left out.
So, oh, that would make sense.
That makes it more interesting.
But I have, I've seen in pornwhere it's just, or you know
more than one person comes underher and then they are in awe of
it coming out.
So there you go, folks.
(46:15):
You can come in a woman if sheallows you to, if you have no
STIs, if you are a trustedpartner.
I'm not going to do the STItalk with you guys.
I'm going to assume you allknow to do your homework ahead
of time, and then you can eitherstare it as it comes out in awe
or treat it as though it were acream pie, which is a dessert.
(46:37):
Your turn.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Let's just go with
the good old fashioned pearl
necklace.
So for those of you who mayhave never heard of this term,
it's a very popular one, andthat is when you come on a
person's neck and it's like atthe base of the neck and they're
(47:03):
laying down and they come kindof parts and rolls to the back
of their neck.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Thus the pearl
necklace If the come behaves
properly.
Otherwise you just have a bunchof spoo on your neck, but we
pretend it looks like a pearlnecklace and this is perfect for
the pearl clutches out therewho are afraid of the facial.
Start with the pearl necklaceand then, you know, maybe every
once in a while he loses control, you get a little on your chin
(47:32):
and you can claim the status ofa wild and godly woman and say
you got your facial.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
The pearl necklace is
the gateway.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
come shot it totally
is it totally is All right.
The next one I don't.
This is beyond my ability rightnow and again, I'm not going to
say I'm not going to judge it,I'm not ready for it.
Felching, felching, felching iscoming in a butt, okay.
(48:13):
So look, first of all, anyonewho's been listening this far
and just can't handle too muchmore.
Now is a good time to like fastforward.
But if not, stay with me.
It's when someone comes insomeone's ass and then, I
believe, licks and sucks it out.
Deanna just gagged and cringedover there.
(48:34):
So I feel better about my ownaversion to this one.
I don't know, but you knowwe're all into some stuff and
I'm not judging you.
If you're out there and you'rea felt sure, hey, I want you to
know I accept you.
But can you please email me atannette at Shakespeare's lifecom
, because I want to understand.
I want to understand you, Iwant to talk to you.
(48:56):
I might even interview you,annette, at Shakespeare's
lifecom.
Please contact me immediately.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
So when you graduated
to a facial, there's a thing
called the turkey shot.
Speaker 1 (49:11):
I would call this
intermediate or advanced.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
Definitely Facial,
and so actually, this is more
for our male listeners orlisteners with penises, because
you play a key part in this one.
You have a role.
You have a role to Acute.
So when you, when there isE-Jack, you lit on around the
(49:36):
person's mouth and it rolls downunder their chin.
The ejaculator then goes gobblegobble.
Speaker 1 (49:49):
And that is called a
turkey shot.
A turkey shot, a turkey shot.
So did you catch that?
You eject.
No, maybe it's not.
Do they eject in the mouth,even or around the mouth?
Speaker 2 (49:59):
I just said, when the
cum drips down the chin and so
it comes under the chin, thengobble.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
You say gobble gobble
as a command.
Gobble it up, baby.
Gobble gobble.
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Cheers.
So maybe this Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2 (50:59):
People should
celebrate with a turkey shot.
Speaker 1 (51:03):
I see it as kind of a
fall, kind of activity,
seasonal.
I feel like it has a seasonalfeel to it.
Definitely, yeah for sure.
So turkey shot this fall.
It is not on my sex bucket listas of yet, so we only have one
(51:24):
more left.
No we have two.
I'm going to go for thesnowball, the snowball, the
snowball.
It can be done any time of year, but especially during the
winter months.
So, guys, your girl is goingdown on you, you come in her
(51:45):
mouth and then she holds it inthere and she comes up and you
French kiss, and you can pass itback and forth, back and forth,
back and forth, and as you passit back and forth it will
actually increase in size andfluidity.
I should have put a warning onthat one ahead of time.
I just had to take a moment,but yeah, I've seen that this
(52:07):
also, I think, in groupactivities sometimes happens, or
in threesomes where then?
the other.
You know, maybe not the personwho ejaculated, but the other
two people involved will pass itback and forth.
I'm Audi.
That's not happening for me,Maybe ever.
Speaker 2 (52:24):
I don't see I don't
see snowballing in my future
either, but doesn't mean there'sanything wrong with it.
Speaker 1 (52:33):
No, not shaming you
Not shaming you, really trying
not to shame you.
Yeah, now people are into whatthey're into.
And finally, the boo cocky.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
So this is in a
multiple partner sex act or a
gang mate, uh huh, where thereis multiple people ejaculating
upon an individual.
That is some boo cocky.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
That's some boo cocky
.
I really like the word.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
I love the word boo
cocky, I do too.
Speaker 1 (53:09):
I wonder how that
came to be a word for that act.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
I don't know.
You know thinking about blowingyour wad.
Now I almost kind of want toresearch these slang terms and
where they originated from.
We will do a whole podcast onthat.
We can do a follow up podcast.
Yeah, we're going to researchthese.
Speaker 1 (53:29):
I mean I'm not
promising it, it sounds like a
good idea in this moment, but Imean, if we can't find anything,
then we won't do a follow up,but if we do find, we definitely
could do a what do you call it?
A sort of a dictionaryterminology, dictionary,
dictionary terminology, sexterminology, follow up?
(53:51):
Oh, I like that idea.
Yeah, so, guys, look, I feellike we've covered quite a bit.
Now I would love to hear fromwomen about how you feel about
men's come more women.
I mean, like I've talked to alot of girlfriends about this.
(54:12):
It seems to be like there's awide variety of feelings and
assumptions about, like, howwomen react to the whole thing
and I think, probably whatyou've gotten a little sample of
between.
I mean, deanna and I were agood duo for this podcast,
because Deanna is very comepositive and I am a recovering
(54:37):
come rebelled person, so, and Ido think that that covers sort
of the extremes of how we canall feel about it.
I think the things that arereally important in my opinion
and I'd love to hear yours isthat there's consent, not just
consent ahead of time, but likea conversation which should go
(54:59):
along with your conversationabout STI's being safe and what
kind of fluid exchange ispossible within your
relationship.
But also like what do you likeand how do you feel about this
and how can I make you feel morecomfortable?
Right?
Speaker 2 (55:15):
Yeah, definitely.
And I think another thingthat's really important is you
talked about that study from thebad girl Bible and it said one
in four which I think I wannaassume that it was an anonymous
survey and I think there's morepeople out there who like it but
(55:42):
like the come shot, like thecome shot anywhere, but maybe
are quiet about it.
And so I really encouragepeople not to have shame in
liking it.
There's nothing wrong, it isnormal.
Don't listen to Dr Ruth.
She's an old woman, veryconservative.
(56:03):
It is okay to like it.
There is no shame in getting aface shot.
There's no shame in felting.
It might not be for everybody,but I really wanna encourage
people not to be shamed anymoreby their feelings and their
liking of come activities.
Speaker 1 (56:26):
Right.
I think that what struck mewhen I was looking up articles
for this podcast and I kind ofwent into it laughing a little
bit.
I'm thinking maybe it's a sillytopic, but the more that I read
or mainstream articles about it, the more I was like, hmm, it
really bothers me that this acthas been turned into something
(56:51):
dirty.
And then people say, oh, itonly happens in porn.
And even more than that, what Isaw was you know a lot of quote
sex experts saying porn has,like, convinced people they have
to do this.
I would like to challenge theidea that porn is convincing
anyone to do anything.
I would like to say that pornis a reflection of the things
(57:15):
that we want to do deep down.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
Or that we are doing
and not talking about.
Speaker 1 (57:21):
And not talking about
right and that we're enjoying,
like that's the fact.
Yeah, it's not a fact, Ihaven't proven it, but I believe
porn is that reflection and itgets blown out, sometimes blown
out of, like movies do rightMovies take most cinematic
(57:42):
experiences or based on somelittle small semblance of truth.
But yeah, it's okay to like orbe interested or want to try
these things.
It's nobody else's businessunless you decide to like, have
a podcast on it or write aboutit or put it out there.
So we're stripping the shamefrom it.
(58:02):
Sorry, if I gagged over yourspecific kink, it's just me.
It's just my own opinion orpersonally, and most likely, if
I gagged, that means I haven'tdone it.
So what is my opinion matter?
Speaker 2 (58:16):
right.
Speaker 1 (58:16):
Right.
So, deanna, this was a fun one.
Speaker 2 (58:21):
It was.
It was a good one.
Speaker 1 (58:22):
I feel like I've
learned a lot.
Speaker 2 (58:24):
Yeah, educational.
Speaker 1 (58:26):
Yeah, so we're gonna
have to have you back soon,
because I would love to comeback soon, nice.
Ah nice, all right guys.
So a couple things I wanna putout there real quickly before we
move on.
I launched.
I launched at the YouTubechannel.
(58:47):
It's not got a lot on it yet,but there are videos coming.
I'm covering a whole bunch ofsex toys, doing some reviews.
I am going to be covering somebook reviews.
I've been reading some coolbooks.
I am going to be sharing sometips and tricks that I've been
learning through my research andI am considering doing some
(59:13):
outtakes from the podcast,meaning things we run through
the podcast and a lot of reallygood information comes out, but
for listeners it's not alwayseasy to go back to, so I'm
looking at translating thoseinto videos, short like little
three to five minute videos thatsum up the highlights from the
(59:34):
podcast, and also in articles.
So head over toSheExploresLifecom.
We're adding new articles tothat all of the time with great
tips, information, book reviews,toy reviews.
We've got some fun columnsgoing up by some incredible
(59:55):
women who are out there on theirown groundbreaking sexual
adventures, so that's prettyexciting too.
If you have questions, thoughts,things you'd like to contribute
, I will be doing some miniepisodes that answer questions
that are being sent in to me.
(01:00:17):
I've already gotten somequestions sent in to me.
I wanna encourage both men andwomen to send thoughts and
questions into me.
Things we've talked about thatyou need clarification on.
Also, I would like, if you havea topic you want me to discuss,
send it my way.
Anything like that, send it toAnnetteAnneette at
(01:00:40):
SheExploresLifecom.
You can also find us atlockerroomtalkpodcastcom,
sheexploreslifecom and on socialmedia.
I can cover it.
Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
I think you did.
Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
All right, so, deanna
, until next time, cheers,
cheers.
See you in the locker roomproven entries in the Series.