January 9, 2025 • 34 mins
Georgia Love has been criticised for wasting emergency services time, after calling 911 to help her find her missing phone. The former Bachelorette lost her iPhone after accidentally leaving it in an Uber in Manhattan, during her holiday to New York.
Meghan Markle has marked 2025 as the year of her comeback. After a five-year social media hiatus, the Duchess of Sussex returned to Instagram on New Year’s Day with a bang, unveiling her plans to get back to her lifestyle blogging roots.
AND, another of our influencer 2025 predictions has already come true…. We dissect the strategy behind Gold Coast influencer Sophie’ Jayne Miller’s latest matcha brand.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Sophie Tauber and coming up on today's show, Georgia Love
calls emergency services over her lost phone, Megan Markle's controversial rebrand,
and our New Friday Debrief. But first, I don't mean
to brag, but in the space of a week, another
(00:24):
one of our twenty twenty five predictions has already come true.
I actually gassed when I saw this, and I sent
it directly to you, Amy, because I want to give
you props you came up with this one. Yeah. So,
Queensland based influencer Sophie Jane Miller has followed in the
footsteps of Cartia Milan and Ashton Wood and launched, as
we predicted, her own matcha powder called Matcha Lane. And
(00:45):
I'm going to say I pulled that prediction out of
my absolute ass. There have been no signs other than
the fact that Sophie Jane Miller loves Matcha that she
would actually start her own business. She has made Matcha
her own personal brand. She makes it always on a
YouTube channel. She's always visiting a local cafe in Queensland
where they serve up her favorite match, ye o bagel
in Queens. I must be really kicking themselves. Sophie's not
(01:06):
going to be visiting there every day. Well. She and
her influencer bestie Georgia Richards have even named a YouTube
series Match of Therapy, so it is clear that she
loves Matcher and the strategy behind her announcement was quite
interesting because most influencers, if they're starting a new business,
they would do an announcement post saying this is my startup,
this is how I've done it, but she simply shared
(01:27):
an instructional video showing how she makes her morning match it.
She didn't even specify that the powder she was using
was her own. She simply wrote in the caption, how
I make the most delicious ice Matcher and tagged the
new brand. Let's throw to the real.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Your most perfect.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Far the most important way is that you.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Have a high quality. Is a ceremonial grade about three
scoops depending.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, I didn't even realize it was her own brand.
I only showed interest in the post because Amy, you
had made that prediction and I was like, oh, she's
teamed up with another company, and then when I clicked
on it, I was like, what, I actually think this
is really clever marketing because I think a lot of
people would actually switch off if they saw some video
of her announcing, oh, this is my matcher, but a
lot of people must organically be asking her, hey, where
(02:20):
do you actually get your matcher from? And by sharing
this instructional video, it's a really clever way to be like, well,
this is the one I use, and it just so
happens to be my brand. Yeah, it's so true. It
sort of reminds me of when Talia Scines used to
sprook third Fixes drink bottle and I never knew that
it was her boyfriend Mitch Third's brand. I thought, wow,
that drink bottle is really cool. She must genuinely love it,
(02:41):
She's always got it. And that's how it comes across
with this match a post. You're like, this must be
the matcher that she has been using all the time
in her YouTube videos, But it just turns out no,
it's one that she is spooking. Yeah. Well, all of
Sophie's influencer best is were quick to congratulate her in
the comment section, So Georgia Richards wrote yes, she has
officially a while Rachel Catherine wrote Maucha Laine might just
(03:03):
convert me into a much a drinker, whilst her manager,
laying from Posey Creative wrote so proud of you. It's
quite interesting because a few months ago we discussed how
Cartie Milan and also ashton Wood's match A brand shut
down and it's still unclear if this was because sales
were down, because this has become a very oversaturated market. See.
I thought it was obviously down to their friendship buster
(03:24):
up because I only had just launched the brand. But
if this brand was successful, would they then not go
and on sell it onto someone else and say, oh,
we've got this client base. It would be much money.
Don't easy just shut it down? Yeah? And I had
only just started, so they couldn't really go to another
company and say, oh, here's the projections of how much
this is going to earn blah blah blah. I've also
noticed in recent times there's been a lot of debate
(03:46):
around the ethics of white people profiting off selling a
traditional Japanese drink like Matcher. So far, the reaction, though,
has been pretty good. Her very loyal follower base seemed
very excited that she's brought out her own brand. I
think because it aligns with her because she's always talking
about Matcher. Her Instagram account so far has sixteen hundred followers,
(04:07):
and when you have a look at the website, it's
quite interesting because you discovered that she is running this
business alongside her dad, Cam, who seems to be quite
a successful businessman now. On the new brand's website, it
says the father and daughter duo share a love for
Matcher and after about a year of trying to find
the best tasting matcher here in Australia, they came up
short and decided to go straight to the source and
(04:28):
bring the good stuff here. When I read on their
website that they have sourced this matcher from Japan, I
initially thought, well, that's fantastic that they're actually supporting Japanese
manufacturing of Matcher. But that I also thought is at
the time that Sophie recently went to Japan, because just
last month she was in Japan for a jet Star
influencer trip. Yeah, was surely that would have been a
(04:49):
bit too much of a quick turnaround. It didn't seem
like they had much of an opportunity because on the
website it says that they visited farms in Japan to
source the best matcher. We must be heard dad doing
it then, because we've only seen on Sophie's vlogs last
year her going to Japan once. Well, that being said,
this could have been a very quick turnaround because unfortunately
(05:10):
there appears to be a spelling error on the packaging,
so instead of saying how to make, it says hot
to make. I felt bad for her because when you're
you've got to startup business, you want everything to be perfect.
So maybe they just wanted to get it out there
with the start of the new year. You've got a laugh,
don't yeah, situate just put a little sticker over the
top or something. I was quite surprised to see how
expensive this much actually is. So thirty five dollars for
(05:33):
a thirty grand bag. Yeah, when you compare it to
other brands like Trepeka, who sells match A tea for
twenty nine dollars, you get two hundred grams. It is
slightly different because that is Matcha tea. I know that
Sophie is selling a ceremonial grade matcher, which I think
is a little bit more expensive. But I had another
look at a brand who sells ceremonial grade leaves and
(05:54):
they sell a fifty grand bag for eighteen dollars, so
hers is quite costly. I think you're paying for the
fat that it's got her name and branding on it.
A lot of people are buying it because she put
up an Instagram story and her ticket machine for sales
was just going off. Can I say, Amy, though, I
think that your prediction was slightly wrong because weren't you
predicting that she would bring out a matched tea with
(06:15):
Georgie Stevenson's brand Naked Harvest.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I think I predicted that she'd bring out her own line,
and Kate, you suggested perhaps Naked Harvest because her friend
Georgia Richards, of course had her brand with Naked Heart.
What if she spoke to her manager and they both
worked out that she could be making far more money
by launching her own match a brand than doing it
with Naked Harvest. Looking at maybe the figures that Georgia
Richard's got. This isn't her first business, though, so she
(06:39):
started out selling an e book and that was really successful,
and then she's also had her own drink bottle company
and done a few other things, so maybe this is
going to be the one that really takes off for her.
The timing of the release I think is really good.
Being the new year, people are wanting to jump onto
year knew me. I want to become like a match
a girly. The only thing I find interesting is there's
(06:59):
been no men off her cookbook, which she was heavily
promoting last year, that she was taking photos for it
and all that. I d say, there had been a
bit of a whole in production. I think something with
the printer. I'm also surprised that she didn't launch a
YouTube video in conjunction with the launch of her new
brand to go inside. Yet Well, we're yet to see
a YouTube video from Sophie for this year. I think
(07:21):
she's going to launch with the news of the Matcher brand. See.
I just think it will be integrated into one of
her weekly vlogs. I think that she's really trying to
make it feel organic and not a hard sale.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
You'll often hear people say, well, you're helping women find
their voices, and I fundamentally disagree with that, because women
don't need to find a voice. They have a voice,
they need to feel empowered to use it, and people
need to be encouraged to listen.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Megan Mirkal has marked twenty twenty five as the year
of her comeback. After a five year social media hiatus,
The Duchess of Sussex returned to Instagram on New Year's
Day with a bang, unveiling her plans to get back
to her lifestyle blogging routes. Yes, and this social media
return has been years in the making, so she was
set to make a comeback in twenty twenty two to
(08:05):
coincide with the launch of her podcast Archetypes, and she
went as far as securing the handle at Meghan and
an interview with The Cut, she said that she was
getting back on Instagram. Is that because she was just
like just share, you know what I mean, Like just Meghan,
We'll drop the Meghan Markele despite the fact that she
is keeping the Duchess of Sussex in her title. Yeah.
I suppose it's an awkward one because everyone knows her
(08:27):
as Meghan Markle, but since getting married, she kind of
doesn't have a last name. Can you imagine Meghan Train
and she's like, fuck me. I'm also Meghan and I'm famous. Yeah,
I want to know who she bought the handle off
as well, because she clearly had to acquire it somehow. Now,
despite being ready to launch the account, she decided last
minute that she wasn't going to and at SAP dormant
for the last couple of years. Now, that all changed
on New Year's Day, So the account's profile picture of
(08:50):
a pink flower suddenly changed to a black and white
picture of Meghan. Yeah, wasn't there a lot of mystery
surrounding that Instagram account because people saw the Meghan account
pop up, but no one knew if it was actually
Megan Markle because she did put up that strange display picture. Yeah, well,
she had dropped a lot of clues as I was
saying before that she was launching this account. Then the
account at Meghan popped up, but it did have this
(09:12):
strange profile picture. I'm super confused because I went to
follow it at the time when there was a lot
of speculation or is this Megan? But I had to
refollow come New Year's Days. I don't know what happened there.
The account did have one hundred thousand followers when it
wasn't confirmed to be hers and then as at the
time of recording, it's got one point three million. So
obviously the word got out there that this was the
(09:32):
real Megan. So on New Year's Day she uploaded a
video of her frolicking on the beach and she wrote
twenty twenty five in the sand. Now word has it
that Prince Harry actually filmed the video. He did a
good job, but it kind of looked like one of
those videos in a crime show that depicts the wife
who's been murdered. Yes, it did remind me of that. Yeah,
(09:54):
I love her and for some reason I couldn't help
but crtings really hard at that video. It just seemed
a bit try well. Someone said it was giving Pinterest
twenty twelve vibes, And to be fair, Meghan has been
off social media for a long time, so she actually
deactivated her personal Instagram account seven years ago when she
got engaged to Prince Harry. They did have their Sussex
(10:16):
Royal account, but again that's laid dormant for the last
five years. When they left. The Royal family actually surprised
that Meghan hasn't got more followers, because if you compare
her number of followers to Kate and Wills. They've got
sixteen point eight million, but they've had like fifteen years
to build it that She's had it for a couple
of days. They've had their account for fifteen. Oh, actually
they probably have considering how long they've been married. Yeah,
(10:38):
I mean a million's pretty good for only a week
into the new year. I think that is going to
grow and grow from there. One thing that stood out
to me was this comeback video wasn't actually specifically shot
for Instagram. It was shot in a landscape mode, so
it didn't really suit reels. Yeah, that's one thing I
can't stand when people do post those landscape videos. You're like, fuck,
it's so much better as a reel. It didn't stop
(11:00):
the traction because it did get eight million views. Now,
the real reason for Megan's social media return became apparent
the following day, and this is when she dropped the
trailer for her new Netflix lifestyle show called With Love
Meghan and this is going to start airing on the
sixteenth of January, a day before Molly Bay's documentary set
(11:20):
to air on Prime Yes, I am so excited to
watch both of these. So the teaser was set to
the song Do You Believe In Magic? And it showed
Megan in the kitchen, decorating cakes, making for carture, arranging flowers,
and even collecting honey in a beekeeper suit. It was
really giving David Beckham vibes from his doco. Yeah, here's
(11:40):
a little taste of the promo, Let's go.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I have always loved taking something pretty ordinary and elevating it,
surprising people with moments that let them know I was
really thinking of them.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
What this is probably one of the most glamorous summons
of my life.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
It's I'm going to share some little tips and tricks.
I see what color I gravitate to, and everything goes
from there. And how you can incorporate these practices every day.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
That's what you want.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
You want that sheep and texture, Tom, This is about
connecting with friends. I love that we're doing this together
for the first time, making new friends.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
That is so good. Now I seem to be in
the minority because I got really excited when I saw
the trailer. Megan was really reminding me a lot of
Nigella Laws and this type of show is something that
I would really enjoy watching. I was one of the
people who was excited too, but that's because I am
a Megan fan. The only thing that disappointed me a
little bit was the appearance of all of these celebrities,
(12:51):
because I knew instantly that that was going to cop
criticism from people. People are going to act like this
is quite an elitist program. It just reminded me of
her podcast, because the podcast archetype. She invited all of
her A list superstar friends on to talk about issues
that are apparently related to the common person, and people didn't
(13:11):
find it relatable. People found it a bit pukeheathy. Yeah, again,
I am a Megan fan. But the only thing is
everything she does and it just seems so American, Like
she is American. Again, she's American, but I think that
that's what the British don't like about her. Their critics
were quick to slam Meghan's show, so it was labeled dull.
She was labeled entitled, tone deaf and tasteless. In the
(13:34):
midst of a cost of living crisis that seems to
be something that everyone's sort of the go to, isn't
It's like, how discussing it's the cost of living crisis
and that she's there, she is making cakes for a
celebrity friend. I think that's a bit of a shit
Megan reaction. Yeah, Well, Meghan McCain, who was the daughter
of former Republican Senator John McCain. She shared an absolutely
(13:55):
scathing response to the trailer on x SO. She wrote,
there have been two terror attacks in two days, major
wars raging, and Americans can't pay for groceries. We are
a country in rage, uncertainty, and intensity right now. This
is why the world doesn't like you. Nothing else, just
completely and utterly tone death to the moment. But don't
we want to escape all of that by watching a
(14:16):
charming show of someone cooking up a storm in the
kitchen and using flowers to sprinkle over their cereal. Like
this is escapism at its best. But I just think
it's sad that this woman, who has been so heavily
criticized and I think unfairly criticized by the media and
by the public, all she does is release a feel
good cooking show. They've probably done it strategically because they've thought, well,
(14:38):
we can't really have Megan talking about women's rights. We
can't have this because this is going to piss people off.
They've literally just released a feel good show and everyone's like,
fuck you are. Oh it comes off the back of
Harry releasing a documentary show about Polo, which they were
trying to go for the vibe of Survive to Drive
or F one or whatever those racing shows are called,
and it really missed the mark. People said that this
(14:59):
show was boring. There was a lot of orchestrated drama.
He didn't appear in it, which they think he made.
He popped that once, but he wasn't a character in it,
and there was a lot of speculation and questions around, well,
can they sell something that they're not in. In this case,
she is in this and I think that it is
a case of tall poppy syndrome. People want to drag
(15:19):
her down. There were never going to be rave reviews
about this show, and I think that Meghan's PR team
would know this, and they're hoping that everyone comes in
with such low expectations that when the show comes out,
everyone's like, oh, it actually wasn't too bad. Well, this
is the thing, And I think a lot of these
commentators are actually showing how out of date they are,
because there was a lot of conversation around the fact
(15:40):
that they can't believe that Meghan has gone through so
much and then wants to relaunch herself as an influencer.
I mean, ever since Meghan found fame on suits, she
has been interested in being an influencer in the lifestyle space.
She had a lifestyle vlog called The Tig and she
also posted heaps of aspirational photos on Instagram. This is
very Meghan. I think this shows the snobbery around the
(16:02):
role of an influence and also people not understanding the
role of an influencer. You don't have to be universally
liked to be an influence. Also very clever, but because
in twenty twenty four we saw this rise of tid
wives and influencers like Nara Smith making cooking look very
glamorous and an activity that a lot of a lot
of women wanted to do. We were talking about in
(16:22):
our subs episode, how on TikTok dinner parties are all
the craze. People want to have a beautiful home to
welcome people into. They want to be making their own food,
they want to be growing their own produce. It's really
been glamorized. When you talk about influencers, I more think
of Megan as being like a Martha Stewart, like a
new Martha Stewart, and she was touted as one of
(16:42):
the first influencers, especially in American culture. It's kind of
like she doesn't want to be some tacky influencer who's sprooking,
teeth whitening, but she wants to be a big symbol
for people out there. And that's why I think people
just look at the term influencer and they underrate it.
They I don't understand how powerful the influencer industry is.
(17:03):
And it's just this lack of understanding about this modern
marketing tactic, particularly when you think about hate following, because
people are saying, no one is going to watch this show,
it's terrible, And the numbers really speak for themselves because
the trailer has been viewed over six million times on
Megan's Instagram and a million on YouTube. And to be
successful as an influencer, you only need a portion of
(17:23):
your audience to actually like you, and considering she's already
got one point two million followers on Instagram, they're going
to be enough people to buy products from her. Going
back to this point about how Meghan Markel apparently wants
to be an influencer. I reject that she wants to
be a celebrity. She wants to be a cult like
celebrity like Oprah. She doesn't want to sit spooking cheap
(17:44):
tacky products like teeth whitening. She wants to have celebrity status.
And I also think the reason she doesn't want to
be an influencer is because most influencers actually have to
open up about their private life. Yes, they add a
lot of their dirty laundry about the royal family, but
she doesn't want to go into her marriage struggles or
her friendship breakdoesn't mean at the moment there is a
lot of speculation and rumors that she and Harry are
(18:07):
supposedly divorced and not together, which is why there are
a lot of eyeballs on this teaser because people like,
is Prince Harry going to be in it? He wasn't
in there for a few seconds, but he wasn't a
main role in this. But so if what you are
overlooking the fact is she already is a celebrity, but
in terms of becoming an influencer, she has a brand
now that she wants to influence people to buy, and
(18:28):
isn't that a business person. What just because she's literally
smart enough to utilize social media, suddenly she's an influencer.
I don't think you can say that everyone who is
on Instagram and chooses to have an Instagram account is
an influence. But you're not looking at it from a
marketing perspective. But how is she an influencer? Like, yeah,
she's I mean, celebrities influence people if you're going to
(18:49):
use the word influence, But I don't think that she
is an influencer in the right of people spooking crappy brand.
I do find the timing of Megan's new venture very
interesting because she did a relatively quiet year. In twenty
twenty four, she did soft launch her new brand, American
Riviera Orchard, but it was pretty low key. To refresh
your memory, she sent her famous friends some jam that
(19:10):
she made, and we're still in the dark about what
else her brand will actually sell. It is now obvious
that she's been waiting for the Netflix show to drop
to start selling products in tandem. But it's strange to
me that she launched the brand ten months before the
Netflix show. I wonder why they didn't hold off doing
it all at once. There are rumors that she is
struggling to actually secure a trademark for the brand, so
(19:33):
that might have something to do with it. Do you
think you could have just been a red herring and
she's not actually releasing this brand. It was sort of like,
almost to Garner attentions like why is she selling jam?
And now it all makes sense. She's selling stuff because
the brand literally relates so perfectly to the lifestyle show.
One thing that's very clear is that Harry and Megan's
pr strategy has drastically changed. So since leaving the Royal family,
(19:54):
they were very much on the attack and they did
try to position themselves as the victims, even though I
do think they were the victims in that case, but
it really ended up having a negative impact on their
own profiles. And over the last year or so, you'll
notice that Harry and Meghan are working on very separate projects,
and as you touched upon Sovie, that has led to
rumors of a separation. But they're doing it very strategically
(20:17):
because people don't like them as a couple, so they're
having to rebrand as individuals and I do think this
is going to be a very positive move for Megan.
I mean It's clearly a strategic approach from the PR
team because they've wanted to distance Meghan from all of
the royal drama. They wanted to seem as if this
is an issue that Harry has with his family, and
she has stayed relatively quiet for the last two years,
(20:39):
and that's why it's so interesting to see this is
what they have launched with this lifestyle program. I think
that Meghan is no longer wanting to wade into drama.
She just wants to be seen in a different, more
positive light. I don't think that this is going to
be this success perhaps Kate that you think it will be.
I think that, unfortunately, I don't have faith in humanity,
(20:59):
and I think that this is going to become a
show that is very memified and paid out online. I
think that because she has the inclusion of her celebrity friends,
who seem to be quite out of touch with the world,
that it isn't going to bode well for her character,
particularly after the past year that Kate Middleton has had.
These women are constantly pitted against each other, but that's
(21:20):
why everyone loves Kate, so everyone wants to hate on
the fact that Megan has left the family. She's come
up with this show that's about her and her cooking.
But the thing is she doesn't actually have to be
universally liked. They've decided that she is going to relaunch
herself as a lifestyle influencer, and they are promoting that
show to a particular demographic who will like it and
(21:40):
then in turn by her product. Well, they've realized that
there's no way to undo the people who dislike hers opinions. Well,
you can't change that. I do know what the crazy
thing is. Can you imagine if, say, thirty years ago,
there was a Netflix show with Princess Diana talking about
her top tips for dinner parties and cooking. I would
have loved to have seen that, But do you know what,
it probably would have copped the same criticism as Meghan
(22:02):
is copping now because everyone is just so vile to women,
especially in the media. But why do we have this
thing where we think that people who are princesses and princes,
why do they have to be the common man? Like,
can't we just escape into their lives and seeing the luxury.
It's a celebrity before too. As you said, look at
Ballerina farm and Nara Smith. People watch that for a
(22:23):
form of escapism. No one's actually making their own chewing
gum on their own diet coke. It's a form of entertainment.
That being said, I think that the first couple of
episodes will have a lot of downloads and views, and
I think it will teeter off when the hate follow us.
That thing was a bit like a podcast, I suppose. Well,
I am very interested to watch it. I'm excited, so
I've got that locked in. And also, Molly Maystoco one
(22:44):
figure down if you left your phone in an uber
in Manhattan and didn't realize who you got inside, and
then couldn't contact the uber driver because you booked it
on your phone and your phone was in the uber.
Georgia Love has been criticized for wasting emergency services time
after calling nine to one one to help her find
her missing phone. The former bachelorette lost her iPhone after
(23:05):
accidentally leaving it in an uber in Manhattan during her
holiday to New York, Kay can you tell us more? Well?
After going mia on social media for three days, Georgia
returned to share her story about her lost phone, recounting
the tail on Instagram and TikTok. So it turns out
that she left her phone in an uber and didn't
realize until she got inside her best friend's apartment, and
(23:27):
she ended up tracking the location of the missing phone
and went to the police station to file a missing
items report. Now, the police told her that she'd have
to wait a week for them to assist her, but
she would be home in Melbourne by that time, so
she took matters into her own hands and took her
train to the location where her phone was showing up. Now,
after realizing that she couldn't just knock on random people's doors,
(23:49):
she phoned nine to one one and waited an hour
and a half for the police to turn up. Now,
during that time, she also popped into a local fire
station to make lost phone posters, which she distribed did
in the area. Now did she call the police because
she assumed that someone had stolen her phone and this
was now a crime. Well, she actually glazed over that,
and the police roped up and they're like, we're not
(24:09):
gonna be able to find your phone. They did knock
on a few doors and this fucking stupid Australia, Like,
what's going on the third door? They knocked on. A
guy came out and goes, oh, I actually have your phone.
Someone through it in the garbage bin. It was all
a bit of a confusing story. But why do I
feel like this is something that I would do If
my phone went missing, I would be putting out alerts
like police, please help me. This is my prize possession.
(24:32):
My phone is missing all of my holiday photos and
going on the milk cartons in America missing pot. Well,
a lot of people were shocked on TikTok that she
would actually call nine one one. They said it was
a terrible use of emergency services. I'm surprised that the
emergency services wouldn't just tell her to fuck off. Yeah,
we're not dealing with this. That's why I'm wondering what
she actually told them on the phone. Well, Georgia's sister
(24:53):
also wasn't thrilled by her story. So one follower commented
on George's post, this is insane. Will you te to
get murdered? And George's sister responded, I'm glad her sister
wasn't the only one thinking this. I told them not
to go because it was a bad idea, But sister
intuition told me they'd ignored that, so I started googling
the area the phone was last pinging in to find
the crime rate. When she was telling this story, she
(25:15):
was talking about how she had to go all the
way to Flashing Queens and I just got the Nanny
song in my head. Yeah, a lot of people were
actually commenting that as well. Maybe she was concerned that
someone might sell some of the messages or images to
the media because of her apparents split with her. How true?
But I mean would anyone really know who she is? Well,
it would take one Australian who's over there who watched
The Bachelorette. Well, you'd have to get into the phone, though,
(25:38):
you'd have to know her past her. That'd be he
could guess it. There'd be some kind of app that
would allow you to get in. I think, yeah, that
is an interesting point, because I was like, why the
hell was she so desperate to get her phone back?
I mean, if she's already got fined your phone set up,
surely she has that option to wipe the phone. Yeah.
I think how much DIRR is actually on your phone?
I mean you've got all of your credit cards as
(25:58):
well linked to it. Imagining your note someone going through
your notes section on your phone. This incident reminds me
of something that happened recently to Olivia Rodgers. So she
used an Uber to send some clothes back to her apartment.
I don't even know I could do that, but apparently
it's a service that a lot of people. Yeah, I
saw Abby Chatfield talking about it. Apparently her boyfriend ubered
(26:18):
her over some cough medicine or something. Must be like
a celebrity thing. Yeah. Well, and basically the Uber driver
allegedly then stole all of the islands and she never
got any of them back, and she lodged this huge
complaint against Uber, and she created like a series of
tiktoks about it, and I was thinking, well, she's never
getting a sponsorship deal with Uber again. So we're so
(26:38):
trusting as a society, now, aren't we. Well let's get
into our new segment called the Friday Debrief, and each
week we will either be bringing you a recommendation, a
fun story, or just a bit of a ranch. Now,
so if I want you to kick us off, I've
got a personal story or experience to kick things off with.
Oh I'm very intrigued. Well, when I announced that I
(27:01):
was pregnant, which was before Christmas a couple of weeks ago.
There are quite a few listeners who messaged me saying
that they're also pregnant around the same time, so I
thought maybe this was a helpful story to share. But
I have found myself over this festive period being consumed
by what I can wear. Now. I am four months
(27:21):
pregnant today, which is quite crazy to think of. But
I'm at that stage where I'm not necessarily I don't
have a big bump, like, I'm more looking on the
bloated side of things. And I'm finding it really difficult
because I've never really thought so much about what I'm
going to wear, Like I am interested in clothes, but
I'm having to try new things. I'm very much the
(27:41):
sort of person that just likes to wear trousers and
jeans and a single or shorts or whatever. But I
am finding that I have to now wear dresses, which
is very unusual for me. I feel like I'm having
to dip into this new feminine style and I feel
uncomfortable about it. I feel like you are a sort
of person that would wear dresses, but I don't wear
them to like if I go out to dinner for
a casual dinner. Like, I'm just finding that I'm having
(28:04):
to revisit what my style is, what I feel comfortable in,
and I feel like that there's a lot of other
people who are going through the early stages of pregnancy
at the moment that could relate to this, because you
just don't feel like yourself. Well, do you know what.
The other day, I was shopping and I have had
the first stranger congratulate me on my pregnancy. I'm just
(28:24):
over six months and I always a six months. Now
I'm twenty five weeks. That is wild. Yeah, so I
mean obviously I look pregnant, but I was at the
shops and this lady was like, by the way, congratulations,
and I thought that is brave, Like as in, I know,
I am twenty five weeks pregnant. But I find that
I will never congratulate somebody unless they bring it up.
(28:46):
We have actually gone shopping recently, Amy, because we're like,
I just need some new clothes, I need some inspiration.
And it's a hard one because you don't want to
spend too much money. Because my sister in law is gosh,
I think she must be almost eight months pregnant them
and it's gone so quickly, and she finds that she'll
buy something, but then within the next two weeks she
(29:07):
doesn't fit in it in it anymore. So it's that
whole thing of like, I don't want to dip into
fast fashion, but I don't want to buy things that
are ultra expensive that I'm potentially not going to wear again.
And on your Facebook marketplace is a good spot for
I was going to say, there's some really fashionable maternity
brands that I've seen pop up on Instagram, like Bay
(29:28):
the label, there's Lego Heritage. I'm probably pronouncing that wrong,
but there's a few brands and I'm thinking of investing
in them because you can buy them now and they're
going to stretch well. Target is also really good. I've
been watching a lot of TikTok videos and a lot
of really stylish women are getting their jeans. They're getting
like oversized tops, and they're quite reasonable prices as well.
(29:50):
I really don't want to wish summer away, but I
am very grateful that I'm going to be heavily pregnant
come winter, because that is when I'm going to be
just getting around it large baggy hoodies and tracksuits, and
it's just this weird time of year where you're having
to I suppose get your body out. You've timed it well.
I don't think I've timed it very well. Who's someone
(30:11):
it's so weird because I'm in exact timing of Kate,
so I can. It's kind of good and bad that
I can compare what she was at particular points. I
want to say, thank god I don't have two weddings
to be in because that would be an absolute new matter.
So I have a recommendation for a baby brand. It's
called Jay and Bay, and the owners of the company
are listeners of the podcast, and they were so kind
and sent me some of their smocks. Well, I think
(30:32):
they heard that you were struggling with feeding time because
Jack was getting very dirty. I know, I had peas
all over here because it's so cute. Now every day
you'll send us through a photo of Jack trying and
you solid and these smocks are so cute. It's funny
because some of them, like the colors, they almost go
with some of the foods he's trying. He looks almost
like an artist, like Yeah, not only are they really cute,
(30:53):
but they're very functional. So they've got this special flat
that you can tuck into the outfit so all the
food doesn't slop down on to their clothing. It's so good.
I've also got a recommendation, but this one is for
a TV show. So it's a new Netflix dock o
called Don't Die The Man who Wants to Live Forever,
And it's all about this very wealthy entrepreneur called Brian Johnson.
(31:16):
And if you're a listener dari of a CEO, you
will have heard of Brian. You are an avid listener.
But this guy, Brian, he's been all over the media.
People like to tout him as a bit of a
freak because he has basically invested millions and millions of
dollars in trying to keep young. He's trying to reverse
his biological clock. I mean, he's not interested in looking younger,
(31:38):
is he. It's more about staying alive for as long
A wow. Yeah, I mean I think he doesn't mind
if he looks a little bit younger because he's quite funny.
So when you watch this, Sopha, you'll understand his son
is in the documentary. And a lot of people think
that he's trying to wind back the clock to look
like his son. They look very, very similar. So he's
basically launched this movement to inspire other people to eat
(32:00):
healthier and look after their health and be more preventative,
you know, trying to stop Alzheimer's, for example, before it happens.
But it's crazy some of the lengths he'll go to,
Like he consumes about one hundred and fifty tablets per day.
That's the thing. It's just not reasonable for anyone else
who isn't a millionaire or a billionaire. And there's then
the whole debate, are they actually living their life to
(32:20):
the fullest, enjoying themselves? Well, they're just consumed with this
obsession of being alive for as long as possible, Like
what sort of life is that? Will? They explore this
theme throughout the documentary because he made it big through
this tech company, and he was living a very unhealthy
lifestyle to the point where he actually didn't want to
live life anymore. And apparently this has given him this
(32:41):
new lease on life. But I would highly recommend it.
It was one where I didn't even look at my
phone because there was so much going on, Like there
was the freak factor, but there was also a lot
of entertaining parts because I love those kind of health docos.
I found that there has been nothing to watch on TV,
so I really appreciate that recommendation. And it's been the
(33:02):
time of the year we've had the most time to
just sit and veg, but I found like I can't
find anything. It's a perfect doco as well, because everyone's
getting into their health routines. I mean, even though I'm
taking it a bit too far. You're obviously not going
to start taking one hundred and fifty supplements, but made
me think, well, I should be more careful what I
eat it is actually affecting your body. Well, I think
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the Adelaide Planes. We pay respect to elders past and present.
Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Sophie Tauber and coming up on today's show, Georgia Love
calls emergency services over her lost phone, Megan Markle's controversial rebrand,
and our New Friday Debrief. But first, I don't mean
to brag, but in the space of a week, another
(00:24):
one of our twenty twenty five predictions has already come true.
I actually gassed when I saw this, and I sent
it directly to you, Amy, because I want to give
you props you came up with this one. Yeah. So,
Queensland based influencer Sophie Jane Miller has followed in the
footsteps of Cartia Milan and Ashton Wood and launched, as
we predicted, her own matcha powder called Matcha Lane. And
(00:45):
I'm going to say I pulled that prediction out of
my absolute ass. There have been no signs other than
the fact that Sophie Jane Miller loves Matcha that she
would actually start her own business. She has made Matcha
her own personal brand. She makes it always on a
YouTube channel. She's always visiting a local cafe in Queensland
where they serve up her favorite match, ye o bagel
in Queens. I must be really kicking themselves. Sophie's not
(01:06):
going to be visiting there every day. Well. She and
her influencer bestie Georgia Richards have even named a YouTube
series Match of Therapy, so it is clear that she
loves Matcher and the strategy behind her announcement was quite
interesting because most influencers, if they're starting a new business,
they would do an announcement post saying this is my startup,
this is how I've done it, but she simply shared
(01:27):
an instructional video showing how she makes her morning match it.
She didn't even specify that the powder she was using
was her own. She simply wrote in the caption, how
I make the most delicious ice Matcher and tagged the
new brand. Let's throw to the real.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Your most perfect.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Far the most important way is that you.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Have a high quality. Is a ceremonial grade about three
scoops depending.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, I didn't even realize it was her own brand.
I only showed interest in the post because Amy, you
had made that prediction and I was like, oh, she's
teamed up with another company, and then when I clicked
on it, I was like, what, I actually think this
is really clever marketing because I think a lot of
people would actually switch off if they saw some video
of her announcing, oh, this is my matcher, but a
lot of people must organically be asking her, hey, where
(02:20):
do you actually get your matcher from? And by sharing
this instructional video, it's a really clever way to be like, well,
this is the one I use, and it just so
happens to be my brand. Yeah, it's so true. It
sort of reminds me of when Talia Scines used to
sprook third Fixes drink bottle and I never knew that
it was her boyfriend Mitch Third's brand. I thought, wow,
that drink bottle is really cool. She must genuinely love it,
(02:41):
She's always got it. And that's how it comes across
with this match a post. You're like, this must be
the matcher that she has been using all the time
in her YouTube videos, But it just turns out no,
it's one that she is spooking. Yeah. Well, all of
Sophie's influencer best is were quick to congratulate her in
the comment section, So Georgia Richards wrote yes, she has
officially a while Rachel Catherine wrote Maucha Laine might just
(03:03):
convert me into a much a drinker, whilst her manager,
laying from Posey Creative wrote so proud of you. It's
quite interesting because a few months ago we discussed how
Cartie Milan and also ashton Wood's match A brand shut
down and it's still unclear if this was because sales
were down, because this has become a very oversaturated market. See.
I thought it was obviously down to their friendship buster
(03:24):
up because I only had just launched the brand. But
if this brand was successful, would they then not go
and on sell it onto someone else and say, oh,
we've got this client base. It would be much money.
Don't easy just shut it down? Yeah? And I had
only just started, so they couldn't really go to another
company and say, oh, here's the projections of how much
this is going to earn blah blah blah. I've also
noticed in recent times there's been a lot of debate
(03:46):
around the ethics of white people profiting off selling a
traditional Japanese drink like Matcher. So far, the reaction, though,
has been pretty good. Her very loyal follower base seemed
very excited that she's brought out her own brand. I
think because it aligns with her because she's always talking
about Matcher. Her Instagram account so far has sixteen hundred followers,
(04:07):
and when you have a look at the website, it's
quite interesting because you discovered that she is running this
business alongside her dad, Cam, who seems to be quite
a successful businessman now. On the new brand's website, it
says the father and daughter duo share a love for
Matcher and after about a year of trying to find
the best tasting matcher here in Australia, they came up
short and decided to go straight to the source and
(04:28):
bring the good stuff here. When I read on their
website that they have sourced this matcher from Japan, I
initially thought, well, that's fantastic that they're actually supporting Japanese
manufacturing of Matcher. But that I also thought is at
the time that Sophie recently went to Japan, because just
last month she was in Japan for a jet Star
influencer trip. Yeah, was surely that would have been a
(04:49):
bit too much of a quick turnaround. It didn't seem
like they had much of an opportunity because on the
website it says that they visited farms in Japan to
source the best matcher. We must be heard dad doing
it then, because we've only seen on Sophie's vlogs last
year her going to Japan once. Well, that being said,
this could have been a very quick turnaround because unfortunately
(05:10):
there appears to be a spelling error on the packaging,
so instead of saying how to make, it says hot
to make. I felt bad for her because when you're
you've got to startup business, you want everything to be perfect.
So maybe they just wanted to get it out there
with the start of the new year. You've got a laugh,
don't yeah, situate just put a little sticker over the
top or something. I was quite surprised to see how
expensive this much actually is. So thirty five dollars for
(05:33):
a thirty grand bag. Yeah, when you compare it to
other brands like Trepeka, who sells match A tea for
twenty nine dollars, you get two hundred grams. It is
slightly different because that is Matcha tea. I know that
Sophie is selling a ceremonial grade matcher, which I think
is a little bit more expensive. But I had another
look at a brand who sells ceremonial grade leaves and
(05:54):
they sell a fifty grand bag for eighteen dollars, so
hers is quite costly. I think you're paying for the
fat that it's got her name and branding on it.
A lot of people are buying it because she put
up an Instagram story and her ticket machine for sales
was just going off. Can I say, Amy, though, I
think that your prediction was slightly wrong because weren't you
predicting that she would bring out a matched tea with
(06:15):
Georgie Stevenson's brand Naked Harvest.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I think I predicted that she'd bring out her own line,
and Kate, you suggested perhaps Naked Harvest because her friend
Georgia Richards, of course had her brand with Naked Heart.
What if she spoke to her manager and they both
worked out that she could be making far more money
by launching her own match a brand than doing it
with Naked Harvest. Looking at maybe the figures that Georgia
Richard's got. This isn't her first business, though, so she
(06:39):
started out selling an e book and that was really successful,
and then she's also had her own drink bottle company
and done a few other things, so maybe this is
going to be the one that really takes off for her.
The timing of the release I think is really good.
Being the new year, people are wanting to jump onto
year knew me. I want to become like a match
a girly. The only thing I find interesting is there's
(06:59):
been no men off her cookbook, which she was heavily
promoting last year, that she was taking photos for it
and all that. I d say, there had been a
bit of a whole in production. I think something with
the printer. I'm also surprised that she didn't launch a
YouTube video in conjunction with the launch of her new
brand to go inside. Yet Well, we're yet to see
a YouTube video from Sophie for this year. I think
(07:21):
she's going to launch with the news of the Matcher brand. See.
I just think it will be integrated into one of
her weekly vlogs. I think that she's really trying to
make it feel organic and not a hard sale.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
You'll often hear people say, well, you're helping women find
their voices, and I fundamentally disagree with that, because women
don't need to find a voice. They have a voice,
they need to feel empowered to use it, and people
need to be encouraged to listen.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Megan Mirkal has marked twenty twenty five as the year
of her comeback. After a five year social media hiatus,
The Duchess of Sussex returned to Instagram on New Year's
Day with a bang, unveiling her plans to get back
to her lifestyle blogging routes. Yes, and this social media
return has been years in the making, so she was
set to make a comeback in twenty twenty two to
(08:05):
coincide with the launch of her podcast Archetypes, and she
went as far as securing the handle at Meghan and
an interview with The Cut, she said that she was
getting back on Instagram. Is that because she was just
like just share, you know what I mean, Like just Meghan,
We'll drop the Meghan Markele despite the fact that she
is keeping the Duchess of Sussex in her title. Yeah.
I suppose it's an awkward one because everyone knows her
(08:27):
as Meghan Markle, but since getting married, she kind of
doesn't have a last name. Can you imagine Meghan Train
and she's like, fuck me. I'm also Meghan and I'm famous. Yeah,
I want to know who she bought the handle off
as well, because she clearly had to acquire it somehow. Now,
despite being ready to launch the account, she decided last
minute that she wasn't going to and at SAP dormant
for the last couple of years. Now, that all changed
on New Year's Day, So the account's profile picture of
(08:50):
a pink flower suddenly changed to a black and white
picture of Meghan. Yeah, wasn't there a lot of mystery
surrounding that Instagram account because people saw the Meghan account
pop up, but no one knew if it was actually
Megan Markle because she did put up that strange display picture. Yeah, well,
she had dropped a lot of clues as I was
saying before that she was launching this account. Then the
account at Meghan popped up, but it did have this
(09:12):
strange profile picture. I'm super confused because I went to
follow it at the time when there was a lot
of speculation or is this Megan? But I had to
refollow come New Year's Days. I don't know what happened there.
The account did have one hundred thousand followers when it
wasn't confirmed to be hers and then as at the
time of recording, it's got one point three million. So
obviously the word got out there that this was the
(09:32):
real Megan. So on New Year's Day she uploaded a
video of her frolicking on the beach and she wrote
twenty twenty five in the sand. Now word has it
that Prince Harry actually filmed the video. He did a
good job, but it kind of looked like one of
those videos in a crime show that depicts the wife
who's been murdered. Yes, it did remind me of that. Yeah,
(09:54):
I love her and for some reason I couldn't help
but crtings really hard at that video. It just seemed
a bit try well. Someone said it was giving Pinterest
twenty twelve vibes, And to be fair, Meghan has been
off social media for a long time, so she actually
deactivated her personal Instagram account seven years ago when she
got engaged to Prince Harry. They did have their Sussex
(10:16):
Royal account, but again that's laid dormant for the last
five years. When they left. The Royal family actually surprised
that Meghan hasn't got more followers, because if you compare
her number of followers to Kate and Wills. They've got
sixteen point eight million, but they've had like fifteen years
to build it that She's had it for a couple
of days. They've had their account for fifteen. Oh, actually
they probably have considering how long they've been married. Yeah,
(10:38):
I mean a million's pretty good for only a week
into the new year. I think that is going to
grow and grow from there. One thing that stood out
to me was this comeback video wasn't actually specifically shot
for Instagram. It was shot in a landscape mode, so
it didn't really suit reels. Yeah, that's one thing I
can't stand when people do post those landscape videos. You're like, fuck,
it's so much better as a reel. It didn't stop
(11:00):
the traction because it did get eight million views. Now,
the real reason for Megan's social media return became apparent
the following day, and this is when she dropped the
trailer for her new Netflix lifestyle show called With Love
Meghan and this is going to start airing on the
sixteenth of January, a day before Molly Bay's documentary set
(11:20):
to air on Prime Yes, I am so excited to
watch both of these. So the teaser was set to
the song Do You Believe In Magic? And it showed
Megan in the kitchen, decorating cakes, making for carture, arranging flowers,
and even collecting honey in a beekeeper suit. It was
really giving David Beckham vibes from his doco. Yeah, here's
(11:40):
a little taste of the promo, Let's go.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
I have always loved taking something pretty ordinary and elevating it,
surprising people with moments that let them know I was
really thinking of them.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
What this is probably one of the most glamorous summons
of my life.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
It's I'm going to share some little tips and tricks.
I see what color I gravitate to, and everything goes
from there. And how you can incorporate these practices every day.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
That's what you want.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
You want that sheep and texture, Tom, This is about
connecting with friends. I love that we're doing this together
for the first time, making new friends.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
That is so good. Now I seem to be in
the minority because I got really excited when I saw
the trailer. Megan was really reminding me a lot of
Nigella Laws and this type of show is something that
I would really enjoy watching. I was one of the
people who was excited too, but that's because I am
a Megan fan. The only thing that disappointed me a
little bit was the appearance of all of these celebrities,
(12:51):
because I knew instantly that that was going to cop
criticism from people. People are going to act like this
is quite an elitist program. It just reminded me of
her podcast, because the podcast archetype. She invited all of
her A list superstar friends on to talk about issues
that are apparently related to the common person, and people didn't
(13:11):
find it relatable. People found it a bit pukeheathy. Yeah, again,
I am a Megan fan. But the only thing is
everything she does and it just seems so American, Like
she is American. Again, she's American, but I think that
that's what the British don't like about her. Their critics
were quick to slam Meghan's show, so it was labeled dull.
She was labeled entitled, tone deaf and tasteless. In the
(13:34):
midst of a cost of living crisis that seems to
be something that everyone's sort of the go to, isn't
It's like, how discussing it's the cost of living crisis
and that she's there, she is making cakes for a
celebrity friend. I think that's a bit of a shit
Megan reaction. Yeah, Well, Meghan McCain, who was the daughter
of former Republican Senator John McCain. She shared an absolutely
(13:55):
scathing response to the trailer on x SO. She wrote,
there have been two terror attacks in two days, major
wars raging, and Americans can't pay for groceries. We are
a country in rage, uncertainty, and intensity right now. This
is why the world doesn't like you. Nothing else, just
completely and utterly tone death to the moment. But don't
we want to escape all of that by watching a
(14:16):
charming show of someone cooking up a storm in the
kitchen and using flowers to sprinkle over their cereal. Like
this is escapism at its best. But I just think
it's sad that this woman, who has been so heavily
criticized and I think unfairly criticized by the media and
by the public, all she does is release a feel
good cooking show. They've probably done it strategically because they've thought, well,
(14:38):
we can't really have Megan talking about women's rights. We
can't have this because this is going to piss people off.
They've literally just released a feel good show and everyone's like,
fuck you are. Oh it comes off the back of
Harry releasing a documentary show about Polo, which they were
trying to go for the vibe of Survive to Drive
or F one or whatever those racing shows are called,
and it really missed the mark. People said that this
(14:59):
show was boring. There was a lot of orchestrated drama.
He didn't appear in it, which they think he made.
He popped that once, but he wasn't a character in it,
and there was a lot of speculation and questions around, well,
can they sell something that they're not in. In this case,
she is in this and I think that it is
a case of tall poppy syndrome. People want to drag
(15:19):
her down. There were never going to be rave reviews
about this show, and I think that Meghan's PR team
would know this, and they're hoping that everyone comes in
with such low expectations that when the show comes out,
everyone's like, oh, it actually wasn't too bad. Well, this
is the thing, And I think a lot of these
commentators are actually showing how out of date they are,
because there was a lot of conversation around the fact
(15:40):
that they can't believe that Meghan has gone through so
much and then wants to relaunch herself as an influencer.
I mean, ever since Meghan found fame on suits, she
has been interested in being an influencer in the lifestyle space.
She had a lifestyle vlog called The Tig and she
also posted heaps of aspirational photos on Instagram. This is
very Meghan. I think this shows the snobbery around the
(16:02):
role of an influence and also people not understanding the
role of an influencer. You don't have to be universally
liked to be an influence. Also very clever, but because
in twenty twenty four we saw this rise of tid
wives and influencers like Nara Smith making cooking look very
glamorous and an activity that a lot of a lot
of women wanted to do. We were talking about in
(16:22):
our subs episode, how on TikTok dinner parties are all
the craze. People want to have a beautiful home to
welcome people into. They want to be making their own food,
they want to be growing their own produce. It's really
been glamorized. When you talk about influencers, I more think
of Megan as being like a Martha Stewart, like a
new Martha Stewart, and she was touted as one of
(16:42):
the first influencers, especially in American culture. It's kind of
like she doesn't want to be some tacky influencer who's sprooking,
teeth whitening, but she wants to be a big symbol
for people out there. And that's why I think people
just look at the term influencer and they underrate it.
They I don't understand how powerful the influencer industry is.
(17:03):
And it's just this lack of understanding about this modern
marketing tactic, particularly when you think about hate following, because
people are saying, no one is going to watch this show,
it's terrible, And the numbers really speak for themselves because
the trailer has been viewed over six million times on
Megan's Instagram and a million on YouTube. And to be
successful as an influencer, you only need a portion of
(17:23):
your audience to actually like you, and considering she's already
got one point two million followers on Instagram, they're going
to be enough people to buy products from her. Going
back to this point about how Meghan Markel apparently wants
to be an influencer. I reject that she wants to
be a celebrity. She wants to be a cult like
celebrity like Oprah. She doesn't want to sit spooking cheap
(17:44):
tacky products like teeth whitening. She wants to have celebrity status.
And I also think the reason she doesn't want to
be an influencer is because most influencers actually have to
open up about their private life. Yes, they add a
lot of their dirty laundry about the royal family, but
she doesn't want to go into her marriage struggles or
her friendship breakdoesn't mean at the moment there is a
lot of speculation and rumors that she and Harry are
(18:07):
supposedly divorced and not together, which is why there are
a lot of eyeballs on this teaser because people like,
is Prince Harry going to be in it? He wasn't
in there for a few seconds, but he wasn't a
main role in this. But so if what you are
overlooking the fact is she already is a celebrity, but
in terms of becoming an influencer, she has a brand
now that she wants to influence people to buy, and
(18:28):
isn't that a business person. What just because she's literally
smart enough to utilize social media, suddenly she's an influencer.
I don't think you can say that everyone who is
on Instagram and chooses to have an Instagram account is
an influence. But you're not looking at it from a
marketing perspective. But how is she an influencer? Like, yeah,
she's I mean, celebrities influence people if you're going to
(18:49):
use the word influence, But I don't think that she
is an influencer in the right of people spooking crappy brand.
I do find the timing of Megan's new venture very
interesting because she did a relatively quiet year. In twenty
twenty four, she did soft launch her new brand, American
Riviera Orchard, but it was pretty low key. To refresh
your memory, she sent her famous friends some jam that
(19:10):
she made, and we're still in the dark about what
else her brand will actually sell. It is now obvious
that she's been waiting for the Netflix show to drop
to start selling products in tandem. But it's strange to
me that she launched the brand ten months before the
Netflix show. I wonder why they didn't hold off doing
it all at once. There are rumors that she is
struggling to actually secure a trademark for the brand, so
(19:33):
that might have something to do with it. Do you
think you could have just been a red herring and
she's not actually releasing this brand. It was sort of like,
almost to Garner attentions like why is she selling jam?
And now it all makes sense. She's selling stuff because
the brand literally relates so perfectly to the lifestyle show.
One thing that's very clear is that Harry and Megan's
pr strategy has drastically changed. So since leaving the Royal family,
(19:54):
they were very much on the attack and they did
try to position themselves as the victims, even though I
do think they were the victims in that case, but
it really ended up having a negative impact on their
own profiles. And over the last year or so, you'll
notice that Harry and Meghan are working on very separate projects,
and as you touched upon Sovie, that has led to
rumors of a separation. But they're doing it very strategically
(20:17):
because people don't like them as a couple, so they're
having to rebrand as individuals and I do think this
is going to be a very positive move for Megan.
I mean It's clearly a strategic approach from the PR
team because they've wanted to distance Meghan from all of
the royal drama. They wanted to seem as if this
is an issue that Harry has with his family, and
she has stayed relatively quiet for the last two years,
(20:39):
and that's why it's so interesting to see this is
what they have launched with this lifestyle program. I think
that Meghan is no longer wanting to wade into drama.
She just wants to be seen in a different, more
positive light. I don't think that this is going to
be this success perhaps Kate that you think it will be.
I think that, unfortunately, I don't have faith in humanity,
(20:59):
and I think that this is going to become a
show that is very memified and paid out online. I
think that because she has the inclusion of her celebrity friends,
who seem to be quite out of touch with the world,
that it isn't going to bode well for her character,
particularly after the past year that Kate Middleton has had.
These women are constantly pitted against each other, but that's
(21:20):
why everyone loves Kate, so everyone wants to hate on
the fact that Megan has left the family. She's come
up with this show that's about her and her cooking.
But the thing is she doesn't actually have to be
universally liked. They've decided that she is going to relaunch
herself as a lifestyle influencer, and they are promoting that
show to a particular demographic who will like it and
(21:40):
then in turn by her product. Well, they've realized that
there's no way to undo the people who dislike hers opinions. Well,
you can't change that. I do know what the crazy
thing is. Can you imagine if, say, thirty years ago,
there was a Netflix show with Princess Diana talking about
her top tips for dinner parties and cooking. I would
have loved to have seen that, But do you know what,
it probably would have copped the same criticism as Meghan
(22:02):
is copping now because everyone is just so vile to women,
especially in the media. But why do we have this
thing where we think that people who are princesses and princes,
why do they have to be the common man? Like,
can't we just escape into their lives and seeing the luxury.
It's a celebrity before too. As you said, look at
Ballerina farm and Nara Smith. People watch that for a
(22:23):
form of escapism. No one's actually making their own chewing
gum on their own diet coke. It's a form of entertainment.
That being said, I think that the first couple of
episodes will have a lot of downloads and views, and
I think it will teeter off when the hate follow us.
That thing was a bit like a podcast, I suppose. Well,
I am very interested to watch it. I'm excited, so
I've got that locked in. And also, Molly Maystoco one
(22:44):
figure down if you left your phone in an uber
in Manhattan and didn't realize who you got inside, and
then couldn't contact the uber driver because you booked it
on your phone and your phone was in the uber.
Georgia Love has been criticized for wasting emergency services time
after calling nine to one one to help her find
her missing phone. The former bachelorette lost her iPhone after
(23:05):
accidentally leaving it in an uber in Manhattan during her
holiday to New York, Kay can you tell us more? Well?
After going mia on social media for three days, Georgia
returned to share her story about her lost phone, recounting
the tail on Instagram and TikTok. So it turns out
that she left her phone in an uber and didn't
realize until she got inside her best friend's apartment, and
(23:27):
she ended up tracking the location of the missing phone
and went to the police station to file a missing
items report. Now, the police told her that she'd have
to wait a week for them to assist her, but
she would be home in Melbourne by that time, so
she took matters into her own hands and took her
train to the location where her phone was showing up. Now,
after realizing that she couldn't just knock on random people's doors,
(23:49):
she phoned nine to one one and waited an hour
and a half for the police to turn up. Now,
during that time, she also popped into a local fire
station to make lost phone posters, which she distribed did
in the area. Now did she call the police because
she assumed that someone had stolen her phone and this
was now a crime. Well, she actually glazed over that,
and the police roped up and they're like, we're not
(24:09):
gonna be able to find your phone. They did knock
on a few doors and this fucking stupid Australia, Like,
what's going on the third door? They knocked on. A
guy came out and goes, oh, I actually have your phone.
Someone through it in the garbage bin. It was all
a bit of a confusing story. But why do I
feel like this is something that I would do If
my phone went missing, I would be putting out alerts
like police, please help me. This is my prize possession.
(24:32):
My phone is missing all of my holiday photos and
going on the milk cartons in America missing pot. Well,
a lot of people were shocked on TikTok that she
would actually call nine one one. They said it was
a terrible use of emergency services. I'm surprised that the
emergency services wouldn't just tell her to fuck off. Yeah,
we're not dealing with this. That's why I'm wondering what
she actually told them on the phone. Well, Georgia's sister
(24:53):
also wasn't thrilled by her story. So one follower commented
on George's post, this is insane. Will you te to
get murdered? And George's sister responded, I'm glad her sister
wasn't the only one thinking this. I told them not
to go because it was a bad idea, But sister
intuition told me they'd ignored that, so I started googling
the area the phone was last pinging in to find
the crime rate. When she was telling this story, she
(25:15):
was talking about how she had to go all the
way to Flashing Queens and I just got the Nanny
song in my head. Yeah, a lot of people were
actually commenting that as well. Maybe she was concerned that
someone might sell some of the messages or images to
the media because of her apparents split with her. How true?
But I mean would anyone really know who she is? Well,
it would take one Australian who's over there who watched
The Bachelorette. Well, you'd have to get into the phone, though,
(25:38):
you'd have to know her past her. That'd be he
could guess it. There'd be some kind of app that
would allow you to get in. I think, yeah, that
is an interesting point, because I was like, why the
hell was she so desperate to get her phone back?
I mean, if she's already got fined your phone set up,
surely she has that option to wipe the phone. Yeah.
I think how much DIRR is actually on your phone?
I mean you've got all of your credit cards as
(25:58):
well linked to it. Imagining your note someone going through
your notes section on your phone. This incident reminds me
of something that happened recently to Olivia Rodgers. So she
used an Uber to send some clothes back to her apartment.
I don't even know I could do that, but apparently
it's a service that a lot of people. Yeah, I
saw Abby Chatfield talking about it. Apparently her boyfriend ubered
(26:18):
her over some cough medicine or something. Must be like
a celebrity thing. Yeah. Well, and basically the Uber driver
allegedly then stole all of the islands and she never
got any of them back, and she lodged this huge
complaint against Uber, and she created like a series of
tiktoks about it, and I was thinking, well, she's never
getting a sponsorship deal with Uber again. So we're so
(26:38):
trusting as a society, now, aren't we. Well let's get
into our new segment called the Friday Debrief, and each
week we will either be bringing you a recommendation, a
fun story, or just a bit of a ranch. Now,
so if I want you to kick us off, I've
got a personal story or experience to kick things off with.
Oh I'm very intrigued. Well, when I announced that I
(27:01):
was pregnant, which was before Christmas a couple of weeks ago.
There are quite a few listeners who messaged me saying
that they're also pregnant around the same time, so I
thought maybe this was a helpful story to share. But
I have found myself over this festive period being consumed
by what I can wear. Now. I am four months
(27:21):
pregnant today, which is quite crazy to think of. But
I'm at that stage where I'm not necessarily I don't
have a big bump, like, I'm more looking on the
bloated side of things. And I'm finding it really difficult
because I've never really thought so much about what I'm
going to wear, Like I am interested in clothes, but
I'm having to try new things. I'm very much the
(27:41):
sort of person that just likes to wear trousers and
jeans and a single or shorts or whatever. But I
am finding that I have to now wear dresses, which
is very unusual for me. I feel like I'm having
to dip into this new feminine style and I feel
uncomfortable about it. I feel like you are a sort
of person that would wear dresses, but I don't wear
them to like if I go out to dinner for
a casual dinner. Like, I'm just finding that I'm having
(28:04):
to revisit what my style is, what I feel comfortable in,
and I feel like that there's a lot of other
people who are going through the early stages of pregnancy
at the moment that could relate to this, because you
just don't feel like yourself. Well, do you know what.
The other day, I was shopping and I have had
the first stranger congratulate me on my pregnancy. I'm just
(28:24):
over six months and I always a six months. Now
I'm twenty five weeks. That is wild. Yeah, so I
mean obviously I look pregnant, but I was at the
shops and this lady was like, by the way, congratulations,
and I thought that is brave, Like as in, I know,
I am twenty five weeks pregnant. But I find that
I will never congratulate somebody unless they bring it up.
(28:46):
We have actually gone shopping recently, Amy, because we're like,
I just need some new clothes, I need some inspiration.
And it's a hard one because you don't want to
spend too much money. Because my sister in law is gosh,
I think she must be almost eight months pregnant them
and it's gone so quickly, and she finds that she'll
buy something, but then within the next two weeks she
(29:07):
doesn't fit in it in it anymore. So it's that
whole thing of like, I don't want to dip into
fast fashion, but I don't want to buy things that
are ultra expensive that I'm potentially not going to wear again.
And on your Facebook marketplace is a good spot for
I was going to say, there's some really fashionable maternity
brands that I've seen pop up on Instagram, like Bay
(29:28):
the label, there's Lego Heritage. I'm probably pronouncing that wrong,
but there's a few brands and I'm thinking of investing
in them because you can buy them now and they're
going to stretch well. Target is also really good. I've
been watching a lot of TikTok videos and a lot
of really stylish women are getting their jeans. They're getting
like oversized tops, and they're quite reasonable prices as well.
(29:50):
I really don't want to wish summer away, but I
am very grateful that I'm going to be heavily pregnant
come winter, because that is when I'm going to be
just getting around it large baggy hoodies and tracksuits, and
it's just this weird time of year where you're having
to I suppose get your body out. You've timed it well.
I don't think I've timed it very well. Who's someone
(30:11):
it's so weird because I'm in exact timing of Kate,
so I can. It's kind of good and bad that
I can compare what she was at particular points. I
want to say, thank god I don't have two weddings
to be in because that would be an absolute new matter.
So I have a recommendation for a baby brand. It's
called Jay and Bay, and the owners of the company
are listeners of the podcast, and they were so kind
and sent me some of their smocks. Well, I think
(30:32):
they heard that you were struggling with feeding time because
Jack was getting very dirty. I know, I had peas
all over here because it's so cute. Now every day
you'll send us through a photo of Jack trying and
you solid and these smocks are so cute. It's funny
because some of them, like the colors, they almost go
with some of the foods he's trying. He looks almost
like an artist, like Yeah, not only are they really cute,
(30:53):
but they're very functional. So they've got this special flat
that you can tuck into the outfit so all the
food doesn't slop down on to their clothing. It's so good.
I've also got a recommendation, but this one is for
a TV show. So it's a new Netflix dock o
called Don't Die The Man who Wants to Live Forever,
And it's all about this very wealthy entrepreneur called Brian Johnson.
(31:16):
And if you're a listener dari of a CEO, you
will have heard of Brian. You are an avid listener.
But this guy, Brian, he's been all over the media.
People like to tout him as a bit of a
freak because he has basically invested millions and millions of
dollars in trying to keep young. He's trying to reverse
his biological clock. I mean, he's not interested in looking younger,
(31:38):
is he. It's more about staying alive for as long
A wow. Yeah, I mean I think he doesn't mind
if he looks a little bit younger because he's quite funny.
So when you watch this, Sopha, you'll understand his son
is in the documentary. And a lot of people think
that he's trying to wind back the clock to look
like his son. They look very, very similar. So he's
basically launched this movement to inspire other people to eat
(32:00):
healthier and look after their health and be more preventative,
you know, trying to stop Alzheimer's, for example, before it happens.
But it's crazy some of the lengths he'll go to,
Like he consumes about one hundred and fifty tablets per day.
That's the thing. It's just not reasonable for anyone else
who isn't a millionaire or a billionaire. And there's then
the whole debate, are they actually living their life to
(32:20):
the fullest, enjoying themselves? Well, they're just consumed with this
obsession of being alive for as long as possible, Like
what sort of life is that? Will? They explore this
theme throughout the documentary because he made it big through
this tech company, and he was living a very unhealthy
lifestyle to the point where he actually didn't want to
live life anymore. And apparently this has given him this
(32:41):
new lease on life. But I would highly recommend it.
It was one where I didn't even look at my
phone because there was so much going on, Like there
was the freak factor, but there was also a lot
of entertaining parts because I love those kind of health docos.
I found that there has been nothing to watch on TV,
so I really appreciate that recommendation. And it's been the
(33:02):
time of the year we've had the most time to
just sit and veg, but I found like I can't
find anything. It's a perfect doco as well, because everyone's
getting into their health routines. I mean, even though I'm
taking it a bit too far. You're obviously not going
to start taking one hundred and fifty supplements, but made
me think, well, I should be more careful what I
eat it is actually affecting your body. Well, I think
that's it for today. If you haven't already, we would
(33:24):
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leaving us a five star review because it really helps
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If you are a listener who does enjoy listening to
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I would also love to know now that we have
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did our Ins and Outs for twenty twenty five. In
(34:07):
that episode, it's a bit of a trend at the
moment I'm seeing on TikTok. Let us know what your
ins and outs are as well well. This episode was
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