April 2025: Jax Event Update!/Spring Practice/House Settlement

Chip Scoggins, Ryan Burns and Justin Gaard are back after a few weeks off and announce the big news that Koi Perich, Jaxon Howard and some other players will be joining Saturday's event at Jax Cafe! Burnsie updates the group on what he's seen at Gopher spring practice (including Drake Lindsay observations) and the guys discuss the update on the House Settlement hearings and Gaardsy's interview with Mark Coyle from the Final Four.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Glenn Mason said a long time ago at the University
of Minnesota, you need.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
A Pair and a Spare.

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Thank you, PJ. This time for another edition of the
Pair and a Spare podcast. We are presented as always
by Jack's Cafe Jaxcafe dot com. I'm justin guard from
the fan. We've got Ryan Burns from Gopher Illustrated dot com.
Choo or riveder Chi Chipscoggins. I don't know any other
Italian words, but he's by journovon Journal Chipschoggins. Chao ba

(00:27):
ba ba ba ba ba ba ba Luigi Nana. That's
what we say to lou Nanny, welcome back to the States.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, I'm turned upside down a little bit. I'm gonna idea.
It was an early morning we got back, not late
last night, but my body clock is on Italian time
right now. So I was up at I don't know,
four thirty thinking I should be walking around the streets
of Florence right now.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Oh that does sound nice. Instead, you're I.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Will I will say this. Put it on your bucket
list to take your your wives because it is uh,
it is a pretty magical place. Yeah we did, Yeah,
we did two days flew into Rome, did two days there,
did the Vatican and uh Basilica, which is really cool,

(01:18):
and then uh the Coliseum the next day. But you know,
you sound like Robin Williams and Goodwill hunting, but it
is when you look up at the Sistine Chapel when
you're there, it's pretty uh it's pretty uh mind blowing.
But that was cool, I mean kind of those touristy things.
And then we took a train up to Florence. We're
there for five nights, and we like Florence better. I mean,

(01:40):
Rome was great, but Florence is just it's hard to
even to describe. It is just these uh beautiful buildings.
But they also have like squares, town squares, but then
city squares, and then they have like just little back
alleys and you can find these small alleys where you

(02:01):
look at like what's this and you go back there
and you have the best restaurant you've ever had, best pasta.
And so we did a lot of wandering. We had
uh we we did a mix of organized things and
then just kind of wandering around stumbling into places, which
was which was cool. I mean we did a I
did a I don't cook, I grill but I can't.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, you know, and you make crab but you lose that.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Times in back.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
We did a Yeah, we did a post. We did
a pasta making class. Took a pasta making class and
sure enough, there's like twenty people in our group. And
one of the families was from is a mom and
dad there, daughter studying abroad there and they had two
younger sons there from uh Chaska. But we did that.
That was cool. We did Probably our favorite thing we

(02:50):
did was we did a e bike tour ah in
this town. It's like twenty miles out side of Florence,
up in the Tuscan Hills, and it's it's not like
just a guy who did is just me and my
wife and he only does four people at a time,
and there's no one else that just me and my wife.

(03:11):
And it was as authentic as it gets it. There
wasn't a lot of I don't know that any anybody
else does it because we didn't see any other bike tours.
And I mean we went, you know, through these small
villages and out in the Tuscan fields and just it
was incredible for four hours and it was just a guide,
which is a super cool dude who lived there, he
grew up there, took us by his childhood home, and

(03:34):
I mean part of was like you know that the
author wrote Dante's Inferno and the trilogy there, like we
went by the house that he lived in. I mean
it was, Yeah, it was a blasting. We took a
day trip to some wineries out in Sienna, and I
forgot that the name of the other town saying.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Something much drink on this trip.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Oh my god, it's unbelievable. Like their wine is so
different than the wine we get here, Like you just
go there to you know. That's the other thing I'm
gonna have to get used to is not having wine
with lunch like that. The re entry is gonna be tough.
The no wine at lunch because that was pretty much

(04:16):
a staple. But it was it's weird, like you just
get the table wine, like you said, give us a
you know, table wine red and they'll bring us like
this conties. It is just so good and it doesn't
it's lighter than ours, so you're not walking away from like,
oh my god, I've just had a bottle of wine.
You know, it's like it doesn't. I think that is
like eleven percent alcohol or whatever. But it was just

(04:38):
so fantastic. The food was outstanding. You're gonna get a
good meal everywhere, and it was, as we say, other
than our trips with our kids. I mean, it was
the best experience that we've had in our lives. I mean,
it was just I would I would highly recommend to
put it on your bucket list for anybody listening, because
it's just something you know, we think about, like our

(04:59):
his in this country, and then you go there and
they start right, yeah, this this was two hundred BC.
You know they were built. It's like, wha, It's incredible.
How the history and you know, especially when you tour
in the Vatican and Saint Peter's Basilica. Uh, just to
look up and see, you know, these paintings and the

(05:22):
sculptures and just the you know everything the architecture is
just fascinating.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
So well, that's where I want to know, for Justin
what was more breathtaking for you? The River Walk or
the Magic Kingdom.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
I was at both of those places, wasn't I I
would actually say the Toledo mud Hens Ballpark in downtown Toledo, Ohio,
where I actually was, or the Springfield, Missouri Hotel where
I was for about eight hours, where there was definitely
there's definitely some type of operation going on there at
the Springfield, Missouri Hotel. Some of the some of the

(05:58):
people I was seeing kind of going in and out
out our rooms. There's definitely there's definitely some business going on,
it seemed like. But yeah, nothing like that, although the
level of detail in Disney World also the same. That
is my favorite part is the uh yeah, that we
actually survived thirteen hours at the Magic Kingdom. I also,
like chip, I had to get accustomed to not drinking

(06:20):
during the day when I came back, because that is
it is funny how you get into those habits of
I'm on vacation, let's see and you know, table IPAs
are good wherever. Yeah, that's right. I could just do whatever,
so I did have to. That was a little bit
of an adjustment where you're like, well, it is lunchtime,
but I probably don't. I'm not driving anywhere. I'm getting

(06:42):
on a bus to go here. I'm at the beach
to go there. I did, and I'm mad at myself
because I knew I had something I needed to pull
up to show a picture of today, and I didn't
do it, and now I'm gonna burn it. I'm gonna
burn the bit because I got to go chip to
a place for the first time that Ryan Burns was
convinced I had been to with him. Do you remember

(07:06):
the place, Ryan Burns?

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Is it Whiskey Joe's.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Whiskey Joe's in Tampa, right off of sixty. And I
took a picture of it, and I was gonna pull
it up and I was gonna throw it right on
the screen. Here. My family's running in there, my kids,
my wife, my mom. I'm lingering behind and she says,
what are you doing? I says, I got to take
a picture for Burnsy because he's convinced that we shared
rum runners here in twenty nineteen before the Outback Bowl,

(07:30):
and I have never been here before. I have driven
by it. I drove by it a bunch. We drove
by it to get to Clearwater Beach because it's right
there on that state Highway sixty. But we went right,
Burnsy to the family friendly restaurant. We did not go
left to the beach bar where you apparently had drinks
with me. That's how that's how drunk you were. You
thought that you and I had these deep life talk

(07:50):
conversations when I have never been there except for whatever
day that was March thirty, first, April first, whatever day
before we came home. We had right there, looked out
at the old Tampa Bay, played on that little beach
a little bit with the kids, and then went home.
But I can see why you liked it so much, Burnsy,
But that was, in fact the first time that I'd

(08:11):
ever been there.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Oh my god, you have good weather. Do you have
good weather down there?

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Perfect? I mean too hot? Eighty five ninety degrees. It
was too hot, but yeah, it was. I made a
trip down after Toledo and Springfield, I made a trip
down to Florida same day. Came back to Minneapolis Gopher's
WBIT quarterfinal against Gonzaga. Knocked that out Friday morning, went
back to Florida. Couldn't go to the WBIT finals because

(08:37):
I needed to be in San Antonio on Wednesday and
for the final four, which I was. And I know
Burnsy heard my interview with Mark Coyle, which we might
talk about. Thanks for promoting at Burnsy on Gopher Illustrated
dot Com.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
I got you.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
But at one point because of a funeral I had
to go to for my uncle who passed away. From
Toledo to Springfield, I was in seven states in two days. Now,
I'm cheating a little bit because you drive from Detroit
to get to Toledo the Detroit airport, so it's Ohio
in the morning, Ohio to Michigan, to Minneapolis, to Iowa

(09:10):
to the Sioux Falls Airport, which is lovely, connect in Denver,
get to Springfield, Missouri, then come back home. That was
my Friday to Saturday to Sunday. That was a little
dicey even for me.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, did you ever have that? I used to have
this when I covered the Wild when I was the
big guy. Those moments where you wake up you're like,
I cannot even remember what state I'm in, where I'm at,
Like I would have those, like if you did a
back to back and you're like, yeah, right, am I
in Like that first thing you wake up, You're like,
am I in Buffalo? Or am I in Troy? And
I can't remember?

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yeah. It wasn't so much that as much as I
wake up paniced that I've overslept, because usually my kids
or our new puppy, which is a whole other Puppy
whole other podcast. Usually they wake us up, so like
when I'm leaving for first thing in the morning on
Saturday morning to get out of Texas, like you wake

(10:05):
up and I'm panicked that I've overslept, and it's just
that I've actually woken up before my even alarm. So
that's where I panic. On the road, I usually can
figure out where I am, but that was that three
weeks was pretty choppy, even for me, even to come
back from Florida and go right to San Antonio and
then be there for a couple of days. Yeah, even
for me, that was something. So now I don't know

(10:26):
when my next trip is, which is an unsettling situation
for me. I guess it's big ten Football Media Days
in July when we all go to when Burnsy and
I will go to Vegas and Chip. We'll be texting
Chip from somewhere on the strip. All right, Well, should
we move on from our travels. I'm sure everybody's locked
in on our itinerary. Go to Italy, like Chip said,
go to the Magic Kingdom, like I said, very fun,

(10:48):
very good. But we're back and we got a big
event on Saturday that we got to remind people of
if you haven't bought tickets, and thank you to everyone
that has. I for one, am pleasantly surprised how many
of you are showing up. I had a little faith
in our podcast audience. I'm just gonna be honest, but
we're very excited on April twelfth, if you're listening to
this Saturday, and we've seen all of us have posted

(11:09):
about it, Dickeyton Athletes has posted about it. We're doing
a little bit of a fundraiser, but certainly just a gathering,
a fellowship, as Mike Grimm would like to say, on
Saturday at Jack's Cafe, a little pair and a spare roundtable,
for lack of a better term, social hour. There's going
to be some dinner involved, there's silent auction stuff involved
and burnsy Why don't you tell the audience besides the

(11:31):
three of us, which what a draw? I mean, that's
if you need anything else after that, if you need
anything else after that. And thank you to all those
that already have bought tickets. Even though it is the
three of us and Derek and Robert and everybody from DTA,
who else will be there at Jack's Cafe on Saturday there.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Will be no grin wider in the entire room. When
it's six pm, the boy Wonder from ESCO himself, Coy
Perrich will be attending the pair in a spare event
here at Jack's Cafe.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Chip.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Are you gonna hog all forty five minutes with him?
Is it gonna be just forty three? Are you going
to express your deep and abundant love? How is this
gonna go for you?

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, I'm I'm I'm happy, and I'm surprised. But to
get Coy parts to come to a parentispare event outing
and I'm sure for Gopher fans, you know this is
gonna be a great chance to get to meet him,
get pictures, uh, you know kind of Uh. I was

(12:32):
thinking about this, think about how popular he became with
the fan base of one year.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
He was popular before he came here, before he.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Came because of all the hype and everything. Then to
exceed the hype, right, And what I say from day one, right,
you go back to I've been saying from day one,
you put him on the field wherever we can talk
about I was trying to play catch up here. I
didn't read anything over in Italy, but I saw he's
wearing the half jersey and we're going to see him
on offense.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
We'll talk.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah. Yeah, really cool deal that Derek and Rob were
able to get him through Dicky Town athletes to uh
to show up and make an appearance here.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (13:12):
What do you what do you call it with Burrows
stamp of approval? Is that what it is?

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Seal of approval?

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Seal of approval? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (13:20):
For us for the parents podcast.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
I think it's probably Burns he because he worked with
he worked with I would say Derek and Right, they
get ye.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
No, it is cool, it's awesome. I was because I
knew some players were coming and some other players are
coming as well, Jackson Howard Right is coming as well Burnsy, Uh,
which that's also great, and so it'll be cool. Well,
I mean, what a cool opportunity just to hang out
at jacks with these guys for a while. I mean,
that's what part of the attraction of Dinky Town athletes, right,
the collective is, you know, the Gopher athletes like a

(13:51):
lot of them, like a lot of schools. They get it,
they understand the fans are a big part of this deal.
These are people that are supporting them and they want to,
you know, pay it forward and pay it back, and
so that's gonna be great. That's gonna be very cool.
So bring stuff you want to get signed. You know,
obviously you got your phone, take pictures, like the whole bit.
It's gonna be cool. So I'm really looking forward to
to seeing everybody Saturday at Jack's. If you want to

(14:13):
get in, you want to buy tickets. It starts at
six o'clock. It's on the parent of spare social media channels,
burns you and I'll be tweeting about it again the
next couple of days just to remind people about it.
But this has worked out really well. I know Bill
at Jack's is very pleased with it, and this whole
thing was kind of his idea, right, So this is
if you've never been to Jack's, this is another great
opportunity to just check it out and you'll see what

(14:34):
we've been telling you for three years that it's just
an awesome place to go hang out. And by the way,
it starts at six, go to the bar at five,
go to the bar five and go hang out and
watch TV. That's shoot. I have a birthday party for
a friend of mine. I might be you know, taking
a lift or a carry limo to use another one
of my sponsors down down there a little bit earlier
and just hanging out at the bar for a little while.
But it's a great place to them. You don't have

(14:56):
to wait for us to get there. Go there early,
and you have a couple of drinks beforehand, it'd be great. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
So Coy is gonna get there around six o'clock. So
for those of you who that's going to be the
man attraction and not seeing the bright and shining faces
that is justin garden Chips Coggins or making fun of
my face for podcasting. You're there to meet Coy. Talk
to Coy again. Get there around six. We'll be there
from at least six to six forty five. So come
hang out with us and have a wonderful Jack's Caafe meal.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
All right. You can find the info on how to
buy tickets at the Dinky Town Athletes Twitter handle, at
my Twitter handle, at Burnsey's Twitter handle. It's all good there.
So that's on Saturday night. I did. I got to
mention that on the last flight I took Chip from
San Antonio, it was like six in the morning land
back in Minneapolis at like eight thirty nine whatever it is,
going down the escalator to baggage claim to grab some

(15:45):
stuff actually, just to meet my family who were picking
me up, and the guy and I wish I would
have asked him his name turned around and said, it's
your phone at one hundred percent. I'm like, so popular,
what's it like chip is? And I said, no, it's not.
And you know, I'm on like ninety minutes sleep and
I probably I look probably like I do right now,

(16:06):
a little bit weathered, and I'm just like nope, but
neither am I. I go the phones at like seventy
I didn't even bother to plug it in. I'm just
glad the boarding pass work, everything that went along with that.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Well, it's funny before you get ready to leave, my
wife about a portable charger, right and U we're like
double checking everything, you know, man, make sure checking off
the list. We got everything, and she's like me, give
me buy another a second portable charge. She's a cause,
I know you get nervous when it's below eighty.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
I'm like, you know what, below eighty, I'm gonna do something.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
I'm not gonna look at my phone on this trip
I'm not gonna be on Twitter. I'm not gonna be
so I I I was good, Like I barely pulled
my phone out. I wasn't. I was going to enjoy
my trip and not be consumed whatever's happening back here.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
So well, that's smart. Yeah, I should hope, So I should.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
I didn't even I didn't even need a charger.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
That's good. Congratulations. It was very and how liberated that feel?

Speaker 2 (17:01):
But it did. And I had that sucker plugged in
the whole ten hour flight back from Rome Yesterday's.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
The whole ten hour free charging, free charging.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
And I'm sure you wouldn't even connected to like the
Wi Fi or anything.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Oh, he doesn't even know how to do that. That's
why we when you and I text on when we're
all on the same plane and Chip lands and he's
got forty two text messages from us. That's how it works.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
By the way, one last aside a friend of mine,
This is to Chips. This is one of Chip's worst nightmares.
They went to Mexico for their family spring break. They're
very organized, like Chip is. He discovered the night before
the trip to Mexico that his passport was expired. He
thought that they got at the same time that he
and his wife got it at the same time. Hers
was fine. Apparently his was a couple of years older,

(17:44):
so he was on the sweat. And I also love,
by the way, for any travel people out there, you
can get your passport renewed now and get it in
like eighteen months, or you can just show up there
and say I'm flying today and they'll get it to
you by eleven forty five. It's the dumb it like
Elon must needs to look at this that makes no
sense to me that they terrorize you into thinking you
better get your If you're thinking about traveling in twenty

(18:06):
thirty four, get your passport renewed now, make sure it's good.
But if you've screwed up and you need it quicker, yeah,
next ninety minutes or so, just pay us one hundred dollars.
Tell me how that makes sense to anybody, Because he
said it was just a line, as he called them,
a line of West Metro idiots that had forgotten that
they didn't need to renew their passport, and they were
all there trying to do the spring breakers just so

(18:27):
they could get on spring break. Anyway, I thought of
you when I heard that story, Chip, because I know
that would never happen to you.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
It actually did believe or not that happened to me,
uh like four years Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
It wouldn't happen if he had a planner guard zi.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Yeah, my wife was interviewed in entering our are our
passport stuff into the delta, you know, and she called
me she's uh oh and uh mine didn't Mine was
expiring the next week. Yeah, or it expired the week
before and created they didn't have that thing. I had

(19:02):
to go to downtown Minneapolis and they can get an appointment.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
But this was a Friday. We realized on a Friday.
It was like you can come Monday. And it was
a nightmare.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah. Yeah, I've had I had to do it as well,
not to get it that quickly, you know where I
needed it like within days. Yeah, but just the expedited stuff,
and it just cracks me up because you read it's like, yeah,
you can sign up for it now and hopefully it
shows up in a year and a half and you
need to take your trip or just come on down.
Let us know that you're flying, and we'll make sure
you get your passport. It's a wild system. It's a

(19:33):
wild system, all right. We're nineteen minutes in. We haven't
talked anything anything except about our event at Jacks, which
is important. Let's talk a little bit about spring practice
because Burnsy, you've gotten to go. They're always in the afternoon,
so I can't go, even if I am in town
because of the A job responsibilities. I read your practice
report from I think yesterday. Of course you had to

(19:54):
include a PJ. Fleck cheap shot about, you know, playing
mind games with who the quarterback is going to be
for the Buffalo game. You just can't let it go, Yea,
even on these beautiful spring days. You can't just say
PJ wouldn't say Drake Lindsay's gonna be the starter? You know,
dot dot dot gotta love the mind games for the
media in Buffalo, dot dot dot like you gotta love it,

(20:15):
like he's any different than any other coach. But you
just can't help yourself. But I know that we're all
wondering about Drake Lindsay. I mean that is the headline story, right.
We can talk about a million other things with this team,
and we will, But like last year and like the
year before, and like for every team. The quarterback's an
important piece the Parents Spare podcast has learned. So what

(20:35):
have you gleaned, What have you learned? What have you
seen from the presumptive because I'm not going with it
until PJ tells me he's the starter. Drake Lindsay as
QB one for the Gophers.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
I mean, if reps were any indication on Tuesday, he
is getting about ninety plus percent of the QB one
reps and I think it's deservedly so because you know
how with PJ, he's very I don't I want to
phrase this, especially with younger players. He's not quick to
praise them, you know, doesn't want to heap expectations on them.
But I'll tell you one of the quotes when I

(21:07):
asked him about it after practice was, you know, this
is what he said about Drake, and I quote, he's
playing at a really high level, probably higher than any
young player I've ever had at that position. And you
know how quick that. PJ isn't the one to say,
you know, not give praise when it's not due. And
I agree with him that Drake's playing really well right

(21:27):
now now, really well for red shirt freshman. I think
is the important context within that, I think Drake has
all of the tools to be a very good quarterback. Here,
the decision making and I mean you watch him throw football,
it's very effortless.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
It's fun to watch.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
And that's where even watching Max Brozmer there with him
on Tuesday, and I mean it, they have I'd say
internally they have very high expectations for what Drake can be.
The question is what kent is he going to be
as a red shirt freshman because I think unless something
crazy happens again, I don't really think that Zach Pyrine

(22:03):
or Dylan Wicki or are going to challenge him call
fault come fall camp. And that's where Fleck said it again,
and I think all three of us agree with him.
Jobs are not one in the spring. You just put
yourself in a position fall camp. There's a lot of
time between now and Buffalo. But this thing is Drake
Lindsay's to lose, and I want to make that very clear.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah, I mean, you know you cover enough football practices
that the whole thing is trust what you see, not
what you hear. You guys getting If he's getting all
the first thing reps, he's the first team, right.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Right, right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
I mean, you know, just from the practices I saw
of him last year, he looks like a big ten
quarterback physically in the way he throws the ball. I
mean just he looks like a you can see why
he was highly touted. To me, it just comes back
down to the things that Max Brozmer did so well, processing,
quick decisions, accuracy, managing a game, all those things that

(23:01):
we just you know, you won't know until he gets
thrown into the fire. But in terms of the physical
skill set, yeah, like anybody can see that he has that.
I mean, way when he throws the ball, it's like
you can tell this kid has a ton of just
physical talent. It's just how fast does all the other
stuff come? And I'm sure it's going to be. You know,
when we had Max on the other day, he talked

(23:22):
about the excitement of you know, when he first got
out there and you could tell he was amped up.
And I'm sure the game's going to be flying. Because
they can give him one hundred percent of the reps
through springball and fall camp. You know, it's not gonna
be saying because he's not getting sacked. So when he
gets sped up, when the game gets sped up and
his clock gets sped up. Is he able to slow

(23:43):
down and process uh in the you know, in the
way that he needs to.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Yeah, it's just I think it's very clear he's going
to be the guy. They want him to be the guy.
The reps are telling us that he's going to be
the guy. You know, even the coach speak or players
speak going back over the last six months says he's
going to be the guy. Now he's got to go
earn it in fall camp. I would just tell you that.
I mean, it's fun like he had some throws at

(24:10):
Tuesday's practice where it was like, you couldn't place that
any better in the red zone, or you can't put
that in a better spot, or he's adjusting something at
the line of scrimmage, which for a red shirt freshman
is very difficult to do, even even for NFL quarterbacks,
it's very difficult to do. So I want to be
the high guy in the room on Drake Lindsay and
what he can become. I just think that we all
have to remember in temper expectations that he's still going

(24:32):
to just be a red shirt freshman.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Well, yeah, anytimes the first year starter. It's not going
to be clean, right, There's gonna be hiccups. I'm curious
to see Bernsey. How do you think Harbo will handle
him in terms of what he gives them, in terms
of what he could give Brozemer in terms of responsibility,
and just you know what was it? Was it the
Penn State game where he talked about we had a

(24:55):
million chimps that week. Yeah, I can't imagine it's gonna
be like maybe it is, I don't know, but I'm
just kind of curious to see how he handled because
you're going from a guy who has a ton of
experience to a first year starter. You know, even though
Max was a his experience was at a different level.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Well, that's one of the things I think that both
Greg and Drake are trying to find out. The spring
is Greg is putting a lot on his plate in
terms of what can he handle. Let's start to figure.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
It out, all right, pause right there, because I would
just want to bet with myself. Can everybody see the
word that I just wrote here on YouTube? Plate? Just
when I when I saw Chip's question, I said, well
burnsy say plate. So I just wanted to make sure
that we that we got that that. We got that
written down for the record. You can watch the YouTube
back if you're listening to us on the podcast. So

(25:38):
we got plate. The plate cliche from Burnsy anyway, sorry
to read.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Deepshot, you can take it me is one you're going
to take in this day and age.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Golly, exactly right. I'm in the circle circle it for emphasis.
Plate was brought up there, all right, go ahead, Well.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Let's see if he can finish the vegetables on a
plate before he moves on to the meat and potatoes.
But that is one of the things I think they're
experimenting with, is maybe at one practice you really try
to load him up before practicing Danny Collins's defense is
going to do X, Y and Z. You need to
make the adjustments of the line and see how he does.
I mean, you're gonna be able to watch it back.

(26:17):
But that's one of the things that they're gonna find out.
I mean they're experimenting with a lot this spring. I
mean I saw offensively, one of the packages was a
four tight end package, which we're going back to the wishbone. Baby,
We're going to jumbo jumbo. I mean, they're doing some
different things here this spring. But that is part of
what makes Drake Lindsay Drake Lindsay is he's very smart

(26:39):
and from all indications and from the things we've been
told that he can handle a lot of the things
that younger quarterbacks of yester year cannot handle in terms
of mental processing.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Do you think he'll be the past to set up
the run?

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Philas Vegan, Well, that's where it gets interesting. Is even
just kind of getting to know this twenty twenty five
team a little bit more. I think they're going to
run the football more because I have If you're talking
about the three fastest of the game, offense, defense, and
special teams, I have many more questions about the defense,
and I have many more questions about special teams than

(27:13):
I do offense. And that's where if the defense isn't
going to be as good. And that's not a shot
at Danny Collins, I just think that's kind of the
reality of how top heavy they are at spots on defense.
You're gonna want to play ball control at times, and
they're gonna want to try to hide the defense maybe
a little bit more than they did last year.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Well, and I would think too much like we're seeing
with the Vikings with JJ McCarthy. You want to build
that infrastructure around here in quarterback, I mean they have
nineteen running backs on scholarship. Now, I mean there's some
I would think there's some idea about, hey have a

(27:51):
pair and of spare and the spare and the spare
in the spair because we're going to run the ball
and we're going to be put Drake in the best
possible position to excel where it's you know, I you
can tell me about the Lions. I was looking at
your depth chart on your on your thing, Bersey. I mean,
there's some new faces there and we'll see how that

(28:11):
that group comes together. But that's the key to it, right,
I mean, look at what the Vikings did. They went
on got free agents. I mean you look at what
these guys are doing. They have some new guys on
their offensive line. How good is that you going to
be so that Drake is you know, gives him the best, uh,
the best opportunity to you know, play well.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
And that's one of the questions I'm trying to figure
out myself, because you got five brand new bodies up there,
with Greg Johnson moving a guard, you have Ashton Beers
now at center, and then you got likely three transfers
filling in at right tackle, right guard, and we'll see
who wins left tackle between Khalie Defie and Nathan Roy,
the highly towdy kid from Wisconsin. I think they're more
athletic than they were last year up front, because I

(28:54):
think they were limited athletically, and that's even with the
top sixty draft pick at left tackle. So I think
that's going to be one of the things you're going
to see Harbo kind of go to more, especially with
aj Turner, who is the addition from Marshall, who is
a very dynamic player, is trying to get things going
east west a little bit more on that outside zone

(29:15):
because they're more athletic and they can cover more ground. Now,
is that going to mean they're running games more consistent?
I have no idea at the stage. I tell you
they're trying a lot of different things here this spring
with the run game that we didn't see last year,
with you know, maybe some more pulling, some more zone,
some more, just different formations trying to figure out what

(29:36):
is this twenty twenty five offense good at, because we
know what they weren't good at. In twenty four, which
is a consistent run game, and some different things they
tried there. So I'll give Harbo credit. But the two
practices I've been at, which again is only two, I
have I think ten now. I mean I've seen different
things in the run game that they're trying, which tells
me they know in our acknowledging.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
It was an issue last year.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
It was interesting reading your the depth chart and this
is you know nothing, you know, breaking news. But in
the world of the portal, it's like there's a lot
of new faces, a lot of new names. All this
like who's the I don't even know this team. I mean,
I mean that's how college sports are. I mean, they
changed pretty fundamentally from one season to the next. But

(30:18):
if if you know, for me, I'm not in the
day to day ingrained as you are. Bernsdy and I
looked at it's like, oh my gosh, this team it's
not a complete page turner because you have you know,
Darius Taylor and Coy and some familiar names. They're stars.
But the two D there's a lot of new faces
on here.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Yeah, especially defensively, it's you're always looking at your roster
because you're looking at that corner out there, number five
and you're like, Nope, that's not just right. Yeah, there's
a lot of new face in US, and it's it's
for especially for someone like Danny Collins. Where you lose
Cody Lennenberg, you lose Justin Wallly, you lose John Joyner,

(30:57):
Danny stragg Out. I mean you're replacing something long starters,
and you're seeing them try a lot of different things.
And that's where as much as we heard last year
about the word versatility, which is one that you should
have written down there guards if you knew I was
going to be talking about the defense good, they are
leaning into it even more. When we talked to Danny

(31:18):
and when we talked to Fleck on Tuesdays, trying to
get everybody, all of their best players.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
On the field.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
And one example would be, so say the boy wonder
for Mesco, Coy Perritch, but then you also have to
figure out a way to get Carry Brown and Aiden
Gooseby on the field. So I think you'll see Coy
potentially playing in the slot at times, You'll see Carry
in the slot at times, You'll see them do some
different things because that's the goal at the end of
the day is try to get your best eleven players
onto the field, and they have some questions. I would

(31:47):
say a corner yet where I've never seen And this
is going to be my fifteenth year. This is year
fifteen for us, right, I think?

Speaker 1 (31:55):
So, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Can't remember a spring practice now.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Again.

Speaker 3 (31:59):
My memory is used to be at my age, where
I've seen so many different corner combinations because you lost
Ethan Robinson, you lost Justin Wally, and they're trying to
figure it out there. I mean I've seen seven different
corners I would say playing with the ones, so they
are they're experimenting quite a bit there is that is
a very inexperienced position.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Well, you think because there's another round of portal, right,
you think we'll see some additions through once you get
through springbollb figure out what they need where they're short
at positions.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Yeah, I mean we'll talk about it here a little
bit when we get to the house stuff, because that's there.
I would tell you from talking with some people over
there on Tuesday when I was there, they want to
know if the one oh five is going to be
a thing. But if I was the University of Minnesota
and they don't listen to me, and they'll they'll tell
you they don't listen to me. I would add another
defensive tackle and I would add another rush end. I

(32:52):
think that would be the two clear priorities for me,
which with whatever nil revshare budget I have left if
i'm then and then figure it out from there. But
I would attack things on the defensive line a little
bit more. Go ahead, Chipper, No, I can tell you
got one more quizzical thing.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Well no, well, yeah, you mentioned, and we could get
into the house. The roster limits is not a not
a done deal.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Thing not done yet mostly and we can transition it
if you want, because they just had. When I was
in San Antonio, everybody was talking about Monday as a
big day because Judge Wilkin in Oakland was going to
maybe approve this settlement to let everything go now and
people can start getting paid in July and the whole bit.

(33:39):
She wants to approve it. She says, I think it's
a very good settlement, and I think come this Monday,
everybody's reconvening again with maybe some amendments, maybe a couple
of tweeks. This might be something that we talk about
on Saturday at the parents Spare event and Jack's. But
one of the things she's concerned about or wants to
see more thought put into, is the roster limits that

(34:01):
we're talking about, the one hundred and five roster limits.
And I'm trying my best to understand it. Burns, you
might understand it better than me. Let's just keep it
to football. The roster limit is one hundred and five'sposal.
That's the proposal, and you can fully fund that with scholarships.
Every sport under this proposed settlement has a roster limit.

(34:21):
They used to have scholarship limits that were all you know,
Title nine related to where if you had to have
equal amount of scholarships for men and women. Now you
just have these roster limits where you can have as
many people as you want on a team, but essentially
you have to have a scholarship for them. Is kind
of the way that it seems like it's going to be.
So a lot of schools are doing what they're saying, well,

(34:42):
we're gonna do one hundred and five football scholarships, but
if we had thirty for track and across country, let's
just say cross country, We're gonna dumb that down to
seventeen or eighteen. We're going to eliminate spots, and that
includes people that are already on the team. So what
the judge is trying to figure out is there a
way to grandfather the people that are already on a
roster somewhere, so we're not just eliminating their spot theoretically

(35:04):
right now. And because a lot of you know, Olympic
sports like I played, Oh good for me, have seen
their rosters cut a little bit, and those athletes are
going to these hearings and going you're taking away our spots.
You're taking away our opportunity, and we might not have
any other place to go.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
But I've read reports where schools are adding roster spots
in other sports in those Olympic sports, like swing up
in some I don't know many football programs. We're gonna
go up to one o five. I haven't seen it.
Oh really, I think a lot of them are going
to stay in eighty five because it's I mean for

(35:40):
the Gophers to go from eighty five to one o five.
So you're twenty twenty scholarships. Here's my Tennessee math again.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yep, let's say what.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Do they pay thirty thousand for a scholarship twenty five,
I mean, you know, on average, because it's a little
more than that. Yeah, because most of them are come
from out of state. So let's say thirty five. That
adds up pretty quick. I mean, that's that's a big expense.
So I would be surprised if a lot of schools
do that. I've seen them add in inother sports.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
Yeah. So the question that Minnesota has and everybody has
is are these roster limits that I believe were going
to be imposed? I think August one was the day
you were going to have to be at or under
the one oh five for football specifically, are those going
to be in effect? And the thing that Minnesota and
all these schools are running into is the transfer portal

(36:34):
opens again next week, about eight days it opens, where
you have to put your name into the portal by
then or else you're going to be on your team.
So is Minnesota and every other Big ten school going
to have to start, you know, quote unquote cutting guys
to an extent to get underneath the one oh five
because you've also got all the high school kids coming
in in June. Plus you're gonna want to add probably

(36:55):
three to five transfers from the portal. Well, if the
judge continues to him and not really give them an answer.
I don't know what schools like Minnesota are gonna do
because you don't have an unlimited, say nil roster like Tennessee,
Like you have to know how your money is going
to be spent as you're renegotiating some of these rep

(37:16):
share deals are rev share? Is that even a thing?
Is it going to be a thing this year? And
I think the other part of it too is even
with these roster limits, is she's talking about grandfathering and
these these athletes, which I get to an extent. But
then the other part of it that is interesting, Chip,
is she talked about on Monday she might want to

(37:38):
revisit this every year, which can you imagine trying to
revisit this complicated, complex issue every single year with it'd
be a mess.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
If your grandfather me in, how are you gonna get
one five?

Speaker 3 (37:53):
I don't know what's more exasperated, Chip learning about this
right now? Or is phone dropping a seventy nine percent?

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Yeah, I'm it doesn't seem like it adds up, And
especially if you did it every year, I can't imagine
anybody would be in a favor of that.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
No, I mean I think the grandfathering in part. You
would just basically let all the people that are on
rosters run their course, you know what I mean, Like say,
it would be someone would have to monitor it, someone
would have to watch it. But if you have one
hundred and ten this year, you've got five seniors, you
know obviously you're gonna have twenty, you know, the let
the people that have been part of your program. You know,

(38:29):
it'd be really a four year deal, right to let
people run off eventually, and then in four years you
could say we're doing this at one oh five. That
mean that's just thinking about it on the fly, which
is very dangerous. I'm probably missing something and forgetting something.
But I think there's a way theoretically they could figure
it out. But do they want to?

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Somebody asked me this why I was on where I
went on vacation? Who is the NCAA so each school
will assume it goes through the REP share twenty and
a half million dollars, Who's going to make sure everybody's
staying at twenty and a half million dollars?

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Well, that's where with the revshare amount. And that was
also part of the thing that was of intrigue last
week was a lot of these basketball deals with the
transfer portal and everything. A lot of them thought that
she was going to approve the repshare amount, which if
she did, then all of the deals over six hundred
dollars via nil exclusively would have to go through the clearinghouse,

(39:25):
which I believe is partnering with Deloitte, Yeah, to kind
of make sure it's it's an actual deal of some
kind and it's not just the Tennessee boosters putting money
into McDonald's bag and giving it to a running back
of some kind. Like there has to be validity to
some things. Now, all of these schools will then entail

(39:45):
have to report their numbers to the NCAA. And I
think Deloitte is again the company technically overseeing all of this,
but because she did not issue a ruling, that's why
I think you've even seen with the basketball portal here
deals are deal. I mean some schools, I mean Minnesota here,
what do they have four transfers now?

Speaker 1 (40:05):
I think it's four? Yeah, after yesterday, I would tell you.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Like the high money guys in the portal, the guys
that outside of say Kai and Evans who got life
changing money to go to North Carolina, which good for him,
but these life changing money deals aren't happening as much
because all these agents are still in a blink in
a steering match, with these institutions saying well, we want

(40:28):
one point five and the schools are coming back and
saying well we want. We think you're valued at around
seven hundred and fifty thousand to a million dollars. Well,
until they're both sides are incentivized to move, knowing that,
say on Monday, when the judge issues the ruling, saying okay,
well when this thing comes down on Thursday, then every
deal is going to be over six hundred bucks is

(40:49):
going to be essentially scrutinized. I mean, there's not an incentive,
not a lot of incentive right now, but I would
tell you, especially with the football portal kicking off next week,
there are so many schools waiting to see if she's
going to approve this, because then revshare gets put into place,
then they know if they have roster limits or not.
I mean, there's a lot of ambiguity about this. I
just think as much as it is the grandfathering in

(41:12):
the one oh five, which sure, I it's just gonna
sound very like a pole ad pocket protectress, which I'm
certainly not one of those people. I would say for
these kids saying I want to have a spot there,
I mean, sure, but you can just go to the
Northern Sun, or you can just go to the Missouri
Valley for a school like Minnesota. You don't think the

(41:33):
Dakotas would love to have Gopher athletes or Augustana, Saint Cloud, Minnesota, Duluth, Mancato.
I mean that's where there will be a trickle down
effect from Big ten caliber athletes or the you know,
the guys that maybe aren't Big ten caliber athletes. Well,
guess what, they get to go to the northern son
of the Missouri Valley and then or even down to

(41:54):
the mayak.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
And they can always come back.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Yeah, yeah, going it back after you go ahead American season.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Well, to your point about the kind of waiting, it
will until you know the rules of engagement, it's hard
to really do anything concrete right because you don't you're
not gonna commit to anything that you don't know what
you're committing to. But I to the second point, I've
talked to a number of UH coaches here in the state,

(42:24):
at the you know, Division two, Division three level. They
absolutely think there's gonna be a trickle down effect because
of the roster limits. And they're like, guys that were
on Big ten rosters are now going to be playing
for us, and that's gonna they think the third quality
of caliber of players they're gonna be able to get
is gonna increase too. And you know what, and and

(42:44):
you look at the North Sun that's really good football.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
When you go watch really good basketball, really.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Good basketball, I mean particularly, I mean you can look
at some of the numbers, like the quarterbacks are putting
up in that league. Yeah, it's it's uh, they're guys
playing at think that could be Division one for sure.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Yeah, And I would say I hope it does get
some trickle down because everything else recently has been trickle
up for these lower level programs, you know, mid major,
Division one, I mean every like talking to coaches again
in San Antonio, you know, you talk to a guy
that's working at a low major, tells me about the
freshman that he recruited that nobody wanted. He comes in.

(43:22):
Guy averages nineteen points a game. In his league as
a freshman, he's like, he's not here anymore. That's trickling up.
So it'd be nice if something kind of trickled down,
because we said a million times you need all these programs,
you know, if you want to have leagues and tournaments
and things like that. I'd be fine if some things
actually worked to the advantage of other opportunities where you're
not dealing with the one percent of one percent, you know,

(43:45):
life changing money type deals where it is. Because I
still am believe it or not a romantic about the
college sport experience. Yes, I still think Williams Williams Arena.
We're not talking about Williams.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
We're not going there.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
We've won a guy like fifteen minutes left. We're not
going to derail Williams Arena. Yeah, but I know a
lot of basketball coaches were talking about what you were
talking about, Burnsy, that the clearinghouse deal and everything's going
to be scrutinized, and a lot of big name basketball
coaches were like, well, good luck, everyone's just gonna cheat
now again, that's not going to happen. There's a million problems.
And Mark Coyle, in my conversation with them. I brought
that up, and I thought he was pretty forceful. I

(44:20):
don't know if you heard that part, Burnsy, but he
basically said, at some point we got to try some
stuff here, guys, can we try some stuff and try
it and if it doesn't work, we'll change it. That
was at the end of the conversation. Because if we've
learned anything in the last five years in sports from
covid on, you can change anything you want to change. Like,
you don't have to be a glacial movement anymore. If

(44:40):
something's not working, change it the next year. Why not
try to be nimble, But you do at some point
have to go, here's what we're trying, and we're going
to move forward with it. If it doesn't work, we'll
try to change it. Because they're changing so much at once.
Of course, none of this is going to be perfect
right out at the gate.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yeah, you know, it's funny. I've heard Cole say this
a couple of times. I mentioned again at Nico's introductory
pres conference when you're talking to him, and he said,
I'm almost possibly said, we're one of a handful of
schools that do this, and I give I give mensin
of credit. You know, we we've bashed the n i L.
And they're behind and all this, which I don't I
don't buy anymore. With football basketball, they were you know,

(45:20):
he said behind in in I own football. Yeah no,
they're not when the big hitters. But I don't think
they're like behind.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
We splitting hairs here, we're splitting hairs. I understand what
you're saying. It's not a tragic situation anymore.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
It's not tragedy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I always say they
can always be there's always be more. But I don't
think it's they kept Coy Parritch and all these guys.
They're not losing players like they were before. But he's
he said that, he said, this is not getting you know,
enough tensions. I'll mention it here that he said they
honor it like at Minnesota, they will not put out
an n i L deal if they don't have the

(45:55):
money to do it. And whereas they're not making false
promises where we've seen all these situ suations where kids, hey,
come here and we're gonna give you a million dollars
and you show up and they're not getting paid. So
I think you know, there's something you said about that
that they're honoring what they say versus just making empty
sales pitches to try to get talent here and then
they will figure it out when you get here. That's

(46:17):
a bad way to operate.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Yeah, there are absolutely ACC and Big twelve schools that
have signed players that the Gophers were looking at, both
in basketball and in football, to these deals and then
they didn't get paid on them. I mean, I've heard
of certain ACC schools specifically that are literally their nil
collectives are operating on a month to month basis, which

(46:42):
is insane, Like that is no way to run a business. Now,
I'm not an entrepreneur, I don't know anything about that,
but that seems like bad business to me.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
Well, hold on, were any of those teams in the
playoff or the NCAA tournament, Because I might do it
that way if.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
I might try it, teems actually end up making it
at the very end.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Oh yeah, I guess after the school maybe they have
the money now.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
But I think chips point is I think Minnesota is
hoping that agents now know that Minnesota pays on their deals,
Whereas if they're competing against some of these schools that
have a history of not paying full on what they
promised that they won't go back to them. Now again,
those are the schools also offering a larger amount more
times than not. Sure it's more risk, more reward for

(47:29):
those types of guys, but yes, that is one of
the things that I think Minnesota really wants to stress
is they pay on their deals. Like if they tell
you there's an amount coming, you're getting paid one hundred
percent of the time, whereas maybe at some other schools
you're hoping to get seventy five percent of that. It's
a wild West where even us discussing that it is

(47:50):
just like an insane proposition.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Yeah, it was fun again to be at the Like
every coach that came to talk to me, and I
talked to Greg Guard, Brad Under, would you know Power
five guys and then you know low major guys, Division
two guys, Matt Margan Taylor Minnesota State.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
You're a man of the people, You're a man of everyone.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
John Tower, Chips guy. Johnny Tower had a great conversation
with him. That was a lot of fun as they're
like crossing paths, you know, and doing the bro hugs
and talking to each other. Literally all they talk about
is the portal. They just go. How's the portal? I mean,
Greg Guard's talking to me, by the way, I told him.
If people didn't hear it, I told him, we're taking
Lakeville back. To his face, I said, first of all,
I asked him, I said, what's your favorite restaurant in Lakeville?

(48:31):
That's how I am. That's awesome my question. And he
said culvers And I'm like, of course it's Culver's. There
was Johnson Company. You can't even do dairy queen, can't
even give a Minnesota company a couple of year bucks.
Greg Guard, He's like Culver's. I said, we're taking it back.
We've had enough of it. And credit to him, he
didn't miss a beat. And this was my favorite, maybe
my favorite part of the weekend. He said, that's all right,

(48:52):
I'll go to Wisetta and Crete and hang out with
those guys for a while. That's just good stuff. That's
good back and forth right there.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
That's high quality of material.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
But I'm talking to Great Guard about Culver's, and like
ten minutes later, I'm looking on Twitter and Wisconsin's got
a commitment out of the portal. Like I'm sure he
knew about it before he sat down, but like that's
how this stuff is going. He's there with his wife,
you know, at the final four in San Antonio and
they're all you know, Brad Underwood literally shook a guy's
hand and said, how's Portal Life treating you?

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (49:22):
And that was it. I mean, it's crazy you.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Mentioned Johnny Tower. You know, Land might have been while
still there. You know, he loses Kendle Blue, and you know,
Kendle Blue's family friend. I love his mom, Lisa, We're
good friends. And east Ridge kidd, I mean, he's there,
you know, helps get that program off the ground at
Division one three years and now he's at Nebraska and
I'm sure, I'm sure he's got a nice Yeah, I

(49:47):
know revshare package and you know, I hope he does well.
But that's those the mid majors right now. With Rev.
Sharon coming in, I think would be a really tough
place to be, even more so than it even was
before with the portal. Now, when you add a share
a component to it is if you get a kid

(50:09):
that's a good player, you're probably gonna lose.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Them, right right. But I like most coaches kind of understand.
They're saying we can do the same things we did
before it goes, but it's gonna be in a year
now or maybe two if we're lucky at the mid
major level. That was kind of the theme I got
from all of them. We're gonna do our best with
the guys that we have. We're gonna still try to
find the right fits. We're gonna still do what we've
done our whole career. And I guess in a way,

(50:36):
they're like, our job in a way is to help
find them the next opportunity where they can go. Yeah.
I mean literally, that's kind of how some of them
framed it, like we're gonna do the best, hope that
we do the best for them, they do the best
for us, and if they have an opportunity to go
change their life, which I mean, imagine being twenty years
old and just getting let's just say, one hundred thousand
dollars and at a lot of these places. You got

(50:57):
your food, you got your scholarship, you got your education.
Like I mean that that can set you up for
life if you do it the right way. It's so
there's not a lot of bad blood in it that
I know this here as much as the last couple
of years, I think people kind of understand the deal.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Well, that's the thing. I mean when all this first
started initially, you know, I think the reaction is like,
come on, where's your loyalty? Where are you know? They
took it? And then if you stop and think, okay,
let me put myself in that person's shoes, totally, i
would have been out the door in five seconds.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
I'd be in the portal. Every year.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
If somebody's gonna pay me five hundred seven hundred million dollars,
you think you're not gonna go, come on, you know
it's true. You're gonna take the money.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
You are, It's true. Any other headlines or highlights thanks
for promoting the Mark Coyle podcast on Go for It?
Yeah it was that.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
What was any any major headline from the cool Things?

Speaker 1 (51:48):
You listened to it? And this was Burnsy's quote, uh
Chipper on his message board it was actually insightful, which
I'm gonna put on all right, I'm gonna put that.
I'm gonna put that on my tombstone interview.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
The oblivion here.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
It was actually insightful.

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Actually is such a powerful word in look.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
I loved it.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
Mark Coyle is many things, but doing public facing interviews,
especially press conferences is tough for him because he comes
off as I think, robotic, and it seems very vanilla,
and he's not always the best with his words. And
that's where I'll give guards the credit. And then again
he actually give me credit. Actually give me credit. The

(52:33):
rapport you have with Coyle actually makes him kind of
turn it down a little bit in terms of he
feels obviously comfortable with you, which then he'll be able
to crack jokes, he's able to give you insight, he's
able to kind of just be a human being like
the rest of us and make us feel like we
can empathize with what the University of Minnesota is going through.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Now.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
Again, nobody is throwing Mark Coyle at pity party, But
to hear Coyle talk about how you know they have
to run a balanced budget every year, whereas Illinois is
I think like two hundred million in debt with different things, and.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
He rattled off about four schools. Yeah, because I brought
up the Ohio state thing that we talked about when
Jean Smith basically said, oh yeah, I left the last
guy forty million dollars in the red. We had to
win football before I got it. I'm like when you
hear that, Mark, what what do you say? And that's
why he likes me. I brought that up. It's like,

(53:31):
thank you for bringing that up. I think it's good
you bring that up, which, by the way, is true,
like that is who you're competing against, whether you like
it or not. But yeah, Chip, he had he had
the receipts from about four or five other schools don't
exactly have the same mandate that he's charged.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Well, he brings that up. Anytime there's a mandate from
the border regions, you operate a balanced budget. So he's
not going in debt to pay revenue share.

Speaker 3 (53:56):
Right, And that's where it'll be interesting to see if
and when it does come out how Minnesota is combating
this because some of it is going to be the
increased media rights deal. But I don't think that they're
going to be getting now, Chip, you can correct me
if you think my sources are wrong. I mean, I've
talked with some people within the athletic department here in
the last month. I don't think they're anticipating more than

(54:17):
like an eight to ten million dollars boost from year
over year and media rights money.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't think it's much
north to ten million burns. Well hint hints, hints why
they're trying to renames Williams Arena. I mean, I think
they're looking at every possible scenario. I don't think, and
I could be I could be wrong about this. You
know I've done reporting. I don't think eliminating sports is
going to be the.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Way I able to agree they want. I don't think
they want to. And you and you can't get yourself
there that you can't.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Cut your way to that number. Now you're not having
to cut yourself to twenty because you're getting the revenue shared.
But but I think the Williams Arena naming rights is
a sign of hey, they got to try to some
different things to raise revenue.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
Makes a lot of sense, even if you can get
say a million, million and a half a year from whoever.
To call it justin Guard's Court at Williams Arena again.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
I would do it. If I won the Powerball or
Mega millions, it would be the Guard Family Court at
Williams Arena. I would do that hard power right there,
and I'd bring my ninety seven Final four video that
you guys all saw back here.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Yeah, and again it goes back to the whole thing
of making a coach and change in basketball. They could
not continue to have eight thousand people at Williams Arena
for basketball games.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Well they would like eight thousand. Well yeah, that's talking five.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
But for the year they averaged eight thousand, that's not
going to work. They need it to be at twelve thousand.
I mean, that is a big difference financially, like I
said last time, because not just tickets sold, but signage,
all those things that go into it. Mark. I mean, so.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
That additional say two and a half million, say, if
you were to go from eight thousand to twelve thousand consistently,
would go so far for a school that, as we've
spent time talking about here, has to run a balanced
budget and if you don't want to cut sports, that
is going to be the avenue, which is what obviously
Coyle is exploring.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Yeah, all right, well let's wrap it up here and
remind everybody I got one announcement at the end that
we need to make. I have to do it. We
have to do. You have your planner right next to you, Chip,
I do. Okay, go get get your planner out, because
you got to look at something here in a minute,
open it up. Jack's Cafe on Saturday, April. I need
you to look at April. But just hold on to Sapril.
Jack's Cafe on Saturday. Yeah, chow, it's April.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
Where are you are?

Speaker 1 (56:32):
I think it would Berry Jack's Cafe on Saturday. You
can still get tickets. Coy Parrits is going to be there.
Jackson Howard's going to be there, some other guys are
going to be there. Actually, I know some parents of
other student athletes are going to be there. So it's
going to be a good group. And we're I'm overwhelmed
by the ticket sales that we've had already, but we'd
love to have you join us at Jackson Saturday. It

(56:52):
starts at six. You can get there before go have
a drink in the bar. I don't know why you wouldn't.
And we'll be there hanging out. The Dickeyton athletes co
founders will be there as well. Should be a good
group of parent of Spear fans, Gopher fans, the whole bit.
We would love to see you on Saturday. I'm really
excited to see you there and parent of Spare podcast
Twitter handle my handle Burnsey's handle thinking on athletes handle.

(57:15):
Very easy, you click a link, you buy your ticket,
We'll see you on Saturday. Parking as we know. Very easy, right, Chip,
Extremely easy to get down there.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
One of the best things about it You.

Speaker 1 (57:24):
Get to play dinner, right, I mean you're getting food
out of the deal. That's the beauty of it too.
You get to eat at Jack's, which is great. Anything
else you want to say about that before we do
a quick calendar check.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
No, I think the meal. I wish I had the
menu on the top of my head. But Bill Sennett
and it's fabulous, right, I mean it's I think you
get a wine poor, you get an entre des gonna be.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
It's gonna be great.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
It's well, it's Bill, It's it's Jackson's.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
Gonna want to just had his dad's birthday there. I
think his dad's eighty ninth birthday. I want to say.
I saw that on Twitter. So they had the you know,
the match books and everything you'll see. If you've never
been to Jack's, it's just an easy way to just
get you to jack so you can see why we
all love going there so much. It's so cool and
so classy. So that's on Saturday. Get your tickets. We'll
see you there in a couple of days. All right, Thursday,

(58:10):
a week from today, April seventeenth. Are you clear, Chip,
You're gonna need to be You're gonna need to be clear.
I don't see anything on it, okay in the nine
o'clock hour, Burns, Are you clear? I should ask you?
I know you're clear. You want to go ask Liz.
I want to ask your cat if you have anything
on April seventeenth.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
I think we should be good.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
All right. I can't give the entire announcement away, but
I am ninety percent certain. One week from today it
is episode number one hundred of the Parentis Fair Podcast
will be So next Thursday, we're not going to take
a week off. Next Thursday, April seventeenth, we will be
recording the one hundredth episode of the Parentispare podcast. Which

(58:53):
seems ridiculous. It is that we've already done one hundred
of these. Start your day at a hundred percent. We
will have have an extremely special guest. I feel comfortable
saying that we will have for episode one hundred an
extremely special guest. If it doesn't happen next Thursday. It's
gonna happen. I just want to get that in people's category.

(59:15):
You know what, I'm just gonna say it. If it
doesn't happen next Thursday, it's gonna happen at some point.
The first voice you hear on this podcast, the head
coach of Gopher football, PJ Fleck, will be joining the
Parentis Spare podcast forever. Oh wow, it's to be. It's
got to be somebody big, right, It's got to be
the head coach. So while this episode was going on,

(59:38):
I was kind of firming up some details there. We
think it's gonna be next week. If it's not, it's
gonna happen at some point and we can do episode
one hundred whenever we want. Right, it could be we
could say we're going to await for PJ. It's gonna
be June, like well, Bill might not like it, but
uh but anyway, we expect we expect it to be
next week. If it's not, because things come up, the

(59:58):
portals open right next week, so that that's craziness. But
the head coach will be our special guest for episode
number I assume you guys are okay with that. I
kind of went rogue. I kind of went rogue on
on my podcast partners. I assume you're okay with the
head coach, PJ. Fleck, Burnsy, I'm gonna let let you
air out all your grievances.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
I'm gonna be a It's gonna be a back and
forth between them.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
I'm gonna say, Coach Ryan wants more availability, Coach, can
Ryan watch a little bit more practice? Coach can you
just give Ryan one injury update on one of those
Monday conferences? So if you want to be a part
of that, Burnsy, come on back for episode one. But
we think it's gonna be next week. If it's not,
he's agreed to join us. I've worked with all the
proper people to do it the right way, and so

(01:00:41):
I think that'll be pretty cool, don't you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
I'm excited when we uh. When we threw out the
idea of having guests on and off season, I said,
let's see the last PG. What's the worst genna happen?
He says, no, Okay, he said, yes, right.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
Or it'll get done. I don't know if gotten to
him yet, but it's gotten done.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Yeah, And you know it'd be awesome to have him
on here, and and and a hundred episodes. It's gonna
be emotional, like we we I think back to our
luncheon at over there by Kafan where you had this
little brain child and you came up with the the
best name ever for this podcast, just like Dad Guards,

(01:01:23):
he's quick with.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
It's been my only value to date on the podcast
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Like, that'll be fun if we if we get PG
on here, that'll be fun.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Yeah, we will at some point I want, but I
do want to give people the heads up. We think
it's gonna be next week, and if it's not, it's
something fell through. We're not Burns. You'll be mad about
it because he has to. But the rest of us
don't live in a world where we wake up angry, yeah,
looking for grievances.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
Oh, you're gonna make me just get up and leave.
This has been a lot of gas lighting.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Today for me. All Right, we will see you and
make sure you see what's on Burnsy's plate when you
go to Jack's Cafe on Saturday. We'll see if Birnsy
can finish everything on his plate. Thanks everybody for listening
for real, Please download, please subscribe to the YouTube channel
We're going to continue to grow this thing as well,
and we hope to see all of you at Jack's
Cafe on Saturday night. Thanks everybody, We will see you Saturday,

(01:02:12):
and we will talk to you next week, hopefully with
head coach PJ. Fleck on the parentis Bear podcast