Two Weeks Out! Darius Taylor Injury, Look at Iowa and Wisconsin

Chip Scoggins, Ryan Burns and Justin Gaard celebrate the fact that we are two weeks away from football! The guys try to figure out why Burnsie is so salty for his age, discuss the ramifications of a possible Darius Taylor injury and take a look at some Camp storylines out of Iowa and Wisconsin. Thanks as always to Jax Cafe in Minneapolis! 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Glenn Mason said a long time ago at the University
of Minnesota.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
You need a pair and a spare.

Speaker 3 (00:04):
Thank you, PJ. It is time for another edition of
the Pair and a Spare podcast. We've got Chipskogins from
the Star Tribune, Ryan Burns from Gopher Illustrated dot Com.
I'm justin guard from the fan, and we are two
weeks away, boys from as we record this now, two
weeks from tonight, at least a couple of us will
be at Huntington Banks Stadium as the Gophers open the

(00:25):
twenty twenty four campaign against the University of North Carolina.
Hard to believe, bar Fellis State Fair starts one week
from today in Minnesota. But you can start, at least
start to feel it a little bit, can't you, Burnsy
You can.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
There's finally a little bit of a crisp in the
air this morning, with that weatherfront that came through. It
feels a little bit like fall, feels a little bit
like football's around the corner.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
Now.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Hopefully the college sports teams don't fall off a precipitous
kipper like we've seen the injury gods come down on
the pro sports teams.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
But we're almost there.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Yeah, I can't wait. I'll be there. I'll be there
opening night.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
You can confirm.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
I can confirm I will be there.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
Projects I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
If you had a mister project thing, that.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Project.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
If you see a chip in an American somewhere across
the Upper Midwest, just know that he's working on something.
If you've got something, if you've got a person that
he's got a sory in your town, he's working on something,
you know what.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I do like I do like, I do like that
Thursday night game, that traditional Thursday night game.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
To me, people don't like it. I love it. Anything
I like the Friday games. Get your weekends back, Yeah
I do. Fans don't like him. But for people that
have work, like yeah, well they like the Saturday. They're traditionalists.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, for that first one. I mean obviously, once you
get into the season, I want Saturdays. But I don't know,
I can you know, I'm never really going to root
for a night game just for deadline and selfish purposes.
But but it's now it's become of a tradition that
I look forward to that first Thursday and it kicks
it off, and then you got the weekend to watch
some games, so I'm excited for it.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
All right, Burnsy, I have to start with are you okay?
Are you doing all right? Are you fine?

Speaker 4 (02:15):
I'm scared to know.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Well, I've texted you about this, but this is I
printed it out because I'm old school like Chip. Anybody
watching on the this is the Gopher Illustrated dot com
football practice report from August thirteenth, from a couple of
days ago. We're going to talk about the news obviously
that you know in the last practice open to the media.

(02:36):
I'm sure, much to PJ flex chagrin.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
We're never going to see another practice, the future of
the offense when you were at another the.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Future of the offense, in the future of the program.
Darius Taylor misses half of it with an apparent leg injury,
and now we'll we'll well, you know what we're gonna
do next week, We're going to talk to PJ. Yep,
Darius is fine. Day to day. We'll see, we know,
But Chipper, I'm reading Burnsy's practice. It was a beautiful
day out there on Tuesday. I got to the Lake
of the Woods low Gate flawlessly. Everybody that when I

(03:08):
walked in said, hey, did you find the right gate.
I said, yes, thank you. So I'm reading it injury report. Okay,
shape two weeks of camp. Okay, Aiden goosebye. Daniel Jackson
wasn't dressed. Here's paragraph one where I'm worried about burnsy
oh boy. I'd also note that running back Darius Taylor
left practice today and didn't return. He was running the
pass route and came up limp on his left leg.

(03:30):
After spending some time on the ground, he moved off
to the side and then had ice on his left
hamstring area for fifteen to thirty minutes. It was removed
toward the end of practice and he remained with the team.
Fleck didn't seem to be too concerned about it, but
he's not exactly a reliable narrator for injuries. They're salt
number one. So then I'm reading, you know, all right,
hold hold on? Should stop there.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, let's start with that statement there, because you two
have more experience with the pro.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Sports teams than I certainly do.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah. PJ.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Fleck has to be about the worst narrator about injuries
that I can remember.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, I don't you know anything that he opines on
regarding injuries. I take with a grain of salt.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Well, last week he talked about excuse me, Daniel Jackson.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
He was like, yeah, Dan, you'll.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Be fine, and then he doesn't practice the next seven
days later, and so Andy Greider, friend of the podcast Pioneer, pressed,
it's like, so has he practiced? And Flex's like, no, no,
he has, but he's been working, Like.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
Oh, why did you say that?

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Just you know this.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
You always say I hear what you say. You trust
what I do. Like Kevin O'Connell gets around it because
he always is like, h I'm gonna update you guys.
I'm gonna keep you going. And the NFL is different.
They have to like NFL has to be honest about injuries.
So I'm like college does not. We're about to get
ready for next week. It'll be uh, we'll get the
status report. What what Paul? Two hours before the game.

(04:56):
Then he'll look over like this, he'll look over nack
or ge. Yeah, what about two hours before the game?
Big ten status? Yeah, it'll come out then, like just
get used to just accept it. That's what it is.
A lot of them are like that. Northwestern was the
only one I ever remember that actually did when Fitz
was there, they used to put out an injury report
yeah the week, and which is, of course it's helpful,

(05:17):
like it's help you like you like it if they
were all that helpful and not so stupid because North
Carolina's not sitting there going, well, what if Darius Taylor
plays or doesn't play, like they're gonna prepare like he's
gonna play, and if not, you also know they're going
to run the ball, so it's not like it's not
like a quarterback thing. And it's just yes, I get it.
On its face, it's stupid, but I just love how

(05:39):
it still bothers you this much every single time that
on your camp report August thirteenth, you've got to take
a gratuitous cheap shot, right, just.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
I just lays up the facts and he says, oh,
we can't believe anythings.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Well, everybody likes to compare it like this one since
this has happened in the last forty hours to the
Cody Lennenberg deal, which that was a whole different type
of situation for me. I know they may be similar
in injury, but the second aggravation around the North Carolina
was a different injury completely. Do I wish Cody Lennenberg
or PJ. Fleck would now after the fact come out

(06:17):
and talk about what actually happened. I do, but it
doesn't seem like that's ever going to happen. It's just
whether it's early on or god forbid, down the line
and you just refill everybody in what actually happened. There's
no I just don't understand.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Nobody knows to that point. Nobody knows the Trey Pots
situation four years ago.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
Yeah, right, and that one I can't understand to a
degree because I think that one was more serious.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Oh it was life threatening threatening yeah, five nights, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
And so I can understand like some privacy laws there,
but if it's a hamstring and when you know those
type things like.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Come on, yeah, So I'm going along. So I already
know Burns's he's not feeling great. I don't know if
he's an wasn't in the sun. He was annoyed. It's
one of his.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Usual and I just become a crotchety old man.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
So then he goes and he starts breaking down. This
is where it gets really good. So I've already read
that part Chip and like man Bernsey just salt right away.
Talks about the offense and with Daniel Jackson, as we mentioned,
who wasn't in practice. He said, it wasn't a good
day to watch them create separation catch the football in space.
Elijah Spencer was pretty good. Ethan rob he beat Ethan Robinson.
Max Brozemer had a nice throw. Pass catchers need more consistency.

(07:37):
Then he writes this chip there was a player two
made like Quintin Redding caught a back shoulder parentheses. Yes,
they threw that to a five to six player parent
touchdown And Drake Lindsey, what do you want? Let Quinton
ready and get some reps they might need him. Why
don't people guard?

Speaker 1 (08:02):
He text me, And I had a couple other folks
around the program text me say, just like in what
world and on an actual Thursday or Saturday, whatever it
may be, are you going to be throwing to the
back pylon to Quentin Reading like it was no time
of a.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
Throw, Like it's a practice rep. We all need.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
I know, I'm just I'm old and crotchety.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Now mac Brown has to prepare for that when Quinton
Reading is out there. You know, as wide receivers six
your back shoulder throw. So Ryan what is going on?
Like the season hasn't even started. You don't have any kids? Like?

Speaker 2 (08:41):
What?

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Why? Why all the stress in the anks? That's what
I'm worried about here, because you're far too young and
you have far too few stressful obligations compared to mister projects,
to mister fifteen jobs and three kids. Why I get
why I'm mad? Why are you so mad? Well?

Speaker 1 (08:59):
I love if a big could show up on one
of my twenty something cameras because I've been putting in
the work behind the scenes. Guardsy, I'm sweating my tailoff
two three days a week and just haven't. No, I
don't have the rewards to show for it so far,
with just some instant gratification on my cell phone for
one of those cell cameras. But I feel like it
comes back to I still don't exactly know what this

(09:21):
team is. I've seen three practices. I know what their
schedule looks like. I still believe, even after watching three practices,
that this is the widest variance team.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Of the Fleck era.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Now, as much as it says about their own team,
I think it says a lot about the teams they're
going to play. Where we've talked about this, and I'm
sure we will again next week when we kind of
previewed the season. But there's two teams you're going to
be three touchdown underdogs too, Michigan and Penn State. Two
teams you'll build three touchdown favorites against Rhode Island and Nevada.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
And then you got eight teams.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Where you'll be plus or minus a touchdown, And I
just don't know which way it's going to go. I
still don't know if the run defense is any goo.
I want to see what this offense looks like with
an actual consistent quarterback, in which I believe Max Brosmer
will be. But I think a lot of it comes
down to too, you know, I see some of the
same issues. Like I mentioned the receivers in there. I'm

(10:14):
tired of Monday morning press conferences with PJ. Fleck where
they don't have a great passing day like they haven't
over the last three seasons, and he comes in laments
talks about the inconsistencies, and I'm just like, if we
do that for a fourth straight year, I just I'm
really losing time for it at this point.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Chipper, Yeah, No, I've wrote a call about this a
couple of weeks ago where I've followed this program closely
intimately for I think twenty twenty years, twenty one years.
Excuse me, I'm battling a cold here, and this is
my hardest season to predict what this team's going to be.

(10:54):
Of all those, I can't remember more being more uncertain about,
like how this season is going to go. And I
think it's you know, obviously the quarterback that's that's a
big part of it. But I think a lot of it,
I mean, and the changes with the conference and the
schedule stuff where you don't have the West. Excuse me,

(11:14):
but I think a lot of it too, just how
they finished last year was so poor, and.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
You know, you.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
I just don't know how they're gonna rebound and and
be better in the areas where receivers we talked about that.
Are they going to make a dramatic improvement this year? Well,
Daniel Jackson injury hasn't been exactly Excuse me, hasn't been uh,
you know, inspired confidence. And then with the defense. I
like their line, but there's just so many new faces

(11:47):
and and and I think PJ said there today, we
got a lot of bodies well, that. I mean, what
is you know, what does that mean? You know, so
you're not gonna you need to narrow down on who
you can rely on. So I'm same with you, Like
I really don't know, I said on the radio day
the other day, I think six and six, but it
could be you know, a couple of games either way.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah, anything between four and eight and eight and four.
If we're talking right after that Black Priday game against Wisconsin.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
It wouldn't shock me either way.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
I just wish I had a better handle ont of guards.
And that's where that's where your max inks and anxiety
comes from. And I don't know something about something in
my career path here. It gives me a little stress
and anxiety, and maybe I write some things that you know,
I'm not viewing it through the maroon and gold color sunglasses.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
I'm just glad that I wasn't the only one that
picked up on your saltiness.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
By the way, way next to me that night.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
I'd already received I think three other thing.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
What yeah, what are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Well? Did you have some reflection? I mean, did you
sit there and think about it? Like I don't Why
are you taking your lack of bucks sightings out on
Max Brosmer and Elijah Spencer and poor Quintin Ready who's
just trying to do his best.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
Yeah for being a short thing.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Yeah, if it's not his fault, it's not it's not
my fault. I'm five nine. We can't all be six
foot four too whatever, like you Burns. So it's like,
you know, don't take your trail cams out on Quinton
Reading and Max Brozmer. I hope you got some sleep
that night, because it's far too we're I appreciate the
burnsy salt. I've told you before. I appreciate it the

(13:25):
burnsy salt more than most because you will absolutely say
what you're thinking. Rob Winger and his wife can attest
to that. But it's it's far too early to be
this salty. I think it's far too You got a
long season ahead. You got to keep your oar in
the water a little bit.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Trust me, I've got I've got the talking to is
at practice or a phone call here and there saying
what are we doing here?

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (13:49):
I know it is hard, it is, it is hard me.
You'll get to see the team what three times in
fall camp, and one of them Top fifteen players don't
do anything. It's like, right, how are you gonna know what? Like,
how are you gonna have a good handle on the team.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
So that's where you have, Like Wisconsin's been at Platfill
for two weeks and there maybe you got to see
essentially everything, and they continue to this week and then
you Iowa who you get to see one day. But
they're also the only pony show in Towel, So you
have two very different ends of the spectrum. And that's
a whole different podcast about media access and different.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Things like that.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
I'm gonna we'll do that at the end of the season.
We'll do that at the end of the year when
you're really salty and really warned out.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Sponsored by a coffrop.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
We might need to I'm I'm I'm not only you know,
running this live stream and trying to make sure that
everybody can see where to follow us. I'm also muting
Chip's mic every time he stops talking, just so he
doesn't completely.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
I've found the mute I found the mute button.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
I well, I don't trust you with your own mute button.
So I was doing it. Yeah, you you were the
mute but found the mute button.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Guys, speaking of technology, you should have had me posted
last week because it apparently better take Nico.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
You know what, I that's what I should have led
with I and I had forgotten about it, and that
was that was a mistake by me. I don't know
what I did. I saved the file and that when
I when I went to submit the file to all
of our different podcast platforms, I just put last week's
episode in. I have no idea how it happened. What's funny, though,
is people like people can't just follow along, like how

(15:27):
many times have we tweeted about it? Burnsy like, because
we got and we appreciate people that wanted it and
that were disappointed that it was the wrong file. That's good.
We deal with this a lot of the fan when
something's wrong, Trust me about it. We're working on it.
Odds are you're not the first person that is letting
us know that it is an issue. And also, odds
are we've already explained the issue because you kept sending

(15:49):
me tweets. I'm like, Burnsy, just tell them to redownload it.
It's there. I just tell them to redo.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Clearly, you had already seen about eight of them. I
put it up on your board. I said, you just
have to.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
If you're one of the great people that download us
every single week, thank you. When I screw up like that,
you just have to re download the episode. It's a pain.
I'm sorry. I'm an idiot. And yeah, Chip, if you'd
like to take that off my hands, feel free. No
I can't. I can't imagine.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
I can no chance.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Well, I was proud of you because you got the
Dolly Parton on the game. Guys, you both run initials
guards he defending his crown and you had to flex
on the kids with the initials DP. But I'm just
glad Chipper got good old Dolly Parton. So make sure
the South is right.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
We'll say this Guardsey is like the king. He just
I mean he is dueling pianos on like one guest.
I mean he was absolutely he destroyed us. But as
a boy from East Tennessee, if I couldn't have got
Dolly Parton, then I should have been just summarily dismissed
right then. So I got my one point. I went,
I'm happy. I will say that game is harder in studio.

(17:05):
Oh yeah, playing along in your car because the thing
I did I got stuck on one thing. As soon
as I heard the I thought, I was thinking dance
party the whole time. Dance party has to be one
of them, and so I kept thinking about it. It's
like I'd hear these clues and like they could be
dance party. I was like, no, stop thinking about dance.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
It's such a mental grind. It's such a mental grind.
You have to your mind has to be open to
all possibilities. Your mind cannot be you know, the two
at the end Chip. I had those in the holster
for a while, like Democratic Party. Yeah, I was just
I was just waiting to throw those and I was
trying to be like Larry Bird in the three point
shooting contest and then hold his finger up like that.

(17:45):
I really wanted an epic walkoff for nine. But yeah,
and well, and then you know, you get fixated, and yes,
that's what it is. You guess, you second guess yourself,
and then if somebody's hot, like I was in the
middle of the game, it's a wrap. It's over, and
then you're in your head. Then you never think you're
gonna get anything. I've been completely lost in there a
couple of times, not recently, but.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
There were like the first five or I don't know when. Uh,
I had no clue, like dirty Pool was one of them.
I've never even heard of that phrase. Yeah, dueling pianos.
I wouldn't. I don't even know what a dueling piano
he is. I never would have even thought of.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
That thought you were a man of culture.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
I've been to a dueling dueling pianos.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
I don't even what's that? Like two panels playing at
the same time, Like.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
There you go, yeah, you know, like back to back,
back and forth. They'll go back and forth, they'll play together.
It's a big it's a big you know, there's a
bar down town that has it. There's a couple of
them in Vegas. Yeah, you just got to get out
of the bubble. You just got to get out of
the bubble a little bit, chip and your life experience
informs how you're doing well.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
I went home happy, and I'm proud of you. And
if I'm putting money down, I'm putting it on you
were no park to bring home the championship.

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Because there's heavyweights. There's some heavyweights. It all depends on
the words and if you get yeah, like there was
a stretch of like two or three years where I
didn't get any because it was all like super pop culture.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
I would do that.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Movie come out. But if you do like phrases in
general life things I can do that. I can do that.
I can get out there a little bit. But thanks
for watching Burnsey.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
I was very proud of my parent of brothren, and
I hope you can be dough young park here as.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
You can tell me. I think that might be my
greatest life accomplishment that I knocked him out around one
a year ago, because that guy is speaking of wizards.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
That guy is, that's the thing. I mean, guy has
literally been on Jeffary twice and he's like the smartest guy.
And I saw him in the press box at target
Field a couple of days where I did it. I
was like, yeah, he's like what are you doing? I
was like Monday, and he's like, yeah, the first time
you play it, man, that messes with your brain. I'm like, oh, great, wonderful.
The smartest guy I ever met is tell me how
hard it is.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
And then if you don't get one, you feel like
you should. That also messages with you. You have to
have a short like when Ron got Disney Princesses, And
for those of you that weren't listening to Cafe and Initials,
really sorry about this dramment on the Parent of Spare podcast,
But when Ron got Disney Princesses, like, that's one I
should get. I have a five year old daughter. She's
all in and then I'm down in the game. You

(20:05):
gotta just forget it. You gotta just punt and move on,
and you know, try to play defense, and thankfully I
was able to. But the best line is one that
was tweeted at us that we couldn't believe for the
Parent of Spare podcast bit Mode that Daily Planner was
not one of them on DP like it was just
sitting right there for us Daily Planner? Which one of

(20:29):
us would have gotten that? Would it have been you,
the guy who doesn't have one somehow, or me the guy.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Who depend on it? Would depend on the clues, right,
but that would have been a perfect one. That would
have been so on brand.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
But it wasn't to be.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
I've never been more excited when I heard Cory KOs
a pigeon Fords. I knew I was getting one. I
was walking out of there. I wasn't getting.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Shut out I had Zach Calverson save the video of
Chip this double arm per Brooks celebration. We're gonna gonna
use that the first time Coy Perrits is back to
return a kick at Hunting the back stadium. We're just
gonna double arms up like this. All right, Well, let's
get back to the team. We Burnsy's saltiness. Aside from

(21:15):
the practice report, the headline news from that practice is
that the future of your offense and your best offensive
player didn't finish it. And like you said, Burnsy, it
looked like a hamstring injury, right, which, as Cody Lindenberg
won't tell you, those are tricky, as Justin Jefferson has learned,
those are tricky, Like if you're a skill position guy,
you need your hamstrings. And so what do we make

(21:37):
of this? Do we have any other info on it?
You've got sources, Burnsy? What we're two weeks out? Not
ideal to have literally the program, if the ball is
the program, the guy who's gonna have the ball the most.
Darius Taylor left practice earlier in the week.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Your thoughts, Yeah, when he's running down the sidelines, outstretches
for a ball and then immediately comes up limp. You'll
oh boy, yeah, oh boy, because like I wrote in
that salty practice report, and he was down there for
about a minute or so, ends up getting up. They
put some ice on the hamstring and whatnot, and he
was moving around. I'd see today that Go for Football

(22:15):
tweeted out a picture of Darius Taylor doing some serving
and giving so good. Leg has not been amputated, contrary
to what we've seen some other Minnesota football teams in
town go through.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
But I think it comes back to.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
And we talk a lot about and I certainly have
the ninety two touches in fourteen days for Darius, and
then he gets hurt and then he's not the same
comes back for Iowa reinjures while he didn't finish the spring,
and now he's banged up again towards the end of
aall camp. You know, at some point here it's just
how do you figure out how to have him find

(22:53):
health well when he's healthy, he's obviously tremendous chip, but
it's for him finding health and staying health.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
And it's finding the right workload for him. He's not
Mohammed Abraham, Well.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
I would say the springing in the fall it's not
a usage issue.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, I mean obviously that can you know, it's not
like he's being overly taxed in training camp. I don't
think correct, But so, I mean, so this could happen anytime,
but but it does. You know, I think it usage
is a thing that we need to talk about with
him though, because now you've got the Marcus Major kid,

(23:35):
who I mean, we haven't seen a lot of but
he looks like he could be a guy that they
can count on to to take some of those So sorry,
I know I'm just dying, but they have to. This
goes back to I mean, you know we're a broken record,

(23:55):
but this is where you have to be able to
depend on your passing game to to take some the
pressure off a guy having to carry the ball twenty
five times. You know, it also a game to get
a win.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
It goes back to the name of this podcast, the
parent of spare.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
That's where I wanted to go next.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Is you know, we'll see if Darius is healthy. I
know that they were going to get him in for
an MRI. I want to have some swelling it down.
We'll see what that ends up entailing.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
I think he.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Certainly is the story. There you go that advances the
story Burnsy.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
I mean, I think certainly he's going to be a
question mark for North Carolina considering we're just a couple
of weeks out. I don't know how severe it is,
but I think that's what it comes back down to,
is both to both of your points here. I think
it comes back to instead of this being the Darius
Taylor offense, I think now it certainly shifts to this
has to be the Max Brosmer offense. And it also
shifts to with the running game, Chip, I mean, you

(24:47):
talk about Marcus Major, who's been one of the surprises
of fall camp, maybe is the favorite to get that
first carry against North Carolina. He was really good at Oklahoma.
You know what, he also battled at Oklahoma for five years.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
Yeah, so it's.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Going to be Marcus Major, c a Binger, the Ohio
transfer Jordan Nubin will see if a freshman like Feme
Edge a boy can potentially you're gonna have to rely
on three, maybe four backs here in September, because not
one of these guys is built to get twenty five
thirty carries a game. But it's also Chip, Well, it

(25:23):
has to come back to the passing game with a lot.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
Of this too.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
I believe it when I see it, man, I know,
I mean, this is what it was gonna be last year, right.
I Mean, we didn't know Darius Taylor at the time,
but we thought it was gonna be. Hey, this offense
is gonna revolve around Aithan Callac Manison. He's gonna be
the you know, the guy, and they're gonna build it
around him. And and uh, obviously.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
He throws it forty times against Nebraska.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
And then I think like they lose faith in him,
and now it's back to you know, run run, run
and so or.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Even like the North Carolina game, guys running wide open
all over the place and Athan and Cole Kramer can't
hit him.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Right.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
But I do think, especially with Darius's injury, and I'm
more optimistic that Daniel Jackson'll be fine and be back
for North Carolina. But that's where I think. I'm not
saying they're gonna throw it thirty five forty times a game,
but well, it's what if they end up throwing it chip.
I mean, I've said this before and I'll continue to
say it. In two weeks out. I think Max Brosberg

(26:20):
breaks Tanner Morgan's twenty nineteen Fleck Era passing record for
passing attempts this year.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, and and I can't remember if we talked about
this the last time, but the flex say in the
seventy percent completion percentage, Yeah, we talked about it, Okay,
But but I think just the forget the number. I mean, obviously,
I think it's more he was more saying this is
gonna be yeah, yeah, a rhythm short pass and get

(26:46):
you know, quick hitting style, drove to the tailbacks, those
type things. So if you can have that kind of
offense where you are you know, incorporating a bunch of
different guys, But again, it comes back to a bunch
of different guys being consistent and reliable and catching the ball.
And you know, based on your your report from the
other day, that's still an ongoing issue. And so you

(27:10):
have to figure out, you know, which guys you can trust,
which you know which guys are going to produce for you.
But I do think, I mean, Daniel Jackson obviously is
gonna be the you know, the focal point in the
past game. But I was impressed with Brockington a couple
of years ago, and I thought he had a chance
to be a guy that could be a playmaker for him.
So I want to see more of him and see

(27:30):
if he can stay healthy and if he can kind
of slide into that role for him.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
I think Elijah Spencer is someone that's finally found a
little consistency. Yep, very good at Charlotte, didn't work out
last year. It sounds like there's a lot of optimism
that he can provide something. I think there's a lot
of optimism around the Penn State transfer and Donald Driver's kid,
Christian Driver.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Now, yeah, what's his health. That's what I want to
know about him, like, because I keep hearing his name
and I've been there a couple of times and I've
never seen him well.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Part of the issue in the spring was he was
always injured and then when he was on the field,
he was dynamic. And that's what we've seen so far
in Paul Camp. I'm optimistic that he'll be back for
North Carolina okay, but it's trying to figure out if
that core four there that Daniel Jackson, Lamechy Brockington, Elijah Spencer,
Christian Driver, hopefully a couple of tight ends like Jamison

(28:23):
Gears and maybe Pierce Walsh.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
Just catch football.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
I mean, that's all we're asking here is just catching football.
Say you will about mistackles and different things like that,
but that's going to be the difference in this offense
is if they can just catch the quick stuff. It's
second in five, second and four versus second and ten,
and I feel like I'm beating the dead horse at
this point.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
Don't get salty, don't turn salty. Okay, I'll interrupt you here.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
The difference for this offense this year is if you
don't have a running back that you can give the
ball twenty five to thirty times a game too. You
have to be so much better on first and second
because we've seen with this offense the last few seasons,
when you get in a second and third and long
and your passing game is what it is, it's so

(29:09):
much harder to be efficient explosive. So that's where the
hope would be that Brozmurg can just be accurate. I mean,
last year they completed fifty two percent of their passes.
The flex out here talking about seventy percent, which again
is an hyperboleague considering only six college football teams last
year completed that amount but if Brosemer can be somewhere
around sixty two sixty five percent, that'd be a much

(29:31):
much bigger improvement than last year.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, Tanner was in nineteen and in twenty two he
was in that sixty five sixty six.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yep, that might be.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
A little high for Brosmurg, But I agree with Bernsey, like,
if you get to sixty two, you know in at ballpark,
that's then you have a that tells you have a
rhythm with your with your office, and guys are catching
the ball. You don't have a bunch of drops. And
if they can, if they can complete at that percent,
then I think, you know you'll see things open up

(30:05):
for Daris Taylor and major in the running game and
not just be so you know on third and four
you know you have an option to throw the ball
to You're not just going to running back run if
you finally do.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
But I also think this could be I think back
to the offensive lines in the Fleck era. I mean,
I think this twenty four offensive line with the headliners
being Arionta Aristree, Tyler, Cooper, Quinn Carroll, I think it
could rival the twenty nineteen one. I think the twenty
twenty two to one was pretty good. So, whether it's
protecting Brosber, whether it's opening up some things in the

(30:37):
run game, they should have about as good of an
offensive line as they've had in the Fleck era if
everybody can stay healthy.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
I agree. I mean, obviously left tackle's gonna be an
NFL player. I mean, and you know, you have some
depth there, and I just I feel like if you're
starting off to Big ten, you want to have two
good lines. And I think that's a good starting point
for them. You know, I know, the run defense and

(31:05):
how they're going to hold up there has some concerns
with Bernsey, but I do think they have some playmakers
along that defensive line. So I mean as a starting point,
that's a pretty good place where they're at with their lines.
It's just it's everything else around them. You know, how's
that going to come together?

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Well, the urgency here is like you need to find
a way to beat North Carolina because that's this is
not hyperbole. I mean that is a massive swing game
for your whole season, but also just September because you've
got this, you don't have Jerry Kill's second year, Aggie's
coming in here, that you're going to boat race, right,
You've got a legitimate Power five team that has some dudes.

(31:44):
It's it's essentially a pick them game. I think the
Gophers right now are favored by two and a half.
But as a tone setter in this market, with these fans,
with this group, with everything else that's that's around here.
I mean, just today, Wolve schedules opening up, wild tickets
go on sale, links are back an action and by
the way, the Vikings or the Vikings like you you
dropped that first game, well, like no one cares about

(32:06):
you until that Iowa game, and yeah, you win it.
You give yourself a little bit of a I guess
breathing room to maybe get some of these other guys
in hopefully for the next couple of weeks. But like
with Darius going down here two weeks before the game,
it's like, man, it's a really important game. So everything
you all just talked about, it's like you got they
got to figure out every little nook and cranny to

(32:28):
try to grease that game out because it is a sneaky,
big game just for the narrative of the season.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
In my opinion, well, yeah, I agree too, because I
think a lot of us because look how they finished
last year, terrible November fans I felt, for the first
time with Flack really started to be like really, what,
like where's this going? Like what you know, and not
just the fringe ones that are going to come and go,
you know, even the.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Like the observers as I call them the observers.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, but I mean I felt like the tenor changed
within the fan base in November last year. Not that
they lost everybody, but but you know, you could just
feel like people like, ah, man, this is the first
time where you really felt people kind of questioning what
was happening.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Well, you want to see where it's going to go
from there, Like, I think everybody understands a dip and
we know the reasons why. And I think they've had
a pretty good offseason all told, you know, recruiting wise,
you've told us that obviously retaining players like from what
they had in November. I mean, and then there was
the UCLA stuff, which I'm sure shut some things down,
like even though it's okay to love where you're at,

(33:36):
copyright PJ. Fleck pick ten media days, like that's a
thing that people are going to file away now, Like
they want to see like whether he likes it or
they like it or not. Like that's a thing in
there too, where if you don't have a good season,
then it is going to get louder, rightfully so.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
And so that's why I think, you know, getting off
to a good start when you know it just gives
them some momentum and like, Okay, yes, this is a
page turn or almost like this is not a continuation
of last year where things were just not good at
the end of the year. So I yeah, And there's
so many of those games where you're like, they're just

(34:10):
like picking games, like I could see it going either way,
Like I feel like North Carolinas should be a game
that they should win. But you go down the list
and you're like, you could talk yourself into a bunch
of scenarios, you know, you know, so as many of
those games as you can get is going to determine
how you feel about this season.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Well, especially with the way the Viking news has broke
unfortunately for that team. There's an opportunity in this football town,
which is football is king without question, that if you
can just win that opening game and then you get
two gimmeas at home against Rhode Island and Nevada, setting
up that NBC night game against the Iowahawk, guys, you
have an opportunity to capture some of the market share

(34:48):
in town. Because I don't know what you guys think,
but obviously I'm not incredibly bullish and what the Vikings
will be doing. People want to watch a winning team
in this town, and that's where to Chip's point, do
I think SO should win this game? I do, because
I think they're better upfront, But it's only sixty forty.
In my mind, it wouldn't shock me at all if
North Carolina one. But to your point, Guardsy, it's such

(35:10):
a pivotal game early in the year. It sets the
tone for the rest of the season.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
To me, yeah, no one cares what you do the
next two weeks right after that, Yeah, in those two
non conference games, like you're gonna get no juice out
of those whatever happens. And so it's as PJ says it,
it's an opportunity. It's a big opportunity. And that's why
you know when you're at practice and the guy who's
allegedly going to help you with that opportunity is out,
it's alarming and now it's and so that's why we've

(35:36):
kind of talked out the depth that they have behind him, hopefully,
the depth that they have in the passing game, all
of those things. Anything else you want to talk about?
Practice report? Did you get it all out? Burnsy? Did
you get it all out? Because we'll take a break
here and talk about a couple of rival schools and
some things that they've got going on in camp. Are
are you gopher it out here? Will be good for
this week?

Speaker 4 (35:53):
It was very cathartic for me.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
I appreciate that. All right, Well, we will come back
and talk about a quarterback contra in Iowa City and
a quarterback decision in Madison that's coming up in just
a second. But I know this didn't make you salty.
You're eating at Jack's Cafe. We got multiple texts from you,
Burnsey last week. You went to Jack's Cafe. You made
reservations at Jackscafe dot com. Great partner of the podcast

(36:18):
for another season. I've been in Minneapolis forever, year after year,
decade after decade, meal after meal. Tell the people what
you got, Tell the people about your parking, tell the
people about your conversations. Give us the most recent Ryan
Burns Jack's cafe experience.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
Well, I'll lead off for Chip.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
My father was so excited about the free and ample
parking in northeast Minneapolis. I thought of you instantaneously.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
A great mindstake alike, being a case of mind, peace
of mind, knowing that you've got a place to park.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
Yeah, but it was outstanding.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
I mean, my family, especially my parents are especially the older,
they get food snobs, and they were absolutely blown away
by the food. Weather it was the salads, whether it
was their main course, whether it was the desserts. My
family are big dessert people. Chip, the cramboulet had just
for you.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Oh you know know that was it?

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Not gold?

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Oh my gosh, it was outstanding. I also got the
chocolate cake afterwards. Goodness, gracious, I'm gonna have to check
my sugar levels.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Goodness.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
I got the eight ounce fil a which was perfectly done.
Got it with some There were crispy hash browns and
it was trust me, everybody looked around afterwards and was.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
Like, holy cow, this was tremendous.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Ye so got to bring them out on the patio afterwards,
show them everything. It is just I can't say enough
good things. It surpassed any and all expectations from my
family who was there with me. They'd never been. I
can assure you they've already asked me when are we
going back.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
That's awesome first time trip for him.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
It was it was hopping there, I'll tell you that much.
Whether inside, outside of Wednesday night, Jack's Cafe was the
place to be. So yeah, I know there were multiple
birthdays going on around us, so, I mean the steak
was tremendous, just absolutely.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
I'm mistake snob.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
I mean I thought it was better than some of
the more talked about ones around town in my opinion.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Here, thanks, there you go, There you go, whether it's
a special occasion, whether it's a date night, whether it's
a happy hour, whether it's a brunch. Don't forget about
the weekend brunches as well. We're almost we're basically in
peak brunch season as we speak right now, before or
after games. And then we got an eleven o'clock kick
coming up here. I think week two. Great spot to

(38:35):
stop off early or certainly stop back late. They've got
a great bar as well. Groups fifteen to four hundred.
They can do everything for you. It's Jack's Cafe. In Minneapolis.
Make your reservations at Jackscafe dot com. One thing that's
been discussed a lot on this podcast and basically any
college football show the last few years has been the
University of Iowa Hawkeye's offense, and they made some sweeping changes.

(38:57):
The offensive coordinator, Brian Kirk to his son is now
an analyst at the University of Maryland with Mike Loxley.
They bring in Tim Lester, who's bringing in apparently some
Green Bay Packer type ideals into the offense from the
Matt Lafleur school and all of this. You know, last
year when they talked about the offensive struggles, guys, they
talked about the fact that they're a starting quarterback Cade

(39:18):
McNamara who transferred for Michigan because he was going to
lose his job to J. J. McCarthy or did he
was injured, he didn't play. They lost like every tight
end that they possibly had. They didn't have a ton
of wide receiver depth. I know they're still young at
wide receiver. It was all kind of built the optimism
towards this season with the new quarterback that well, now
Kaid's been here, he's stuck around for another year. We

(39:40):
know how excited they were to have him a year ago.
I was stunned, Burnsey to read your counterparts down there
in Iowa City, whether it's Sean Bach or David Eicholt,
that there was a big battle apparently, and not a
great battle. It was a battle of attrition, a war
of attrition on the day that was open to their
media between something called Brendan Sullivan and Cad McNamara for

(40:04):
QB one at the University of Iowa.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Your thoughts, well, I would say this, I have the
stats up, Chip.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Have you seen I saw some retreat the stats and so.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Caid McNamara against the first team Iowa defense, which is
obviously tremendous without Luke Lache as well, who's going to
be an NFL draft pick at tight end? Cad McNamara
was seven of twenty one for twenty passing yards. He
had more passing attempts than he had passing yards. I
believe the first pass he threw was a pick six,
had a fumbled snap. I understand that there's going to

(40:40):
be growing pains and you're one of a new guy
year one of Caid McNamara getting back on track after
all the injuries that he's dealt with. I know there
weren't some key playmakers out there, but if that's your
only impression, is the Iowa media heading into the season
that your starting quarterback had twenty one passing attempts and
he couldn't even get to twenty one passing yards?

Speaker 4 (41:01):
Goodness, gracious, Chipper, What do you.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Think Brian Farris did when he saw those stats from Maryland?

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Do you call your dad? Do you do you tweet it?
Beth gets does does your burner account tweet things? At
the athletics director down there?

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Without a doubt he has a burner account, right.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
He would always say, I remember listening to interviews. He
would say his father in law was the one he
always had to worry about. He's like, I block out
all the noise, but then my father in law comes
back after listening to the post game show and he's bitter. Yeah,
it's surprising, it is it?

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Though? I mean, do we think it would be dramatically different?

Speaker 3 (41:40):
Well, first of all, it's kid's day and it's a
scrimmage against Iowa. Like I fully expect them to look
choppy and then be really good by the end of
the year, win the games somehow, I mean, I just
that's just what I expect from them because that's how
they roll, that's how they play. Speaking of Burnsy Salt,
I mean, nothing has elevated Burnsy's blood pressure levels more
of the last few years than the fact that Iowa
just continues to churn out ten win seasons because of

(42:03):
multiple pick sixes, you know, Penn State losing put their
third string quarterback not being able to snap it in
the north end zone for a time. Like, there's a million,
a million variables there. But it just was interesting to me.
But then it makes sense because all the guys down there,
you know, like Chad Leist account, Scott Doctrman, they do
a great podcast called Legends and Listeners, which is a brilliant, awesome,

(42:24):
brilliant Big Ten title. I love that, you know they're
doing an episode like I just didn't expect. But then
people started talking, well, Sullivan wasn't going to transfer just
to being also ran, Like I'm sure he did see
there might be an opportunity here, and now it's almost
like they're kind of expecting both guys to play a
little bit at some point this year.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Yeah, I wonder, I wonder how they sold him, like quarterback.
I mean, I assume it was like, hey, come in,
nothing's guaranteed you had a chance to start, And I'm
not sure playing two quarterbacks is you know, the best
way to go. But I just assume McNamara once he
was healthy, he was just gonna kind of slide back
in there and be the starter. But clearly, you know

(43:08):
there's a I don't know if is it a fifty
to fifty competition Burns era, how is it?

Speaker 1 (43:13):
I think it's more eighty twenty McNamara from what I
I also don't pretend to be the Iowa guru that
maybe mister former Iowa Hawkey justin guard was. But the
thing I want to see is what what does kid
McNamara look like? And what version of this with his
health are we Because battled health goes down, he was

(43:37):
already not the most nimble of guys, and now I'm
wondering if he's even less nimble. Because to your both
of your points, you only bring a Brendan Sullivan after
the spring when you're maybe starting to have Because it
felt like after that Kid McNamara injury, it really no
one wanted to talk about how the rehab process was
going and then they bring in Sullivan, and to me,

(43:59):
that's when my red flag went up of they had
to bring in a guy regardless because their number two left,
the guy who played against the Gophers, I forget his.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Name Hill yeh declan something. Yeah, well, let me give
you right.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
But bringing in a guy like Brennan Sullivan, who's obviously
started big ten games is y is gonna be peculiar
to me where I fully expected to be Kid McNamara
and the opener. But if he struggles the first couple
of games, that's where I wonder in and around that
Gopher game what we end up seeing. But this also
could be for not because, like I like to say,

(44:35):
with these Gopher practices, I will got to see one
of twenty something practices and maybe he just had a
bad day, because that's going to happen in Paul camp.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
But to go back, yeah, to go back to the
guards to your point about the new coordinator, and I mean,
do you really think Kirk Farrance is going to deviate
much from who he is? His identity he's established for
a hundred years in terms of philosophy, and so it's
it's probably gonna look pretty similar, right, you know. Yeah,
it's idea is that they'll execute it better, right.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
And that they have better players, and that they actually
have a starting caliber quarterback, which they obviously didn't have
a year ago. I mean we all watched that. I
mean we all, yeah, I mean we watched like, like
part of the reason why the whole fair catch thing
is funny is because let's just say the play was
you know, blown dead or whatever, like I always still
had the ball after all that, even after the golphers
you know, you know they punted it back at like

(45:26):
midfield like it wasn't like. So yeah, just and that's
what even Ferrence talked about late in the season, maybe
even before Bowl prep. Basically, like I mean, when I
do an evaluation, I'm looking at and Pj's talked about
this too. Is it schematics, a personnel, is it execution? Whatever?
It is? Like they lost a ton on offense. Now,
do I think they were going to be the ninety
nine Rams last year if Cade mc namara and all

(45:48):
the tight ends were healthy. Probably not, but they certainly
were going to be better than what they were they
saw when they literally couldn't do anything, especially in the
passing game. Here's your guy, Sean Bach Hawkeye inside Sullivan
was brought in to push McNamara for the starting spot.
Mcnamarre is the internal leader right now, has been that
way for a while. However, based on the last couple

(46:08):
of weeks, you can't ignore Sullivan anymore. He's going to
continue to push mc namara for the job and his
stock is getting higher. So they'd be interesting to see
and they have a forget about the Minnesota game for them,
They've got the Sihawk game, you know, week two or three,
whenever it is. Iowa State's going to be a good
team too. They're seeing as kind of a sneaky, you know,
playoff contender as well, with Matt Campbell and everything he's
done down their names, like they always have that huge

(46:31):
litmus test important in state game too before they even
come up here.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Well, they've ben got Illinois State, who's ranked in the
top twenty five for FCS programs, to lead off. You
mentioned the Sihawk game or Troy.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
I don't know that.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
They're going to be the team they were last year.
But last year they won ten games. Yeah, they won
double digit. Yeah, they were the Big ten West champs. Right,
this isn't Rhode Island in Nevada company.

Speaker 3 (46:51):
Oh about Illinois State, Yeah, yes, Illinois.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Illinois State was top twenty five SCS or Troy in
the sum belt there. They won double digit games last
year year. Now, every team's a little bit different, but
they're going to be tested more than Minnesota will be.
So it's gonna be very interesting to see. How does
how does it all look between those.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Two I was reading about their defense too. For some reason,
I thought Sebastian Castro was also gone.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
They're older than BYU defeat.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
Yeah, like everyone talks about Degene and rightfully so. Yeah,
by the way, I saw his uh, I saw his
his kid brothers like a top thirty recruit nationally Burnssey.
I saw you guys just put that out. I have
a hunch where he's probably gonna go. I have a
hunch where he's gonna go. But every time, like in
Degene obviously is unbelievable, Like but I'm looking, you know,

(47:40):
they've got the great linebacker. But then like every time
I watch and I think it was the Wisconsin game
a year ago leading up to the Gopher game, or
it might have been after him, like Sebastian Castro is nice, Like,
that's another dude that just makes plays. I remember even
talking to PJ about him on the Coaches Show. I'm like,
you know, Castro's good, and he's like, oh man, he's
just like yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
We know.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
He's like we know, like we we offered him too,
you know what I mean. Like there's there's those guys
in the recruiting battles where you're like, it would have
been nice to have a guy like that.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
It's the kid has to be an average of twenty
four years old.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
Yeah they are.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
You're going to be old and really really talented, which
is why a lot of people down in Iowa City
are hoping that college football playoff come November is on
the table.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
I think it is just with their schedule. I mean
they obviously they can't drop games like up here, you
know they've got to, But their schedule.

Speaker 4 (48:33):
Is very outside of it.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
They only play one ranked opponent as of today, and
that's on the road after a bye week in Columbus. Yeah,
they miss Michigan Oregon. It's on the table. I just yeah,
I'm not saying I bet it. I'm just saying if
their defense is what it was and their offense is
a little bit better. We know that they know how
to win games, like they have the formula and they're

(48:58):
all bought in on it.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
So it I was, but it's going to be something
to think about.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
And I don't know if there's another program that maximizes
their opportunities when it's there, like the schedule being favorable
for him or whatever. You know, we know about the
you know, special teams and fluky things that are not fluky,
but just you know how they can win games, you know,
in the margins there. But I want to see that offense.

(49:27):
I mean, I know their defense is gonna be great throughout.
You know, they're obviously gonna be very good special teams,
but I want to see at that offense because they
were just so in that last year and a lot
of that was a quarterback and you know, the playing
quarterback that wasn't a big ten quarterback.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
But they haven't the ball for the for the no
very well the last handful of years. And they've got
an experienced line. I know they like their depth at
line too, and just reading some stuff out of there.
So that's you know, when I when when any of
these teams here in the Midwest are at their best.
It's because they have great line play. You said it
at the top of this chipper in the Big Ten,
and I don't think they've had that necessarily, even though

(50:01):
they've put guys in the league, and they've put guys
obviously on all Big Ten type seasons, I don't think
they've had that dominant running game that has really set
up everything. Part of that might be because everybody knew
they couldn't throw correct, but.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Yeah, I think that's a very underrated part of this.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
But they also, I think, feel pretty good about what
they have upfront down there too. Yeah, anything else Hawkeye related, burnsy,
I don't want to get you too salty and make
you think about flashbacks of pick sixes and fumbles inside
their own ten yard lines. We've got some other stuff
to talk about in the Big Ten if you'd like,
very comfortable moving on.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
I'm already salty enough today.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Yeah, seriously, thirty two years old, I'm not I'm not
a coach. I'm not here to motivate and inspire.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
You know.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
I don't think I can. I don't think I can
pump you up.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
I'm gonna work my best to change my best with
the necktime mentality.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
All right, so let's go to the neighbors to the east.
The last game of the season the Wisconsin Badgers, Black Friday,
eleven o'clock on CBS. You mentioned Burnsey the Platteville camp,
which I love, By the way, I think that's such
a cool thing. Great idea by Luke Fickle. I would
love it if the Gophers, I don't know where they
would go, like Duluth for a couple of weeks, or
you know, someplace random, man Cato. That's what they should

(51:11):
have done. Go back to Mankato, Yeah, and do like
a week somewhere else. But they did announce that Miami
transfer Tyler van Dijke is going to be the starting
quarterback when they open up August thirtieth against Western Michigan.
Brayden Locke was kind of the incumbent or a guy
that's been there and Vandyke. It's from reading stuff both

(51:31):
on your side, Burnsy, what do they call it, Badger
two four seven, and also the Wisconsin State Journal and
everything that comes with it. It doesn't sound like this
was particularly close. It sounds like the coaches tried to
make it sound a little bit closer, But anybody that
was there watching it was pretty clear that Van Dyke
was the clear guy, and now he's he's going to

(51:52):
get the ball here. They're trying to do the whole
one A and one B bit, but it seems pretty
cemented unless you've read something differently Burnsy that this is
the the slam dunk decision for them.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
I don't know that it was a slam dunk decision
from what I've read in terms of I was fully
expecting him to be named the starter in the spring.
You bring in a guy who's got nearly seventy five
hundred passing yards, and I know he's been inconsistent at Miami.
But the fact that we're just two weeks away and
they just named him the starter yesterday, and I remember

(52:23):
reading stuff last week from people at those practicing Tyler
van Dyke's finally putting it together. Well, that also says
to me, on the flip side of the coin, he
wasn't that much better than Braydon Locke was for a
large part of the off season. Now will it matter,
will it not? I have no idea, but I will
say I'm gonna be very curious to see what Van

(52:46):
Dyke looks like, because yeah, he was really good as
a freshman at Miami, but it hasn't been consistent the
last couple of seasons. Now he's in a brand new conference,
with a brand new team, with a brand new offensive coordinator,
and to me, the tea leaves that the media was
talking about in terms of Van Dyke not being exponentially
better than lock Chip. I mean, I'm very curious to see,

(53:08):
like all of these big ten teams, what does your
brand new transfer quarterback look like?

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Well, that's it.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
I mean, yeah, I mean it's and part of that,
you know, like he's starting to put together is I
mean sometimes it just takes time to learn a new system.
I mean, you're going to get the guy who's an
incumbent who knows the system. I mean, it's just you know,
you're not just gonna come in and master it. And
and so I mean you look at that situation, you know,
versus like the Gophers, where you know, you have two

(53:35):
new guys and they're both learning it together. And so
that's what makes this and maybe this is gonna be
a yearly thing where every year there's gonna be ten
new quarterbacks because there's just so much fluid.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
I think it is yeah, I think we've seen that.
I think it will be.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
I think it's just something we're gonna have to get
used to. Where you're, like, at the most important position,
you're having a guy who's come in, either you know,
a backup from somewhere else or a highly productive guy
from a smaller conference, trying to make that transition, and
you don't really know, you know, how they're going to
adjust to, like you said, a new conference, a new

(54:11):
coaching staff, a new everything. And so that's where I
think it is important we talk about infrastructure, you know,
you know, I think about the Vikings, would would J J.
McCarthy or Sam Darnold. The infrastructure matters with these guys,
And that's what I think for you know, if you
circle back to Max Brosen having a really veteran offensive

(54:33):
line that's quite a lot, having a running game with
Darius Taylor, having an All Big Ten Conference wide receiver
that's Daniel Jackson. I mean that stuff. You got to
have that because if you're going to constantly every year,
you know, go look for a transfer a portal quarterback,
if you PLoP them into a situation that doesn't have

(54:53):
good infrastructure, is not going to work and so you know,
I think Fickle's probably recruited well enough and they have
enough pieces coming back. I mean, obviously you're losing a
big running back there, but I think Malusy's back right
as he is back.

Speaker 4 (55:05):
Yep, let's say it.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
He hasn't been able to stay healthy. But when he's healthy,
I kind of like what he gives him, and you
know they'll have good tight ends. They'll assume the line's
going to be improved. So but yeah, I mean there's
just so many unknowns with all these new quarterbacks in
the league, and like which which quarterback is going to
be able to flourish the most in a new system.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Wisconsin is a team to me, I'm going to be
very curious to see because that schedule is more different Alabama.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
I just pulled it up. They got to all out
before Kaylin Debor and the Crimson Tide come to Mad
Town on September fourteenth, or even you got to travel
on the.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Road to face USC road games against Rutgers and then
on the Lake and that weird new configuration at Northwestern,
or even the four games before they play in Minnesota
in your home against Penn State, who's ranked as the
number eight team in the country.

Speaker 4 (55:56):
You got to try that.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
That is a grind. You're right, I'm just looking at
it now. My god.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
You have to then at the beginning of November you
have to go to Kinnick. You get a bye week
to prepare for Oregon at home. Yeah, on the road
at Nebraska, who I think we all agree is going
to in theory be an improved team. Theory make a
bowl game at the very least, and any face Minnesota.
I mean, this schedule is a grind. You're gonna know
by the end of September with those games against Bama

(56:22):
and USC. If Vandyke's the one you want to roll with,
or if you want to give Locke another shot. But yeah,
that is a grind of a schedule for Luke Fickle
this year.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
I know this is the new college football in twenty
twenty four, but do you think there's I mean, just
think about these legacy brands. They're playing Alabama, USC, Penn State, Oregon,
and Nebraska like that. My god, I don't have them
as a fringe playoff team with that schedule. If we're
going to circle back to what we just talked about

(56:51):
with the Hawkeyes, you know, I'd kind of done a
cursory look at all all the schedules, but you mentioned
it that October twenty sixth on wo Man.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Well, that's the thing. When the Gophers show up there
on Black Friday. What kind of shape is that team
going to be in physically? Haven't gone through that?

Speaker 3 (57:07):
You know, that is epic living.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
We'll get to it in.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
October. But even Ucla. You look at that stretch for
Wisconsin and those four games for a brutal and then
you got the Ucla stretch, which I think is the
toughest screen game stretch any team plays in college football
this year where you're on the road at LSU, home
against Oregon, on the road at Penn State, and then
you get to host Minnesota. So there is, in theory

(57:33):
a little bit of schedule luck, but it's all on
paper and obviously Minnesota's Minnesota's got to show up. But yeah,
this Wisconsin schedule they start nice with with with Western
Michigan and South Dakota. Yep, but it gets really difficult
really quickly.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
Yeah, you better, you better get all your jumps out
September seventh and August thirtieth, you know, all of Chips
kids classmates that are still there, get all your jump
arounds there the first couple of weeks, boys and girls.
I don't know if there'll be a lot of joke.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
My wife will be there for the week two. Is
it South Dakota?

Speaker 3 (58:04):
South Dakota the Yolkes. By the way, we talk about
PJ being on a heater the last six months. So
I think Fickle has been too great, great recruiting, even
for this upcoming class, Like there's a reason. I mean
he was smart to kind of see where things were
going and get out of Cincinnati. I think he's landed
on a good at a good spot at Wisconsin obviously,
and that was a big time hire by them. I

(58:25):
mean we said it at the time. The guy, you know,
he took Cincinnati to the playoffs obviously has good pedigree.
He knows what he's doing, and he looks like he's
got his teeth in in Wisconsin. Anything else we want
to talk about before we head out. I feel like
this was good for Burnsy to kind of explain away
some of his salt in the practice report. I'd say,
I look forward to reading your next one, Burnsy, But
much to your sugar in, there won't be a next one.

(58:45):
It'll be in spring practice. The practice report.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
That's very true, and I wonder how many we'll get then,
considering Darius Darius is getting injured.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
At a practice we're at.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
So I'm excited, though, boys two weeks away. We finally
made it through.

Speaker 4 (58:59):
The off season.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
There's actual feasible football to talk about here, very very
soon North Carolina season stuff. We're almost there. We've almost
made it for you, Chipper, unlike what apparently your cough has.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Yeah, get healthy, Chip.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
I apologize, Yes it is. Uh, it has been bugging
me last couple of days. So I apologize to our
listeners for the cough.

Speaker 3 (59:19):
That's all right. I'm just glad you found your mute button.
That's that's the most So I didn't. I didn't have
to do it the whole time. I could focus on
everything else I'm doing over here. Hopefully.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Yea, I saw you mutiny, I was like, well, maybe
I should do it myself.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
Do I have that? Yeah, he's Chipscoggins, he's Ryan Burns.
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