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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Pat's Peeps 240.
This is a very special podcast.
I must say because we're inbeautiful Florence, Italy, Hi
everybody, We've got a wholegroup here.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
We've got new people here tonight.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Ron and Debbie are part of our conservative tours
group, pat's Peeps group, and socool, I mean.
I want you to think about thisOn Pat's Peeps, 240, 240
episodes.
And it was two trips to Italyago with conservative tours that
I made the announcement on thecoach that I was even going to
start Pat's Peeps.
And so here we are, 240episodes later.

(00:32):
I'm very proud of that.
I'm super excited to be hangingout with a great group of
people.
But I just want you to imaginefor one second like you go to
beautiful Florence, italy.
Now you can either imagine whatFlorence is like or you can
just, if you've been here, youknow what it's like.
It's just gorgeous.
And what night?
I don't even know what nightthis is, I don't really care,
let's, just because I don't wantto know Whatever whatever night

(00:54):
it is because that's part ofvacation.
I don't even know what night itis.
We are at the listen to thebackground.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
You can hear the we're at the.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Lavenderia easy wash laundromat in Florence.
Now, many of you would probablyfind a much better place to
hang out, but you know what?
We've been here for how manydays, ron and Deb.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Six, seven days.
You know, at some point westarted on the 3rd.
This is day 9.
I'm sorry, it is the 9th, sothat would be six days.
Okay, so for me I've been onthe 3rd.
This is day 9.
Day 9.
So that would be.
I'm sorry, it is the 9th, sothat would be six days, okay, so
but for me.
I've been on the other side ofthe Atlantic Ocean for more than
two weeks now, Right.
And my clothes are starting tosmell.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Right, well, we didn't want to say anything, but
that bus was getting rainedyeah it's bad.
It's bad.
So Also here, besides Ron andDeb, is, of course, ryan Harris,
who's on our podcast many, manytimes.
He's a mainstay on the podcast.
Come over here.
And Danny Boy, of course, ishere too and, as you heard, the
excitement is in the air.
You can feel it in the air.
Ryan's doing his laundry, andthis is how exciting we are.

(01:56):
Hey, I just want to start.
So today we were in Siena, wewere in tuscany, and it's
amazing just to think that I'mback here again going to the
same places and it's just asit's even better the second time
.
Can I just ask you, ron andthere, deb, what, what, what are

(02:18):
your thoughts on the the tourso far?
What do you think of thevacation?

Speaker 4 (02:21):
great, it's wonderful uh, what's amazing is seeing
some sites and some buildingsand stuff that were there before
the white men came to America.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
That just blows me away.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Medieval towns, medieval places like that I mean
.
So medieval, debbie Brian, herewe get into San Gimignano, or
San Gimignano we get into thecity and one of the first things
we see is like a torture museum, like medieval torture museum,
like this really is an old town?
I'm pretty sure this is, and so, ryan, you went into the

(02:56):
medieval torture museum in Sienatoday.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Is that right?

Speaker 1 (03:00):
No, it was San Gimignano.
So these towns, just to giveyou an idea, I mean I don't even
know, maybe you guys candescribe it better.
I mean, you walk down thesebeautiful narrow streets, you
know big stone streets, and seethese, as you said, ron, these
buildings that have been aroundforever, and you just feel that

(03:22):
history.
So, ryan, ryan, what did yousee in this museum today?
This medieval torture?
How much detail, well, this is.
You know, use your owndiscretion, that's right.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
No, I mean everything's like you know the
obvious, like whips with spikesand, oh my god, like right,
that's right away the first one,the first things you see.
And metal chastity belts put onwomen, uh, and then you know
other devices that stretch andit's hard to imagine and harm

(03:57):
the human body, and then on thetop floor, uh, there are a
couple for children.
That one really stood out to me.
One that looks like a hobbyhorse, only it has a donkey's
head on it and a spiked saddle.
So a naughty child not only hasto sit on the jackass hobby
horse with the spiked saddle,but then there's a hat with the

(04:18):
jackass ears to really humiliatethe child even further.
So I mean, it was just all bad.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
You know I'm going to because that is brutal and
that's hard to listen to, so I'mgoing to go to a little bit
lighter form.
A little bit lighter form oftorture, and this torture for me
is personally what I witness,and maybe I'm wrong, being a
male, I don't know, but Ipersonally Smelling my dirty
clothes.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
Is that torture too?
Yeah, it's pretty rank.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
I'll tell you what I'm glad they're in the speed
cycle right now.
But I mean one thing I've gotto say because some of the
places not all, it's very unfair, seemingly, to women.
You're going to a bathroom here.
Now, for those of you who havenot been to Europe and such many
of these bathrooms, there's notoilet seat.

(05:05):
You know, if you look at yourtoilet at home, you've got your
toilet seat.
You lift the toilet up, youknow, and do your thing, the
proper gentleman, if you're aproper gentleman right, but
there's no toilet seat.
I didn't take the seat and I'mlike how are these ladies forced
to sit on a toilet with notoilet seat?
You?

Speaker 3 (05:25):
fall in and your butt's already wet and you're
trying to hold on to whateveryou can hold on to, oh my God.
And I came out of the bathroomand I said, ron, was your toilet
seat broken off?
There was no toilet seat inthere.
He goes, nope, I didn't have atoilet seat either.
And there's nothing.
There's no bars, no, nothing tohold on to.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
So you know, know, you're just like hovering that's
a good word to say you're justkind of just over it.
And then I noticed to liketoday is the first time I've run
into it, but I think it was inGermany where I was running into
the fact that a lot of thesebathrooms have motion detector
lights.
So you're in there on thebathroom and then the lights go
out and you're like what's goingon here?

Speaker 4 (06:01):
Me too, in that right mid and the light went out as
soon as I said.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
oh, come on, you know , because I got frustrated, it
came back on, it's just a recipefor disaster If someone's bound
to turn around.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
You're just hoping you're still on target for a
minute but, you're like whycan't the lights come on?

Speaker 2 (06:20):
And then you gotta pay.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
It costs a euro, so you have to make sure you keep a
pocket full of coins.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
I just imagine, you know.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
First of all, you have to be in the toilet seat,
and you're in there doing this,just trying to get the lights to
work.
And then there's this otherthing.
I don't know, if we're rollingon in depth, what you guys think
about the half shower doors.
Have you experienced this in?

Speaker 2 (06:41):
your hotel.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Yeah, that's weird.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
I've been trying to figure out.
Well, how does it close thewhole way out?
It does not, no, uh-uh.
You basically have to aim theshower head towards the wall and
hope for the best.
In fact, I was telling the boysjust today I had left mine so
that it would be aimed towardsthe wall, so that when I turn it
on it would be fine, toward thewall so that when I turn it on

(07:10):
it would be fine.
Well, at some point thehousekeeping decided to reorient
it and I went in to hang up ashirt.
I like to run a little hotwater, get some steam and steam
wrinkles out of a shirt and Iturned the thing on and it just
soaked my t-shirt, my headt-shirt, my head.
I was just on the whole floorand here I was proud the day
before I got the one-thirdshower door didn't get a drop of
water on the floor.

(07:31):
I did great.
Then I go in there, get ashower, while standing in the
middle of the bathroom ratherthan in the tub.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Have you guys figured out a system with this yet?

Speaker 4 (07:40):
Nope, no you can't figure it out, huh Well the
first one.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
The first one, the first hotel we were at yeah,
that was easy because it was ahandheld job.
This one has a rain-type shower.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Oh you got a rain-type shower.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
And then a wand with all kinds of holes on it.
What's?

Speaker 4 (07:59):
that, for what are you talking about?
We're going back to Ryan'storture chamber thing.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Actually we do have a balcony, the one I got I had a
window.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
The other thing about my room I'm going to be like
your friend in Germanycomplaining about the room.
It's a beautiful room, it'svery nice.
I'm just disappointed becausewe got spoiled with the balcony
at the last place.
We don't have that.
Mine also gets the afternoonsun, so it's hot as blazes in
there, and as soon as I open thewindow either the flies start

(08:32):
coming in or I risk the pigeonsentering my room.
So you know I can't win.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
And no air conditioner.

Speaker 4 (08:39):
No air conditioner Because it's not April 30th or
whatever it is.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Not the right time of the year.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
You just reminded me of that.
In Ireland they have no airconditioning in any hotel room.
They don't put it out becauseit's usually raining.
But it's Ireland, yeah, theydon't have no air conditioning
anywhere in Ireland.
You know, one of the things thathappened today is we were, you
know, I was, as I said, you know, it's kind of a return trip for
me, coming to Florence andSiena and San Gimignano and

(09:06):
Tuscany and these places.
But then there was one otherplace and as we were leaving
this morning, the hotel roomfrom Florence and I was on our
coach and I'm thinking aboutthis other place that we had
gone.
That really stood out to me.
And the next thing, you know,our bus driver, niccolo, was

(09:32):
pulling into it and what it is,it's the American Soldier
Cemetery in Florence.
Now, for those of you who maynot know, or probably maybe you
do know, there's a cemeterywhere so many young American
lives were lost liberating Italyfrom Mussolini, world War II.

(09:55):
And you go out there and yousee these crosses and I will
post some of them and I'veposted them before.
But just going out there andseeing, and you know, you think
about it, these are 18, 19,.
You know, we're blessed to bein our upper 30s now.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
And everybody here come on.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
It's like who what?

Speaker 4 (10:20):
Average age 21.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
No, but no.
I mean, these guys are 18, 19,20 young men and that's when
their lives ended, you know, andthere they rest, for all of us
to go visit them and see.
You know, these are heroes, andso our liaison today, this was

(10:42):
the highlight of my day, otherthan you know, hanging out with
this wonderful group, pat'sPeeps group.
The highlight of my day as wepulled into this cemetery, this
American cemetery in Florence,our liaison Marco.
He started to tell us a storyright about his was it his?
Grandparents?

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Do you remember where the 12-year-old was shot by the
Nazis?

Speaker 3 (11:05):
for fun, they were playing volleyball on the beach
and they said I believe it was aplane came down and strafed the
beach and shot everybody on thebeach For the heck of it,
12-year-olds, and apparently washe.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Was that a relative of his?
I didn't quite hear.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
I think it was a cousin or it was somebody.
It was a relative of his.
I didn't quite hear.
I think it was a cousin or itwas somebody.
It was a relative.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
So someone in his family Now think about that,
these Nazis, you know, comingdown over a beach where kids are
playing volleyball and shooting12-year-olds and little kids.
And as he was talking aboutthis and he was also talking
about some of his, I think, hisgrandfather or something he
began to really get emotional,as you can imagine, and it was a

(11:49):
very touching moment.
When he got so emotional.
And I sit at the front of thiscoach because I need to do
social media and shoot out thefront window of the coach so I
can post for conservative toursand such.
So I'm sitting right behindMarco and when he got emotional
like that, usually I let thepeople to my left get out first.
I try to be courteous, let theother people out first, but

(12:12):
right away I jumped out and Iwanted to go out there and shake
his hand or give him a littlehug and tell him hey, man.
And so I go out there and Igave him a little hug and I said
, hey, I'm so sorry, god blessyour family.
And he was so emotional and hehe said, and it really touched

(12:32):
me and made me think when hesaid, he said in the midst of
crying, essentially god blessamericans.
And then he goes god blessamericans.
He gave me a squeeze and I wentwow, you know, that makes me so
proud to be an american and toremember these guys who lost
their lives, and I just thoughtthat was a touching moment.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
It was touching for me too.
I was by the time I got out ofthe bus.
I was crying as well, and andit was so heartfelt when he said
America saved us, they gave usour freedom.
And he was so appreciative.
And there was so much emotionfrom him and it was.
I was just standing therelooking at, was there 10,000

(13:14):
crosses.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Is that how many?
He says yeah, and then?

Speaker 3 (13:19):
there was over a thousand missing in action,
names on the wall besides thosecrosses and it was hard to
imagine that that many young menfought for another country,
that we gave these men to thiscountry to fight for it.

(13:40):
And Markle really understandsand I remember him saying that
something about his grandmabeing in, was she in a camp or
something and they were starvingher.
I was way in the back of the busand they gave her some type of
chocolate.
And when she eats that type ofchocolate and I don't even think

(14:02):
it's good chocolate, but she'llsay that's the best chocolate I
ever had because that was someof the food that they would give
them because they starved thosethat that they had imprisoned.
So everything was bad.
And then here, marco it yeah,he couldn't even talk, he, he
broke down in the middle oftalking and you could tell it

(14:24):
was purely coming from the heartand he named his son after his
grandfather.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Yes, Leonardo, yes yes, that's right, that was
amazing.
You know you hear that, andcome on in Shelly's joining us.
Shelly, hi, shelly, stylin'Stylin', as always, you know how
long will this take?

Speaker 3 (14:49):
I want to bring my unmentionables in.
Oh, is that right?

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Stop with the unmentionables.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Don't mention them.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Well, one thing about the unmentionables just so you
know Is he really doing this?
He's doing his laundry 100%.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
You know what they said.
They closed down at 10 pm.
Dan told me this right.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Yeah, down at 10 pm, dan told me this right, yeah,
well, this is what I heard.
So what did you?
I heard that if your laundry,wasn't done they closed the hard
close at 10 am or 10 pm, evenif your laundry is in there or
not.
But someone told me, if yourlaundry.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
If your skivvies, your stir dry in there, ryan dry
in Ryan hey, okay, yeah that's.
I guess that's the rule here.
That's the rule.
The rest of the laundry theydon't want to sit around making
laundry conditions.
At the lavenderia.
But to finish that thought it'sjust, it's amazing, you know,
because so many of us seem totake it for granted.

(15:42):
But we have.
Yeah, so many people now haveno idea of the history and we
simply take it for granted.
Either we live in this country,we don't realize how great we
have it in America.
You know, and people badmouthed this they have no idea,
and all these people gave theirlives so they can even say those

(16:02):
kind of things, even criticizetheir own country.
You know, so that's, you know,it's the same thing in Normandy.
You know, so that's, you know,it's the same thing in Normandy.
You know, when I went to France,we went to the D-Day beaches.
I don't know if you've beenthere or not, but on the D-Day
beaches in France they'll havethese little shops there, like
in Omaha Beach, all the beaches,utah and they just love

(16:26):
Americans.
When you walk into those storeslittle souvenir shops or what
have you it's almost a tributeto America.
They're just so thankful forAmericans, and that's one thing
that I do love about these tripsas well.
You think about all thebeautiful sights, the great food

(16:46):
, the wine, whatever, butthere's those things as well.
Okay, let's go back tosomething a little less serious
like food and wine.
Have you liked the food andwine?
We had a big dinner tonight.
You like?
The dinner today was okay.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, just too much.
It's too much, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
This is the first day we had three meals.
We were at breakfast and then,when we were at three meals, we
had breakfast and then, when wewere at uh I forget where
already.
The second place, san diego.
We had pasta, and then we haddinner.
Oh lord, it was a lot of starch, a lot of potatoes what have

(17:29):
you enjoyed?

Speaker 1 (17:29):
what kind of what have you?
Uh, what's?

Speaker 2 (17:31):
the best food you've had here so pasta and the pasta
pasta, yeah, I'd love that yeahand I like the fact that it's I

Speaker 3 (17:40):
learned something, though it is I like to cook and
I always heard people say pasta,make it al dente.
It's like you want to feel thetooth, you want to kind of have
a little bit of bite into it.
Well, when we started havingpasta here, I said is this
really what al dente is?
Because to me I'd say thisisn't cooked enough.

(18:03):
But then the next place we wentit was exactly the same and I
said I guess this is what aldente is and it's, I mean, a
whole wall.
Cook it where you know there'sa little bit of a chew to it.
This is pretty chewy, so yeah.
I learned that and we're aperfect match because she loves
to cook.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
I love to eat it.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
Is that right?
We're working a guy out for it.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
That's right there.
Yeah, that works out just aboutright.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
I had some risotto like like mushroom risotto today
it was really good.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
We went to Siena today.
So Siena is a very unusualplace.
I mean just great history.
How would we describe it, dan?
It's like they have thesedistricts Essentially, it's you
know these districts.
They call them tribes.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Tribes.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah, like there's the what there's?
The snail tribe, snail, yeah,the turtle Turtles, panther, the
geese Geese, yeah.
And so it's this incredibly oldmedieval town with very narrow
streets, and in the middle ofSan Gimignano there is a plaza,
or Siena, excuse me, sienathere's a big plaza and around

(19:17):
this huge plaza, which is justbasically a big open space, I
guess, for lack of a better wayto describe it you know there's
really fine restaurants andthings sitting around there, so
you can just enjoy yourselfthere and look at the plaza.
But one of the cool thingsabout it, they have these horse
races in Siena, right?
Yes?

Speaker 4 (19:37):
It's just amazing, and you know, if anybody wants
to see what one of those lookslike in the movie Under the
Tuscan Sun.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Under the Tuscan.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Sky.
There's a little short portionof it that shows the horse race,
so it shows all the peoplethere.
It's a wonder they don't getrun over by the horses.
Wait, they show that under theTuscan sky, under the Tuscan sky
yeah, there's a little shortportion of it, of the horse race
, yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Who's the actress in that?
Diane?
No, not Diane Keaton.
Diane Ladd Diane.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Ladd.
Yes, who is Diane Ladd?
Is it Diane Ladd that was inthat movie, or did I get that?

Speaker 1 (20:16):
wrong?
No, I have no idea Where's KenDogg when I need him.
Is it Diane Ladd?
No, who is it?
Did I get that right?
Who is it?

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Is she in Under the Tinted?
That is?
Oh my god, I had never been toItaly, at that point I go had
the biggest crush on her.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
I remember thinking I'm moving to Italy.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
Cheryl was a Diane Lane.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Diane Lane.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Oh my god, I I even know she was, and I just that's
a good looking girl right there.
He beat her up.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Oh my God, I didn't even know who she was.
I have the biggest crush on her.
It made me want to move toTuscany and meet her or someone
like that.
You've got to write a book.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
You have to write a book.
She reviewed books in themovies.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
I didn't even know what I was talking about before
that you got me thinking aboutthat.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
Horse racing.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Oh the horse racing.
So that's in that movie.
Okay, I already wanted tore-watch that because of her.
Now I want to re-watch itbecause I forgot that was in the
movie.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
That corner that the guy sits, where the horses
sometimes fall.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
I know it shows a horse falling on that corner, so
they race down these streets.
Dan goes.
How do these horses go down astreet without slipping and
falling?
I mean, how do they do that?

Speaker 2 (21:45):
That's what you were saying.
I was Pretty much that's a hardsurface on a hard surface,
that's not going to work in arace.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
And then they said that if it didn't matter, where
did she go?

Speaker 3 (21:56):
I think I chased her away.
Oh, it didn't matter if thehorse, if the jockey fell off
the horse.

Speaker 4 (22:03):
The horse could still win.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
The horse could still win.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
Yeah, it was by herself.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Well, did you hear how they did it?
They brought tons of sand in.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Horses couldn't run without breaking their legs on
stone, yeah, so could youimagine all the work it takes to
bring all the sand in?
Well, that's okay.
That's why they did it.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
Well that's why.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
That's why why they didn't hurt themselves.
They weren't going on thatslick stone like that.
They were on that sand.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
Okay, that was cool by the way, pat, we've changed
the subject.
Pat, pat, pat, pat, did youforget your converter for the
power here in Italy at the?

Speaker 1 (22:43):
hotel, yes, I did.
The last hotel, I did.
And my battery charger, ah well, which was plugged into the
converter.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
At least you can charge your phone, because now
you have a new converter that Ifound across the street from the
hotel so you can plug somethingin there and plug in your phone
.
Really, of course, that wasvery nice, ryan.
That was really nice.
It had to be done.
Wow, I went over there lookinga very nice drink.
That was really nice, had to bedone.
Wow, I went over there lookingfor a cold drink.

(23:12):
It's the only thing they don'tsell in that store.
You need a new metal spoon, youneed a mop, you need some
glasses for your drinkingglasses.
They got all that andelectronic stuff like crazy.
Not one bottle of water in thisstore.
But they have the power adapterand that's a universal.
I don't know how they'reoperated, but it's got US, UK,

(23:33):
Australia, so you can turn thatthing.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Wow, that was very nice of you.
Well, it needed to be done.
Thank you, like I had to,strike while the iron was hot.
Thank you, Ryan.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
All right.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
I want to say that about.
That's another thing aboutabout and we did mention this, I
think, on a previous podcast,but I'll mention it on Pat's
Peeps 240, is that this grouptakes care of each other.
If someone needs something, youknow they go out of their way
to do something nice for you,and I just think that says a lot
about this group of people.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
Oh, I know what I wanted to ask.
Devin and Ron Is this yourfirst conservative tourist trip?
Yes, it's our first Ever.
So now you've talked about whatyou thought of the trip.
What do you think about the wayKen puts it together?

Speaker 3 (24:16):
It's fabulous Ken does a great job of putting this
together.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
We were a little bit reluctant.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
I mean, we're seniors and my kids were like I don't
know if you guys should head offto Europe by yourself.
You don't know the language,you've never been there, so we
were a little bit reluctant.
But listening to you for such along time and talking about all
the trips and how much fun itis, I used to work at a hospital

(24:44):
and I would drive home at nightand I would listen to you my
whole trip home and every singletime I'd listen to you.
I'd'd say I want to go on oneof those trips.
Well, he wasn't in the car withme because I was commuting and
right before we booked the triphe was in the car with me and I
had told him a little bit aboutyou and that came on the radio

(25:04):
and I said word, what do youthink?
Let's go on on that trip.
Let's give it a try.
Yep, and so we called Ken and,oh my goodness, he answered all
of our questions.
He told us that 50 or 60percent of the people go book
another trip and then it's kindof like family and that's what

(25:24):
we noticed at the airport,everybody was hugging each other
.
And we were like, well, whereare you from?
And we, actually, we live inWilton and we met somebody that
lives in Rancho Murrieta, whichis right five miles from us and
they go to our same church andso there's so many people that
know each other.

(25:45):
We got lost a little bit tryingto make our way home yesterday
and we saw some other people inour group and they said, oh,
let's get our boat out, let'skind of figure out where we need
to go.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Jim and Laura yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
And so we man it.
Just we have felt so taken careof.
There's nothing that you haveto do.
All the trips are planned foryou, all the excursions that you
want to go on, and there's aschedule.
And and Marco is amazing, hemakes us laugh every day and all

(26:18):
the different history that welearn.
You know, I had no idea I wasgoing to learn so much and I've
been doing a Facebook postalmost every day and all the
people on my page go wow, thankyou for all the history and all
the information you know.
So I thought, well, I'm goingto pay it forward.
I mean, I'm just jaw droppedwhen I listened to all the

(26:40):
different things.
And then I put it on my pageand I'm getting good feedback
from other people saying, wow,this is pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
I'm going to.
I want to go on your page andlook at what you're posting.
Let's see what everyone's doing.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
Yeah, we all have to add each other on Facebook as
well.
And, if I might, because youknow Ken doesn't pay me.
Pat and I worked together foryears at KFBK, but I don't work
there anymore.
He's not a sponsor of anythingI do.
But I would say, have youmentioned conservative tours
specifically in your Facebookpost?

(27:10):
Okay, that's great, becausethat's you know, all that does
is make more of these thingshappen, and the other thing I
want to say and unfortunately,Ken hasn't spent a lot of time
with us on this tour becausehe's got three groups going at
once.
But if you ever have anopportunity to be on one of
these things where Ken is withyou, his knowledge of all of
these areas as it relates toWorld War II is encyclopedic.

(27:33):
It is Like Pat and I, you haveto have notes or you print out a
story you want to talk aboutand I have scripts.
As a news reporter, ken doesall that stuff off the top of
his head.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Ron would love it.
He's a high school historyteacher.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
He's retired now.
Once a history teacher always ahistory teacher.
By the way, if anyone listeningright now thinks you know that
actually does sound pretty good,I wonder where they're going
next.
That sounds like something I'dlike to do.
We're going to Sicily thisOctober, late October.
We'll be there at the very endof October and through November

(28:10):
the 5th I believe it is.
For whatever reason, I don'thave my name on the Concert of
Tours website right now, whichI'm going to have to address
that.
But you'll see it, I'll be theone that doesn't have a name on
there, for whatever reason.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
All the other hosts do.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
But I also want to say, deb, because I'm not going
to let this conversation endwithout telling you how much I
appreciate you telling me thatyou listen to my show on your
way home from work.
And you could be listening toanything out there, you could be
listening to music, you couldbe listening to whatever, and

(28:46):
you listen to my show.
I am so thankful, on top ofthat and I'm sure that you
certainly listen to your kidsand their advice that you listen
to their advice.
And then you hear my girls like, yeah, I think we're going to
go, come on now, that's what Iwant to hear.

Speaker 4 (29:04):
I thank you for that.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
We were like, how do we get a hold of Conservative
Tours and see what's in thefuture?

Speaker 4 (29:10):
Because we thought, well, we'll try this
Conservatitvetourscom and sowe're excited to figure out
what's the next.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
What's the next place to pick up?
Well, cicely's in.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
October He'll do another one of the Normandy
D-Day trips.
I still haven't been on thatone, so maybe we'll end up on
that one together.
Let's see He'll do.
He keeps doing the Amalfi CoastSouthern Italy tour.
That one is beautiful becausethat's the first one I went on
with Pat.
And, by the way, if anybody iswondering, that sound you hear

(29:37):
in the background is my clothestumbling in the dry.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
We're at the Laundromat in Florence, Italy.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Just a reminder of that Beach 240.
No unmentionables in there,though it's just shirts, I
promise.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Right, well, listen.

Speaker 4 (29:53):
Ryan, you got like a half hour before they shut this
bad boy down.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Here's another cool thing, by the way, too, Ron and
Deb.
So you're listening to my showthis time and here we are
together doing a podcast whichyou've never listened to, my
podcast.
I'm just going to say that yousaid that, Not that you don't
want to.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
I didn't even know you had a podcast, really, other
than I listened to your radioshow, and I do think you've
mentioned it a couple times.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Like five times an hour.
But, if you didn't hear it I'llunderstand.
But at least five to six timesan hour At some point.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
Deb has to concentrate on driving.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Well, I don't think she wrecks just because she's
listening to my show.
If I say Pat speaks, what?

Speaker 4 (30:35):
I've gotten in a couple of wrecks listening to
your show.
Well, I sure you have actually.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
And it was funny because I didn't even know what
you looked like.
So I went online and we foundyour picture and then I told Ron
and I said oh, we've got tofind him.
We really got to find him andtell him how cool it is that,
because of you, we're here.
If I had not been listening toyou and heard about all the
trips that you go on and you'reso animated when you talk about

(31:03):
them, about how much fun you'vehad and all the different things
you get to go to, I mean thatjust I thought man, how could we
go wrong?

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Thank you, and when you say all the things you get
to go to, that's the part thatit kind of blows me away.
I start to think about it.
For instance, on this trip herein Florence, saw David
Michelangelo's David Okay, it'sthe second time I've seen it
Trevi Fountain, you know, inRome I've seen it.
But then you start talkingabout Germany and you start

(31:33):
about the Eagle's Nest, which isa very controversial thing.
But the American Allied Forcestook over the Eagle's Nest,
which is a home given to Hitlerby Mussolini, and initially when
I thought, well, gee, do I wantto go there?
I was reluctant.
And then someone said no, whywould you be reluctant?
This shows what the AlliedForces did.

(31:54):
They took this thing home andsaid you're out and we're going
to make this what it is supposedto be.
Okay, seeing the Eiffel Tower inFrance, as I mentioned, the
D-Day beaches, notre Dame, Icould go down this whole list of
things.
That is just such a blessing.
I never thought, not only did Iever think I'd get to see, but

(32:16):
I never thought I'd be able totravel with such a great group
of people and see it with otherpeople.
So thank you, and it's coolbecause it's not.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
When you think of vacation and group vacations,
you think there's going to be alot of people and you're going
to crowded places and you'regoing to maybe have a guided
tour or not.
But it's just when we went toPisa and we went to that church
and we listened to Robertotelling us all about it.

(32:45):
I mean, I walked into thatchurch and I was in awe at how
many years ago that thing wasbuilt and how they did
everything that they did.
So, being able to go to all thedifferent places, hear people
that have lived here and knowthe history and giving it back

(33:05):
to us in smaller groups andanswering questions, that's the
kind of vacation I want to do.
Good, good, good good.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
One of the things I will always as I've said to a
few people too is I've beenfortunate enough to again come
over here a few times to theconservative tours with this
Pat's Peaks groups, and so I'veseen a lot of different places,
as Ryan was saying.
You know I've been to amulti-coast, so it kind of gives
you an opportunity to findmaybe a place that you like and

(33:36):
you go.
Oh, if I were to come back, andmaybe on my own or with your
husband, you come here and youwant to spend a couple of weeks
or whatever, a month, who knows,and you go, that might be the
place that I would go there andI would start there and say you
know, I want to stay in thiscity for a while and explore
around this area.
So, because we go to so manyplaces, you kind of get an idea

(33:59):
of what you're learning, whatit's all about, absolutely,
absolutely.
So hey, I think we're going towrap it up here and I want to
say thank you to, first of all,to Ron and Deb for joining us
unbelievably at night in alaundromat in Florence, italy,
when they could be doinganything else in the world.

(34:21):
Danny Boy, my best friend, ryan, my other best friend.
We're here in this laundromatand thanking you for listening.
That's what we're doing.
I truly appreciate it.
Someone said to me you're goingto have to start this over.
Someone said to me as we cameback to the hotel tonight and I
apologize All of a sudden Ican't remember who said it she
reached out to me.

(34:41):
She says Pat, would you pleasesomewhere on your podcast this
week, since we're in Italy, playMamma Mia by ABBA by request.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
By request.
Pat's Creeps 240.
Here we go, baby.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Pat's Creeps here we go, baby.
Go ahead, ryan.
Go ahead, ryan, here we go.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Let her out.
Let her out.
So I've made up my mind.
It must come to an end.
Look at me now.
Will I ever learn?
I don't know how, but Isuddenly lose control.

(35:32):
There's a fire within my soul.
Can I get here a better way?
Can I forget everything?
So, can I get here a better day?
Can I forget everything?
Mamma mia, here I go again.
My my, how can I resist you?
Mamma mia, does it show again?

(35:55):
My my, just how much I miss you.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
We'll see you tomorrow for Patch Peeps 241
from Lake Majore in Stresa.
See ya, I never let you go.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Mama mia.
Now I really know.
I bet I could never let you go.
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