Female Artists on the Rise: Stories of Resilience

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We back, we back, we back for another segment of
Don't Get Finesse RelationshipsWorth More Than Money podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Ooh.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Mm.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
That's what it's about.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
That's what it's about.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Relationships Worth More Than Money.
You always stood by that,because when I first met you,
that's the first thing you said.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Remember that was going to be the name of the
album that I did, but then Iswitched it to Terry Redd.
Yes, remember that?
Yes, so I was like you knowwhat, I'm sticking with it.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
You've always said that that's crazy, that sounds
good, though.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
To me it's like, yeah , you can get to the money.
I mean, you got street dudes,you got street chicks, you got.
However, you get it, however,you get it, but at the end of
the day it's all about therelationship that's going to
carry that further.
You know what I'm saying.
So I always tell people like itain't really about the money,
the money going to come, it'sabout relationships.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
I just told I had to get approval for a venue
location for a video by theowners and they was basically
saying like they respect that Icame and asked for permission
because a lot of people just usetheir property without um
having permission and I was likeit's about building
relationships and networking.
So you don't want to mess therelationships up when you can

(01:12):
have more opportunities to comeback and keep filming if I want
to you know, with yourpermission, of course, but um,
yeah, I understand that that's agood name you stuck with it.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, got to, had to, had to.
That's good.
I mean, at the end of the day,like it's bigger than just one
thing.
You know what I mean money comeand go.
Money come and go relationships.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
That's rare.
They don't last forever theydon't last forever.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
And then the ones that do.
That's when you know for sure.
Yeah, it's rare to getsomething good and solid.
Yeah, it's definitely cause, um, you never, you never know, you
never know you might havesomebody that's in your corner
then they go on the next, thenthey go on the next, talk about
it.
The holidays change.
It's always four quarters inthe year you know what I mean

(02:00):
maybe seasons.
I don't like that four quarters,four, you know what I mean.
Maybe seasons?
I don't like that.
Four quarters, four seasons, Idon't like that.
Yeah, but that's the thingthough, like, even though you
got four quarters and fourseasons, it's all about who stay
down.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
I don't.
It's not too many people, I cansay, to stay down.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Let's talk about it.
I mean for real.
For real, like I can, I knowfor a fact, like you know what I
mean.
Shit, since teenagers you knowwhat I mean, but you gotta, you
gotta, speak on it because theyneed, they need to know, they

(02:39):
need to know.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Oh, where do you want to start?
I mean, like.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
So we talked about the finesse game from Buddy from
Philly right.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Kind of made me not interested in doing any more
like videos or not videos likeshowcases.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, because when I was trying to get you to do a
showcase, you were like eh, andI did.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
I did that a lot like when something happened to me
tragic, or something that's likebig to me happened, I hold on
to it and then I take that thenext place.
I was like I don't want to dothat no more.
I don't like how that feel orhow that experience went.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
So I don't want to do it again.
I think too, man, sometimes yougotta go through it.
It's sad that you do, but it'slike you gotta get a bump on the
head to like figure out, likeis it really worth it or is it
not worth it?
You know what I'm saying, likebecause sometimes the finesse
game is to a whole nother level.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
I think it is.
I agree, probably some stuff Ihaven't even experienced yet,
but from what I've seen so far,yeah, like the text messages, I
mean not the text messages, theDMs.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Uh-huh, they be like yo, this is the game or this is
so-and-so.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
I got finessed like that from Cash Doll account.
I remember you told me that andI told you.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
I said be careful, you got mad at me, I was so mad.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
You got mad at me, I was like no, it's Cash Doll,
it's from her account.
It got the blue check and then,like a day or two later, she
made a video and said y'all, I'mso sorry.
Like that wasn't me, my pagegot hacked.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
She was like trust me like I don't need nobody money.
Yeah, because Cash Doll,definitely she down to earth.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, she is.
I could see that.
That's why I love Cash Doll.
She's super down to earth.
I was so pressed I'm like look,cash Doll hit me.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
I'm like I don't know .
I'm like that, don't look right.
He was like no, it's Cash Doll.
I'm telling you, I'm like that,don't look right, man, Because
she will call you.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah, I feel like it was to that point when she
really was fucking with me.
If I was even that big and madethat much noise, she would have
been like what's up?
Like I fuck with your son.
I feel like she would directlydo it.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
I was so pissed, I'm like Cash on.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Paige.
I really thought like, oh bitch, this is it Like I love Cash on
.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
But she, she, uh, I'm glad she did do that, because
someone won't even do that.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
They don't, They'll just let it be whatever and like
what you think, whatever,because I guess all publicity is
good, I guess.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, some publicity ain't though it's not.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
It's not because I'm glad she did, because I kept.
I was like this is weird.
Like hey, y'all reaching out.
Like yeah, send me your tracks.
I'm like on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Right Tracks, though Tracks who says that yeah, man,
that's two, so that's two,finesses you got finessed twice.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yes, I've been finessed.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, you got finessed twice.
Two, yeah, but um, some ofthese folks, uh, you know they
come and go Mm-hmm, but let'stalk about, like, the music.
When I first met you.
Okay, let's run it back.
What song, was it?
What?
My um, I think it was like twosongs in one, and that's when

(06:01):
Mia was with you.
Yeah, mia was with you.
Yeah, mia was with you.
You still talk to me no see,you just said things come and go
relationships come and go.
Yeah, no, dang that's crazyunfortunately not yeah, but I
remember cause you was writingmhm and um.

(06:21):
What was the name of the song?

Speaker 2 (06:26):
um.
Was it www or it was two songs?
It was.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
It was a freak song at the end yeah, it was, but I
know it was two songs and thenyou, you, uh, you played some
more music and I'm like yo, thisshit hard like that's, when I
really was getting into my rap,and I'm like yo this shit hard.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
That's when I really was getting into my rap.
Yeah, and I'm like why youain't what we doing, what you
doing.
I was scared, oh my God.
I was scared because I'm likethey not going to like it, they
not going to really Listen,ain't nobody going to support it
If I put it out, oh my God.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Nah, the joint was already To me.
I feel like what you're doingnow Mm-hmm.
No, what you was doing backthen is what they're doing now.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
So that's what I'm looking like, and I don't like
to be the person that be like.
See, I'm glad you see that Itold you so.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
And I always learn the hard way, like that.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
When what I'm not doing, I'm already doing it.
But I don't see it as that.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
So then, like I kind of Because everybody that's out
right now, all the big Doing.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
all the shit that I was doing back then was just
crazy.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Saying everything still rapping, saying everything
you were saying.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
You got.
Sometimes I'm just now learningthat you got to like believe in
yourself and like stick to that, because I always, I always
come up with a dope ass idea andthen, when I don't do it, I'll
see a bigger artist doing it andI'll be like yeah, oh my God,
that would have been fire.
I knew it would have.
That's so crazy.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
It always happened to me like that and for real, like
cause, I was like yo, I Yo, Isaid Glorilla.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
I say Tina Snow, she was out around the same time.
I love Megan, but you wastalking that.
Talk too.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
I was.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
You was talking that.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
talk too, that's what made y'all was like yo Because
she can rap.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Hell, yeah, and I be trying to tell people yeah, I
mean women going to talk abouttheir bodies, and that's good.
I want them to.
You know what?

Speaker 2 (08:27):
I mean, I think that's why I did that mix in
that song.
I did that one track where Iwas talking about shit like a
nigga and then the second trackwas like all right, but I could
talk like this too.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
You can get both of them, and that when women be
rapping about all of that.
But if you think about it, yougo back and listen to their raps
, what they talking about.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
They talking about the same thing.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
The same thing.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
They talking about pussycars, clothes, jewelry and
drugs, and drugs.

Speaker 1 (08:51):

Speaker 2 (08:52):
It's always the same.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Y'all might just be y'all might X out the drugs and
then just substitute it with Idon't even think like that Pass
me the J in the song.
Yeah you know what I'm saying.
You know weed to me is likeit's medicinal, so I don't use
that as like y'all, that's whaty'all, y'all don't be.
Some of them do.
But when you would rap I'd belike yo.

(09:15):
That got harder.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Ooh.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
I'm like yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
That was just the beginning for me, yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
And then we used to, we used to pull up at the old
spot at the townhome and I'd belike what the fuck she coming
from with this Cause you be likeyo, you, you have to do let me
pull up.
I want to just do it, I like.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
I love, I still love being in the studio.
That's like my safe space whereI can go vent and just clear my
head.
So, like that's what I used todo, because I used to be going
through shit, so anything Iwrote about and came to record
with you, that's because I justwent through that and I done put
it in this song and I gotta letit out and then I want to hear
it back in my own ears and youused to like, you used to make

(09:58):
me produce your beats.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Oh, yeah, yeah, so like, because I have, you know
me.
I got a ton of beats and you belike mm-mm.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
It was the sound I was looking for, Right?
I'm like I used to, so when Ifirst started doing music and
people would send me beats, Iwould just accept whatever they
gave me before I knew my sound.
But then I was like that's whatI got started looking for.
So when you would play me yourbeats I'd be like it's okay it

(10:29):
sounds like I need to be rappingdifferent on here.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
I would get pissed.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
But I understood, though I was like no PZ.
You made it from start tofinish and I'm like, but it's
not my sound.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
But it helped me though, and I always tell people
that.
I always tell people that I'mglad it pushed you and didn't
make you feel like you gosomewhere else.
Even when you produce, youthinking like, when I produce,
I'm producing on what I felt,just like how y'all write you
sensitive about your shit.
Yeah, so when you was like nah,I would get pissed because I'm
like nah, this is the-.

(11:06):
I remember that.
I'm like nah, this is-.
But it was one though.
I'm like nah, this is you, thisis your lane.
It was super simple.
What was the V?
I?
forgot it was like- yeah, I hadto play it after this.
I think I for sure got it.
But it was like Because I'mdive into the female realm, so
that's why I wouldn't get supermad, I'd just be like she
bullshit.
I know this beat will go hard,but I was like you know what,

(11:29):
let me go into her world,because that's what you got to
do you got to think Like if you?
Writing for somebody else.
Yeah, you got to go into theirworld.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
So I was like you know what, All right, bet I
taking like them trap simplebeats, because I knew you can
build around it, because that'swhat that was the thing like
sometimes.
Yeah, yeah, you just take itout.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, take it out.
Take, take some of theinstruments out and let her just
, let let people just go, andthen you can add to it, if you
want to add to it or not.
So then after that I was like,oh yeah, okay, I see where she,
because when we recorded thatone I forgot what song, but I
don't even think you put it outeither.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
I had a lot of songs I didn't put out.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
That's what I'm saying but it was that one when
you just went in because you waslike yo, I'm going to be back.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
And then you came back and you just went through
the whole song and I work onthis track and I have it done
like before I go to the studio.
I want to know how I'm gonnasay it where.
I'm gonna take a pause.
That's a punch in that, like Itold myself that.
That's why it would be easy forme to come and record you and

(12:36):
just say it full out yeahbecause, when you came, I'm like
okay, she.
I knew it.
I was like I was ready.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Like you, you did something different, because you
know like you would come and Iwould charge you little to
nothing.
And I was just like it wasaffordable too.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
I was like, oh yeah, Let me put my money to the side,
and it's going to go to Tweezybefore I can record it.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Because I just I felt I'm not about to charge you an
arm and a leg.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Thank you, because back then I wasn't sitting like
I'm sitting now.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Right but even then, if you were sitting, how you
were sitting, like I wasn'tgoing to charge you because I
know we was building something.
And I was just like, nah, Iain't going to do that.
And I was like yo, like what begoing on in your head?
For, like, artist wise, like tohelp the other?
You know female artists outthere, or male artists, like how

(13:27):
do you?
Thank you for saying that?

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Cause we didn't talk about that.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Okay, yeah, like cause, how do you like set
yourself up for the studio, likewhat's your, what's your prep,
like your prep time when you,when you working on your music
or you hear something?

Speaker 2 (13:42):
So, in order for me to write at all, I think my
thing is when I'm going throughshit, and when I'm going through
shit like my mind all over theplace I don't know where to
start.
I know I want to writesomething, but I don't know what
I want to write, but my mind islike just write what's going on
.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
I could tell you how I'm feeling about it.
You know maybe a little bitmore in there, but just like
write the first thing to come tomind, like what happened.
Like that's where I'll start.
What happened, how it made mefeel, and then I start talking
about, like what I could havedid or what should have happened
in the situation.
So that kind of helped me buildthe song.
That kind of helped me buildthe song, and then from there,

(14:24):
like once I like find me a beatto go with it sometimes I can
either have the lyrics alreadyready or I might find me a beat
that made me be like this iswhere I'm going at, this is
where I'm going with it and then, like once, I can find like the
melody of how I want to playthis back, like we'll put this
here, make it come together.

(14:45):
It's kind of like a puzzle thingtype of thing for me mentally.
Once I put it together, then Iknow how I want to say it.
I rehearse it a couple times,like I got a million drafts.
I use a little app to recordmyself with the beat and behind
my vocals and just to hear how Iwant it to sound when I do go
to the studio.
So when I come to you I'll belike, nah, nah, right, here is

(15:08):
where I want to say this line,because I know how I got it
lined up.
So yeah, so once I go over mydrafts and I hear myself back
and then I finally get a wholefull out draft of me, all my
vocals and how I want myplacements and stuff, then I'm
like, all right, yeah, now I'mready to go record.
Okay, so when I go record Ijust sound like I was ready

(15:30):
because I've been practicingLike I've been getting on my
shit Like.
I built up to how I wanted tocome and do it.
Not always that helped me inand out quick, Like I could
record a song, a whole song, inan hour.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Okay, yeah, you spoke on the part where I was like
male and female.
Yes, what about it?

Speaker 2 (15:54):
So it's this thing I get hip-hop is supposed to be
male-dominant industry, right,and of course we got female
hip-hop.
Yeah, supposed to be maledominant industry, right, and of
course we got female hip hop,yeah.
You know like we like theunderdogs in the industry, but
right now we taking over Y'allthe top dogs, we taking over

(16:16):
Y'all the top dogs.
Now everybody's starting tolike pay attention to females
because they going just as hardas the niggas.
And I feel like I'm in thisplace where, when I ask
producers like send me beats,they send me the most girliest
shit.
I'm like listen.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
They listen to you.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
They don't.
Oh, it blows my mind becauseI'm like, do you listen to me?
Have you listened to any of mymusic?
Like, do I sound like all Iwant I could talk about Poppin'
Pussy and Got my Nails.
I could be that I could do that.
But like, if you really listento me and like you a fan of what
I do or like just a supporterof what I do, overall, you'll

(16:57):
know like I listen to real niggashit, like I love Young Dolph I
always tell people this I loveGucci man.
I like Listen to Dirk Moneybagg.
Yo, like I like their cadenceand that's what I relate to more
than I do to females and Ialways been like that.
I always related more to niggasthan I have females.
So I'm like why they just won'tlike accept me as I can be in,

(17:21):
I can go head to head witheither one men or female, but
don't put me in the categorieswith the women, because, oh, I'm
supposed to shake my ass, lookcute and talk about titties and
all that.
It's cute every now and then,but I pop my shit like a nigga
too, I think what it's going totake-.
They don't see us equal.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, what it's going to take is for you to actually
get on one of those records withanother dude oh, I already got
something.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
I got something coming, you do.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
I got something coming.
You can't speak on it though,can you?
Uh-uh, all right, I'll besitting back waiting.
I'm going to be dropping soon.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
I say because I feel like this year is like my year,
when I say send me beats, theysend me the girliest shit, but
then they'll send some niggas,some Dolph shit, or they'll send
them some Gotti shit, Like whythey get them beats and I get
the yup, yup, like I don't wantthat.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
So who's sending the beats?
Are they from this area or arethey from everywhere they be?

Speaker 2 (18:16):
for everywhere.
Because originally, like youknow, when you first sign up
with BeatStars and then when youstart buying beats on there or
YouTube, they send you, likekeep sending you beats.
But then eventually I startedreaching out, like on people on
my social media, on my storyyeah, I would be like just send
me beats and I would post myemail.
So sometimes I just get randombeats like hey, taz, I seen that
you posted this, listen to thispack Right, and I would get

(18:41):
beats'm not feeling like that.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, I think sometimes with producers when
they get those emails, they seeyou.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
They're not listening though.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
And try to put what they see.
Oh yeah, I'm about to.
I'm about to send these type ofbeats Instead of like, really
like, studying you, yes, andthen send them.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yes, please.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Study me.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
I have to tell them.
I'll be like hey, don't send meno bitch beats, I swear, ask
anybody who sent me a beat.
I'll be like don't send me nofemale beats.
Send me that hard shit that youwould this person, that person.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
So, out of the females, who are you listening
to?

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Megan Megan.
I got an actual whole femaleplaylist right now.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
I'm pretty sure you.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
I figured that Girls, the girls is up, it's our year,
it's our summer, it's ourseason.
Of course, megan Glow, she beendoing her big one.
Yeah, she been watching Hergirl Gloss Up.
I love her sound because she'sSouthern, like I got that

(19:46):
Southern accent and I love it.
There's just something about itand they just everybody sound
like they hard.
Who else?
Who else?
I said else, see, look, myaccent came out.
What's the girl?
Is it Anaya Elise?
She be like huh, yeah, I likeher.
She got that deep, raspy voice.
I like that.
I got.
Who else?
Of course, you know Cardi.

(20:07):
She been dropping her singleslately.
I got a whole playlist full ofgirls.
Yeah, I don't.
Who else have I been cranking,though?
Female, that might be it rightnow.
I got some men mixed in theretoo, like the folder called my A
folder.
There too, it's my.
The photo called my A folder,my A folder.

(20:28):
It's just like A like my turnup.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah, a A.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
A yeah, like A like.
It's the turn up folder.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
So yeah, that's my girl folder, but oh yeah, them
the main females.
I haven't came across no newup-and-coming people, I think.
Oh, kenderman Mm-hmm, her, she,cold she is.
That's the one who I opened upfor in Houston.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Oh, that's right, and I was about to ask you that I
was about to ask you, I'm likeoh.
I saw you down in Houston.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
What the hell you doing in Houston, Houston For
real.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yes, Told you.
H-town man Shout out to H-Town.
Shout out to H-Town Jesus,h-town be poppin'.
Did you go to camp?
Where do we go?
I don't know what spot you wasat, but I know camp, camp Pop.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Was it camp.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
No, I don't think it was camp.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Did they have?

Speaker 1 (21:20):
on like little camp outfits, the girls.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Well, they all had, they all matched my shit.
They all had them pink.
So I can't remember the name,don't get me, but I'm going to
look it on my page, but it wasso it was everything.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, my bro Nwosu, he from H-Town, he had us, he
was our God.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
He had us man, he was everywhere.
I freaking loved it.
And for that to be like myfirst real big crowd Because
that was her crowd they came tosee her but it was important?

Speaker 3 (21:51):
Did they rock with?

Speaker 2 (21:51):
it.
Oh my God, let me tell yousomething.
Down south they fuck with me.
That's why I go down there, butyou always know like.
Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
They always Like my first time going To Atlanta,
like they show so much love.
I was like damn, like I gottacome back.
But you always know Atlanta,yeah, they always Like my first
times Going to Atlanta, likethey show so much love.
I was like damn, like I gottacome back.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Like you would've thought, I've been putting music
out Like for years and I hadbuilt this fan base when you
from Normally gonna be the lastpeople to pick up On your music
Everywhere else.
Gonna rock with you Before thepeople.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Your hometown.
I tell people that I would belike I wish my city or at least
I kind of look at it differentnow.
Back then I used to look at itlike I wish my city supported me
, because they weren't.
Everybody had that mindset likeI ain't making it, you ain't
making it.
So I would just be like I'mjust going to creativity
elsewhere because you know, inAtlanta they got so many

(22:42):
different creative things downthere, like they got pop up
shops, trap museums they come upwith, you know, all these trap
artists.
Like they sound as different,what they do is different and
it's really creative.
So I was like let me just tryto go out there.
Atlanta is like black Hollywood.
So I went out there and thenthat was like the best response

(23:05):
I got.
That made me motivated evenmore.
I was like okay.
So like when I got to do theHouston one and I had a real big
crowd in front of me like someshit you see on Instagram, like
it's a real fucking show.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
You had nobody recording the footage.
Yeah, I did so, my manager mymanager.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
He do all the filming .
He do damn near like he do allmy filming whenever event we go
to, so we can get some goodcontent to put together.
But oh my God, it was crazy.
So like to kind of give you arundown on it, I work with Big
Cuz.
He's a producer who makes KendoMan's beats and other artists.

(23:43):
That's out from Houston too,and he worked with other artists
like's out from Houston too,and he worked with other artists
like Mo3.
Shout out to Big Cush.
Big Cush, shout out to my mans,he's super dope he is and he's
such a sweetheart so I loved himand his team so we got to link.
Finally, because he was tellingme about his events that he has

(24:03):
and he wanted me to perform ifI was interested.
You know, gave me my slot, theslot information and what was
available.
So I was like okay, so I madesure I booked that and just
being there, like when we gotthere, like the vibe, everybody
was friendly, everybody was hi,how are you?

Speaker 1 (24:21):
And I was like that text is a hospitality difference
.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
I'm so used to walking in the room and I'm
smiling and they like, yeah,they so butt hurt.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
It's like what?

Speaker 2 (24:31):
you mad.
Like I look good, you look good.
Like I want to compliment you,bitch, why you can't compliment
me, like why we can't have goodenergy.
It's just at other places.
But in Houston it was givenlike everybody was friendly, we
had a nice big section up at thefront where we was going to
perform at, and then over andthen, like I started, I like the

(24:54):
fact when I get to a placewhere I'm about to perform, that
I kind of get to read the roomand get comfortable like to see,
like what type of people I'mabout to perform for, and they
looked like they came to have agood time.
So when I got to see the otherartists and how they would
perform, I was like, okay, likeI know I could do this.
And when Ken got there, thatkind of gave me a little bit

(25:15):
more, like, okay, it's go time,all right.
So I got up there, me and mydancers, like we went off and
like their response was likethey started really yelling and
like it was like, oh, shit, it'shappening.
Then I started talking my shitmore, like okay, if you, a
pretty bitch, make somemotherfucking noise.
And they was like, okay, like Iseen phones and I'm like this

(25:39):
shit is really happening.
Okay, I was just like in themoment of when I rap, I be
blacking out and I'm like in myzone, but at the same time I was
shocked Like I ain't neverheard no shit like this.
So, down south.
Definitely they give me thelove I be looking for like at
home, but I think at home theymake you work a.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
I think it's to me they don't believe in it.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
They don't Not until they see it.
Now, when they see it from themposting my shit in different
outside of cities.
They be like yo, you doing yourthing.
I'm so proud of you, but when Iwas doing it here you didn't
support me.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Right, right, right.
And I be telling people all thetime it.
And I be telling people all thetime, like it's like one of
those mental battles you got togo through, like you got to
understand, like, hey, everybodyain't going to be in your
corner when you think they'regoing to be in your corner.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
And you know what I just learned?
I told the girl, my girl, herInstagram is love underscore
paper doll.
She had hosted a cosplay eventlast night.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
The cosplay chick yeah, she followed me, but I
didn't know who she was.
I followed her back.
You know me, I'm a follower.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah, that's my girl.
I used to work with her someyears ago, her real name is
Carla, but she's really intocosplay and we were talking
about my performance last night.
She's like yo, they reallyloved you and I was like last
night kind of.
It kind of made me change mymind of my thought of like my
city don't support me.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Right.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
And it kind of made me think it wasn't my city, it
was the people around me thatwasn't supporting me.
Yeah, yeah.
And that right there made me sayokay, because I've done so far
I think, three, three or four DCperformances in the past few
months, and every event it was asmall crowd or a big crowd,

(27:29):
they was making noise and I waslike, ok, it wasn't the city, it
was the people that was aroundme that really wasn't trying to
help me get to where I was goingLike.
So I think the city can supportyou.
It's got to get to know you, yougotta pop out somewhere remind
people like this is who I am,this is what I'm doing, and,

(27:50):
like the responses I got lastnight, like I thought it was
gonna be like a venue where Ithink it was supposed to be at
Metro Bar or something, but itwas at City Trends in Northeast
was that Edgewood or Edgewood orsomething like that?

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Englewood.
It's something, it's in.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Northeast?
I don't know about no DC stuff.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
I'm a.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
GPS girl y'all, yeah, but it was a really cute venue.
It was like a warehouse typesetup and it had like the little
gaming systems where they do.
Was it Throw Social.
No, it wasn't Throw Social.
I don't think it Was it throwsocial.
No, it wasn't throw social.
I don't think it said.
City Trends on the outside oftheir building.
Okay, city Trends, I'm going tohave to check that out.
It was a cute setup and I'llsay there was about 50 people in

(28:34):
there.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
And it wasn't a stage , so that meant I had to work
the room.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Right.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
The area that we had.
But but like it was a momentwhere when I first came out, I
don't know where my energy camefrom.
I think I was just like excitedto be there because everybody
was like hi, you look so cute,you and your girls.
I was like thank you.
That kind of gave me the energyI needed.
So, like when I went to startthe performance, just to test
out the room, I'll hit them withthe vibe check.

(29:04):
I'm trying to see what y'all onso I test them out with my
first few bars of my song andthey just like okay.
And I was like okay.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
But that's good, though.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
You know how to work the crowd, you know how to work
the room I had to learn that afew times with a lot of my DC
events because I had didrecently.
It was like an in the basementtype of situation and it was a
room full of niggas and I'm like, oh, I can't come in here
talking about pretty bitch trapshit, I mean that's my songs and
stuff.

(29:32):
But I'm like I can't be like ifyou a pretty bitch and you like
trap shit talking to theseniggas.
So I was like now I got to comedifferent.
So I was like I see it's awhole bunch of niggas in the
room, but the pretty bitch isabout to take over and they was
like okay.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
I was like yeah, you gotta read the room, yeah, you
gotta read the room, like I hadone guy at that performance.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
I could tell the look in his face, the way he was
looking at me like this littleass girl, she ain't about to
talk about nothing, because itwas only me and another girl.
The other girl was doing R&B,she was singing.
She can really sing too, butfor me I felt like it was just
me versus all of them, becauseall these niggas rap.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
And.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
I'm the only female rapper in here, so I'm like okay
, so I could tell this nigga.
He looking at me like like girl, you ain't about to pop.
No shit for real.
So when.
I got to rapping and he seen mydancers.
I was like I started talking tohim.
Like every time I said a barlike that said nigga or bitch, I
would look at him and make likea face and I started seeing him

(30:36):
bob his head.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
He was like I said like yeah, nigga, like stop
playing.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Sometimes you got to make some people some believers,
because he really wasn't atfirst, yeah, and I kind of felt
like that when I realized itwasn't like a showcase where it
was going to be a room full ofpeople.
It was just a space for, like,I guess, artists to come perform
and kind of get their name outthere, right, and it wasn't even
on a platform, so it was justlike whoever came down, like a
in a dungeon type shit.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
So you got footage of that too yeah, we did.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
We haven't even put any of it out.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
That's what I'm saying like, as long as you're
getting footage yeah, becauseyou can always put it out later.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
You can always put it out later the journey and the
grind they gonna see it.
They gonna know?

Speaker 1 (31:16):
oh yeah, she definitely was out here on the
streets oh man, it was.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
And the fact that I had the niggas.
I was like light this bitch up,like, get your phones out.
They pulled their phones outand it was like, okay, all
niggas, all niggas.
Only females that came in thehood, in the hood, all niggas.
I was like yo, okay, it made mefeel like I did my big one.
I was like that made me look atit different.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Like it, the city.
It was the people around me,right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
So who your people that's around you now?
Right now I've kind of beenbuilding my circle yeah.
I cut back on a lot of peoplethat I used to hang with.
I don't have the same friends,no more Family ties cut Like.
Right now it's my mom, my son.
He's my everyday.
He's my everyday, she's myeveryday, my son's father.

(32:08):
I talk to my friend Sid, mybest friends Momo and Mikey.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
What's your manager name?
Huh, what's your manager name.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Coop.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Coop.
Yeah, his social media isAbstract Media, abstract Media,
abstract Media, abstract Media.
Shout out to Coop, shout himout.
He do like filming and stufffor the movies on Tubi, netflix
and Prime.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
When the celebrities and stuff come in town, that's
who they booking.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Abstract Media and his team.
Yeah, I had to like rebuild mycircle.
I'm still building.
Yeah, I had to like rebuild mycircle.
I'm still building.
Yeah, I'm still removing someas situations come, you got to.
Yeah, because you know it'slike the more I go into this
industry or whatever path I'mgoing through right now, I'm

(32:57):
noticing people like they'redropping, like they're coming
and they're going, or like theywas here and now they got to go.
So yeah they got to go.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
So, yeah, you got to sometimes, and I remember you
was doing some acting, weren'tyou?
Yeah, yeah, I did two movies.
What's Buddy name?

Speaker 2 (33:13):
with the From.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
The Wire From the Wire Trey, yeah, yeah, that's
who you like linked up to get inthe movies, right?
No, that wasn't him.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Uh-uh, somebody else.
Uh-uh, okay, I had an insideconnect.
Okay, okay.
But so the first movie, whichone?
The first movie I had toaudition for?
I think that was Nightmare.
No, no, no, that one was thedancing one when I had my

(33:44):
stripper robe.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
And you was trying to make a song for that.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
I did make a song.
Did you use it?
My song is on it.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
So you used it.
You knew the one we did, oranother one you knew man.
You didn't even tell me that.
It's in both of them movies Forreal.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
It's in both of them.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
movies on Tubi Gets him both of the movies on Tubi.
Matter of fact, that was theone when you came in the studio,
you knew and you just wentstraight in.
I was like man, that's how youfeel that you knew that.
Yeah, you knew, because,remember, you fought me, though,
because you was like this ain'tthe song, what was it?
You wanted to create somethingeven harder, and you were like

(34:21):
this ain't a strip song.
I was like, yes, it is.
You're like, no, it ain't.
I'm like, listen to what you'resaying and the beat.
And you was like this, ain't it?

Speaker 2 (34:28):
I'm like I didn't feel it.
I felt like I hate a selfishmotherfucker, but I don't never
forget shit.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
I ain't feel like it was a motherfuckers be twerking
to.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
They talking shit.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
They are At that time .

Speaker 2 (34:44):
I was talking shit.
But I wasn't talking shit likereally I would talk to a female
Right.
I was talking shit like aboutwhat's going on in my life, like
you know, I ain't think likebitches

Speaker 1 (34:55):
gonna be twerking ass .
So both movies got it, bothmovies got it Right, and then
you than you doing anymore.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
I would like to.
I like acting.
It's really cool that one thatI had to audition for.
I had to audition two differentroles for two different
characters.
The one that I ended up beingwas Bambi, but I auditioned for
another role where it had morelines in it.
But I think I read Bambi alittle bit better.

(35:24):
I think the other one really itkind of reflected my real self.
But the director of it was likein acting you're supposed to
choose a character that's theopposite of you so that you can
tap into a different side thatyou didn't know that you had.
Right, try it out.
And she was like now, read thescript.
So I was like, okay, let me seehow this person will talk.

(35:46):
So it was basically you knowsome strippers, you know they
always talk about money.
They talk about like you knowwhat they, how they getting
their dollars, regular hoe, shit, right.
So I'm like, okay, this ain'tme, but all right.
So I mean, you know, I love thestrip club culture so I could

(36:10):
kind of tap into the dancingeasily, because that's what my
era is, strip club culture, andjust to talk it wasn't really
hard for real.
It was just reading it andhaving to remember those lines
for those scenes.
But most of my scenes wasdances, so you ain't had to do
too much.
I ain't had to do too much,except for that locker room

(36:31):
scene where I had a littlecouple lines to say what's the
name of the movie.
You got to shout the movie out,unless you got some issue with
it.
No, I don't got no issue withit, but I'm trying to think of
it.
Okay, so you got a naughtyChristmas, and then God.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
You better get him on the uh oh my God, what is it?

Speaker 2 (36:55):
You might got to pull it up.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
What's the name?
Google the.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
What's that movie?
I was in with the dancer thatwas a stripper.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Shit.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Damn Damn niggas be forgetting I'm sorry, look, it's
gonna come to me later.
It's gonna come random too.
We gonna be talking.
I'm gonna be like I, it's goingto come to me later.
It's going to come random too.
We're going to be talking.
I'm going to be like I got it,but I need you too.
Okay, cool, but it was, it wasdope.
I definitely want to do moreLike I seen P-Valley was filming

(37:28):
for the summer and I I've beentrying to get in there.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah, that's what it was, because we was like Yo, we
got to make something likeBecause you put me on PV, I
ain't watch that, I ain't neverknow nothing about it.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
You stopped watching it when it got real.
No, I didn't.
Yes, you did.
I was watching that joint for aminute Until they started Doing
them in the show.
Nah, nah, nah nah.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
I just didn't watch that part.
Yeah, y'all used to blow me.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
It was like a real-life world debate.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Nah, but Buddy can really act, though I rock with
him.
Yes, it takes a lot.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
In the other show, who the one who plays Little
Murder?

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Yeah, Little Murder.
Yeah, we used to be in theretalking about different scenes.
Yeah, little Murder man, youknow what I mean.
He cool, they're acting crazy.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
I don't give a damn what his role is because so many
actors that has done them tightrows.
He killed that.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
He killed that joint and I think, like the stigma
that they always put on, it islike in order for you to be like
something great, you got to dosomething like feminine or you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
I've heard that they say but that's only for
African-Americans.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Yeah, yeah.
But I mean, what's his name?
Dressed up as Mrs Doubtfire?
What's my man's name?
He passed away.
But yeah, he dressed up as MrsDoubtfire.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Starting over blues.
Didn't I say that was going tohappen?

Speaker 1 (38:44):
It was going to come to you.
That was the name of the movie.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Yes, Starting over blues Starting over blues.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
I knew it was going to come later.
See y'all, I be having someissues.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Sometimes you got gotta let it, let it reset, pop
back in.
So we got the music.
How's life as a, as a mom?

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Life as a mom Is lifin' yeah, he's so.
King is Three and a half, soToddler stage.
He's learning Every day and hetalks Better than what you've
heard the first time, cause attwo, I can only imagine he was
saying full sentences.
He's learning every day and hetalks better than what you've
heard the first time because attwo he was saying full sentences
.
So now he talk like me and youand he question everything, he

(39:26):
want to know everything and helike a tape recorder he in that
stage he a sponge stage?
yes, and he definitely keep meon my toes because, like there
is never no like down time likeI could be sleeping, he's
choking up everything.
But he definitely keep me on mytoes because, like there is
never no like downtime Like Icould be sleeping, he like,
mommy, look at this, like yousee, this shark, this shark is a
megalodon, like you know.
Like he keep me up on my toesand he's like, will keep me

(39:49):
going every day.
So I love my baby.
My baby will be four yards alot.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
He got cancer.
Yeah, yeah, get an old cane Alittle.
Yeah, that's my dog.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
He's big now.
He said he a big boy.
He want a haircut.
Yeah, he want a big boy room.
He said he want me toredecorate his room for his
birthday.
So that's on the list.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Now how your mom, because I know how she was with
him, she how she was with him.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
She worse.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
I figured that Right now she done took that boy to
Chuck E Cheese.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
After he done had a crazy good old weekend with my
dad.
They went to the beach swimmingin the ocean yesterday and crab
hunting.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
You get some crab.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yes, and I'm like so she done took him to Chuck E
Cheese as soon as she got him.
Yeah, and she done bought him anew scooter and some toys.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Gotta outdo daddy, Gotta outdo granddaddy.
I said why is y'all competing?

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yeah, I'll do a grandpa.
Oh my God, yeah, but yeah, shegot him right now, spoiling him.
Ain't nothing changed, that'swhat's up?

Speaker 1 (40:46):
Well, I mean, it's Men's Mental Health Month.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Oh, my God, is it.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Yeah, how do you, you know, handle your your uh every
day?

Speaker 2 (40:57):
child.
I'm still trying to learn howto handle it.
Mental health is a really bigthing in my life right now.
Facts it is because, like overthe years, like I've grown
really bad anxiety, my stresslevel up to here, um so like I
was doing a lot of things to tryto like calm it down.

(41:19):
Calm it down.
Yeah, like I got into therapy,benson really helps.
Like just talking about it islike a stressor To the right
person.
To the right person.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Not to everybody.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
You can't get advice from everybody, because some
people ain't never experiencedthe shit that you're
experiencing, or some peopleain't never experienced the shit
that you experiencing, or somepeople might have experienced it
and they got through it.
So now they telling you howeasy it was or they numb to it
now they numb to it so it's likeget over it.
Like we were just talking aboutthat earlier.
I was like like my process isdifferent.
I take a little longer thanother people.

(41:50):
Like I hold shit in and thenwhen I finally let it out I'm
like I'll Right, like I've beenholding it for too long.
So like I never knew like howserious stress and anxiety and
depression can all go hand inhand.
And I learned that this yearLike I was having chest pains
and stuff and shortness ofbreath.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
And just to find out like those are panic attacks.
Those are episodes you'rehaving because your stress level
is so high.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
You know what was causing it.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
I had a lot going on in my life.
I still do Right now.
I'm going through some shitright now, but like I just been,
I was doing therapy.
I stopped that and then likeI'm going through a breakup, so
that's something else.
And then trying to manage beinga mom and then having to get up
to go to work every day, managebills.

(42:39):
I got a dream I'm trying tofollow.
So I got all these thoughts inone, but like the only thing
that's been managing that andkeeping me kind of calm is if I
keep busy.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Keep going.
Yeah, you just keep going.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
I bought myself a promise ring to represent me,
keep going, like to remind me,so like when I have bad days.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
I'm like I got to keep going, because people
always ask me like yo, tweez,how you keep going through this
shit.
If you really want it, you'llgo for it.
Yeah, because it's like mything is.
It's like I was in the Marines.
Everybody know I joinedstraight out of high school 03,.
I graduated 04, january.
I was in the Marines.

(43:18):
Everybody know I joinedstraight out of high school 03,.
I graduated 04, january.
I was gone.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
That's a lot.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
In a young age I did, and myhomies back then I was trying to
get the whole neighborhood togo, Because you know, I'm from
the east side of Detroit.
I was trying to get my homies togo Out the hood and do
something, bro, we can go, wecan get money, we can travel,
and everybody wasn't on thatsame page and I understand it, I
ain't get mad or nothing.
But when I left, they all gotmad at me, except for a few of

(43:42):
them, like you left us behind,yeah.
And then I'm like, bro, I cameback.
I'm like yo, you can still come, even though I joined, you can
still join.
So a few I was cool.
I'm like, hey, at least some ofy'all listening, and sure
enough, man, it was like that.
And then dealing with yourfamily you know what I'm saying,

(44:06):
family, you being away fromyour family, I'm missing all the
weddings, I'm missing all the-.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
You feeling alone.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Yeah, I'm missing all the but, but that's when the
family and the Marines came in.
You know what I mean and I waslike you know what, whatever
issues, I got back home I ain'ttripping on that.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
You made yourself numb to it.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
I got the homies here , you know what I mean, and we
used to get into shit in.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Cali all the time.
Yeah, I buried it.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
That's where trauma come from.
Yeah, and then on top of that Icame home and I started
learning like a lot of this shit.
Like my dad used to always tellme, worry about shit.
You can't control.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
My mom would tell me that If you can't control it,
don't worry about it.
And that's what I did.
Can't change it, don't worryabout it.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
I'm like, look, this is who you are.
Even my pops.
Like this is who you are.
I can't control it.
I ain't trying to control it,but I can't be around it.
Like you gotta fix that on yourown.
Like, as a man, you gotta comeand handle your candle.
You can't just think everythingis gonna go your way and then
not come back and like you knowwhat I mean.

(45:17):
Situations with the music likesome of the homies decide to go
their own way.
That's cool.
But you can't.
You can't be.
You gotta pick a side with me,dog.
Like you know what I'm sayingyou either rocking with me or
you ain't.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
I'd be like that too, and I'd be thinking it's
selfish for me to be like that.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Nah, it's not, because at the end of the day,
it's like you going through yourown you know what I'm saying
issues and like it ain't foreverybody else to understand,
right.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Because your process is different.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Yeah, because your process, even like with grief,
like you know what I mean.
Rest in peace to Benz.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Like Benz passed away I a couple weeks ago was he an
artist or like one of your closefriends?

Speaker 1 (45:57):
yeah, he was an artist like yeah, yeah, and like
you know what.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
I'm VA and he was like the truth, like he was like
Rick Ross for real, like he was.
He was that.
How did he pass?
I don't know.
To this day, like I just reachout to O, and you know what I
mean Every other day I try tolike just tap in with him,
because he, him, oh, and Benzwas on my episodes, like On your

(46:21):
shows, on the podcast, yeah, Ijust was watching some of them
yesterday.
I wonder if I looked that up,benz was on the fifth episode
and like the way I grieve isdifferent, you know what I mean.
Like a lot of times, like I begoes and like he hits you random
.
Yeah, and me and him had thatconversation because when my
cousin passed, it was the samething, like you know what I mean
he reached out to me, and whenhis brother passed, I did the

(46:42):
same.
So it was like when you dealingwith all of this stuff and then
you seeing, you know what Imean, yeah, your day.
Twos, the what day you met him?
Yeah you see your day ones andyour day twos like you know what
I'm saying, doing the samething, like all right, cool.
Like I ain't tripping off thatbecause, at the end of the day,
like I'm still moving, I'm goingto keep going.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
You know what I'm saying Keep going is definitely.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
I know like what'd I do?
Like you know what I mean, I'mlike I ain't even doing nothing.
So, but you know, I said, man,this my sis, like I'm not about
to.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
We definitely had that relationship.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
I'm like yo, I'm reaching out.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
We was like this and I was actually surprised that
you reached out and I'm likehonestly, now that it's been
years two years I'm like itreally wasn't tweezy, yeah, and
I'm like yo what's going on, Ithink.
I was just mad at what happened, yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
And then I was like yeah, you just threw everybody
in a bunch.
Yeah, I was like they all workwith them.
And I was like you know what Iain't about to the relationship
that I had with everybody.
You stuck to that.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
That, the relationship that.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
I had with everybody.
You stuck to that.
That's what I have.
I stuck to them.
And I was like I seen I'm likedamn Taz don't even follow me.
I said this is weird.
Like you know what I mean.
I said hold on.
I hit you in the DM like hey.
It wasn't even on like yo.
Why the fuck you stop followingme?
It was like I'm looking throughthe gram.
I just know.
Why are you just?

Speaker 2 (48:16):
now seeing this.
Why are you unfollowing?

Speaker 1 (48:17):
me, because you know what I mean, I be thinking,
because I be thinking about allthe artists that I you know what
I mean?
Oh, that you know that, I knowthat I got a relationship with,
and I always try to tap in justto check in on people Like what
you got going on?

Speaker 3 (48:27):
Yeah, just to check in.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
I'm like she don.
What did I do for you tounfollow me and you just like
bust out laughing or whatever?
Oh my God.
But yeah, I think.
Yeah, I definitely added you inthe mix.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
And I understand.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Because your relationship there was before
mine.
So automatically I'm like youknow, I know that the bros
before hoes type thing, Eventhough we like bros, yeah, I
just still felt like that.
So I was just like I was in myown head, yeah and um, I mean,
when you reached out I was likeokay, it's not Tweezy, it's not
everybody that is associated.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
Yeah, I was just trying to figure out what was
going on.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yeah, I didn't know and actually, um, I think what
made you, what brought me up inyour um attention, was when
Eddie got his plaque, yeah, andyou reposted it.

Speaker 3 (49:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
That's what made you hit me right after.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Yeah, because you was a part of that.
Like my whole thing is I don'tcare what's going on.
Yeah, If I'm not informed onwhat's going on, Then you got
nothing to do with it.
You ain't got nothing to dowith it.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
I ain't got nothing to do with it.
But I really wasn't looking atit like that, but I was like
shit, she was a part of thissong.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
Why not?
Like you know what I mean.
So I'm like of course, that'sone thing about me Like I'm
going to keep it, you out,Because, at the end of the day,
like you were the only personand that's actually what caught
my attention because I kept.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
I was at home doing something and my phone started
going off and I'm like hell likewho texted me.
There was no text.
So I checked Instagram and thenI'm saying I'm, I see, you know
, eddie, and everybody poppingbottles and they dancing to the
song, and I'm like, oh, whatthey say.
And they say you got a millionstreams and I'm like oh shit.

(50:22):
I'm like wait, that's the trackthat.
I'm on Right.
But then, like when I zoomedinto the plaque, I said wait a
minute, my name not on there.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Yeah, and that's why I was just like they took my
name off the plaque.
And to you said it, I didn'teven notice that.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
And then when I seen my name was taken off the plaque
I was I said that would makesense why I wasn't tagged.
When they was doing shout outsand tags to everybody who was a
part of that project and I'mlike, okay, but when you

(51:01):
reposted and you was like andshout out to Taz, cause you was
a big part of that, that waslike that made me say he ain't
had nothing to do with it?
yeah, cause I, I didn't evenknow, I didn't even know you
didn't know I didn't, Honestlyafter that conversation with him
, I didn't know how big it was.
I mean for me.
I took it as disrespect and Iwas like, sadly, we gotta part

(51:28):
ways.
I didn't want to, but at thesame time you didn't respect me
when you did that and then, tomake it worse, take me off a
plaque.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
I'm like okay, yeah, because I was like yo, we beef
beefing and it's been years,yeah, and I'm like I ain't
understand that, but like youknow what I'm saying, I was just
like nah.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
But when you tagged me that made because when I
first seen it I was like damnniggas ain't, I don't see a
mention to my page.
I started looking for it.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
I asked where you was at.
You know, what I'm saying.
You been to the crib, so I'mlike but you ain't know how deep
it was.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
That's what I'm saying.
I didn't know, you just knewniggas fell out.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
Yeah, yeah, and I was like okay, cool, but I'm still
going to put like you know whatI'm saying, like it don't matter
, like what song blew up my mind.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
And you know the crazy shit, even though they
took me off the plaque when youreposted it, then Eddie posted
it and was like, yeah, man,shout out to Tej, you really did
your thing yeah.
And I was just like you.
Even though I felt a way Forseeing that and then not being
mentioned, I still reposted it.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Just to show like I fuck with Eddie and I fuck with
the song, regardless whathappened Behind the scenes Right
After the fact, because it hadnothing to do With the track or
when we put it together when wewas doing it.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
We was all in the basement when we was all in the
basement Doing it.
I've been doing it.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Everything was good and gold then, so I'm not going
to take it out on Eddie.
I'm happy that he got a millionstreams, because that's a
really big goal for an artist toeven hit a million streams in
the industry, especially youjust coming up.
So he was really pushing.
I seen it like as soon as thetrack came out for a year he was
pushing that track really hard,like back to back.
He had content for it, he wasdoing a lot for it, so I was

(53:15):
like I'ma still support,regardless.
He took my name off of it.
Do I feel a way Hell?
Yeah, I feel a way, cause,nigga, I went and wrote them
bars.
I came and laid them tracksdown and helped you make that
track.
So don't forget who the fuck ison it.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
So, yeah, that's why.
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
And I respect you and .
I thank you for that Cause Idefinitely.
I looked at them.
I was like Damn, like shitReally.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
Yeah, cause I ain't know.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
I ain't know, you Would take me off, but you could
at least Still be like I don'tfuck with her Cause of this.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
She ain't trying, you know, but at least Respect the
name, like.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
She was a part of that.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Make another Taz.
It's only me who's on thattrack.
It don't matter who you workwith, it's not going to be
another Taz.
That was on Pop it.
You can get a remix, remix,remix, right, that's it.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
I was like shit.
You know what I mean when yousaid that.
I was like damn you know what Imean On there, took me the fuck
off the plaque.
Listen, go listen to my newtrack, real bitch.
So I was like alright, let me,let me post, let me you know
what I'm saying, cause I meanwhatever, whatever was going, I
put up.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, like he put up half, Iput up.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
But you ain't know that that was gonna happen yeah,
he was just participating inwhat needed to be done.
Because, yeah, because it was.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
it was, it was him.
You know what I'm saying andI'm like all right, cool, but um
.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
The intentions behind it.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Yeah, after you I'm like damn why the fuck?
And when you told me you waslike I just had to X everybody
out, I said hey.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
I ain't mad at you and you was like.
Well, that had nothing to dowith me.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Yeah, I'm like that ain't got nothing to do with me
and that's my thing.
Like I think a lot of peoplejust don't understand, like if
you really loyal and you rockingwith somebody, that's your
homie, like you gonna have, yougonna have issues.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
You gonna go through stuff.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
You gonna go through stuff with your people when it
gets to the point where it'slike nah, this ain't, this ain't
no issue, this is like aproblem.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
For me it was like a slap in the face.
Right Because like you said,like I've been to the house,
I've been in the basement.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
Right.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
Like I've been around family.
I started feeling like familyat one point because I was, they
was planning parties for me atday shit, so like just to have
people listen to my music, likeso to have that type of
situation happen.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
I was just like yeah, damn, and that's the thing too,
like I think people, people putin the wrong energy into
something and then they, they,they, they, they try to make it
like it's their life.

Speaker 3 (56:02):

Speaker 1 (56:04):
And I don't like because it's like you an artist,
I'm a producer, engineer,whatever.
But I think sometimes peopledon't understand that we're
different and we move different,like we was talking about
process, that we're different,mm-hmm, and we move different.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Like we was talking about process.
Everybody processes different.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
We process different.
Yeah, so when we process like aslap in the face or whatever,
we go and ask like, hey, am Itripping?
I do do that.
Am I tripping, or is it Just?

Speaker 2 (56:32):
to clarify like maybe I'm just in my head Because a
lot of times I am yeah, becausesometimes you got to.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
If I feel a way, yeah , and I always used to tell them
dots, don't overthink shit.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
And I learned that from my man,the producer.
He had a whole little room thatsaid dots, don't overthink shit
.
So I never would overthink theshit.
I'm a Virgo, for one.
I read rooms.
I do too, and I read Fuck shit,yeah.

(57:00):
So if I'm reading Fuck shit,then I'm like that's what it is.
A one plus one equals two baby,that's what it is, can't change
it.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
I'm good at math, the math is mathing.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
So I'm, you know what I mean.
I tell people all the time I'mgood, I never jumped out of a
plane, but I know how to popthat parachute, you know what I
mean I'm out.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
And you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Sometimes it happens, but like if I ain't spoke to
you in over, you know what I'msaying.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
If I ain't spoke to you in some years and I don't
know you.
You don't know me and I don'tknow you because you everybody's
complete different.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
Motherfuckers.
I told you it's four seasons,it's four quarters in a year.
So if you People have, I ain'theard from you in quarters and
you know what I mean.
Half.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Yes, damn, near a year, it's season.
I'm learning that this year too.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Like I just it's a Like whatyou want me to do, cause I'm
still.
I got two girls.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
You know yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Shit, I just Did you.
Yeah, the Little League.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
We're going to Connecticut.
Oh, congrats.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
Yeah, like Laina doing her thing.
Then 2D10U, you know what Imean they won yesterday.
I'm coaching.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Oh, for real.
Yeah, I'm supposed to sign upto be King's coach because he
about to be doing basketbally'all Listen if you want to play
baseball tell him to come wasI-9 Sports or something like
that.
Yeah, that's one, buteverything that they listed was
flag football, baseball, soccerand basketball.

Speaker 1 (58:21):
He said he wanted to do basketball, so I was like all
right, Get my boy ready.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
But they asked, if you do, you want to be a coach
or like an assistant coach?
And I was like I don't want tobe that into it, or do I want to
just be the side and be like go, baby, go.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
So I play baseball, but it's.
The similarities are there forsoftball, but they don't pitch
overhand, they pitch underhandand it's fast pitch.
So it ain't like a little pitchthat goes up, this shit coming
50, 60 miles per hour.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
He really have to be one, he really have to want to
do it, to learn.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
I think he can learn with basketball.
I'm trying to be the best dadever you know what I mean for my
kids and still support whateverthey want to do, so like when
stuff like that come.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
listen, man, I ain't worried about it, you got bigger
shit to worry about.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Yeah, I got way more shit to worry about.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
That's all I can do.
Like when you said Like, if youcan't change it, then Don't let
it bother you.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Yeah, that's why I don't be tripping, I just I see
it.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
And you gotta know what it is.
Yeah, it is what it is.
Yeah, you can't change it.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Yeah.
So and I ask my bro, I askKadeem, I say, bro, am I
tripping?
He like He'd tell me the I'vebeen knowing him since boot camp
.
I like people like that, youknow what I mean.
I need him for that, like if Igot some.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
If I got like, if I don't know who I can talk to
about certain things, I gotta goto him and be like am I
tripping?
Let me tell you what happened.
I don't want you to think of itbased off, you know, like who I
am to you, like my real opinionboom.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
I respect that you need that he's like y'all need
to have a talk, we have a talk,and that shit still ain't it.
I'm like, look bro sometimesit's not.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
There's no room for talking for certain people I
wouldn't say for everybody, butsometimes some stuff isn't meant
to be fixed and that's, andthat's how I look at it, that's
how people move, they showingyou who they really are and
their intentions originally.
So why would you try to go backto fix those?

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
and change it.
You can't change it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Right, leave it alone , leave it where it's at,
because I mean shit, there'sstill two numbers in a day that
hit the same time.
Sometimes the numbers ain't onthe same line.
You know, what I mean.
So I just keep moving, man.
You know what I mean, that'sall I can do moving man.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
You know what I mean, and it ain't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
no, for me it ain't no beef or nothing, it ain't.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
I'm not even.
I don't even do that, so it'slike Beef is me being at your
front door?

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Right and we all got each other locations.
So that's why I say it's not abeef.
You know, what I'm saying, it'sjust hey and respect it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
You grow apart and you have to accept that we
wasn't meant to be in eachother's lives for this amount of
time.
So moving forward, yeah, youknow.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
But Because, guess what?
At the end of every scenethere's what?

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
It's another, one, another start Another chapter,
another act, another sequel orwhatever.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
So I just keep it going, man, like for one man.
I'd be 39 this year.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
For real.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
I ain't got time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
I'm going to cry when I hit 30.
Yeah, oh, real bad.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Yeah, I'm going to be 39, man, I ain't got time, no,
you just at 39,.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Life should be easy.
Great it should.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
I ain't even going to lie to you, sunshine of flowers
, it's not going to be asperfect, but your world should
be perfect for you, it's been mybest year so far.
That's good.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
It's been my best year I've been trying to make it
mine but I keep running intoshit and I'm like I can't never
catch a break.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
But I'm still pushing , though you got to get off on
that.
Exit, yeah, or 295, you gottaget off on that exit.

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
I just like I'm, like shit never gives, but like what
I've been doing is I've been,even though my life haven't been
perfect, I've been findingthings to make it like do what.
I wanna do, like, do what Ilove, do what I feel, do what I
think, like trying to make itwork for me.
So I just, and it will, itdefinitely will.
It's some you know some bumpsin the road on the way.

(01:02:18):
Alright, cool.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
What uh you been working on music?
What song your new single?
Real Bitch when you dropped it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
I dropped it this past Friday.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
I know I'm just I want you to tell the people like
tell the people when youdropped it like.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
I know, I know when you dropped it, like I know when
you dropped it, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
I know when you dropped it, but I want you to
tell the people what you talkingabout.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
I dropped my new track Real Bitch this past
Friday.
It's on all platforms AppleMusic, youtube, spotify not on
SoundCloud.
Everybody always be asking it'son SoundCloud, no, but I mean,
it ain't nothing wrong withtaking it back, though to when
you first started, as long aspeople hear your music.
As long as you hear it.
You know my fan base have beenbuilding.

(01:03:03):
I performed it for the firsttime last night at that cosplay
event and they loved it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
I was like okay did you wear like a uniform or a
little costume?

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
yeah, so we is Sailor Moon, but we was different ones
, okay, and I'm not.
I'm honestly.
That was my second.
It was multiple ones wasn't ityeah so that's why we had
different colors.
I had on an orange skirt, oneof the dancers had on a blue,
another one had on a green, andwe all had different colored bow
ties on.

Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
It was really cute.
That's dope, that's dope.
Okay, it was fire.
So what else you got?
That's coming up.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Um, right now I'm working on a couple projects.
I'm just trying to like keepgoing, like you know, just book
with you to do your um podcast,and then now I'm just trying to
see in the studio Got sessionscoming up.
I've been writing, I got somehard shit, but I don't know
which one I want to go recordfirst.
I'm like how am I feeling?

(01:03:58):
And so every time I feel like Igot a new idea in my mind, I'm
writing something new.
So I don't be knowing likewhich one I want to go record,
because when I record it thatmean I'm working on tracks.
Right now I got a photo shootSchedule, you know.
So I just want to have Newcontent for real For the summer.

(01:04:20):
I want to drop, I really justwant to Drop all fire shit, and
my goal for the summer Is justto be booked and busy and be
traveling.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
And.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
I want to keep Opening for bigger and bigger
and bigger, bigger and biggerand bigger venues and bigger
artists.
You are good Until they're likewe're opening for Taz.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Yeah, until they open it for you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
I want, by the time it's 2025, it'd be my year, and
they'd be like we want to giveyou this million dollar deal.
Like I would sign a deal, butit would have to be the right
deal.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
But that's the goal, that's the plan, that's the goal
.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
You're going to get there.
You're working, I'm working.
I'm not playing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
You're working, I promised myself this year and my
song I was talking about Ipromised.
I think it was Set it Off.
I was like I got to make thisshit happen because my son, you
know, he want me to get a houseand he got goals for me and I
got goals for him and I'm likeI'm going to make this year that

(01:05:17):
year.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
I can see it happening.
I was told by somebody thatthey couldn't help me get to it
because it would take a longtime to get to it, get my
numbers up to get a fan base,and I'm like, nah, when they
told me that that motivated meto go a little harder, I was
like, okay, At least they werehonest, because they probably
didn't know.
Let me tell you anything ispossible on social media

(01:05:40):
overnight.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
And you not being funny, women control everything
it does.
You have a notch higher than aguy to get to where you're
trying to go, because when yougot the look, you got the bars,
you got the beats.
All you need is just to put thecontent out.
That's all you need.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
That's all you need and, like you know, it takes a
lot to put that content together, those ideas it does.
You got to put the right ideasout.
You can't just put anything outbecause people they will just
put out anything and be like I'man artist but like I'm trying
to do it right.
But use your sources, yeahthat's what I've been doing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
There's an old girl cosplay.
She got a following.
She do.
She got a crazy following mygirl posts.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
I was talking with her yesterday.
I was showing my dancers herpage on Instagram and they was
like yo, she always had.
Oh, I got a photo shoot thisweekend.
Oh, I got a convention I'mgoing to.
I got a booth over there, likeshe's always booked and busy.
So she definitely.
Consistency is a thing I know.

(01:06:44):
Content is going to be a reallybig thing for me this summer
because that's going to reallybuild my brand, because I'm the
brand yeah.
So I got a lot of things Like Iwas telling you, like I need a
new whiteboard.
I just be putting all my ideasout like what I want to do, and
then, once I tackle them, I justtake them down next and keep

(01:07:05):
adding.

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
Yep, you got to so whatever is to come.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
that's what's next?
I don't even know.
I'm just building my blueprintas I go for real.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
All right, Before we get out of here.
Top five Uh-uh.
Top five artists your top five.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
Huh.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
My top five, my number one Mm-hmm Big X to plug
he hard.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
Hey, shout out to Big X.
He hard His producer.
Man, they like, perfect, theyperfect.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
When I tell you I'm on that man's ass, I want a
feature, put me on it.
Let's go bar for bar.
That's how I'm feeling.
When I was in Houston, we weresupposed to go to this club, but
it was a whole bunch ofbullshit.
Just to get in with the peoplewe was with.
I forgot that artist we waswith.
We was about to get in with him, but then they started charging

(01:07:54):
us some fees.
We were like what the fuck?
So?
But come find out, big X was inthere right next to their
section, and I done went home.
I was tired too.
I'm like Houston had me out tolike oh yeah, Just be prepared.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
Was it Houston or was it Austin?

Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
Austin.
Was it Houston or was it Austin?

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Austin oh, you went to South by Southwest.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
Yes, that's where I performed at for Big Cuzz's
first event.
Yeah, yes yes, sorry, so it wasin Austin for South by.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
Southwest, right down the street.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
Yeah, and Big Cuzz was in that club in that section
and I was like that could havebeen my fucking moment.
And then the next day he wentto was that Rolling Loud to
perform.
I'm like he ain't coming back,Like I miss him, but I'm like
the next fucking time.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
But you got big cuz, I got big cuz right.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
So I'm like let me know If it's an event like, keep
me up to date.
I want to know, like, when yougot open slots, when can I hop
in there?
Like I need to be in that roomso because Always and Forever
Love Doll Rest in Peace.
I love Moneybag.
I like listening to Meg becauseshe hard, and number five who

(01:09:03):
am I going to give it to?
Who have I been listening toNumber five?
He's not hip hop really.
He's like I wouldn't even sayhe like R&B either.
Major Nine.

Speaker 1 (01:09:19):
Major Nine yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
He sing, he sing rap Top five.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
I ain't say rap, I ain't say hip hop, I ain't say
R&B, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Always Major Nine.
Okay, don't matter what moodI'm in, so Big H.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Dolph Moneybag, meg Major Nine, major Nine, major
Nine.
I was waiting.
I wanted to know If he wasgonna put a female in there or
if he was gonna do All fivefemales.
No, but that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
I like the girls that's out right now, but my
favorite Is gonna be Meg.
Yeah, she, meg Bars Is fireyeah.
I don't give a fuck what.
Nobody say.
All that other shit she gotgoing on Her bars are fire.
Talent is there.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
And her producer.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Yes, juke.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Juke on the beat, little Juke on the beat.
Yeah, yeah, he be going hard,that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
He be making the right stuff for her.
And they be working with JuicyJ yeah.
That's what I be wanting tosend Like, send me shit like
that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
I want a Juicy J type beat, because I think that's
what it be too, man, becausewhen you get in there and the
producer community and likeeverybody showing love, that's
why I always love going to likethe producer events, because
it's always.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
I haven't been to one of those yet.
You got to go.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
That's a good network .
Shout out to Letter L and Tasia.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
You gotta send it to me.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Man when I went to OutKast studio me and Esquire
went.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
Man stank on it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
Because he was at the studio with us.
Esquire Es with the glasses boyhead.
He's the other producer.
Yeah, you know him, but he likehe just popped in and he like
every now and then, yeah, causehe was, he still in the Navy, so
he'd be in, he'd be out, likeright now he out on a ship,
shout out to my bro but um, yeah, but uh, man that writing camp

(01:11:04):
there fire.
I remember we used to talk aboutwriting camp yeah, cause that's
where you really go buildrelationships with producers,
artists, relationships withproducers, artists, whoever,
because that's where they're atand like being in Stankonia and
see their process.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Yeah, you see their process.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
They see your process .
Then they got footage of whatyou're doing and you're all
building to get on some syncplacements.
Remember, I was always big onsyncs Like I'd do syncs any day
you were Because that's what'sgoing to get you on TV.
That's what I want to do.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
People start asking, even if I can't get a scene like
a role on it.
I want my music on it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Yeah, remember like with the Insecure, like all of
that stuff they had going on.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
I love that.
Issa Rae's sound her playlistfor them episodes.
That was fire.
Yeah, they had regular peoplemusic on there.
That's what.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
I love.
Once you get on there, youlocked in people start rocking
with your music.
That's how you can build yourfan base that way too.
Versus you know outside of theshows.
But yeah, getting into thoseareas.
Have you been to the Midwest?
You gotta go.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
You been up top, you been up to New York, philly, but
doing music though we just wasnumber four Talking about New
York, so maybe it's meant for meto go back to New York now.
Yeah you got to get there, butI haven't done anything
musically in New York.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
Yeah, get to every region, because even I'm going
to tell you right now, the WestCoast is going to rock with you
too.
Yeah, yeah, especially LA, sanDiego.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Didn't I just list this?
Yesterday I said New York LAMiami, because Miami got strip
clubs yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Miami.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
I really want to tap into.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
Miami, but that's what I'm saying.
So get to those other regions.
So not only do you have Texas,because Texas is its own, like a
Texas artist can blow up inTexas and in Texas alone,
because that's how many peoplewas in there.
Same thing with Cali.
That's why Cali really rockingwith K-Dawg.
Oh yeah, she was there too Well, yeah her, but I'm talking

(01:12:56):
about Kylie the state.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
Oh, Kylie, Okay, okay , okay yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
California because, like, you can be in California
and blow up in California andthat's why California artists
really rock, I feel like that'sthe hardest.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
New York.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
I feel like Cali is where they go and they Like lost
dreams, uh uh.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
Nah, think about it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
Or like you might, if you make it to Cali.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
Then you made it.
Think about it, you just had wejust had One of the biggest
Beefs or Battles With the wholeindustry.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
Oh, you talking about .

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
The.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Drake and Kendrick.
Oh yeah, and what Kendrickdoing?
He brung all 40 gangs with thatmotherfucker.
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
Yeah, like he bringing the Bloods, the Crips,
the Hoovers, all of themtogether Like, and they don't
even rock, because you know, Iused to be stationed over there.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
So I know like.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
I know like it's like certain hats you couldn't wear,
like unless you knew somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
I feel like to of respect, though in Cali to
actually be considering makingit in Cali.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
But that's what I'm saying.
You see how, like, just thatalone was big.
Yeah, because Cali, that's LA,just one section.
You know what I'm saying?
Like you got San Diego, you gotthe Bay Oakland, san Francisco.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Sacramento.
He did, I watched it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
He lists saying like so la, la, la is huge, but for
him to get all of them to cometogether.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
That says a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
Says a lot you know, I'm saying that's what he was
trying to do.
See what I'm saying.
And now, like that's what Isaid, you get over there and you
just build relationships.
You build relationshipseverywhere you go.
Granted, everybody might notrock with your music, but I want
to kind of get into Memphis.
Yeah, that's what I'm sayingGet to Memphis, get to Memphis,

(01:14:39):
get to.
They'll definitely love you inMemphis.
I feel like it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
I don't know what it is, but Memphis got me feeling
like or New Orleans.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Because, think about it, I always tell people,
memphis, memphis, that 3-6 Mafiastyle music is just it's going
to continue.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
I love that type of sound.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
You know what I'm saying, and then the fact that
they like mixing it with Detroitstyle beats.
That's why Bagg sold like he'sgoing crazy.
But if you notice like thinkabout all the cliques of music
people that's together and thinkabout who they got.
They got somebody from Memphis,they got somebody from Detroit,
they got somebody from Detroit,Somebody from Atlanta, and then

(01:15:17):
they rock with Miami, they rockwith people from Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
You might got you one or two from Chicago.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
Yeah, and you got.
You got Dirk in them.
So it's like, whoever you workwith, like when you build those
relationships and just keepgoing, like tell you it's going
to pop, it's definitely going topop.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
I'm in my process right now.
I'm just keeping going.
I'm not slowing down theemotion I got myself into right
now.
I'm like I don't see myselfslowing down.
It's going to the right paththat I wanted it to go.
It's just I don't know whenit's going to happen, so I can't
.
I got to think about like whenit's happening but not when it's
going to happen, type thing,like if that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
So All right, all right, so before we get out of
here, I always do gym class.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
What's gym class?

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
Gym class is G-E-M, so you got to drop a gym for the
female artists out there, themale artists out there,
something that you keep in yourtoolbox that you can give to
them to put in their toolbox.
Any gym you think of you candrop for them.

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
Don't ever let anybody tell you what you're not
capable of and whatever youthink you can do, stick to it.
Don't change the plan.
Stick to the plan.
That's the only way to make itto where you're trying to go if
you stick to what you envisioned.
Like it's okay to have otherpeople's input, you know.
But like, if this is yourvision, your baby, you got to

(01:16:44):
take care of this, and such Like, go stick to get in your head
is you versus you?

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
And that's how it's always going to be.
Yeah, once you make it, youversus them.
Yeah, that's when you go onthat little crash course.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
You can't let everybody can't let it.
For you, you can't let it forthem Right.
Do you, because when you go inthat box Then you can't get out
because you in they shit.
Don't limit yourself.
That's another one.
Yeah, don't limit yourself.
Stick to the plan, if you feellike you want to do some big
shit.
Do some big shit.
There's nothing too big Facts,so yeah All right sis.

(01:17:23):
Taz, it's your girl, taz yeah.
Follow me on social media.
Y'all you love Taz.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
Y-O-U-L-O-V-E-T-A-Z and Tweeze.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
You know you know me, big Brother, tweeze you know
what it is.
Tweeze that shoe we got a linktoo after here we got a link too
.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
Yeah, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
I don't drink like that, but we can.
We can still go out, yeah, yeahyeah, for sure, like that we
gone.

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