February 25, 2025 • 55 mins
Become a Relative & send some love
Explore the captivating journey of JDT Music, a talented producer who balances military commitments and a passion for music in our latest episode. This deep dive into his life reveals how influences from family ignited his love for music, paving the way for a fulfilling career. Listen as JDT shares his transition—from creating beats as a hobby to understanding the nuances of turning music production into a business, outlining critical steps towards building a brand.
As he navigates the structure and discipline dictated by his military service, JDT discusses the intersection of creativity and duty, offering a unique perspective on balancing life’s demands. His experiences while deployed underscore the personal growth that comes with exposure to diverse cultures, serving as a reminder of the world’s vastness well beyond our immediate context.
Listeners can gain invaluable insights regarding branding, networking, and the significance of legal protections in the music industry. JDT emphasizes the necessity of building relationships and receiving guidance from those who understand the business—a crucial aspect often overlooked by creative individuals entering the market.
Finally, JDT invites listeners to reflect on their own passions, inspiring them to take actionable steps towards pursuing their dreams. Whether through music, military service, or another path, his emphasis on purposeful living, dedication, and growth is a call to action for anyone striving to align their life with their passions. Don't forget to follow JDT Music and engage with his journey!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
yeah, yes, sir, what's up everybody?
This is relationships work morethan money.
Podcast.
I'm tweezy, who do?
I got to the right of me.
Hey, we got jdt music man.
We got jdt, uh, producer,songwriter, composer.
What's going on, brother?
Man, you look everything.
(00:22):
Man, you forgot something else,though.
Man, you got the most importantpart.
Oh, yeah, yeah, active duty,you know, yeah, duty, for sure,
yes, sir, um, what?
What?
I mean?
Even me, bro, like we met whattwo, three years ago?
It's been a minute right at thewriting camp.
(00:42):
Yeah, yeah, so, um, let's giveus a rundown, man, where you
from, where you started, how didyou start music?
Just give us a rundown oneverything, for sure, for sure.
I'll definitely say the firstsuch point for music for me
definitely came from familySeeing my sister she rapped
(01:04):
Seeing my aunts, and like theysing, and like my uncles too,
they were into music and stufflike that.
So that was something that Ialways wanted to do.
I didn't necessarily want to, Ididn't necessarily want to rap,
but I knew I wanted to dosomething that had to do with
production.
I wanted to make a beat, or Iwanted to.
You know, I'm saying like me,because I it was the beat that
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you listen to, that you're like,oh, this is this song.
You feel what I'm saying and Ialways wanted to kind of have
that connection with it.
So I say, by the time I reached, let's say, 16, 17, so 2017, my
homie, who was also a producer,b-man Madman.
He moved to the neighborhoodand it was like during the
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summertime around them we wouldalways hoop and stuff like that
and every now and again we goback to the crib and we just
chill and just play a game.
And I've seen fo studio.
Yeah, it was like I think backthen fo studio 12 was the main
software, yeah, and uh, he waslike aren't?
I was like yo, what is thatLike?
How do you?
I see all these like buttonsand like lights and shit like
(02:08):
that.
And I see the software and I'mlike how do you like?
What are you doing?
And that's when he told me hewas like yo, hey, I'm making,
I'm making music, I'm makingbeats.
I was like making beats, likeyou're making the beat yourself,
it ain't?
No, you don't need like$500,000 worth of equipment.
You know what I'm saying?
So then I was like all right,dang, like it's possible.
(02:31):
And I used to go and just makethese because he had the demo
version at the time.
We wasn't paying for shit, wewasn't paying for nothing, bro,
we had the demo version at thetime, yeah, bro.
And then, yeah, yeah, bro, anduh, and then, yeah, like not too
long after that, I was like youknow what?
I could just download the demoversion.
I'm on my family laptop over,uh, over at the house.
(02:51):
So then I was like, all right,cool, so that's what I did.
And then, ever since then, man,ever since then, I just started
making music.
Yeah, what, uh, where you from?
Yeah, so I'm from lawrenceville, georgia, uh, up in guinette
county, not too far, that'sabout 15, 20 minutes from, uh,
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heart of downtown.
So, yeah, I'll say like, everynow and again I pull up to
midtown, like downtown, but eversince I like left and moved out
and stuff like that and reallyseen the music scene, that's
when, like, I'm always down here.
So how long so you was makingbeats before you joined the
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military?
Yeah, yeah, bro, started makingbeats 2017, but I didn't know I
could turn it into a businessuntil 2022.
That's when I started poppingout's, when I started like, okay
, like an llc, like what's that?
What's it?
Um, what's copyright?
(03:55):
What's trademarks?
What are all these different?
You know, I'm sayingintellectual property.
What is all these things that Icould use to leverage to
actually create a business thatI could do on the outside too?
Okay, and when you, when you uhgot into the Marines, um, you
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got in the ring.
What year?
So I got?
I got in 2019, august 2019.
That's when, uh, that was myfirst day at boot camp.
You know, you know about it,yeah, man, you know, that's
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where the, that's where the,that's where everything starts.
Man, like, it's going to makeor break you.
Everything starts, bro, that'swhere everything starts.
Break you down, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, man, it's going to makeor break you.
Everything starts, bro,everything starts.
Break you down, yeah, bro,break you down, build you back
up, help you get confident andstuff and stuff like that.
That's the beginning point,right there.
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So, what encouraged you to jointhe military?
For sure, mainly the structure.
What encouraged?
What encouraged you to join themilitary?
For sure, so, uh, mainly thestructure.
Um, and having somethingafterwards, like after college,
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or not after college, but afterhigh school, um, I wanted to go
to college.
I just didn't know how to goabout, like, paying for it and
everything like that.
So I just didn't want to.
I didn't want to like forcecollege at the time.
So I just was like I'll just,I'll just do the military thing
and what you doing?
That man, like you, said youdidn't even.
So you, you had you got yourfeet wet first in the military
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and then you said, boom, let metry to.
Let me try to turn this, thismusic thing, into a business.
Who, who encouraged you to dothat?
Like, was it just you just outthe blue, or was it like
somebody that said like, oh, youknow, you can make money off
this?
I think it was out the, not outthe blue.
I won't say it was out the blue, but I would say like, because
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I've always been kind ofconnected to music.
So even before because, like Isaid, I started producing in
2017, I joined in 2019, so bythat time I already knew about
the south sides metro, I alreadyknew about, like, all the big
producers and stuff like that.
So following them kind ofconnected me to like a.
It's like another side of themusic business, because you know
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they're advanced producers butthey're also like businessmen.
You feel I'm saying so likeonce I started seeing clips of
like sides of the music business.
I'm like, oh, okay, so you canmake money off this.
And it didn't hit until likeafter I joined.
But I would say that they weredefinitely the first like touch
point in terms of like, okay, Ican actually be successful like
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doing music.
Yeah, well, um, like, give me anormal day, man, because you
know, like in our world, likeyou know, you got a certain time
you gotta get up.
You got a certain time yougotta be at work and work and,
um, what was, what was it likefor you was, was you one of the
ones that was getting it in likeat work, getting it in during
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child, like what you was doing?
So it depends on the day.
Ideally, I like to wake upearly.
So let's say, if we don't have,let's say say, if we do have PT
, right, because you know whatI'm saying PT in the morning you
wake up around 5, 6.
You do that till about like7.30, around there, and then you
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change over.
He knows what I'm talking about.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, change over,change over.
Yeah, you know, change over.
Right, you shower everythinglike that and then, like, you
get dressed like you in yourclothes and stuff like that, and
then you go to a.
I don't go get breakfast first,then I go to work.
Yeah, from there, from about 8to 11.
(07:57):
I don't know if it changed oranything like that, but that's
around the time for that morning.
You don't get what you need toget done between 8 and 11.
You shot, you shot, you shot.
So exactly, so, around 11 timeframe, that's when I'm going
back, I'm going back to my roomand then I'm either in the gym
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or I'm working on on a beat.
Okay, it just depends on the day.
Like, ideally, that 11 to 13time frame is when I can like
just do me.
I don't got to worry about nowork obligations.
But you know, sometimes workjust it's all over the place and
you don't have that.
You don't have that freedom.
So it's wherever you can, it'slike a rhythm, wherever you can
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find the space, wherever you canfind the space, wherever you
can find the space to do that,what you score on the ASVAB, on
the ASVAB, well, I guess I ain'teven gonna lie, but I was in
the 50s.
I know you had to be in the 50s, cause that's why I asked,
cause your MOS, your job.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you had toscore over 50 to get that.
(09:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
And let's talk about that.
That mos man, a lot of peopledon't know what mos mean.
Military occupational specialtyspecialty, which is job, your
job, what's your job?
Um, what's your job job field?
So mos 6842?
Right, so that's meteorologyand oceanography analyst
(09:23):
forecaster.
That's my military occupationalspecialty.
So, like I'm more so trackingoperational impacts to the
mission, um, yeah, like weatherin the environment and stuff
like that.
But then I also have like aresponsibility to like kind of
tailor that to the mission set.
So so if we're doing somethinglike nothing, even crazy, let's
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say we're doing aid,humanitarian aid or something
like that, and I know that it'sfor a large amount of people I
can't just be like, oh, it'sgoing to be this cold, oh, it's
going to be this hot, no, no, no, I have to be like, okay, we're
expecting to do xyz at thistime, based on the environment.
This is the best.
You know, I'm saying like, yeah, asset or means of going about
(10:13):
it.
You know I'm saying like thatand that's just a suggestion
like I'm not gonna make.
No, you know, I'm saying like,tell people what to do, but at
the same time, yeah, it's my jobto make sure that everyone's
tracking like, okay, this iswhat we got, this is what's
coming in and this is alsowhat's like to expect.
Based on all that, we can movelike this and it'll give us the
(10:34):
best success.
So that's kind of like my main.
You might be the first, thefirst person that I met in the
military that got that MOS bro.
I ain't even gonna cap what Iheard.
Yeah, man, because like I metreporters that community's small
bro, yeah, but I mean, like Imet reporters.
I had one of the guys in myplatoon in boot camp was a
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reporter, like he was a combatcamera, but he ended up being
crazy part bro.
He ended up being a dude on AFN.
So like yeah, so like I'm inIraq one time and I'm looking at
the AFN and I'm like I thinkhis name was Gerardo Gerardo,
and I'm like yo, is that Gerardo?
You know what I mean and I'mlooking and I'm like yo, that is
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him.
I'm like bruh, like a reporter,news reporter on AFN Network.
So I'm like that shit crazybruh Buddy on Armed Forces
Network, and I was like yo,that's dope, but you are
definitely the first person thathas the weather match.
So you checking water too.
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It's not just, yeah, checkocean Ocean.
So you checking you checkingwater too.
It's not just, yeah, checkocean Ocean.
Yeah, you checking the ocean.
So the ocean is Like what isthat?
Like Like tap, in more thanthat, bro, because I'm like
intrigued bro.
I love like the science part ofeverything, like so, yeah, just
tell me what that entails.
Yeah, for sure, and it's crazy.
You mentioned that like thescience behind it.
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Because I didn't join themilitary to do no science.
Like I ain't gonna lie bro,like I did not join the military
because I didn't expect it.
So I think it was definitelyGod trying to put me in a
position, because I genuinelydid get someone to ask that I
got the minimum required scoreto get a lot of jobs, of jobs.
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So, like you feel I'm saying um, and then I think it's also
when you talk about like howinvolved it is, I could have
easily just been like man, Iain't trying to learn all this
like science stuff.
Because when you talk about theocean and stuff like that, yeah,
as marine, we're shitting theshore.
You feel what I'm saying?
Like we're on the boat beach.
You know I'm saying Like we'reon a boat Beach, you know what
I'm saying, we storming thebeach or whatever the case,
right, that's our whole likeamphibious, like that's our
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whole like culture, and sothat's what they're whenever
they're asking me for likedifferent products and stuff
like that.
I got to take that intoconsideration.
So I'm going to throw a word atyou.
I'm going to throw a word atyou, bear with me, right?
So we got bathymetry, bathymetry, bathymetry, bathym, or
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bathymetry, bathym, bathymetry,bathym, bathymetry, bathymetry.
Yeah, exactly, so it'sliterally like the topography of
not the ocean, but like theland underneath the ocean, if
that makes sense, right, youfeel I'm saying, if you, if you
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have, so you look at, you, lookat places like cali.
Right, you know how they gotbig waves.
You know I'm because, in a longstory short, the symmetry is
much steeper.
You know what I'm saying.
The land underneath the wateris much steeper than on
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somewhere like Jacksonville,north Carolina.
It's very shallow, flat land,flat.
You know what I'm saying.
They don't get no waves overthere in Kent.
You know what I'm saying.
You get some baby waves, bro.
You go crazy over two-footer,you really go crazy over
two-footer, bro.
But in Cali or somewhere likeHawaii, where it is mountainous,
they do have like all that theygot.
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They're known for waves Likeunderneath the water.
Underneath the water yeah, sohis mom is underneath the water
in like Cali and Hawaii.
Well, you got to think, like,just over time, a lot of the
landmarks that we got right nowthey didn't look like that.
You see what I'm saying.
And so, like over time and aslike I guess, I guess the water
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just rose and stuff like thatcovering the islands or whatever
it is that they got going on.
So there's a lot more landmassunderneath from what we just see
.
From all that we see there's alot more landmass underneath
that and it's a lot aboutupwelling and all that stuff.
But I ain't going to lie, it'sa lot.
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It's a lot, bro, it's a lot.
So who would you be giving thisinformation to?
Would it be like a specialoperations unit or amphibious
assault vehicles?
That was my first unit, amtrak3rd AAB.
Oh yeah, I know about Amtrak3rd AAB and Battalion dog over
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there.
We was right off the water inCali.
That was my first introductionto California, bro.
Flying in to San Diego and,boom, going right to Cali.
Third tracks man.
Who do you get this informationto?
It really depends on what theclient is, because there's not
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one set person that I giveinformation to Every at least
for from what I know, every MOShas a DCI, so for my MOS it
falls under the DCI information.
Now, when I joined it wasoperations OK.
So the reason why that'simportant is because that
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depends on which shop I'mworking in.
I used to work really close tothe three and most of the bics
that I've been in like for thepast I would say year, even when
I was on deployment this pastyear.
Um, I was working with the two,so I was working with
intelligence.
Yeah, that's because they'vebeen making a lot of changes.
So what that ends up exposingus to is now we really talk to,
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we're talking to the bigwigs,we're talking to the mission
commander, we're talking to thecolonel, we're talking to the
stars.
You feel what I'm saying?
We're talking to them becausethey got the final say.
So our whole thing is aidingdecision-making process, making
sure, like mission execution islike or operational planning is
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good.
But yeah, it's really like thebig weeks that we be briefing
and stuff like that.
Talk to, yeah, so far, so likeyou.
Just, you just got off adeployment.
What deployment was you on?
Yeah, so let's see March March.
I's see March March.
I think it was 4th, I'm notsure.
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Last year, it was last year,right?
Yeah, last year I was with the24th Mule.
We went out to theMediterranean, the Mediterranean
Sea.
We just did what we had to do.
We was just, we was out.
But, yeah, like, so like,because I want people to
understand, like you know,marines, we air, land and sea,
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and we with the Navy, you waswith the Navy, right, I was with
the Navy, you was with the Navyand y'all, you know, y'all was
out on the Mediterranean andwhat stops did you did?
Or Mediterranean, what stopsdid you did y'all stop at?
Oh, we stopped in Denmark.
Okay, see, that's why I'm madman.
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I'm listening.
Go ahead, hold on.
I'll get back to Denmark,because Denmark wasn't even a
full stop, but I did touch land,so I'm counting.
If you touch land, that counts,that counts.
Denmark, spain, greece, turkey,which Turkey was crazy?
Cyprus, yeah, where else?
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I think that was it.
I think that was it for me.
But depending on who you wereattached to, you could have gone
to, like, other places inGreece, or you could have gone
to different places around theworld.
So it depends, because special,certain missions, they require
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you to do certain like differentstuff, so certain people got to
go, like like other countriesand stuff like that.
I'm not.
I'm not sure about what youwould have.
Magta, yeah, you, you you have.
Yeah, okay, yeah, you you have.
Um, it was, it was a greatlearning experience.
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I'll forever say that how longwas you gone?
For what?
Seven months an experience.
I'll forever say that how longwere you there?
Was you gone for what?
Seven months or a year?
How long you was gone on theseat?
I was gone about seven.
I remember you hitting me up.
Oh, yeah, yeah, I reached out.
So like December, right, yeah,about December, november,
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december, yeah, december, I cameback.
December I came back.
Yeah, december I came back.
And, man, I was so glad to behome, bro, like I don't know how
to explain it I was just soglad to see my fam, see my
friends and just like be back inone location.
Yeah, but I mean, you know,like the thing with us, man like
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you.
So one of my benefit tags wastraveling adventure, bro,
remember, I told you I was arecruiter.
So like now I look back at itbecause they used to be like yo,
y'all probably just here, justfor this, y'all probably just
here for that.
And I was like man, like I'm in, like I want an education,
opportunities.
You know what I'm saying.
I wanted to travel, anadventure.
But I also wanted pride ofbelonging.
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You know what I'm saying.
I've always been a part of ateam.
So once I got Cali man, rememberhow MOS they tell you hey, east
Coast, west Coast, overseas,put it in whatever order, and
you're probably going to go.
That's probably where you'regoing to get stationed at your
first duty station.
So I'm like overseas, westcoast, east coast.
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So at the time they didn't sendnobody from Motor T over there,
so I had to get west coast.
It was crazy because the team,the class before mine and Fort
Leonard Wood, they went overseas, east coast, west coast.
They went to all three.
Okay, my class didn't get it,it was just East Coast, west
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Coast.
You know what I'm saying.
I made sure I didn't want to goto Lejeune.
It's just something like hey, Ijust left from there, bro, I
just left from there bro.
I just don't like it, man.
I think because of MCT I'm likeew, like this is like nah, I'm
straight there.
Ain't nothing exciting overhere, yeah.
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So I got West Coast, got Cali.
That's my only regret, bro, isnot going on the mute.
That's why I said I'm going toget back to it, because when I
got back from Iraq the secondtime, I had orders to go
overseas to O oki, and that wasmy thing.
I'm like I want to touch everypart of the marine corps, um, as
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a, as a, you know, enlistedmotor t sergeant, you know I'm
saying, or whatever rank I wasgonna be.
And, um, sometimes, man, Iregret it because it's like if I
would have went over there Iwould have got the experience
overseas, um, but I ended upcoming to Quantico.
So I don't I don't really fullyregret it, because a lot of
people that I still got in mylife, that's my brothers, came
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from Quantico.
You know what I'm saying.
So, um, but I also got marriedtoo, in Quantico, because if I
left to Okie I wouldn't havebeen able to marry my kid's mom
you know what I'm saying Becausethey would have sent me over
there as unaccompanied because Iwasn't married when I got my
orders.
You know what I'm saying.
So that's why I said you knowwhat, cool, but the Mew man.
I used to see all my homies theRed Patchers, everybody the Red
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Patchers.
I used to see all of them andI'm like dog where y'all going
and they're like man, I don'tknow.
We going, you know we about togo down to San Diego and train,
or the ship would come up to usand pedal them and all the
tracks today are going to driveout to the ship and I was dope
just watching them like, driveout.
Or the L-Cats, the hovercraftswould take all our vehicles.
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Yeah, we'll take all ourvehicles and drive them out to
the ship.
And the ship looked so closebut it was so far away and I was
watching and I'm like man, Iwant to go on the mute because I
know they get to stop atdifferent ports and you know,
have some liberty, you know, andhave a good time.
Yeah, you got to have some Libo,but you need Libo because if
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you don't have Libo, you on thatshit.
For how long?
You could be on that shit for ahundred more, a hundred or more
, a hundred or more days, bro,just ocean.
Now, when you just in the water, right, right, did you have
your laptop there so you canmake beats still?
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
So you had a plus there, butI'm not always able to.
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You know what I'm saying.
It's like I said rhythm, becauseyou know, especially once you
get to an SEO rank, it'sdifferent.
If you're new to the fleet andyou go to a mute.
You feel what I'm saying, notsaying that you won't have to
step up regardless.
Everyone has to step upregardless.
Everyone has to step upregardless of what your rank is
when you deploy out there.
But as a sergeant, especiallylike you, it's not just you, you
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feel what I'm saying, it's youand whoever else is around you
and whoever else is in yoursection, in your shop.
You also have a responsibility.
Like you know what I'm saying,make sure that stuff's going
good so that way the staff canknow ain't too much, ain't doing
too much.
You know what I'm saying.
You're supposed to be thebridge, you're supposed to be
the guy, um, and so I mean,honestly, I just wanted to help
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the team, anything I could do tohelp the team, and then, once
everything was good with likewith them, anything that I
wanted to do, then it's like ohyeah, I'm on it, because that's
when I go to the birthing,that's when I go to the library.
I wouldn't go to the mess hallbecause there's too many people
down there, but just gosomewhere and then I'm cooking.
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I made the Mind that Seed thelittle beat tape.
I think I dropped it.
I dropped it on Instagram andstuff like that.
It's on all platforms and stufftoo, but it was just something
that I just kept creatingthroughout the entire seven
months, kept creating, keptmaking beats, kept making music
and stuff like that.
Yeah, man, it can getoverwhelming sometimes, though.
(24:58):
Here's the thing Amon at C, youdropped that while you was at C.
Yeah, so you had Wi-Fi, youhooked up to whatever platform,
what you DistroKid, whatever.
You know what I'm saying.
No, no, no, I dropped it afterI finished it.
Oh, you finished it, okay.
Okay, I was about to say that'shard.
You know what I'm saying.
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If you drop that joint while youat sea, that'd have been crazy,
yeah, yeah, that'd have beencrazy for real, because, like
and that's what I tell people,man, I was telling this story
before man, like we had a studioin the barracks, bro In the
barracks.
Like we literally went to home.
Man shout out to Hash, shoutout to G Money, shout out to
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Hash, shout out to G Money.
Shout out to Legend, shout outto Cap.
And the crazy part is Legendand Cap were staff NCOs.
Wow, staff NCOs.
Me and Hash and G Money, we wereall NCOs, sergeants, you know
what I'm saying.
Break that down.
Break that down for them, theNCOs, oh yeah.
So you know how it is, man,when you in the military you got
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, you got E1, e2, e3, e1,private E2, private first class
E3, last corporal, once you,once you get to that next rank,
e4, you become anon-commissioned officer.
So if you see any Marine withthat red stripe on their leg,
that's the blood stripe.
That's how you at least yeah,you at least the NCO, yeah, you,
at least an NCO.
You know what I'm saying.
So their rank is either E4 orhigher.
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You know what I'm saying.
So E4, e5 are NCOs.
E6 to E9 is staff NCOs, whichis staff, non-commissioned
officers.
So we are, we hold a biggerbillet, you know what I mean.
And we held to a higherstandard.
You know what I mean.
But at the same time, all ofthe standard is marine standard.
So our shit are already high.
You know what I'm saying.
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Just higher the higher you go,yeah.
So, man, it was what E-5s, e-4s, e-5s and E-6s.
Okay, we literally built thestudio.
Man went to Home Depot, passedwhen they built that joint G-M
hash, when they built that jointg money, because we used to use
the, uh, the wall lockers andwe opened the doors and that was
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the booth and we put padding onthe on the back on the doors
and inside of that was the booth.
But then we got even morecreative, went to, uh, home
depot, got some plywood, gotsome, um, uh, what else we get?
Oh plass, yeah, that was forthe window, so we can see the
artist in the booth.
You know what I'm saying?
No, it was drywall.
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We had got some drywall, gotlike three things of drywall,
cut it up, literally had it inthe corner in the barracks room.
Man, if you know, on 21 area inDel Mar, across from the gas
station, the little gas stationslash PX, px, yep.
Gas station, the little gasstation slash PX, px, yep by the
armory.
We was in that barracks rightthere across man, and literally
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we would record and then wewould hit San Diego do street
team stuff putting stuff up.
Man, that's what I'm saying.
Like a lot of these people, theybe wanting the fame, but they
ain't putting in the grind, likeyou know what I'm saying, like
I've been putting in the grind,like you know I'm saying like
I've been putting in this worksince oh four.
You know I'm saying and it's,and it's, and I've been, I've
been, you know I'm saying I'vebeen trying and trying, and
trying, and trying and tryingand then, once I figured out my
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lane, I got in with the, withthe beat battles, and then I
started learning how to reallylike make music for artists,
because the beat battles is dope, don't get me wrong.
Shout out to rest in peace toJay Hatch.
Shout out to Sis from iStandard.
Also, shout out to Elle too,man, because Elle got us in that
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nice, yeah, got us connected.
You know what I mean.
And multiple people.
And it was crazy because some ofthe people that I knew from L's
joint the boom boom, the boomboom room writing camp, like we
came from beat battling.
You know what I'm saying.
So that's how I knew some ofthe people in there.
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But I met you and I met a bunchof more dope artists, dope
producers and writers.
So, um, yeah, man, shout out tothe boom boom wrong writing
camp man.
Because yeah, yeah, they, theydefinitely, definitely got me
focusing on artists.
But yeah, man, um, even then,if you didn't do the I mean you
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did do the album on scene youjust didn't publish it, didn't
put it out until when you gotback.
What you learned from being outthere, I'll still say that it
was, I would say, the greatestlearning opportunity so far in
my life.
All the exercises, all thedifferent opportunities that
I've had.
I still say the greatestlearning opportunities so far in
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my life.
Um, all the exercises, all thedifferent opportunities that
I've had.
I still say the mute tops it,um, it was.
At times it was a littleoverwhelming, but hey, that's
the nature of the beast.
You know I'm saying sometimesyou're gonna go through periods
of where it's like dang, I don'tknow exactly everything that I
need to do, but that's why yougot.
You know I'm saying, uh, yougot, uh, you got a team.
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You know what I'm saying.
You got a team and you gotpeople to bounce ideas off and
you have leadership to.
You know what I'm saying Makethe right, uh, mind frame.
But I would say, uh, the mainthings that I learned while I
was out there was like, uh,self-reflection, because you,
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you're like in the middle of theocean.
You know, I'm saying, andthere's times where you don't
have like anything to do, likeyou just have off time.
You feel, I'm saying, sometimesyou'll have that ability, or if
you're on liberty, that's whenI felt like I was really playing
the game like of life.
You know, I'm saying, when Iwas seeing different cultures,
I'm like hearing peoplecommunicate in different
languages and like doingdifferent things, stuff like
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that, like, and I think that'swhen I recognized like, oh, like
this world is much bigger thanwhat I know, right, and that was
one of the top lessons that Ilearned.
I was like dang, like it ain'tjust like america, you know, I
I'm saying Like there's, it'sglobal, it's international.
So that was the biggest lessonis recognizing, like, how
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important it is to tap into,like different cultures and
stuff like that, learn differentways of life, stuff like that.
So, all right.
So we had our talk earlier, yeah, a while back, and I'm going to
do this thing Every time I getsomebody that's in the military.
I'm going to do this.
I'm going to do this segment.
This segment is going to becalled Pros and Cons.
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All right, proficiency andconduct All right.
That's what pros and cons mean.
All right, pros and cons.
What is your pros and consbeing that we're going off the
marine corps standards, fivebeing the highest, you know what
I mean, and one being thelowest?
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Uh, what is your pros and conson going on a mute, pros and
cons on going on a mule?
And this is what I would saybefore I get my pro.
I just want to background realquick, yeah, before I just say a
number.
It's not based on how luxuriousor luxurious or like, how like
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glamorous it is, because it's adeployment.
You feel what I'm saying?
It's not going to be like, it'snot going to be pretty.
Keep it a buck, keep it a buck.
Yeah, keep it a buck.
I would really give it a three.
I would give it a three, four,three, five.
I give it a three, four, three,five.
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A little bit above.
Yeah, I know it's like dang,that's a little bit.
You know what I'm saying.
That's kind of that's likeprivate, that's PFC, that's PFC
and got their.
That's PFC.
And Lance Crumple, yo, yeah,that's 3-4-3-5.
But it's the reason why I rankit there is because it forced me
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, it challenged me, to become abetter version of myself, to
literally like figure out a way,because this mission set that I
was hoping was outside.
Anything that I've worked in itwas I've been working in like
air station units.
I've been doing air wing stufflike, um, working up in Cherry
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Point that's the home of thewing, you feel what I'm saying.
Working at Second Maul, I done,did that too, been in intel,
but like all aviation stuff.
So going to the MAGTAP whereyour job is to cover every
mission set, that ain't just theaviation stuff, that's the
ground side.
So how are the grunts going tobe affected?
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That's the ocean side, you knowwhat I'm saying.
And the Navy, they have theirMETOCs there too.
So leaning heavy on them andmaking sure that our
understanding was consistent, sothat way I could communicate
that same information out to allthe other commanders, blue side
or green side, same, you know,information out to all the other
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commanders, blue side or greenside.
So it was like I had never beenin that capacity to have to do
all those things, and so I wouldsay, because it forced me to be
in that position, um, that waslike a good takeaway, that was a
real plus, because now I gotthe confidence that shoot where.
Where do you want me to go?
What do you want me to do?
Shoot In the military, outsidethe military?
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This is me talking to God.
Now you feel what I'm saying.
It's like cause I really had to.
I really had to faith, man, Ireally had to like tap in and
like strengthen my relationshipwith God, because if I didn't,
if I didn't, man, it would havebeen so easy to get caught up.
But yeah, that was definitelywhy I give it a 3-5, 3-7.
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So 3-4, 3-5 just went to a 3-5,3-7?
.
Oh, I said 3-4, 3-5?
Then we gonna keep it.
Yeah, you said 3-4, 3-5.
I said, dang, you done, rampedit up some more.
Nah, nah, nah, we gon' keep itthere.
We gon' keep it there because,yeah, man, so what you uh, what?
Seven, what?
Six years in six years, in sixyears, in, it'll be 60 years.
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August 19, 19, yeah, august 19th.
Six years, man, what, uh,what's the future, bro?
You gonna, you gonna reenlist,you going to stay, you going to
get out what you going to do?
Because we had this talk, wedid talk about this, we talked
about this.
I want the people to know.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I would definitely say I'mgoing to stick to our conclusion
I'll say I'll revisit it okay,but uh, ideally I do want to do
music full-time.
I want to really develop thebrand and I want to.
I want to do things now.
I know that there's ways aboutgoing about it to where I don't
have to fully get out likethere's a reservist opportunity,
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there's um, things like that.
But I also recognize thatgovernment obligation does trump
whatever it is that you tryingto do.
And I'm not saying that's a badthing doing 20 is not a bad
thing at all but it's when youhave such a conflicting interest
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of things that you want to doand things that you have to do.
Whenever I see I'm not sayingthis is all staffing skills,
this is not all leadership, it'snot all officers but when they
stay in and they forcethemselves to go through you
know, I'm saying just so thatthey can get the pension they
end up leaving a trail of blood,not literally, but like
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figuratively, to where it's liketheir work relationships are
terrible, the home relationshipsare terrible and they've gotten
the check, but they turn aroundand look back and it's like
they haven't.
You know what I'm saying, andthat's not everybody's case,
that's not everybody's case, butI'm saying whenever you believe
that there's case.
That's not everybody's case,but I'm saying, whenever you
believe that there's somethingthat you like, want to do,
really want to do, but yousuppress it and you kind of like
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, just like, nah, I'll just dothe 20, there's a little bit of
a resentment that can be built,and I'm saying that's always the
case, for sure, but there's aresentment that can be built
that then gets pushed on theother people and I've seen that,
I've seen that it still happens.
It's not everyone, but I thinkthat that's something that I'd
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rather not, I'd rather not tryto see.
I don't know.
Yeah, man, um, I feel you man,like I told you before, bro, I
was, I was like that, the first,my first enlistment.
I'm like man, I'm getting out,yeah, I'm getting out, I don't
wanna do this.
Nope, I'm done.
And then I had to think aboutit, man, cause it was like that
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long run, like are we, are wedoing?
Are we playing a short game orare we playing a long game?
And that, and that's how I wastelling you earlier, well,
previous conversations weeks ago, like it's really just on what
you want to make of it, man,because when you look at it, yes
, you're going to have somesuperiors, you're going to have
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your team around you, you'regoing to have people that's your
, that's going to be there withyou, but at the end of the day,
it's you dog.
So it's whatever you want to do, you know what I'm saying and
it's what you want to make of it.
And that's why I was telling you, like S might be, I think S in
15, now 15 years, and he's stilldoing it.
He's still doing it.
He's still doing it, he makinga way.
You know what I'm saying.
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And he Navy, he on the ship allthe time, or he only go on the
ship when we need to deploy.
He's on the ship all the time.
You know what I'm saying.
So when I look at S and I'm like, man, if S still can do it,
like you can do it, you knowwhat I'm saying.
But if your heart ain't there,I mean like, yeah, like, do what
you got to do, man, to make thebest for you.
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But I'm telling you, man, if itwas up to me, bro, I'd still be
in right now.
I probably wouldn't put in mypapers because I'm already at 20
.
You know what I'm saying.
This year I'll be 21.
You know what I'm saying, butyou're looking to get that DD214
.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
But at the same time, like you,you stay in.
Like I probably would havestayed in until the girls got in
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college.
You know what I'm saying.
Okay, cause the girls, like youknow my, my oldest, she turned
13 Saturday, so you know what Imean.
And four more years she, youknow, four or five more years
she had been in college.
So I probably would have stayedin until at least my first one
got into college.
And if not, you know I'm saying, but I look at it now it's like
man, everything happened for areason.
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Like it was a reason for me toget forced out.
Like I didn't get in trouble.
You know I'm saying like it wasjust a hey, they had that order
.
Saying like, if you, you are e5and you don't pick up e6 by your
10-year mark, you got to getout.
I was already at 11 and I'mlike, if I'm a recruiting dude,
y'all can let me pass at 11.
Well, y'all can't.
Just let me, just let me.
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Yeah, realist, you know I'msaying let me reenlist and let's
see what, let's see how it goes.
So, yeah, bro, um, it's on you.
You know me, at the end of theday it's on you.
So I look at that and I justlike because, man, music is
everything to me and I know itis to you.
So, listen, I still look.
You see the mic in the back.
You see everything.
I got everything here.
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So when I need to come in andwork, this is my space to just
vent.
This is where I vent at.
I'm doing music, ps5 right here.
Everything I do is right here.
So it's like you have to lookat it like that.
I do is right here.
You have to look at it likethat.
But you been in for this long.
You are already ahead.
You know what I'm saying.
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You are already ahead.
So if you do get out, I knowyou'll be straight, because I
mean not only your job, yougoing to school too while you're
in.
I was Once I got on a ship Ididn't drop.
I guess I did, but ship Ididn't.
I didn't drop, I guess I did.
But, like once I'll say thesummer roll around, I should be
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good to continue my continue, mycollege classes.
I'm trying to go for marketing,marketing, management.
Yeah, I went to school forthat's what I went to school for
Marketing.
Yeah, yeah, that's what I wentto school for.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's, that's a business degree.
It's still business.
So you know what I'm saying Get, get it man.
Um, knock it out man.
Uh, now, when you go back toschool, I've been out for a
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while, since 2015.
What they, what they Are, theystill giving you $4,500 for each
fiscal year for school whileyou're in.
Or did they up that?
I'm sure they probably upped it.
I'm sure they upped it.
Either way, $4,500 is stillgood.
You know what I'm saying yeah,yeah, yeah, while you're in,
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this ain't even your GI Bill.
Yeah, and it's TA, this isstraight TA.
Yeah, it's all tuitionassistance.
You don't touch post 9-11, youdon't touch Montgomery, you
don't touch none of that.
So, yeah, I mean to be honest,I haven't had to pay down for
classes.
I encourage all of my juniors,I encourage everybody that I
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talk, to do tuition assistance.
Go try and even take someclasses, even if you're not.
Really.
Go try and even take someclasses, even if you're not
really fully getting a degree.
Just take some classes, learnsome because it's free.
So, yeah, I don't know theexact number, though I don't
know the exact number, I lovefree.
If it's free, give it to me,unless it's something else.
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But hey, when it comes toschool and uniforms or whatever,
if it's free, give it to me.
Give it to me, dog, I need it.
You know what I mean?
They're still doing thatallowance and stuff, the
allowance for everything, forthe uniforms and stuff.
Yeah, that's what I'm sayingand that's the part that I miss
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too.
Man, I hate moving.
I think that's probably one ofthe biggest things I hate not
having no more man.
Tmo.
I need TMO, bro, when I move, Ineed it.
I'm not touching nothing.
They ain't wrapping up.
It's DMO, yeah, dmo.
It's TMO's DMO, yeah, dmo.
Dmo to DMO yeah, hey, I ain'ttouching nothing.
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Go ahead, wrap it up.
That's in the box, okay, let mejust check it off.
You know what I'm saying.
I ain't got to touch nothing,dog, you can't.
That's one thing I miss DMOAnytime I move.
They got my joint, but you dogot to check.
But you do gotta check, you dogotta check and make sure that
they put the same in there.
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Sometimes, right, and it'sstill like a great service,
because I'd rather have somebodyelse do it for me than for me
to pack everything up myself.
But then, like sometimes, bro,I've heard the horror stories
where people just throwing boxesall over the place, something
breaking by the time they getback to your spot.
So, like you said, like it's agood service, but just make sure
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you check, just make sure youcheck, make sure you do the due
diligence, bro, because yeah,they stole my dang old
daughter's uh, piggy bank bro Ihad.
She had like a hundred dollarsand two dollar bills, so she had
52 bills in her piggy bank.
Bro, they stole that joint.
You know what I'm saying?
Like that for a hundred, thatis wild, bro.
It was a custom piggy bank.
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It had her name on it andeverything.
I'm like, yeah, y'all gonnasteal that, I'm gonna steal a
piggy bank.
A piggy bank, bro, a piggy bank, where was this at?
Was this in Pendleton or wasthis in Oakland?
Yeah, pendleton, dog, I ain'tnever make it dog.
It was Pendleton, it wasPendleton.
It was Pendleton Because here'sthe thing From Jersey to Cali,
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they ain't mess with it, fromCali back to DC.
That's when stuff startedgetting all over the place.
Yeah, okay, stuff got a littleshaky, man.
But, um, man, what's next?
Yeah, man, so next step, and Iguess the next step is currently
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happening right now is buildingthat foundation, um, getting
back outside, doing, I guess,the the what they say, chop wood
, carry water.
You know what I'm saying.
Doing the things that, like atthe time they may not you know
what I'm saying seem like asmuch, but the deposits that,
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like, build interest over time.
You know what I'm saying, buildvalue over time.
So that's why I was trying to goto different studios, network
reconnect.
That's why, as soon as I cameback, or even a little bit while
I was in the port, I tried toreach out and stuff like that,
because people be saying theyreach out, they don't reach out
for real, they don't be reachingout.
Oh, bro, I'm going to get withyou.
I'm going to get with you onthe intro, I'm going to fuck
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with you.
I'm going to fuck with you.
But, yeah, like that, um, sobuilding relationships,
reconnecting and stuff like that, getting in the studio and then
, um, getting a better structureon the business, uh, currently
talking to a few legalprofessionals and stuff like
that, on how I can best setmyself up so that way I can
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leverage my ip, intellectualproperty right, all the
trademark and copyright.
It's expensive now.
It's expensive now, but thenyou take into consideration how
that can help you on the backend come time for taxes and
stuff like that and helping you.
So getting that locked down,getting social media locked down
, and then kind of having a planand a strategy that's, I would
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say, say could take me out threemonths.
I want a 90-day kind of like aI guess, content pool that I can
pull from and I can scheduleout so that way, even once I do
leave Atlanta because I'm notgoing to be here too much longer
I got some stuff I got to doback in freaking Lejeune, so you
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ain't taking 30 days yet.
So I'm on it right now.
But at the same time, once weleft, I kind of split it up
because we had holiday leave sothey let everybody leave and
stuff like that.
Um, and now I'm on like kind oflike the post post deployment
leave.
I I already checked out of themeal and everything like that.
So I'm done there.
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But even though I'm on leave, Ialways like to use this
opportunity to see what, what,what can I do to build you know
what I'm saying the brand?
What can I do to build business?
Because it's not, it don't feellike a job to me, bro.
It don't feel like, oh, like ajob to me, bro.
It don't feel like, oh, I haveto use my leave and I have to go
back to work.
No, like it's like this is whatI want to do.
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You know what I'm saying?
Um, so now, yeah, like I said,having that, I guess, pool of
content that I can pull from foran extended period of time, so
that way, once I am over back inleslie and stuff like that,
it's still running, it's stillgoing.
So, yeah, that's the main thingGetting the structure right,
building the foundation.
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So that way you have like, a,not a consistency, but like,
what's the word?
Like, not motion, but like youknow what I mean.
Like not motion, but like youknow what I mean.
Like, um, it's like when youhave things lined up.
You know what I'm saying.
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Um, it could be like yourschedule or momentum, like some
momentum built up.
Yeah, yeah, I mean you, yeah,you definitely.
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I mean the fact that you live inGeorgia, you from Georgia, like
you already got a plus upbecause you can get down to the
A quickly.
You know what I'm saying.
Like you know and be in allbecause you can get down to the
eight quickly.
You know what I'm saying.
Like you know, and be in allthe studios that you need to be
in and be around those people.
It's just the only thing, man,that bothers me with that is
that a lot of times, man, youknow your music is good, you
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know what I'm saying and youknow that you just need to get
put in with the right artist.
But a lot of times, man, they,they still be kind of like
gatekeeping and I don't beunderstanding that.
Like, bro, like it's enoughfood out here for everybody.
I need it out.
Like you know what I'm sayingand that's the only thing.
And that's why, when I be doinga lot of these events and stuff
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, man, I kind of like do thepros and cons on them, like what
I, what I get from it.
You know what I mean.
I mean people.
I mean that's my goal.
Like, every time I go in thereI try to speak to everybody,
cause for some reason peoplealways say, like I got this
demeanor of me, that like whatI'm saying, like I'm one of the
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coolest ones, and we chop it upall day, literally the whole
section.
Yeah, so like, and we wasn'teven on the team together.
We wasn't even on the same team.
Yeah, we wasn't even on thesame team.
So it's like I try to my goalwhen I go in there and I try to
build relationships.
Build relationships, like, talkto these people, build rapport,
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like you know what I mean, thisis what gets you to the next
step, like you know what I'msaying, because they, they see
that you passionate.
If you just sitting theretrying to just like, oh, just
listen to this, just listen tothis, just listen to this, and
you ain't really just trying toget a quick dollar man, that's
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to me I get it.
If people hurting, if you gotto do that, cool.
But like when we in thoseestablishments like, bro, we was
in OutKast, they ain't going instudios, they ain't going in
studios, bro.
So that was, to me, was just aplus.
It's a plus and what I loveabout Alana, it don't look like
a studio when you pull up to it.
Yeah, so you go through thatdoor, no key.
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You're like, oh, they got awhole stage in one room, like
the joint is dope man.
So it's like for everybody outthere that's trying to be a
producer, trying to be asongwriter, trying to be an
artist, build relationships, man, but hey, also listen, because
sometimes people be trying tofinesse you and if you one of
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them, people like yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, boy, you
gonna get you, you gonna godown, yeah, you gonna get got.
You know what I'm saying.
So just make sure y'all payattention to that.
Yeah, before we get out of here, bro, we got gym class, gym
class G-E-M, not G-Y-M.
Yeah, what is some gyms or agym that you can leave to the
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people, man, to carry on intheir toolbox?
One thing that I always, thathas always stuck with me, was do
something that no one has toask you to do, if that makes
sense, if you're going to chasea purpose, if you're going to
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chase something that you want todo full time, like, let's say,
I may not know it for everyoneelse, but for me it's music.
No one has to ask me to make.
No one has to ask me to makemusic, no one has to ask me to
make beats, stuff like that.
So when I'm thinking about,okay, my time in the Marine
Corps is looking slim, like it's, look like I'm on the outside,
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I'm about to be on the outsidesoon.
So I'm asking myself all thesequestions and I'm also playing
the mental game, like what doesmy day look like?
Okay, I said I want to do music, but how do I structure that?
And it all stems back to purpose.
It all stems back to whatyou're willing to be persistent
in throughout all the struggles,throughout everything.
But if you can answer that foryourself and if you can hone in
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on that and really organize yourthoughts about that thing, you
could go really far.
You could go really far.
So I'll definitely say thatthat's my, that's my piece of
advice.
So, pretty much, do the rightthing when nobody's watching.
Yeah, do the right thing withnobody watching and then do what
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you like, really love to do,what you genuinely love to do,
like something that's just lit,because something that's lit may
not be lit five, ten years downthe road, that part.
But if you do something thatyou love to do, you may be the,
the change, or you may be likethe turning point, or you may be
that piece of innovation thattakes, whatever it is, even
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further.
You feel what I'm saying.
So don't just like, don't,don't chase a trend.
Find out what your purpose is,find out what it is that you
love to do and become organizedin that and then you'll you'll
see progress.
Facts, that's big facts, man.
Jd bro, hey man, it's alwaysgood man, it's always love man.
But look, jd bro, hey man, it'salways good man, it's always
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love man.
I appreciate you, man, alwaysFor coming on the pod, man, and
always make sure y'all followit's at JDT right Music.
Yes, sir, JDT Music 1.
Yeah, at JDT Music 1.
Make sure y'all go look up hismusic.
D music one.
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Um, make sure y'all go go lookup his music.
Uh, dope producer, everything,man, you know.
I mean, just go check it out,uh, give it a listen and, hey,
you might work with him one day.
Who knows?
You know what I'm saying.
This is why I do what I do withthese podcasts, bro, because I
don't want to just grabcelebrities.
You know I'm, I want to grabpeople that's on the come up,
you know what I'm saying so Ican show the people, like, look,
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bro was on the pod before y'alleven took off, before y'all
even knew, before y'all evenknew who he really was.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, bro, man, I appreciateyou man, like always, man, we
gone oh.
yeah, yes, sir, what's up everybody?
This is relationships work morethan money.
Podcast.
I'm tweezy, who do?
I got to the right of me.
Hey, we got jdt music man.
We got jdt, uh, producer,songwriter, composer.
What's going on, brother?
Man, you look everything.
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Man, you forgot something else,though.
Man, you got the most importantpart.
Oh, yeah, yeah, active duty,you know, yeah, duty, for sure,
yes, sir, um, what?
What?
I mean?
Even me, bro, like we met whattwo, three years ago?
It's been a minute right at thewriting camp.
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Yeah, yeah, so, um, let's giveus a rundown, man, where you
from, where you started, how didyou start music?
Just give us a rundown oneverything, for sure, for sure.
I'll definitely say the firstsuch point for music for me
definitely came from familySeeing my sister she rapped
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Seeing my aunts, and like theysing, and like my uncles too,
they were into music and stufflike that.
So that was something that Ialways wanted to do.
I didn't necessarily want to, Ididn't necessarily want to rap,
but I knew I wanted to dosomething that had to do with
production.
I wanted to make a beat, or Iwanted to.
You know, I'm saying like me,because I it was the beat that
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you listen to, that you're like,oh, this is this song.
You feel what I'm saying and Ialways wanted to kind of have
that connection with it.
So I say, by the time I reached, let's say, 16, 17, so 2017, my
homie, who was also a producer,b-man Madman.
He moved to the neighborhoodand it was like during the
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summertime around them we wouldalways hoop and stuff like that
and every now and again we goback to the crib and we just
chill and just play a game.
And I've seen fo studio.
Yeah, it was like I think backthen fo studio 12 was the main
software, yeah, and uh, he waslike aren't?
I was like yo, what is thatLike?
How do you?
I see all these like buttonsand like lights and shit like
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that.
And I see the software and I'mlike how do you like?
What are you doing?
And that's when he told me hewas like yo, hey, I'm making,
I'm making music, I'm makingbeats.
I was like making beats, likeyou're making the beat yourself,
it ain't?
No, you don't need like$500,000 worth of equipment.
You know what I'm saying?
So then I was like all right,dang, like it's possible.
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And I used to go and just makethese because he had the demo
version at the time.
We wasn't paying for shit, wewasn't paying for nothing, bro,
we had the demo version at thetime, yeah, bro.
And then, yeah, yeah, bro, anduh, and then, yeah, like not too
long after that, I was like youknow what?
I could just download the demoversion.
I'm on my family laptop over,uh, over at the house.
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So then I was like, all right,cool, so that's what I did.
And then, ever since then, man,ever since then, I just started
making music.
Yeah, what, uh, where you from?
Yeah, so I'm from lawrenceville, georgia, uh, up in guinette
county, not too far, that'sabout 15, 20 minutes from, uh,
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heart of downtown.
So, yeah, I'll say like, everynow and again I pull up to
midtown, like downtown, but eversince I like left and moved out
and stuff like that and reallyseen the music scene, that's
when, like, I'm always down here.
So how long so you was makingbeats before you joined the
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military?
Yeah, yeah, bro, started makingbeats 2017, but I didn't know I
could turn it into a businessuntil 2022.
That's when I started poppingout's, when I started like, okay
, like an llc, like what's that?
What's it?
Um, what's copyright?
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What's trademarks?
What are all these different?
You know, I'm sayingintellectual property.
What is all these things that Icould use to leverage to
actually create a business thatI could do on the outside too?
Okay, and when you, when you uhgot into the Marines, um, you
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got in the ring.
What year?
So I got?
I got in 2019, august 2019.
That's when, uh, that was myfirst day at boot camp.
You know, you know about it,yeah, man, you know, that's
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where the, that's where the,that's where everything starts.
Man, like, it's going to makeor break you.
Everything starts, bro, that'swhere everything starts.
Break you down, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, man, it's going to makeor break you.
Everything starts, bro,everything starts.
Break you down, yeah, bro,break you down, build you back
up, help you get confident andstuff and stuff like that.
That's the beginning point,right there.
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So, what encouraged you to jointhe military?
For sure, mainly the structure.
What encouraged?
What encouraged you to join themilitary?
For sure, so, uh, mainly thestructure.
Um, and having somethingafterwards, like after college,
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or not after college, but afterhigh school, um, I wanted to go
to college.
I just didn't know how to goabout, like, paying for it and
everything like that.
So I just didn't want to.
I didn't want to like forcecollege at the time.
So I just was like I'll just,I'll just do the military thing
and what you doing?
That man, like you, said youdidn't even.
So you, you had you got yourfeet wet first in the military
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and then you said, boom, let metry to.
Let me try to turn this, thismusic thing, into a business.
Who, who encouraged you to dothat?
Like, was it just you just outthe blue, or was it like
somebody that said like, oh, youknow, you can make money off
this?
I think it was out the, not outthe blue.
I won't say it was out the blue, but I would say like, because
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I've always been kind ofconnected to music.
So even before because, like Isaid, I started producing in
2017, I joined in 2019, so bythat time I already knew about
the south sides metro, I alreadyknew about, like, all the big
producers and stuff like that.
So following them kind ofconnected me to like a.
It's like another side of themusic business, because you know
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they're advanced producers butthey're also like businessmen.
You feel I'm saying so likeonce I started seeing clips of
like sides of the music business.
I'm like, oh, okay, so you canmake money off this.
And it didn't hit until likeafter I joined.
But I would say that they weredefinitely the first like touch
point in terms of like, okay, Ican actually be successful like
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doing music.
Yeah, well, um, like, give me anormal day, man, because you
know, like in our world, likeyou know, you got a certain time
you gotta get up.
You got a certain time yougotta be at work and work and,
um, what was, what was it likefor you was, was you one of the
ones that was getting it in likeat work, getting it in during
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child, like what you was doing?
So it depends on the day.
Ideally, I like to wake upearly.
So let's say, if we don't have,let's say say, if we do have PT
, right, because you know whatI'm saying PT in the morning you
wake up around 5, 6.
You do that till about like7.30, around there, and then you
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change over.
He knows what I'm talking about.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, change over,change over.
Yeah, you know, change over.
Right, you shower everythinglike that and then, like, you
get dressed like you in yourclothes and stuff like that, and
then you go to a.
I don't go get breakfast first,then I go to work.
Yeah, from there, from about 8to 11.
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I don't know if it changed oranything like that, but that's
around the time for that morning.
You don't get what you need toget done between 8 and 11.
You shot, you shot, you shot.
So exactly, so, around 11 timeframe, that's when I'm going
back, I'm going back to my roomand then I'm either in the gym
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or I'm working on on a beat.
Okay, it just depends on the day.
Like, ideally, that 11 to 13time frame is when I can like
just do me.
I don't got to worry about nowork obligations.
But you know, sometimes workjust it's all over the place and
you don't have that.
You don't have that freedom.
So it's wherever you can, it'slike a rhythm, wherever you can
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find the space, wherever you canfind the space, wherever you
can find the space to do that,what you score on the ASVAB, on
the ASVAB, well, I guess I ain'teven gonna lie, but I was in
the 50s.
I know you had to be in the 50s, cause that's why I asked,
cause your MOS, your job.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you had toscore over 50 to get that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
And let's talk about that.
That mos man, a lot of peopledon't know what mos mean.
Military occupational specialtyspecialty, which is job, your
job, what's your job?
Um, what's your job job field?
So mos 6842?
Right, so that's meteorologyand oceanography analyst
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forecaster.
That's my military occupationalspecialty.
So, like I'm more so trackingoperational impacts to the
mission, um, yeah, like weatherin the environment and stuff
like that.
But then I also have like aresponsibility to like kind of
tailor that to the mission set.
So so if we're doing somethinglike nothing, even crazy, let's
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say we're doing aid,humanitarian aid or something
like that, and I know that it'sfor a large amount of people I
can't just be like, oh, it'sgoing to be this cold, oh, it's
going to be this hot, no, no, no, I have to be like, okay, we're
expecting to do xyz at thistime, based on the environment.
This is the best.
You know, I'm saying like, yeah, asset or means of going about
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it.
You know I'm saying like thatand that's just a suggestion
like I'm not gonna make.
No, you know, I'm saying like,tell people what to do, but at
the same time, yeah, it's my jobto make sure that everyone's
tracking like, okay, this iswhat we got, this is what's
coming in and this is alsowhat's like to expect.
Based on all that, we can movelike this and it'll give us the
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best success.
So that's kind of like my main.
You might be the first, thefirst person that I met in the
military that got that MOS bro.
I ain't even gonna cap what Iheard.
Yeah, man, because like I metreporters that community's small
bro, yeah, but I mean, like Imet reporters.
I had one of the guys in myplatoon in boot camp was a
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reporter, like he was a combatcamera, but he ended up being
crazy part bro.
He ended up being a dude on AFN.
So like yeah, so like I'm inIraq one time and I'm looking at
the AFN and I'm like I thinkhis name was Gerardo Gerardo,
and I'm like yo, is that Gerardo?
You know what I mean and I'mlooking and I'm like yo, that is
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him.
I'm like bruh, like a reporter,news reporter on AFN Network.
So I'm like that shit crazybruh Buddy on Armed Forces
Network, and I was like yo,that's dope, but you are
definitely the first person thathas the weather match.
So you checking water too.
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It's not just, yeah, checkocean Ocean.
So you checking you checkingwater too.
It's not just, yeah, checkocean Ocean.
Yeah, you checking the ocean.
So the ocean is Like what isthat?
Like Like tap, in more thanthat, bro, because I'm like
intrigued bro.
I love like the science part ofeverything, like so, yeah, just
tell me what that entails.
Yeah, for sure, and it's crazy.
You mentioned that like thescience behind it.
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Because I didn't join themilitary to do no science.
Like I ain't gonna lie bro,like I did not join the military
because I didn't expect it.
So I think it was definitelyGod trying to put me in a
position, because I genuinelydid get someone to ask that I
got the minimum required scoreto get a lot of jobs, of jobs.
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So, like you feel I'm saying um, and then I think it's also
when you talk about like howinvolved it is, I could have
easily just been like man, Iain't trying to learn all this
like science stuff.
Because when you talk about theocean and stuff like that, yeah,
as marine, we're shitting theshore.
You feel what I'm saying?
Like we're on the boat beach.
You know I'm saying Like we'reon a boat Beach, you know what
I'm saying, we storming thebeach or whatever the case,
right, that's our whole likeamphibious, like that's our
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whole like culture, and sothat's what they're whenever
they're asking me for likedifferent products and stuff
like that.
I got to take that intoconsideration.
So I'm going to throw a word atyou.
I'm going to throw a word atyou, bear with me, right?
So we got bathymetry, bathymetry, bathymetry, bathym, or
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bathymetry, bathym, bathymetry,bathym, bathymetry, bathymetry.
Yeah, exactly, so it'sliterally like the topography of
not the ocean, but like theland underneath the ocean, if
that makes sense, right, youfeel I'm saying, if you, if you
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have, so you look at, you, lookat places like cali.
Right, you know how they gotbig waves.
You know I'm because, in a longstory short, the symmetry is
much steeper.
You know what I'm saying.
The land underneath the wateris much steeper than on
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somewhere like Jacksonville,north Carolina.
It's very shallow, flat land,flat.
You know what I'm saying.
They don't get no waves overthere in Kent.
You know what I'm saying.
You get some baby waves, bro.
You go crazy over two-footer,you really go crazy over
two-footer, bro.
But in Cali or somewhere likeHawaii, where it is mountainous,
they do have like all that theygot.
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They're known for waves Likeunderneath the water.
Underneath the water yeah, sohis mom is underneath the water
in like Cali and Hawaii.
Well, you got to think, like,just over time, a lot of the
landmarks that we got right nowthey didn't look like that.
You see what I'm saying.
And so, like over time and aslike I guess, I guess the water
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just rose and stuff like thatcovering the islands or whatever
it is that they got going on.
So there's a lot more landmassunderneath from what we just see
.
From all that we see there's alot more landmass underneath
that and it's a lot aboutupwelling and all that stuff.
But I ain't going to lie, it'sa lot.
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It's a lot, bro, it's a lot.
So who would you be giving thisinformation to?
Would it be like a specialoperations unit or amphibious
assault vehicles?
That was my first unit, amtrak3rd AAB.
Oh yeah, I know about Amtrak3rd AAB and Battalion dog over
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there.
We was right off the water inCali.
That was my first introductionto California, bro.
Flying in to San Diego and,boom, going right to Cali.
Third tracks man.
Who do you get this informationto?
It really depends on what theclient is, because there's not
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one set person that I giveinformation to Every at least
for from what I know, every MOShas a DCI, so for my MOS it
falls under the DCI information.
Now, when I joined it wasoperations OK.
So the reason why that'simportant is because that
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depends on which shop I'mworking in.
I used to work really close tothe three and most of the bics
that I've been in like for thepast I would say year, even when
I was on deployment this pastyear.
Um, I was working with the two,so I was working with
intelligence.
Yeah, that's because they'vebeen making a lot of changes.
So what that ends up exposingus to is now we really talk to,
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we're talking to the bigwigs,we're talking to the mission
commander, we're talking to thecolonel, we're talking to the
stars.
You feel what I'm saying?
We're talking to them becausethey got the final say.
So our whole thing is aidingdecision-making process, making
sure, like mission execution islike or operational planning is
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good.
But yeah, it's really like thebig weeks that we be briefing
and stuff like that.
Talk to, yeah, so far, so likeyou.
Just, you just got off adeployment.
What deployment was you on?
Yeah, so let's see March March.
I's see March March.
I think it was 4th, I'm notsure.
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Last year, it was last year,right?
Yeah, last year I was with the24th Mule.
We went out to theMediterranean, the Mediterranean
Sea.
We just did what we had to do.
We was just, we was out.
But, yeah, like, so like,because I want people to
understand, like you know,marines, we air, land and sea,
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and we with the Navy, you waswith the Navy, right, I was with
the Navy, you was with the Navyand y'all, you know, y'all was
out on the Mediterranean andwhat stops did you did?
Or Mediterranean, what stopsdid you did y'all stop at?
Oh, we stopped in Denmark.
Okay, see, that's why I'm madman.
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I'm listening.
Go ahead, hold on.
I'll get back to Denmark,because Denmark wasn't even a
full stop, but I did touch land,so I'm counting.
If you touch land, that counts,that counts.
Denmark, spain, greece, turkey,which Turkey was crazy?
Cyprus, yeah, where else?
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I think that was it.
I think that was it for me.
But depending on who you wereattached to, you could have gone
to, like, other places inGreece, or you could have gone
to different places around theworld.
So it depends, because special,certain missions, they require
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you to do certain like differentstuff, so certain people got to
go, like like other countriesand stuff like that.
I'm not.
I'm not sure about what youwould have.
Magta, yeah, you, you you have.
Yeah, okay, yeah, you you have.
Um, it was, it was a greatlearning experience.
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I'll forever say that how longwas you gone?
For what?
Seven months an experience.
I'll forever say that how longwere you there?
Was you gone for what?
Seven months or a year?
How long you was gone on theseat?
I was gone about seven.
I remember you hitting me up.
Oh, yeah, yeah, I reached out.
So like December, right, yeah,about December, november,
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december, yeah, december, I cameback.
December I came back.
Yeah, december I came back.
And, man, I was so glad to behome, bro, like I don't know how
to explain it I was just soglad to see my fam, see my
friends and just like be back inone location.
Yeah, but I mean, you know,like the thing with us, man like
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you.
So one of my benefit tags wastraveling adventure, bro,
remember, I told you I was arecruiter.
So like now I look back at itbecause they used to be like yo,
y'all probably just here, justfor this, y'all probably just
here for that.
And I was like man, like I'm in, like I want an education,
opportunities.
You know what I'm saying.
I wanted to travel, anadventure.
But I also wanted pride ofbelonging.
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You know what I'm saying.
I've always been a part of ateam.
So once I got Cali man, rememberhow MOS they tell you hey, east
Coast, west Coast, overseas,put it in whatever order, and
you're probably going to go.
That's probably where you'regoing to get stationed at your
first duty station.
So I'm like overseas, westcoast, east coast.
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So at the time they didn't sendnobody from Motor T over there,
so I had to get west coast.
It was crazy because the team,the class before mine and Fort
Leonard Wood, they went overseas, east coast, west coast.
They went to all three.
Okay, my class didn't get it,it was just East Coast, west
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Coast.
You know what I'm saying.
I made sure I didn't want to goto Lejeune.
It's just something like hey, Ijust left from there, bro, I
just left from there bro.
I just don't like it, man.
I think because of MCT I'm likeew, like this is like nah, I'm
straight there.
Ain't nothing exciting overhere, yeah.
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So I got West Coast, got Cali.
That's my only regret, bro, isnot going on the mute.
That's why I said I'm going toget back to it, because when I
got back from Iraq the secondtime, I had orders to go
overseas to O oki, and that wasmy thing.
I'm like I want to touch everypart of the marine corps, um, as
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a, as a, you know, enlistedmotor t sergeant, you know I'm
saying, or whatever rank I wasgonna be.
And, um, sometimes, man, Iregret it because it's like if I
would have went over there Iwould have got the experience
overseas, um, but I ended upcoming to Quantico.
So I don't I don't really fullyregret it, because a lot of
people that I still got in mylife, that's my brothers, came
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from Quantico.
You know what I'm saying.
So, um, but I also got marriedtoo, in Quantico, because if I
left to Okie I wouldn't havebeen able to marry my kid's mom
you know what I'm saying Becausethey would have sent me over
there as unaccompanied because Iwasn't married when I got my
orders.
You know what I'm saying.
So that's why I said you knowwhat, cool, but the Mew man.
I used to see all my homies theRed Patchers, everybody the Red
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Patchers.
I used to see all of them andI'm like dog where y'all going
and they're like man, I don'tknow.
We going, you know we about togo down to San Diego and train,
or the ship would come up to usand pedal them and all the
tracks today are going to driveout to the ship and I was dope
just watching them like, driveout.
Or the L-Cats, the hovercraftswould take all our vehicles.
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Yeah, we'll take all ourvehicles and drive them out to
the ship.
And the ship looked so closebut it was so far away and I was
watching and I'm like man, Iwant to go on the mute because I
know they get to stop atdifferent ports and you know,
have some liberty, you know, andhave a good time.
Yeah, you got to have some Libo,but you need Libo because if
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you don't have Libo, you on thatshit.
For how long?
You could be on that shit for ahundred more, a hundred or more
, a hundred or more days, bro,just ocean.
Now, when you just in the water, right, right, did you have
your laptop there so you canmake beats still?
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
So you had a plus there, butI'm not always able to.
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You know what I'm saying.
It's like I said rhythm, becauseyou know, especially once you
get to an SEO rank, it'sdifferent.
If you're new to the fleet andyou go to a mute.
You feel what I'm saying, notsaying that you won't have to
step up regardless.
Everyone has to step upregardless.
Everyone has to step upregardless of what your rank is
when you deploy out there.
But as a sergeant, especiallylike you, it's not just you, you
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feel what I'm saying, it's youand whoever else is around you
and whoever else is in yoursection, in your shop.
You also have a responsibility.
Like you know what I'm saying,make sure that stuff's going
good so that way the staff canknow ain't too much, ain't doing
too much.
You know what I'm saying.
You're supposed to be thebridge, you're supposed to be
the guy, um, and so I mean,honestly, I just wanted to help
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the team, anything I could do tohelp the team, and then, once
everything was good with likewith them, anything that I
wanted to do, then it's like ohyeah, I'm on it, because that's
when I go to the birthing,that's when I go to the library.
I wouldn't go to the mess hallbecause there's too many people
down there, but just gosomewhere and then I'm cooking.
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I made the Mind that Seed thelittle beat tape.
I think I dropped it.
I dropped it on Instagram andstuff like that.
It's on all platforms and stufftoo, but it was just something
that I just kept creatingthroughout the entire seven
months, kept creating, keptmaking beats, kept making music
and stuff like that.
Yeah, man, it can getoverwhelming sometimes, though.
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Here's the thing Amon at C, youdropped that while you was at C.
Yeah, so you had Wi-Fi, youhooked up to whatever platform,
what you DistroKid, whatever.
You know what I'm saying.
No, no, no, I dropped it afterI finished it.
Oh, you finished it, okay.
Okay, I was about to say that'shard.
You know what I'm saying.
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If you drop that joint while youat sea, that'd have been crazy,
yeah, yeah, that'd have beencrazy for real, because, like
and that's what I tell people,man, I was telling this story
before man, like we had a studioin the barracks, bro In the
barracks.
Like we literally went to home.
Man shout out to Hash, shoutout to G Money, shout out to
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Hash, shout out to G Money.
Shout out to Legend, shout outto Cap.
And the crazy part is Legendand Cap were staff NCOs.
Wow, staff NCOs.
Me and Hash and G Money, we wereall NCOs, sergeants, you know
what I'm saying.
Break that down.
Break that down for them, theNCOs, oh yeah.
So you know how it is, man,when you in the military you got
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, you got E1, e2, e3, e1,private E2, private first class
E3, last corporal, once you,once you get to that next rank,
e4, you become anon-commissioned officer.
So if you see any Marine withthat red stripe on their leg,
that's the blood stripe.
That's how you at least yeah,you at least the NCO, yeah, you,
at least an NCO.
You know what I'm saying.
So their rank is either E4 orhigher.
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You know what I'm saying.
So E4, e5 are NCOs.
E6 to E9 is staff NCOs, whichis staff, non-commissioned
officers.
So we are, we hold a biggerbillet, you know what I mean.
And we held to a higherstandard.
You know what I mean.
But at the same time, all ofthe standard is marine standard.
So our shit are already high.
You know what I'm saying.
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Just higher the higher you go,yeah.
So, man, it was what E-5s, e-4s, e-5s and E-6s.
Okay, we literally built thestudio.
Man went to Home Depot, passedwhen they built that joint G-M
hash, when they built that jointg money, because we used to use
the, uh, the wall lockers andwe opened the doors and that was
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the booth and we put padding onthe on the back on the doors
and inside of that was the booth.
But then we got even morecreative, went to, uh, home
depot, got some plywood, gotsome, um, uh, what else we get?
Oh plass, yeah, that was forthe window, so we can see the
artist in the booth.
You know what I'm saying?
No, it was drywall.
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We had got some drywall, gotlike three things of drywall,
cut it up, literally had it inthe corner in the barracks room.
Man, if you know, on 21 area inDel Mar, across from the gas
station, the little gas stationslash PX, px, yep.
Gas station, the little gasstation slash PX, px, yep by the
armory.
We was in that barracks rightthere across man, and literally
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we would record and then wewould hit San Diego do street
team stuff putting stuff up.
Man, that's what I'm saying.
Like a lot of these people, theybe wanting the fame, but they
ain't putting in the grind, likeyou know what I'm saying, like
I've been putting in the grind,like you know I'm saying like
I've been putting in this worksince oh four.
You know I'm saying and it's,and it's, and I've been, I've
been, you know I'm saying I'vebeen trying and trying, and
trying, and trying and tryingand then, once I figured out my
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lane, I got in with the, withthe beat battles, and then I
started learning how to reallylike make music for artists,
because the beat battles is dope, don't get me wrong.
Shout out to rest in peace toJay Hatch.
Shout out to Sis from iStandard.
Also, shout out to Elle too,man, because Elle got us in that
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nice, yeah, got us connected.
You know what I mean.
And multiple people.
And it was crazy because some ofthe people that I knew from L's
joint the boom boom, the boomboom room writing camp, like we
came from beat battling.
You know what I'm saying.
So that's how I knew some ofthe people in there.
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But I met you and I met a bunchof more dope artists, dope
producers and writers.
So, um, yeah, man, shout out tothe boom boom wrong writing
camp man.
Because yeah, yeah, they, theydefinitely, definitely got me
focusing on artists.
But yeah, man, um, even then,if you didn't do the I mean you
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did do the album on scene youjust didn't publish it, didn't
put it out until when you gotback.
What you learned from being outthere, I'll still say that it
was, I would say, the greatestlearning opportunity so far in
my life.
All the exercises, all thedifferent opportunities that
I've had.
I still say the greatestlearning opportunities so far in
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my life.
Um, all the exercises, all thedifferent opportunities that
I've had.
I still say the mute tops it,um, it was.
At times it was a littleoverwhelming, but hey, that's
the nature of the beast.
You know I'm saying sometimesyou're gonna go through periods
of where it's like dang, I don'tknow exactly everything that I
need to do, but that's why yougot.
You know I'm saying, uh, yougot, uh, you got a team.
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You know what I'm saying.
You got a team and you gotpeople to bounce ideas off and
you have leadership to.
You know what I'm saying Makethe right, uh, mind frame.
But I would say, uh, the mainthings that I learned while I
was out there was like, uh,self-reflection, because you,
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you're like in the middle of theocean.
You know, I'm saying, andthere's times where you don't
have like anything to do, likeyou just have off time.
You feel, I'm saying, sometimesyou'll have that ability, or if
you're on liberty, that's whenI felt like I was really playing
the game like of life.
You know, I'm saying, when Iwas seeing different cultures,
I'm like hearing peoplecommunicate in different
languages and like doingdifferent things, stuff like
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that, like, and I think that'swhen I recognized like, oh, like
this world is much bigger thanwhat I know, right, and that was
one of the top lessons that Ilearned.
I was like dang, like it ain'tjust like america, you know, I
I'm saying Like there's, it'sglobal, it's international.
So that was the biggest lessonis recognizing, like, how
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important it is to tap into,like different cultures and
stuff like that, learn differentways of life, stuff like that.
So, all right.
So we had our talk earlier, yeah, a while back, and I'm going to
do this thing Every time I getsomebody that's in the military.
I'm going to do this.
I'm going to do this segment.
This segment is going to becalled Pros and Cons.
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All right, proficiency andconduct All right.
That's what pros and cons mean.
All right, pros and cons.
What is your pros and consbeing that we're going off the
marine corps standards, fivebeing the highest, you know what
I mean, and one being thelowest?
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Uh, what is your pros and conson going on a mute, pros and
cons on going on a mule?
And this is what I would saybefore I get my pro.
I just want to background realquick, yeah, before I just say a
number.
It's not based on how luxuriousor luxurious or like, how like
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glamorous it is, because it's adeployment.
You feel what I'm saying?
It's not going to be like, it'snot going to be pretty.
Keep it a buck, keep it a buck.
Yeah, keep it a buck.
I would really give it a three.
I would give it a three, four,three, five.
I give it a three, four, three,five.
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A little bit above.
Yeah, I know it's like dang,that's a little bit.
You know what I'm saying.
That's kind of that's likeprivate, that's PFC, that's PFC
and got their.
That's PFC.
And Lance Crumple, yo, yeah,that's 3-4-3-5.
But it's the reason why I rankit there is because it forced me
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, it challenged me, to become abetter version of myself, to
literally like figure out a way,because this mission set that I
was hoping was outside.
Anything that I've worked in itwas I've been working in like
air station units.
I've been doing air wing stufflike, um, working up in Cherry
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Point that's the home of thewing, you feel what I'm saying.
Working at Second Maul, I done,did that too, been in intel,
but like all aviation stuff.
So going to the MAGTAP whereyour job is to cover every
mission set, that ain't just theaviation stuff, that's the
ground side.
So how are the grunts going tobe affected?
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That's the ocean side, you knowwhat I'm saying.
And the Navy, they have theirMETOCs there too.
So leaning heavy on them andmaking sure that our
understanding was consistent, sothat way I could communicate
that same information out to allthe other commanders, blue side
or green side, same, you know,information out to all the other
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commanders, blue side or greenside.
So it was like I had never beenin that capacity to have to do
all those things, and so I wouldsay, because it forced me to be
in that position, um, that waslike a good takeaway, that was a
real plus, because now I gotthe confidence that shoot where.
Where do you want me to go?
What do you want me to do?
Shoot In the military, outsidethe military?
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This is me talking to God.
Now you feel what I'm saying.
It's like cause I really had to.
I really had to faith, man, Ireally had to like tap in and
like strengthen my relationshipwith God, because if I didn't,
if I didn't, man, it would havebeen so easy to get caught up.
But yeah, that was definitelywhy I give it a 3-5, 3-7.
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So 3-4, 3-5 just went to a 3-5,3-7?
.
Oh, I said 3-4, 3-5?
Then we gonna keep it.
Yeah, you said 3-4, 3-5.
I said, dang, you done, rampedit up some more.
Nah, nah, nah, we gon' keep itthere.
We gon' keep it there because,yeah, man, so what you uh, what?
Seven, what?
Six years in six years, in sixyears, in, it'll be 60 years.
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August 19, 19, yeah, august 19th.
Six years, man, what, uh,what's the future, bro?
You gonna, you gonna reenlist,you going to stay, you going to
get out what you going to do?
Because we had this talk, wedid talk about this, we talked
about this.
I want the people to know.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I would definitely say I'mgoing to stick to our conclusion
I'll say I'll revisit it okay,but uh, ideally I do want to do
music full-time.
I want to really develop thebrand and I want to.
I want to do things now.
I know that there's ways aboutgoing about it to where I don't
have to fully get out likethere's a reservist opportunity,
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there's um, things like that.
But I also recognize thatgovernment obligation does trump
whatever it is that you tryingto do.
And I'm not saying that's a badthing doing 20 is not a bad
thing at all but it's when youhave such a conflicting interest
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of things that you want to doand things that you have to do.
Whenever I see I'm not sayingthis is all staffing skills,
this is not all leadership, it'snot all officers but when they
stay in and they forcethemselves to go through you
know, I'm saying just so thatthey can get the pension they
end up leaving a trail of blood,not literally, but like
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figuratively, to where it's liketheir work relationships are
terrible, the home relationshipsare terrible and they've gotten
the check, but they turn aroundand look back and it's like
they haven't.
You know what I'm saying, andthat's not everybody's case,
that's not everybody's case, butI'm saying whenever you believe
that there's case.
That's not everybody's case,but I'm saying, whenever you
believe that there's somethingthat you like, want to do,
really want to do, but yousuppress it and you kind of like
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, just like, nah, I'll just dothe 20, there's a little bit of
a resentment that can be built,and I'm saying that's always the
case, for sure, but there's aresentment that can be built
that then gets pushed on theother people and I've seen that,
I've seen that it still happens.
It's not everyone, but I thinkthat that's something that I'd
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rather not, I'd rather not tryto see.
I don't know.
Yeah, man, um, I feel you man,like I told you before, bro, I
was, I was like that, the first,my first enlistment.
I'm like man, I'm getting out,yeah, I'm getting out, I don't
wanna do this.
Nope, I'm done.
And then I had to think aboutit, man, cause it was like that
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long run, like are we, are wedoing?
Are we playing a short game orare we playing a long game?
And that, and that's how I wastelling you earlier, well,
previous conversations weeks ago, like it's really just on what
you want to make of it, man,because when you look at it, yes
, you're going to have somesuperiors, you're going to have
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your team around you, you'regoing to have people that's your
, that's going to be there withyou, but at the end of the day,
it's you dog.
So it's whatever you want to do, you know what I'm saying and
it's what you want to make of it.
And that's why I was telling you, like S might be, I think S in
15, now 15 years, and he's stilldoing it.
He's still doing it.
He's still doing it, he makinga way.
You know what I'm saying.
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And he Navy, he on the ship allthe time, or he only go on the
ship when we need to deploy.
He's on the ship all the time.
You know what I'm saying.
So when I look at S and I'm like, man, if S still can do it,
like you can do it, you knowwhat I'm saying.
But if your heart ain't there,I mean like, yeah, like, do what
you got to do, man, to make thebest for you.
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But I'm telling you, man, if itwas up to me, bro, I'd still be
in right now.
I probably wouldn't put in mypapers because I'm already at 20
.
You know what I'm saying.
This year I'll be 21.
You know what I'm saying, butyou're looking to get that DD214
.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
But at the same time, like you,you stay in.
Like I probably would havestayed in until the girls got in
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college.
You know what I'm saying.
Okay, cause the girls, like youknow my, my oldest, she turned
13 Saturday, so you know what Imean.
And four more years she, youknow, four or five more years
she had been in college.
So I probably would have stayedin until at least my first one
got into college.
And if not, you know I'm saying, but I look at it now it's like
man, everything happened for areason.
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Like it was a reason for me toget forced out.
Like I didn't get in trouble.
You know I'm saying like it wasjust a hey, they had that order
.
Saying like, if you, you are e5and you don't pick up e6 by your
10-year mark, you got to getout.
I was already at 11 and I'mlike, if I'm a recruiting dude,
y'all can let me pass at 11.
Well, y'all can't.
Just let me, just let me.
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Yeah, realist, you know I'msaying let me reenlist and let's
see what, let's see how it goes.
So, yeah, bro, um, it's on you.
You know me, at the end of theday it's on you.
So I look at that and I justlike because, man, music is
everything to me and I know itis to you.
So, listen, I still look.
You see the mic in the back.
You see everything.
I got everything here.
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So when I need to come in andwork, this is my space to just
vent.
This is where I vent at.
I'm doing music, ps5 right here.
Everything I do is right here.
So it's like you have to lookat it like that.
I do is right here.
You have to look at it likethat.
But you been in for this long.
You are already ahead.
You know what I'm saying.
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You are already ahead.
So if you do get out, I knowyou'll be straight, because I
mean not only your job, yougoing to school too while you're
in.
I was Once I got on a ship Ididn't drop.
I guess I did, but ship Ididn't.
I didn't drop, I guess I did.
But, like once I'll say thesummer roll around, I should be
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good to continue my continue, mycollege classes.
I'm trying to go for marketing,marketing, management.
Yeah, I went to school forthat's what I went to school for
Marketing.
Yeah, yeah, that's what I wentto school for.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's, that's a business degree.
It's still business.
So you know what I'm saying Get, get it man.
Um, knock it out man.
Uh, now, when you go back toschool, I've been out for a
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while, since 2015.
What they, what they Are, theystill giving you $4,500 for each
fiscal year for school whileyou're in.
Or did they up that?
I'm sure they probably upped it.
I'm sure they upped it.
Either way, $4,500 is stillgood.
You know what I'm saying yeah,yeah, yeah, while you're in,
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this ain't even your GI Bill.
Yeah, and it's TA, this isstraight TA.
Yeah, it's all tuitionassistance.
You don't touch post 9-11, youdon't touch Montgomery, you
don't touch none of that.
So, yeah, I mean to be honest,I haven't had to pay down for
classes.
I encourage all of my juniors,I encourage everybody that I
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talk, to do tuition assistance.
Go try and even take someclasses, even if you're not.
Really.
Go try and even take someclasses, even if you're not
really fully getting a degree.
Just take some classes, learnsome because it's free.
So, yeah, I don't know theexact number, though I don't
know the exact number, I lovefree.
If it's free, give it to me,unless it's something else.
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But hey, when it comes toschool and uniforms or whatever,
if it's free, give it to me.
Give it to me, dog, I need it.
You know what I mean?
They're still doing thatallowance and stuff, the
allowance for everything, forthe uniforms and stuff.
Yeah, that's what I'm sayingand that's the part that I miss
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too.
Man, I hate moving.
I think that's probably one ofthe biggest things I hate not
having no more man.
Tmo.
I need TMO, bro, when I move, Ineed it.
I'm not touching nothing.
They ain't wrapping up.
It's DMO, yeah, dmo.
It's TMO's DMO, yeah, dmo.
Dmo to DMO yeah, hey, I ain'ttouching nothing.
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Go ahead, wrap it up.
That's in the box, okay, let mejust check it off.
You know what I'm saying.
I ain't got to touch nothing,dog, you can't.
That's one thing I miss DMOAnytime I move.
They got my joint, but you dogot to check.
But you do gotta check, you dogotta check and make sure that
they put the same in there.
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Sometimes, right, and it'sstill like a great service,
because I'd rather have somebodyelse do it for me than for me
to pack everything up myself.
But then, like sometimes, bro,I've heard the horror stories
where people just throwing boxesall over the place, something
breaking by the time they getback to your spot.
So, like you said, like it's agood service, but just make sure
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you check, just make sure youcheck, make sure you do the due
diligence, bro, because yeah,they stole my dang old
daughter's uh, piggy bank bro Ihad.
She had like a hundred dollarsand two dollar bills, so she had
52 bills in her piggy bank.
Bro, they stole that joint.
You know what I'm saying?
Like that for a hundred, thatis wild, bro.
It was a custom piggy bank.
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It had her name on it andeverything.
I'm like, yeah, y'all gonnasteal that, I'm gonna steal a
piggy bank.
A piggy bank, bro, a piggy bank, where was this at?
Was this in Pendleton or wasthis in Oakland?
Yeah, pendleton, dog, I ain'tnever make it dog.
It was Pendleton, it wasPendleton.
It was Pendleton Because here'sthe thing From Jersey to Cali,
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they ain't mess with it, fromCali back to DC.
That's when stuff startedgetting all over the place.
Yeah, okay, stuff got a littleshaky, man.
But, um, man, what's next?
Yeah, man, so next step, and Iguess the next step is currently
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happening right now is buildingthat foundation, um, getting
back outside, doing, I guess,the the what they say, chop wood
, carry water.
You know what I'm saying.
Doing the things that, like atthe time they may not you know
what I'm saying seem like asmuch, but the deposits that,
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like, build interest over time.
You know what I'm saying, buildvalue over time.
So that's why I was trying to goto different studios, network
reconnect.
That's why, as soon as I cameback, or even a little bit while
I was in the port, I tried toreach out and stuff like that,
because people be saying theyreach out, they don't reach out
for real, they don't be reachingout.
Oh, bro, I'm going to get withyou.
I'm going to get with you onthe intro, I'm going to fuck
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with you.
I'm going to fuck with you.
But, yeah, like that, um, sobuilding relationships,
reconnecting and stuff like that, getting in the studio and then
, um, getting a better structureon the business, uh, currently
talking to a few legalprofessionals and stuff like
that, on how I can best setmyself up so that way I can
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leverage my ip, intellectualproperty right, all the
trademark and copyright.
It's expensive now.
It's expensive now, but thenyou take into consideration how
that can help you on the backend come time for taxes and
stuff like that and helping you.
So getting that locked down,getting social media locked down
, and then kind of having a planand a strategy that's, I would
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say, say could take me out threemonths.
I want a 90-day kind of like aI guess, content pool that I can
pull from and I can scheduleout so that way, even once I do
leave Atlanta because I'm notgoing to be here too much longer
I got some stuff I got to doback in freaking Lejeune, so you
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ain't taking 30 days yet.
So I'm on it right now.
But at the same time, once weleft, I kind of split it up
because we had holiday leave sothey let everybody leave and
stuff like that.
Um, and now I'm on like kind oflike the post post deployment
leave.
I I already checked out of themeal and everything like that.
So I'm done there.
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But even though I'm on leave, Ialways like to use this
opportunity to see what, what,what can I do to build you know
what I'm saying the brand?
What can I do to build business?
Because it's not, it don't feellike a job to me, bro.
It don't feel like, oh, like ajob to me, bro.
It don't feel like, oh, I haveto use my leave and I have to go
back to work.
No, like it's like this is whatI want to do.
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You know what I'm saying?
Um, so now, yeah, like I said,having that, I guess, pool of
content that I can pull from foran extended period of time, so
that way, once I am over back inleslie and stuff like that,
it's still running, it's stillgoing.
So, yeah, that's the main thingGetting the structure right,
building the foundation.
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So that way you have like, a,not a consistency, but like,
what's the word?
Like, not motion, but like youknow what I mean.
Like not motion, but like youknow what I mean.
Like, um, it's like when youhave things lined up.
You know what I'm saying.
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Um, it could be like yourschedule or momentum, like some
momentum built up.
Yeah, yeah, I mean you, yeah,you definitely.
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I mean the fact that you live inGeorgia, you from Georgia, like
you already got a plus upbecause you can get down to the
A quickly.
You know what I'm saying.
Like you know and be in allbecause you can get down to the
eight quickly.
You know what I'm saying.
Like you know, and be in allthe studios that you need to be
in and be around those people.
It's just the only thing, man,that bothers me with that is
that a lot of times, man, youknow your music is good, you
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know what I'm saying and youknow that you just need to get
put in with the right artist.
But a lot of times, man, they,they still be kind of like
gatekeeping and I don't beunderstanding that.
Like, bro, like it's enoughfood out here for everybody.
I need it out.
Like you know what I'm sayingand that's the only thing.
And that's why, when I be doinga lot of these events and stuff
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, man, I kind of like do thepros and cons on them, like what
I, what I get from it.
You know what I mean.
I mean people.
I mean that's my goal.
Like, every time I go in thereI try to speak to everybody,
cause for some reason peoplealways say, like I got this
demeanor of me, that like whatI'm saying, like I'm one of the
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coolest ones, and we chop it upall day, literally the whole
section.
Yeah, so like, and we wasn'teven on the team together.
We wasn't even on the same team.
Yeah, we wasn't even on thesame team.
So it's like I try to my goalwhen I go in there and I try to
build relationships.
Build relationships, like, talkto these people, build rapport,
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like you know what I mean, thisis what gets you to the next
step, like you know what I'msaying, because they, they see
that you passionate.
If you just sitting theretrying to just like, oh, just
listen to this, just listen tothis, just listen to this, and
you ain't really just trying toget a quick dollar man, that's
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to me I get it.
If people hurting, if you gotto do that, cool.
But like when we in thoseestablishments like, bro, we was
in OutKast, they ain't going instudios, they ain't going in
studios, bro.
So that was, to me, was just aplus.
It's a plus and what I loveabout Alana, it don't look like
a studio when you pull up to it.
Yeah, so you go through thatdoor, no key.
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You're like, oh, they got awhole stage in one room, like
the joint is dope man.
So it's like for everybody outthere that's trying to be a
producer, trying to be asongwriter, trying to be an
artist, build relationships, man, but hey, also listen, because
sometimes people be trying tofinesse you and if you one of
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them, people like yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, boy, you
gonna get you, you gonna godown, yeah, you gonna get got.
You know what I'm saying.
So just make sure y'all payattention to that.
Yeah, before we get out of here, bro, we got gym class, gym
class G-E-M, not G-Y-M.
Yeah, what is some gyms or agym that you can leave to the
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people, man, to carry on intheir toolbox?
One thing that I always, thathas always stuck with me, was do
something that no one has toask you to do, if that makes
sense, if you're going to chasea purpose, if you're going to
(52:15):
chase something that you want todo full time, like, let's say,
I may not know it for everyoneelse, but for me it's music.
No one has to ask me to make.
No one has to ask me to makemusic, no one has to ask me to
make beats, stuff like that.
So when I'm thinking about,okay, my time in the Marine
Corps is looking slim, like it's, look like I'm on the outside,
(52:38):
I'm about to be on the outsidesoon.
So I'm asking myself all thesequestions and I'm also playing
the mental game, like what doesmy day look like?
Okay, I said I want to do music, but how do I structure that?
And it all stems back to purpose.
It all stems back to whatyou're willing to be persistent
in throughout all the struggles,throughout everything.
But if you can answer that foryourself and if you can hone in
(53:01):
on that and really organize yourthoughts about that thing, you
could go really far.
You could go really far.
So I'll definitely say thatthat's my, that's my piece of
advice.
So, pretty much, do the rightthing when nobody's watching.
Yeah, do the right thing withnobody watching and then do what
(53:22):
you like, really love to do,what you genuinely love to do,
like something that's just lit,because something that's lit may
not be lit five, ten years downthe road, that part.
But if you do something thatyou love to do, you may be the,
the change, or you may be likethe turning point, or you may be
that piece of innovation thattakes, whatever it is, even
(53:45):
further.
You feel what I'm saying.
So don't just like, don't,don't chase a trend.
Find out what your purpose is,find out what it is that you
love to do and become organizedin that and then you'll you'll
see progress.
Facts, that's big facts, man.
Jd bro, hey man, it's alwaysgood man, it's always love man.
But look, jd bro, hey man, it'salways good man, it's always
(54:06):
love man.
I appreciate you, man, alwaysFor coming on the pod, man, and
always make sure y'all followit's at JDT right Music.
Yes, sir, JDT Music 1.
Yeah, at JDT Music 1.
Make sure y'all go look up hismusic.
D music one.
(54:28):
Um, make sure y'all go go lookup his music.
Uh, dope producer, everything,man, you know.
I mean, just go check it out,uh, give it a listen and, hey,
you might work with him one day.
Who knows?
You know what I'm saying.
This is why I do what I do withthese podcasts, bro, because I
don't want to just grabcelebrities.
You know I'm, I want to grabpeople that's on the come up,
you know what I'm saying so Ican show the people, like, look,
(54:48):
bro was on the pod before y'alleven took off, before y'all
even knew, before y'all evenknew who he really was.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, bro, man, I appreciateyou man, like always, man, we
gone oh.
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