Ferris Bueller's Day Off | S2E5 - Retromade

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(00:02):
Ferris, you're sick and don't gopushing it and making yourself worse.
Uh, maybe you're rightDad and no one, right.
Val,
how'd you get to be so sweet?
They bought it.
Well, why should he get to skipschool when everybody else has to go?
I'm taking the day off now,get dressed and come on over.

(00:24):
Paris, my father loves his carmore in life itself, man, with
priorities so far to whack.
Doesn't deserve such a fine automobile.
What are we gonna do?
The question isn't,what are we going to do?
The question is, whataren't we going to do?
He does whatever he wants, you know,as long as I've known him, everything

(00:46):
works for him Whenever he wants.
He's very cool and he never gets nailed.
Life moves pretty fast.
If you don't stop and look aroundonce in a while you could miss him.
You realize if we played by therules right now, we'd be in gym.

(01:08):
What is so dangerous about acharacter like Ferris Bueller
is he gives good kids bad ideas.
Ferris Bueller, do you know him?
Yeah.
He is getting me outta summer school.
They think he's a righteous dude.
Hi, the name from thesausage king of Chicago.
That's me.
I can see him denying popular beliefsetting off in some impossible mission.

(01:32):
I did not achieve this position inlife by having some snot nose punk.
Leave my cheese out in the wind.
You wanna get married?
Central parking fall.
I mean, if I wasn't a fool.
Sure.
Today he looks back on theruin his life's become.
He's gonna remember Edward Rooney.

(01:54):
Hey Dougie.
It's dead.
Kevin, you killed the car.
My best friend has flipped out.
I got you.
Paris.
I think this calls for something bold.
I finally got you something wet.
Oh, he's such a sweet.
Love you, pal.
Something wild.

(02:49):
Ferris Bueller's Day off oneman struggle to take it easy.

Katie (03:06):
Hello.
Hello, I'm Katie and welcome toRetro Made Your Pop Culture Rewind.
Today we're gonna go back to 1986to celebrate Ferris Bueller's
Day off the ultimate teen fantasyof skipping school in style.
So, buckle up because as Ferrissays, life moves pretty fast.
If you don't stop and look aroundonce in a while, you could miss it.

(03:28):
Joining me today are returningguests, Kevin and Eric from Six
Degrees of Schwartzen Agro podcastbreaking down all sorts of action
movies once seen at a time.
So you guys what are you working on?
What's new with the six degrees?

Kevin And Eric (03:44):
Hi, Katie.
It's great to be back, first ofall, and to talk about a movie
that I really love from childhood.
Yeah.
From childhood.
Yeah, for sure.
And it, and a change of pace fromwhat we're, what we're usually doing,
what we're, what we usually are doing.
Yeah, exactly.
There's far less murder in thismovie than what we're used to.
We've been doing a little, we wereon a Van Damm kick recently on the
podcast talking

Katie (04:03):
I see that.
Love it.

yeah, so those episodes are rolling out now.
We hope to have you on inthe very near future to talk
another like lost eighties Yeah.
Gem a little karate movie.
Yeah.
Not, not even a karate movie.
I don't know what it is.
, But we'll

Katie (04:21):
I do.

in Little Tokyo uh, Dolf Lundgren and Brandon Lee

Katie (04:26):
I

Very strange.

Katie (04:27):
fucking cannot wait because I'm a, I, I don't know if you guys are
aware, I'm a huge do Lundgren fan, so,
It'll be, and he looks mightygood in this movie, so, yeah.

it was peak golf longer, and I was noticing
like he still had the rocky

Katie (04:44):
Mm-hmm.

right.
Four physique,

Katie (04:45):
Mm-hmm.

little bit more like.
Bad
boyishness

Katie (04:48):
Mm-hmm.

some stubble or whatever.
Yeah.
So this is gonna be exciting.
We might, we might watch itafter we are finished here.
Yeah.
He, he's not trapped inany iron curtain anymore.
Yes, So we are looking forward to that.
But yeah, we go through thesereally cheesy like eighties, nineties
movies with a fine tooth comb.
Mm-hmm.
like, 'cause once you examinethem, like even to the slightest
degree, they just all fall
apart.

Katie (05:09):
Mm-hmm.
This is true

the fun though.
So that's fun.
Yeah.
We, we, we usually are enjoyingsome cocktails while we do it, not.
Cheers.
Cheers.
Yeah.
So
by the end

Katie (05:18):
in your,

we're all pretty sloppy, so.
Mm-hmm.

Katie (05:21):
in your Honor.
I have wine for today.
, A lot of times I record in themornings and while I'm not opposed
to today drinking morning drinkingthis, this feels more suitable.
So, yeah.

a happy hour at least.
It just depends, like isit, is it as bloody Mary?
Is it a mimosa?
you

Katie (05:38):
Right.

work these things, you can navigate it.
And then we're trying to do a littlesocial media as well, which Eric is
running if you wanna plug some of theYeah, I mean uh, Instagram and Facebook.
I've been kind of bad about it.
Life's been a bit, uh,complicated recently.
But we do post there, we do updateson Facebook like trivia about each
episode when each one is coming out.
We do most of our notificationsthere about episodes.

(05:59):
And, uh, uh, six degrees of switching.
It's six DOS, right?
Yeah.
At six Number Dos DOS podcast, I think.
Right?
Yes, that's right.
That's six DOS podcast.
Yeah.
And that's on Facebook and on Instagram.
But those are our two main outletsthat we use for social media.
But please, if you love eighties andnineties stuff, yeah, check us out.
Um, If you love Katie, check usout 'cause she'll be on soon.

(06:21):
Yeah, very soon.

Katie (06:21):
Yeah, I, I highly recommend, I, I love you guys' show.
I listen to every episode.
I'm enjoying theLionheart coverage so far.
I do have a bit of show newsbefore we get into the time capsule.
If you like revisiting works ofspecific directors, AKA, my season
two is all about John Hughes,although he doesn't always direct

(06:43):
them, but you get the idea listeners.
But some exciting newsthis season of John Hughes.
We are joining the DirectorsChair network just this season,
cause this is about a director.
So you absolutely must check it out.
Other shows on this networkare the Edwick podcast.
There's a Brian DePalma podcast,Michael Mann, and now John Hughes.

(07:05):
So just search and follow thedirector's chair network on your app,

. Kevin And Eric (07:11):
Eric and I, I think are gonna appear on
some Michael Mann coverage.
Yes.
With Ryan?
With
Ryan,

Katie (07:16):
Awesome.

Michael Mann.
So thrilled to
do it.
Yeah.

Katie (07:20):
Mm-hmm.
Indeed.
Okay.
You guys, this season, if you are notaware it's a little bit different.
We're gonna open the timecapsule with a little bit of a
different spin from June of 1986
okay, can you guys see the wheel?
Retro made wheel?
Okay, I'm gonna spin on your behalf 'causeI'm not that technologically advanced

(07:46):
to see which category weget from 1986 VHS Vault.
All right, you guys.

All right.
This could go very well or very
badly.

Katie (07:56):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So this is.
I will, I will give you clues, butI usually give you an opportunity to
guess before I start giving you hints.
The top five VHS rentals forthe year 1986, what were people
going to Blockbuster for?

Okay.
He used to work at a Blockbuster,

Katie (08:19):
Oh,

was
a, in the nineties.
Yeah, that's true.
But I've, you shouldhave some inside that.
I'm definitely gonna putback to the future on there.
Yeah.
Because I think the 86 movieswouldn't have been on tape yet.
about about 80, probably 85 an hour.
Yeah.
Yeah.
85 back.
The future's Great.
I'll say the Terminator.
Yep.
I'm gonna go with that one.
Might still be hanging around.

Katie (08:37):
well, back to the future is correct.
That's the number two.

that was number two.
What would be biggerthan Back to the future?
In 86?
Yeah.

Katie (08:45):
It's not Terminator.
Terminator's not in the top five.
Mm-hmm.

is a
bummer.

Katie (08:50):
And then you guys let me know whenever you're ready
for some clues if you give up.

I'll take another five seconds things might hold.
I'm looking at my wa How about theKarate Kid's out on my wall back here?

Katie (09:02):
No, but there is, I believe your, something is
related to something on your wall.

Oh yeah.
Return of the Jedi, of
course.

Katie (09:11):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Or New Hope, temple of
Doom.

Katie (09:15):
Temple of Doom, Indiana Jones, and the Temple of Doom.
Okay.
So that was actually,

I'll go gremlins

Katie (09:24):
no, but that's a great guess.
So Goonies?
Yes.
So you guys have the top three so far.

Alright.

Katie (09:30):
is one.
Back to the futurist.
Two.

Yeah.

Katie (09:33):
Yeah.
Okay, so you got the top three.
Number four.
In this 1985 film, a sociallyAwkward Teenager, a computer,
and a bolt of lightning combinedto create the perfect woman
weird science.

had no idea.
John Hug John on the charts right?

Katie (09:52):
I adore weird science and I cannot wait to cover it on this season.
Alright, the number five VHS rental,which 1985 action sequel saw a lone
warrior returning to the wastelandonly to find himself caught.

Warrior Thunder?
No, Thunderdome.

Katie (10:12):
Thunderdome ma.
Mad Max beyond Thunderdome?
Mm-hmm.

I thought it was gonna be Rocky four when he said Lone
Warrior One of the various Rambosweirdly beyond Thunderdome was the
least popular of the first three films.
I didn't love it, but yeah, IRoad Warriors a Road Top Classic
four or five action movies ever.
Yeah.

Katie (10:31):
All right, let's spin again guys.
See what other categories we can.

bad.
We got

Katie (10:36):
You did pretty

clues.

Katie (10:37):
with no clues and then with clues, you got them all right away.
Okay.
We have the category.
Ken, Kevin, and Eric come out to play.

Okay.

Katie (10:50):
So this is obviously like toys, electronics games and stuff like that.
Right.

All right.
Okay.

Katie (10:57):
Released in 1986.
This handheld electronic game becamea sensation with players trying to
match colored bubbles and lines.
What was the name of this game?

electronic games.
Colored bubbles and
lines.

Katie (11:11):
only vaguely recall this

Yeah.
I don't, I don't remember.
I don't, I don't know.
What do you got?

Katie (11:18):
Simon Electronic Memory Game.

Oh yeah.
Well, Simon, remember, I rememberjust the commercials for it.
I mean, Simon, what, whatversion of Simon had a handheld.
Was that like the slap in the thing?
Yeah, that was thememorization one, right?
I don't know.
That was with the four, red,yellow, green, and blue buttons.
I don't know.

Katie (11:35):
Yeah, I think it did.

colors

Katie (11:37):
There was a handheld version of it.

oh,

Katie (11:39):
I think.
At any rate, we'll go, we'll spina new one commercial countdown,

Okay.
Okay.
Where's the beef?
That's all

Katie (11:49):
Mm-hmm.
Actually that is one of them.
Where's the beef?
The Wendy's, the Wendy's campaign.

was that even a commercial for?
Was that,

Katie (11:59):
Wendy's.

or Burger King?
Wendy's or something?
Wendy's.
Okay, okay, okay.

Katie (12:02):
Catchy jingle asking.
Yep.

I think.

Katie (12:05):
Do you remember this, this commercial featured a talking baby who
pushed a diaper product using the slogan?
I'm a big, I'm a big kid now.

Oh, pullups,

Katie (12:16):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Pullups.

or Huggies?
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't have pullups.

Katie (12:23):
One more category

All right.

Katie (12:25):
Retro runway is the category.

Okay.

Katie (12:32):
Oh, there's so many.
Okay.
This bulky, often oversized jacketwith an elastic waistband and zippered
pockets was a must have for bothathletes and fashion forward teens.
What was the name of this iconic garment?

So it's gonna not, not members only.

Katie (12:55):
It is members only.

isn't memo.
Only Jackie members only.
I didn't think about it with athletes.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Members only was where I went tofirst, but I was like Athletes.
Right on

Katie (13:04):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.

well
done.
Those are coming back, I think.
Yeah, they are.
I've been seeing 'em around.
I haven't
seen it.

Katie (13:10):
Well, everything from, yeah, I mean things, it's like a 30 year cycle usually.
Right.
30
speaking of which I hear.

like everyone's wanting their kid to be into the
toys they

Katie (13:20):
Mm-hmm.

Well I was, I was, in San Francisco last week and everybody
had those long khaki trench coats.
Okay.
I guess it's, it's back inSan Francisco right now.
Paris Bueller wore a longcaffeine trench coat.

Katie (13:32):
Those have kind of always been, it's a, that seems
like a classic look, right?

Oh, okay.
Maybe

Katie (13:38):
Like the

walk in

Katie (13:39):
Burberry, like the, you know, the Burberry one.
Very high.
I, I was,

Yeah.

Katie (13:44):
you know.

for sure.
Yeah,

Katie (13:46):
Okay.
All of these, it's a lot of, thisis very much like coming back.
A hair accessory oftenassociated with big volume.
These stretchy bands werea way to keep your ponytail
high and your style on point.
What were they called?

scrunchies.

Katie (14:00):
Mm-hmm.
Scrunchies.
Okay.
It wasn't just about jeans, but,

so we're a little bit,
yeah,

Katie (14:09):
oh, that's helpful.
That's helpful.

Oh yeah.

Katie (14:13):
Actually, that's one of 'em.
Footwear trend Jellies.
This one also , made acomeback and I hate it.
Did then, do now high wasted pants comein all forms from denim to pleats and
had a serious leg lengthening effect.
What were they called?

Jean Claude Van Damm was a
big fan.

Katie (14:34):
Yeah,

I always just call 'em mom jeans, but I mean,

Katie (14:38):
that's literally what it is.

mom jeans

Katie (14:41):
mom
jeans.

Heck yeah.

Katie (14:44):
Mom jeans.

Nailed it.
Nice.
Nice.
I

Katie (14:48):
I remember the

we're doing The best in right now is 86
Fashion, women's Fashion 86.

Katie (14:54):
indeed.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's hilarious.
I remember an SNL skit about mom jeans.

With, uh, Amy
Poer and,

Katie (15:01):
Yeah.

classics.
and Tina Fey.
Yeah.
And with your choice of anklelength, Capri length, or shorts,
you'll find the perfect gene foreven the least active of moms.
Put on your mom, Jean.
So this mother's day, don'tgive mom that bottle of Perfu.
Give her something that says, I'mnot a woman anymore, I'm a mom.

Katie (15:26):
Okay.
We maybe have time for one more boombox.
Bangers.
This, this will be a, a fun way to end

Okay.

Katie (15:32):
Let's see here.
Now these are the top fivebillboards for the whole year.
For the whole year, yep.

On 86.

Katie (15:45):
guesses?
I don't know.
I don't know, man.
I don't think I wouldpull these out of the air.

That's gonna be tough.
Um, Like we're talkingabout singles or albums.

Katie (15:54):
The song,
the.

Oh, did mic Is Michael Jackson on the list?

Katie (16:01):
No,
it's Lionel Richie.
It's Lionel Richie.

Endless Love.
Is that a, what
was

Katie (16:07):
It's from the the movie White Knight, which won an Academy
Award for best original song.

Wow.
Okay.
I

Katie (16:16):
Lionel Richie.

I don't know

Katie (16:19):
I've, I've never been a Lionel Richie fan.
So this, yeah.
Say you say me.

I've heard of it.
I don't, I couldn't tellyou how sounds, yeah.
I couldn't, I couldn't sing
it.

Katie (16:28):
This next one, there's several from movies.

Okay.
Tell me the movie and wemight be able Power of Love.

Katie (16:36):
The movie is Top Gun.

Oh, so danger zone?
No, take my breath
away.

Katie (16:41):
Take My Breath Away.
Yep.

Okay.
Yeah.
Alright.

Katie (16:44):
And who's it by?
Do you, do you know?

Berlin

Katie (16:47):
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.

name?
Uh, Georgio Moroder 80 eighties.
Music is not my wheelhouse becauseI don't like eighties music.
I think that one probablywon an Oscar too.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's what she was saying.
A lot of mo Oh,
oh no.
That

Katie (16:58):
mm-hmm.

music.
Yeah.

Katie (17:00):
Yeah.
This is the number three song for the yearis a British duo and it's their debut.
Single,

Wham.
it the, the group is Wham.

Katie (17:10):
no.
Um, but the, the lyrics featured themlike navigating the streets of London.
It was the title songthat made them famous.
What's the name of the song?
Ah, shit.
Who sings it?

Is it New Order or Pet
Shop?

Katie (17:28):
I'm gonna look.

Okay.
Or not Duran.
Duran.
Hungry.
Like the Wolf.

Katie (17:34):
It's Pet Shop Boys.
It's Pet Shop Boys.
I had to double check

I don't Oh, west
End Girls.

Katie (17:38):
West End Girls.
Yep.

Yeah.
Yeah.
Great song.
Again, don't know any of that music'cause I don't like eighties music.
What did your parents make you listento , They liked some eighties music,
but they didn't like, it was morestill , my father was still listening
to seventies and sixties oldies.
Yeah.
I grew up on oldies andthen a little B 98.5.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I never liked all the heavy synthand soft lyrics of eighties music.

(18:03):
It just, I kind of dig, it kind of putme to sleep more than anything else.

Katie (18:06):
There were a lot of different genres though, I
feel like in the eighties, but.
Like you didn't like anyhair bands either, Eric?

yeah, I, mean there, there are, there are some isolated gems
here and there, and

Katie (18:17):
Mm-hmm.

as you get to the late eighties and we start coming
out of the, of the synth pop phase.
But

Katie (18:23):
yeah,

really got into Duran Duran or cars or Yes.
Or.
Any of the, any of the major popgroups, and it was kind of a dead
at decade for rock, quite frankly.
Your loss, man.
Yeah.
Not, not my loss.
I'm happy from the yacht rock.
No, I'm not in the yacht rock, man.

Katie (18:40):
Number four is very catchy.
If you don't know thissong, Eric, I'd be shocked

Okay.

Katie (18:46):
it.
It's inspired by the sixties popculture featuring , unique hand gestures
recorded by an all female American band.
It was one of their,

a very, is a very politically incorrect now

Katie (18:59):
it probably.

by the Bengals.

Katie (19:02):
Yes,

Watch like an Egyptian.
Oh,

Katie (19:04):
it is.

that song's sort it's been canceled a little bit.
Yeah.
I don't think it's, it's appropriateanymore by our standards, I
guess.

Katie (19:10):
It is Walk like an Egyptian and then,

one I knew you

Katie (19:14):
yeah.

I mean, you can't not see, know
that song

Katie (19:17):
Mm-hmm.

you heard that

Katie (19:18):
Exactly.

I hadn't heard the song Africa by Toto until the year 2004.
Yeah.

Katie (19:25):
It's so good.
I like that one.

Big yacht rockers, toto.
Yeah, I know.

Katie (19:32):
I'd also be shocked if you didn't know the number five song known for its
minimalistic funk vibe, seductive lyrics.
It is a Prince song.
It was also in a very famous movie.

Purple rain.

Katie (19:45):
It was from the parade album.
That doesn't tell me anything but

Okay.

Katie (19:50):
Minimalistic funk vibe.

kiss?
No, uh, no

Katie (19:57):
Yep.
Kiss.

It was just called
Kiss.

Katie (20:00):
It was just called KISS and it was famous.
It was in Pretty Woman, so, yeah.

Oh, okay.
that, I guess that tracks, I mean, Ifeel like most of the eighties Cannon
was written and then used in eightiesmovies, or it was either written for a
movie or it was so good that it got into a
movie.
It got into a movie.

Katie (20:16):
Mm-hmm.

the era

Katie (20:18):
Mm-hmm.
Alright.
You guys did pretty good?

I'm proud.
Yeah, we could do it.
Yeah, I'll take it.
I'll take it.
Given that, , I wasfive and you were four?
I was four.
If it was in the summer.
I turned five later in the year.
Yeah,

Katie (20:32):
Same?
Yeah, I'm an 81 baby, , but Ihad older siblings, so, you know.

Yeah.
Oldest for me as

Katie (20:39):
Mm-hmm.
Alright.
How did you guys discoverJohn Hughes films?
Were you, are you fans?
I should ask maybe, first of all.

Yeah, I I love that.
I mean, I'm sure I discovered it oncable television because I wasn't going
to see these types of movies in thetheater that was like a little too young.
Ferris Bueller I love and Breakfast Club.
I love, we were talking a littlebit before he started like from his
teen

Katie (21:04):
Mm-hmm.

but then I discovered later that he wrote all these, like
also adult, more adult movies likeplane trains and Automobiles is amazing.

Katie (21:12):
Mm-hmm.

I really liked Home Alone.
That was like, people call that,like his sellout movie or whatever.
I saw that many timesin theaters as a kid.
National Lampoon's Christmas vacation.
Amazing.
So yeah, I'm a fan.
A lot of which I didn't know waseven him until I started learning
more about movies than realizingthat this one guy was responsible
for all these eighties classics.
Yeah, obviously the stuff that he'swritten, I'm a, a big fan of a lot of

(21:36):
that, but in terms of what he's knownfor, I was never really into most of
those teeny teen teeny bopper movies.
I never liked the Breakfast Club.
I never liked Pretty andPink or any of those.
It never really chime of withme of No, I didn't get it.
I didn't understand why.
science.
Anybody would like to, Idid love weird science.
There you go.
And I loved Ferris
Bubert Day

Katie (21:53):
Mm-hmm.

that was about all of his sort of teen era movies that I
enjoyed were only those two, those werenot the big, like the teen angst movies.
Right.
Those were like the,
yeah.
Okay.

Katie (22:01):
The more fun

I was even when I was, six years old, I hated teen
angst, and that hasn't changed.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This guy, he won't get into Cobra Kai nomatter how much we try to get him to Yeah.
To
check it

Katie (22:11):
I,
I kind of refuse to, I have nointerest in Cobra Kai, so I'm,
I'm teen Eric on, on this one.

Excellent.
Finally, someone's on my side.
As far as John Hughes, though ingeneral as a filmmaker, I don't
really have any memories of lifewhere I didn't know who he was.

Katie (22:27):
Mm.

mean, I, you know, I was coming up, in an era that he kind of
owned an entire genre of cinema and itwas hard not to know about his movies.
And so, we were talking about, FerrisBueller a little bit beforehand.
And , I don't have any memoriesof my life where I didn't know
about Ferris Bueller's Day off.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, it was, I watchedthat movie so many times.

(22:48):
I re-watched it just to refresh myselfand I didn't need to, because when I
re-watched it, I was like, I rememberevery single frame of this movie.
I've seen it so many times.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I feel like it sort of spawnedlike, , saved by the Bell, which is
another , childhood favorite of mine.
It was like, not have existedif it weren't Ferris Bueller.
Yeah.
It's like so much of just like, let'stake this premise of this kid who talks to

(23:09):
the camera and can get away with anythingand build a whole show around that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I feel like there was aFierce Bueller TV show
as well.
There was,

Katie (23:15):
Mm-hmm.

I didn't watch that.
There was

Katie (23:17):
I didn't either.

the uh, the one that was more successful of that, which
was directly inspired by FerrisBueller was Parker Lewis Can't Lose.
Right.
And that was, that actually lastedone or two seasons where I think the
Ferris Bueller show very quickly.
Mm.

, Katie (23:34):
a lot of these movies got a TV show, like Weird Science had one, Mr.
Mom had one.
Like none of them even dirty dancing,
like they just didn't,

know.

Katie (23:43):
not translate.

show, they would turn it into a Saturday morning
cartoon,

Katie (23:46):
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
Like the Ghostbuster cartoon Ghostbusterback to the future of the cartoon.
I did not know that was a cartoon.
They tried it.
Wow.
Yeah.
Weird science.
The TV show I watched all the time.
Oh yeah.
That was like on late night, , on

Katie (24:00):
I've never seen it.

into that.
Yeah.

Katie (24:02):
my God.

it's about what you would expect.
Just constant antics, , hot chick causingtrouble, you know, as they love to do.

Katie (24:10):
As they love to do.
Oh, hilarious.
Oh my God.
Well, without further ado, let'sget into Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

All right.

Katie (24:26):
It was released June 11th, 1986.
It's PG 13, 7.8
IMDB, which is the same asanother John Hughes movie.
Any guesses?
And it's a teen one.

Uh, The Breakfast Club.
Uh,

Katie (24:43):
Mm-hmm.

okay.
It was

Katie (24:44):
Yep.
Yeah, that, those are both, that's very,
I believe so.
I'll have to double checkwhat Home Alone is, but 7.8
is really high.
Um, for this,

he

Katie (24:55):
for this kind of a mo, you know, for a movie like this, john Hughes
did write and direct this one and I,I would be shocked if anybody needed a
reminder, but in case it's been a whilesince anybody listening or watching
hasn't seen Ferris Bueller in a while.
We have Ferris Bueller and he's themaster of skipping school, and his most
elaborate scheme yet takes him his bestfriend, Cameron and girlfriend Sloan

(25:20):
on a whirlwind day through Chicago fromsinging in a parade to outrunning his
vengeful principle, Ferris turns playinghooky into an art form, reminding us all
to embrace life before it passes us by.
I love how these always portrayadults as being like so sad, like
sad sack adults have no life.

Well, it's always the aspirational, it's the aspirational
teen life, which I think as kids ofthe eighties, like we could all Yeah.
Watch that back.
Yeah.
When I am, in high school,it's gonna be so great.
We're gonna make the principal lookstupid and all that type of stuff.
And I do love, and maybe we'reputting, get, getting ahead of
ourselves, but, I love that theprincipal is actually a threat to them.

(26:03):
Like they're actuallyterrified of the principal.
And then you watch it as anadult and you're like, that's
hilarious that they were actuallythreatened by this individual.

Katie (26:12):
Principles are another bad, like again, adults, but specifically I guess
adults in a authority position in a lotof these movies are just set up to be
so bad and I didn't necessarily relateto Ed Rooney in this, but a lot of times
when I rewatch these movies as an adult,I relate more to the adults and I'm like,

yeah.
Yeah.

Katie (26:33):
little shithead.

him before, I'm like, if you know, if I was Principal
Rooney, I wouldn't like Ferris Bueller
either.

Katie (26:38):
Mm-hmm.

little jerk.
That's right.
Get away with everything.
I watched et recently and I foundmyself like identifying with the mom.
It's like, these kids, these kidsare putting this lady through.
Hell

Katie (26:47):
Mm-hmm.

yeah.

Katie (26:50):
We have Matt, obviously Matthew Broderick and John Hughes
had said he had Matthew in mind whenhe wrote this thinking that he was
the only one who had this particularclever, charming nature to him.
And he really does.
I, 'cause I, you know, I've kindof gone back and forth throughout
the years thinking Ferris isa dick and then rewatching it.
Last night I was like, you know,he's just a regular teenager.

(27:14):
He, he is the, the one in the bestfriend relationship that has the power.
Of course he has the beautiful girlfriend,he gets away with everything, but he's,
he's not mean spirited, I don't think.
I don't know.
Do you guys disagree?

he might, we were talking, he has like a
little bit of like tendencies we

Katie (27:35):
Yeah,

or he uses, he uses people
to,

Katie (27:38):
he's manipulative.

get his own in, to get his own means.
Yeah.
He takes advantage of, ofhis buddy Cameron for sure.
Get to it probably as we talk through,but we're not sure like what, how
healthy the relationship with Sloan is.
'cause he sort of, he sayssomething at some point later in
the he's gonna be tough next year'cause I'm going off to college.
How am I supposed to deal with that?

(28:00):
it's like.
I don't know.
It sounds like he was just sortof like gonna be s scoring, like
whatever, s scoring with chicks.
Yeah.
And he didn't want Sloanslowing him down or something.
Strange.
I don't know.
uh, I, I watched it yesterday again,just one last time before, , the
show, and I really dug thefirst about half of the movie.

(28:20):
But when he really goes downthe rabbit hole in Chicago, I
sort of lose him a little bit.
Particularly to the point wherehe abandons his friends, doesn't
tell him where he's going and thenshows up in the middle of a parade.
I mean, like, see, but I thinkhe is meant to be very likable.
Right.
He is.
Even, I don't think, I don't thinkJohn Hughes meant any of these.
No, of course not.
Since we're reading into it.

(28:41):
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, absolutely.
He's just the ultimate cool kid.
Yeah.
Yeah,

Katie (28:44):
Well, and he,

to, you'd wanna be Ferris Bueller.
You wouldn't necessarily wanna be Yeah.
One of the other people in his orbit.
Yeah.

Katie (28:51):
I mean, I see your point.
I guess I don't, I don'thave a problem with that.
'cause it's like a fun surprise he'sgiving them, and by the end of it, Cameron
does say it was the best day of his life.
He's like,

That is true.
I, I feel like people even benefitfrom, from, I think we get a few of
those in the end is like, oh, you know,he is making people's lives better.
Yeah, yeah.
By being, by him being a presence in their
life, so.

Katie (29:13):
I went back and forth with specifically when he takes
the Ferrari and he's like, therewe have no choice, Cameron.
We have to.
And Cameron's like, uh, prettysure there is another choice.
And then later he's like, Icould have put my foot down.
And Ferris is like, no.
So he does take advantage.
That was a dick move.

Oh

Katie (29:30):
but then.
He's like, listen, Cameron,he's got a shit home life.
He's so tightly wound.
If I don't force him to havefun, he wouldn't have fun.
And I don't know.
I, I guess I, I guess, all my backand forth I've landed on Ferris.
Is, is okay.
He's just a regular, popular teenager,
but I don't know.

(29:51):
Where do you guys think Ferris is now?
What is

well, I, you know, ultimately I, when I finished watching
the movie, I tried to put myselfback in 86, and I do not think that
John Hughes was trying to make ameta commentary on the nature of
narcissistic personality disorder.
So, uh, I'm almost certain thathe was just trying to, he was
the cool kid that everybody
wanted to be.

Katie (30:12):
mm-hmm.

literally that simple.
He's not a bad guy.
He's like, Marty McFly, right?
Like, Any number ofother cool eighties kids.
Yeah.
And, it is the instinct tosort of apply your current
sense of

Katie (30:22):
Mm-hmm.

and, and morality onto something that is, at this
point, 30 years old, just about.
Um, no.
40 years old.
Yeah.
40

Katie (30:32):
Oh no.

We were, yeah.
Yeah.
We were talking before about, back to thefuture, suffers a similar thing where the,
the director and producer have said yearslater that the one thing they wish they
didn't do is make the happy ending alsoinvolve like monetary, like material gain.
Like, You know, everything's goodnow 'cause his parents are rich and
successful and he is got a new car.
Right.

(30:54):
And I feel like, but that was theera that these movies were made in.
Yeah.
So they're sort of just a product ofwhat the eighties vibe was, I think.
Right?

Katie (31:02):
So 80.
Yeah, very much.
And these John Hughes moviesI am always comforted.
First of all, I love the city of Chicago.
It's my favorite American city.
So

Yeah.

Katie (31:14):
like any John Hu, they're, most of them are, set in , a
Chicago suburb, Schirmer,

Schirmer

Katie (31:22):
This is
Schirmer, Illinois, but it's alwaysthese like very wealthy suburbs.
As the opening shot, thehouse and the car, I was like,
Ugh, everybody got a pool.
It, it just looks great.
I wanna live there.

I assume that's the world in which John Hughes grew
up in, but I

Katie (31:38):
Mm-hmm.

know that, I don't know be true or not.
I mean, you know, it could be theworld that he fantasized being
a part of when he was a kid.
True.
But I don't know anything about it.
Did you go down the weird, Charlie Sheencharacter Wormhole, or you Katie, about
how Charlie Sheen's character and FerrisBueller's character are supposed to have
been friends when they were much younger.

Katie (31:57):
Yes, Yes, actually well.

home life and Ferris didn't save him from it.
So he is trying to save Mm-hmm.

Katie (32:06):
So Charlie Sheen plays this so Ferris has a sister named
Jeannie and, and she's played byJennifer Gray and she meets this
like bad boy in there for drugs.
Charlie Sheen, apparently he has aname, I didn't know he has a name, but
his name is Garth Volec and he's the,

He was supposed to have been the tow truck drivers and that hauled
Rooney's car or the son of the tow truck
driver or

Katie (32:31):
the, the tow truck is Vol Box Tow Trucking.
So there was a documentary, I guess wherehe was gonna have a whole backstory.
The vol backs of the family to whomFerris's mom was showing the house.
In her job as a realtor.
And if you look closely, the towtruck that tows Rooney's cars, Beck's
wrecking service deleted backstorythat Ferris and Garth were friends

(32:55):
in the eighth grade and Garth'sfamily pretty was pretty messed up.
Ferris tried to help him and behis friend, but Garth eventually
dropped out of high school, woundup at the police station next to
Jeanie, and that's why Ferris is sointent on giving Cameron a good time.
He blames himself for not helping Garth

See,

Katie (33:14):
when he could.

Yeah.
That it, it recontextualizesFerris Bueller
completely, if they had
managed to get that in there,because it's far less nakedly
manipulative.

Katie (33:25):
Mm-hmm.

it is more coming from a place of, goodwill, , good intentions.
In fact, that movie would'vebeen three hours long.
Yeah.
It would've been three hours
long.

Katie (33:32):
There was actually, I think like a three hour version.
Like a cut of this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So Char Charlie wasrecommended by Jennifer Gray.
What movie were they in together?
You guys remember?

dancing.
No, you know this Red Dawn?
Oh, red
Dawn.
Oh

Katie (33:47):
Red Done 1984.
Yeah.

I forgot troubleshooting was in that until you said Red Dawn.
I have such a Jennifer Gray crush too,as you like Katie probably know from
listening to our Red Dawn coverage.
That's
right.

Katie (33:59):
She looked really beautiful in this, like her skin was flawless.
I was like, wow.
Yeah.
I thought she looked, her and meand Sarah both looked really pretty.

I

Katie (34:09):
Um,

just have like a problem, like a bad habit of
liking girls with like attitude

Katie (34:16):
oh, that, yeah.
Yeah.

Yeah, bet she does.
Yeah.

Katie (34:21):
Well, so they play siblings in this, but did you know that they
would become engaged after this?
Matthew Broderick and Jennifer Gray.

Because we were like, where did she go?
And she was like, badly injured ina car crash with him driving that.
Like Killed
people.

Katie (34:37):
Yeah.
They were in Northern Island.

the UK somewhere driving like he, they think he was driving on the
American side of the road or somethingand like head on collision with this other
car and it sort of derailed her career.
Yeah, completely.
Yeah.
That's crazy though, thatthey were like an item.

Katie (34:52):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Fatal.
Fatal auto crash in Northern Island.
It was a mother and a daughter who died.
That's really sad.

That's

Katie (35:01):
I don't really remember hearing about that, that though, when I was a kid.

No, no, no.

Katie (35:05):
I just learned about it.

had like PTSD and like feelings of guilt and
she didn't work for like years
after,

Katie (35:11):
Well, she did go away and then she got a nose job, which she shouldn't have.
'cause then she lookedcompletely different.

And now she's like kind of
unrecognizable.

Katie (35:18):
Mm.
She just looks likeeverybody else kind of now.
Yeah.
Did you guys, how old doyou think So Alan Ruck.
Who this made his career.
He plays Cameron and you allknow who he is, but he was most
recently in succession, right?

Awesome.
Inception, he was

Katie (35:35):
Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.
From our, Schwarzenegger verse, wasn't he
light world

Katie (35:39):
Oh

movie world?
Wasn't he in, spin City
too?

Katie (35:42):
yeah.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
Yeah.
And Charlie Sheen was in that, wasn't he?

Charlie Sheen.
Yeah.
After Michael J.
Fox had to bow out becauseit was Parkinson's.
Charlie
Sheen took

Katie (35:51):
Okay.
Do you guys know how old Alan Recwas playing a high school student?

I'm gonna guess or 26.
I know, because I read it earlier today.
Oh, okay.
So that doesn't really count.
It was 29.
29.
Wow.

Katie (36:08):
looks, I buy him as a high school kid.
He looked so youthful.
I can't believe he was 20.
That is a young looking 29.
Mia, Sarah looked.

and bro, he and Roger were like buddies.
They had been on Broadway or
something,
or off Broadway doing plays together.

Katie (36:23):
Yep.
Yep.
I thought I didn't look up howold Mia Sarah was, but I thought
she looked older than Cameron.
Who?
Mia Sarah plays Sloan.

I know this.
I read this.
I think she was only 18 or 19.
Wow.
So
she was like age appropriate kind of.

Katie (36:37):
Mm-hmm.
She didn't really do a whole lot,but she plays Ferris's girlfriend
and she's most known for this movie
and legend, which I never saw.

And

Katie (36:49):
she had

time

Katie (36:51):
cop.
smaller role.

We did recently.
We did it
recently.

Katie (36:54):
Oh, that's right.

thing.
Always had a big Meera
crush.
Yeah,

Katie (36:57):
I mean, I,

big.

Katie (36:58):
I, I see that I can, I can see why you do
Now, do you know who she married?
They're not, they're notcurrently married, but she
married Sean Connery's son.
Jason.

Oh, really?
Okay.
Okay.

Katie (37:11):
They got divorced in like the early two thousands, I think, but,
Yeah.

thing to being married to
Sean Connery.

Katie (37:17):
Yeah.

It might actually be better.

Katie (37:20):
Jeffrey Jones.

some weird, he has a weird, he said some things at some
point about how, how you gotta smackwomen around every now and then.
That's like very antiquated
talk.

Katie (37:28):
Oh God, that doesn't surprise me.
Actually.
He's, yeah.

of his age.

Katie (37:33):
Yeah.
And then you know, yet another scandal.
Jeffrey Jones here
plays the, apparently he's listed as thedean of students and not the principal.
I don't know if,

Yeah.
That's what they, that'swhat they call him
in the movie

Katie (37:47):
mm-hmm.

strange kind.
Yeah.
He's definitely the principlethough, first of all.
Yeah.
I did see how they handled his character'sdeath and the Beetlejuice sequel.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He was just, he was likejust eaten by shark.
Yeah.
Off

Katie (38:01):
Oh, that's right, that's right.
I kind of forgot about that.

What a career he like.
What a resume he had though.
I know, I know.
Beto Juice was awesome and I remember him,it was like, I watched Howard the Duck
probably a

Katie (38:11):
Oh, that's right.
He's in that.
I always wanted to rent that at thevideo store, and my mom's like, oh my
God, can we please get something else?

It's so, so bad.
You know, when I was a so bad, whenI was a kid, all of my memories
would blur together and you know,he turns into that grotesque monster
over the course of Howard the Duck.
Mm-hmm.
I would always remember that grotesquemonster as Rooney in Ferris Bueller.
And so I would have nightmares aboutthe monster from Howard the Duck

(38:40):
in a Ferris Bueller's, day off.
And then I'd watch Ferris Bueller again.
I'm like, wait, that'snot the right movie.
That's your fan fiction?
Yeah, I guess that's my fan fiction.
Yeah.
fan fiction.
But I didn't, I didn't look it up.
He's still in jail, right?
Like they, no, I, they, they let himdon't, I think he got pled it down to
something very tiny.

Katie (38:59):
I don't think he even went to jail, did he?
I don't know.

just, his career was justifiably really solicit soliciting
a minor or something strange like
that.

Katie (39:07):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Something super gross.
Yeah.
Okay.
Did you guys recognize the parents at all?
They, they have names.

where they're from, but I recognized both
of them from a million things.
They're both working character
actors

Katie (39:21):
Mm-hmm.

look them up.
I should have, I recognized themfrom this movie only, I think.

Katie (39:25):
I didn't even realize they had names until doing the research.
It's Katie and Tom Bueller
and Cindy Pickett plays Katie andshe was also the mom and son-in-law,

Yes, that's right.
Yes, that is

Katie (39:37):
the Polly Shore movie.

shore guy.
Yeah.
I love Poly Shore.
Yeah.
Oh, I didn't really watch those.
Yeah.

Katie (39:43):
And Lyman Ward, what a name.
That's like a very rich guy name.
He played the dad and he had a lot of,just like a lot of one-off TV appearances.
And he has a couple of uncreditedroles in other John Hughes movies.
And John Hughes's famous for doing this,so he was also in planes, trains, and
automobiles, and she's having a baby.

(40:05):
And these two got married in real life.

Yes, I did read that.
That's That's awesome.
I love that.
That's funny.

Katie (40:12):
I mean, they did get divorced in 1992, but yeah.

that's kind of the rules.

Katie (40:16):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
I just think that's awesome.
And I, I think maybe one ofmy favorite characters is
Grace, the assistant to Rooney.

yeah.
Grace.
Oh hell is amazing.
Yeah, she

Katie (40:28):
Ugh.

memorable in plane trains and automobiles.

Katie (40:31):
She is another one of those.
The actress is Edie McClure,and she's always in a John
Hughes movie in a small part.
We just covered Mr.
Mom and she was the cashierat the grocery store.
She's in,

I didn't know
Mr.
Mom was John Hughes.
yeah, Nor did

Katie (40:46):
yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay.
I love Michael Keaton.
Yeah, me too.
And that's a, Mr.
Mom is a great
movie,

Katie (40:53):
Oh, it was so fun to re-watch it.

goddess, though.
I feel like that stuff she'sdoing has to just be off
script.
Yeah.

Katie (40:59):
She was amazing.
I loved, like, when we are introducedto her she's like pulling pencils out
of her hair and sniffing the white out.
Yeah.

she's like
Yeah.
When she goes on her little rantabout, all the, the various
cliques or

Katie (41:14):
Mm-hmm.

the dweebs and the, they like, one of the cliques is
the dickheads.

Katie (41:17):
Dickhead.

dickhead
Love Ferris fueler.
It's so

Katie (41:21):
I love it.
Yeah.

scene in particular was a great way of masking some
exposition because he is talkingon the phone, Rooney's talking
on the phone to Ferris's motherexplaining basically the information
we already

Katie (41:32):
Mm-hmm.

monologue to us earlier.
Right.
But the way that they coverthis info dump is by having
this just fun nonverbal scene.
Of of grace pulling, you know, pencilsout of her hair and doing all this.
It's just ditzy.
Yeah.
it makes like this fun visualscene and then you don't get bogged
down on all the exposition that'sactually going on in the background.
I thought that that was superclever and he did that a

(41:54):
couple of times

Katie (41:55):
Mm-hmm.

of the movie where something completely unrelated to the
dialogue being spoken was happening inthe foreground and it would make, made
what would've other been a pretty boringscene into something interesting to watch.
It is a lot.
You get that a lot with the valet guys.
Yeah.
The parking garage.
Yeah, exactly.
Like action happening in the
background or

Katie (42:10):
Oh, I loved those guys.

Very clever.
Yeah.

Katie (42:13):
Uh,

Um,

Katie (42:13):
you speak English?

about, hold on.

Katie (42:15):
There's one final cast member, Ben Stein, the economics teacher.

Yes.
Eller.
Bueller, he took like one sceneand made a career outta that.
I know.

Katie (42:27):
he was,
he is a real economics, like hehas a degree in economics, I guess.

he's a smart guy.
He, he wrote scripts for Nixon.
I think he was, he was a
script writer for Yeah.
And we all know from the whateverComedy Central, the Win Stein
Money Show Win Stein money.
Yep.
Like the trivia show where he is.
So he's like a smart guy, which got,which is what got Jimmy Kimmel his start.
He hosted
that.
Yep.

Katie (42:49):
Really?

Yep.

Katie (42:51):
I remember him from, he had Visine commercials back in the day too.

he did have

Katie (42:55):
Remember?

those Yeah.
Yeah.
Bueller, like that is iconic.
The thing, this was like, blew my mindbecause when I used to watch this, I
would never pay attention to the, thescene where he's giving a lecture and
all the students are falling asleep.
But this time I was,

Katie (43:10):
Paying attention to it.
It was about tariffs.

about how tariffs don't
work.
Like

Katie (43:14):
Oh my God.
It, I noted that because of the timethat we're, time and place that we're
in right now, he was talking about
the Great Depression and how Republicansthought it'd be a great idea and he's
a Republican, Ben Stein, you know,

Right.

Katie (43:30):
And he is like, did it raise or lower or was it, did it work?
And no, everybody's sleeping.
He answers his own questions.
No.

of what they have Right.
In the Amer in United Statessank deeper into the depression,

Katie (43:44):
Yep,

because you're not supposed
to pay attention

Katie (43:46):
exactly.

No.
It's supposed to be just so boring.
It's so boring.
And then this time I was actuallylistening it to it going, oh, that's
interesting.

Katie (43:52):
Huh.
Wild, wild.
I didn't, I don't know if I buy this,but I read that because he does have
an actual economics degree and can talkabout, you know, there was some, it had
a name such and such tariff bill and,
you know, he,

the Snoot

Katie (44:06):
yeah.

first part of it.

Katie (44:08):
And he even brought up like voodoo one of the bushes who was
Voodoo
economic.
Yeah,

that.
All trickle down.
Yeah, the

Katie (44:14):
yeah.

I know.

Katie (44:16):
But I guess everything except for the roll call was ad-libbed by Stein.

Oh yeah, that makes sense.
He could just sneak
it off the

Katie (44:24):
Yeah.
He was just like,

there's no way John Hughes knows
anything

Katie (44:27):
yeah.

this.

Katie (44:28):
He was probably like, just give a economics lecture about something boring.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.

I felt like Did, do you think he went out of his
way to not put any of the bratpack ca like crew in this movie?

Katie (44:41):
No, I think I even.

different from other John Hughes movies 'cause
none of those familiar faces are
in It

Katie (44:46):
It does.
I did read a few of them were offered orauditioned or were considered for roles.
So for example, Molly Ringwald forSloan Anthony, Michael Hall for Cameron

Those
would've been weird

Katie (45:00):
Rob Lowe, Rob Lowe for Ferris, like those were some of the brat packers.
Yeah.

I found myself thinking Charlie Sheen could've probably
played Ferris Bueller pretty well.
I thought his role was perfect.
I thought that was like, I,he didn't, he nailed what
he did,

Katie (45:14):
Mm-hmm.

thought like he has that sort of like that Ferris Bueller has.
I think I, I, I don't think he's gotan edge in my opinion that, , that

Katie (45:25):
Mm-hmm.

yeah, Broder doesn't have, Broder came across as a little bit more
innocent,

Katie (45:28):
Squeaky.

me is the reason why it works.
It can work.
That's true.
He is.
'cause he seems very kindhearted andCharlie Sheen, maybe not so much.
Sheen did like platoon later this yearand then like really exploded his career.

Katie (45:42):
I did read something about, I just thought it was kind of ironic
because Charlie Sheen's supposed to beplaying like he's in jail for drugs or
something, and he looked it like, helooked like his, the way his eyes were,

was great.
Yeah.

Katie (45:54):
I guess he stayed up for 48 hours to look really like,

Same thing,
like, That's pretty commit.
That's like a lot of commitment for
such a little

Katie (46:02):
although like I'm sure okay, I buy that.
He stayed up for 48 hours, but

just partying

Katie (46:08):
yeah, exactly.
I'm like
doing coke the whole time, I'm sure.
yeah,

Right.

Katie (46:13):
yeah, yeah.
I have to,
I have to.

I, I still laugh at that, their initial exchange where he just
looks at, at Jeanie and goes, drugs.
Yeah.
And she goes, no, no, no.
I don't want any.
He is like, no, no, no.
Are you in for drugs?
And she goes, no.
I mean, what are you in for?
He is like, drugs, you know?
He is so funny.
He's a funny
Yeah.
He great it.
Yeah.

Katie (46:33):
She kind of killed her part too.
There were a few times that like,she just delivered a line in such
a way that I was like, she's,

Oh yeah.
Yeah.

Katie (46:39):
she, I, it's,

crotch on, uh, Jeanie.
Bueller.

Katie (46:42):
it's too bad that she didn't have a bigger career, you know?
Do you guys think so Matthew Broderickwas nominated for a Golden Globe.
Do you guys think that's warranted?

Oh yeah, absolutely.
I thought he

Katie (46:55):
Yeah,

in this

Katie (46:56):
me too.
I just wasn't sure.

I think it's well deserved, I would say.
Yeah.
It was, I don't know if he's beennominated for other things in his
career, but this is the, thing for
him,

Katie (47:06):
Yep,

the same with like Michael J.
Fox, like whatever else hedid, like Back to the Future
will always be

Katie (47:11):
yep.
Agreed.
I'm, I'm kind of surprised.

time?

Katie (47:17):
Well, he did like Biloxi Blues.
What else did he do?
He, I think he was a stage actor.

Was is my favorite.
Matthew Brodrick movie.
That's a great movie.
Which was before this

Katie (47:28):
Mm-hmm.

Bra.
Packer.

Katie (47:29):
And he hacked the computer in that too, didn't he?

yeah, absolutely.
He a, a computer actor, computer whiz.
Yeah.
Up.

Katie (47:37):
It's odd though.
Movies like this don'tusually get nominated.
I, I'm kind of surprised.
You know, like a, just a fun.
Mm-hmm.

is shunned for whatever
reason.
It wasn't

Katie (47:47):
Mm-hmm.

tour de force performance.
It was, yeah.
And I don't think there was thatmany movies where you got like a
character that got to talk directlyto the camera the way he did, like

Katie (47:56):
Very unique.
Very unique.

I was like thinking about that and , now
it's done a little bit more maybe.
But then I feel like Annie Hall maybehad that and I can't think of much else
that would've been before this that hada character addressing the audience.
It was, yeah.
I mean it , was a pretty rare phenomenon.
And it still is too.
I mean, yeah, like Deadpooldoes it in like some things now.
You know?
It's done a little bit more now than itwas, but I felt it was pretty like Yeah.

(48:20):
To do it.

Katie (48:22):
And they even had writing on the screen, like more so at the beginning.
Just that be begin.

That's right.
It was like, so sort of
breaking

Katie (48:29):
Mm-hmm.

between the audience and the, the explaining
the perfect way to, , to fake being
sick.

Katie (48:34):
Mm-hmm.

cool.
Yeah, I love, that was oneof the memorable standout
scenes of the movie for me.
It's like that first scene where he sortof, the parents leave and he turns to
the camera and he is like, they boughtit and then he does the whole like
monologue about how to fake sickness.
I mean, I thought it was a love it.
I thought it was abrilliantly directed moment.
Right.
Because there's no, explanationthat this is about to happen up to

(48:55):
this point.

Katie (48:56):
Mm-hmm.

out like a pretty common team comedy, but then when
he turns to the camera and directlyspeaks to you in that moment, oh yeah.
You know that this isgonna be a different movie.
I'm sure he was blowing mines in 86.

Katie (49:07):
The elaborate nature of, I mean, obviously we're gonna talk
about how massively unrealisticeverything in this movie is.
Like it,
you know, if anybody called at thewrong time or came home at the wrong,
like the way that the elaborate natureof his computer set up and the, the

(49:27):
answering machines and call waiting

I know.
Answering

Katie (49:32):
this

little doorbell,

Katie (49:33):
86 man I mean, and if you called one number, it would go
to Cameron's answering machineand that was the funeral home.
Like they had everything perfectlyplanned out, but if anything
ever were to go wrong with it,
it's blown.
Mm-hmm.
Also, he seemed to know thatCameron was also gonna be homesick.

Which may be re the reason, so this is, this
steelman this a little bit.
I suspect that Cameron had beenout for a couple of days, so he was
pretty confident that he was home.
Mm.
And so he orchestrated this day
to be

Katie (50:06):
Oh,

would be

Katie (50:08):
that's,

some

Katie (50:08):
that works.
Yes.
Mm-hmm.

I had the, the DVD with the commentary, which I
listened to

Katie (50:15):
Ooh,

prepping for this.
And John Hughes said he hada friend when he was a kid.
Who was that?
Cameron's based on, who was likesick, sick, all the time and had
a bad home life and he to be sick.
That was like the only way hecould get his parents' attention.
It's sort of depressing, but yeah.
It's kind of sad, but character.
But that sort of charactersort of based it on character.
Yeah.
And a realistic or like areal feeling of character.

(50:36):
Yeah.

Katie (50:38):
good point.
And he had, it was like also a friendof his or somebody he knew that had a
name, the name Bueller came from that.

Oh

Katie (50:46):
John Hughes, lifelong friend named Bert Buhler.

Burt
Bueller.

Katie (50:52):
And.

That sounds like something out, like Mad Men or whatever.

Katie (50:55):
And Ferris, I always thought, well, first of all, all the names in this movie
are very unique, especially for 1986 slo.
I always thought that was like so cool.
And Cameron, it, I mean, while that isordinary now, it wasn't that and Ferris,

for
sure.

Katie (51:13):
did you guys read where Ferris came from?

I know.
No, but it always reminds me ofFenris, which is a word for fox, and so

Katie (51:21):
Oh,

a fox.
That that's what I, okay.
I haven't done any

Katie (51:25):
oh,

just the, the, the, the, you know, the road that let me
down.

Katie (51:29):
I kind of like that better.
What I read was that.

it's a Norse word, right?
I think that
I know.

Katie (51:35):
That would track, that would track it is actually, if we think
about John Hughes and his love forChicago, this track, so the Ferris
wheel debuted and then 1893 ChicagoWorld's Columbian exposition.
And so everyone kind ofrevolves around Ferris
as the, the hub of the wheel.

That's really clever.
Getting really met with
it.

Katie (51:57):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did you guys take note of the music at all
in this movie?

Yeah, I did.
So sometimes it was likethe score or the soundtrack.

Katie (52:08):
Well, both.
Both.

I, so I was noticing the soundtrack or the, the score a lot because
it would bounce between like orchestral

Katie (52:17):
Mm.
Mm-hmm.

synth stuff.
And then there was that weirdLooney Tunes piece when Rooney was
Yeah, infiltrating Ferris's house.
I mean, it was all over the map.
There was not a, a central court ofcore idea with the score in my mind.
For me, like the pop musicchoices, this, the pop music
soundtrack stuck out more to me.

Katie (52:36):
It was really unique.
I thought like the way thatthey used music for certain
scenes was just different.
I, I think Ferris just feels, as a kid,you're like, oh my God, this world of,
you know, being a teenager and skippingschool and doing all these awesome things.
And there is one thing that I didn'tnotice that I took note of this
time, throughout the movie, everybodyis singing, you know, as you just

(53:01):
like sing to yourself, Don Shane.

Don Shane.
Yeah, I did notice that appears no less

Katie (53:07):
Mm-hmm.
Like different, like

characters.

Katie (53:10):
four different characters.
But the, the person responsiblefor the music is Ira Newborn, which
frequent John Hughes collaborator.
We did talk about him.
He did Uncle Buck too.
So on the Uncle Buckepisode we talked about him.
Like films.
He did 16 Candles, weird ScienceBuer Day Off, uncle Buck Planes,
trans and Automobiles Mall Rats.

(53:32):
Ace Ventura.

Oh

Katie (53:33):
Yeah.

wow.

Katie (53:34):
Ira Newborn.
Mm-hmm.

He's like the comedy guy.

Katie (53:37):
Yeah,

I remember listening to an interview with Kevin
Smith when he was talking about.
Like he couldn't believe that he
got IRA

Katie (53:44):
IRA Newborn.

to do the music for alls.
'cause it's like all of his moviesbasically were inspired by John
Hughes and growing up I do watchingthis one, especially, I was
getting big like Kevin Smith vibe.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
This was written Kevin Smith
style, or

Katie (53:56):
Oh,

was writing his stuff.
Ferris Bueller
style.

Katie (53:59):
I didn't realize, I didn't ever make that connection before.
I could call you guys.

Especially the, the ancillary like high
school

Katie (54:07):
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.
The scenes in the hallwayand stuff like that big.
Like, I was getting Kevin Smithrhythm of the, the dialogue and all.

Katie (54:15):
Yeah.

I love the, soundtrack.
I, I feel like John Hughes waslike the eighties soundtrack king,

Katie (54:19):
Mm-hmm.

a like cool pop music or, that's the stuff I listen
to, like Simple Minds and all that.
British.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like the Smiths and stuff.
Yeah.
I

Katie (54:29):
Well, it seemed like Ferris was a fan too, with the,

Ferris.
Yep, absolutely.
Like a ska band or a punkband or something later.
Later on.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.

Katie (54:37):
well, he had the on his door, he had the British flag, and he had a
Simple minds poster in his room too.
Right.

I loved his room.
I thought the production design onhis room was like a Oh yeah, like
a, a, a teenage like aspirations.
Well, and everything's cooland so many Easter eggs of like

Katie (54:57):
Mmm.

in The
hat and like all the stuff he would useto, and the mannequin like, and like
the mannequin's wearing the trench in
the hat.

Katie (55:03):
Mm-hmm.

Awesome.
I also do love when he's waiting forcamera and he is on the phone with him
and he is drawing a naked lady on his
computer, which

Katie (55:09):
Yeah.

like with the Microsoft, with the paints, I
dunno.

Katie (55:12):
Yeah.
What was that program?
That computer was awesome though,

didn't he?
Like the, the, keyboard.
Yeah.
And the computer and everything likethat with the five and a quarter
floppy disc for the sound effects,which I thought was hilarious.
We also kept changing wardrobe,like every time we'd see him, he'd
be dressed completely differentlyin the first 15 minutes or
so.
That's

Katie (55:28):
before he leaves the house every, yeah, you're right.
Every outfit is different.
This movie, I didn't realize whata hit it was and I didn't do the
math on what it would be in today'sdollars, but it was made for $5
million and made over $70 million.

That's a nice return.
That's a win.
It's amazing what you can do witha movie with no special effects.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Just like good writing and good acting.

Katie (55:55):
Good point.
And using, I really do thinkit makes a huge difference.
I, I feel like, I feel it whenthey film on location somewhere
versus like on a sound stage.

Oh yeah, absolutely.
Location actually is way more effectivethan just being on a sound stage.
The lightning just is more real.
like that Chicago is likea character in the movie?
Yeah.

Katie (56:18):
I swear to God, I never made the connection until starting
to do this John Hughes season.
I adore Chicago and I think subconsciouslyit's because I've been watching
John Hughes movies my whole life.

I've shamefully never been to Chicago before.
I need to It's a great
city.
Yeah, I

Katie (56:34):
Oh,

city.

Katie (56:36):
I,

it's one

Katie (56:36):
I,
mm-hmm.
It's now.
Don't let Ferris Bueller day off fool you.
You could pick one of the thingsthat he does in this movie.
I love how

done.
We got, yeah, they really did.
Really?
It was a hell of an afternoon.

Katie (56:54):
I tried to track it time-wise, and it's impossible.

plays really fast and loose with time.
Like the, yeah, the wholetimeline between when he's.
a fast one over Rooney to get Sloanout of class and he drives from
his, they drive from his house toCameron's house to get the Ferrari.
They have the argument withthe Ferrari and drive Uhhuh the
Ferrari back to the high school.
been standing outside for two minutes.

(57:19):
They do the fancy lunch.
They do the Cubs game.
Yeah, exactly.
Is a lot.
The baseball game is like three and a
half

Katie (57:25):
Mm-hmm.

They must have stayed for like one
or two inning.

Katie (57:27):
They had, yeah.

just until he got the foul ball and then they could leave.
Yeah.

Katie (57:31):
I sort of assumed 'cause one school period had happened.
You know, I was like, well,maybe it's like 10:00 AM when
they leave to go to Chicago.
Which in reality probably wouldtake them an hour to get there.
But let's just be

Yeah.
It's

Katie (57:46):
generous.

this

Katie (57:47):
Let's be generous.
that it's 15 minutes.
Then they go to the Sears Tower, thenthey, the stock market for some reason.
I don't

they were there early lunch.
I did love Cameron doing theThree Stooges hand gestures while
the stock people were doing hand
gestures

Katie (58:04):
Oh yeah.
Uhhuh Uhhuh and thenthe French restaurant,
uh, then the baseball game, then the artmuseum, which would take all day to do.
Then the parade,
yeah.
It was a random parade.
Yeah.
The

Parade Parade.
The German Pride parade.

Katie (58:21):
which was a real parade.
That's like a real, like thatwas real footage from a parade.

Mm-hmm.

Katie (58:27):
And then the people like the construction workers dancing
and stuff, that was, they werejust dancing to the parade music.

I love that.
Yeah.
I, I, so I, you crank that twist andshout and everyone's gonna get into it.
I think for me was a bit of abridge too far especially given
that they didn't even try to maskthe fact that it was clearly Wayne
Newton and John Lennon singing.
And you could tell thatMatthew brought, oh yeah.
He was not sinking was, he was just lipsyncing, but like they presented it like

(58:55):
he was the one who was actually sinking.
He had the microphone and everything.
I never thought

Katie (58:59):
I didn't take that because he sang two songs.
What was the song before that?

It was Don

Katie (59:04):
Oh, Don Shane.
And then Twist and Shot.
Yeah, you're right.

Yeah.
Yeah.

Katie (59:08):
I did not ever think that we were supposed to believe he was singing.
I always assumed that he was just

that either.
But you fake that way.
No, no, no, no.

Katie (59:19):
that.

like McCartney really didn't like Like Didn't
like it?

Katie (59:23):
Mm-hmm.

He's like, if we meant for the song to have brass horns,
we would've put brass horns on it.
And it's like, dude, lighten up.

Katie (59:30):
No shit.
I found that, that I was like,ecstatic during that scene.
I forgot how fun it was.
It made me want to be there, like in,

Yes.

Katie (59:41):
in the parade with them.

a curmudgeony old man.
I spent that entire, that entiresequence going, get on with it.

Katie (59:49):
Oh my God.
That, that was like my favorite

if I, I, noticed how cute all the little,
the girls on the

Katie (59:55):
girls.
Mm-hmm.
They were,

with the, in their little les or whatever.
Yeah.
The, the German gear.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
They were lookers.

Katie (01:00:02):
they?

Kevin And Eric (01:00:03):
The only thing I was thinking is like, how did
they choreograph this so fast?
That's just, no, it's got the Ferris Buer
magic.

Katie (01:00:10):
Mm-hmm.

clearly does.
Everything he touches , goesto gold, you know?
Part of the reason why I thought that itwas actually uh, like to be representative
of his singing is , the accordionplayer on the back of the float was
actually playing along with everything.
And so everything was.
Presented like it was tic, butit clearly wasn't, and that took
me out of it just because I'm a,know, like I said, a curmudgeon.

(01:00:33):
I just like shouting at clouds,

Katie (01:00:40):
No, I, I really wish you could do all of those things in, in a day.
And granted they had until six, butthere's no way you could fit all that in.
'cause then Cameron has a
freak out and like they gohave, spend time in the pool.
They're all just likelackadaisical with their time.
And then fi finally the finalscene where has to rush home.
He is five minutes and it's likeall of a sudden there's this

(01:01:02):
sense of urgency to get home.
The Ferrari had the keys in the car.
In the garage.

I know, right?
Yeah.
The dad was like not thatprotective of the car.
No, clearly not.
Not only was this glass Garage unlocked,but he left the keys in the car.
I mean, if.
If you

Katie (01:01:24):
right.

steal this, Come on man.

Katie (01:01:28):
That's like a fiberglass car.
Like it's not a real car.

Oh yeah.
It was a rough car.
Yeah,

Katie (01:01:32):
Yeah.

Yeah.
I was
re so

Katie (01:01:36):
a good one.

caught up this time of watching it.
I was like, wait a second.
Jeanie and Ferris are both seniors,but they're not meant to be twins.
No.
Right.
Have

Katie (01:01:45):
Well,

that

Katie (01:01:46):
originally, or the, I think originally they were twins.
But what we have is Jeanie's a junior.

Oh, she's younger.
I thought for sure she was older than him.

Katie (01:01:57):
I, I know it's, which you're right.
Because why does she have a carand she's younger than Farth.
Mm-hmm.
I,
same note, same note.
And they have a ton of money clearly.
Like why?
Like, um,

for sure she Was maybe like an Irish twin,
either they could have been bornwithin the same year or that.
got bumped up a grade, or she got heldback a grade or something happened.
Yeah.
I I never assumed that she couldhave been younger than him.
Hmm.

Katie (01:02:27):
well, she's definitely not older and he's a senior,

Yeah.
Right, right.

Katie (01:02:32):
know?

did it.
I mean, I noticed she wasnever in class either.
I

Katie (01:02:37):
Yeah.

to her having one day, like she was skipping, she was
skipping class and doing this andthat, and she's mad at him for skipping
class.

Katie (01:02:43):
Charlie Sheen literally says you could skip two.
And I was like, she is.
She did.

She just left.
She left in the middleof the day to go home.
Yeah.
Yeah.
yeah, Charlie Sheen was droppinglike some serious, real, true
philosophical like wisdom on
her.

Katie (01:02:59):
He was.
And that's why
you're Good point.
And, and we see that pay offbecause she does come to Ferris's.
Rescue at the end,

Mm-hmm.

Katie (01:03:09):
which I had kind of forgotten about.
I totally forgot that theprincipal is still there Somehow.
Okay, you guys, the principal breaksinto this kid's home and then his,
his car gets towed, he leaves hiswallet there, the dog attacks.
And then Ferris is trying to get in.
I totally forgot that he looks for thekey under the mat and then he gets caught.

Yeah.
Can we talk?
He assaulted the, the Bueller
family dog.

Katie (01:03:35):
yes,

Feted, like poison flowers.
I never thought that before.
No.
I thought he like smashedthe vase on the dog's head.
Oh, is that what it
was?

Katie (01:03:42):
think so.
I think when I was little, I thoughtit was like the plants were some
sort of like, but I think he hitthe dog over the head with it.

That makes a lot more sense.
That's so messed
up.
Yeah,
that was, I, I made it, I was making alist as I watched of my favorite moments
from the movie and when the dude deliveredthe flowers, like Louis Anderson brought
the flowers around and he like just alittle honk, like B, b, b that, yeah.
And, and principal's like,like flicks 'em off twice.
Yeah.
That was so, such a relatable moment.

(01:04:12):
easily like a top, laugh out loud moment
where the

Katie (01:04:14):
I,

is.

Katie (01:04:15):
I forgot about the, the slutty Neurogram

Oh yeah.
That was so outta left
field.
Was that

Katie (01:04:21):
YI think so.
Because she says something about pluck.
I'm the nurse who likes to,

and then the door

Katie (01:04:30):
yeah.

well
who said that?
That's crazy.
Crazy.

Katie (01:04:37):
But speaking of Jeanie though, this is, I think, a hole because she
knew from the get go that he was faking

Mm-hmm.

Katie (01:04:45):
because he winks at her and everything.
Like she knows this beforeshe even goes to school.
So why is she so intent ontrying to catch him in the act?

So I was, I was thinking about this.
It, it is, it is what Charlie Sheen wassaying, that this is really about Ferris.
It's about
her.
Yeah.

Katie (01:05:04):
Mm.

wants the attention that he
gets.

Katie (01:05:07):
Mm-hmm.

if she just paddles on him in that moment in the morning,
she's gonna come across as the
bad guy.

Katie (01:05:12):
Mm-hmm.

wants him to get caught.
If she, if she catches him inthe act, then he becomes the
bad guy.

Katie (01:05:17):
Ah,

that, that, so it's like, it's all what Charlie Sheen was saying
is that this is just her being angry atherself, that she's not willing to take
the risks that he's willing to take.
Yeah.

Katie (01:05:28):
Yeah.
that tracks, that makes sense.

And, and

Katie (01:05:32):
yeah.

that wisdom of like, you should be concerned
about what your brother's
doing.

Katie (01:05:37):
Mm-hmm.

And more like, why are you so worried about what he's doing?
Why don't you just do what you want to do?
Yeah, exactly.

Katie (01:05:42):
Oh.

like spot on, like wisdom that I don't think a teenager
has the, the, the perspective on,

Katie (01:05:51):
Really good point.
I, wow.
Charlie Jean had a bigger impactin this movie than I had thought.

I think he turned her life
around.
Right?
Right.
Exactly.
In the

Katie (01:05:59):
Yeah.

do I care if far is to skipping school or not?
Yeah.

Katie (01:06:03):
Why does she tell him that her name is Jean, but, but
a lot of guys call her Shauna.

That made no sense to me.
I, I wonder, the only thing Icould track up, because she is
just like all of a sudden smitten
with this

Katie (01:06:16):
Hmm mm-hmm.

just trying to come off Cool.
I don't know.
But they had that littlesong that was playing.
Yeah.
The little doop song that waslike saying Genie and Shauna.
And I didn't know if that wasa real song or something they
wrote for the

Katie (01:06:27):
Oh yeah.
Maybe that just went over my head.
If there's this

would call you
Shauna.

Katie (01:06:32):
Yeah.
The hall.

clear that she had very much wanted his body.
She fell in love with Charlie Sheen
pretty quick.

Katie (01:06:40):
Oh yeah.
The bad boy.
I mean, come on.
And Charlie Sheen was verygood looking back in the day.

He's a

Katie (01:06:47):
I.
Like at that time?

For sure.
Yeah.

Katie (01:06:49):
At the time also when we come home, I to, there were several things,
I haven't seen this as many times as youguys probably that I totally forgot about.
When the parents come home, the livingroom or the entryway or whatever is
just packed full of flower deliveries.

and who was, who was putting them inside?

Katie (01:07:10):
Good point.

jokes of the movie.
No, that was one of the runningjokes of the movie that I liked
so much was the whole community.
Yeah.
Rallying around

Katie (01:07:17):
Mm-hmm.

she, when the mom was at the police station and she's like, tell
Ferris all the guys at the station arepulling for him all that and like the,
you know, the, the English departmentlikes and the flowers and everything else.
And what was she on the phonewith the nine one one operator?
And they're like, yeah.
I'm, thank you very much for hoping thatmy brother's feeling better, but can
you please simply, I loved all that.

(01:07:38):
It was so good.
The Save Ferris on the, the safeFerris on the water tower, which
I read that remained on the watertower for like years afterwards.
Oh wow.

Katie (01:07:46):
I love that.

in, like never repainted it.
So it was just there for a while.
Money, yeah.
I mean, like the studiopaid to put it up there.
They're not gonna pay to take it
down.

Katie (01:07:54):
Good point.
He was in the Chicago Sun Times thathis dad was reading in the taxi cab.
How did, when did that get written?

of the paper?

Katie (01:08:05):
Yeah.
Did they,
oh my God.
Kenny Ortega choreographed theDancing and if that name sounds
familiar, he also choreographed forDirty Dancing with Jennifer Gray

okay.
Like the, the scene with thedancers on the stairs or whatever.

Katie (01:08:26):
on the on the float and stuff, I think.
But
I think there was more dancing originally.
But the scene where he likejumps from the trampoline.
He, he like hurt himself, so heactually had an injury that prevented
him from doing a lot of the dancingthat they had choreographed.
So there was supposed to be moredancing from Matthew, I guess.

Well, okay.
As someone who hates choreographeddance, thank you Matthew
Rodrick for getting injured.
Dude, Ferris's swaggerwas so off the charts.
Oh yeah, yeah.
In this movie, like when he is talking tothe girl on the phone and all that, and
then like when he is running through theyard and he comes back to talk to, he's
just like, Hey, I'm the sun bathers, or
whatever.
I mean,

Katie (01:09:07):
Like

I still laugh every time.
still laugh.
It's so good.
Not the best boyfriend moves.
No, no, no.
But
we

Katie (01:09:15):
Yeah.
He like proposes.
It's like it's on, I guess he's just aguy, a guy is a guy, I guess, but he's
like trying to get, he's trying to lockSloan down and she's in high school.

She's like

Katie (01:09:26):
he is too.
Yeah.

I know.
I, so this is, and this is whereI have to pause and remind myself
what, when the movie was made and,you know, but it's just like and
children are, is like the, the biggesttool that narcissists and sociopaths
have in their tool shed Oh shit.
To
control

Katie (01:09:43):
Oh, of course,
of course.

feel like it was a strangely manipulative thing for him
to do, you know, the, the thing that Iappreciate about Sloan is, is I always got
the sense in this scene in particular,showed it that she knew what Ferris was.
And

Katie (01:10:00):
Mm-hmm.

manipulated by him.
And she was going along with itbecause she was having a good time.
See, that's the thing.
But he had no actual control over
her.
She was

Katie (01:10:08):
She knew the drill.

situation the whole
time.

Katie (01:10:10):
Good point.

vibes I got.
I wanna get your perspective,Katie, 'cause I also felt like maybe
Katie is not, she likes Farris asa high school boyfriend, but she
doesn't really see long-term future
with him,

Katie (01:10:21):
Oh, no, no.
That's what I'm, I'm like, where I dosee him growing up to be a narcissist.
I do.
I, yeah.

He's probably running some, He's probably

Katie (01:10:30):
A CEO.

or of

Katie (01:10:31):
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.

like on his fourth
marriage.
Yep.

Katie (01:10:34):
Nobody ever tells him no.
Yeah.
He, yeah.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
'cause he, I mean, yeah, hegrew up kind of having every,
although the, he wants a car, it

Yeah.
It's like the one thing he doesn'tget, I do like that as well too,
like the running gag of whenhe was making fun of, Cameron's

Katie (01:10:53):
mm-hmm.

Yeah.
And he is like, my car'snot a piece of shit.
And he's like, it is a piece of shit.
He's like, but I don'teven have a piece of shit.
I have to be, I have to envy yours.
Yeah.

Katie (01:11:01):
Bu

It's,

Katie (01:11:02):
It's,
It's,
what?
Speaking of cars, I didn'tnotice this ever until I paid,
I specifically paid attention.
'cause I read it, the licenseplates on all the cars.
It was like a, that was like anotherEaster egg throughout the movie of

with the license plate on the Ferrari?
No.
It was, but it was like John Hughes
references or

Katie (01:11:21):
mm-hmm.

Okay.
To

Katie (01:11:22):
Well, nervous makes sense for the camera, like for the Ferrari.
But the other ones that there wasVCTN on Katie's car for vacation.
Jeannie's was TBC, the Breakfast Club.

Mm-hmm.

Katie (01:11:36):
was MMOM, Mr.
Mom Rooney's was four FBDOFerris Bueller's Day off.

I

Katie (01:11:45):
Yeah.
And then Cameron's dad's was nervous.
Yeah.

Every

Katie (01:11:49):
never would've made,

movie, I pick up on new, like little details that are in it.
Like they were running wildwith the production design
on the movie, and I love it.
Yeah, I, I noticed all of the,vanity plates, but Nervous was
the only one I picked up on.
Yeah.
But I knew that they all had somemeaning, but I didn't know what it was.
So John Hughes
movies.
Okay.

Katie (01:12:06):
yeah, yeah.
Well, nervous was showcased Way more.
God, that was a sweet car.
I loved the garage guys so much.

oh yeah, they were great.
Those on my list of like favoritecharacters making, like, I love that dude.
The one guy was in Platoon, themain, like the, the main dude.
But I like when he islike, do you speak English?
And it's like, what countrydo you, what country do this?
Then when he was trying to getCameron out of the corner, he is like.
Sir.
He's like, oh, you guyshave nothing to worry about.

(01:12:35):
Oh my God, it's so, so funny.
Every line that he had was a riot.
That dude was wild.
Yeah.
I
love when they're

Katie (01:12:42):
he was.

air and like he got the Star Wars music.
Yeah, I, that was the thing, like some ofthe music that they licensed, I mean, John
Williams rarely licenses his music out.
So the fact that he licensed theStar Wars theme was unbelievable.
I feel like that must've been expensive.
Yeah.
Same with the Beatles.
The Beatles at this point intime, were notoriously not willing
to license their stuff out.
So the fact that they got TwistedShout, but Twisted Shout, they

(01:13:05):
didn't write, twist and shout.
Oh, so it might have been cheaper.
Yeah.
Maybe
was like an

Katie (01:13:09):
But there was a ton of, they reused, like they, you're right.
We talked about it onthe Mr Mom episode too.
'cause it was also made for $5million and, and made a ton of money.
And in Mr.
Mom they had like the Jawsmusic, the Rocky music, tons of
young and the Restless episode.
I was noticing very similar.
I'm like, was it just like way cheaperto license music back in the day

Maybe.

Katie (01:13:35):
million

Yeah.

Katie (01:13:37):
you know,

Yeah.
'cause you need now, like if you wannalicense a Beatles song, it might cost you

Katie (01:13:42):
the whole Right.
Right.

Right.
Yeah.
I loved the whole bitin the museum with that.
Like, It was like a coverversion of a Smith song.
Yeah.
It's so good.
But it was sort of separatefrom the rest of the movie, like
a little short film in itself.
But it was like, there was somethingdeep and artistic about it.
And like that, that whole sceneis just, Cameron was like having
some sort of a moment, you know?
I loved all that.
It's like, it's, it's iconic.

(01:14:05):
I mean, that scene has been spoofed inTV shows and cartoons and other movies.
I mean, it is one of the mosticonic scenes of any movie in
the eighties, in my opinion.

Katie (01:14:16):
That in the garage, the Ferrari garage, you can just show
somebody the picture of that garage,

Yeah.

Katie (01:14:22):
which,
which, by the way, I wouldlike to live in that garage.
I mean, it was so like, God,these people have money.

garage.

Katie (01:14:30):
Yes.

yeah, Yeah.
yeah,

Katie (01:14:32):
Where the Ferrari is ugh.

That was the weird house, wasn't it?
It was

Katie (01:14:35):
Mm-hmm.

of the woods like, like, right.
It was some very mid,mid-century modern house.
Yeah.
That's the other iconic standout moment.
It was just watching
that car

Katie (01:14:43):
Mm-hmm.

the window, and you're like, holy shit, there's
no coming back from this.
I love that.

Katie (01:14:52):
Yeah, it was, I don't know.
I, I always, I still kind of have ananxious feeling watching that scene 'cause
I'm like, oh, what a shit way to end.
Such an epic day.
You're gonna be in so much trouble.
You know?

prompted Cameron's like sort of coming
to
like,

Katie (01:15:07):
I did.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.

talk with my dad about not pushing me around anymore.

Katie (01:15:13):
That's a good point.

what was gonna happen to him.
It sounded pretty bad, but youknow, I mean, love the camera.
Were you more like of a Cameronor a Ferris when you were in?
Well, growing up I was Ferris all the way.
I didn't understand Cameron at all.
I was a Cameron.
Oh, okay.
For sure.
Now as an adult I'm like, well, he's theonly character in the whole movie that had
an actual arc who changed at NNA capacity.

Katie (01:15:38):
Very good point.
Yeah.
He was so cute that, and I,I was like watching it like,
there's no way you're 29.
He looked 18.

He looked really young.
I love that bit that he was doing whenhe was talking to Rooney early in the

Katie (01:15:53):
Mm-hmm.
His suspenders.

but you're an asshole.
Asshole.
An asshole.
me sir.
God dammit.
That shit is so funny to me.
Apparently they said thatwas like something that some
inside joke with bro and.
Rock, like it was, they were doingan impression of the director
they worked with on Broadway.
Oh,

Katie (01:16:13):
Yes, you're right.
yep, yep.
yep.

me sir.
God
dammit.

Katie (01:16:18):
was an inside joke.

so good.
Well, the physical comedy thatRooney and Grace had during that
whole sequence was just hysterical.

Katie (01:16:25):
Oh.

Passing the phone, running around, back and forth.
Yeah.
Call Rooney, calm down.

Katie (01:16:31):
Uh,

Oh,
Oh, so good.
It's so good whole, thatwhole sequence is funny.
Oh my God.

Katie (01:16:39):
So I'm so glad.

credits?
Oh,

Katie (01:16:41):
Oh,

whole, like

Katie (01:16:42):
dude.
The

through the
credits.

Katie (01:16:45):
I,

hadn't really seen that before.

Katie (01:16:47):
well,

That's, that's the first time I can remember that.

Katie (01:16:50):
because I feel like I probably always saw this on like
TBS or TNT or something, and theyprobably skipped past that to get
to whatever the next movie was.

Uhhuh,

Katie (01:16:58):
I totally forgot that bus scene

that

Katie (01:17:01):
and
the post credit scene when Ferris is like,

good.
It's like you're still here.
What are you doing here?
The movie's over the movie's over,
yeah.

Katie (01:17:10):
go home.

so good.

Katie (01:17:12):
I love it.
There's been a lot of post credit scenes.
Did you guys remember theone in the Great Outdoors?
There's the Raccoon Post credit scene.

Yeah.
I do remember that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I haven't seen that movie in a
long time.

Katie (01:17:22):
Mm-hmm.

Oh, that's with, uh, John Candy

Katie (01:17:24):
Dan Roy.

Dan Aykroyd.
Thank you.
Yeah, I was trying to sayEugene was part of me.
Was that another
John

Katie (01:17:28):
Yeah.
Just recently covered it.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
The Great Outdoors,

John Candy.

Katie (01:17:33):
John Candy.
Mm-hmm.

The other one that I loved is Wayne's World,
is they, they're talking, they'rereading the name of the credits.
Yeah.
And then it comes to the end, it'slike, oh, that's the end of the credits.
what are we, what are we,what are we gonna do here?
We just are, they just gonna fadeto black over top of us, and then it
starts fading back, like, oh, yep.
There it
goes.

Katie (01:17:52):
I haven't seen Wayne's World in forever.

Post credit.
It was the one, one of the captainAmeriCorps is like speaking to the kids,
and he is like, you know, sometimesyou wait for a really long time for
something and then it's disappointing.
I don't remember that at all.
He is like, well, allright, goodbye everybody.
I was like, oh, that was whatthe Ferris Bueller thought.
Like, Oh yeah, what are you doing here?
The movie's over, just leave, go home.
Well, then of course, Deadpoolfamously spoofed that at the end

(01:18:14):
of the first or second movie.
Oh, he did the Ferrisbiller ending, didn't he?
Mm-hmm.
And the robe and
everything

Katie (01:18:20):
Oh, really?

of the Deadpool movies.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He like with the, maybe with thetowel on his head or something.
Yeah.
Well, he, yeah, he was still incostume, but he was like, everything
else was like, I think they rereplicated the hallway exactly the
same.
Yes.
He

Katie (01:18:30):
I love it,

robe.

Katie (01:18:32):
and everything.
Now, did you guys ever put I alwayshad long hair, so this wouldn't
work, but did you guys ever do thetry and do the mohawk in the shower,
like share, like Ferriswhen you were growing up?

hair.
That was the length that you could do
that.

Katie (01:18:44):
Hmm.

Yeah, yeah, No, I, I never did.
But I mean, I did have hair at that age.
But you weren't always.
Yeah.
You weren't always.
But, uh, no, I, I never, itnever occurred to me to do that.
You just never, it never came back.
Never came back.
You were born this way.
Yeah.
That's it.

Katie (01:19:01):
What do you guys think about a potential sequel?
Are you glad we don't have one?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

I'm, I'm I'm so over like
the whole

Katie (01:19:08):
Mm-hmm.

thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, when I heard that theywere doing a second spinal tap,
my heart died a little bit.
You know?
I, mean,

Katie (01:19:14):
I
mm-hmm.

I hope it could be good, but I don't know.
They keep wanting to do the twins Yeah.
Sequel with Eddie Murphyfrom the triplets.
That Beverly Hills cop moviethat came out was like, whatever.
It's just, but you don't,no one, no one wants this.
I guess it's just a payday for
everyone.

Katie (01:19:30):
Mm-hmm.

Yeah.

Katie (01:19:30):
For sure.

I don't,
yeah,

Katie (01:19:32):
Well, this one,

for Paris Bueller.

Katie (01:19:34):
I hope not.
Well, they'll probably remake it.
That's really more like kidsI don't know if a bunch of 20
somethings even know about, likethese movies that we hold so dear.

Yeah,

Katie (01:19:44):
So that's like the remakes re

raised you.

Katie (01:19:47):
Yeah, I know, I know.

these movies?

Katie (01:19:50):
it, it is it's disheartening.
Who was I talking to recently?
I think I was guessing on anothershow, and this guy, like our age
was talking with some not even thatyoung, like 30 year olds maybe who
hadn't seen Dirty Dancing I'm like,what the, how's this possible?
But.
No, I didn't read about a potentialremake or sequel for Ferris Bueller

(01:20:14):
now, but there was, I guess, originallyone planned where Ferris is in college,
and I'm so glad that they didn't.

Now it would need to almost be like Matthew Bro's.
Kid,

Katie (01:20:26):
Oh, for sure.

Bueller's kid, you

Katie (01:20:28):
Mm-hmm.

that.
Well, I

Katie (01:20:29):
Mm-hmm.

know what the movie could be.
I mean, because as we'vebeen discussing so much of.
The whole premise of the movieis completely unacceptable in
today's culture.

Katie (01:20:38):
Good point.
Phone calls, all the call tricks.
All like a lot of tricks via calling.

Right.
A video wouldn't work.
Well, I mean, not just that,but like the behavioral stuff.
Like when Cameron, in histheoretical catatonic state
was actually watching Sloane
change and she

Katie (01:20:54):
Mm

okay with it.
She, she's like, oh, you goof,
you know?

Katie (01:20:57):
Mm-hmm.

that kind of thing would never be acceptable.
And you know, the, know, again, like
the, the

Katie (01:21:04):
Do you speak English?

Yeah.

Katie (01:21:06):
thi like things like that yeah.

there's so many, there's so many strange
aspects, uh, that were okay in the
eighties that

Katie (01:21:14):
Mm-hmm.

okay now.
And the idea of a kid skippingschool and it being a good thing,
I feel is even almost Oh yeah.
Culturally not okay anymore.

Katie (01:21:28):
Parents are, I'm not a parent.
But as I witness parents are verymuch more hands on with their
children's, like school stuff,

Yeah.

Katie (01:21:41):
know?
Like they wouldn't be unaware thathe skipped school at nine times.
Yeah.

Yeah.
I mean, I, it, it wasbelievable for me 'cause I was a
latchkey kid.

Katie (01:21:49):
Mm-hmm.

wouldn't,

Katie (01:21:51):
Eighties.

you know,
until, until I was a little bit older.
And then when I gotinto high school Right.
I was just a home
alone by

Katie (01:21:56):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.

you know, for a period of time she quit her job and she stayed
home to take care of my sister and me.
But then when I got into highschool, then she went and she started
going back and doing work again.
Yeah.
And so I would walk home from school,I'd make myself like an early dinner.
I'd do my own homework, you know, so I wasa straight up latchkey kid in high school,
eighties kids with two working parents,I feel like was a whole different world.
Yeah.

(01:22:18):
Like a pre cell phone
world.

Katie (01:22:19):
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.

could what was I watching recently?
I, I watched big recently.
You know Tom Hanks
big?

Katie (01:22:24):
Oh yeah.

like, hi, maybe not his character, but his, like his buddy
character goes off into New York Cityon his own one day when the parents
are like, just be home by four.
Right.
And you can go off intoManhattan on your own.

Katie (01:22:37):
yeah.

Never found that unbelievable.
No cell phone?
No way to contact them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's crazy stuff.
No, I know.
I mean, like, uh, yeah, it's just likethat and the fact that I don't know a kid
who doesn't have find my iPhone turned on.
Oh, yeah.
Right.
And they're just constantlylinked to their parents at
every second of every day.
I don't even know howyou would make the movie.
It would.

(01:22:58):
Yeah.

Katie (01:22:59):
No, you can track your kid, like I think you can track where they are.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.

Home Alone, where it's like a kid gets left
home alone by

Katie (01:23:07):
Oh my God.
Never,

right?

Katie (01:23:09):
never.

yeah, I don't, I, I hate remaking, like movies that are perfect.
Yeah.
Like If you wanna remake a movie, remakea movie that you could improve on.
It's like, oh, this was a good idea.
Or re-release the original ifyou want to cash in on that idea
again.

Katie (01:23:25):
Yeah.
That's a good point.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.

my feelings.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They'll

Katie (01:23:29):
is.
I feel like
there are some, there are I, butagain, it's the exceptions to the rule.
There are some I didn't even know, andthis is me, being the new generation that
didn't know, like Cape Fear for example.
I did not know thatthat was a remake like.

The remake was much better than the original.
It was, yeah.
That's why I think you take amovie that maybe, I feel like
Cape Fear probably was well known.
Yeah.
But you can take a movie thatwas like flawed the first
time.

Katie (01:23:56):
Mm-hmm.

a better version of it.
For, for me, the, the best example,and this is partially a cultural thing,
I thought the Lady Killers, the, theCohen Brothers remake was much better
than the Peter Sellers original.
Oh, I never saw the og.
Yeah.
the original was a, it was, it was aBritish crime comedy, Alec Guinness
and Peter Sellers, and a bunch ofother British acting luminaries.
And it was just, you know,it was a bunch of talented,

Katie (01:24:17):
Mm-hmm.

actors getting together, making a silly movie.
And it was good, you know, but theAmerican version brought a, a lot
more of an American style to it, andI thought it worked a lot better.
Okay.
Yeah.

Katie (01:24:29):
I kind of forgot who, who was in that again?

Clooney, right?
That's all I know.
was
uh,

Katie (01:24:34):
No.

Simmons.
was, uh, Matthew Fox.
Wasn't that Clooney?
It was Tom Hanks.
Oh, Tom Hanks.
and who else?
It, I mean, it was
just a, a

Katie (01:24:42):
Mm.

way.
Yeah, yeah.

Katie (01:24:44):
Okay.

way, yeah.
It was it wasn't Jamie Fox.
It was one of the way brothers.
That's right.
But yeah, it was like a cavalcadeof Celebr Coen Brothers movie.
Yeah, it was Cohen Brothersmovie, and I thought it was
way better than the original.
What about like the Oceans 11 remake?
The, the, oh, the remake is way better.
Amazing than the
original.

Katie (01:25:00):
I never saw the original.

me neither.
All like Sinatra.
It's, yeah, it's, it is a
rat pack

Katie (01:25:05):
Yeah.
Okay.

in it.
Yeah.
But like it one, theyremade was like a perfect
movie.

Katie (01:25:10):
Yeah, so there are exceptions, but

yeah.

Katie (01:25:13):
know, I guess I just hold a lot of these like eighties movies,
so dear.
Yeah, like the Breakfast ClubFerris Bueller's Day off.
Please don't, we don't,we don't need a, yeah.

I agree.
I agree.
Yeah.
I feel like they were recentlytalking about asking one of the people
behind, back to the future like.
A sequel or a remake and I feel like thedude told the reporter, go fuck yourself.
Or like, or like, go fuckyourself and you can quote me
or something, or something like
that.
It was like,

Katie (01:25:38):
Oh,

happen.

Katie (01:25:40):
that's great.

That's good

Katie (01:25:42):
That's amazing.

let something perfect to be perfect.
Yeah.

Katie (01:25:47):
I thought you guys might find a, a couple pieces of casting
trivia funny before we head out.
I, so again, because there's veryincestuous the actors in, in these movies.
Cameron, the role of Cameronwas originally offered to Emilio
Estevez who turned it down.
And, and Alan r says,

rat

Katie (01:26:10):
yeah,
it would be funny 'cause thenCharlie Sheen's in it too.
Anyway Alan Ruck says that every timeI see Emilio, I want to kiss him.
Thank you.

Did Alan r not have like the longest neck in the
world?
Yeah,

Katie (01:26:23):
He did have a,
he was like a tall

you're watching.
You're like, wow, that's a long neck.
That's a prodigious
neck.

Katie (01:26:30):
pro pretigious.
Also, okay, so for Cameron, I,John Candy, I guess auditioned
for the role of Cameron.

No, that couldn't be.
That would be a weird
one.
That'd be

Katie (01:26:44):
I,

trying to play a high schooler.

Katie (01:26:46):
I mean, granted

Cameron was

Katie (01:26:48):
Ruck was 29.

29.
Yeah,

Katie (01:26:50):
John Candy was probably, maybe close to that age, maybe a touch older.
But obviously producers turned him downbecause he was too clearly too old.
But that would've been a very,

You're four.
Yeah, sir.
You're
35.

Katie (01:27:05):
Oh my God.
And then for Ed Rooney, theprincipal from the Breakfast
Club, Paul Gleason was considered,

Would

Katie (01:27:12):
mm-hmm.

same character?

Katie (01:27:14):
It's too similar.
It's literally.

to be the same high school where they are?
All these stories meantto be happening in the
same high school I

Katie (01:27:20):
Yes.
Yeah.
I, I mean, yes.
Yeah.
Schirmer Schirmer High.
It is,

ghost schirmer billboard.
Like banner on the wall, onthe high, on the hall in this
movie.

Katie (01:27:30):
The hallway scenes were the same hall, like it's the same filming location
as Breakfast Club hallway scenes too.
And like the police officers say Schirmerpolice or Sheriff or whatever like it is.

Okay.

Katie (01:27:43):
Yeah.
Also, Tom Scar was considered,I, I really, even though
Jeffrey Drones I don't know.
I, I like him for Rooney.
I think he's a good Rooney.

comedy actor than either
the, he does

Katie (01:27:55):
Mm-hmm.

you never get tired of seeing him get his comeuppance.

Katie (01:27:59):
Good point.

speaks to how well he
played the part.

Katie (01:28:02):
Mm-hmm.

he is running after the little tow truck and he gets his
keys stuck in the, in the door andthen it drives off without his keys.
just like, or when his footgoes in the mud, all that.
It's just working.
'cause I feel like you,you hate him so much.

Katie (01:28:15):
Good point.
Good point.
And he's like such aunique looking person too.
So Ferris Bueller, it wasa blast revisiting it.
Even though when I was a kid, I, Ijust went with it more and now I'm like
it's impossible to do all those thingsin Chicago, so it's super unrealistic.
However it was so, so fun.

(01:28:35):
And I would highly recommend Kevin,you have to do a Ferris Bueller's
Day off tour when you go to Chicago.

Okay.
Yeah, I wanna go to the museum for sure.
'cause all the Picassos and stuff.
Yeah, it looked
amazing.

Katie (01:28:47):
The museum's awesome.
Also, just it's thearchitecture in Chicago is.
Epic.
You have to do anarchitecture tour on the river.
It's yeah.

I need in
Chicago?

Katie (01:29:00):
Oh, like a month,
but a month.

Okay.
Okay.
I'm ready for it.
Yeah.

Katie (01:29:08):
But yeah.
Thank you guys so much forjoining me to talk about Ferris.

you.

Katie (01:29:12):
Good pick.
Speaking of which, do you guys haveany , closing thoughts on this fun
movie, Ferris Beers Day Off and 1986?

Yeah.
I mean, it's, it's a classicdespite some of the stuff that,
the, baggage that comes with age.
I watched this movie constantly whenI was a kid, and I said, when, when I
watched it again, I remember literallyevery scene in the entire movie.
There was not a part of the moviewhere I'm like, oh, wait, I don't
remember that being in here.
Yeah.
I, I feel like they don'tmake 'em like this anymore.
Yeah.
Great movie.

(01:29:42):
I would recommend it toanyone who hasn't seen it.
You gotta watch it.
I mean, it's so good, but go in withoutthe baggage of 21st century culture.
Right.
Because it's one of those, it'slike, just, just kick your feet back.
Yeah.
And enjoy the ride.
And don't worry about it.
How unrealistic it is.
It's meant to be that way.
I think keep it assuperficial as possible.
Don't look for subtext, becauseit really isn't any, it's
like, it's the teenage fantasy.

(01:30:03):
Right.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.

Katie (01:30:06):
point.
Remind us , what's next on six degrees.

So we're finishing up Lionheart now.
Um mm-hmm.
And then, uh, and we hope to have youon, you can hear more of Katie's thoughts
on Dolf L's, abs, his, his, his Trapsand his, his texts and everything like
that

Katie (01:30:23):
Oh, I can't even wait.

air coming soon.
Yep.
Yeah.
Check out, show down in Little Tokyo.
If you haven't seen it downin it's Tokyo, it's gotta be
streaming.

Katie (01:30:31):
Mm-hmm.

and get yourself,
Prepped.
for
acclimated six degrees.
That's right.
With Ka.

Katie (01:30:37):
Yeah, you guys, and if you enjoyed this episode of
Retro Made, please let me know.
Email me, comment on YouTube,Facebook, and I would really
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That's the best way that you canlet me know that you liked the show.
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