Uncle Buck | S2E2 - Retromade

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(00:04):
Where do you live?
The city.
Do you have a house, apartment owner?
Rent.
Rent?
What do you do for a living?
Lots of things.
Where's your office?
I don't have one.
How come?
I don't need one.
Where's your wife?
Don't have one.
How come?
It's a long story.
Do you have kids?
No, I don't.
How come?
It's an even longer story.
Wait, my dad's brother.
I'm your dad's brother already now.

(00:24):
Buck.
Russer had always been theblack sheep of the family.
I'm stunned that I'm relatedto you until one night Buck.
We have a problem with the kids.
We're stuck for somebody to watch them.
Oh, please not that Can I trusthim, my brother, for God's sake.
I won't let him get into that Satanstuff or any of the new chicks.

(00:45):
I'll leave that for me.
Wow.
I'm kidding.
Now he's making them breakfast.
Cigar, no thanks.
Making them lunch
and making them crazy.
What did you do?

(01:09):
He is irresistible, and I wanna askyou why I'm so attracted to you.
I, I wouldn't even guess at that.
Whoa.
Oh, he's unbelievable.
I'm Anita or God.
I'm Buck melanoma.
Molly Russell's wart.
He's would you, John Candy as Uncle Buck.

(01:30):
What does he like to drink?
I've been leaving the toilet seats up.
Is that what the blue water is?
It's not good for him, huh?
Uncle Buck.
The new comedy from John Hughes.
You have much more hairthan your nose than my dad.
Nice of you to notice I'm a kid.
That's my job.
Coming soon to a theater near you.

(01:52):
Hello.
Hello.
I'm Katie and this is RetroMade, your pop culture rewind.
is season two and youare in for an epic ride.
John Hughes, Shermer High and beyond.
Today I have two returning guestsfrom last season, Scott and Steve.
Thank you for coming back to do thisJohn Hughes season with me on Retro Made.

(02:14):
Tell us what's new with you guys and
thank you for asking us.
Yeah,
Oh my friend over there, theolder, the older gentleman.
across the pond.
Go first.
Go ahead, Steve.
Give her a little information.
We're halfway through, we're justover halfway through dropping a Bruce.
Our Bruce Willis straight tovideo, or straight to disc,

(02:37):
straight to streaming extravaganza.
as we
The STD, the Bruce WillisSTDs, so we're just, we're just
over halfway through on that.
Which is Been a bit of an ordeal, Scott?
I think it's
Yeah, it's yeah.
You know, I think we've, I'vesaid it on a couple of places.
It's sad because we're watching a hero ofboth of ours as a kid, you know, grow up.

(03:00):
I mean, Steve and I've talked about it onour men of action where, you know, whether
good or bad, the, the movies of the 80skind of informed what male role models and
what we thought men were supposed to be.
And Willis as John McClane isprobably the biggest example of
Stallone's awesome, but Rambo andSchwarzenegger, those guys aren't real.
That's, that's like, it's like anaction figure type of life that you're,

(03:23):
you know, only very few can attain.
John McClane from Bruce Willis feltlike we could actually be John McClane.
And to then, obviously, obviously Ido Church with Tarantino, then to have
him in Pulp Fiction, and now to see,you know, now that he's longer able
to act anymore, And now we're reallyat the point where we're watching

(03:43):
the aphasia really peek through.
It is like watching it's, you know, Iknow probably some of your listeners
or even people, maybe yourself,but dementia sucks for the people
who are obviously going through.
We have no idea how they feel,but to watch a loved one disappear
before your eyes is very tough.
And that's kind of like whatSteve and I are going through.

(04:04):
We're having a good time watchingthe movies and, you know,
having our fun times with it.
But at the same time, we're watchingour hero disappear before our eyes.
Like just, just disappear before oureyes and that's kind of a sad melancholy
kind of trip, you know, I mean,
Yeah, it's bittersweet.
it, but you're kind of like, man,you know, I mean, it's like somebody
is going to be like, Oh my God,it's John McClane at the end.

(04:25):
I'll say it's like, do I'vebeen faking it the whole time.
You know, I'm not, I'm being meta.
I'm a, he's Andy coughing it where he'sjust like, you know, it's a whole bit.
It's just.
Bruce Willis is now kind of gone,
Yeah, it's bittersweet.
It's bittersweet.
Definitely.
through, I mean, I
We're just just over, aren't we?
to be like, you know,

(04:46):
if they're anything like wherewe're in shit show centrals, what
they are, they are, they've been
There's been some we've hada few surprises this week.
You know, currently, butit's been a rough, it's been,
two was
it's getting rougher and rougheras it goes, but You never
know what you're gonna get,
never
you know, you never know, so.
Or who's going to be in them.

(05:07):
That's the fun part too.
It's like, you're like, how didthis person, you, you kind of find
like these careers of what I wouldsay, like CW stars or the WB or,
you know, shows over in America.
You're like, Oh, those guys werepopular back in the early two thousands.
And now you're like,what did they ever do?
were
This is what they did.
That's what they were in.
They found a new life there.
Super fun.

(05:27):
Yeah.
Awesome.
Oh, my
yeah.
yes, Scott.
You said you have a church of Tarantino.
Oh,
in season four.
Now it's basically a weekly podcastbecause I've got psychological problems.
It's the only way to get throughwhat we're going through.
You and I, Katie here and
Ignorance.
It's a, just kind ofput your head down and
true.
that your little bubble is allthat's around you and you just

(05:49):
hmm.
grin and bear it, white knuckle it.
hmm.
You know what?
I'll be honest with you.
This is not to be glib.
I sometimes right now, I kind ofwish I was in Bruce Willis's shoes.
He's having a great time.
He doesn't know what's going on and it'sprobably the best way to live right now.
I know this sounds terrible, but he's not.
Yeah, it is.
But you know, so that's going reallywell and then Steve and I also,

(06:11):
we also have the men of actionand we are halfway through season
three,
but season two of the, of theshift to the men of action and
we've been having fun with that.
So,
We're going through some, we'redoing a lot of sequels at the moment.
yeah,
them against each other, you know, notThat's that's been surprising as well.
I've had some

(06:32):
kind of doing some, what you do.
We just so far February episode.
We have to Eddie Murphy's where wedid another 48 hours and we did,
Beverly Hills Cop too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mmm.
it's that nostalgia.
You we've learned that sometimeshow we remember the movies.
We'll probably talk about from good luckand what really happens in the movie.

(06:53):
sometimes not the same anymore after30 plus years of of remembering them.
So yeah, fun journeys, fun journeys.
We, we enjoy it.
It's, it's always been aboutthe conversation for us.
So we just kind of enjoy each other'sballs, busting the balls that people made
these films and having fun with them.
And then like it.
Awesome.
If not
you all should tune in.
All their stuff will be in the show notes.
So

(07:13):
Oh, thank you.
So we're going to go back to1989 for the time capsule.
wish we could.
Is this real?
Am I being sucked through my computer?
Please.
This is really good.
We're going to 89.
Oh
to 89 and I have put a new spinpun intended on the time capsule.
So let's start by openingit from August 1989.

(07:37):
OkaY.
Ooh.
This is high tech.
12
Categories in the retro madetime capsule for season 2.
So, I'm going to, I'm going tospend on your behalf, you guys
Thank you.
see what we come up with here.
What did we get?
Oh, it's on
Oh, oh, stars and scandals,

(07:57):
Ooh.
OKay.
Their rise was meteoric.
Their downfall even swifter.
One moment they were winning awards.
The next their voiceswere called into question.
A single technical mishap exposed atruth they could never recover from.
Who were they?
Milli Vanilli.
All
Yes.

(08:18):
All
your hand if you actuallysaw Millie Vanilli concert.
I know.
I did My father
Oh.
and they came around here in thesummer one time and he had tickets.
So, you know, this is before we knew thatthey were, there was the rumors that they
were lip syncing, but at the same time,most pop bands at that time, because
they had so many choreographed stuff.

(08:39):
A lot of it seemed like they were lipsyncing anyways, you know, was it was
hard to tell if you're getting, yeah.
And so we went to see them and Ithink young mc opened for them.
young emcee
I
Respect to young MC.
I'm a fan.
so yes, I have seen here's the thing.
Whatever happened tothe real people saying

(09:00):
Right?
Like the people who sang, the real voiceswas what won, the guys pretending to be
didn't, shouldn't, what about the people,I mean, where's the real Milli Vanilli?
That's the, that's the E!
News special I want to see, is whathappened to the real people who sang?
They were, they shouldhave won all these awards.
They just, were they that ugly?
How ugly are the people who sing?

(09:21):
friends you guys smelly cat smelly cat
Yes.
are they feeding you?
Yeah.
like I said, who's where are those people?
Those people should bemaking millions of dollars.
They want awards.
They had award winning voices.
Mm
Are they that ugly and deformedthat they can't be seen in public?
Deformed?
That's
I don't know, man.

(09:41):
why?
I mean, you've got, you've got platinum
Yeah.
who also, you know, winningGrammys and all that stuff.
And they were selling millions of records.
I'm more
to be them did.
concerned with the fact that you wentto see Milly Vanilli more than anything.
I feel like I don't know you anymore.
I don't know myself either.
You know what?
I was the first domino thatstarted America's downfall.

(10:06):
Oh, man.
Batman?
to
have some bangers, theydo, they have some bangers.
Whoever they are, they were good.
Yeah, they were, that was fun.
That was a fun time back then.
right, you guys, this is the next one.
Fad flashback.

(10:27):
Okay, so in 99, several fadsand cultural phenomena left
a lasting impact on society.
What movie premiering in June23rd, 1989, became the highest
grossing movie of the year.
It's success was a lot ofmerchandise and kind of ushered

(10:48):
in an era of blockbusters, Batman.
That's good.
When?
Yeah, that's right.
Batman.
Yeah.
The PR and the Prince asthe did the whole album.
Yeah, that's right.
album.
I, I, the Prince has,
Oh,
I got, to see Prince.
That should, that shouldbalance things out.
But he didn't do a single songand this was like early nineties.

(11:09):
Not a single song from thebat out from the Batman album.
got some pretty good songs on there.
He just said
I realized Prince did that album.
album.
All I know is,
album is him.
I think, I know Sean from Sean ofthe Dead did not like that album.
Didn't they use that tothrow at the zombies?
Sean from Sean, then go fuck himself.
All right.
How dare he besmirch the great prince.

(11:30):
All right.
No, I love Prince.
today.
Yes.
I saw that.
The dirtiest song thatever got past the FCC.
Mm hmm.
When you think about the lyricsin that song, sometimes you go,
What song?
Little Red Corvette.
Oh, right, yeah.
Yeah, I do.
I'm aware.
I
in her pockets.
Some of them used,

(11:52):
Pocket full of
pickers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Pocket full of horses.
Some of them use, she's
of
got pictures of the drackiesthat been here before.
Prince was a genius at writing
Mm
lyrics that people didn't realize.
You know, you're like, Hey, in theback of the car, singing the song.
And as I got older, I'm like,Oh my God, it's disgusting.

(12:13):
right.
Let's see what else we got, you guys.
Oh, tasty
Is that
89, maybe.
This snack offered a three footlong roll of fruity, chewy candy
providing a playful and tasty treat.

(12:33):
the,
that are very
similar.
is that the fruit roll up footlongor is that something else?
So what I know of is fruit.
The fruit roll up had thefoot long rollout thing.
Fruit by
is this something?
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Fruit by the foot.
and then similarly
You're not missing out, Steve.
It, it'll destroy your intestines.

(12:53):
this gum became a favorite amongkids for its unique packaging.
And fun factor, very similar.
What was it called?
Is this Big League Chew?
No, it was like, it was
Or the candy cigarettes?
no, the long it's similarto fruit by the foot,
oh, is that the bubble tape?
Bubble
tape.
Bubble tape by BubbleYum or whatever it was?
Bubble tape.

(13:13):
Listen Steve, we're theking of sugar over here in
know, I'm just a, I'mjust a spectator here.
I don't know, I'm not familiarwith these, I'm afraid.
on our flag are made of?
Fucking sugar, bitch.
That's why it's white.
It's fine.
It's fine.
All right, let's let's go.
Let's do what?
Let's do
You
1 more.
should make a whole episode of justdoing these to the 12 questions.

(13:37):
Oh, we already did flat
We already did a fat flashback.
on, man.
Unbelievable.
It's rigged.
Elon Musk is messing with it.
Oh,
prime time rewind
this is perfect because in1989, I'm a couple years
younger than Steve, but I'm in.
14, 15 years old now.

(13:58):
So now, you know, like I'm alittle bit older, so I can start
staying up a little bit later.
You know, I know a little bitmore about the TV at this point.
Then I like 1983, I'm a little kid.
I don't
yeah
still don't know enough.
okay, patriarch in colorful attire kepthis household in check a sharp witted
matriarch led her working class brooda familiar gathering spot thrived on

(14:21):
laughter and loyalty , young mindssought wisdom with historic walls.
And everyday blunders became must see TV.
What 5 shows kept audiences hooked in
I, the last one is Oh my God.
Why it's AMV America's funniest videos.
My funniest home videos.
Is the Cosby show in there?

(14:43):
it was the first one, the Cosby show.
Yeah.
was the second one?
Sorry.
I thought you were reading one whole show.
So what was the second?
sorry.
You're good.
A patriarch and colorful attire.
We got that 1 sharp witted matriarch,let her working class brood familiar
gathering spot thrived on laughterand loyalty young minds thought
wisdom within historic walls.
Roseanne's second one?
Roseanne, yes.

(15:03):
Third one cheers
Yep.
There's
and then the fourth one.
Is that a I feel like thisis a game on Nickelodeon
Prime time.
No, it's prime
Oh Prime time, okay
Prime time.
So young minds first in historic

(15:24):
Jesus Is this young Indiana Jones?
No, it is not.
Steve, rethink.
What was the is
Historical and what was it?
Sorry.
it the
We're
different
Young minds sought wisdomwithin historic walls.
Steve is getting there.

(15:46):
different world?
No?
That was
from the Cosby show,
the Cosby show.
All right.
Hey,
that show.
I know some things.
Yeah.
I,
Nice, nice.
That was good.
That was good.
That was fun.
You did pretty good.
You did pretty
We got up our game now, Steve.
We got to have some kind of game now.
All right, damn it.
Season
I I like that.

(16:06):
I, I dug that.
That was fun.
Season four, we're gonna haveto have some, some games.
Mm
We're gonna, we're totallygonna steal from you.
I'm just gonna
You might well trademark that.
give you a little hint.
This is from Katie from the RetroMade.
It's a lot more work to to
yes.
Yeah,
I
Steve can do it.
He's gonna do something around here.
Huh?
What, what, what, what?

(16:27):
shot myself on the foot.
All right, you guys, thisseason is John Hughes.
So I got to
Good choice.
at what point did you realize that JohnHughes was the mastermind behind so
many of these iconic 80s and 90s movies?
Probably mid to late nineties Ithink, again, I'm not trying to

(16:47):
it feels like, in the nineties.
We started to realizethat there's directors
Mm
as opposed, because I feel like alot of the times in the nineties
or the eighties, it was actors thatwere kind of leading everything now.
Of course, we know Spielberg, right?
So Spielberg was like themainstay, but you're also younger.
So that's how, you know,Spielberg, Scorsese.
I didn't know who that was until I wasin In the nineties, Coppola, you know,

(17:08):
I learned about these guys becausenow it's, you know, the all tours.
I think a lot of the Tarantino esquepeople with the, the independence
movement in the nineties helped us nowto appreciate directors and not just go
to movies for Stallone, Schwarzenegger,Willis, you know, because that was
kind of how everything was made back inthe eighties, at least the adult fair.

(17:31):
So I didn't know what, you know,I knew the John Hughes movies.
I didn't know it wasjust John Hughes, right?
It's like,
Mm
Ferris Bueller and all these ones.
You don't know that it'shim until a certain time.
So I think I learned in the early 90s.
the movies I liked from John Hughes,as opposed to knowing when I went
to the movie, Oh, it's this JohnHughes, his new movie, you know,
that kind of, that kind of feeling,

(17:53):
What about you, Steve?
Did you
Hmm.
So,
or?
so at the time of Uncle Buck, I was 17.
Mm hmm.
I'm trying to think.
Let me just, I think probably Ithink I was probably aware at that
time, but only just, I mean, 'causewe'd add I think with Ad Ferris

(18:16):
Buhler and a few other things, so
I'm not trying to be a smarty pants.
But, I think at that time,I was quite aware, I think,
Does
make sense.
And he had already by this time,because he was really known for when you
think of John Hughes, a lot of peoplethink of the Brat Pack type movies,

(18:39):
his earlier teen, teen type movies.
And then he, he transitionedinto more like family friendly
yeah, so so yeah, and Breakfast Club,
Mm hmm.
aware then, but I think by Uncle, by UncleBuck time, I say, you know, I mean, maybe
it came out in 89, I might not have seenit in 89, I might have seen it in 1990, so

(19:01):
I was like 18, 17, 18, I think by then Iwould have put the pieces together, so to
speak, but that's just, yeah, I think so.
a lie, but it's fine.
We can lie to the
I, I didn't know he directed DunkleBuck, to be quite honest with
you, I'm just, I'm just riffing.
No,
when,
that would have,
at some of this stuff, yourealize that he actually wrote

(19:22):
more than he directed, which is
right.
I think the, a thing that not a lotof people probably realized is that,
yeah, he, known for a lot, but alot of it is as a writer, you know,
we just assume he's always been thedirector of these things when you're
like, Oh, no, he's actually written.
I mean, I'm looking atthis thing right now.
He is the 1980s teen movie, right?

(19:42):
Like it's, what's the 16 candlesbreakfast club, weird science pre
and pick Ferris Bueller's day off.
Some kind of wonderful.
She's having a baby, you know,and then he starts to move into as
you were saying Steve like Planestrains and automobiles the great
classic.
Yeah,
or if which was vacation He writesthat home alone, you know, he starts
to slowly more into that I mean someflubber like there's some of them.

(20:06):
I'm like he did that,
Mm hmm.
know, Dennis the menace likeyou go What he wrote those so
I mean, I'm mainly, I was mainlytalking about him as a director.
I, you know,
No, I know, but I
yeah, but yeah,
as John Hughes, right?
Like it's
Mm mm.
yeah, he didn't direct it.
But can you tell me who thedirector of some of these are?
You're kind of like you go, JohnHughes, you know what I mean?
That
Yeah.

(20:26):
for you.
John, John Hughes, right.
Or a director.
What'd you want to be like?
There's only like a handfulthat he wrote and directed
Yeah.
this
is Uncle Buck is so let'slet's get into Uncle Buck
Hmm.
August 16th, 1989.

(20:47):
is PG.
Yeah, it's PG.
I don't know.
We'll talk about that.
7. 1 IMDB.
And yep, he wrote and directed.
If you guys have not seen Uncle Buckin a while, first of all, go watch it.
Come back.
Yes.
it follows the story of Buck Russell,a carefree, unemployed bachelor
who is unexpectedly called upon tobabysit his brother's three kids

(21:10):
when a family emergency arises.
Initially seen as irresponsible andout of place Buck struggles to connect
with his teenage niece, Tia, whilemanaging the antics of her younger
siblings, miles and Maisie through hisunconventional but well-meaning ways,
but gradually wins them over provinghis loyalty and love for the family.

(21:32):
So it's very, like a kind of amovie trope, but I don't know,
again, in 89, I don't know.
Like Mr. Mom, also written by John Hughes,but there's a lot of movies that followed
this similar , classic fish out of water
Hmm.
where there's an unlikely caregiver.
But I think maybe it was this one ofthe earlier ones that we watched anyway.

(21:56):
If it's not one of the earlyones, it's one of the best ones.
That's for sure.
And then.
John Candy.
And I mean, I've watched it againtoday and I've probably watched
it in probably three decades.
It's probably been almost that long.
I forgot how funny this thing was.
Hilarious.
Like I remember watching it going, whyare we making more comedies like this?

(22:17):
Like all the comedies we havenowadays kind of suck a lot.
And this was, I mean, just brilliant.
It was just funny from start to finish.
I forgot some of the gags that were in it.
we'll get into home, but likewith the clown, there's just
certain things that happened.
Just kind of like, Oh myGod, I forgot that happened.
Oh my God.
And McCauley Culkin.
my God.

(22:38):
my, this is, I mean, this is wherehe, anyone who thinks he just,
you know, started home alone.
No, no, no.
You got to see uncle buck.
McCauley Culkin earns unclebuck, of that through uncle buck
there was so much it's hard tobecause it was the next year home
90.
1990,
Yep.
we'll cover on
this show.
But several points.
I was like, oh, my God, that's so similar.

(22:59):
Beat for beat.
Home Alone stuff, like where he'swashing the dishes, where he's like
that rapid fire Q and A with John Candy.
Was there, there was anotherone too, where he's I'm a kid.
That's my job or something like that.
It was very
He doesn't know the wordfor balls and he goes
nuts.
It's just, Oh my God.
It was just so funny.
I mean, it was so good.
I forgot they were just so much fun.

(23:21):
Those movies are just so much fun.
And now that you're an adult you know,Disney has done this for forever.
And my kids are now of an age wherethey now have realized the adult
theme jokes that are slid into akid's movies that they have no clue.
just some of the, the
The washing machine bit.
machine bit.
And even at the beginning where they'retalking about the word crap and shit,

(23:43):
with, it's just so much fun is happeningin this film that I, I kind of, it made
me really nostalgic for the eighties.
I really was like, I miss these kindsof movies and I miss John Candy.
think, think know, I know a lot ofour, cause you know, he's, I guess
you'd be boomer generation really.
He's not technically Gen X andeveryone always, you know, laments
about Chris Farley dying too soon.

(24:05):
John Candy.
Is a genius comedian oh, I mean,you didn't realize, you don't
realize how big a hole is left inthe universe you see him again.
You go, my God, this man was just.
know, you'd have to do anything special.
It didn't do any Pratt falls.
He's a big guy.
You'd have to fall down and break a chair.

(24:26):
You know what I mean?
And, you know, play on the fat roll.
He just was like, he just had great
I mean, every, every second, everysecond he's on the screen, is just
joy.
Just fun and amusing.
He doesn't,
It's effortless.
yeah, when he, even when he'sdoing natural things, there's just
something about the guy that we all,yeah, we had a terrible loss really.

(24:49):
Cause some of my favorites, youknow, he was, he, he did a couple of,
yeah,
did a couple of dramatic, he did,
yeah.
you know, he did a couple of.
Home
I mean, that's my, that's my.
Plain strange.
So is there a modernequivalent to John Candy?
Do you guys think?
I know Chris Farley, toyour point, probably got
but more of a pratfall guy, youknow, I think John that was his big

(25:12):
claim to fame and he was good atit There's no doubt about it, but
I don't know that there's a guy who
is this warm and inviting as a funny
I think, I think comedy issuffering right now though, right?
love to have an uncle buck.
Mm
I wish I was an uncle But youknow to me like I'm kind of
like I'm gonna I want to be
I think,
you know I mean, I want to be on the buck.

(25:33):
I've got to be honest with you, whenI was watching it today as well, and
I hadn't seen it much like Scott, Iprobably hadn't, I'll say, it's been
at least 20 years since I've seen it,
but yeah, I think there's, there's,comedy is suffering right now,
and I don't think there's anyonereally like him, of his calibre.
Right now but then I wouldsay that in general comedy is

(25:56):
not in good shape right now
Maybe there's not as good awriter as John Hughes either
Mm
know,
That's it.
you know, I mean, you know, as youand I will talk about, or I talk about
mine, Tarantino and the muses he has,sometimes you get the best performances
out of certain actors and then theygo into another movie and you're like,
Jesus, this person was in the same movie.
And when you, I mean, John Candy inand of himself, he doesn't need John

(26:18):
Hughes, but when you get a guy who'samazing at writing comedy and you've
got a guy who knows how to delivercomedy and you put them together,
you're going to get gold and you gotfricking gold from almost everything
John Candy and John Hughes do together.
Right.
Agreed.
You know,
I, I agree.
I think it depicted, I hadn't seenit in a while when I watched it
yesterday, I forgot how it openedand it's just a very ordinary family.

(26:43):
It depicts family dynamicsand like bratty teenagers and
and
today because I went through that withmy daughter in the late 2010s and it's
just, I mean, I was like, holy shit.
There's my daughter on the fucking screen.
Like it's, mean, you know, I didnotice this when she walks down
the opening shot of her walking.
She's in leggings.
That's an outfit thatexcept for the hat, maybe.

(27:05):
That's an outfit that you wouldsee kids wearing today, right?
I was kind of like, Jesus, thisdoesn't really age too poorly because
that's kind of like what somekids are wearing nowadays.
Although,
point.
the fun about John Hughes movies ishe always has these Chicago suburbs
and I like how the daughter's like, wehad to move from Indianapolis because
mom and dad couldn't afford things.
I'm thinking, you actuallymoved up because I think mom
and dad are making more money.
I've been to Indianapolis and thesuburbs of Chicago are not cheap and

(27:28):
you're in this giant fucking house.
I'm thinking, I think you'redoing pretty okay there, Tia.
I think you better stopbeing such a bitch.
You're doing really good.
they also depict the the parentsare so focused on their jobs
Yeah,
present.
that's the 1980s, right?
Like it was kind oflike, that's my parents
So,
when the kids, when thehockey season ended.
oh, my God, that's right.

(27:49):
I forgot about that.
And then they get, I would have lovedto get take out more, but we didn't
like, we, we had home cooked meals.
God forbid,
Yeah.
Hmm.
Hmm.
what a, what a wonderful dinner.
Mom take
I think
out
I think saying it I think weprobably watched a hell of
a lot when we were younger.

(28:09):
I think
I do.
in that
quoting this quite a
in the sort of home
came back,
In the sort of home video area, I thinkand at the age we were all roughly out
at that time We probably did rewatch.
That's why I mean when I
I hadn't seen it yet for over 20 years,but I felt like I Watched it a week ago

(28:30):
That was so familiar.
I was waiting for all themoments that, that I remember.
I knew they were coming, youknow, because that's, that's
sort of ingrained in my mind.
So we must've seen these filmsa lot when we were younger.
So, but yeah, it was John Candy though.
I mean, like I say, every minutehe's on screen, he's just gold.

(28:51):
He really is and he'slike, he's 1 of those guys.
No.
Seems like a genuinely nice personto, you know, not scandal, no scandals
Yeah, I've never heardanything to the contrary.
You've never hear anything like,Oh, Jesus, what a drunker, what a
Mm hmm.
was, you know, he just,
it's John Candy.
Candy.
of Canada's great exports.
yeah.
Wow.

(29:11):
Oh, don't
There's no tariff on him.
So he plays Buck Russell.
Let's talk about some of the other cast.
So the teenager Tia, so she's a brattyteenager, and she's really who he.
The, for the most part of themovie is really butting heads with
Tia played by Jean Louisa Kelly.

(29:32):
did you guys recognizeher from anything else?
Like she wasn't in a lot.
I
I know she's been in some things Icouldn't place her because the movie I
know her definitely from is obviouslyUncle Buck, you know I mean, I know
she's she's one of those kids like evenher boyfriend bug in there I know I've
seen him before in some 80s movies Butif you put him in a lineup, I couldn't
tell you which one, you know, so

(29:53):
It's funny because she also,aside from this, she's most
known for playing the mom.
Named Kim in the TV series.
Yes, dear.
hmm.
Mm
early mid 2000s.
And so now I was trying to look forit yesterday when I rewatched it.
So that's who she is.
Maisie, the daughter.

(30:13):
Like this, so, so
the teenage daughter Tia is like 15 thenMaisie is 6 and she's played by Gabby,
Gabby Hoffman and , she has gone on to
Yes, she did
quite a few things, but she wasalso in field of dreams now and then
200 cigarettes in the, a couple ofTV series girls and transparent.

(30:36):
She's in a number of other things,but she has gone on to have.
Fairly well known career.
And then Macaulay Culkin
Who?
the
Who's this guy?
I don't remember him.
He
Is He related to Kieran?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think, I think it's his brother.
Yeah.
Quintessential 80s, 90s kid is

(30:57):
I can't stand him.
really?
Steve?
Oh, fuck it.
as a kid actor?
I just hate him.
I just don't like him.
My heart.
Do you know what?
I'll be honest with he,
to hang out with MichaelJackson and you didn't?
Is that what this
he,
Is there some selfishness?
I'm certainly not.
I dunno.
I dunno what it is.
I just do You know what I actually, Iactually, one thing I didn't remember

(31:19):
about this movie was that he was in it.
And
Really?
I love
I,
it.
and as soon as I saw him
I was like, oh no.
like
I don't know.
But hey, you know,
Macaulay Culkin.
probably, yeah.
It's
I loved him in this.
Yeah.
noted, I do not, I, I also don'thave kids and just generally,

(31:39):
they kind of annoy me, but
IT.
oh, my God, I don't bless you, Scott.
I don't know how you do it.
I don't know either.
I must be on some kind of drugsI don't know what I'm taking.
What age kids do you teach?
Fucking middle school 12 to 14.
Yeah, it is.
It really is.
It's tough.
It's it's a tough go
Oh,
That's why I have no hair.
I mean I knew early on Iwas like not gonna need this

(32:03):
This will do me no good.
I think it's an 80s thing.
And again, I always feel like, likethe cranky old lady that is like,
oh, things were better in my day.
But like the kids in this, I actuallynoted because I am largely annoyed
by children in movies and TV.
Generally, and in theworld, they were good.
I was
I thought so.

(32:23):
I thought the two younger.
I thought candy and the two youngestones Their interactions, I thought
were a really, really great.
I mean, you know, it's sometimes you,you know, you get some kids in movies.
And like you said, you'relike dragging planks of wood.
You're like, why is this kideven in this fucking movie?
Who do they know to get him in this film?
especially when it's not a kid'smovie, steve hates this movie, but

(32:45):
like the Goonies, that's a kid's movie.
And so these kid actorsare acting together.
So that might be easier for them.
But when you've got John Candy you'vegot to know at the time to nobody's and
they're going to act with him, I thought,
I mean,
good.
I
back and forth with candy and MacaulayCulkin at the table, do you have a job?

(33:05):
Would you live in a house?
No, I probably wouldn't have a job.
It's just, you go to the back and forth.
You really, my brother, dad'sbrother, you got more hair.
It's just kind of like the rapid firewas really a fun, you know, thing.
And then the little girlwith her sister comes in.
You said a bad word.
Crap.
No, it's shit.
You know, the whole backand forth with them.
I thought they were really good.
Steve probably hates him,you know, he hates everybody.

(33:25):
So it's okay.
No, no.
I dunno what it is.
I, I just don't like that kid.
And, having said that, I mean, he's,he's fine, he's good at what he
does, don't get me, I just, there'sjust something about him, just,
you.
not for me.
Mm hmm.
What did you think of Shanicewho plays John Candy's girlfriend?

(33:47):
Or, I mean, Shanice is the character's
Yeah.
Who has she been in?
I've seen her before.
She's been, she feels like, feelslike she's been in everything.
She's such a familiar face.
Yeah.
She's one of those eighties.
Just, Hey, that's that person again.
Madigan is her name and, andshe's a, I believe on Irish.
I mean, her last name is Irish, butI think she's like from Ireland.
Okay.

(34:08):
she was also in field of dreams
Yeah, she's been in a hell of a lot.
his wife.
and
Yes,
gone baby gone.
Like
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
And she was nominated for an Oscar.
I haven't seen this, but she wasnominated for her supporting role
in twice in a lifetime in 1986.
Six.

(34:28):
I know that one.
she's married to?
Very famous actor.
And they've been married since 1983.
And I did not know this.
This makes
No, I do not know.
It's not Kevin Costner.
No.
Let's see the Gene Hackman.
No.
He just turned 95 the other day.
Oh, no, no.
no.
It's somebody her age range.

(34:49):
Dan Aykroyd.
the eighties out.
Ed Harris, who I dig.
I
Oh,
yeah.
yeah.
Ed Harris.
Wow.
Isn't
He's also in Gone Baby Gone.
Yes.
is he one of the police officers?
Yeah.
one of the people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't wanna give away forthose who haven't seen it.
Mm hmm.
But
really like

(35:09):
it
It's a great movie.
Mm hmm.
one of Ben Affleck's first directorialdebuts, if I'm not mistaken.
that was his first, I think.
And I like
Great.
Affleck more than
he's had some, he's had some offthe, off the field issues, but
Oh,
Steve and I like to separate,Steve and I like to sep,
he?
when that Me Too movie came out, he gota few things, but, Steve and I like to,

(35:32):
you know, we separate, we separate what,listen, I know Michael Jackson has done
some terrible things, I know he has.
There's levels to this stuff, though.
music
I mean,
but I love his music.
So I don't, I don't want tohave any, you know, he's dead.
He's long gone, but, and what he did ishorrible, but his music is still, it's
Yeah,
good.
But, but Kay, but Kay, CaseyAffleck, I mean, Manchester by

(35:53):
the Sea is just an amazing film.
He's done some good stuff.
He's good.
He's, actually, he'sgreat in Gone Baby Gone.
he and Ben Affleck will bein the new Dunkin commercial.
I know Steve doesn't care, butthey've already talked about
it, so that looks pretty funny.
I did like his spoof.
Oh, that was great.
Vanilla, what was it?
Vanilla Nuts, Vanilla Nut Taps.

(36:15):
I know some things.
I know some things.
I just, I know, tangents all overthe place of us, we're a nightmare.
I like a tangent.
But, but getting back from the
Yes,
Just kidding.
Uncle Bok, not the Affleck Brothers.
So the parents in this didn'tlook familiar to me, really,

(36:36):
The only person who looked familiar wasthe brother, the one with the curly hair.
He'd been like a father in anotherMovie or two he looked for me.
I couldn't tell you his name, butthe mother not but Buck's brother had
been to some things I know in the 80s.
I just can't
can't place him.
his name is Garrett M. Brown, andhe did a lot of TV work, so he was

(36:56):
Okay,
Sisters Trouble, I don't know whatthat is, and then the movies Kick
Ass and Kick Ass 2, and then the
he was in kick ass.
Really?
Huh?
I'm
know.
Elaine Bromka plays Cindy the mom.
She also has, she's more known for a lotof her TV work, most notably playing Dr.
Reicher on Days of our Lives.

(37:16):
That's who she is.
And then one
probably knows her
I adore Lori McDuff.
She plays the the they're
the unhinged neighbor
She's from Roseanne, she'sRoseanne's sister, right, in the,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
that's
she is
She is great in this.
I love her.
This was one of her first movie roles.

(37:37):
I was
She kills it.
her name in the movie is Marcy
Marcy.
And I loved the little frost ismy, my married name, but we got
divorced, but I kept the hyphen.
Everyone loves the hyphen.
Yeah like we says, I didn't, I haven'tdropped the frost and he's kind of looking
there because she's kind of frosting.
She was going, he's going,seems seems to track

(37:57):
Oh, my God, she was awesome in this.
I loved her outfits were I was,I was like, I would wear those.
She had some great outfits in this movie
the fashion.
It's weird.
You know, things, as Isay, things come around.
because now 90s
some of the fashion stillstays on point a little bit.
I think we've kind of thecircle back around, you know,

(38:18):
Yeah, it happens.
cars and certain things would definitelygive off, but you could definitely,
you could sell some of this as amodern day movie and be hard for
some people to tell us, you know,right off the, right off the bat.
And then you had mentioned, you're likeI've seen bug to his boyfriend in things
before he's played by Jay Underwood he'smost known for the boy who could fly.

(38:40):
okay.
All right,
And apparently you guyswill think this is funny.
I did anyway.
He's not an actor anymore, I don't think.
He is a megachurch pastor.
Tracks.
That's
has a mega church pastor face.
He may be on the same track as MichaelJordan or Michael Jackson, not Jordan.
does have a megachurch pastor face.
that.

(39:02):
Yeah, we'll just leave it there.
I don't need to go sidetrack anymore.
Yep.
And then just gettingthrough the stats here.
The music was done by Ira newborn, which Inot heard that name before, but apparently
he collabs quite often with John Hughes.
so he did a lot of songs for movies,like 16 candles, weird science,
Ferris Bueller's day off planes,trains, nominal automobiles, and

(39:26):
then some very nineties movies, mallrats, and Ace Ventura, pet detective.
I love Mallrats.
And it's for George Floyd Detective.
I really, I really enjoyed the music.
It really worked.
This R& B, blues infused,fused thing he was doing.
I really, really enjoyed it.
You know, uncle buck has this likelittle, like a Tom drum thing that

(39:46):
almost like young and see that roomdoom, doom, doom, and just, I don't
know, worked, worked really well
It?
was
as as his like thing.
Yeah.
That was Tone Loke, yeah.
Actually, there's some of the old songs.
I mean, being someone who, I kindof grew up really into hip hop.
And there's quite a lotof songs in the movement.
I'm like, that's a sample from this song.
That's a sample from that.
That's quite sort of, but, you know, 89.

(40:08):
That was pretty sort of on point.
You know, he's pretty ontrack with some decent stuff.
I was thinking that whileI was watching it today.
I was like, Oh, I recognize alot of these songs that have
now been sampled, you know?
And then, yeah, that'sthe tone loke things.
Yeah.
15 million to make this movie.
And it grossed nearly80 million worldwide.

(40:30):
in 1989 for a comedy.
That's really
Not bad.
Yeah.
summertime to about that.
Cause it came on August.
Yeah,
I mean, we're in summertime,you know, American cinemas,
I mean the world now, but.
tentpole season,especially in the eighties,
Yeah.
I was trying to remember,
setting up, we're sending out, youknow, whatever to whatever the new
Schwarzenegger, whatever movies supposedto be coming out that timeframe before,

(40:51):
you know, the superhero takeover we've
yeah, I was trying to, I was,
it to go to 80 million
I was trying to remember if it, Ican't even remember that hitting
cinemas here personally, butI'm, I'm going back a long way.
So I don't know if I, if it was, ifit was straight to video here is what
I'm thinking that might have been.
I'm not, if it, you know, sometimesI talk about this with Scott where

(41:17):
I live in a quite small town.
I don't live in London.
We don't all live, youknow, we're not all London.
of
No, no, I know, but it's
tiny.
not far from the truth, but sometimesI'm like, yeah, certain things don't
make it to my neck of the woods.
So, and I can't really rememberif that hit there is here.

(41:38):
Plus
I say here,
I mean, what a, what a suburban movieabout, you know, Chicago family drama,
you know, really land in England.
Like what, what a movie from your
yeah, I'm sure maybe in,
hit
maybe in the cities, it was maybe on fora week or two, but I don't remember it.
I grew up in a small town too in Nebraska.
So like middle of the country.

(41:59):
So by the time things got to me, It was
a decade had
Oh, okay.
Oh, no, you can, you can relate then.
Mm hmm.
Mm hmm.
Yeah, sometimes I mention thingsand people are like, what?
Really?
It didn't?
And I'm like, yeah, maybe in, maybe inLondon, but we're not all from London.
That's like when I say I'mfrom New York, everyone
Yeah.
So, you know, Manhattan.
Yeah.
city and just, Yeah.
I'm from New York.

(42:19):
The city whereabouts
Yeah, not the same.
It's not the same thing.
But yeah, I was trying tothink, I couldn't remember
if that hit theaters there.
Yeah.
That's still not bad, 80 mil.
1989. Like I said, in the summertime
you,
a family comedy,
know, you go, you,
movie
Maybe so you go with inflation,that's probably a few hundred
million probably, I guess.

(42:40):
I mean, in American inflation,I was like 3 billion.
I think they would have made
a couple of, a couple of
eggs or 19.
All right.
I'm just saying if eggs were 25 cents.
I've only been hearing aboutthis today, I mean, I've only
been hearing about the egg thing,
in
only been hearing about theegg thing today, I don't really
know what the deal is there.
you.
Don't worry about it.
Just be glad you're in England.

(43:01):
Be glad that
Steve?
glad you cut because theyhave better news than us.
He's
only heard about, I only, I don'tknow what the egg thing is, I,
I actually only heard about ittoday, so I don't really know what,
this point.
Oh, price the eggs.
the smart people with the red hats votedfor the hot dog skinned guy she was

(43:21):
brazier eggs and they've actually gonethrough the roof in this three weeks.
So
Yeah.
Yeah.
racism is costly.
And America's findingthat out the hard way
Oh man, foamed up a can of eggs here.
I
eggs in the can might be asmart thing if you got that If
egg.
There's or tofu.

(43:41):
You don't need eggs.
don't
Anyway.
Always noticed the fashion cause Ialready brought up Lori Metcalf's
Did you notice Uncle Bucks?
This is the first timeI really noticed it.
His rings
Yes, you had like the bigold class rings and stuff
and
I didn't know this.
Yes the old the old elvisthe old elvis horseshoe

(44:02):
hmm.
Mm hmm.
I just there's just so much the attentionto detail that They have on these
films, especially, you know, even thewhether he's the writer director You
It's, know, it, you just don't realizeit until you go back and watch it again,

(44:22):
and I think it's what informs, nowthat Steve and I are on the SDD
journey, you can, you can instantly finda movie that's just direct to video.
No one gave a shit aboutit because it's missing.
All the accoutrements that come with areally great designed film from that,
that the plate, the China plates, theway they have everything hanging over

(44:45):
the sink or, I mean, over the stoves,little thing, the way he dresses,
the stuff they do, everything has aplace and it means something like.
When Marcy comes over, or when theycatch, or yeah, she first comes to the
door, the toys on the stairs going up.
There's just this thing that says that,that, that one, mom and dad are gone.

(45:06):
Buck is there and he'snot exactly a clean freak.
And so you could start to see the homeslip into this decay of like clutter.
And that is really smart.
Most, you know, crappy shoots wouldjust wouldn't even think about that.
It would just make this realclean, sterile environment.
And they'd walk in, you'd be like, Oh,this feels like a play at a high school.
And it's, it's just, there's just evenwhen she's talking with them, there's

(45:30):
little crumbs on the counter fromhim, not cleaning up after breakfast.
There's just these little touches.
That as you watch it more you start tosee the real craftsmanship and why these
kind of movies last the test of timeAnd you just are like they just feel
like a warm blanket sometimes becauseit reminds me of like watch it today I
felt like I was back in the 80s Like Ifelt like my parents like I was in my

(45:51):
living room watching this on a VHS Likeit just felt like a Sunday morning 1980s.
And this is what I was going towatch and just, I don't know.
They're just man, it was a nice,you know, what we're going through.
It's a nice warm blanket to kind offorget about for about two hours.
It really was.
you're brought back to that.
Yeah.
Like Chicago Suburbs, the house.
Like it, yeah.
It's very comforting.

(46:12):
It's like you're in this world nowyou're in the John Hughes world and
Yeah.
is on a diet at the moment.
They're massive pancakes.
They look good.
Oh, my
I forgot that he uses the snow shotfor God, he flips with a snow shovel.
What?
I couldn't
I don't know what that
the griddle part?
a fun things like Blackstone things.

(46:32):
They've got in the market.
May uncle buck was first.
God damn it.
I don't know where he got this griddle.
The griddle took up the Island.
I don't know where this was made.
know what that was.
Was that a car door or something?
I didn't recall.
I remember that scene that he flips apancake, with the shovel and the gag
of that, but then I totally forgotthat there was an entire stack.

(46:55):
Giant
Yeah, yeah,
on
the table.
That was awesome.
So
I was just like, oh man,
sausages for days, you
yeah, I
on the
mean the amount of eggs he musthave used for them pancakes, guys.
God.
And
Oh!
prices as
Sorry guys, I didn't mean to upset you.
there's thousands of dollarsin groceries right there.

(47:16):
Oh my God.
I'd be for it
now.
I loved
the
tiny urinals
Oh, I was going to say that whenhe needs takes a knee, I forgot.
He's
the funny thing is, is, is nowadays.
If a grown man walked into alittle kid's bathroom, what a
fucking alarm bell would go off.
But he just kind of like looksdown, sees his little feet dangling.
He's like, I think he's in the bathroom.

(47:36):
He doesn't know where to put his cigar.
He's
Was that urinal thingreally an issue though?
Couldn't he have just
He's in an elementary school.
So
No, but you could just, you just,
he's a big guy.
What is he?
Six, four, three 50.
Like
It would
I
just, here's the thing.
It was just a great gag, right?
It's a
No, no, I get the gag, I was just abit like, wait a minute, can't he just

(47:57):
Aim.
aim?
True.
Use the sink like a real man.
take a sh take a shit in thesink like a normal person would.
Come on.
Jesus, what is this?
Do schools have tiny, you know,I literally, I've never been in a
Yes, if you're
If you're
little,
Yeah, especially like when theyhave kindergarten like that.
They do have lower because theycan't gonna clean pee off the floor

(48:20):
I
The little boys aren'tmaking higher urinals
if the stall, like the toilet stall, you
so some of the schoolsaround where I'm at they
that's what I use for the griddle.
That's it is the bathroominside the classroom, but
they have little tiny toilets
Oh,
it's still, it's still at their heightbecause again, you're going to be
cleaning the pee for days or poop.
I mean, it's just these kids can'tget an inch up under the seat.

(48:43):
You're in trouble.
You're going to have of a lotof yeah, a lot of janitors
coming in every five minutes.
that
just use a urine.
Look, Ken, it looks likeNiagara Falls broke in there.
I love speaking of that.
I love when they're on the phone or he'stalking to us to ask a few questions.
How's your plumbing there?
Do you have a blunt shirt?
Yeah.
She's just like, Oh God.

(49:06):
I
That's before she's even left.
Think that's before they've even left.
I think he says thatbefore they've even left.
Oh,
allergy?
an allergy?
Oh my God, I can't believe I haveto leave my children with you
that's what the blue water's for.
Oh, my God.
Leaving the
and she's crying.
I'm so glad you're there with them.
Oh, that, that, I
toilet seat up for the dog.

(49:26):
I love the fact that how they decideto, you know, to do the, the whole
interchange where he asked, youknow, how many times you feed a dog?
And she could have just said it,but the best part is when she
goes how many times do you thinkyou're supposed to feed a dog?
I just love that.
Just, it's just a great way ofhow you just change your dialogue
to add for the comedy, right?
Because we know that he's,when he asked it, we already

(49:48):
know he's overfeeding the dog.
We all know that's what it's leadingto, but her than having him tell
her how much he thinks he shouldbe the dog is where we get the fun.
It's like four times.
It's just one, just one.
Oh, that'll, that'll explain it.
And it's like the pee in the lawn.
Which
of the blue water.
It's so good.
also a time because I have a feeling,I don't know, maybe it's just me,

(50:09):
but I think most people feed theirdogs twice a day, at least now,
I think they say that you're supposedto feed your dog when you eat.
I think that, you know, like someexperts say like you're, so if your
dog's on a schedule and you sit downto eat, the dog eats, that's where
there's no begging at the table.
When you're done, then the doglearns that, okay, now they're done.
Kind of, kind of thing.
So you, the two dads would grab breakfast.

(50:29):
Dinner and then, you know, peoplecould stay home I guess three times.
But that in the 80s, I feellike it was really normal.
You fed your dog once a day, you just
Yeah.
food in the
bowl.
And Yeah.
I
Yeah.
The dog was cute.
Also with him sleepingwith the kids and from
Yeah.
to the
floor, everybody, including thedog ends up like on him cute stuff.

(50:50):
a great uncle.
Like he may not know anything about kids,but like he is really his street wise
is really kind of what these kids need.
Like he's, you know, look, he's doing thegreat thing where he's making McCulloch
cook and wash the dishes and, you know,just put a hair in your chest kind of
thing, you know, that kind of mentality.
But at the end of the day,he really is building thing.

(51:11):
He's more involved with them thanhis, their own parents have been.
Oh,
And I think that's what really ends up.
And eventually what finally bringsTia around, because she's just
angry that they left in Minneapolis.
She's just pissed that at herage, she has to start over,
but yet she's also learned how to be.
She's also learned how to takecare of her brothers and sisters,
Mm
this it's funny, it almostfeels like Tia was the oops.

(51:34):
Child the other two are the onesthey plan like it was like to you.
Oh, we
That's,
made it out of high school
She's why they got married.
Yes, exactly the other twoare like hey, let's have kids
Yeah.
That's a really good
Cuz she's like what a juniorin high school, whatever it is.
And these kids like kindergarten orfirst grade you're like boy Those kids

(51:57):
good with them.
I noticed that too because I relatedto the, I related to Buck because I
don't have, I'm kind of the crazy auntlike Buck oh, I'm hung over today, but
I made it to your game or whatever.
play with some scissors go run around
But I wouldn't be as good as but like he'sso good at relating to them because he's

(52:18):
kind of a big kid himself I suppose but
He,
I'm the same.
I think I'm a bit like that.
mm
Candy's
I'd be a bit, I'm a bit likeLook, I get shit done, you know?
Mm
not do it the
May not do with
the
on, but it gets done,
Hey!
No, I no, but I I get stuff I get stuff

(52:40):
to mow your lawn without pants?
Listen, all
It's hard as balls out here.
balls are sweating, oh dear lady.
I mean my nuts!
Sorry, sorry, we're sidetracking
Crap!
No, I think John Candy, I don't know.
He just feels like that.
Every man that you would look atwas supposed to believe is inept

(53:00):
to be able to watch his kids,but he's the perfect person.
He's the perfect person to race.
He's like the original.
What's the one with Robin Williams?
He pretends to be the nanny.
Why am I blanking?
Missed out fire.
He's like the Mr. Doubtfire is like, Hey,
Mm
I'm just going to do this.
I don't know if this is the right wayto do it, but we're going to do it.
And he's making a breakfast.
He's, I mean, for this kid'sbirthday, they don't even know when

(53:21):
his birthday is, what he wants.
I guess getting them sticks.
Not like Jesus Christ.
They put your ass.
I did
Pancakes more pancakes thaneven the neighborhood could eat,
you're just kind of like, man,what a fucking awesome uncle.
He's
kind of like I did kind of like thedrying the clothes in the microwave.
Fancy it.
Cause he,
as the girl goes,

(53:41):
He
can't get open the goddamn drive.
Oh, it's a quarter.
Why don't you go down to the corner andget a retina of that thing off your face?
Oh, fuck melanoma.
No, because that was
about
Yeah
Yeah,
because when I said that to you, Iwas like, that is from that, right?
Because if it wasn't, you'd have beenlike, what the hell is he talking about?

(54:04):
I
But,
proof, but I feel like the mole thingfrom this movie is what led to the
joke of the mole on Fred Savage's face.
In the Austin powers movies wherehe just can't stop saying mole.
yeah,
like this was the Genesis from it.
Like I just really do.
Cause one of the most memorable scenesis him flipping that quarter to her and
tell her to get it not off her face.
yeah.
But that sort of thing,

(54:25):
of that joke.
that's like the thing in the SteveMartin movie, Roxanne, as well,
where they're like, don't look at hisnose, you know, and then You can't
not look at his nose sort of thing.
That's the same sort of joke, but,but yeah, when I said that to you,
cause same, I hadn't seen the moviefor like over 20 years, that was the
first thing I thought of when yousaid uncle Buck was Buck Melanoma.

(54:45):
I thought,
completely forgotten about it.
yeah, but that is, that's a great, that'sa great scene though, as well, talking
about what a great uncle he is and whata sort of good provider he really is and
his, you know, his character says a lotabout his character when he stands up to
the teacher and says, Gives his littlespeech about her being a dreamer and all
that, you know, she's like, she's six.

(55:05):
boyfriend.
Oh, yeah, but when he sayslike she's six, you know,
yeah,
she's cool.
She's a dreamer.
Of course, she's a chatty little girl.
She's six,
I know.
you know, so
There's a lot, there's that typeof scene in a lot of this kind
of a movie, like the, you know,the unprepared child care has to
yeah,
then they stand
up to some, you know, what's going on.
authority figure.

(55:26):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah,
her school career.
Seriously.
He's like, she's
love it.
I'll go in there and soften her up for ya.
Oh,
he's just sat there

(55:46):
And Scott, you were going to bringup what he does to Tia's boyfriend.
I mean, now, granted, thatwould probably land him in jail.
Right?
Maybe, but you know what, what parentis going to disagree with that?
Right?
What a dick, what a douche, youknow, it kind of taught him a lesson
kind of thing, you know, he knew.
Look, we all, it's funny whenwe're in that age group, right?
When we're, we are teenagers, weknow exactly how we're thinking.

(56:08):
Now we get older.
That's like when we become protectivelook, I know what the wolf is like.
I was the wolf.
I know how to watch out for this.
You need to watch out whothis kind of person is.
And you know, she's going to T isalways going to fight it because she
is pissed off rightfully so I get it.
Especially for girls, you gothrough a lot and in that 10 year

(56:29):
period of like anywhere from 12to 25, that's a 13 year precious.
It's a, it's a tough go.
It's you, you know, you, you startto go to battle with each other
over boys and who looks good.
And you have so much more pressureput on you in those ages as you're
developing, not only physically,but mentally, like it's yeah.
Most boys are just like, you know,just let's throw rocks at each other.

(56:51):
You know,
jokes
jokes and throw rocks at each other.
Like we don't, we still,we haven't matured.
Look at Steve.
we're still doing it now.
still doing it now.
so to then at the move across countryand also be responsible to not really
the cross country, it's only a couplehours away, but to then be responsible
for your brothers and sisters.
But also I thinklisteners should remember.

(57:12):
No cell phones, no internetphone is all you knew each other.
And once you moved out of town, youwere pretty much forgotten about.
Cause someone else knew came around.
Like you, you weren't callinglong distance to talk for
hours in the eighties.
You out of your mind, howlong that much that costs.
So for her to have to go through allthis and then feel this disconnected,
her parents have kind of only forgotabout her, but are not forgetting about

(57:36):
the brothers and sister, know, and.
So T is obviously going to push, push,push, but Buck steps up for, because
he's just a good, he's a good guy.
He's the funny thing about thewhole movie is we open up with him.
I'm not ready to be a father.
I'd like my own life.
I don't think I'd be good with kids.
And he completely proves that no,you are the one person in the movie

(57:56):
who probably should have kids.
Cause you actually a pretty good rapportwith them and also a good idea what it
is to bring them up and be there for him.
And that was, I think that's whatmakes the movie so endearing.
Yeah, and I like that moment,
it, it's great.
I like that little moment when he wason his own with the dog and he's smoking
a cigar and he's sort of talking aboutwhat people, you know, people used to say

(58:18):
about him having the freedom and being afun guy and all this and now they, they
don't say it anymore and sort of like
something a bit touching to that.
he's realizing,
I mean, how old is the oldestdaughter supposed to be in it,
by the way, because I'm 15.
I think he says
Yeah, so I, so I think obviouslyshe's, so she's in that, every,

(58:42):
every kid that age is in that thing,especially having two very, two brother
and sister a lot younger, is on onehand, you're supposed to be looking
after them, but then your parentsare treating you like a kid as well.
So she's got that, that angst,that teenage angst thing going on.
And, so I think Buck kind of, he knows,

(59:05):
He pretty much reads the signals.
he does
He knows what's going on,
straight away.
You can get pregnant on, on yourparents time, but when I'm here,
you know, something to that effect.
And she's like, he's like,I don't care what you think.
I'm,
Yeah.
He's going to be honest.
He's given it to her straight.
Like when he says aboutbowling, it's been proven.
It's very unlikely to getpregnant at a bowling alley.
Yeah.

(59:25):
Or something like that.
And then his girlfriend hasbeen wanting to get married
and have kids this whole time.
And then finally, by the end, he'slike, why didn't we do this earlier?
And she's like, oh, myGod, I want to murder you
Yeah.
I think it just took him to realizethat he, I think he was afraid.
I think there's a part of it that, youknow, you can read into as you get older.

(59:45):
He knows he's, he loves his freedom,but he knows he hasn't amounted to much.
Although I will say, I will saythis, apartment across from Wrigley
field, he's making some good money.
Like nowadays, that's an expensivepiece of property to have in
shock in the Chicago area tobe across from Wrigley field.
He could have, if he owned that,he could, he's making millions

(01:00:08):
of dollars if he sold that.
But anyways so I think he realizes that.
He hasn't grown up to be much and he'safraid that if he has kids, they're going
to grow up to be nothing because of him.
So I think there's this realI don't, you know, he can, he
bullshits that I don't need to, Idon't, you know, I like my freedom.
I can be able to just put mygolf clubs in the car and go
play golf or bowl or whatever.
At the end of the day, it's a fear thathe realizes he hasn't amounted to much.

(01:00:28):
And he doesn't want to bring kidsinto the equation and let them down
and then them not amount to much.
But then he realizes that, actually,he's the most suited person for it.
Cause yeah, his brother'sdoing better than him.
His brother doesn't even know whenhis fucking kid's hockey's over with
or what to get him for his birthday.
Meanwhile, he's making pancakesthe size of fucking Buicks
and knocking out drunk clowns.

(01:00:49):
Which I fucking love.
Yeah, and protecting the, I mean, he,yeah, protecting Tia from that shitty bug,
Yep.
You had mentioned somethingabout before cell phones.
And
Yeah.
times that he, he, you know, he reallywants to go to the racetrack and he's
always out kind of trying to protectTia and he has to bring the little

(01:01:10):
kids and they're, it's hilarious.
Their conversations,
Yes.
There was, there waslittle adults themselves.
They're just little adults in car seats.
That's really what they are.
but Buck, they're drivingaround looking for Tia.
How did he know where thisparty in the woods was?
Bucks been to that party inthe woods because bucks been
to that party in the woods.

(01:01:31):
I
This isn't bucks.
First time he knows, he knows wherepeople are partying, you know, where
dad is probably more straight laced.
Hmm.
Buck is definitely he smokes.
He drank like the buck has had his time.
He knows, you know, he's been a fun guy.
He even said that.
No,
Doesn't he ask some people?
Doesn't he?
forget.
Yeah.
Does it, does he ask whateverfriends that was the party?
That's right.

(01:01:52):
which was even funnier.
He's like, got a cigar and then he getssomewhere along the line, he gets a
right.
Yeah.
you guys know T guys He's likedrinking with him, and they're
like, what the fuck's going on here?
Yeah,
Oh God, love Buck.
God.
God, I love Buck so much.
I forgot how much Ireally liked this movie.
he's a great, yeah.

(01:02:13):
And the clown,
sorry.
with the
The clown, Mike Starr who plays the clown.
He's been in, he's in Goodfellas.
He's in a ton of stuff.
Cause I actually had to look him up.
Yeah.
Obviously I could recognizehim with all that makeup, but
minute, I think I know this
yeah, I was like, I know that guy, so Ihad to look that up, but he's been in a,
I could kind of tell
he's one of those character actors,he's been in Dumb and Dumber,

(01:02:35):
he's in loads of stuff, isn't he?
But sorry, yeah, that wasjust, I just wanted to,
but my favorite part is it's again,it's just this direction is he gets
punched and he goes back out of frame,but comes back into frame to get pumped.
and get punched again, yeah,
me laugh.
I forgot how much fun.
I forgot the clown until heshows up in the mouse car.
I remember, I rememberwhat was about to happen.

(01:02:55):
And I just, I laughed like I did back in1989, where I thought it was hilarious.
He's just punched him and he goesbackwards and the, Oh, comes right back.
Almost like a weeble
punch him again.
Yeah,
There were a
a drunk,
like that
a drunk clown though,you know, it's classic.
God, it was so good.

(01:03:16):
it was so much fun.
do that anymore.
Like, when he gets hit by the bowling ballthere's a few times where they do that.
Very, it's like a style ofthe 80s comedy that we don't,
we don't really get anymore.
but a good, but a good one too.
It wasn't, it didn't feel like old or ohit was just a nice trope that, that lands.
It's a good comedy bit thatlands as opposed to you know,

(01:03:37):
the old, oh, kick in the nuts.
You know, that's always funny,but you know, certain things like
pies in the face aren't funny.
Yeah.
you're in the context like older films,like you can watch the Three Stooges
do it and it's hilarious becauseit's of a time and you just love it.
But, you know, if I was watchingAdam Sandler hit Rob Schneider
in the face with a pie, I'd belike, what the fuck are we doing?
This is 2025, you know what I mean?
But this Uncle Buck thing, this punch inthe face, go back and go back, it works.

(01:04:00):
It would work now in amovie if we saw that.
You'd laugh your ass off becauseit's just really good comedic timing.
And,
hmm.
oh God, Hughes, and he's dead too.
God damn, we lost both Johns.
yeah,
that's why, that's, yeah,that's why America's, that's
why America's gone to shit.
Yeah, we
lost our threat.
Oh
You're the only parent.

(01:04:21):
what parenting, like if thismovie were made now, what are like
some parenting trends that, that,that Uncle Buck would like butt
geez.
Do you think?
it's funny, him attacking theteacher is very reminiscent of
what things happened today, but hehad a very reason for it, right?
Like she was being overly dramatic withthat principal about a six year old.

(01:04:44):
Nowadays, kids aren'tresponsible for anything.
And so now it's like the parentwill ask you, what did you do?
What did I do to cause your studentto try to stab someone with scissors?
I don't know.
You're a psycho.
I don't know which oneyou want the answer to be.
So, It would be different.
Would the kids be, would they do anythingfun if this movie was made today?
They'll be on their iPhonesare playing video games, right?

(01:05:04):
Like uncle buck would probablybe getting into trouble.
He's probably doing drugs in the
It would
He's just,
would probably
be like the
he'd be at the race.
He'd take, he'd go to the racehorse.
He'd be like, look, kids, here's some TV.
Here's some games.
Good luck.
I'm going to be going to play the horses.
would be a different movie today.
It, I don't think it would work.
I mean, I'm sure we could move it,but I don't, would it have the heart?

(01:05:26):
Would it have the story?
That we need for today, you know,would, would we get the message at all?
Because everyone's all the time.
Like it literally is a screenepidemic that is ruining kids.
Like it's generation coming up.
I try to warn my students.
I know I'm so old man shakes businessguy, but with AI and robotics that

(01:05:48):
are advancing at lightning speed, ifstudents don't have skills, They're gonna
live with their parents for forever.
that's really the truth.
They have no skills.
A lot of things are going away.
I would call fallback jobs, right?
Working at working at Walmart orworking at a grocery store working.
Anything that has like a register nowadaysis being replaced already by either

(01:06:11):
self checkout or gonna be replaced.
Over here in America, at least,McDonald's in California is
already testing out robots with ai.
So you'll need three peopleto work there, the manager, to
make sure no one robs the joint.
And then some guy who can fix robotsand maybe a programmer, and that's it.
So if you don't like school andyou quit, what are you going to do?
And kids these days don'twant to do hard labor.

(01:06:32):
So they're not going to join somebody'sor, you know, they're not going to go
do the old blue collar work because theydon't actually want to do labor work.
So.
This film would be different.
It'd be a lot different.
It'd be like Uncle RobotBuck or something like that.
I don't,
that
don't know.
Trying to get Insta famous or, you know,
Yeah.
And yeah, and you know, probablyTia's probably trying to do that.

(01:06:54):
And then we get some boyfriendwho's trying to get her an
OnlyFans or something like that.
You know, you couldprobably move it that way.
You probably could, but yeah, I mean,even with Buck, would, would we allow
a, you know, he couldn't he wouldn'tjust be able to walk into a school.
There'd be, it would bea different type of film.
And I just don't think would stillhave the same heart And comedic timing
that uncle Buck in 1989 did because I,it's one of those last few generations

(01:07:18):
where you're a latchkey kid, whereyou going outside is something you
do going places like a Chuck E.
Cheese, or I don't know if they havethe equivalent over in the UK, but
going places with your like bowling withyour, your family was something you did.
Like it was a thing we always did.
Like you go out and you want to dothings being stuck in the house.
Wasn't, you know, if you're stuck inthe house, you played a few video games.

(01:07:39):
Yeah.
you watch movies and, you know, you, youplay with your toys and your friends,
and that's not the thing kids want to do.
They just want to go home andplay video games and they just
want to stay on the screens.
And so the fun that we get from the filmof them going places, even kids don't,
I guess it's probably a good thing.
They don't sneak out totry to drink much anymore.
Like it's just, everyone just stays home.

(01:08:01):
know what I mean?
Everyone's social without being social.
They're on social media, but they're notactually Interacting with one another.
Mm
And so it'd be a different kind of movie.
Like I'll go back when I have gofar, use this, find a, find a phone.
Yeah.
yeah,
her in a minute.
She would be able to sneak out anywhere.
wouldn't have to drive around in
No.
to try
and
And the
woods.
generation's gone away, right?

(01:08:22):
I think we were the lastgeneration, at least in America.
I know it's a bit more of American thing.
We're the last of the mall generation.
Really?
Maybe millennials, maybe some, you know,probably some millennials, but after that.
the mall culture is goingwhere everyone shops on Amazon.
I mean, the malls arestarting to disappear.
So that, that, that thing.
mall culture growing up.
I
Oh well, you're in

(01:08:42):
that had like a mall.
Like, That was the thing
Can't spell Mawesome.
Steve.
It's it's they've cornand that corn and Jesus.
I'm just kidding.
I'm not getting into this.
movies but I didn't like,hang out at the mall because I
just didn't live in a big enough city to
Yeah.
a cool
mall like that.
But yeah.
But even that's, you know, it's gone away.
Like the, the, the culture that wesee in the film of students and the

(01:09:04):
teenagers and even the young kids.
Yeah.
It's a, it's almost like we'reon Mars now on the opposite side.
Like kids these days don't haveany idea what that is like.
So it'd be a very, I mean, you knowwhat, if someone could make a new uncle
buck and make it as good and relatableas today, they should win the Academy
Award because that is a stretch, right?
Right.
Like some parents going to flipout about, you're trying to make

(01:09:26):
my kid fat with all these pancakes.
Like someone's going to have anissue with something like that.
Like where it's shot, that ladywalks in, maybe there's a homeowner
with a gun, she gets shot.
Uncle Buck's got an AR 15 and shoots her.
mean, he's smoking everywhere.
Yes he would be vaping now.
Yeah,
it'd be.
It'd be a big vapor.

(01:09:47):
I love, oh, speaking of the,the smoking thing, he's like,
oh, I used to smoke cigarette.
I'm on I'm on a 5 year something I used
Brilliant.
and now
I smoke cigars and then after this, it'sgoing to be a pipe and then it's going to
Chewing tobacco.
Then the gum.
Yeah,
the gum, yeah.
I'm on a five year plan, yeah.
And
The worst thing to, yeah, I

(01:10:09):
looking at him like, horrified.
think she's just you have a fiveyear plan, but it's about smoking.
What's your, by your financial point
there was not a ton of trivia that Ifound about this movie, but exterior
of the house was an actual house.
But the inside was like all of the setswere built in a school gym, their home.

(01:10:31):
Wow.
was
a set, built in a school gymnasium.
That is such good lighting.
Mm-hmm
know.
I know.
It sounds kind of put on my beret andsmoke a cigar, but cause if you, cause
you know, you can, when you see a set ona TV show, you know they're on a stage.
Like you can just feel even no matterwhat, the lighting is, you just know.
if you had told me that if I wouldhave guessed a hundred percent that

(01:10:55):
that was in someone's home and theyjust, you know, they rented it out for
whatever amount of time they neededto shoot, I would not have said that
that was a set that's really well lit.
They did a great job of making that feellike that was in the suburbs of Chicago.
I would have
Yeah, looks like a home.
guaranteed that
like you're inside, you get that feel.
That you're in someone's home.
too.
Yeah
so there's some lost in translation.

(01:11:17):
You know how they renamemovies for other countries?
right.
title, Alone with Our Uncle.
Ooh,
sounds pretty sinister.
how about
I was
that?
Yeah, that's, that's now itis a horror movie in 1989.
Ah, no big deal.
don't know what countries, but Ithink that got lost in translation.

(01:11:37):
The reverse.
Mm hmm.
Alone with her.
She couldn't just say Buck?
Or just Uncle?
That's weird, Alone with her
Well,
our, alone with our uncle.
I missed it, I think, but I guessthere's a, the freeze frame of John
Candy in the ending scene is also usedin Planes, Trains, and Automobiles.

(01:11:58):
yes, yeah, yeah, I remember.
I did not know that.
I'm gonna have to note of that when Iwatch Planes, Trains, and Automobiles.
Yeah,
Did Winona Ryder ever be inany one of John Hughes movies?
Or does he have a thing with her?
Because this could justbe pure coincidence.
But I noticed the elementaryschool's name was Winona.
I
And I thought that way.
I was like, that's gotta be something.

(01:12:18):
Winona, that's like a very specific name.
Right?
Scott, that
felt it.
Felt it.
I just, I just thought that today.
Ryder was the first choicefor the role of Tia.
Mm
look at that.
Every now and again, theold man brings something up.
Oh,
even, I didn't even see that.
her in Beetlejuice the year before,but she was working on Heathers, so she

(01:12:41):
okay.
I think she did the right thing.
Mm
Yeah.
And I think the girl played Tia was great.
I think she, you know, that may be theonly role she ever was really known for.
And, you know, That we all remember.
I thought she was really goodas this bratty fucking holy
I thought she was horribletill the last five minutes, so.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I'm good, but that's,that's a good role, right?
It's just like
Yeah, yeah, no.
you're like, fuck this bitch.

(01:13:03):
I hope McGregor, I hope theythrow her out the window.
Then you're like, man, that'sa really good acting job.
If I, if I have a visceral feeling aboutan actress, I want her dead on set.
You're like, you'redoing a great job, ma'am.
His other muses were alsoconsidered, I guess, for that role.
Allie Sheedy and Molly Ringwald.
Oh, it makes sense.
but yeah.
Yeah, Yeah,
Makes
could have seen that.

(01:13:23):
Rick Moran has turneddown the role of the dad.
Hmm.
You know what?
You've been under used in
not much of a role, is it?
yeah.
I, that makes sense.
So, you know, that's just, yeah,you need someone who's cause you
want, I want to remember John Candy,who cares about the dad, right?
Cause John can is, you know, I'm like,Oh wait, was Rick Moranis going to pop

(01:13:43):
back in here at any time or, you know,like what if Bill Murray was the dead?
You're like, is Billshowing up any moment?
Cause we can have a little comedy here
However, Steve Martin was also considered.
the
for the
Jesus Christ.
What a waste.
dad.
I know but
I guess they'd have gotdone more with it if
right.
You're
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(01:14:03):
That,
fun tongue in cheek moment aboutplaying strange in automobiles.
In that, in the, if hewas the father there for
yeah.
That could have been fun.
Yeah, that could have been fun.
Literally every actor under the Sun.
It seems was thrown around for the roleof buck Like literally like Bill Murray

(01:14:24):
Jim Belushi Dudley Moore Danny DeVitoDan Aykroyd George went Michael Keaton Ed
O'Neill Williams Jack Nicholson Joe PesciTom Hanks Kurt Russell and, oh, I took
Kurt,
Russell.
Kurt Russell.
and
Martin Short were consideredand which is weird.
They were in Captain Ron together,

(01:14:45):
Joe Pesci, a short Italian.
Hey, hey, hey.
Just
to the
kidding.
Hey,
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
you ever see a fucking hatchet, huh?
You little piece of shit.
That would've been great.
Joe Pesci's the best, the bestoption because it's different, right?
John Candy's what, 6'4 350?

(01:15:06):
Joe Pesci's 2'2
2.
foot 2.
pounds, you know what I mean?
DeVito too.
Like he was
And Dudley, and, and you say,did you say Dudley Moore?
Dudley
Wow.
Kurt Russell seems out of place.
How does Kurt Russell as SnakeBlizzcon if he comes in with the
Mr. Relia Mr. Reliable, though,and he could have, it had
just done it, wouldn't it?
It would have been great.
Yeah, I can't say it, but

(01:15:26):
I can see him as you know, Likethe Jack Burton, irresponsible,
fun uncle,
Good point, yeah.
something like that.
But there was 1 actor thatthey were pretty seriously
considering and he's very similar.
I'm curious if you guys can guess it.
They, they were going to actually.
John was considered for another1 of this actor's roles, but
died before he could do it.

(01:15:47):
So the, the role I'm referring to is
This is Tom Deluise.
Oh, oh.
Is it Louis,
who's the other heavy white guynamed Louis, what's his last name?
He just recently passed away.
Oh.
oh.
clearly not because youwould have already told me.
That's him.
not him, It's not him, but he was in,
You know who I'm talking about, right?

(01:16:07):
to America.
yes, yes.
Louis Anderson, Louis Anderson.
It's not him, but it is a heavy white guy,
It's not Dom DeLuise.
So who's the other heavy white guy?
two TV show from 1989.
Oh, John Goodman.

(01:16:27):
Sean
No?
Mm-hmm
okay, okay.
Yeah, because he was heavy set that time.
He, you know, he might've been, he, he
Yeah, he's good.
He's another reliable guy that
don't think any of the people we'venamed outside of maybe some funny
things that could have changed.
I don't think anyone'sbetter than John Candy.
And
No.
Hmm.
that was the, that was the, right role.
I think John Candy was theright, perfect person for it.

(01:16:49):
percent there were TV shows.
There was actually
did see this.
2 2 TV shows.
Did you guys know that?
I only knew cause I waslooking it up today.
I was like, holy shit.
They made an uncle buck TV show.
Like Holy cow.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Hmm.
that was on CBS and it starredKevin Meaney as Buck, a

(01:17:12):
slob who drinks and smokes.
I don't even think I know who KevinMeaney is, then there was a more recent 1.
With like famous people init, a 2016 version on ABC.
was another, it was anadaptation with a black cast with
Hmm.
Oh, Mike, I,
again, I still think heneeds someone heavy, right?

(01:17:33):
I still just, you need,
Epps
need someone who's, you know,you know, like someone's with
some stature, a little bit of,
And
some weight to them.
I think that's what sells theuncle buck personality, right?
Like it just, you know, he, you know,he's not taking care of himself too
much, but it's just, I don't know whatthat, the heavier set funny uncle.
I think that works a little bit better.

(01:17:54):
Not that Mike Epps isn't a funnyguy, but I just don't see Mike Epps
is, you know, You know what I mean?
Neither of these were successful,but, and James Leisure and Nia Long,
like all three of those are likevery well known black actors, but
neither one of those were successful.
You
You know, this, and this is, you know,not against, I think, you know, I think.
I have no problem with that option, butit is, it's a different, we talk about

(01:18:18):
because Tarantino wanted to redo his lastmovie being Reservoir Dogs with an all
black cast, which changes the entire,
Oh,
line of what ReservoirDogs would be, right?
Cause you're now telling it from acompletely different perspective.
Set of circumstances that the I don'tknow what I'm trying to side to into But
when we're shooting at cops white peopleshooting at cops is different than if we

(01:18:40):
would we have waited Till Joe shot likethere's things that now change the tone
of the film when you change the raceSo but does Uncle Buck land the same?
Cause it's a different experience inthe suburbs for black people in America.
It's not the same, you know, it's
hmm.
maybe when you're selling UncleBuck one, does a black audience

(01:19:00):
care about the movie Uncle Buck?
It's not a story that probablyreally reaches out to them.
Cause it's all white.
There's, is there anyblack people in Uncle Buck?
I can't remember.
Maybe in the bowling alley.
I don't think there was.
people in hardly like most of thisis this is actually a criticism.
Oh, is it
just not necessarily Uncle Buck,but now that I'm thinking through

(01:19:23):
Hughes films?
John Hughes.
black people.
of
I, yeah.
I
Well, the 80s, I guess.
Mm-hmm
and I think, okay, so now we got soone is the story going to land with
a black audience because now it'swhat you're selling it to and as a
white audience going to want to watch.
A story that they know, butit's completely different.
Like now it's foreign to them as well.
Not that they can't coincide,

(01:19:44):
Right?
You're
No.
Yeah.
Although
sucking John candy.
And then, you know, nothing gets my guts.
That's those are big shoes to fill,
Yeah.
right?
Those are just big shoes to fill.
The story isn't super unique.
There have been several,
Mm.
Yeah.
That'd be nostalgia,
alone with our uncle and theyturn into a horror movie.
Uncle Buck.
And now,
yeah, you'd be making it, you'dbe making it as on a, that'd be a

(01:20:05):
nostalgic trip for the adults really,more than it would be aimed at
Yeah.
kids at that time.
I mean, we're gonna have to startwrapping things up, you guys.
I can't thank you enough for
Thank you for letting
Thanks for having us.
your show.
Yeah, that's what we do.
it.
What, you guys have closingthoughts on Uncle Bok?
Oh, my esteemed gentlemenfrom the UK go first.

(01:20:26):
Yeah, I mean, it's a classicslice of 80s nostalgia, it's
happy people with happy problems.
So it's that comforting kind of movie.
There's nothing too, nothing tooedgy, nothing overly raunchy about it.
It's a family movie, it's afamily comedy, which I'm not
sure they even make now, really.
You you're not wrong.

(01:20:46):
I don't
You know, and I don't, I think you,you genuinely could sit together
as a family and watch this, and theadults aren't chewing their nails,
thinking, oh, here comes that scene.
Or, you know, I mean, even, even the Thewashing machine scene would just go over
people's, it doesn't matter, it's, it'sirreverent, it's not like everyone's going

(01:21:09):
to suddenly be like, you know, the movies,you know, we've all sat there with our
parents and watched a movie and suddenlythere's nudity or there's something
and everyone feels completely awkward.
I mean, even in like Ghostbusters,there's a scene where a ghost
is giving Dan Aykroyd I mean?
So that you can, there aremovies, there are movies where
That's the
there are,

(01:21:29):
baby
but there are movies where there'sthat awkwardness and because I, but
I think this is one of those movieswhere there's something for everyone.
Like Fatal Attraction
Yeah.
You know, you sit down with your
Hey, yeah, exactly.
But you know, but there'ssomething for everyone in there.
You know, you've got the littlekids, you've got the teenager, and
you've got the adults, and then,and you've got, The uncles and

(01:21:51):
aunties like, ah, so, just, so yeah,
I'm like, I'm
something, something forus too, I am uncle, yeah
real
so yeah,
Steve, to your point about the 1 of thethings I had kind of forgotten until you
were talking about, oh, there's stuff forthe adults, the, the sequence where he's
talking with his girlfriend on the phone,I think, and they have names for her.

(01:22:13):
Yes.
and he's no,
that's what we called your boobs.
And then
Felix, And then we jumpto the cat outside.
Brilliant.
It's the Little Red Corvette.
what it is.
It's, it's, it's, it's how you, youmake an innuendo without hitting
people with the head with a hammer and
Yeah, that's it, yeah, yeah,

(01:22:35):
moments that everyone's going to laughat, but you don't have to just be
like, we're going to see the P word.
You just, you just got towho let, who let the cat out?
We don't have a cat.
Get out of here.
It's
just a
so,
it
yeah, so that's the thingabout it, you know, you, there
is something for everyone.
And it's not uncomfortable for anyone,and it's, it's just a fun time.

(01:22:58):
And that's why
it stood the test of time, probably.
Because I don't think I've ever met anyonewho hasn't seen it and doesn't like it.
It's not,
Good point.
yeah, it's one of those movies thatwe all sort of It's not necessarily
nostalgic, because I bet you there's kidswho could watch it today and enjoy it.

(01:23:18):
Mm hmm.
You know, so yeah, for me that's justa solid bit of family entertainment,
and that's very rare these days.
That's no wonder we look back.
Mm hmm.
Well said, sir. Said indeed.
Anything to add Scott or,
being a child of an eighties,being a child of the eighties
This is just such a great movie.

(01:23:38):
I said earlier, JohnCandy, this is brilliant.
of Macaulay Culkin as a little kid.
I know Steve doesn't like him,but he hates kids anyways.
But this is, it's, it's like when Steveand I talk about action movies, right?
Like you, you know, You want your,your movies to kind of move quick.
This movie does exactlywhat it's supposed to.
We go, we, we, we get to tell a story.

(01:23:59):
We go on a journey, but the jokeskeep coming and we, and it doesn't
feel like you're just like, isthis thing going to fucking end?
Like it just keeps moving froma beat to a beat, funny stuff,
innuendos, things here, things there.
By the time you're done, you're like,Oh my God, that was a lot of fun.
You forget how good this kind of movie is.

(01:24:20):
And you start to realize, Oh my God.
Of all the blueprints we've takenin Hollywood, where all we do is
now superhero movies out the ass.
aren't movies like, why aren't welooking back at movies like this and not
remaking them, but taking their beatsand their structure and go, now we can
try to, this is how you're supposed tomake, this is how the sausage should be
made for comedies, for family comedies.

(01:24:40):
And we don't do that anymore.
And that's kind of a disappointmentand a disservice to people because this
is the, this is the, like Steve said,this is the perfect movie for a family.
I could show this to my grandkids.
hmm.
And not worry about it.
And I know if I show it to themyoung, like McCulloch, they're going
to laugh at the kid stuff and theadults can laugh at the adult stuff.
And we're all going to have agood time, have some popcorn.
And we're all going to be like, night.

(01:25:02):
You know, like they'lllaugh at Oh, he said shit.
Like we all, they were the kids.
He said nuts and balls.
Of course, you know,you're going to laugh.
But then when you get to thekiddie part, the adults will
laugh and think that's funny.
And the kids were like, wait a minute.
I don't worry about it.
It's the cat joke.
Like it's, it's fun for everybody.
And I just, I don't know that you miss.
The star magnetism ofpeople like a John Candy.
We don't have that anymore.

(01:25:23):
We don't, we're missing some of thesestar people who command a scene.
Like when you, you know, you see a JohnCandy would be like, man, that was fun.
Like plane, trains, and all will be asyou go watch that completely different.
Even when he does his little cameo inthe end of Home Alone, he's, you know,
the, the polka band driving her home.
He's just great in everything he does.
And then of course the greatoutdoors with Dan Aykroyd.

(01:25:44):
I mean, fucking such a good Fun timeof these movies with an amazing guy.
And it's a slice of our youth, but Ireally feel like it's a missing piece in
today's cinema that has not been filled.
And no one is filling this, this voidof the comedy that would bring families

(01:26:05):
together to go to a movie together.
There's just, it's eitherwatching kids movies like a Disney
movies or you're, that's it.
You know, you're not getting
John Hughes types.
these are low budget movies too.
Hmm.
know
why they aren't,
I don't know.
I guess, sort of a double thinghere where, I mean, you, you,
you did have like School of Rock

(01:26:25):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
But
and you could almost say JackBlack would be a good Uncle Buck,
that's a great pick right there.
Good
you know, so it could, it's, I thinka lot of these comedy guys, they just,
they just milked it so quickly with, youknow, Will Ferrell, Kevin Hart, all these
guys, they just milked it so quickly thateven they didn't want to do it anymore.

(01:26:45):
And
Yeah.
you look at what Will Ferrell'sdoing now, you know, he's
trying to distance himself from.
You know, he's doing, he'strying to spread his wings and
do other things because they justmilk the comedy thing so much.
So yeah,
would, yeah.
I mean, I guess we don't knowbecause we lost John Candy,
mm
but you know, what would, whatwould he have gone on to do?

(01:27:08):
I don't know, you know, but also thistype of person, we don't have obese stars.
True.
very, That's an, that kind of thing.
You have to be very pretty andnot really that good of an actor
Yeah.
You know what?
I think Bill
hmm.
something recently interviewabout what funny is.
It's not about trying to be funny.

(01:27:30):
It's about playing straight.
Mm hmm.
is playing straight and JohnCandy plays it straight.
Bill Murray plays it straight.
That's what makes them funny
mm
when you react to something with somesarcasm, but you're doing it straight
That's why people laugh because you'relike, oh my god, that's cut like
Steve Carell a little bit does, youknow unless he's doing you know, the

(01:27:50):
The movies with Will Ferrell, they'rejust losing their minds in the tea.
That's those are funny, too
yeah.
Mm-hmm
know, we don't, everyone's trying toplay things for huge laughs or being no
slapstick stuff, and you don't necessarily
You don't need it.
don't have, we're goingto lose Bill Murray soon.
We're going to lose some ofthese, these greats, and they're
going to be gone forever.
And there's no one to fill the void.
Yeah, and that's that.

(01:28:11):
fill that.
void for, for that kind of comedy.
At least, at least in America, I don't
Yeah,
some good English, you know,comedians could do it, but American
really.
feel like we have anybody tofill the void of these comedic
actors on screen you know, evenJim Carrey's pulled himself away.
I mean, again, he was great at allthe stuff he does, but we don't have.

(01:28:33):
left really who's going to fillthese voids of the people who we
could have a john candy or a billmurray or a Dan akra we we're losing
them because there's that's notthe style of comedy we do anymore
There's actually, I can think of a fairnumber of, again, they're not young.
They're like middle aged now, butlike the Kristen Wiggs and the
Yeah,
Amy Poehler, like those kind of

(01:28:53):
but they don't get roles much anymorebecause we're losing because we don't
everyone wants like unfortunatelyEveryone wants the dick and fart jokes,
which they work at times But not ifeveryone's doing them if everyone's
doing them you lose everything Any ofthe fun that used to be what an Adam
Sandler movie used to be because he wasone of the, you know, the few people
who, who are in that realm of comedy.
But if everyone's doing that,

(01:29:15):
Yeah, but these
the same thing.
It's just a retread.
Now you're like,
yeah
Dick and fart joke.
But then I think also with the climatewe're in in Hollywood Those, these movies,
they're not, they don't make enough money.
people are kind of scared to,to, you know, I don't know.
It's funny though, because itdoesn't like this movie made.

(01:29:37):
was made for 15 million dollars.
The Breakfast Club, 1 million dollars.
I know, crazy.
insane.
These, these films, these sortof films can't, they can't make,
they can't make the money now.
That's why we have, that's why we'rein the situation we're in with,
with Blockbusters and Marvel andall this stuff, is because they need

(01:30:01):
that billion, they want to hit thatbillion dollar mark and they've,
and they, but they haven't got themguarantees anymore, fortunately.
Fortunately, they're losing money.
you know, so what I'm saying,
with streaming, we'd be ableto least do it on those, right?
If you're
yeah, I think people are turningtheir backs on that bit as well.
So
it's such a poor product coming out

(01:30:21):
yeah, exactly.
You know, but you know, a comedy moviethat costs 11 million making 800 million
just is not going to happen anymore,
You're
you know, and I think, and then,and they can't even, they can't even
make that money with a sure bet now,

(01:30:43):
Yeah.
know, like the Superman moviethat's coming out this year.
I mean.
Part of me is I hope it, I hopeit fails, so we can bring it down,
bring it down,
let's
making movies that cost less money.
Yeah, that's, we need it, becauseyou know, the well's running dry on
all them ideas, and you're gonna haveto sort of start listening to people

(01:31:04):
who've got I don't know, ideas andstories and stuff, you know, maybe.
I know it's a bit naive of me tothink that we could do that, but
Yeah, I mean, do you really thinkas a society, we're moving towards
listening to the smart people, or?
I wasn't going there, but,
in America.
We fucking aren't.
your point about Oh, listen,you know, people that have
creative ideas and this and that

(01:31:25):
I think the wrong people run Hollywood.
Mm
oh yeah,
Mm
Hollywood should do this.
If you're going to run a studio,run it like a football team.
own it.
So run it, but put people in placewho know what the fuck they're doing.
Dallas Cowboys.
That's this going to go receive saidDallas Cowboys have a shitty owner
in Jerry Jones and I hate the Cowboysanyway, so I'm glad they're doing bad,
but they always hire somebody who kissesJerry's ass and he basically runs it

(01:31:47):
and he's out of touch with the game.
you have someone who was likein the Patriots, you own it.
you let someone like Bill Belichickrun it and look what the production is.
So get someone in there who, you know,can smooze and get money and yada,
yada, yada, but no, you're fucking lame.
Let the real people know what they'redoing, do the job and let them create

(01:32:09):
and stay the fuck out of their way.
But they don't, theykeep getting in the way.
And that's why we get terrible product.
That's why we remake 20, 000 things.
What news begging for any remakes?
Thankfully they were, it was a joke,but someone, they were going to remake
American psycho with Austin Butler.
We don't need a remake.
It was perfect the way it is.
I
I don't think that's a joke, though.
it was, it ended up being a joke,but at the time for a while, people

(01:32:30):
were like, there's been talk of KurtRussell's son reprising his role in
a remake of escape from New York.
I don't need an escapefrom New York remake.
I am happy with escape from New York.
it
Yeah,
not need to remake it.
of these movies, find something new.
Give me something new.
What's what else can you come upwith besides escape from New York?
What else you got in your well there?

(01:32:52):
hmm.
yeah spend,
new
yeah, spend less, spendless but make more,
Mm hmm.
let people in with some ideas, but,you know, that's a whole tangent
because all the creatives are workingin gaming now, they're not working
in Hollywood, and so that, that'sjust another, but that's a whole,
Yeah.
Oh god, we could
Or they're working in television too.
Some of the streaming TV is a lot betterthan some of the movies we get nowadays.

(01:33:14):
Yeah, I
just think we're in a verytime of mediocre product and
everyone's sitting at home.
Movies are found at the cinema.
Mm hmm
You know, films that are criticallywell received aren't making
the money, so they're flops.
Right.
But they're not flops because they suck.
They flop because noone's going to the cinema.

(01:33:36):
Which is a whole nother thing, but,when you've gone to see, you can only
watch a caped guy throw someone intoa building so many times, before it
just becomes completely redundant.
However,
that's why you're not,
a movie for an hour and a half of aguy just picking up people and thread
it through just, that's his whole
You can, you can do,
just,
do that, you can do that every week,you can do that every week now,
but what you can't do is go seefilms like Uncle Buck, is my point.

(01:33:58):
Uncle
right.
Yeah.
And I like like, yeah, 89.
It was I mean, listeners, if youhaven't seen Uncle Buck in a minute,
I would consider this your sign to
Mm hmm.
all need some
Do so.
in our lives.
Yes.
And John Hughes is a great comedic writer.
He really is.
I mean, he has some other issues,obviously we've kind of unearthed a little
bit, but his writing is for comedy is

(01:34:21):
it, it really is.
Yeah.
He's it feels effortless, right?
Like just, you know, you're incertain hands of certain directors,
writers, you it's effortless.
You don't even realize how good they are.
That's how good they are at it.
Right?
Like you just sit there andyou go, you laugh, you go,
it's in that after you'vewatched it's in that retro.
When you go back, you go, holy shit.
That's really, I mean,they really nailed this.

(01:34:42):
This was almost ahead of its time.
This guy is killing it on all levels.
And.
You know, so yeah, if yourlisteners definitely, definitely
give a, you know, I know a lotof people are like, John Hughes.
Oh my God.
It's all those teen movies.
Let me tell you what, I'll go buck.
I'll go bucks.
Pretty fucking good.
he, that's kind of where hegot, he started his fame and
then he kind of turned a cornerwith it with these family ones.

(01:35:03):
But
He got older.
He got older himself, I guess,and different things became
More important to him.
Yeah.
Or,
I mean, you don't want to be a
we talked about it in thebreakfast club episode as to that.
looking for that one.
yeah as there were, that was, therewas a couple of events that happened,
Mm.
That kind of started that.
That was his sign, probablycombination to your point.

(01:35:24):
Like he was getting older, but asign that he started doing this
kind of stuff, which I will take it
all day, every day.
I'll have your guys'slinks and stuff in the show
Thank you.
that you
want to tell people to go?
For our for the two podcasts we to dotogether as the cheeky bastards We have
the men of action we have dropping aBruce You can go to the last of the action

(01:35:45):
heroes podcast network, which you're alsoa part of with some of your other shows
Mm
the easiest way to probablyfind us there because our links
are there and then for me.
I'm just at the church of Qtpodyou can type that into any one of
the I'll be on Twitter much longer.
I think we'll go over tothe blue, the blue thing.
What's the blue
I'm out.
I'm out.
blue
I just got to move to
I'm on Blue Sky, yeah.

(01:36:05):
Okay.
So I'm moving there.
But yeah, other than that yeah,we, we dropped something every.
Every other Tuesday basicallyis how we do it over for ours.
Yeah.
First up is the men of action and we aredoing sequels from action movies that were
put pit to it against, against each other.
And there's a theme.
And then we are just about tostart season three, the final

(01:36:27):
full season of dropping a Bruce.
So
we've got the awards ceremony for the
Bruce's birthday, which is in March 19th.
Yes.
And then we start.
The
Our tuxes are pressedand we're ready to go.
yes,
got,
it.
going to,
lined up and everything.
got a couple of STDs to hand out.
Oof.
to spread

(01:36:47):
Yes,
Yeah.
now, so we're, it's 16 more to go,so we're almost there, but yeah.
if you do if you guys liked this episode,please drop a review It could be the
podcast version of a giant pancakeconsider it that to bring it back to uncle
buck It does help more retro fans You us.

(01:37:09):
So please do that.
And until next time, be kind, rewind.

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