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Unknown (00:01):
Hey everyone, I am psychic medium Angel, Amy.
And Hi everyone.
I'm Lila. So today we're goingto be discussing an alternative
health technique. So if you'relooking to heal the physical,
mental or spiritual parts ofyourself are curious about what

(00:23):
to try or what could help youlive your best life. You're
absolutely in the right place.
So thank you for listening.
Today, we have a guest that I'mso excited to introduce. He's
actually my chiropractor, Lila.
And he is Dr. Peter. My Tony. Sowelcome.

(00:47):
Thank you so much. It'sgreat to be here. Yeah. And Dr.
mortoni is the owner ofAtlanta's chiropractic wellness
center in Linfield,Massachusetts. So let's start
here. I met I actually met Dr.
Maher 20 years ago, through afriend we kind of crossed path.

(01:09):
I don't know if you rememberthis at a social event. But
anyways, not.
And I don't my memory I wouldlove.
So we were actually at a housein. Wait, I actually I think it
was Wakefield. And I'm tryingnot to drop the name of the

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person. But she ended up havinga dinner party for all of her
helpers. And people that havehelped her move forward.
Physically, mentally,emotionally, or spiritually. I
remember. Yeah. And I believeour mutual friend is Ana. And

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Ana introduced me to because atthe time she worked at Atlantis,
yeah. And so then what happenedis time kind of passed in, I
ended up with a herniated disc,which we've talked about. Yeah.
We've heard about this the last10 episodes or so, right. Lila,

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what was your spinal diagnosis?
Um, I don't know, like,specifically, but I know that I
have like a functional shortleg. So it's okay.
Hips, lower back. Yep. Andyou're right now you're doing
pretty well. Yeah,I also have a lot of problems.
Okay, old lady stuff.

(02:37):
And so I started to see Dr.
Maher, Tony. And let me tellyou, when I walked into your
office, I couldn't I couldbarely walk. Like, I don't know
if you remember it. My husbandwas tying my shoes. Voting on my
pants. Like, right. And now I'mback on the treadmill, weight

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training. It was a year process.
And it was definitely a recipebut you were a big part of the
recipe for me. So thank you.
Oh, that's so great. It'sfantastic to hear these stories,
when when you have a patientlike you that comes in the camp
walk in that is at your wit'send. And now you're back to your

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life drug free, you know,surgery free, and now your your
long term outcome is way morefavorable than you know, it
takes a little bit of time tofix the damage that occurred.
But once you fix it, it's fixed.
And you're good. I love it.
Yes. So thank you so much. Sowhy don't we start by you

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telling us what interested youlike, why did you first get into
chiropractic care?
So getting into chiropracticcare was a little bit of a
zigzag story. So kind of mywhole life was. So I was in an
auto accident when I was youngin high school. And my father

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took me to a chiropractor. And Iwalked in, and I walked out. And
I said I'm never going back. Ihated it. I was
not where I thought you were.
I love the realness.
And I just I said, you know,this isn't for me. And there's a

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lot of medicine in my family. SoI went to UMass Amherst that was
an exercise physiologist, and mypath was going to medical
school. And then I was lookingat you know which school to go
to and, and I was a lifeguarddown at Revere Beach at the
time. And I had to take thiscertification course to to be

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able to be a lifeguard so I tookmy my reopened my certification
course. And then it met achiropractor there and he's
like, Oh, what do you decide todo? I'm like, Well, I'm Gonna go
to medical school is like why?
In kind of in the short of it, Iwas like, I want to help people
and, and he's like, Well, haveyou ever thought about
chiropractic? And I'm like,Yeah, I did. Well, I didn't,
because I'm gone. And it reallywasn't, wasn't for me. I don't

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like the whole thing with theneck. I didn't. I just didn't. I
didn't like it took me along time. I had to be not able
to walk. That's how I gothere. Most people come to my
office as a last resort. Yeah,we're my last. No offense or
anything. I've tried everything.

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After 21 years of doing this,I'm everybody's last one. So I'm
okay. So I, so he was like, Whydo you want to be a medical
doctor, I want to help people.
And from that accident, I hadalways had a stomach issue. And
never put two and two together.
I had reflex I didn't have areally solid stomach. And he

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said, Well, if you come in, he'slike, I can adjust you and I
might be able to help. But I'mlike, no, no, no, I'm okay. I'm
good with it. And then heexplained something to me that I
had never thought about before.
He said, If you're watering thegarden, and you're stepping on
the garden hose, is that gardengoing to be able to flourish?
And the answer to that questionis no, because it's not getting
the life force of the water. Sowhen the spine is out of

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alignment, the same thinghappens. So if there's area of
your spine that is out ofalignment, then that could put
pressure on a nerve, and itcould affect the ability for the
stomach to function. So youmight not need to take that
medication anymore. You mightjust need an adjustment. I'm
like, Alright, he was sopersistent. I said, You know
what, alright, let me try.

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Within three adjustments. Inever had a stomach issue again.
I'm like, Holy mackerel, if Icould do if, if I can do that,
and they just started thinkingabout, you know, medication free
and be able to help people witha drug free approach. That's
more in line with myphilosophical belief. Yeah. So I
enrolled in chiropractic school.
Beautiful. So I have to tellLila, this. So he has this chart

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on in one of his rooms. Andthere's a in Oregon, that's a
you can correct me with this.
There's an Oregon attached toeach like disc, or the like. So
this talks about, let me helpyou. Please. Angel, me, this is

(07:30):
not my Yeah, you feelit, right. Yeah, feel good
enough to tell me to say, okay,where I'm going with this is at
my pieces is spiritual. And Iconnect, I connect to humans to
the emotional component. And Ibelieve that each part of the
spine, carry some kind of energyand emotion in it. But we'll

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we'll get to that. So explainthis chat. That's the
the nervous system controlseverything in the human body.
The reason why Atlantis iscalled Atlantis is because
literally translated meansisland of Atlas. And Atlas is
the top bone that holds up thehuman that holds up basically

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the brain, which is Atlasholding up your world. So that's
why it's called Atlas. And it isthe most significant bone in the
human body. Because the braincontrols everything through the
nervous system. In these nerves,electric conduit, like the
electrical system in your house,in your spine would be like the

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fuse panel. So if you go down tothe fuse panel, and you look and
you see fuse, number four goesto the living room. Yeah, and
there's a fuse blown downstairs.
And then before you know thatthere's a problem in the living
room, right, and then this onegoes to the bathroom, this one
goes to the kitchen, this onegoes to the you know, the master
bedroom, the spine is the sameway, each level of the spine, a
nerve comes out between thisbone bone, and then does a disk

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space. And then that disk space.
The reason why it's there is formovement, but it also creates
space for nerves to come out. Soas you lose the disk space,
you're compressing the nerve,and you're affecting the
function of that nerve. And thatnerve goes somewhere. So So
let's say that nerve is going tothe lungs. I know then, if a

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child has exercise inducedasthma, that they will more than
likely have a problem in T twoto T four because that's the
direct innovation to the lungs.
So asthma in my world, everybodyhas fear. So so looking at like
is the is the child constantlytalking about being afraid of
the dark or so I come at it. SoI love how Dr. Ma Tony Lila

(09:48):
comes at it from like thephysical on in an app. And I
always come at it from up downon in and maybe that's why it
was you were my last resort.
Because yeah, so isn't thisfascinating? Yes, it is.
So briefly, since both Amy and Iare familiar with chiropractic,

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but if some of our listeners arenot what exactly does a
chiropractor do? All right.
So there are different types ofchiropractors in the within the
profession, different schools ofthoughts. But ultimately, the
way that the profession wasfounded is on this neurology, so

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aligning spine to improvehealth, okay, so when you're out
of alignment, that puts pressureon the nervous system, that that
causes dysfunction in thenervous system and throws the
body out of balance. So that iswhy the old school chiropractic
is really focused on theneurology and how the body heals

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from the inside out. There'sthis, you know, since insurance
kind of came into the play, andnow you know, the insurance is
set up to treat conditions, thenthe schools kind of recenter
themselves around to treatconditions. So now there's a lot
of neck and back pain andshoulder pain and in in this

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whole convoluted mix of howchiropractic is, is is seen, and
how chiropractors practice. Butthe fundamental principles in
the 33 principles that startedthe profession, is all based on
aligning the spine to improvethe function of the nervous
system. Now, when you talk aboutwhat else does it do, it also

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plays a significant role inimproving the biomechanics,
which then can help decreasepain. So it's really good at
pain, but it's not a paintreatment, per se. So what
chiropractic really is designedto do is to maintain maintain
function between that bone bonein disk space. And I'll tell you

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why you have degeneration, I cantell you why you have loss of
disk space, why things herniatewhat arthritis is, and all the
misconceptions about it. I thinkthat is super important because
the body works on specific laws.
But ultimately, whatchiropractic is for is to
improve biomechanics withinbetween two bones. And
especially when it's done at thespinal level, that improves

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function takes pressure off ofthe nervous system. And then
people that have been unable toheal from from years of
dysfunction through thedifferent trying different
medications and having issueswith digestive systems and
immune systems, you start to seeby restoring nervous system. By
restoring the function back tothe nervous system, people can

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really improve their health andwellness.
Okay, so listen, everybody. Somy parents are in their 70s. And
they found chiropractic 20 yearsago. And both my parents took
have taken no medication. Exceptrecently, my father got COVID,

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which spike mess with his bloodpressure. So now he is on blood
pressure. But he's meds but he'sdetermined to get off of them.
And they see their chiropractorlike, I see the trainer. They're
big, you know, big, big, bigbelievers in chiropractic. And

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I'm a little late to the gamewith this, but yeah, let's talk
a little bit about like, Let'sgo here. What is like the
craziest thing you've seen?
Like? Or what's a story youcould tell us that people might
find fascinating.
So this one is, this is a reallygood one. When, let me see. This

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would have been 12 years agonow. My cousin passed out in
school. Wow. And when she wokeup, she was in she then she went
into a coma. And when she will,she woke up out of the coma, I
believe. Three, two or threeweeks later, when she was unable

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to walk, she was unable to talk.
And she, you know, she wasconfined to a wheelchair. Wow.
And this went on for one month,two months, three months, four
months, five months a year. Andshe started to I mean, she was
able to talk but not really, youknow, not great. And I told my
cousin I said, I don't know whatwe can do. Let's just start

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getting her adjusted. We had abig benefit for her and I had
mentioned that that's a benefit.
And he started bringing her in.
And after the first few weeks,she was you know, had a lot more
cognitive function functioning.

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After two months, she was ableto walk down the stairs. And
after I believe it was four orfive months she was not confined
to a wheelchair anymore. Theygot rid of the You know, they
were able to get rid of the, youknow, the handicap ramp, and now
she's graduating college.
And now is that because you wereable to sort of restore that

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function through likemanipulating her spine?
Yeah, you know. So, you know,medicine, calls it just
insidious thought she just gotbetter on Iran. Oh.
Talk to my Tony's channel.
So, so all results may vary. I'mnot saying that's right. It,

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it's a treatment for anything.
But what it does is your bodyworks more efficiently when the
nervous systems function moreefficiently. That's it. That's
all I do. Right. And then atthis point, talk to my Tony, Mr.
Tony, and 2022. Don't you feellike that's kind of like common
sense. Well, let me make somecomments about what's going on.

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Right. It's not that we'll justend it. Right. But
do you think it's sorry,describes it when he even says
like, now that insurance isinvolved, we can't say it
promotes this whole health, ithas to be over treating a
specific condition, which Ithink is why we're also Yeah,

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you know, we think of like thisone thing like, Oh, my back
hurts.
So preventative care versus is acall clinical. I don't know the
right terminology.
So ask me really hard, like,like the questions where you
know, you're the listener islike, there's no way I would
ever go to a chiropractor, theywill kill me. They will rip my
artery off my neck. Like let'sdive in.

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All right. Okay. So that's theone right? The neck. Yeah,
that's tick tock.
Tick tock. The strap on it up. Ithink that horrible.
How adorable. Yes. I wish youcould see him. I know. Right.
So once you go, you always haveto go or stuff.

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I know. So listen, I I choose tosee Dr. Mangione once a month. I
just shuffled over the weekend.
So I'm feeling a little off inthe hip area. So you may see me
on Wednesday, you will see me onWednesday, I need to call. But I
think that it just like anymodality, whether it's Reiki or

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it's, we could list them allright, massage, emotional
freedom, technique, it, you youlisten to your body and listen
to what your body needs inchiropractic works the same way.
Now you might have arecommendation, being a doctor
and a professional and being amaster in this specific thing.

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And say you may want to see meAngel, Amy. You know, in the
beginning, I saw you three timesa week. And let me tell you, I
would have crawled to see himcrawled. So and then we started
spacing it out. Right. So Ithink that, you know, we have to

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start to think about listeningto inside our bodies in like,
discerning what is fear? Andwhat is maybe something that is
either right or wrong for me.

(18:28):
Yeah, that makes sense to go offon a tangent.
So my she's saying don't do thatthing with the strap and you'll
probably run out. Yeah. Sopeople think that, you know, my
husband was put in traction. Andhe, he, he thinks it I don't
even know what that is. That'swhat he came home 20 years ago

(18:50):
and told me in Neverland,Pharmacopeia? Yeah. Because I
keep saying it just you need togo see Dr. My Tony's the best.
And he helped fix you. I knowthat sounds crazy. But you
that's what you do. I'm sorry.
You're gonna say it. He fixes. Idon't sugarcoat things. Right.
So what So what else do peoplethink about when we think about

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chiropractic?
Well, I've definitely you know,heard the thing if you get your
neck done, you know, you'll havea stroke. I don't. I don't know
how do you know what what likewhat?
The good thing is that I do?
Or like where it comes from thatpeople say that?

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So so what we have to understandis that not all so there's the
difference between manipulationand adjustment. It's synonymous
when you're thinking aboutchiropractic. Manipulation is
like one of those things thatyou see a strap and you pull in
a whole bunch of stuff goes. Youknow, like it just you're just

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pulling things in. You're justcausing things to move, whether
you're rotating things to move.
For a year, are you pullingthings and things will move. And
that's synonymous withchiropractic, versus identifying
a specific area of the spinethat is out of alignment,
causing pressure on the nervoussystem, and then lightly moving
that bone to restore function tothat area. And it's a totally,

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it's a very specific approach tobe able to regain mobility to a
specific area. So let me kind ofexplain why somebody would even
need chiropractic care. And,and, and why, you know, the body
works on specific laws. The onelaw that everybody can relate to

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is, if you don't use it, youlose it. Right? Yeah, that's a
lot in the body. Both of themare basically that Davis is lone
Wolf's law. So if you don't useit, you lose it. What does that
mean? If I put your arm or yourleg, or if you've ever broken a
bone, and you put it in a cast,and you restrict movement to a

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joint? Do you know what happensto that joint? No.
Does it like, doesn't it kind ofget weak and whether
whether the body will absorb thejoint space? Wow, the first
thing it does is it pulls waterout of the joint. What do you
think that does to a disk? Ittravels up like? So when you

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take an x ray, you know, the MTAwill say, Oh, you got normal
arthritis. Oh, look at your age.
That's just normal aging. Noneof that's normal. It is not
normal for a disc or a joint todehydrate. The body is doing
that, because it's lost somesort of motion. And what do I
mean by loss? Some sort ofmotion? Well, yes, you don't

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have your arm totally in thecast. But you don't have your
joint totally in the cast. Butwhen you injure something, what
type of tissue does that injuryheal with? When you let's say
you pull a muscle. Yeah, thatmuscle will heal with what type
of tissuewith there's a big word, no scar

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tissue. Okay,so scar tissue in your runner,
yeah, if you pull a hamstring,you have scar tissue, does that
become more flexible, lessflexible, when you have it is
best that when less flexibilityis less movement, less movement
causes degeneration in themuscle. Okay, just like if you

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damage a joint, you have apullback, that heals with scar
tissue. you restrict movement,from the point that you hurt the
joint, you will now degeneratethat joint for the rest of your
life. Okay, so that is why I cansee stage one degeneration in
children at 10 years old. Whenthey're always on a computer and

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texting and sleeping in thewrong way. My God, Julie would
kind of come see which Ishouldn't see. I shouldn't see
degeneration and arthritis whensomebody is, you know, 30 or 40
or 50. I see 17 year olds thatspines look like they're 60 or
70. And I'm seeing it more andmore because of the modern day
lifestyle covered by poorsleeping position. That's why

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now I'm in the sleep industry.
Yeah, we got it. Chuck, we'llget to that. Okay. Have you ever
broken a bone? Lila? No.
But I have surgery. I have hadsurgery on my jaw. Oh, they like
lockjaw. They did like a TMJsurgery so they actually like
solid into this part and slid itforward. I don't think they do

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that. I'm really old. I don'tthink they do that. But they did
it actually helped you know ithelped with TMJ Dr. mattoni
any where in the body thatthere's a joint okay, you can
you can restore function to it.
Most of the time. The problemsare poor biomechanics. So let's
say we had mentioned a short legthat's only the dynamics is

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because what happens is the bodyhas a another law called the
righting reflex, which basicallymeans your body posture adjust
to your head position. So mostpeople believe it's all core
strength or, Oh, I have a badback or my muscles are tight.
No, you're the body's tellingthe muscles what to do. Muscles
are never the problem. Themuscles are the minions. The

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problem is what is the body iscreating the imbalance due to
how you hold your head and howyou're trying to write your
eyes. So as your head comesforward, your body your hips,
twist, and then it brings up oneleg so you don't have a short
leg you just have the bodyadapting through so as major

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muscle spasm, which is what wecan shoot disc, I actually
herniated my disc. As achiropractor, you told me that
yeah, it was my bad. I was achiropractor at that time for 15
Here's the secret. I had backpain every day in my life, oh my
god, right? And, and it wasn'tuntil I herniated my disc and it
was in the emergency room in myentire leg was numb. And I'm

(25:08):
sitting there saying, how couldit come to this, I'm sitting
there hooked up on more, I hadso much morphine, they asked my
wife as a drug user, thatdoesn't even take an aspirin. It
was I was in so much pain. Andthen I vowed to figure out what
the heck was going on. Ireviewed over 2,000x rays, and
found the pattern, as your headcomes forward, you hit Shift,

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and it does so through so lastmajor muscle spasm, which causes
your short leg and that muscleis the only muscle in the human
body that attaches to a disk. Sothe problem is that weaken my
disk over years and years ofhaving forward head posture, and
then I started, you know,changing the sleeping position,
gym in my head back, took theyou know, went from forward head

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posture created a good cervicalcurve in my neck, and I've never
had back pain since until I justslipped on the ice went down
today. So I'm gonna have tofigure out not out here at home,
no at home. Oh, geez. Okay, NewEngland,
you have to heal so you can helpme?

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Oh, that's so interesting. It'sso interesting. Yeah, because I
think I have a terrible headposition.
So I know. And I believe like,as you know, when we incarnate
and we're born, and we live inour first families, and we start
the emotional component startsto develop, we start to feel

(26:39):
different feelings in because welive in these physical bodies,
your physical body, learns howto adapt to the emotions in the
themes around you with yourfirst family. So so how I carry
anger in my body may be verydifferent than how Lila carries

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it in hers. And it's really amindfulness to looking at, like
with my herniated disk. When Ituned in, and I asked myself,
What am I feeling, I just feltcomplete, completely helpless,
completely helpless. And as achild, there's some stories

(27:21):
there about feeling helpless.
And I thought I got it all.
started seeing Dr. My journey,and connecting all the dots of
my little special recipe. Andyeah, so you know, just that
might really resonate forsomeone, where if you do have
back pain, or something going onwith your spine, or even your

(27:44):
physical body in general, justreally asking yourself, like,
how does this make me feel? Andeven if you Google, like the
emotion wheel, there's more thanthree emotions. Everybody knows.
And really digging deep intothat.
Right? Well, and then one of thethings that you had said about

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that feeling then veryvulnerable, coming into the
office and saying, like, lyingdown on that table, like I'm in
so much pain. Yeah, you know,and so finding that person, that
practitioner that makes you feelsafe in that.
So let's talk about trust.
Because here I was on the table,and I knew that I felt helpless.

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And for me to be in thatvulnerable state that Lila just
suggested and talked aboutinlet, Dr. Maher, Tony in was a
complete form of bravery andcourage for me to step through
the vulnerability. And I justfeel that you're more Dr.

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mattoni. Then Dr. Air quotes,you have just such a presence
for us being women. Can you feelthis Lila? I always make Lila
feel like you have such a nicepresence where it not. It's
like, even if you don't speak aword, you can feel that you

(29:11):
really care about the person.
But my favorite of all time iswhen you slide into the office
like Kramer and you startsinging to me jelly me you
you've done it a few times andit's fun.
Well and that's good that you'vehad the experience right? So you

(29:32):
understand like when someone'sthere when Amy's there and she's
in so much she's like all doanything to get out of this
pain. You know exactly what thatfeels like. Which I think is is
hugely important because it's abig driver of pain.
No good. And I'm not gonna eventhink I told you it is not a

(29:53):
great experience when you'recoming in with that much pain to
have me jump on you Right. And,and to move things, it is so
much better. To, to I mean, thetrust is is a huge issue and you
have to as a doctor, respectthat because I'm not just giving

(30:15):
you advice, I'm putting my handson you. And that is a huge, you
know, barrier for a lot ofpeople to overcome. And I as I
have to be very comfortablewith, you know that relationship
and respect it and in in reallyput the patient at ease when
they're at that first vulnerablebecause the line on my table

(30:37):
vulnerable because they're in somuch pain, they think anything.
Um, I have so, so many peoplecome into my office, they say,
Oh my God, I've heard so manygood things helped me but just
don't touch me. Right? And I'mlike, Okay, let's, let's get
over that. Let's address that. Ihave to touch you in some way.

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But Jesus,put my hand on my lap.
Like this, I put my hands over,like, Oh, my God. It doesn't
work like that. But you know,it's your right. You, you. It's
a very tough place for a patientto be. And I appreciate that.

(31:19):
You you feel that way.
Oh, my pleasure. I'm going totalk a little angel, Amy secret.
Oh, so I so I actually trust menmore than women. Oh, I do. I and
here's why. And I read people soI know when someone is gifted in

(31:39):
their thing. And that's why Icame to see you. But I have you
ever thought about this Lila,whether I trust
women, I don't mean to like drawgenders in. But I and I love
women like 90% of the peoplelistening to this right now
we're female and I love you all.
Men tend to carry a energy oflike real honesty. Like there's

(32:05):
not It's not sugar coated, notall men, but most men kind of
just like, they they find theirthing. Whether we call it a gift
or not. They find their thingand they own it. And they they
move through it. And I that's Ifind that very safe. Not just
I'm not saying women don'tthat's not what I'm saying.

(32:29):
Women do. But I we tend to bereally nice, that that feminine
sign and be like, Lila It'sokay. Tomorrow, your hair will
look better. It looks like shittoday. I mean, you know, I tell
you? Like a matter of fact.
Yeah, like I have a lot of guyfriends. And I think because I

(32:50):
just shoot real. Yeah, right.
Thought I can say tell you theway it is. So I tend to I do
work with female practitioners.
But I predominantly have malehealers, which is really
unusual. Just noting that anyonethat finds it interesting, I

(33:12):
suppose. Yeah. Sothen I won't hire the female
contractor.
Now, you know,I tried one before you. And she
she was she was really nice. Butsomething about it. I felt
energetically we were mixedmatched. And so once I think she

(33:32):
helped me get over my fear ofchiropractors, first of all, and
then I mean, when I saw you, youcould have put like a needle in
my head. And I went about likemy eyeball. Like it's good.
Sure. Right.

(33:53):
Does anyone come not with backpain?
Yeah, I mean, we see infants andbabies and kids. But yeah,
people come with, you know,saying that they, you know, I
heard that you helped my uncle,you know, get off blood pressure
medication, I want to do that.
Not that the chiropractic care,again, is a treatment for blood
pressure, right. But when yousee the body in this, this kind

(34:15):
of goes back to your asthma. Thebody is a dance between two
systems. And it's theparasympathetic and the
sympathetic nervous system fightor flight or thrive, right,
survive versus thrive. And whenyou have an imbalance in that
system, in Thrive takes overversus survive, then then you're

(34:40):
chronically ill, you're tired,you have sleep deprivation,
there are issues when you'reconstantly in survival, you have
digestion issues, you havebreathing issues, you know, so
so the the we live in a worldwhere we are constantly taught
to be afraid of everything Hmm,in we live in such an anxious

(35:00):
state, we suppress threesystems, immune system,
digestive system andreproductive system, those
systems are all at, at stress orsuppressed due to the you know,
due to the threat due to thesurvival state that we live in.
So people all come into us withthe same issues, they can't they

(35:23):
have digestion issues, you know,gut problems, and you know, E.
coli, the, you know, just somany digestive issues, their
hormones are out of balance, orthey have autoimmune issues, all
of that is a suppression in theparasympathetic system, because
they, they living in suchanxiety in such a high state of
stress, the adjustment,especially if the Atlas balances

(35:45):
that immediately. And when youget that adjusted, in, the
chiropractor doesn't explainthat to you, because it just
adjusting you for pain, thepatient goes home, they're
dizzy, they go home, they'rereally tired, they could, they
can have a headache, if they, ifthey go to the gym, you know,
there's, there's a, if you'regoing to decide to start

(36:06):
chiropractic care, you want tofeel comfortable with the
chiropractor that you're goingto that they explain things, and
that's the one big thing thatthat that I like to do, is I
like to have that patient infront of me, tell them what to
expect, right? Tell in and thentell them, you know, listen,
it's okay to get adjusted, justtake a little time because

(36:30):
you're gonna be more tired.
Because because I recognize thatthey're in high anxiety, and
they're going to, you know, wantto sleep. Because you have to
listen to your body. And youknow, and then when you came in
with that much pain, you're notjust immediately going to get
out of pain, that's an acuteinjury, it's like breaking a
bone putting a cast on andtaking the cast off and saying

(36:51):
the bones healed. Right? One ofthe big things is time. And you
work with the patient. And thepatient needs to know is this
going to be one day issue, athree day issue a month, a year,
and just be upfront with thepatient, let them know. And then
you make you decide if you feelcomfortable, because I will give
you the treatment plan that ittakes to correct something, not

(37:14):
just to get somebody out ofpain, right? There are
underlying issues. If I see discdegeneration, I want to reverse
that. Because just like when thedisc, when the body pulls water
out and turns that rate thatgrape into a raisin, you can't
make that raisin a grape again.
But you can take that raise andput it on water and it will
swell up and you can get thisguy back. And it's so important

(37:35):
to let the patient know what'spossible and what it takes to
get there.
So I always say to Dr. My Tony,like I gotta let you in like, so
I have a mindfulness, when I'mgoing to resist out of fear or

(37:55):
anything right in, add in anykind of emotion, or maybe just
anxious. And so there's a placeI go to inside my body to try to
relax to then let him do hisjob. What are some little things
you might do in the office tohelp calm someone down or bring

(38:18):
someone inside their body?
Yeah, so I'm on I was on theboard of chiropractors. And I
told them that I do this. Andthey're like, What are you
crazy? Wedon't think you're crazy. I
don't even know whatschool, they would probably tell
you not to do this. Because theyou know, I, I don't have
boundary issues, right? Becauseof basically how I practice and

(38:40):
what I do. But understandingthat the body works a very
specific way when you go into amassage therapy room. Do you
have bright lights on now knowwhy?
Right? Right. So relax, right? Icall it the Zen times.
So what I'm going to adjustsomebody's neck, there's a

(39:01):
there's involuntary muscletension that happens when
there's bright lights throughthe spinal accessory nerve. It's
a cranial nerve that comes fromthe brain goes to the eyes, and
then goes to the traps. So ifsomebody is going to throw
something at you, and you don'tsee it, but your body will move
out of the way because of aninvoluntary constriction, that's

(39:24):
that's a protective mechanism.
So if I go to adjust somebody,and I put a force in, and let's
say the body bounces me off, andit doesn't want me to adjust, I
have all these pink likeHimalayan sea salt lamps in
every room. So go over I'm like,if I shut off the light on you
before they're like No, I'm likeI'm gonna shut off the light.
And then we're going to adjustyou and then within seconds, the

(39:44):
muscle that layer of that muscletension peels back and then and
then I go to adjust it and itmoves so much more.
To energy, needs energy. Now wehave these big lights right on
Reagan, Fenway Park, right? Iwould never let you in in the

(40:07):
air. Right? We'd have to shutthese right down. Yeah, it's
fascinating. So fascinating.
Yeah. All right, let's get intosleep. Because you know, how
many times have you woken up andyou feel worse, like so bad in
the morning? All right, let'sget to it sleep position or
asleep.
All right, he's asleep guy.
So when I was in that emergencyroom, and I realized that, that

(40:33):
I needed to figure out what wasgoing on, I looked at 2,000x
Ray. And I found that what'shappening due to poor sleeping
position, actually, it's noteven sleeping position, it's
sleeping posture, because I wasa back sleeper at the time. And
because of my poor sleepingposture, coupled by me, hunched

(40:53):
over patients all day, textingon my phone, being on a
computer, I lost the cervicalcurve in my neck, what that
means is, my head comes forward,right? You see people, you look
at him that all their you know,their heads, lean forward. And
then my body posture adjust tothat position. So I said, if

(41:13):
this is a fact, right, throughthese three laws will flood
Davis's law and then writingreflex. If I fix the cervical
curve in my neck, I was gettingadjusted, I was getting my back
adjusted, but it was always inpain. So the adjustment is not
to get you out of pain, theadjustment doesn't instantly
make you feel better, itinstantly makes you heal better.

(41:34):
Okay, so it puts your body in aplace. So the way they explain
it to my patients like this,your spine, do the the scar
tissue was like hardened clay.
With the adjustment, we can takeyour clay and we can put in
water. Now that makes it moremoldable. But it's up to you to
expose it to a different molds.
So I started rolling up towelsand coming up with all of these

(41:58):
different things to be able tosleep with a pillow is a is a is
defined as a support for yourhead, which if you use the wrong
pillow and you sleep on yourback, your heads gonna come
forward. When you sleep on yourside, people typically tuck
their chin. So it's all forwardhead posture, stuff that you're

(42:18):
creating dysfunction in your tieyour spine and your hip to be
out of alignment due to yourpoor sleeping position. So all
of that stuff, you're not goingto fix a car practically because
all the chiropractic care isdoing is making you more
moldable you still need toexpose it to a different mold.
So we invented this pillow andbut in a sense, what it is, is

(42:42):
sticking something underneathyour neck in a position and
getting your neck arched backover the pillow. You're not
supporting your head. You'resupporting your neck. Like a lot
of the cervical pillows supportyour head too much. You want to
put like a soft down pillow andgym and under your neck in lie
in that position for at least anhour night. Just fall asleep in

(43:05):
that position. That's it.
And if you're listening to this,you need his pillow. Plug your
pillow.
It's neck nest. Yeah, I don'teven call it a pillow. It's a
neck neck for your neck. Likethat
weird does is it? Does it have ahole in the middle?
No, that's what I didn't Ididn't want to do that.
I don't own it. So it's, it's ithas like

(43:31):
it's a roll it. So the reasonwhy we designed it this way is I
didn't I don't want like bigpillow because if you had a big
you have a big pillow you hadyou rest your head on it, right.
So I used to take down pillowsand put them up on their edge.
So if you can imagine instead ofwhat the 2013 inches wide it is,

(43:55):
now it's only like four incheswide, but it's really high. And
then my neck would compress ityou only need to support three
inches. So from the pillow tothe top, your neck just needs to
be three inches high. So thiscompresses all the way down and
really just nest your neck intoa nice neutral position. So I
can fall asleep with a glass ofwater on my chest and wake up

(44:16):
and it will still be on mychest. And I don't toss and turn
at all at night because my bodyis in a neutral sleeping
posture.
I'm a nightmare.
Everybody. I used to be I usedto my coverage used to be on the
ground. My pillows used to be onthe list. I could never I was
all over the place. I hadshoulder problems, IP issues,

(44:37):
backissues. Yeah, my husband always
I'm like a million pillows likethe Princess and the Pea. He's
always like they just keepcoming in Bed Bath and Beyond
this pillow that pillow. Turnthem up roll. Can't you know
your hands fall asleep. Yourarms fall asleep it's
because of you. So I tell peoplethis write it because people say

(44:58):
there's no way you can fallasleep like that. And so, either
like I sleep on my right side.
Maybe I go to my left or once Isleep on my right side, I sleep
on my left side. Okay, let's doa little experiment. I want you
to get in the position that youfall asleep. And then I want to,
I want you to watch a two hourmovie like that isn't the best?

(45:20):
And they'd be like, No way.
Exactly. Yeah. So you are allover the place from the second
you fall asleep. And if you'renot all over the place, which
means you had three glasses ofwine before you went to bed, but
two glasses of wine, you'regonna wake up, you're not gonna
be able to move. You're gonnasay, Oh, I slept the wrong way.

(45:43):
No, you didn't sleep the wrongway. You Your reason why your
body tosses in turn is becauseit's in pain. So you didn't
sense the pain because you hadthe alcohol, your body stayed in
your poor sleeping position, andyou finally pulled the muscle in
the neck. Now you can't move forthree days. But that's okay.
It's just me. And thenyou have the sleep herbs to that
I bought.
Take herbsfor you. I like a slow, slow

(46:05):
burn. I don't know. It takes mea while again. I have the
bottle.
Thank you for supporting me. Ireally appreciate
it. Absolutely. Because Iresonates with me, but I just
let meknow. So my acronym now and
we're going to be doing thesleep summit I had mentioned to

(46:26):
you is Dr. Asleep. Right. Okay.
And in the podcasts that we weregoing to do, which we have some
of them recorded sleep tightwith Dr. Sleep, right? I want to
be in every bed in America. Mywife doesn't like it too much.
All right. All right. So we soone of our biggest things is, is

(46:52):
people have problems in one ofthree areas, if not all three,
getting the sleep, stayingasleep, and waking up well
rested, right?
Yeah, I'm all for all three.
That's why I bought the herbs,anything I was like, you have to
take them at them. That'sme, that's good. Just put them
on muscle test with them, Ithink

(47:14):
stick of under your pillow. Sothe product that she's talking
about is deep sleep. Deep Sleepis formulated not to knock you
out. So it's not a sleepsupplement that will just knock
you out. It says it's asupplement that will allow you
once you're able to fall asleepto get you good restful sleep. I

(47:35):
also give it to people duringthe day with anxiety so it
doesn't make you tired. What itdoes is it helps your body get
into into deep sleep. And thereare specific ways your body
needs to get into deep sleep.
And the most critical way isthat your core temperature needs
to drop by two degrees in orderto get good deep sleep. So we

(47:56):
talked about living the deepsleep lifestyle. Donate 300
calories within three hours ofgoing to bed. Take deep sleep.
Okay. Take deep sleep. one twoor three supplements. Before
half an hour before you go tobed. You have to figure out what
works for you. One will be goodfor you. And then here's the big

(48:19):
one. This is a this is a doctorsleep right special. Okay, only
here on this on the podcasthere. Yeah. sleep with him. You
might not be able to do thisbecause I know how you like it
to cozy at night. Sleep with thehands and your feet out of the
covers.
Oh, wow. You know what, though?
Intuitively, halfway through thenight. I take my little cozy

(48:39):
socks off. And I all theblankets and I make it so my
feet are hanging. That's crazy.
That's like so intuitive.
Oh, wow. You're amazing. Okay.
So you're saying to keep youryour hands and your feet out?
Yeah. Why? Yes. Yeah.

(48:59):
So remember your body coretemperature needs to drop. Okay,
so your body only caressomething in the body called
allostatic load it it's ahierarchy your body wants to
survive, okay, for it wants tothrive. That is why we get sick
in the wintertime. Yeah, notbecause we don't get it. So it's

(49:23):
okay, keep it clean, keep offendanybody? I don't want to get
canceled culture, right? So, soyour body wants to survive
before it wants to thrive. So,core body temperature is a
survival system, right? So youcan have your body dropped below

(49:45):
96 degrees, let's say and thenyou'll have hypothermia. But
think about that in a 68 degreeroom, you know or 58 degree room
or when you go outside at 40degrees outside your body takes
an enormous amount of resourcesto keep the body warm. And it
will suppresses your Thrivesystems immune system, digestive

(50:08):
system or reproductive system.
So when you're sleeping, youwant thick, thick covers from
your neck down to your hips.
Okay? Okay, because that's whatyour body cares about keeping
warm. So it will temperatureregulate, use your hands and
your feet like radiators. Itwill take the warm blood and

(50:28):
cool it out the hands and thefeet to drop the temperature
accordingly. Then when your feetget really really cold, I'm
sayingfascinating the lilacs mouth.
Fascinating as I sleep in my E Tsweatshirt, no lie.
I do. And then when your feetget cold, yeah, then it's time
to pull them back in becauseyour body is already cooled
down.
That's so interesting. I learnedso many neat things

(50:52):
today. Yes, definitely. Wow. Itwas like really, really
enlightening. event I learnedeven more than coming to see
you, which was good. Because wedon't usually get to talk for
like 15 minutes. So it's great.
He's busy. Everybody's busy.
And I get I get people get madat me because I am so busy

(51:13):
now. But I don't I got it. Youknow, I
get it. If you have any moretime. Yeah, you do. Yeah. Just
say any more time and then weset up separate.
Right? Yeah, he'll work withyou. So this was awesome. Thank
you so much today, Dr. mattoni.
For being here. That was justtruly great. Great, great
information. So how can peoplefind you? How can they book an

(51:36):
appointment?
They can go on to Atlantiswellness.com. And you can you
can just request an appointmentthere. Very, very simple.
Nice. Can you get the pillowthere?
You cannot you'd have to go toNEC nest.com. Or when you come
into the office, we're doingthis whole new thing with this

(51:59):
whole wellness experience. Yeah,so you can get it in the office.
But I just don't. We don't sellit online through Atlanta's
Very good. Yeah, that's awesome.
Well, thank you. And thanks,everyone for listening. We hope
that you found thisenlightening. Please be sure to
subscribe to our podcast we canbe found wherever you get your
podcasts.
And you can find Lila and myselfon Instagram at spill the ginger

(52:24):
tea podcast. So if you havequestions or comments, or ideas
for future shows, we definitelywant you to write us and give us
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