E55: Bye Week Banter: What Team Do We Want to Face? (with Morgan Cannon)

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Jason Harwood (00:41):
welcome to another episode of Talking Grit.
I'm Jason Harwood and JacobLitton is here as well.

Morgan Cannon (00:46):
and

It's kind of an interesting week for Lions fans.
We are in the playoffs, but wedon't have a game this weekend
because we earned that firstround bye.

Is designed to

We thought we'd invite Morgan Cannon on, we're
going to talk about the coachingcarousel.
We're going to rank the NFC QBs,and we're also going to talk
about who we'd want to face inthe playoffs.
Morgan, have you recovered fromSunday night yet?

My voice is I would say 80 percent back, so
I'm not mad at that.
So yeah, I'm okay.
How about you?

Yeah, I'm getting there.
Jacob's yelling at his TV.
I'm in the stadium yelling.
We're all, going into workMonday.
We got a whole nother week torecover.
So we got some good footballgames to watch this weekend.
I'm really looking forward tohaving a stress free football
weekend, a playoff football

Me too.
Like wildcard weekend is alreadyone of my favorite weekends in
sports and so making it like theLions got the one seed, it's
just that much sweeter,

and like

Jacob (01:42):
Right.

Playoffs are like expanding it.
Cause they started tonight.
So you got college footballplayoff game tonight, tomorrow,
and then you got playoff gamesfor the next three days.
You got five straight games,five straight days of playoff
football.
Can't complain about that.

No.

All right, Morgan.
So Jacob and I already talkedabout the Minnesota game on our
podcast the other night.
I kind of wanted to just getyour quick thoughts on the game.
I know you did a writeup on aMeek Robertson.
So why don't you touch on him alittle bit, and then maybe I got
a couple more followup questionsfor you.

Oh, amicus just quickly.
You could see when you turn onthe tape, like they had a plan.
And he was jamming Jefferson andAddison at the line of
scrimmage.
I had an old defensive backscoach like on our staff and used
to tell our DBs he'd go aheadand choke the, you know what out
of them, get up there and chokethat man.
You know what I'm saying?
Grab up there, on the, high onthe chest plate and inside the

(02:36):
shoulder pads and let them knowyou're there.
a couple of times early, you sawhim jam Jefferson and
Jefferson's head snapping backand receivers don't like that
man.
And then he was also executingthis like fake jump jam.
I'm sure they have a betterterminology for it, but he
essentially.
gets up, like walks up to theline of scrimmage at the last
second, acts like he's going toshoot his hands like he's been

(02:58):
doing where he's messing you up.
And then he doesn't do it.
It's almost like a ghost rushfor an edge rusher, and it was
really, it was throwingJefferson's timing off.
And you kind of saw that yes, alot of it was on Darnold, but
there was a lot of just, therewasn't a lot of cohesion in
their passing game the entirenight.
so yeah, it was just, it was alot of fun to watch.
That stadium was loud.

(03:19):
We were talking about it beforewe jumped on.
It was up there in terms of likeatmospheres.
I wouldn't quite put it on parwith the Rams or Bucks game from
last year, but it was close andthat's saying something for a
regular season game,

yeah, it affected the game.
That's for sure.
They should have had a littlemore delay of game act and I
didn't, I wasn't a payingattention to that in the stadium
as much as hard.
I'm not really looking at theplay clock too much because I'm
really just watching howeverybody's lining up.
But basically on replay, I waslike, Oh, yeah, they were delay
of game and all over the place.
So,

good friends that sits with me, he's always
looking at it.
And I, a couple of differenttimes, I swear he was jumping up
like, ah,

Yeah.
Yeah.
Jacob and I talked about thatthe last game that I really want
them to fix that.
I don't like that.
The subjective Nate, it shouldbe objective zero.
You're done.
It should not be subjective.
Yeah.
It that's the way it should be.
So the other big thing in thegame was Alex Anzalone's return.
If you look at the DVOA numbers,why Alex was with our defense,

(04:19):
we had the number one rateddefense.
He left.
We went.
All the way down to 32.
And then we had a resurgence inthis game.
Do you think that was acoincidence or do you think Alex
really makes that big of animpact?

I really do think Anzalone's, he's a big time
player, man.
And he knows this defense.
You think about it, he's gotties to Aaron Glenn.
Going, way back to New Orleans.
And he's a force multiplier inmy opinion.
And what I mean by that is, he'staken things off Jack Campbell's
plate they can use Jackdifferent ways and they trusted
him a lot just manned up againstHawkinson Anzalone.

(04:56):
I will say he's a really wellrounded, linebacker and every
phase, but my opinion, his breadand butter, the thing that's
going to make him like stick inthe NFL for like as long as he
wants is his ability to, covertight ends like in the open
field.
Hawkinson's a good receiver, saywhat you will.
People I know have certain kindof feelings about what he said
when he left Detroit and thisand that, but he's a good

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player.
And I, some of that factors intohis Darnall, just being
uncomfortable all night.
Shout out Levi on Zarique.
He has credited with ninepressures on PFF.
I charted him with eight, so Idon't know, but still eight is
crazy.
So he had a monster game.
But yeah, I would say Anzalonedoes.
I wouldn't say, I don't thinkthe Lions are going to hold
people to nine points everysingle game, but I think he's a,

(05:43):
he's what makes this defensestir at this point without
number 97.
You know what I mean?

Yeah.
We had talked about this before,like how many stops do you need?
And Alex at least provides uswith a few stops and that's with
this offense that might be allwe need in the playoffs is just
two or three extra stops that wewould get with, without him
gone.
Let's move on to some news thisweek.
Jahmyr Gibbs got offensiveplayer of the month for December

(06:12):
and January.
But he's also nominated forFedEx air and ground NFL player
of the year.
So he's up there with some goodcompany, Jacob who's he up there
with.

Jacob (06:21):
Yeah, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, running
back Saquon Barkley, and thenwide receiver Jamar Chase.
Obviously, these are the best ofthe best, the elite guys.
It's an honor that he's evenlisted up there with them, but
he deserved it, man.
He, he had a great year,especially, I mean, if you're
considering you look at hisstats, I mean, he had a hundred
less carries than SaquonBarkley.

(06:42):
So of course he's not going tohave as many yards yards per
attempt.
Derrick Henry had 5.
9, Saquon 5.
8, and then Ja has 5.
6.
I mean, that's elite level play,

And if you look at, he out received safe on
Barkley, which I was surprised.
He like Considerably got likealmost double the amount of
receiving yards on sequence.
I was kind of surprised by that.
And obviously Jameer led the NFLand touchdowns too.
So with 20, which, for a parttime player, I don't want to say
a part time player.
He's been full time last fewweeks, but with date demo,

(07:15):
they're essentially split intime.
So pretty amazing for the secondyear player.

20 touchdowns is crazy and he finished it was
like 1959 yards from scrimmageif I'm not mistaken.
So like sniffing 2000 yards fromscrimmage, like you said, Jason
sharing time with another reallygood running back in this
league.
And I'm so excited.
He's going to be back for thedivisional round, from Dan
Campbell.
He expects him back.
So yeah, to see so muchrecognition.

(07:43):
I also, I don't know if y'allsaw this, And people can, if
they're listening to this, maybethey already know, but Kirby
Joseph posted a couple likecryptic, happy things at two or
three today.
Both on Instagram and Twitter.
So I wonder if he got all pronews cause doesn't

Okay.

It drops

Okay.

I wonder if he, his agent gave him a call.

Yeah, I might give him a heads up.
Huh?

Jacob (08:09):
hope so.

Me too, man.

Guy deserves it, man.
Absolutely.
The game on Sunday was the mostwatched Sunday night football
finale since 2012.
There was a lot on the line and,but it kept America's attention.
I expect the lions to get a lotof primetime games next year.

Yeah.

whole nation's pretty, behind us and they

Jacob (08:31):
Yeah.
Yeah.

to get into too much, but we have murderers row
and.
The IRA way schedule is going tobe tough next year.
And we play all seven of the NFCplayoff teams next year too.
And then today's school was putin the all pro first team.
So NFL PA all pro first team,the NFL PA does that.
But he was the only one to makethat list, but well deserved

(08:56):
didn't make PFFs.
All pro first team.
Another chink in the PFF armor,if yes.

It's gotten bad, man.
I'm not trying to be a hater andit used to be than it is now,
but for a while, like if youtalk to like football people,
like coaches, like in highschool or college or, definitely
NFL players like stick theirnose up at it, you guys have no
idea.
And then, yeah, I just, it'scrap, man.
They had some, a lot of people,I know the offensive line

(09:26):
community, like Brandon Thorneand Duke many weather who runs
that facility out.
And I think it's Arizona liketrains, everybody, offensive
lineman wise, they were alllike, what is this?

Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Anybody that watches footballknows that Penne is the guy and

of one

exactly.
And someone else wants Penne andsomeone else instead of Penne,
go ahead and have them.
We'll keep our guy.

who keeps hool always.
Thank you.

Jacob (09:51):
Yes.
Okay.
All right.
Here's the question that I wantto ask.
So there's currently 6 headcoaching jobs available.
Those are the Raiders, the Jets.
Those two do not have a GM.
Then you have the Jaguars,Bears, Patriots, and the New
Orleans Saints.
So there's six jobs out there.
So Morgan, we'll start with you,but if you are a coach and you

(10:12):
got to pick out of those six,what team is at the top of your
list?
And what team do you think wouldbe like an absolute?
No.

So I tried to look at this like analytically.
So I'm considering everythinglike what division they're in
the shape of the roster.
The owner, that's a big one, inmy opinion, that a lot of people
I think that's why Aaron Glenn,if you guys didn't, I know you
guys know, but denied no thanksto the Patriots.
Cause what did y'all do forGerard Mayo, man?
You gave him a terrible rosterand.

(10:43):
I don't know.
That's probably for a

Jacob (10:44):
Yeah.
That's a terrible look.

yeah, man, it's just not good.
Not good.
Optics if I were going to pick,I would lean new Orleans because
I think you're going to get afresh start at it.
I like the GM in place there.
They've been, a winningorganization before I know
they're, this year was tough andthat kind of things, post Drew
Brees era.
But I think you get a long leashbecause they are in cap

(11:07):
purgatory.
So you're gonna, you're gonnahave a little bit of runway.
I think it'll be like a five orsix year contract, because
they're, the owner's got to knowHey, this is going to take a
little bit of time.
Cause you guys kick the can downthe road, financially speaking
for.
long time.
And now that bill's kind of comedue for all the salary cap is
fake people out there.

(11:27):
No, it is not.
I promise you that thing alwayscomes due.
That's probably what I would do.
And I'm also considering thedivision, them being in the NFC
South.
The other one that came closefor me, was the Raiders.
Cause it looks like they'regoing to get a clean reset, GM
everything.
and I just the Raiders jerseystoo.
It's pretty cool.
What about you guys though?

You can go ahead, Jacob.
I'll go after you.

Jacob (11:52):
I actually, I like the Saints for pretty much all the
reasons that you had alreadysaid, just, the idea that you
probably, you have a couple ofyears, you don't have to worry
about doing like what thePatriots did and kind of
abandoning the ship right away.
And you also don't have theissue with the Jets where it's
you, you have to win right now,or you have that perception of,
it just, it's gonna be tougherto win that division and
everything.
So the Saints, I like, I alsolike the Jaguars though.

(12:15):
The Jaguars, they have the capspace.
They have a top pick.
They have some decent pieces tothe team right now.
I think they have decentownership and kind of the same
thing as the Saints, where theJaguars historically, you're
going to get a few years.
They're not going to come inthere and fire you after one
year if you don't perform.
So those are my two spots.
I definitely like.

(12:36):
The Patriots, they have the capspace, they have the pick,
historically good franchise andeverything.
Just, I don't know, I'm notliking the male thing really
rubbed me the wrong way.
And I just, obviously coacheswant to be a head coach.
So somebody wants that job, butI think it's very telling the
AGE just flat out was like, nothings.
I don't even want an interview.

Hilarious.
Honestly,

Yeah,

Jacob (12:58):
do you think of Jason?

think the writing on the wall with the Patriots
are that variables the guybecause if you look at the two
interviews that they had, Imean, they had to minority
candidate interviews, which, byBrian will laugh, which is not
going to get ahead coaching jobthat just clears the Rooney like
it felt to me like they'reclearing the Rooney rule, and I
don't like that they rubbed metotally the wrong way.

(13:21):
It's not.
It's not in the spirit of therule.
I mean, you're going tointerview Aaron Glenn.
Okay, you're interviewing a realcandidate.
Okay.
And they did offer that.
To him, but he read the writingon the wall for able to go in
there.
Patriots are out just because ofthe whole Mayo thing.
with you, Jacob.
I liked the Jaguars just cause Ithink, especially if Ben Johnson
went there, I think he couldreally work well with Trevor

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Lawrence and they got somestuff.
They could.
They are not that far away fromhaving a productive year.
Two years ago, they were likeneck and neck with the lions.
When the lions were coming up,it looked like the Jaguars are
heading up and then the wheelskind of fell off.
I feel like you get the rightleadership in there.
The for me, where the Jaguars istheir fan base.

(14:04):
If you're going to go down therefrom the lions fan base, say
it's Ben Johnson or Aaron Glenndown to Jaguars, you've got a
fan base.
That's really not thatinterested.
You have an owner that wantsmore games overseas than in
house.
And that would be a tough pillfor me to swallow, especially
after being in that stadium onSunday, and then you would go
there now, if he builds awinner, Aaron Glenn, Ben

(14:25):
Johnson, whoever gets a build awinner, maybe that changes
things a little bit, but two ofyour games are going to be
overseas every year.
And that's telling.
I do like the Raiders gig,especially since they got rid of
the GM and they're just going tostart over.
They did fire after first year.
But I feel that was a whole TomBrady thing.
Tom Brady's coming in and wewere said, we're going to, we're

(14:46):
going to clean house.
Hopefully if they, you'd have totalk to him.
Are we going to keep Max Crosby?
Cause if we're going to give upon Max Crosby, you're going to
get a King's ransom, then whatdid they have at the Raiders?
I mean, you better get five orsix years and I don't know how
patient Tom Brady's going to be.
So that would worry me.
New Orleans is okay.
And I think that they have agood ownership group, their QB

(15:09):
situation.
They're going to be moving onfrom Derek Carr.
So you better have a long leashin there.
Yeah.
The ownership keeps me out onthe bears just cause you got,
you're stuck with a GM that'salready there.
So I don't like that.
And what the jets and same thingwith the jets, the owners just,
if you got Chris Spielman havingChris Spielman go as a GM,

(15:29):
that's interesting.
I just, he's interviewing there.
It shocked me that he wasinterviewing for a GM job.
It doubly shocked me that it waswith the jets.
Cause I just don't see him beinga good fit there.
if Chris Spielman turns aroundboth the lions and the jets
franchise, then he deserves tobe in like a different hall of
fame, like something that'sabove the regular hall of fame,

(15:49):
The jets and the bears just areout for me for ownership.

Now I get that they've shown it.
And then there's still, theywere asked, the owner was asked
about McCaskey was asked aboutalignment and he was like, I
don't feel like that'spertinent.
And I'm like, unless I'm justlike, I don't understand that
man.
What are you talking about?

Yeah, I, that makes zero sense.
Like when you say they don'tneed to be aligned, the lines
are a perfect example of whathappens when you are aligned and
you don't work together.
I just, I don't know.
So that being said, Morgan,where do you think Ben Johnson
goes?
Where do you think Aaron Glenngoes?
So Ben Johnson has fourinterviews this week, bears,

(16:29):
Patriots, Jaguars, Raiders,Glenn has five.
Bears, Jets, Saints, Jaguars,and Raiders.
And he, like we said Patriotsaid Hey, come interview with
us.
And Aaron Glenn said, no, thankyou.
So we'll start with Ben Johnsonfirst, Morgan.
Where do you think he's going toend up?

I saw those reports.
I don't know if you guys didabout how Ben Johnson could
stay.
I'm like, Oh my gosh, here we goagain, man.
So if I had to pick one, I thinkI would go Jaguars just for the
reasons, I think Sean Conn whenthe, primary owner there would
open up, he's got money.
Doesn't he own like a pro one ofthe soccer teams, the premier

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teams.
I think he could give Ben whathe's like, okay, I'll leave
Detroit for 60 millionguaranteed dollars.
If I get fired in two years orwhatever, like that's
generational money.
So that's probably my pickthere.
AG, easy saints.
I think he'll get a nice, sixyear deal with the, similar to
Dan Campbell.
Hey We know this is going to bea little bit like could be like

(17:29):
really in it competing again by2028, that would be great, type
deal 2029.
I don't know.
cause they, like I said, theykicked that can financially and
it's that bill has come due allright now with interest.
So that's probably my pick.
What about you guys?

Jacob (17:46):
I actually, I have the same, if Ben Johnson leaves, I'm
pretty sure I hope it's for theJaguars first, get them out of
the NFC.
Yeah, get them out of the NFC.
And, I think that team, top 10offense could be even higher
than that.
Like right away, TrevorLawrence, ETN had a down year,
but Evan Ingram, that rookiewide receiver, Brian Thomas you
know.

Dog.

Jacob (18:05):
got some pieces there.
They get the right coachingstaff and everything.
And I think Ben Johnson doesthat for them and, get some
competing pretty quickly.
And then for AG, I think, he'sgot the history with the jets
and the saints, but we justtalked about the jets I just
feel like that's settingyourself up for failure.
And then you flip over thesaints, the grass looks greener
over there.
And I think he's got a betterhistory over there with the

(18:25):
saints too.
I just, I think it makes toomuch sense for him not to go
there.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's what I think the history is going to
lean towards.
If I lean towards both Glenn andthe saints just match up
perfectly, Ben Johnson, I don'twant to see them go into the
bears because I don't want tomake them.

I

We don't need another division opponent.
We don't need to face them twotimes a year.
And also, I think that'sprobably why he's, if he's going
to make a decision, like you'regoing to go with the bears,
probably the worst ownershipgroup out of the Four teams and
the other ones are lookingstrong.
So that would be a rough go.
I personally think unless if wewin the super bowl, it may be a

(19:04):
deciding factor if we don't winthe super bowl.
I think Ben comes back, but ifwe win super bowl, yeah, I would
say Jaguars probably my leadingcandidate and saints for, Glenn,
the dark horse for both thoseteams is the Raiders.
I, for whatever reason, I couldjust see Aaron Glenn being a
Raider.
I know he's never played overthere, but anything like that,
but he just seems like he couldbe a leader and he would look

(19:25):
good in the silver and black.
It matches

Jacob (19:29):
Yeah.

on the sideline.
Oh my God.
Yeah, that aesthetic would becrazy.

All right.
So let's rank let's rank the QBsin the NFC playoffs.
So we got Jared golf.
Jalen Hurts, Jordan Love, JadenDaniels, Baker Mayfield, Sam
Darnold, and Matthew Stafford.
we'll start with you.

Jacob (19:50):
I also rank these based on where they're standing right
now, how they're playing rightnow versus everything.
Not necessarily, overall skill,but number seven, I have Jaden
Daniels showing flashes.
One season isn't really enoughto go off of to determine how
he's going to react in theplayoff environment.
Then I have Sam Donald, he'salready, that's the best season

(20:10):
he's going to have in hiscareer.
And I think last week wastelling, and this playoff game
is really going to be huge forhim.
Then I've got Baker MayfieldJordan love next Jordan love
when he's on.
He's not worth the contract yetand he hasn't been playing very
well.
Top three.
I've got Stafford number threeand I've got Jalen hurts.
Number two, I've got a golfnumber one.

(20:33):
And once again, not necessarilya golf as the best quarterback
of all these people, skill wiseand everything like that, but
with this team, this offense andwhat he's doing, it's firing on
all cylinders right now.
And I just think he's numberone.

All right, Morgan,

all right.
So I'm not even being a hater.
Sam Darnold.
I'm going just with, how they'vebeen, how they're looking right
now going into the playoffs,right?
Who would I want to have?
Darnold, then I'm gonna goDaniels.
I'm playing really well, butthis is, these are some good
quarterbacks Mayfield and thenLove hurts.
Stafford and then golf for me.

(21:09):
I like I know Stafford's awesomeman.
Some people are gonna be likewhat you're a homer No, listen,
I'm great player like playingreally well But so is golf man
like surgical and some of itsyou know, he's been in this
offense for a long time He'svery comfortable in it.
He trusts he that throw he madeto Jameson on the fourth down

(21:30):
like on the crosser

Jacob (21:31):
Yes.

angle, he got blasted and on the money, Jamo
caught it in stride, hisshoulder, ran over Stephon
Gilmore.
I was like, that's a, like justa grown, you know what man
throw.
And he's doing it so often he'sdropping, the ball into a bucket
50 yards down the field placeball placements crazy.

(21:54):
Yeah, that's my reasoning forthat.

Jacob (21:56):
Yeah.

All right.
So I'm going to start out withnumber seven, Jordan Love.
He has not looked good to me andhe, and playoff football, you
better take care of the ball.
And he's the one that probablytakes the care of the ball the
least, in my opinion, SamDarnold.
I agree with you, Jacob.
Yep.
We saw what looked like in apressure environment last week
and into this game, this is abig money game, for Sam Darnold.

(22:21):
If he wins this, then he's goingto get a bigger contract next
year.
If he goes out and loses,everyone's going to remember the
last two losses, on the linewith the lions and then
everything, in the playoffs.
And you go and lose those,especially now that they're
moving this to a neutral fieldbecause of the fires in
California, that's a big bonusfor Sam Darnold.
He's getting out of enemyterritory.

(22:43):
Not that so far is like this.
It's never the environment thatFord field is, but you know, it
would have a lot more Rams fansthan what's going to happen in
Arizona for sure.
Number five, I'm going to gowith the young kid, Jayden
Daniels, just because.
This is his first time in theplayoffs.
His legs is the differencebetween the other two guys.
He will make some plays happen.
He's thrown some balls on onrope.

(23:05):
He I'm impressed with him.
We'll see how he goes.
I don't really want, I would notwant to face Jane Daniels as a
lion.
I just being able to run around.
I'd rather face Darnold or love,to be honest with you.
Four, Jalen hurts.
I know he's got, he hasn'tplayed exceptionally well this
year.
He's got the concussion thinggoing.

(23:26):
But he does have a lot ofplayoff experience.
So that does give him a leg upon the other guys.
I like Baker Mayfield.
I think that guy is.
A tough player when he, theywere talking about him coming
here.
Like when, whenever I thought,golf, wasn't the guy I was out
on Baker, but what he's done atTampa Bay, I've been really
impressed with him.
And then I'm going to, I matchyou Morgan.

(23:48):
I go Stafford number two.
One Superbowl Sean McVayoffense, he's got good
receivers.
And then I'll take Derek off.
And I know that, it's Alliancepodcast.
I'll obviously we're gonna putyour golf up there, but you look
at the season that golf had, heis the Pro Bowl starter in the
NFC.
For a reason that that he tookthat you mentioned, Morgan just

(24:09):
tells you how tough that guy is.
I mean, he's a tall, lean guy,but man, that was a.
Full man, like that he took andhe got right back up and, he
will do he will do what he needsto in the pocket to complete the
past.
That meant holding it for anextra beat and knowing he was
going to just take a lick.
That was a free runner.
Wasn't it?
I mean, it was right in hisface.

(24:29):
He knew that was coming.

just

So

shy, man.
He's just, he like like that.
And then, know he had the onewhere he tried to float it over
to Craig, which he had gone for20 yards.
If he'd caught that thing, hewas by

no,

and it was just a really good play.
The only one I really waskicking him for, was the deep
shot to JMO and people werelike, Oh, JMO lost it in the
lights.
I'm like, either way, brother,the best thing we were hoping
for there was JMO knocking thatthing down.
He was bracketed.
Even if he

yeah.

never, I was just like, okay, so we just, that was
an arm punt.
That's fine.
I guess.

Jacob (24:59):
On first down.

I know dude, that's exactly

Jacob (25:01):
Yeah.

It was on first up when I was watching that the
other day, I was hoping it wason second or something.
I was like, Nope it down, slideit

no,

Jacob (25:07):
Yep.

we, we stopped them on fourth down and then we
immediately gave it back.
And

that's you're

just tells you how impressive the defense was
because how deflating is thatyou stop them for four downs in,
in zone in the, within the fiveyard line.
And then the offense immediatelygives them back.
And again, that was our rate atmidfield.
Then we had to go and stop themagain, that was so
uncharacteristic of Jared tojust throw it up like that.

(25:33):
I.
I don't know what he was seeingunless he missed the deep safety
and just misread it totally.
And, I don't, he's not a guythat's going to get pressured in
that end zone like that and justthrow it up like that.
He would find someone else tocheck it down to and throw it
out.
So I was totally confused bythat throw.

That's a good point.
Maybe he never saw the deepsafety, but I would love, yeah.
To your point, Jason, I wouldlove to ask him like, brother,
what were you doing there?

Yeah.

trust JMO like that though.
He said,

Yeah.

JMO's down there somewhere.

Jacob (26:03):
right.

When you say arm punt, everybody always thinks of
Stafford and Calvin just throwit up and, anyone blaming JMO on
that?
I mean, the ball should justshouldn't have been thrown.
And

What he threw that, like it's

Yeah.
that's what I thought.
He's there's no way that Jared'sthrowing that up like that.
Yeah.
That was a strange turn ofevents in that game.
Just throwing it up with, wasjust a strange occurrence for
Jared.
And then, but second half hedecided, no, that's not how we
play football here and turned itaround.

Just bounces back.
Exactly.
That's that was my point.
That big long thing.
But yeah, he just bounces backso quick man comes back and
makes a throw or evade somebodyin the pocket and drops a dime.
He just he doesn't blink.
And that's I think that's hugefor a quarterback, especially as
you're about to, buckle upbecause it's winter.
Go home now the rest of the way.
So

Yeah, exactly.

Big boy

on.
Speaking of that, we got all thegames this week.
are four teams that the Lionscould face in the next round.
So I'm going to rank those teamswho we'd want to face in the
divisional round.
So we'll start with you, Morgan.
On this one, you can start fromyour bottom, your least light
team.
You don't want to face all theway up to the number one team
you want to face.

Okay.
I want to preface this with, Ithink the lions are better than
all four of these teams andthere's a chance that any of
them could beat them, but linesare better than all four of
these teams.
Vikings again, I don't want toplay them the third time.
I still think The Lions have theedge obviously, but Jefferson
could go crazy.
You just never know.
It's a, it's another, playingthe team for the third time.
Rams, I think it'll be tough,especially if Stafford's deal.

(27:35):
And again the offense had hit alittle bit of a low even before
they sat people in week 18.
But he's a vet and he's beendoing it forever and ever.
I think they can.
They can easily get catch fireagain.
And Kyra Williams is tough.
and then I would go Packers justbecause they're not playing good
ball either.
Like I firmly believe people arelike, Oh, they didn't, they

(27:56):
probably didn't want to win thatgame.
No dog.
I don't think they wanted to goto Philly.
Okay.
That doesn't seem like somethingthat's smart, right?
So they wanted to win that game.
They just didn't didn't workout.
And then I would go Washingtonand like Jane Daniels, but,
Rookie quarterback.
I know he played at LSU butbrother, this is the NFL.
It's going to be loud in thatcozy little dome and the hounds

(28:16):
of, you know, what be comingafter you.
So I think commies would be ifthey beat the bucks, I would
like that to happen too, becausethen we can just watch the
Monday night game chilling, youknow what I mean?
Cause

Jacob (28:26):
Yeah,

We're already set.

Yeah, that would be nice.
I didn't think of that avenue,but.
rank my teams.
I'll go next.
So I'm going to start at thebottom little Rams.
I just don't want to faceStafford again in the first
playoff game.
I don't want to be there and youhave that whole tired storyline
whatever.
I don't want to hear that.
I'm a little more scared JaydenDaniels than you are.
I don't like his legs.

(28:50):
I don't like the wild card thathis legs bring.
Give me the division.
I know we, we beat them twicealready this year, beating a
team three times is reallytough.
The team Vikings are my numbertwo team.
I think, just facing him twoweeks ago, that it's a short
turnaround and I don't likethat.
And, but give me the Green BayPackers.
I want to beat them at home.
Think we can get, especiallywith Alex back, we're going to

(29:12):
get pressure on Jordan Love andhe'll make a mistake.
I don't, and I don't, MattLaFleur is not very good in the
division for whatever reason isis not good in this division.
So I'll take the Packers athome.
Where are you at Jacob?

Jacob (29:26):
All I don't want to play the Rams.
I have them, my, team, I want toplay the least, we beat them in
the playoffs last year.
We beat them week one.
They're healthy now.
They haven't looked that greatoutside of the Buffalo game,
but, you Stafford's a veteran,they've got Pucca, Cooper, they
could be a dangerous team.
So I'd prefer not to have toplay them first.
Then I have the Packers, thereason behind putting them

(29:46):
behind the Vikings, cause Ireally feel, obviously I think
we can beat either of them, butyou know, it's been longer since
we've played them and if we areplaying them, that means that
they just beat the Eagles whoare a bigger threat.
So you know, it's cool if theytook out the Eagles, but then,
they probably have some momentumgoing.
They probably had, kind of likethey did last year.
Where they, we're dangerous inthe playoffs, then I've got the
Vikings.

(30:07):
Number 2, that would mean thatwe don't have to play the Rams.
We're playing the Vikings, butwe know that team really well.
We got the best of them lastweek.
I feel if we played them again,it's probably just going to be
almost like an extension of thatgame, except we're.
Going to be a little bithealthier and they're going to
have a play.
They're going to have a game.
They're going to have a battle.
But the number one team I'drather play is the commanders.
I just think the rookie, JadenDaniels coming in forward field.

(30:29):
Obviously, they've got somemomentum right now and they
would have already pulled anupset.
So you've got that whole angletoo, but it's going to be tough
for him to play.
I definitely think that we canoutscore them.
I think we're going to be ableto make enough stops and I think
that would also be the best gamebecause we have not played them
yet.
That's what I'm hoping for, isthat the commanders win,

Yeah.

Jacob (30:47):
to play them next.

I love you and all those points and I agree on
the ram storyline part because Idon't want to hear that again I
also don't want to hear abouthis wife.
Please God

Jacob (30:57):
Yes,

what's the line for the Bucs?
Are they even because the Bucslook like trash last week man
Like I didn't really think

Jacob (31:03):
The Bucks are favored by three right now.

know okay, and they're home.
So really it's just like kind ofa flip

Em, yeah.

interesting

Yeah, I if I was like thinking, I was like man
you could face the Rams and thenthe Bucs.
So they could replete, repeatlast year's playoffs the two
teams that we'd have to play.
That could be a scenario.
And,

Jacob (31:26):
I'd be okay with that.

Yeah, that's fine.
Honestly, I'm not that scared ofthe eagles, man.

Jacob (31:30):
I feel like we're better than them.
I know they've got the hype andeverything, and their defense is
playing really well,

it's such a coaching mismatch.
Like I, Sirianni is going to getwalked, man.
I just don't.
And the Eagles like with theinjuries right now, you could
argue the Eagles have a moretalented roster.
I said this with a video I didwith Miko.
I, cause they're they're, youthink about their defense, Slay,
Quinion Mitchell, CJ Gardner,Johnson.
They got like just dudes, JalenCarter.

(31:56):
and like a lot of our, dudes arehurt, but I just don't like if
we, if you bottle up, if Saquonstat line looks like 26 carries
for 86 yards, you're probablynot winning that game.
If you're playing the lions, Igot news.
You know what I'm saying?
Like Their defense, I've heardtheir defense is good.
That's cool.
And all.
Buckle up dog.

(32:17):
That's all I got to say.
I think

Right.

last week, like the Lions deep offensive didn't
even play that well.
Turn the ball over two times andscored 31 points.

Jacob (32:27):
I guess

I get to Brian Flores defense, right?
I mean, we just always put up 30points on them.
The Eagles haven't faced theLions offense, and I don't think
there's many.
many teams that are going to beable to stop them consistently.
Like you said, the first half,the Lions shot themselves in the
foot last week.
It's good.
Then the defense was on theirkey or P's and Q's, or we would

(32:50):
have been playing from behind inthat second half.
Still could have came back.
Cause Sam Darnold was not, hewas not good last week.
He was bad.

New.

Jacob (32:59):
think the Eagles have the potential to have the biggest
threat, but they also like.
They've just had some bad games.
I mean, they're winning, butlike the game against the
Panthers was terrible.

Forget.
Drop that ball.
They lost.

Jacob (33:09):
They played the Jaguars earlier.
That was terrible.
Yeah, it was just, a lot ofclose calls for them where the
team didn't look that great.

Yeah.

Yeah, and Jalen Hurst really hasn't looked, good
the last two years, really.
I mean, he, his throws have beenoff.
If you watch it in the Eaglesgames, he is not crisp of the
throws.
A.
J.
Brown was very frustratedearlier this year.
J.
Brown is, was hurt this weektoo.
I don't know if you saw that inpractice, so I, it sounds like
he might be good to go, butagain, if they're, They're going

(33:38):
to have an extra game on, in theplayoffs, so more wear and tear
and the lines are going tohopefully come in fresh, which
gives us a big advantage.
Plus those teams have to comeinto forward field.
And that is a huge advantage.
We're talking like two or threepenalties, at least that, the
offense is going to have to,delay game or false starts,
something like that.

(34:00):
All right, Jacob and Morgan,we're going to get into a
special edition of Grit Picks.
We're going to pick.
All the playoff games this week.
And we're going to start withyou, Jacob chargers at Houston.
Who are we going to put youpicking?

Jacob (34:18):
Alright, Chargers are favored by three points as the
away team at Houston.
I just have not been impressedwith Houston this season.
They haven't looked greatlately.
CJ Stroud had a really bad yearafter, obviously, his really
good rookie season.
The Chargers have some momentumcoming into this one.
It's Harbaugh's playoff debutfor the Chargers, and I think

(34:38):
the Chargers are going to winthat game.

Who do you got Morgan?

Yeah, I'm going to take the chargers with the
points to honestly, like Houstonkind of limped into the playoffs
man.
Offensive line is just notplaying well to put it politely.
Chargers play a physical brandof football.
Harbaugh brought that set thatculture sunk in quick.
So I'm picking chargers all day.
This is, that's definitely whatI'm going to put some some money

(35:01):
on.
Yeah.

Jacob (35:02):
Yeah.

I'm going with the chargers as well.
It's surprising how CJ Stroud isjust not looked good all year.
It's, everyone takes it.
He had a great rookie year andhe was just going to come on and
just improve and it's a lot of,it's the offensive line, and
then he's, they've suffered someinjuries, definitely.
And then, Stefan digs gettingher, Nico Collins was out for a
while.
And then Tank Dell, yeah, itgoes down.

(35:25):
Not that those are excuses, buthe, he just hasn't looked good.
And lions gave me through thosetwo picks that those are monster
picks.
I allowed the lines to come backinto the game.
All right.
Margaret, we'll start with youon the next game, Pittsburgh at
Baltimore.
It's going to be on Amazonprime.
So I'll, if you don't haveAmazon, you're not gonna be able
to watch this game, which is,for them people.

That's so annoying, man.
I'm sick of the, I'm sick of theHulu and Amazon prime thing.
I'm just sound like an oldcurmudgeon, but it's true.
Another one I'm going to take,this is a, I don't know if this
one will be, I don't expect thisone to be super competitive,
man.
Pittsburgh's they've lost fourin a row.
Russell Wilson has turned intoDenver.
Russell Wilson.
He's back into a pumpkin form.

(36:07):
Yeah.
And then just don't like, I knowPittsburgh's defense is good.
They're very familiar with eachother.
Obviously.
it's eight and a half, isn't it?
Jacob

Jacob (36:17):
Nine and a half right now.
Yeah.

Oh

Jacob (36:19):
Nine and a half towards the Ravens.

Okay.

That's crazy for a playoff game.

dude.
In a division.
Do you know what I'm saying?

Jacob (36:25):
Yeah,

baltimore at the points.
I just think Lamar is going tochew them up when it's all said
and done.
We'll bite you.

Yeah.
I'm going with Baltimore too.
This one seems almost too easyto pick, which sometimes spells
that it's going to go the otherway, but you're limping into the
playoffs.
Russell Wilson is RussellWilson.
As long as they don't let up anymoon balls, they'll be all
right.
But I'm going with Baltimore.

Jacob (36:50):
Yeah, me too.
I mean, the Ravens have won fortheir last five games.
Steelers have lost for theirlast five.
They did split the series thisseason.
One game, one to one.
But I think the Ravens are justgoing to be too much for the
Steelers.
It counts more, right?
I mean, they're playing at ahigher level as the playoffs as
winner go home.
They're giving it everythingthey have.
And if the Ravens are givingeverything they have, their best

(37:11):
beats the Steelers at theirbest.
And they haven't even beenplaying close to their best.
So I definitely think Baltimoreis going to win that.

Yep.
And then the Mike Tomlin talkwill happen in Pittsburgh, get
us to the playoffs and we don'tdo anything again.
I like Mike Tomlin, but he,

Wilson, man.
That's what I'm saying.
What are y'all talking?
I saw that today on the TV.
I was like, what are we talkingabout here, man?
He had Russell Wilson.

yeah, exactly.

out there trying to fight people in the middle of
the game.
He's so frustrated.

Jacob (37:37):
Yeah.

Just

What is it with Pittsburgh getting crazy wide
receivers?

he's hilarious, man.
He's one of the funniest, likethey threw, he threw that pick
like a few weeks ago and Pickensdidn't even try tackling the guy
who caught the ball.
He just started fighting the DB.
Like

Jacob (37:52):
Yeah.
That was Saner still, on thecommanders.

your right.
Jacob,

Jacob (38:00):
It was like right away.
As soon as the pick happened, hewas like, it was like hockey.
He was like, we're doing thisright now.

was like, let me cry.
And the first time I saw it, Ihad tears rolling down my face.
I was like, this man justdoesn't care anymore.
He's you know what?
I wasn't going to get that ballanyway,

Jacob (38:16):
So good.

Oh, that's hilarious.
Alright, Next game this timewe're on Sunday, 1pm at CBS
Denver at Buffalo.
Actually, I think this is goingto be a pretty decent matchup.
I'm going to take Buffalo inthis one.
Oh, we're going to set up amonster matchup of Baltimore and
Buffalo the following week.
So I'm going to go with Buffalo.
What about you, Morgan?

Yeah, I'm going to go Buffalo too.
I think it'll be interesting tosee Denver's defenses.
tier.
Like I like watching them playball.
I just, I don't know, man.
I don't think Bo Nix is going tobe able to keep pace.
We'll see what Sean Payton hascooked up.
He's been there, done that.
So that has to count forsomething in these situations.
But yeah, I don't, if Josh Allengoes into, super saying mode,

(38:58):
what are you really going to do?
We'll see


Jacob (39:02):
Yeah Bo Nix, can he win a playoff game in his rookie
season on the road?
It's gonna be tough with thecoaching and everything, and the
Broncos defense.
This is actually, I picked theupset here, and I actually
picked the Broncos to beat theBills.

Oh,

Jacob (39:15):
Bills are favored by nine points.
Nine points against the Broncos.
I mean, which is funny becauseif you told me that the Bills
won this game by 24 points, Iwould believe you, but I also
just think if the Broncos hangaround long enough, they might
pull an upset here.

Be cool.
Nine's a What do

Nine is a lot in this game.

Jacob (39:33):
Some of those spreads were for a couple of these were
really high.

Crazy.

I would take the points if I was going to go that
way, I think Buffalo is going tomove on this week, but.
I think that's going to be asneaky, good matchup, especially
with the spread up to nine,Denver's defense, all it takes
is, a turnover here or there,but at the end of the day, I'm
going to trust Josh Allen overBonix.

Jacob (39:54):
I haven't seen the weather for that either.
I don't know exactly how bad itis in Buffalo right now, but,

I was

Jacob (39:59):
cause that's always a factor too.

Hopefully it snows its butt off, man.
That'd be great.

Jacob (40:03):
Yeah,

good That's what I want.

If it says it's put off there, it might snow
here too.
Green Bay at Philly.
That's the Sunday 4 30 gamebeing up there.
I don't know what the weather'sgoing to be in Philly.
with you, Jacob, who are youtaking in Green Bay at Philly?

Jacob (40:17):
This, this might be a good game.
I think it depends on whatJordan Love that we see and how
healthy Jalen Hurts is.
Jordan Love is also hurt, so Imean, we don't, I could
definitely see a scenario where,you know, just like last year,
there are 7 seed, they come in,they upset the 2 seed and they
look pretty good doing it.
I think the Eagles defense isgonna make it really hard for

(40:38):
Jordan Love to get comfortable.
It's really hard to play inPhiladelphia.
And I just don't want thePackers to win.
I'm going to pick the Eagles inthis one.

All right.
I'll go next.
I'm picking green Bay.
Actually.
I think green Bay is going to goin there and run the ball and
put some pressure on Jalen hurtsand he's just not going to be
able to get the, get it done.
I'm actually picking the upside

Jacob (41:00):
Interesting.
Yep.

Yeah.
I'm maybe it's reverse magic.
Maybe I'm doing what you didearlier.
Just picking the

Jacob (41:06):
It didn't work earlier.
So yeah, I'm done with that.

Yeah,

me now for you.
All right, Morgan, who Phillygreen Bay, who you got?

If that happened, Jason, at least we would know
who we're playing nice andearly,

Exactly.

Jacob (41:19):
Yeah.

I'm gonna go Philly.
I just don't.
If Green Bay were playingbetter, like if we were, I don't

Yeah.

maybe I'd be more inclined.
But like y'all said, man, I justJordan loves not playing all
that well.
They're banged up like J.
R.
J.
R.
Alexander's out.
Christian Watson's done.
I don't know.
If Philly is able to slow downJosh Jacobs and they can't run
the ball at all.
I feel like that offense isgoing to look a lot like it
looked against the hands acouple of times.

Jacob (41:45):
Yeah.

Mhm.

So that's why I'm gonna go Philly, but it'd be fun
if Green Bay won again.
That'd be, I think, like y'allsaid, a good matchup.
Come on here one more time for athird one.

It'll be interesting because the, I think
if green bay wins that they'llput us on the lions on the
Saturday night game, as opposedto a Sunday game.
Cause I don't, I assume they'regoing to do one AFC game on
Saturday, one NFC game and theyprobably don't want to put the
Rams or Minnesota.
They're not going to put them onSaturday.
That'd be a short turnaroundMonday to Saturday.

(42:15):
So if I think if green, if thesituation in green Bay wins,
we'll play on Saturday night,which for me personally would be
better.
I'd rather play on Saturday.
That way I got a day on Sundayto kind of recuperate.

That's a great

exactly.

idea.

So maybe that's in the back of my mind, but
maybe that's where I'm comingfrom.
Washington and Tampa Bay.
This is probably the game I'mmost looking forward to.
Cause I think it has a chance tobe the most competitive out of
all of them.
Sunday night, 8 PM is Sundaynight football NBC.
I'll start here.
I'm going to go.
This one's a toss up for me.
I'm going Washington.

(42:48):
Depends on what Baker may feelwe get in this game, the bucks
have looked good.
And then they've looked reallybad too at a different time.
So I don't know, but I'm goingto go with Washington.
Washington looked really good.
The last time I saw them play onthat Sunday night football with
that that was a really fun gameto watch.
see, but I'm going Washington.
We'll go to you next, Morgan.

I'm going to go com commanders to almost like
commies.
I always call them commies thatI'm talking about them
commanders.
Yeah, Tampa Bay's just, they'rebanged up like we talked about.
And I think this is a sneaky, Iwouldn't even call it an upset
really, because I don't thinkThe commander's defense has been
pretty good all year.
They got some nice young pieces.
I think they're getting JonathanAllen back if I'm not mistaken.

(43:31):
Yeah, so I'm gonna gocommanders.
I don't like Baker Mayfield.
I like the way he's beenplaying.
He's a pain to play against.
He's like one of those annoyingcompetitors.
You probably just hate, playingagainst as a defender.
But yeah.
What about you, Jacob?

Jacob (43:44):
Yeah, I definitely, this one I think is probably going to
be the best game in the firstround.
Probably the closest could be ashootout here, but the
commanders have more momentumthan the Buccaneers do and I
think the commanders are goingto win the game.
I go back and forth on this onea lot because I do think it's
probably going to be close Andthis has one of those, Baker 300
yard, three touchdown game,maybe, but I'm still going

(44:05):
Washington.

All right, Minnesota at Rams.
We'll start with you on thisone, Morgan.
Monday night, this will be, thecap off the wildcard weekend.
Who's going to take this one?

I'm going to go Rams.
just, I don't like, it'sanother, this one's going to be
really competitive in myopinion.
And I closer to a coin flip thana lot of people want to admit,
but yeah, I'm going to go Rams.
Just, I think Minnesota, if theyif the Rams can run the
football, like if Kyron Williamscan get going and then Stafford
can get into the play actionand, stretch them out vertically

(44:40):
and horizontally, I thinkthey're going to be good on
offense against Minnesota.
And then defensively, like ifthey heat up Sam Darnold and you
get a version of Sam Darnoldthat was in Detroit last week,
they're going to be in trouble.
I think.

I agree.
Yep.
I'm going to, I'm I'll go next.
I think the Rams are going towin this one.
Brian Flores is set up to stopcertain offices, offenses, and
it's.
I don't think it's Sean McVay'soffense.
He got Matt Safford in there,another veteran quarterback.
It's going to be able to readthe blitz, kind of know what's
coming.

(45:14):
I, I trust him in this situationmore than I trust Sam Darnold.
And when we get into theplayoffs, a lot of it can come
down to a good quarterback play.
So I'm going to, I'm going totake the Rams there going to
Arizona gives it gives Minnesotaa little more advantage, but I
don't think enough to dissuadethe results of the game.
So I'm going with the Rams.

Jacob (45:34):
Yeah.
Updated a betting line.
The Vikings are favored by twoand a half points, which I
didn't see if that moved howmuch that moved after they, move
the game.
But, I think the loss of theLions just took a lot of wind
out of Sam Darnold and theVikings.
It was a tough game.
They've got another tough gameahead of them.
I mean, you already made thepoint, Jason Stafford, being

(45:54):
able to read where the Blitz iscoming from, being able to
navigate through, theydefinitely have the tools,
especially in short yardagesituations, being able to get
open quickly It's going to be along day.
I think it is going to be aclose game, but I've got the
Rams winning.
Um, the Vikings celebrated afterwinning the game against the
Packers.
And I think that's going tohaunt them.
I think that's the last timethey're going to celebrate.

that's such a weird celebration.
I, we talked to a reef andHassan that covers Minnesota and
he's still, he didn't reallyeven have the answer of what
they were celebrating.
So whatever it is, what it is,we're going to get the late game
either way.
Is that what you think, Morgan?
We're going to add the late gameon site because there's a six 30
on Sunday or an eight o'clock onSaturday.

(46:38):
I bet you the Ram or the Lionsget.
The late game either one.

Yeah, it'll be like if Washington beats Tampa,
then I think we'll, I don'tknow, we'd maybe hopefully have
a chance to be the earlier game.
Maybe they won't think that's

Okay.

one.
Maybe that.
What do you think?
I don't know.
Sunday afternoon type deal.

I don't know.
I think the lions are that team.
I don't know.
Hey, but

True.

It might put the NFC at both the lake.
I don't well, I don't know a

Jacob (47:03):
Usually the one seed plays in the later game,

Yeah

Jacob (47:06):
right?

good point.

might be

Jacob (47:10):
I don't know that for sure, but I think that's usually
how they do it.

And the lines do.
yeah,

Yeah,

numbers every time they're on.
That's a good point to Jason,like the team and all that,
yeah.

If they if we get green Bay, it's definitely going
to be, I think it'll be theSaturday night, eight, eight 30
game.
I think that'll bring hugenumbers.
And cause you know, your greenBay fans will watch, obviously
it'll, that'll be a huge game,but So I wanted to ask you,
Morgan.
So going into the season, howmany wins did you have the lions

(47:42):
with going in?
Do you remember what youpredicted them to win?

Yeah, when we did our season predictions for the
pride for pride of Detroit, likethe whole the big article, I was
13 and four.

Okay.
Yeah.
Big faith.
Jacob, what were you at?

Jacob (47:57):
We both actually had 12 and five,

and five.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So definitely exceededexpectations, especially with
all the injuries.
I mean,

Jacob (48:06):
right?

crazy what Dan Campbell's brought here.
And I think when we talked aboutall the coaching stuff,
everyone's going to try toreplicate what we have here.
And I think Aaron Glenn isprobably the closest you're
going to get to Dan Campbell asfar as And just what he means
even more than Ben Johnson.
I think Aaron Glenn just strikesme more as a leader of men.
Not that Ben Johnson doesn't, Ithink Ben Johnson's a super

(48:29):
smart guy, but Aaron Glenn justhas, he just commands the room
better than more than BenJohnson, I feel there's Dan
Campbell is truly one of one andyou.
gets so much buy in from hisplayers.
And that's why you looked at forme, that's why with this injury
stuff, that's why we turned outso good.

(48:51):
And Kyle Shanahan, the 49ers,their team faltered, I, they,
Dan Campbell kept everybody onthe right track, and that's
going to be just hard toreplicate.
Just like you couldn't replicatePatriot wave because no one else
is bill Belichick and hecouldn't command the respect.
And so that, why that, that keptfailing.
So it'll be interesting people.
The lion way or whatever youwant, Dan Campbell way.

(49:13):
We'll see.
I think Aaron Glenn's going tobe the closest that you can get
though.

Yeah, I'm excited for a G is a head coach because
I think that's going to be he'sgoing to be a culture guy.
However, you want to phrase it,he's going to instill, put his
fingerprints all over theorganization and get the right
people in place to make it work.
Yeah, they're in the NFC, but atleast they're not in the
division.
But I always think of what DanCampbell said.
It was several weeks ago he saidwe have something six more games
remaining or seven more games.

(49:38):
And I was like, wait, we onlyhave, so and so regular season
games left, but then I did the,Oh, One, two, three.
And that's when I was like, Oh,that's what he means.
So it's just cool, man.
You can tell it's been on there.
It's been on their minds thiswhole time.
And they've just beenmethodical, right?
Like they celebrated last week,but it wasn't like they weren't
popping champagne.
It was like, all right, let'sput on our hat and t shirts and

(49:59):
take some pictures and play somemusic, but just

Yep.

man.
I love

Yeah, I, it's very when you listen to all the
press conferences, like I do,and you listen to all the player
interviews, it is one message,all the players say, and it's
not like you have to say this,they just have one mindset going
into this, into, to the nextgame.
And it is very clear that DanCampbell tells them the message

(50:28):
and they all buy into it becausethey're, they all say the same
thing.
And that's the benefit ofgetting the players that they
get, you get.
think that's more important thanof the skills that these players
have.
Are they going to buy in?
Are they going to be a part ofthis team?
And you'll see players that Ithink Isaiah Buggs was one of
those players that probably didnot act that way because he was

(50:50):
not long for this team.
They kept, they got rid of him.
Even though I like Buggs as aplayer, I just think that, I
think he rubbed someone on thecoaching staff the wrong way
because he wasn't, even thoughhe was good, he was gone.

Jacob (51:02):
He was also vocal about not playing, and he had that
whole kind of distraction thing.
So it was like, you're right.
If you're not buying in, you'renot going to be here.

Mm hmm.
Which I'm totally fine withbecause you win a lot better
with everyone pulling the samedirection as opposed to the one
or two guys pulling the otherway because then they start
pulling other guys with them.
at a workplace where thathappens and, I know it's not the
same as a football team, butit's like that.
You get a couple, couple badapples and then everything
starts to rot.

Yep, that's true.

All right, Morgan.
What's you working on now forpride of Detroit?
You got anything you're cookingup right now or anything you
don't Miko?

So we created a video this, this evening, it'll
drop tomorrow morning, just aquick little rundown of he
talked about the coordinatorsthe other day.
We just touched on some of theplayoff storylines going into
into the wildcard weekend.
Prior to Detroit, we haveeverything like the, we have an
updated coaching tracker.
If you guys want to go overthere and just keep that open on
a tab on your browser.

(51:59):
Jeremy and Eric are updatingthat constantly.
Who's interviewing where.
All that good stuff.
It's very comprehensive.
I'll probably chill this week.
I don't know that I'll writethat much.
I just I'm really excited tojust kick my feet back, man.
Like it's something I put I'dsaid on the V the video with
Miko lines, fans need to soakthis in, like one seed it's just
a really cool opportunity and oflike only two fan bases in the

(52:21):
NFL of the 32 or have thisfeeling this weekend, just the
line Detroit and Kansas city.
You take some time and soak itin.
That's kind of been my messagelately.

Yeah, that's a good

Jacob (52:33):
Yeah, fine.

definitely uncharted waters for us as lions
fans to be able to stay here.

Crazy.

Was it 92 the last time?
The previous time that we hadwanted to play off game when we
beat Dallas, I think we had abuy that time, but I was 12
years old when that happened, soI don't remember it too well.
Too well,

I was two.
So I feel you.

Yeah.
All right.
All right.
We were not friends at thatpoint.
Glad we could actually get thistalk in here and a little stress
free lion talk, which is nice.
So for Morgan and Jacob, I'mJason.
Let's go lions.

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