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What happens when Eastern spiritual practices open the door to demonic possession?

In this episode of The Blind Exorcist, I’m joined by certified exorcist Selwyn Van Wyk from Australia and his client Phoebe, who courageously shares her journey into and out of the demonic realm. Raised in Taiwanese culture, Phoebe explored Taoism, Buddhism, yoga, the Law of Attraction, channeling, and meditation — unknowingly inviting demonic influence into her life.

Together, we walk through her story, unravel how these spiritual practices opened doors to possession, and even share audio from Phoebe’s real exorcism — pausing to explain what’s happening and why.

📌 What you’ll discover in this episode:

✅ How Eastern spiritual practices can invite demonic oppression
 ✅ The dangers of yoga, mindfulness, channeling, and Law of Attraction
 ✅ Real audio from Phoebe’s exorcism and expert commentary
 ✅ How Selwyn identified and cast out the demons
 ✅ Cultural insights into temple gods and spiritual rituals in Taiwan
 ✅ The biblical boundaries of spiritual practice
 ✅ Why curiosity in the wrong spiritual realms comes at a cost

This is one of the most powerful and eye-opening episodes to date. Listen, learn, and share it with someone who needs the truth.


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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Listen, it's time to celebrate.
Here we are, episode number 10.
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Thank you, guys, so much forcoming.
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(00:29):
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
Thank you for the support.
You listening right now.
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squeeze them and say thank you.
You have played such a big partin spreading the love of the
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created.
Thank you very much.
I appreciate it sincerely.
And to think that we startedthis journey together in October
of 2022, seven months ago, dude, that is awesome that I am

(01:23):
blown away by.
There are some people wouldlook at them stats and be like
that's peanuts, but I tell youwhat man for the blind exorcist.
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It gets me even more excited.
And what's the big deal aboutepisode 10?
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That's what I mean by.
We made it across the finishline.
We crossed over to doubledigits.
Now guess what?
We got 11, 12, 20, 30, 50, allthe way up to 99 episodes to
grind and put out so that peoplecan understand that there is

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healing and freedom for them.
So, again, thank you.
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Why not do it, man?
They could have came across thefinish line with us and been on

(02:29):
this journey with us up throughepisode 10.
By the way, you notice I alwaysgot a little bit of funk in the
music I play on here.
You know why?
Because I'm a bassist.
I started on bass guitar.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Then I went to electric guitar.
Then I got taught lead guitarfor several years.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
And I played drums and I was in a gospel choir,
Played drums in the choir.
So that's where this littlehint of funk comes in with old
Justin D Today for episode 10,man, I have something awesome

(03:19):
for you guys.
This is going to be richcontent.
Joining me today is a friend ofmine, Selwyn, who is a
certified, trained exorcistunder Bob Larson Ministries.
He's from Australia.
Also joining me is a client,Phoebe and no, not Phoebe from

(03:40):
Friends.
Phoebe was recently takenthrough an exorcism by Selwyn.
She is from Taiwan.
She used a law of attraction,meditation channeling to draw
now listen to this her soulmateto her.
She was looking for love.

(04:01):
Well, she drew something to her, bro, and, believe you me, it
wasn't good.
She got demons from thesepractices.
Now, even more interesting, weare going to talk about
Taiwanese culture.
Phoebe understands Taoism,Buddhism, yoga, mindfulness,
meditation.

(04:21):
She understands all of thesetypes of practices because she
was raised within them.
She has been to temples.
She has worshipped temple gods.
She has burnt offerings totemple gods.
Even more interesting, she hasbeen to a temple to visit a
medium who spoke what her futurelife was going to be like, to

(04:43):
give her direction.
All of these practices broughtdemons to her, and we're going
to get into this.
Now here's what's really coolabout this episode.
For the first time ever, I'mgoing to play an exorcism for
you to listen to Phoebe'sexorcism, and then a second time

(05:03):
through.
We're going to listen to ittogether and I'm going to pause
it along the way, and Selwyn,Phoebe and myself we're going to
dissect this exorcism and trainyou guys on it.
We're going to explain what'shappening, why it's happening
and how you can avoid gettingthese types of demons.

(05:24):
This is going to be great.
I mean, it's episode 10.
We had to do something awesometo celebrate.
You're going to enjoy this,Trust me.
Oh, and, by the way, share thisout to friends and family.
Make sure to do that, becausethis is a good one.
They're going to dig it.
They're going to like it a lot.
Now let me introduce my guests.
They're going to like it a lot.

(05:46):
Now let me introduce my guests,Selwyn and Phoebe.
Welcome to the Blind.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Exorcist.
Thank you, justin, wonderful tobe here.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Thank you, glad to be here too.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Thank both of you for taking the time to come and
share this with people.
This is going to be verypowerful.
Selwyn, why don't you let thepeople know about you?
Who are you, what do you do, etcetera?

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Thanks, justin.
My name's Selwyn Van Wick.
I was born in South Africa,came to Australia in 1998.
In hindsight, god was preparingme, even as a teenager, to be
in this ministry.
I work full-time as an exorcist.
I'm not financed by anychurches, but I'm completely
financed through ministering topeople every single day.

(06:30):
I probably do up to 10, between8 and 10 exorcisms or
deliverances, whatever youdecide to call it per week, and
I travel around Australia toevery city, rotating to every
city every two months, so I'mconstantly on the move.
I really love what I do andthere's a great need for it in

(06:53):
this country.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
And Phoebe, welcome.
Let's hear a little bit aboutyou.
Who is Phoebe?

Speaker 4 (07:00):
I'm from Taiwan and I moved to Australia in 2017 and
I became a Christian in 2018.
And after I graduated fromuniversity, I moved to Brisbane
and met my husband at church,and I live here now.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
What is Taiwan culture like?
What is it like to be Taiwaneseliving in a country devoted to
temples and temple gods?
Can you explain culturally howyou were raised in this and the
things that you did inside ofTaiwan?

Speaker 4 (07:42):
Yes, Justin, Taiwan Taiwanese really love worship
anything, literally anything.
I remember some people evenworship a stone.
Yeah, I remember there are alot of temples near my home and
my parents would burn incenseand let us to drink it because

(08:04):
they say they think there is aspirit of blessing from the
ascent.
My mom and my grandparents tookme to medium in the temple to
ask some ask for the futureguidance, something like that.

(08:25):
Yeah, that's how I grew up.
We also involved a lot inTaoism as well.
It's pretty similar to Buddhism, yeah.
One more thing is that my momalso involved in Buddhism as
well.
She just liked to worshipanything that can give her

(08:46):
fortune.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Phoebe, you're in Australia.
You were raised in this culture, going to temples seeking
mediums for guidance.
Your mother was in Buddhism,worshiping anything for guidance
.
So you are raised in this verysupernatural spiritual
environment.
You come to Australia, youbecome a Christian.

(09:12):
What happened to make youdecide or believe that you
required an exorcism?
An exorcism?

Speaker 4 (09:22):
Because in Asian culture you have to please your
parents and please Buddha, thoseidols.
You have to give them offerings, you have to chain, like so
many times, you need to burnthem.
We call that paper money to theidols.
Sometimes some idols requirethe streetppers to perform on

(09:47):
their birthday.
They can make your wish cometrue.
So I grew up in this kind ofculture, so I always feel I'm
always not enough until I meetour Lord.
Our Lord doesn't need us toplease him.
He loves me just who I am.
That's the love that I'm alwaysseeking for.

(10:08):
That's why I decide I want tobecome Christian, the first one
in my family who believe inChrist.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Congratulations.
After you became a Christian,what made you need an exorcism?
Did you just wake up one dayand you're like oh, I have
demons, I need an exorcism.
What caused you to seek anexorcist?

Speaker 4 (10:35):
I went to make a church which they don't really
teach you the Bible knowledge.
I didn't even know what Trinityis, bible knowledge, I didn't
even know what Trinity is.
I involved to a law ofattraction, something like that,
and started to do meditationbecause I read a book from a
false teacher.
He said as long as you're aheart-love guy, that's okay.

(10:58):
So I involved to occult andmeditation.
So I involved to occult andmeditation that kind of thing as
well, because I'm looking forlove.
But thank God, even though Idid a lot of wrong things, he
guided me.
He somehow guided me to find a,went to a church where my

(11:21):
husband was there and I met him.
And then we got married.
We always fight with the samethings.
I started to have nightmareswhen I just got married.
I would have very disgustingnightmares every day about my
husband cheating on me.

(11:41):
That makes me didn't want to goto church anymore.
And then we fight a lot and oneday we decide we have to do
fast and pray and that the HolySpirit should guide us.
And somehow we found PastorSalvin's video on YouTube and
then we did.
We follow the deliveranceprayer and only me have the

(12:05):
reaction.
But my husband didn't have it.
That's how we found PastorSalvin.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
So Salvin Phoebe and her husband get were some of the
things that you found that wereafflicting her with regards to
demons.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
Firstly, a wonderful couple got a new little baby and
just a young couple that's nowfollowing God.
But what struck me first wasobviously looking for where is
the demonic hiding?
And it was hiding in her pain.
That went back to her childhood.
There was a lot of abandonment,emotional abandonment, from her

(12:54):
parents.
For example, her mother wasquite verbally and physically
abusive towards her and she madeher feel very worthless in life
, which later on, I'm sure afteryou're going to play some clips
, we'll find out why.
Actually she had made covenantswith these idols, so she always
felt worthless.
And then, from her father'spoint of view, he was a failed

(13:18):
businessman and in their culturethere's a lot of emphasis on
being successful, so they're notreally specifically interested
in the philosophy of thereligion, the average person,
but it's more what can the idoldo for me so that I can please
my parents, please my culture?
So in Asian cultures a lot ofpressure on the children to be

(13:39):
successful, and obviously on thefemale children it's even more
so because sons are veryimportant in that culture.
So this is what I recognizethat there was a lot of
brokenness from childhood.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Selwyn, it's interesting that you mentioned
this, that it goes back to thechildhood.
In almost every person that Iwork with, the traumas are
unresolved.
People go through terriblethings in life, specifically in
their childhood, and so demonsenter through trauma.
And so when there's traumathat's unresolved, you're going

(14:16):
to feel that pain and you'regoing to try to relieve that
pain.
And in Phoebe's case, it wasgoing to idols and trying to get
success and love, definitelylooking for love, rejected from
her mother, the father, and sothis is very common.
So it's interesting to me as anexorcist you guys are in

(14:36):
Australia, phoebe is from Taiwanand the same things happen in
America.
People are looking for lovebecause they have felt rejected
and hurt and betrayed byhusbands, by girlfriends, by
boyfriends.
So there's a lot of this goingon and you're going to try to

(14:58):
fix that pain somehow.
And a lot of times people gotoward.
In Phoebe's culture it wasidols, it was giving offerings,
trying to get success throughthese.
It's fascinating to me that theculture is yeah, there's idols,
there's that, but we reallyjust want to use them for
success to be something theamount of pressure is

(15:20):
unbelievable to be something.
The amount of pressure isunbelievable.
And, guys, I'm going to play aclip of her exorcism here.
You can watch this on YouTube.
I am going to link to it on theblog post and I'm also going to

(15:41):
link to Selwyn's website on theblog post so that those of you
who want to get in touch withSelwyn for help you can.
He's in Australia and peopleover in Europe can get with him,
or anyone from around the world.
So get ready.
This is going to be interesting.
Some of you have never heard anexorcism.
This is, for Selwyn and myself,quite normal.
So we're going to play this allthe way through and you're

(16:04):
going to notice that there'ssome echoes.
There's some car beeps, hereand there, chairs are creaking.
This is done in a building andit's being recorded on a cell
phone.
I've done my best to enhancethe audio.
It's intelligible.
You can understand what's beingsaid and what's going on.
But I just wanted to give you aheads up that it is not going

(16:25):
to be at the quality as to whatyou're used to hearing and after
we're done listening to this,I'm going to go back through it.
We're going to hit pause andSel and Phoebe and I are going
to talk about what's going on.
So first we're going to listento it all the way through and
then, after we'll go back asecond time and hit pause
throughout and discuss what'sgoing on.
Get ready, here it is.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
And I shut down the third eye job.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
Okay, so I'm going to put some oil on your third eye.
Oh Jesus, I shut the third eye.
In the name of Jesus, right Inthe name of Jesus, mark, mind
Mark, mind you, satan, yeah,kundalini, yeah, kundalini.
I want you to look at me.
Kundalini, how many generationsdo you go back?

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Three.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
Was this the grandmother?

Speaker 3 (17:14):
or somebody else.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
I think yes, kundalini.
What part of her body are youin now, kundalini?
Heart, heart still.
Why are you still in the heart?
What's connected with that?
She has a covenant.

Speaker 6 (17:26):
With who?
With me?
How To find love.
Did she?

Speaker 5 (17:31):
use an interest to do this Meditation.
She used meditation to findlove.
Yeah, how old was she?
Was it many times 36?
36.
Look at me, kundalini.
Is there anything else, anyother part of her body you
connected with what?

Speaker 6 (17:44):
about her mind and third eye.

Speaker 5 (17:45):
Third eyes as well.
What about that?
How did that connect?

Speaker 4 (17:50):
Channeling.

Speaker 5 (17:51):
I want you to say now I renounce every part of
Kundalini.

Speaker 6 (17:54):
I renounce every part of Kundalini.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
He is not my source of wisdom.

Speaker 6 (18:02):
He is not my source of life.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
I reject every false word spoken over my life Through
the temples, through thefortune tellers.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
Through my grandmother.

Speaker 5 (18:16):
Through my grandmother, all money she paid
to get words over me to getwords over.

Speaker 6 (18:21):
Cancel the false spirit.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
I cancel all the false spirit of kundalini of
kundalini, break its power but,jesus, I separate the soul and
spirit.
Kundalini wants you to look atme right here.
Do you have any curses left?
Yes or no, say I kundalini overthis woman over this woman of

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God.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
And.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
I receive God's judgment and I bind all spirits
of mind control.
Kundalini, lift every power outof her heart right now and
command you by cross.
Remove it, remove it, stay withme.
Kundalini say I go.

(19:07):
I go Now, now.
Yes, now Now.
Kundalini say now.

Speaker 6 (19:14):
Da tu da pit pit pit.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
Come out of her.
Come out of her in Jesus name.
I cut you off from the base ofher spine.
In Jesus' name, I cut you off.
I bind all the out of servicespirits here, all the nugga
spirits.
I bind them all.
In the name of Jesus, I'll cutyour head.
In Jesus' name, I'll ask you,lord, to remove all the eggs in

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her mind.
Come out of her.
In the name of Jesus, in thename of Jesus, in the name of
Jesus, in the name of Jesus, inthe name of Jesus.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Thank you, lord.
So, guys, we're not playingthis for drama and things like
this.
This is for educationalpurposes.
And thank you, phoebe, forbeing willing to allow this to
be exposed, because that's whatthis ministry is all about
exposing the darkness, revealingthe light.

(20:20):
So I'm going to go back throughthis now and I'm going to pause
at certain points and we'regoing to discuss what's going on
, to expose this, so that peoplecan understand really what's
going on.
So I'm going to restart thisnow and then I'm going to hit
pause and then I will begindiscussion around what's going

(20:40):
on.
So here we go.

Speaker 6 (20:41):
And.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
I shut down the third eye, John.

Speaker 6 (20:43):
Okay so.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
I'm going to just put some oil on your third eye.
Oh Jesus, I shut the third eye.
In the name of Jesus, right, inthe name of Jesus, mark, mind
you, satan.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah, okay, I'm going to pause it right there.
Third eye in confrontation.
So, selwyn, I'm going to letyou talk about the third eye in
just a moment.
But a lot of people say I don'thave demons.
I don't believe I have demons,that's because they've never
been confronted.
What you're experiencing here iswhen Selwyn stepped up and said

(21:16):
Satan, this was a directconfrontation in the spirit
realm which caused the demon tohave to step up and manifest,
take over the personality, thevoice, the body and so forth,
because it's a direct spiritualconfrontation.
Most Christians have never hadtheir demons confronted in this

(21:39):
fashion.
They live very comfortably inmost Christians because most
churches don't teach thatChristians can have demons.
So this is what's going on here.
If you believe that you're aChristian and you don't have
demons, why not get with anexorcist and get confronted and
see what happens?

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And get confronted and see whathappens.
I almost can guarantee you'regoing to get a manifestation.
Now, selwyn, I want to jump toyou real quick and I want you to
explain what is this third eyething you're talking about here,
bro.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah, justin, in agreement with what you said
earlier.
Thanks to Phoebe for allowingpeople to see that video,
because you won't believe howmany people have reached out to
me because of that video.
So thank you for that, phoebe,and your husband.
Yeah, third eye, justin.
What people don't understandwith Kundalini Yoga is you're
dealing with chakras, energypoints in the body, with the

(22:38):
third eye.
The Kundalini spirit said thatit had access because of the
channeling.
So channeling is basicallyopening up your spirit to the
spirit world in ways that areforbidden by God's word.
So you're accessing spiritualpower and the help of spiritual
power through an alternatemethod that's forbidden by God's

(22:59):
word.
So that's ultimately howKundalini accessed that part of
her mind.
And obviously we'll speak lateron about the heart chakra, but
we're talking about the thirdeye chakra, which is opened
predominantly through channeling, meditation and emptying
yourself, basically giving awayyour autonomy that God has given
you to allow other entities totake that dominion over you.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Thank you, selwyn.
Yes, and the third eye isopened as well through ancestral
witchcraft.
The third eye, basically, isallowing you to see into the
spirit realm, which is forbiddenby God, and so this is not
confined to Buddhism or theHindu religion, but the third

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eye can be opened by ancestralwitchcraft and people think they
have a gift because they cansee demons or they can tell
what's going to happen tosomebody Don't go there or don't
do this or they see littlechildren walking around that are
dead, or they talk with thedead.
They see all these things andyou should not see things.

(24:07):
You should not Christiansshould not see demons.
I used to see demons all thetime before I got exercised and
I'm blind and could see thembecause it's in the supernatural
realm.
But once that third eye in mymind was shut, it stopped, there
was no more.
So that's the third eye.

(24:28):
Now back to the confrontation.
Phoebe, I'm going to come toyou in just a minute, but when
you confronted and got themanifestation, kundalini
manifested and, phoebe, whatwere you feeling when the
manifestation happened?
Was it a choking feeling in thethroat?
What did you feel when thatfirst happened?

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Yes, I feel someone is choking me, not allowing me
to say the sentence to let themgo, and that's how I feel.
And I feel someone is screaming.
I have a conscious there but Icouldn't control.
It's really hard to say.

(25:11):
It's like I was strong.
I have conscious there but mybody cannot control myself to do
those screaming, those voice.
I remember I was staring atPastor Sullivan as well that I
really hate him and didn't wantto talk.
Follow what he want me to say.

(25:32):
Yeah, that's my experience andyou can see my personality is
really different, see mypersonality switch really
different.
I didn't act.
I will never do somethingscreaming like that.
I actually feel quite shy andembarrassed to hear the videos
again, thank you for sharingthat.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Yeah, and it's very common with snake demons and I
know, selwyn, you've probablyexperienced this too where they
choke people.
So it's Python is very commonfor people from Africa, even
African-Americans.
The witchcraft goes back toAfrica.
There's the Python that'sworshiped, so there's a Python
spirit, a Leviathan spirit,kundalini spirit, but basically

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when these snake spiritsmanifest in somebody, they choke
them.
I've had clients tell me I'mgoing to die, it's choking, I'm
going to die, and I'll say juststay with me, you're not going
to die.
It doesn't have absoluteauthority.
Christ does.
But this is real.
This is what was happening withPhoebe.
Let me continue for a littlebit here and let's get back and

(26:38):
listen to a little bit more andthen we'll talk a little bit
more about what's happening here.

Speaker 5 (26:43):
Kundalini, kundalini, I want you to look at me.
Kundalini, how many generationsdo you go back?

Speaker 4 (26:51):
Three.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
Was this the grandmother or?

Speaker 4 (26:54):
somebody else.
I think yes.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Okay, selwyn's interrogating this spirit how
many generations do you go backin her bloodline, in her family?
Someone I'm going to call atyou in just a minute, but this
is what you all need to know.
You have generational curses onyour life that cause many of
the problems you're experiencingtoday.
Generational demons the thingsthat your ancestors did are

(27:21):
vexing you today, and most ofthe time people want to approach
it just from a psychologicalperspective.
I have panic attacks, I haveanxiety attacks.
I become frozen in the middleof the night.
I must have a little bit ofmental illness, because I see
things in my bedroom.
I see what looks like ghostscome in and yada, yada, yada,

(27:42):
and so they want to makeeverything be psychological.
But it's not.
It has to be a mixture of bothpsychology and counseling and
exorcism.
Most people, I believepersonally, have demons.
They just learn how to livewith them.
That's it.
They tolerate the suffering andthey learn how to live with
them.
That's it.
They tolerate the suffering andthey learn how to live with

(28:03):
them.
And the sad thing is they don'thave to live with those demons.
They can get rid of them andexperience a peaceful, beautiful
life, like phoebe is right now.
So, selwyn.
Talk to us a little bit, bro,about the generational curses
and what you were dealing withthere yeah, so also wanted to
say to phebe nothing to beashamed of.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
The only person that needs to be ashamed is the enemy
.
Imagine the enemy re-hearingevery time this video is played
and the shame of the enemy beingdefeated like that.
But yeah, look, this sexism wasactually very complex.
I mean, the video just showedelements of it.
It was actually very complex.
I mean, the video just showedelements of it.
It was actually very complex.

(28:44):
Her grandmother had a big rolein all of this stuff.
So I actually dealt with a solepart of her grandmother and got
her grandmother to lift thecurses.
So in that third generationthat Kundalini was referring to,
her grandmother had activatedsome pretty strong curses over
her life.
And you know, phoebe waslooking for love.

(29:05):
She was using the channeling tofind law of attraction,
basically trying to find hertrue love.
It's quite amazing, she met herhusband Ernest, but I think
that wasn't through thewitchcraft, but God had
intercepted through that becausehe had a greater plan for her
life.
So, yeah, we had to dismantlethat third generation curse and,
like I said, it was verycomplex.

(29:26):
Deliverance the Kundalini had afoothold in her heart and her
mind.
So heart chakra and mind chakraand we can talk more about that
as we go.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Thank you, salwan, awesome stuff.
Yeah, let's continue, because Ithink next coming up is this
heart chakra.
And again, chakras are up thespine.
Uh, to the mind, in the thirdeye.
There's different chakras inthe Hindu religion, with the

(29:59):
Kundalini yoga and you can findthis on YouTube Ex-Kundalini
yoga instructors that had demons.
It's some wicked stuff, dude,I'm telling you.
So let's continue on here.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
Kundalini.
What part of her body are youin now?
Kundalini, heart, heart still.
Why are you still in the heart?
What's?

Speaker 4 (30:24):
connected with that she a covenant with me how to
find love?
Did she use me interest to?

Speaker 5 (30:31):
do this.
She used meditation to findlove.
Yeah, how old was she?

Speaker 2 (30:36):
it wasn't many times 36.
Let's stop right there.
He says he's still in the heartchakra and Selwyn's saying how
are you there?
She has a covenant with me.
Do you know, when youparticipate in things outside of
what God says is spirituallyokay, you come into covenant and

(30:57):
you give them demons legalrights to come into you and
begin to vex you, affect yourlife and torment you.
People don't know this.
This is why I'm here.
This is why Selen's here.
This is why Phoebe's here.
This isn't about listening tosome Hollywood-type exorcism.
This is about exposing this sopeople can understand.

(31:19):
You don't want to mess withstuff like this.
Phoebe, I'm going to ask you tocomment on this.
So you were trying to find love.
You're using meditation.
Kundalini gets into your heartchakra, which is an energy point
, and he's inside you.
He has your heart.
And when Kundalini had yourheart, when you used meditation

(31:44):
to find love, phoebe, did youfind love?

Speaker 4 (31:48):
No, actually I attract a lot of bad guys to my
life actually, and I hadnightmares every single night
that time.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
So you didn't find love.
What you did find is trauma byattracting bad men to cause pain
to you, and also you got demonsfrom this practice as well,
trying to find love throughmeditation.
So many people do this.
They might be meditation, itmight be putting an altar up and

(32:22):
burning incense in their house,these different types of
practices that invite demons into a person.
Let's keep going here.

Speaker 5 (32:38):
Look at me, kundalini .
Is there anything else, anyother part of the body you're
connected with?

Speaker 2 (32:54):
What about her mind and third eye?
Third eyes as well.
What about that?
Now we're back to the third eyeand channeling.
What happened here with thechanneling she wanted?

Speaker 3 (32:58):
to find her soulmate and use the law of attraction,
tarot card reading.
So that's how Kundalini hadanchored himself to that third
eye.
You know what's so sad?
The devil's such an opportunistand what's quite profound about
the sexism is this underlyingthread.
You can actually seeKundalini's assignment for her

(33:20):
and again we go back tochildhood.
There was all this brokenness,abandonment and rejection in her
childhood.
So Satan knew she was lookingfor love.
So he's just used all theseentities, especially Kundalini.
You can see Kundalini'sassignment was to put her with
bad men, as she just expressed.
She said she ended up in badrelationships, having nightmares

(33:42):
at night.
So now you can see people aregoing to this kind of meditation
, seeking through the law ofattraction to attract their
soulmate, and actually theentities behind it have a
completely different agenda andthey end up in all this
brokenness and so what they dois they just amplify the
existing brokenness.
So we dismantled all thatthrough confession, because the

(34:04):
Bible says if you confess withyour mouth the Lord Jesus and
believe in your heart that Godraised him from the dead, you
shall be saved.
So in exorcism, confession isimportant and believing in the
heart is important.
So you can actually see thatspirit had anchored itself to a
heart.
So we actually had to do atrade.
We had to renounce that andthen invite Jesus into that area

(34:27):
of her life.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
That's awesome, awesome, awesome, so exciting.
Yeah, and it is sad, selwyn,that so many people are trying
to find spirituality, they'retrying to find a connection with
God, because inside each of ushave this hole that only God
could fill, only Jesus Christcan fill, and until we find that
we're tormented.
But a lot of people use the lawof attraction.

(34:50):
There's so many coaches outthere now Ooh, the law of
attraction coach and the lifecoach with the law of attraction
, and they're going to helpeverybody get everything they
want in life and never suffer.
And using this law ofattraction and it's all lies.
The devil, it's what my lastepisode, zeno, mentioned this

(35:13):
the devil will give you anything.
Just because you're successfulin life doesn't mean it's a good
thing, doesn't mean it's fromGod.
It can be from the devil.
The devil owns this world.
He told Christ's from God.
It can be from the devil.
The devil owns this world.
He told Christ I'll give youall the kingdoms of this world,
he owns it.
So if it means giving youwhatever you want to keep you
from having a personalrelationship with Christ through

(35:34):
the law of attraction, and thenyou die and go to hell, game
one for Satan.
So just because you're usingthe law of attraction and
getting nice things.
All of this comes at a price,by the way, so there is a lot of
suffering going through it, butthere are people who use the
law of attraction and get thingsand feel successful, but they
suffer.
They suffer in many waysbecause you have demons.

(35:55):
All right, let's keep goinghere.
We're almost done with theexorcism, phoebe.
Thanks again so much, you andyour husband, for allowing us to
dissect this.
It's going to be so helpful.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
I want you to say now I renounce every part of
Kundalini.

Speaker 6 (36:12):
I renounce every part of Kundalini.

Speaker 5 (36:14):
He's not my source of wisdom.

Speaker 6 (36:16):
He is not my source of wisdom.

Speaker 5 (36:18):
He's not my source of life.

Speaker 6 (36:19):
He is not my source of light.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
I reject every false word spoken over my life,
through the temples, through thefortune tellers, through my
grandmother, all money she paidto get words over me.

Speaker 6 (36:40):
I cancel all the false spirit.

Speaker 5 (36:42):
Of Kundalini.

Speaker 6 (36:42):
Of Kundalini, to break its power, to break its
power in Jesus.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
But, jesus, I separate the soul and spirit.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
This is the confessions that Selwyn was
talking about.
He's now breaking thesecontractual agreements that
she's made with these demons.
So this is what's going on here.
Now he's stepping through andsaying we break this agreement,
we break this covenant.
Kundalini said she has acovenant with me that's being
broken.
Now he has broken the legalrights through guiding her

(37:19):
through this.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
Now it's time for Kundalini to go.
Bye-bye.
Kundalini wants you to look atme right now.
Do you have any curses left?
Yes or?

Speaker 6 (37:29):
no, no Say I.

Speaker 5 (37:29):
Kundalini, bring out my legal rights over this woman
of God, and I'll receive God'sjudgment.
And I bind.

Speaker 6 (37:42):
And I bind All spirits, all spirits Of my
control.
Of my control.

Speaker 5 (37:47):
Kundalini, lift every power out of her heart right
now and command you by a crossRemove it, remove it, stay with
me.
Kundalini Say I go, I go.

Speaker 6 (37:57):
Now.

Speaker 5 (37:59):
Now, yes, now.
Now.

Speaker 6 (38:02):
Kundalini say now Come out of there.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
Come out of there.
In Jesus' name, I cut you offfrom the base of this tree.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
in Jesus' name, Okay, I'm just going to stop it at
that point.
Wow, the power of Jesus Christis amazing.
This is cool stuff.
This is wonderful to helppeople actually find truth and
find freedom.
Friend, are you tormented?
Be real.
You know this is a new year,2023.

(38:35):
In the beginning, I said it'stime to be real.
Are you tormented by demons?
And if the answer is yes, getan exorcism.
Phoebe's doing so much betternow since she's had that
exorcism.
Phoebe, can you tell thelisteners how you feel now since
you've gone through thatexorcism feel?

Speaker 4 (38:58):
much relief and I stopped having nightmares since
then and I could start speakingin town and I found out I have a
closer relationship with Godright now.
Yeah, I feel my life is better,but I also want to share that
after you did the ministry, itdoesn't mean you will get a life

(39:20):
warranty.
You still have to fight for itfor a long time because they are
going to come back to you allthe time.
You have to protect your heart.
You have to have a closerelationship with God.
That's what I want to share.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Thank you very much for that, phoebe.
That is so true because oncethey are expelled they're on the
outside.
And so I tell people it's likewhen they're in you, your
emotional torment, thedepression, the anxiety, the
panic attacks, the compulsiveaddictions you can't shake,
whatever it is.
When the demons are in you,it's at a 10.
But when you get exercised andthey're thrown out, it drops

(40:00):
down to about a two or three.
It's tolerable, but you'restill going to have to fight,
like Phoebe's saying.
The guy in my prior episodesaid you have to fight.
Episode nine was all aboutfighting Selwyn.
I wanted to come back to youreal quick.
Any thoughts at the end of theexorcism?

(40:20):
I know you were trying to haveKundalini say something and it
was what?
Shaking its head?
No, because you said yes, yes,you were forcing this thing to
say it.
What was going on there?

Speaker 3 (40:33):
Justin, I'm quite a tenacious person by nature.
Yeah, it's the power of God,the name of Jesus Christ, that's
doing all this, but at the sametime, God's working through a
vessel, through an instrument,and if we are a lazy instrument,
then you're going to get whatcomes out of that lazy
instrument.
So in this session I'd actuallydealt with Kundalini twice in

(40:55):
that session.
So it was a process of breakingdown His covenants.
So it wasn't just about sayingin the name of Jesus, you're
free, you can go.
It was really a spiritualbattle and Phoebe was actually
the one physically going throughit and emotionally.
So it was about just holding theline, holding onto the

(41:16):
authority as the minister thatyou have, not doubting who you
are in Christ, and then justbeing determined to defeat that
power through God workingthrough you.
So that's how what we did.
We just didn't give up untilthat thing was completely gone.
And, as Phoebe said, yeah, thejourney is working out, your
salvation, with fear andtrembling.

(41:38):
These enemies will come backlooking.
They can't just enter back in.
It's not that easy.
But if you don't fill up thehouse with the Word of God and
what Phoebe actually alluded tothere, she actually got filled
with the Holy Spirit.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
I think four days later it's amazing, when the
demons are expelled, how now youcan actually use your God-given
gifts and begin to move inministry, which was actually my
own personal case and a lot ofpeople's cases.
Exorcism is clinical and ittakes time, and this is like the

(42:13):
latest trend out there onYouTube.
So you have all these peoplethrowing up YouTube channels I'm
a deliverance minister or I'man exorcist, and so forth.
Be careful, be very careful.
I just worked with someone acouple of weeks ago that they
met with a prophet from Africaand he blew into the microphone,

(42:35):
blew a blessing on her.
Yeah, he blew something on her.
All right, it wasn't a blessing.
She got demons.
So, because YouTube and Zoomand all these readily available
access points to try to get helpare available, people are
getting demons because theydon't know.

(42:55):
My encouragement to you becareful.
Selwyn is certified and trainedand I'm certified and trained.
Whoever you work with, you wantto ask what's your credentials?
Who trained you?
Do you have certification?
What type of education do youhave?
I've taken over 40 courses withDr Larson and I'm enrolled in

(43:20):
another course on demonology.
So it's important.
Selwyn's done the same.
He's taken the 40 courses youknow, and then we're trained
hands-on for quite a while byother exorcists so we could
learn the art of exorcism.
You know, you compare somethinglike that, that type of
rigorous training and devotion,to someone that just throws up a
YouTube channel and says I'm anexorcist.

(43:42):
Be careful, please, people, becareful.
Go to someone that's reliable.
I think I'm going to call it awrap.
We have covered so much.
Thank you, selwyn and Phoebe.
Much Thank you, selwyn andPhoebe, for coming on here and

(44:06):
exposing the devil so people canlearn and understand how to not
make spiritual mistakes and howto not get demons, and also how
to get freed up if they do havedemons.
At the end of every episode, Ialways ask my guests to offer
encouraging words to people Alot of people are listening to
this who have demons.

(44:26):
They're afraid to admit it,they're afraid to go into their
trauma, they're afraid to gointo their pain.
They want to live in anillusion that everything's okay.
Then there are other listenerswho maybe are involved in some
of these things that reallydon't see it as a problem, like
the law of attraction, likeburning sage, like mindfulness,

(44:51):
meditation.
Whatever the practices are,they think they're fine.
Give a word of encouragementand then, selwyn, I'm going to
bounce over to you, but, phoebe,can you speak to people and
share love and encouragementwith?

Speaker 4 (45:10):
them on how to avoid getting demons.
Don't be scared, and you haveto trust our God.
Our God is bigger than anythingand he loves you no matter what
.
Even you did so many mistakeslike what I did, but God still
loves you.
You have to repent and startingto do the right things,

(45:31):
starting to build a goodrelationship with God, because
our God is the only true God ofthis world.
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Beautiful words, such a compassionate, beautiful
spirit.
You hear that guys, selwyn, ifyou can take a minute and just
share some love with them, bro.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Yeah, thanks, justin, for having me on today.
Thanks, phoebe and her husbandfor being open.
Yeah, justin, just to echo whatyou said, because it's
important, encouraging people atthe same time.
The deliverance movement is onthe rise globally and I believe
god has caused that becausepeople have not been set free.
The church has taken a wholenew, different road and that's

(46:13):
more motivation and setting thecaptives free.
So I just want to warn peopleagain against all the people
jumping on the bandwagon,sensationalizing deliverance and
telling people they're free.
You and me, justin, we work asexorcists.
I don't ever tell peoplethey're free.
That's up to them and God tomeasure that.

(46:33):
I also want to just say thatthe sad thing to people out
there that do go and are lookingfor help through yoga, through
tarot cards, through healers Iwant you to say that those
instructors, they actually arewanting to do good things.
You don't come across all thesehealers as bad people.

(46:56):
They actually think they'retrying to help people.
They deceive themselves.
So, like Justin said, even ifyou're going to healers right
now, do a little bit moreresearch.
You'll be surprised what'sactually going on in their lives
.
I'm sure if you dug a littledeep into an instructor's life.
I'm sure things are not goingthat well as they make
themselves out to be.

(47:16):
So I want to encourage peoplenot to fear exorcism.
It's nothing to be feared.
It's actually a beautifulhealing process.
And, justin, as I finish on thispoint, to encourage people out
there to reach out, one thingthat's come over and over again
what people have said to meafter the experience when people
sit down with me at thebeginning of the process, I can

(47:38):
see the apprehension on theirface.
They're thinking what have Igot myself into?
At the end of the process, veryoften I have people say to me
no, salon, that wasn't what Iexpected.
That was very gentle and youwould never expect the word
gentle and exorcism to be in thesame sentence.
But in actual fact that's whatit is.
It's a gentle process.

(47:59):
The only part of it that's notgentle is what the evil spirits
are going through.
They're going through absolutetorment.
So I just want to encouragepeople assess the patterns in
your lives and if there arethings that are inconsistent and
the meditation, the channelingand all the stuff you're doing
is not shifting it, reach outfor help to a man of God and do

(48:19):
your research and find out ifhe's authentic.
Thank you, justin.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Go over to wwwjustindcom.
It's going to right there.
It says latest posts.
You will see TBE10, and you canclick on that.
And on the next page I'm goingto have a link to Selwyn's
ministry website, which is theUnseen Realm Very cool, love

(48:44):
that name.
And then I'll also have a linkto Phoebe's Exorcism that you
can watch on YouTube.
And just to mention realquickly, have you signed up yet
for the Blind Exorcistnewsletter?
If not, why not Check this out?

(49:05):
I got two Frontline articles out.
They're getting some momentum.
People are enjoying this, butFrontline is where I write my
thoughts out.
You know I like to go deep andwriting is a way I can do that.
I'm a very extrovertedpersonality.
Podcast is a way for me tobring this information to people
in kind of a lightheartedfashion.
Frontline is a way for me tobring this information to people
in kind of a lightheartedfashion.
Frontline is a way for me towrite and go deep, and they're

(49:28):
inspirational and encouragingand motivational articles.
There's two of them right now.
One's called Satan Wants yourAuthority and the other one's
titled Forgive Him, forgive Her,and the other one's titled
Forgive Him, forgive Her, no way.
And you'll have to check theseout.
So if you want to be notifiedwhen I release frontline

(49:53):
articles to read, you can signup for the Blind Exorcist
newsletter on my website.
Otherwise you just have to keepcoming back randomly.
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Hey, is there something newhere?
Hey, is there something newhere?
So very low traffic, maybe twoarticles a month.
You might get notified of whenI put a new podcast out as well.
But sign up for the BlindExorcist newsletter.
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(50:18):
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