January 30, 2024 • 38 mins
Have you ever wondered about the timeless appeal of the hymn "Jesus Loves Me"? Join us as we journey through its history and the deep connection we share with this profound piece of music. In a candid conversation, we unwrap the story of Anna and Susan Warner, who, amidst financial hardship, composed the universally cherished lyrics within their novel "Say and Seal." We also pay homage to William Bradbury, whose melodic touch brought the words to life for congregations worldwide. We gaze upon this hymn from a little different perspective as we see it through the eyes of my daughter, Lily. She offers a sweet perspective, recounting how the hymn has influenced her and continues to inspire billions across age divides.
In this episode, we delve into the comforting simplicity found in the message of Jesus's love, a love that embraces our imperfections and is beautifully encapsulated in John 3:16. The hymn's evolution is not just a tale of lyrical modifications but a testament to the unwavering message of God's affection for us. We contemplate how the hymn's chorus, much like an unexpected blessing, serves as a soothing reminder of faith's everyday presence. The episode also touches upon the cathartic power of music and how singing "Jesus Loves Me" can serve as an emotional anchor in times of distress. So, tune in and let us guide you through this melodic exploration of faith, history, and the enduring message of love that the Warner sisters gifted to the world.
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"Jesus Loves Me" performed by Nathan Drake of Reawaken Hymns
"Jesus Loves Me" appears on the album Reawaken Hymns: Volume 4 available here.
The instrumental version of "Jesus Loves Me" used in this episode is from the album Piano Only: Volume 1 from The Hymnal Project. Music arranged and performed by Peter Prochnow with Setting by Benje Daneman. Arrangement © 2018.
Full musical version of "Jesus Loves Me" from The Hymnal Project with video and printable resources available here.
Take a virtual tour of the Warner Historical Home on Constitution Island in New York.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The only love that won't disappoint you is one that
can't change, that can't belost, that is not based on the
ups and downs of life or howwell you live.
It's something that not evendeath can take away from you.
God's love is the only thinglike that.
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Timothy Keller, this is theBright Forever.
Hello and welcome to the BrightForever where each week, we
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discover the power and richnessfound in some of the greatest
hymns of the faith hey, hey hey,wait a minute, that's my line.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I just wanted to help Wait.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
but what about the opening quote?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Oh, it's already done .
Who did you use?
Like you had to ask?
Tim Keller, of course.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Nice, well, okay, then, I guess you've got this
handled.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yes, okay, you just sit right there Now watch how
it's really done.
So let's try this again.
This is the Bright Forever Cuemusic.
Hello and welcome to the BrightForever where each week, we
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discover the power and richnessfound in some of the greatest
hymns of the faith.
My name is Lily Pepehouse andmy dad will be our host and
guide on this, our AdventureThrough Hymnity.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Nice job.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
What do I do now?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
The mic is yours.
Guide us.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Well, alright then.
By the way, thanks, baby girl.
That was a great intro and forall of you listening out there,
it is great to be back with youagain this week.
As you can hear, I have aco-host this week, my daughter,
lily Pepehouse.
Say hi, hi, she will be helping, keep me on track and make sure
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I don't stray too far off topic.
The reason I have this amazingco-host is that both she and my
oldest, zoe, have been beggingto be on the podcast, not just
interviewed, but be a part ofwhat I do.
So in this season of NewEditions to the Bright Forever,
you will be blessed with atleast a couple of episodes that
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I co-host with each of the mostamazing girls I know.
Hey, lily, what about Gemma?
Should she co-host one too?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I'm not sure she doesn't really know how to talk.
Yet all she knows is like dog,dad, mom sticks her tongue out a
lot.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I think that could work.
No, Okay, maybe not, Althoughshe does say dad a lot.
So which is the most importantword?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Dad, dad, dad Dad.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I think it'll work Well.
Today, we'll be diving into thestory and significance behind
one of the most beloved andfamiliar hymns of all time.
You might have heard this sweetmelody at church on Sunday, or
at Vacation Bible School, oreven in the comfort of your own
home.
But we're adding a unique twistto the conversation by
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exploring it through the eyes ofa very special guest, my
10-year-old daughter Lily.
We'll be delving into whatJesus loves me means to her, the
emotions it stirs and why thissimple yet powerful hymn
continues to resonate acrossgenerations.
So, whether you're familiarwith the hymn or hearing it for
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the first time, let's begin thisdelightful exploration of Jesus
Loves Me.
We hope to explore itssimplicity, share its story and
perhaps discover its enduringpower.
So join us as we journey backto the mid-19th century, a time
of great cultural and religiousfervor in America, as we dive
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into this cherished hymn by AnnaBartlett Warner.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
But before we begin, don't forget to hit that
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.
Hey Dad, where's this hymn comefrom?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Well, after 1837, we find two remarkable sisters,
anna Bartlett Warner and SusanWarner, whose creative talents
would intertwine to birth atimeless hymn.
The sisters found themselvesdrawn to writing following what
many would see as a devastatinghardship.
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Their father, who had beenwidowed, lost almost everything
and was financially ruinedduring the Panic of 1837.
This led to their family'sdescent into poverty.
Forced to sell their prizedhome, they relocated to
Constitution Island, where thefamily had an historic summer
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home adjacent to West PointMilitary Academy.
In an effort to supportthemselves, the sisters turned
to writing and soon foundsuccess in their pursuit.
Anna, a gifted writer, andSusan, a published author,
together would leave anincredible mark on the world of
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Christian hymnody.
Their collaboration culminatedin the novel Say and Seal,
written in 1860, where Anna'spoetic words found their home.
It was within these pages thatAnna penned a simple yet
profound poem expressing theboundless love of Jesus.
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Little did she know theseverses would soon take flight
and touch the hearts of millions.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Well, what was the story about?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Well, in the novel there's a touching moment where
Johnny Fax, a young boy battlingillness and on the brink of
death, finds solace and peace Inthe presence of his Sunday
school teacher, mr John Linden.
Moved by the child's requestfor a song, mr Linden tenderly
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begins to sing a new hymncomposed of four stanzas.
Jesus loves me.
This I know, for the Bibletells me so.
Little ones to him belong.
They are weak, but he is strong.
Jesus loves me.
He who died Heaven's gates toopen wide.
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He will wash away my sin.
Let his little child come in.
Jesus loves me, loves me still,though I'm very weak and ill.
From his shining throne on highcomes to watch me where I lie.
Jesus loves me.
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He will stay close beside meall the way.
Then his little child will takeup to heaven for his dear sake.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Well, did it have any music yet?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Well, that's actually right here where a guy by the
name of William Bradbury entersour story.
As we've discussed in previouspodcasts, bradbury is a renowned
composer and music teacher,having composed music to so many
of the hymns we still singtoday, like he Leadeth Me the
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Solid Rock Sweet Hour of Prayer,just as I Am.
And just so happens that hispath crossed with Susan Warners.
Upon reading her book andhearing Anna's poignant poem,
bradbury was deeply moved andinspired to set the poem to
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music.
The melody that emerged was atender, evocative and perfectly
captured the essence of Anna'sheartfelt words.
Thus Jesus loves me was born, ahymn that resonated with a
simplicity and sincerity thathas transcended generations.
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First in Bradbury's hymnal in1862, it quickly found its way
into the hearts of churchgoersand Sunday school attendees
across America.
In Bradbury's compilation, hepreserved all four of Warners
stanzas, also adding the popularrefrain of yes, jesus loves me.
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Yes, jesus loves me.
Yes, jesus loves me, the Bibletells me so.
However, he modified the lasttwo lines, introducing a
conditional aspect to thepromise of heaven.
Instead of then, his littlechild will take up to heaven for
his dear sake, he changed it toread If I love him, when I die,
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he will take me home on high,an alteration that may resonate
differently with those withvarious theological beliefs.
Later in her life, anna is saidto have penned a new final
stanza that reads Jesus, takethis heart of mine, make it pure
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and holy.
Thine On the cross, you diedfor me.
I will love and live for thee.
Today, it's not uncommon tofind a variety of combinations
of these verses used by variousdenominations in all sorts of
different countries, so itsmessage of unconditional love
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and grace has brought comfortand solace to countless people,
young and old alike.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
You are old dad.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Thank you.
From humble beginnings withinthe pages of a novel to becoming
a cherished hymn sung bybillions, jesus loves me has a
legacy that continues to endure,a testament to the power of
simply having faith in the loveand work of our Savior.
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As we continue to reflect onthe remarkable journey of Jesus
loves me and its impact on thelives of so many, let's take a
moment to gaze upon this hymnthrough the eyes of a 10 year
old, with the hope that we willbe reminded of our own childlike
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faith and the profound effectthat a simple message of love
can have on a lost world.
So how does it feel to co-host?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
It's actually pretty fun.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Well, we're talking about.
Jesus loves me.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
It's the hymn that you chose.
Why did you pick this hymn?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Because I'm pretty familiar with.
Jesus loves me.
It's a really good hymn that Ireally like in the last season,
like how I did Tastes so sweet.
That one I also really liked aswell.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Do you recall ever having it sung to you?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
When.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
So I was so whenever I was really little, we had like
this little singing bunny thatsaying Jesus loves me to us,
which was really cute.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Do you remember me singing it to you?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Do you remember when I started singing it to you, or
not?
Probably not.
Yeah, probably not.
I sing it to you almost everynight.
For like the first year or twoof your life, when I helped put
you to bed, I would sing Jesusloves me, that and you are my
sunshine.
But usually Jesus loves me, butsometimes you are my sunshine.
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If you still were awake by theend of Jesus loves me, I also
sang you are my sunshine.
So what comes to your mind whenyou hear a song like Jesus
loves me?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
I think that, like I feel like more secure whenever
people are singing to me,because like makes me happy and
I just really like how, likeevery time like I'm scared or
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sad or upset, like somebodycomes around and sings to me
sometimes.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
So people sing the song to you, but have you ever
sung this hymn before?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yes, I actually have Very recently, whenever.
So it was actually yesterdaywhenever we were putting my baby
sister to bed and we had tosing it to her like three times.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
We did because she would not go to sleep.
Yeah, and then finally she did,after laying down in the bed
with her.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
And then she walked back up On top of me, yes, and
then we had to sing it to heronce more.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
So you said that hearing somebody sing it to you
that it makes you feel safe, itmakes you feel secure.
What about the song makes youfeel secure?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
That like.
So, like the part that is thisI know because I know that God
is with me wherever I go.
Pretty much it's not like Godreally never goes on vacation,
he's always like helping othersand working in your life.
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And I take it out from the songand then I like really hold on
to that piece of the songbecause like this I know, for
the Bible tells me so that'swhat I really like about that
song.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Really cool.
Why do you think a lot ofpeople like to sing Jesus Les me
?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Because it's a really good hymn and it's just
heartwarming, kind sweet.
It like gives you like goodfeelings and like happiness.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
What kind of happiness.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
What kind of happiness like whenever you get
an A on your math test.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
So it makes you feel happy.
What part of the song makes yougo?
Oh well, this brings me joy,this makes me happy.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
That he like the part where, like it, talks about
like how he died for us.
Even though he didn't have to,he did it anyway and he knows
exactly what's going to happenand he knows exactly what to do
and he loves us.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Does he love us?
How do we know?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
The Bible tells us so .
Speaker 3 (16:27):
How does the idea of Jesus loving you make you feel?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
It makes me feel happy with the fact that I'm a
sinner and he's perfect, makesme feel really good because
you're not normally friends withanybody who's perfect, or true.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah so but his but he's perfect, and we're not, and
yet he loves us anyway.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Right yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
That's cool why?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
would Jesus love us, because we're his children.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
But we're sinners and he's perfect, so why would he
give his life for us?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Because he wants us to have a life with him, and if
he didn't, and if he hadn't diedon the cross for us, he
wouldn't have let us have a lifewith him, but he wanted us to.
So he died on the cross for oursins, and whoever believes in
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him will not perish but haveeternal life.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
That's awesome.
That's from John 316, right.
Not Romans.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Not Romans 316.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
So we talked about the history of the song.
Did anything in that story,like as I was telling it?
Were you like, oh, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Never.
Bradbury brought it togetherinto a song from the poem which
added a little bit on, and thenAnna added a little bit more on
right.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah, so she changed that, that last line.
Yeah, towards the end yeah,actually you had said that
that's.
That's one of your favoriteparts is that line that she
changed, talking about himactually dying on the cross for
us and that, and that we have alife because of that and so
that's so.
That change that she made atthe end, that's actually one of
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your favorite parts of the song.
So glad she made that change.
One of my favorite things thathe added was the refrain yes,
jesus loves me.
Yes, jesus loves me.
Yes, jesus loves me.
The Bible tells me so.
I think that that it just everyverse.
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It just reiterates it remindsme of his love and it reminds me
that I find that love byseeking him, by looking into his
word and by learning more abouthim.
Each verse it reminds me thatthe reason for this verse is
because of Jesus' love, and thenit reminds me the reason I know
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about Jesus' love is becausethat's what the Bible tells us
about.
The Bible is all about God'sredeeming love for us, from the
beginning in creation, all theway to revelation.
It's the story of God'sredemptive love that he's
redeeming us through Jesus thatwe sin, we fall, we don't do it
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right, we never can, and wecan't earn it and we can't pay
it back.
It is just the free gift of Godand grace and it's because of
Jesus' love for us and that'swhat the Bible tells us.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I like that the fact that you said that because
that's really cool about thesong, like how it keeps
reminding you on how Jesus lovesyou.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
And the reason that we know it's because of his word
.
And he tells us in his word,over and over again, that we are
loved, we are loved, we arechild of God and that we are
loved by him.
It reminds us as adults even me, going back over this hymn, as
you and I have been talkingabout it and as I've been kind
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of studying it, I've beenreminded of it's a really
simplistic song, it's a reallyeasy song.
It's not like deep, theological, like, and the reason for God's
love for us is, you know itsays, because the Bible said so.
And it's really simple, it'sreally easy, but it does have a
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deep truth in it in the factthat his love is showcased for
us in his word over and over andover again.
And I love the fact that thechorus repeats the line over and
over and over again that yes,jesus loves me, yes, jesus loves
me, yes, jesus loves me.
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And the Bible tells me it overand over and over.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I really liked that response because like, like,
like the fact that you talkedabout, like, like Jesus loves me
because, and then like you diglike very, very deep and like
you just don't have to hardlyexplain it at all.
The Bible told me, so Okay.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
And we make it so complicated when it's really
very simple.
We need to know that God lovesus, that he died for our sins,
that we are forgiven and thatour job is to live for Christ.
It doesn't have to be morecomplicated than that.
I mean we make it morecomplicated than that, but it's
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not more complicated.
It's really simple, Like thissong is really simple.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Are there other ways that you like to express your
feelings about your faithbesides just in song?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
I like to pray sometimes and read the Bible.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Whenever I'm like feeling like sad, whenever I've
like had a bad day.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
And how does that help you?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
How it helps me is like, whenever I read the Bible,
it like tells me it redirectsme where I'm supposed to be.
Like whenever I'm looking towhere, like oh, this didn't work
, it's terrible.
I'm not good at this.
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I read the Bible and it tellsme God's in control.
He knows what's going to happen.
What if, like the next day,you're like so excited because,
say, your favorite restaurantgave you free dessert?
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Reading God's word is like getting free dessert.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, it makes you really happy Okay.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Okay, very cool, interesting you.
Okay, I just didn't, I didn'tcatch it at first.
Do you enjoy singing or playingmusical instruments?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yes, I do.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Like what.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I like to sing whenever, like sometimes,
whenever I'm sad, like sometimes, I like sing hymns or songs
that, like make me happy.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Like worship songs.
Yeah, like Jesus loves meworship songs.
Now one thing when I firststarted this podcast is about a
year and a half ago now One ofthe things that I loved about
Sunday morning was you wouldsing at the top of your lungs,
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like you would stand in onSunday morning and you would
just shout, and it was awesome.
And you still sing nice andloud.
I'm a little bit further awayfrom you now because we're at a
different location and adifferent stage.
The stage is so big, it's huge,but I can still hear you
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sometimes because you're justblasting out and you just love
to praise God, which Iabsolutely think is amazing.
What is it about singing to God?
That is just that makes youjust so excited.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Because, like you're praising God and like it makes
you feel like really happy.
Well, it makes me feel reallyhappy that like I get to praise
God and I can be a part of thechurch, because, like Zoe, she
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goes to kids worship.
You and mom both play aninstrument on stage and like I'm
the only one who like doesn'tgo anywhere, like big Well, like
I do, but like it's not like onstage having a microphone.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
But you play a huge role in our church, even not
having a quote unquote job likewhere you're serving every
single week.
You do serve every week becauseyour energy and your excitement
in worship doesn't just stay inyou, it like travels around to
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everybody else and I've heard itfrom so many people how much
they love seeing you worshipbecause you are just so
exuberant and so energetic andyou just sing out because you
love to sing and so it's reallycool to watch you and it's
really cool to hear other peopletell me how cool it is to watch
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you and to see you and to seeyour excitement.
So that really is just as muchof a leadership job in the
church, as much as me being onstage or mommy being on stage or
Zoe helping with kids.
Church.
It's a huge part of the worshipthat people experience every
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week and you are part of that,which is really cool.
If there's one thing you wantpeople to remember about, jesus
loves me what would it be?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
It would be like he loves you, he cares about you
and he died the death that wedeserved and he lived the life
that we couldn't live.
But now, and if you believe inhim, you'll have a life with him
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in heaven.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Very cool.
It's been fun having you on.
You're welcome.
Are you going to co-host everyweek now?
Maybe, Thanks for having me onyour show, Lily.
You're welcome.
We should probably wrap thingsup, shouldn't we?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
All right, and with that let's cue some transition
music, and then we're going tohear Jesus Loves Me by Nathan
Drake, of Reawakened Hymns thatsound like fun, yeah, cool.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Jesus loves me.
This and now, for the Bibletells me so.
The two wants to be with me.
He's going through it all, andhow can we miss?
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Jesus Loves Me and everything.
Jesus loves me.
He who died Heaven's gates toopen wide.
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He will wash away my sin.
Let His little child come in.
Yes, jesus loves me.
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The Bible tells me so.
Jesus loves me.
He will stay close beside meall the way.
Thou hast bled and died for me.
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I will now then live for Thee.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I will now then live for Thee.
That was Jesus Loves Me,performed by Nathan Drake of
Reawaken Hymns.
For more information about thissong and all the amazing
resources available at ReawakenHymns, check out the links in
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the show notes for this episode.
Hey Dad, is there anything moreabout the history of Jesus
Loves Me?
That might be interesting.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Well funny, you should ask.
Over the decades, jesus LovesMe has left an indelible mark on
the fabric of Christian worship.
To the cadets at West Point,the sisters were best known for
their Sunday Bible classes thatthey led at the Cadet Chapel.
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Summers were a special treatfor the cadets.
They would race to pile in theflat bottom boat before it
filled up and row over to theisland for classes.
The sisters loved sharing theirfaith with the cadets, and when
they were on military duty thecadets would sing Jesus Loves Me
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.
Neither sister ever got married.
Instead, both devoted theirlives to spreading the love of
Jesus with the cadets at WestPoint and to their writing.
Anne continued holding classesfor the cadets for 30 years.
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After the death of her sister,susan In 1915, anna Bartlett
Warner died.
Following the passing of bothher sister and her, the West
Point Academy paid tribute tothe sisters' unwavering and
godly influence over the youngmen who came through the academy
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.
Anna and Susan Warner were bothlaid to rest with full military
honors in the cemetery at WestPoint.
They remained the only twocivilians to have ever been
granted this extraordinary honor.
Their graves overlook theHudson River and Constitution
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Island.
At the end of her life, annagifted the island to the
military reservation of WestPoint, and West Point Academy
made the island into a nationalshrine.
Their home is now a museum intheir honor.
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It's a testament to the enduringlegacy of these two sisters and
the hymn that has changed thelives of generations, both old
and young, through a simpletruth that Jesus loves me.
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This I know, for the Bibletells me.
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Before we go, let me close usout in prayer.
Lord, I thank you so much foryour love.
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That's what this hymn is allabout.
Jesus loves me.
Yes, jesus loves me.
The Bible tells me so.
God, you remind us every singleday, as we continue to preach
the Gospel to ourselves.
We continue to remind ourselvesthat you love us and that we
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stand loved by a God who livedthe life we couldn't live and
died the death that we deservedso that we could have life, and
life abundant and full.
And that is the message of thissimple song that we have faith
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in a God who loves us beyond allmeasure.
And so, god, we thank you forthat.
We thank you for Jesus, wethank you for your love, and we
pray that you continue to showerthat love, that mercy, that
grace on us every single day aswe walk this life.
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God, we love you, we praise you, we give you all the glory and
all the honor in Jesus' name.
Amen.
God bless you all.
Have a great week and we willbe back here, wait wait, wait,
wait, wait.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I started it, so why don't I end it?
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Okay, you go ahead.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
God bless you all.
Have a great week and we'll seeyou back here next week.
We're out you.
The only love that won't disappoint you is one that
can't change, that can't belost, that is not based on the
ups and downs of life or howwell you live.
It's something that not evendeath can take away from you.
God's love is the only thinglike that.
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Timothy Keller, this is theBright Forever.
Hello and welcome to the BrightForever where each week, we
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discover the power and richnessfound in some of the greatest
hymns of the faith hey, hey hey,wait a minute, that's my line.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I just wanted to help Wait.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
but what about the opening quote?
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Oh, it's already done .
Who did you use?
Like you had to ask?
Tim Keller, of course.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Nice, well, okay, then, I guess you've got this
handled.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Yes, okay, you just sit right there Now watch how
it's really done.
So let's try this again.
This is the Bright Forever Cuemusic.
Hello and welcome to the BrightForever where each week, we
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discover the power and richnessfound in some of the greatest
hymns of the faith.
My name is Lily Pepehouse andmy dad will be our host and
guide on this, our AdventureThrough Hymnity.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Nice job.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
What do I do now?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
The mic is yours.
Guide us.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Well, alright then.
By the way, thanks, baby girl.
That was a great intro and forall of you listening out there,
it is great to be back with youagain this week.
As you can hear, I have aco-host this week, my daughter,
lily Pepehouse.
Say hi, hi, she will be helping, keep me on track and make sure
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I don't stray too far off topic.
The reason I have this amazingco-host is that both she and my
oldest, zoe, have been beggingto be on the podcast, not just
interviewed, but be a part ofwhat I do.
So in this season of NewEditions to the Bright Forever,
you will be blessed with atleast a couple of episodes that
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I co-host with each of the mostamazing girls I know.
Hey, lily, what about Gemma?
Should she co-host one too?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I'm not sure she doesn't really know how to talk.
Yet all she knows is like dog,dad, mom sticks her tongue out a
lot.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
I think that could work.
No, Okay, maybe not, Althoughshe does say dad a lot.
So which is the most importantword?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Dad, dad, dad Dad.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I think it'll work Well.
Today, we'll be diving into thestory and significance behind
one of the most beloved andfamiliar hymns of all time.
You might have heard this sweetmelody at church on Sunday, or
at Vacation Bible School, oreven in the comfort of your own
home.
But we're adding a unique twistto the conversation by
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exploring it through the eyes ofa very special guest, my
10-year-old daughter Lily.
We'll be delving into whatJesus loves me means to her, the
emotions it stirs and why thissimple yet powerful hymn
continues to resonate acrossgenerations.
So, whether you're familiarwith the hymn or hearing it for
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the first time, let's begin thisdelightful exploration of Jesus
Loves Me.
We hope to explore itssimplicity, share its story and
perhaps discover its enduringpower.
So join us as we journey backto the mid-19th century, a time
of great cultural and religiousfervor in America, as we dive
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into this cherished hymn by AnnaBartlett Warner.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
But before we begin, don't forget to hit that
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Hey Dad, where's this hymn comefrom?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Well, after 1837, we find two remarkable sisters,
anna Bartlett Warner and SusanWarner, whose creative talents
would intertwine to birth atimeless hymn.
The sisters found themselvesdrawn to writing following what
many would see as a devastatinghardship.
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Their father, who had beenwidowed, lost almost everything
and was financially ruinedduring the Panic of 1837.
This led to their family'sdescent into poverty.
Forced to sell their prizedhome, they relocated to
Constitution Island, where thefamily had an historic summer
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home adjacent to West PointMilitary Academy.
In an effort to supportthemselves, the sisters turned
to writing and soon foundsuccess in their pursuit.
Anna, a gifted writer, andSusan, a published author,
together would leave anincredible mark on the world of
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Christian hymnody.
Their collaboration culminatedin the novel Say and Seal,
written in 1860, where Anna'spoetic words found their home.
It was within these pages thatAnna penned a simple yet
profound poem expressing theboundless love of Jesus.
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Little did she know theseverses would soon take flight
and touch the hearts of millions.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Well, what was the story about?
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Well, in the novel there's a touching moment where
Johnny Fax, a young boy battlingillness and on the brink of
death, finds solace and peace Inthe presence of his Sunday
school teacher, mr John Linden.
Moved by the child's requestfor a song, mr Linden tenderly
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begins to sing a new hymncomposed of four stanzas.
Jesus loves me.
This I know, for the Bibletells me so.
Little ones to him belong.
They are weak, but he is strong.
Jesus loves me.
He who died Heaven's gates toopen wide.
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He will wash away my sin.
Let his little child come in.
Jesus loves me, loves me still,though I'm very weak and ill.
From his shining throne on highcomes to watch me where I lie.
Jesus loves me.
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He will stay close beside meall the way.
Then his little child will takeup to heaven for his dear sake.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Well, did it have any music yet?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Well, that's actually right here where a guy by the
name of William Bradbury entersour story.
As we've discussed in previouspodcasts, bradbury is a renowned
composer and music teacher,having composed music to so many
of the hymns we still singtoday, like he Leadeth Me the
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Solid Rock Sweet Hour of Prayer,just as I Am.
And just so happens that hispath crossed with Susan Warners.
Upon reading her book andhearing Anna's poignant poem,
bradbury was deeply moved andinspired to set the poem to
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music.
The melody that emerged was atender, evocative and perfectly
captured the essence of Anna'sheartfelt words.
Thus Jesus loves me was born, ahymn that resonated with a
simplicity and sincerity thathas transcended generations.
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First in Bradbury's hymnal in1862, it quickly found its way
into the hearts of churchgoersand Sunday school attendees
across America.
In Bradbury's compilation, hepreserved all four of Warners
stanzas, also adding the popularrefrain of yes, jesus loves me.
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Yes, jesus loves me.
Yes, jesus loves me, the Bibletells me so.
However, he modified the lasttwo lines, introducing a
conditional aspect to thepromise of heaven.
Instead of then, his littlechild will take up to heaven for
his dear sake, he changed it toread If I love him, when I die,
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he will take me home on high,an alteration that may resonate
differently with those withvarious theological beliefs.
Later in her life, anna is saidto have penned a new final
stanza that reads Jesus, takethis heart of mine, make it pure
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and holy.
Thine On the cross, you diedfor me.
I will love and live for thee.
Today, it's not uncommon tofind a variety of combinations
of these verses used by variousdenominations in all sorts of
different countries, so itsmessage of unconditional love
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and grace has brought comfortand solace to countless people,
young and old alike.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
You are old dad.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
Thank you.
From humble beginnings withinthe pages of a novel to becoming
a cherished hymn sung bybillions, jesus loves me has a
legacy that continues to endure,a testament to the power of
simply having faith in the loveand work of our Savior.
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As we continue to reflect onthe remarkable journey of Jesus
loves me and its impact on thelives of so many, let's take a
moment to gaze upon this hymnthrough the eyes of a 10 year
old, with the hope that we willbe reminded of our own childlike
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faith and the profound effectthat a simple message of love
can have on a lost world.
So how does it feel to co-host?
Speaker 1 (11:51):
It's actually pretty fun.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Well, we're talking about.
Jesus loves me.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
It's the hymn that you chose.
Why did you pick this hymn?
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Because I'm pretty familiar with.
Jesus loves me.
It's a really good hymn that Ireally like in the last season,
like how I did Tastes so sweet.
That one I also really liked aswell.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Do you recall ever having it sung to you?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
When.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
So I was so whenever I was really little, we had like
this little singing bunny thatsaying Jesus loves me to us,
which was really cute.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Do you remember me singing it to you?
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Do you remember when I started singing it to you, or
not?
Probably not.
Yeah, probably not.
I sing it to you almost everynight.
For like the first year or twoof your life, when I helped put
you to bed, I would sing Jesusloves me, that and you are my
sunshine.
But usually Jesus loves me, butsometimes you are my sunshine.
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If you still were awake by theend of Jesus loves me, I also
sang you are my sunshine.
So what comes to your mind whenyou hear a song like Jesus
loves me?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
I think that, like I feel like more secure whenever
people are singing to me,because like makes me happy and
I just really like how, likeevery time like I'm scared or
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sad or upset, like somebodycomes around and sings to me
sometimes.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
So people sing the song to you, but have you ever
sung this hymn before?
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yes, I actually have Very recently, whenever.
So it was actually yesterdaywhenever we were putting my baby
sister to bed and we had tosing it to her like three times.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
We did because she would not go to sleep.
Yeah, and then finally she did,after laying down in the bed
with her.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
And then she walked back up On top of me, yes, and
then we had to sing it to heronce more.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
So you said that hearing somebody sing it to you
that it makes you feel safe, itmakes you feel secure.
What about the song makes youfeel secure?
Speaker 1 (14:39):
That like.
So, like the part that is thisI know because I know that God
is with me wherever I go.
Pretty much it's not like Godreally never goes on vacation,
he's always like helping othersand working in your life.
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And I take it out from the songand then I like really hold on
to that piece of the songbecause like this I know, for
the Bible tells me so that'swhat I really like about that
song.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Really cool.
Why do you think a lot ofpeople like to sing Jesus Les me
?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Because it's a really good hymn and it's just
heartwarming, kind sweet.
It like gives you like goodfeelings and like happiness.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
What kind of happiness.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
What kind of happiness like whenever you get
an A on your math test.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
So it makes you feel happy.
What part of the song makes yougo?
Oh well, this brings me joy,this makes me happy.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
That he like the part where, like it, talks about
like how he died for us.
Even though he didn't have to,he did it anyway and he knows
exactly what's going to happenand he knows exactly what to do
and he loves us.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Does he love us?
How do we know?
Speaker 1 (16:24):
The Bible tells us so .
Speaker 3 (16:27):
How does the idea of Jesus loving you make you feel?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
It makes me feel happy with the fact that I'm a
sinner and he's perfect, makesme feel really good because
you're not normally friends withanybody who's perfect, or true.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah so but his but he's perfect, and we're not, and
yet he loves us anyway.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Right yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
That's cool why?
Speaker 1 (17:02):
would Jesus love us, because we're his children.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
But we're sinners and he's perfect, so why would he
give his life for us?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Because he wants us to have a life with him, and if
he didn't, and if he hadn't diedon the cross for us, he
wouldn't have let us have a lifewith him, but he wanted us to.
So he died on the cross for oursins, and whoever believes in
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him will not perish but haveeternal life.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
That's awesome.
That's from John 316, right.
Not Romans.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Not Romans 316.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
So we talked about the history of the song.
Did anything in that story,like as I was telling it?
Were you like, oh, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Never.
Bradbury brought it togetherinto a song from the poem which
added a little bit on, and thenAnna added a little bit more on
right.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Yeah, so she changed that, that last line.
Yeah, towards the end yeah,actually you had said that
that's.
That's one of your favoriteparts is that line that she
changed, talking about himactually dying on the cross for
us and that, and that we have alife because of that and so
that's so.
That change that she made atthe end, that's actually one of
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your favorite parts of the song.
So glad she made that change.
One of my favorite things thathe added was the refrain yes,
jesus loves me.
Yes, jesus loves me.
Yes, jesus loves me.
The Bible tells me so.
I think that that it just everyverse.
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It just reiterates it remindsme of his love and it reminds me
that I find that love byseeking him, by looking into his
word and by learning more abouthim.
Each verse it reminds me thatthe reason for this verse is
because of Jesus' love, and thenit reminds me the reason I know
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about Jesus' love is becausethat's what the Bible tells us
about.
The Bible is all about God'sredeeming love for us, from the
beginning in creation, all theway to revelation.
It's the story of God'sredemptive love that he's
redeeming us through Jesus thatwe sin, we fall, we don't do it
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right, we never can, and wecan't earn it and we can't pay
it back.
It is just the free gift of Godand grace and it's because of
Jesus' love for us and that'swhat the Bible tells us.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
I like that the fact that you said that because
that's really cool about thesong, like how it keeps
reminding you on how Jesus lovesyou.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
And the reason that we know it's because of his word
.
And he tells us in his word,over and over again, that we are
loved, we are loved, we arechild of God and that we are
loved by him.
It reminds us as adults even me, going back over this hymn, as
you and I have been talkingabout it and as I've been kind
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of studying it, I've beenreminded of it's a really
simplistic song, it's a reallyeasy song.
It's not like deep, theological, like, and the reason for God's
love for us is, you know itsays, because the Bible said so.
And it's really simple, it'sreally easy, but it does have a
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deep truth in it in the factthat his love is showcased for
us in his word over and over andover again.
And I love the fact that thechorus repeats the line over and
over and over again that yes,jesus loves me, yes, jesus loves
me, yes, jesus loves me.
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And the Bible tells me it overand over and over.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
I really liked that response because like, like,
like the fact that you talkedabout, like, like Jesus loves me
because, and then like you diglike very, very deep and like
you just don't have to hardlyexplain it at all.
The Bible told me, so Okay.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
And we make it so complicated when it's really
very simple.
We need to know that God lovesus, that he died for our sins,
that we are forgiven and thatour job is to live for Christ.
It doesn't have to be morecomplicated than that.
I mean we make it morecomplicated than that, but it's
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not more complicated.
It's really simple, Like thissong is really simple.
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Are there other ways that you like to express your
feelings about your faithbesides just in song?
Speaker 1 (22:32):
I like to pray sometimes and read the Bible.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Whenever I'm like feeling like sad, whenever I've
like had a bad day.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
And how does that help you?
Speaker 1 (22:45):
How it helps me is like, whenever I read the Bible,
it like tells me it redirectsme where I'm supposed to be.
Like whenever I'm looking towhere, like oh, this didn't work
, it's terrible.
I'm not good at this.
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I read the Bible and it tellsme God's in control.
He knows what's going to happen.
What if, like the next day,you're like so excited because,
say, your favorite restaurantgave you free dessert?
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Reading God's word is like getting free dessert.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, it makes you really happy Okay.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Okay, very cool, interesting you.
Okay, I just didn't, I didn'tcatch it at first.
Do you enjoy singing or playingmusical instruments?
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yes, I do.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Like what.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I like to sing whenever, like sometimes,
whenever I'm sad, like sometimes, I like sing hymns or songs
that, like make me happy.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Like worship songs.
Yeah, like Jesus loves meworship songs.
Now one thing when I firststarted this podcast is about a
year and a half ago now One ofthe things that I loved about
Sunday morning was you wouldsing at the top of your lungs,
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like you would stand in onSunday morning and you would
just shout, and it was awesome.
And you still sing nice andloud.
I'm a little bit further awayfrom you now because we're at a
different location and adifferent stage.
The stage is so big, it's huge,but I can still hear you
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sometimes because you're justblasting out and you just love
to praise God, which Iabsolutely think is amazing.
What is it about singing to God?
That is just that makes youjust so excited.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Because, like you're praising God and like it makes
you feel like really happy.
Well, it makes me feel reallyhappy that like I get to praise
God and I can be a part of thechurch, because, like Zoe, she
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goes to kids worship.
You and mom both play aninstrument on stage and like I'm
the only one who like doesn'tgo anywhere, like big Well, like
I do, but like it's not like onstage having a microphone.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
But you play a huge role in our church, even not
having a quote unquote job likewhere you're serving every
single week.
You do serve every week becauseyour energy and your excitement
in worship doesn't just stay inyou, it like travels around to
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everybody else and I've heard itfrom so many people how much
they love seeing you worshipbecause you are just so
exuberant and so energetic andyou just sing out because you
love to sing and so it's reallycool to watch you and it's
really cool to hear other peopletell me how cool it is to watch
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you and to see you and to seeyour excitement.
So that really is just as muchof a leadership job in the
church, as much as me being onstage or mommy being on stage or
Zoe helping with kids.
Church.
It's a huge part of the worshipthat people experience every
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week and you are part of that,which is really cool.
If there's one thing you wantpeople to remember about, jesus
loves me what would it be?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
It would be like he loves you, he cares about you
and he died the death that wedeserved and he lived the life
that we couldn't live.
But now, and if you believe inhim, you'll have a life with him
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in heaven.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Very cool.
It's been fun having you on.
You're welcome.
Are you going to co-host everyweek now?
Maybe, Thanks for having me onyour show, Lily.
You're welcome.
We should probably wrap thingsup, shouldn't we?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
All right, and with that let's cue some transition
music, and then we're going tohear Jesus Loves Me by Nathan
Drake, of Reawakened Hymns thatsound like fun, yeah, cool.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Jesus loves me.
This and now, for the Bibletells me so.
The two wants to be with me.
He's going through it all, andhow can we miss?
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Jesus Loves Me and everything.
Jesus loves me.
He who died Heaven's gates toopen wide.
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He will wash away my sin.
Let His little child come in.
Yes, jesus loves me.
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The Bible tells me so.
Jesus loves me.
He will stay close beside meall the way.
Thou hast bled and died for me.
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I will now then live for Thee.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I will now then live for Thee.
That was Jesus Loves Me,performed by Nathan Drake of
Reawaken Hymns.
For more information about thissong and all the amazing
resources available at ReawakenHymns, check out the links in
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the show notes for this episode.
Hey Dad, is there anything moreabout the history of Jesus
Loves Me?
That might be interesting.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Well funny, you should ask.
Over the decades, jesus LovesMe has left an indelible mark on
the fabric of Christian worship.
To the cadets at West Point,the sisters were best known for
their Sunday Bible classes thatthey led at the Cadet Chapel.
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Summers were a special treatfor the cadets.
They would race to pile in theflat bottom boat before it
filled up and row over to theisland for classes.
The sisters loved sharing theirfaith with the cadets, and when
they were on military duty thecadets would sing Jesus Loves Me
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.
Neither sister ever got married.
Instead, both devoted theirlives to spreading the love of
Jesus with the cadets at WestPoint and to their writing.
Anne continued holding classesfor the cadets for 30 years.
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After the death of her sister,susan In 1915, anna Bartlett
Warner died.
Following the passing of bothher sister and her, the West
Point Academy paid tribute tothe sisters' unwavering and
godly influence over the youngmen who came through the academy
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.
Anna and Susan Warner were bothlaid to rest with full military
honors in the cemetery at WestPoint.
They remained the only twocivilians to have ever been
granted this extraordinary honor.
Their graves overlook theHudson River and Constitution
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Island.
At the end of her life, annagifted the island to the
military reservation of WestPoint, and West Point Academy
made the island into a nationalshrine.
Their home is now a museum intheir honor.
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It's a testament to the enduringlegacy of these two sisters and
the hymn that has changed thelives of generations, both old
and young, through a simpletruth that Jesus loves me.
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This I know, for the Bibletells me.
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Thank you again for listeningand I hope you all have a great
week.
Before we go, let me close usout in prayer.
Lord, I thank you so much foryour love.
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That's what this hymn is allabout.
Jesus loves me.
Yes, jesus loves me.
The Bible tells me so.
God, you remind us every singleday, as we continue to preach
the Gospel to ourselves.
We continue to remind ourselvesthat you love us and that we
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stand loved by a God who livedthe life we couldn't live and
died the death that we deservedso that we could have life, and
life abundant and full.
And that is the message of thissimple song that we have faith
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in a God who loves us beyond allmeasure.
And so, god, we thank you forthat.
We thank you for Jesus, wethank you for your love, and we
pray that you continue to showerthat love, that mercy, that
grace on us every single day aswe walk this life.
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God, we love you, we praise you, we give you all the glory and
all the honor in Jesus' name.
Amen.
God bless you all.
Have a great week and we willbe back here, wait wait, wait,
wait, wait.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I started it, so why don't I end it?
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Okay, you go ahead.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
God bless you all.
Have a great week and we'll seeyou back here next week.
We're out you.
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