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🔥 This episode is a powerful reminder that the path to purpose is rarely easy—but always worth it.

In this inspiring conversation, Coach Martin sits down with Dillon Smith to unpack a deeply personal and transformational journey of faith, failure, and finding purpose through entrepreneurship.

From launching a car wash business as a teen to facing homelessness with six children, Dillon’s story is nothing short of raw and real. But in the middle of brokenness, he heard a clear call from God:
 “You’re not stepping into what I’ve called you to do.”

That divine moment shifted everything. What started as a prayer over three days in a small salon suite quickly turned into a thriving business. Within 30 days, Dillon and his wife Crystal were earning more than they ever had—and God’s hand of acceleration didn’t stop there.

đź’ˇ From a single chair to a full-service salon...
 💡 From struggle to strategy...
 💡 From surviving to scaling a successful marketing agency rooted in purpose...

Coach Martin dives into the mindset shifts it takes to leave the "desert" and step into your promised land. This episode is a wake-up call for every entrepreneur stuck waiting for perfect conditions.

"God can’t move a parked car. You may never feel ready—but that doesn’t mean you’re not called."

If you've been waiting for a sign to step out in faith, this is it.

🎧 Tune in and be encouraged to trust the process, move with purpose, and build what God has placed on your heart.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What is going on, you guys?
Welcome back to the Grind man.
It's been a couple weeks.
There's been a lot going on, alot of changes happening, and I
will be sharing those with youguys throughout these next few
weeks.
But today we are jumping on aconversation that we had with
Coach Martin on the Coach MartinShow.
It was just such a blessing andhonor to be on his show and we

(00:22):
just dived into some reallygreat convos together, and
there's going to be many, manymore of these that we do
together.
So I just ask you to sit back,take a listen, and I hope that
you guys get something from thistoday.
Let's dive in.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Everybody welcome to the Coach Martin Show.
I'm your host, Coach Martin.
Today we got a special guest.
I love having guests on.
We got Dylan.
So Dylan is a guy.
You're going to get to know hima little bit.
Dylan is an entrepreneur atheart.
Dylan owns multiple businesses,but we're going to get into
that in a second.
So, dylan, welcome.
Thank you so much.
I'm super excited to be here.
Yeah, we're glad to have you onthe show.

(00:58):
So, dylan, I'd like to startoff.
Tell us a little about you.
Who are you, like you know,tell us a little about you.
Who are you.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, I'll start with my background.
I started a car wash businesswhen I was in high school and so
I knew I always had thisentrepreneur drive from the very
beginning and every time I hada job I was just struggling.
Maintaining that job Like thisjust doesn't feel right for me,

(01:24):
and so I know from a very youngage I've always had that job
Like this just doesn't feelright for me, and so I know from
a very young age I've alwayshad that drive and I always
wanted to start a business,couldn't keep a job or had a
hard time keeping a job, I justfelt the drive to lead.
And so over the years I'velearned through all these
businesses that differentaspects of the business, of what

(01:46):
to do, what not to do.
I don't know exactly how farback you want to go in the
background, as far as, like,where I started, how I started
things like that, but I startedwith the car wash business and
now we have a hair salon here inTemecula and a marketing
company here in Temecula Eightemployees now.
Huge story behind all that.
I don't know if you want me todive into all that, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yeah, and I do.
We're going to get into thatfor sure.
It's interesting because therecould be disagreement on this,
for sure, with people.
But I'm a believer that whenyou read the Word, we know that
the first thing God told usabout himself is he's creative.
In the beginning, god created,and if we're made in the image

(02:30):
of God, which we are the Biblesays it I think that that
creativity is inside all of us,right?
So even though you know, I know, for me it took, you know, even
though you know I did thingsand I think I had a little bit
of it when I was younger, Ididn't really start really
recognizing that creativity tillI was in my thirties.
You know what I mean.
So some people get it a littlebit earlier, some people get a

(02:51):
little bit later, but whereveryou are, trust me when I tell
you I believe it's inside all ofus, right.
So that's cool.
So you were able to, you wereable to kind of decipher that
early, right?
So with your carwash businessthen, from there, did you go to
a marketing company or did yougo to the salon?
How did that work?

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Yeah.
So I was doing the carwashbusiness Um, kind of hard to
keep up with when I was in highschool.
So I ended up going andstarting to work at Best Buy,
which was different for my agearound that time because a lot
of people were getting like fastfood jobs, not a lot of people
getting like retail jobs.
A lot of a lot of peoplegetting the retail jobs at that
time were a lot older.

(03:27):
You know, I was working withpeople in their late twenties,
early thirties, and so thatwhole process of just like
getting hired, working forsomebody is when I started to
initially realize like hey, this, this isn't what I'm built to
do.
This isn't what I'm built to do, but it's what I need to do
right now.
From there I started working atan airline factoring company and

(03:52):
again just did not feel like Iwas living in my calling, fast
forward a little bit, ended uphaving kids young, and so I did
what I needed to do and I jumpedinto truck driving for quite a
few years just to pay bills,make sure that family was taken
care of.
But gradually I just reallystarted to realize like I, I, I

(04:15):
cannot keep living in this senseof like working for somebody
like this is not what I'm calledto do.
And the closer I got to God,the more I realized, like this,
just this is not what I'm calledto do.
And the closer I got to God,the more I realized, like this,
just this is not what he'scalled me to do.
So fast forward a little bitmore.
Got out of truck driving.
We went through some thingswith my wife Crystal mentally,

(04:38):
and so I had to step out oftruck driving and at the end of
the day, it was a godsendbecause it got me out of a place
where God didn't even want mein the first place.
And at the end of the day, itwas a godsend because it got me
out of a place where God didn'teven want me in the first place
and at the same time, he wastaking care of something within
Crystal.
And so fast forward a littlebit further.
We were homeless and we'reliving out of a trailer, jumping
around campgrounds, six kids.

(04:59):
We actually lived in a hotelfor two weeks and the Lord
really just spoke to me and waslike you really need to just
step into your calling Cause.
I was sitting there praying,lord, if you get me out of this.
I will just, I will serve youtill the day I die, like I, I
literally just need your help,like my family's struggling and
we need to get out of this.

(05:20):
And so that's when he reallywas like you continue to not
obey me, you're not steppinginto what I've called you to do.
Well, fast forward a little bit,like maybe a few months go by
and one of Crystal's oldcoworkers reached out.
She had a salon suite.
She was like hey, I'm notworking here Sundays, mondays
and Tuesdays.
Would you like to take over onthose days and take clients and,

(05:43):
you know, start your ownbusiness?
And Crystal texted me rightaway and was like hey, what do
you think about this?
Now, this has happened before.
And before I was like no, it'slike we just need a steady
income, blah, blah, blah.
This time I was like you knowwhat, let's pray about it.
We prayed about it for a goodweek or so and we're like yeah,
let's do it.

(06:03):
We always knew like, because wehad gone back to church.
Now, sundays was anon-negotiable we're going to
church on Sundays, we areserving.
That is when we're like okay,sundays you'll, we'll go to
church and you'll do a half aday at the salon after, and then
work full day Monday, full dayTuesday, a day at the salon

(06:28):
after, and then work full daymonday, full day tuesday.
Well, within the first month 30days she was making more money
than we had ever made in a month.
And I was like, okay, god, isit, god's here, god's in this?
Like, this is what he wanted usto do.
I'm stepping into that callingthat he's always had on my heart
to start a business and we'regoing to do this together.
That's when I told chris like,hey, I promise that I will get
the clients in the door.

(06:48):
I know how to get clientscoming.
Your only job is to keep themcoming back and client happiness
.
That is it.
The rest will take care ofitself.
And so after that first month westarted okay, let's look for
your own salon suite so you canhave a whole week of doing
clients Within that first monthwe started.
Okay, let's look for your ownsalon suite so you can have a
whole week of doing clientsWithin that first month.
She got her own salon suite.

(07:10):
We moved into there.
She was in there for about fourmonths.
I was like man, I just feelthis stirring, like we got to do
more.
We got to do more.
We need a bigger space.
I don't, because they had adouble suite too, where you

(07:30):
could fit like two chairs inthere and you could have another
person in there with you.
I was like man I, it'd be greatif we could get one of those.
Hire somebody we can move tothat suite.
But nothing was open at theplace that we were at.
About a month goes by andsomebody at the place that we
were at reached out to crystal,was like hey, I have somebody
moving out of my suite.
I need a smaller suite.
Would you be interested intrading now?
This is a complete godsendbecause we weren't seeking it.
She came to crystal and as soonas crystal text me like we got

(07:52):
to do it, like this has been onour heart for like a month and
now it just appeared and came up.
So we moved in there, hired ourfirst employee.
Five, five months go by and Itell Crystal I don't know how
this makes any sense at all, butI feel like the Lord really
wants us to move into somethingbigger.
And at that time she's likethat doesn't make any sense to

(08:15):
me.
How are we supposed to moveinto something bigger Like we
just moved into this place.
It's like I don't know.
I just really feel the stirringto do that, like he wants more
from us, and so I started tosearch for like a storefront.
Well, I was looking at oneclose by and when I reached out

(08:36):
to the broker, the brokers hadsaid, yeah, you can look at that
one, but there's this otherplace in Temecula, previous hair
salon.
They're moving out,everything's already set up.
Would you want to go look atthat?
I started crying because it waslike God is in this whole

(08:59):
situation and if he truly wantsus to have this, he's going to
provide it for us.
Because at the time and this isthe part that made no sense At
the time we had no credit, wedidn't have the finances, really
, we had one employee, and nowwe're looking for this big space
.
And so I went and looked at himlike this is perfect, we don't

(09:21):
have to do any build outs, so wedon't need a ton of finances,
things like that, and so we sendin the application.
I went over to that parking lotfor three weeks straight, every
single night, prayed Lord, letyour will be done.
If you want this to happen,open the door, if not just close
the store for three weeksstraight.

(09:42):
By the third week we got anemail saying that we got
approved and we were able tomove in the following month.
And so it was like during thistime where I'm like, okay, this
is what happens when you'reliving in God's calling what
he's called you to do and whenyou're actually praying and
listening to him and I think somany times we can get so focused

(10:03):
on money and I know you hadtalked about that this last week
is we get so focused on themoney.
The money will follow, but weneed to first follow what God's
called us to do so he can be inthis in every situation, right?
So it was just like a coolexperience of a blessing, um,
very emotional time for for us,just within one year, to go from

(10:24):
homeless to now having a salonthat has a storefront.
So that's a little bit of ourstory with that Um.
And then after that, I got intomarketing full time for a
company locally and Marietta wasdoing a little bit of work for
them.
And then I started seeing likefriends and family getting taken
advantage of by marketingcompanies and just price gouging

(10:45):
and like a lot of marketing isthe same for every business.
It's very similar.
Of marketing is the same forevery business.
It's very similar.
And so I was like you know whatI feel called to just step out
on my own and help friends andfamily with their businesses and
bring what I know and myknowledge to to them and do
whatever I can for them.

(11:05):
So just this last year Istepped out and started my own
marketing company.
Within that first month Ialready had one or two clients
and has gradually grown sinceand it's been a blessing to just
be able to connect with you andwork with you and now have an
employee with the marketingcompany and overall it's just

(11:26):
really cool to see God movingand God doing His work like he
can.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, super interesting.
So there's a lot there.
There's a couple pieces that Ikind of want to touch on because
it's interesting.
What happens is and this isn't,like you know, even right now
this is from the beginning oftime, so it doesn't matter what
generation you want to go to,they all have done the same
thing that we do today.
So we make bad choices and weget in trouble.

(11:53):
And then we're like, oh, we'rein trouble, lord, save us Now a
lot of times, like we getthrough that, but we continue
doing it.
It's like a Ferris wheel.
It goes around and around andaround and around.
And if you read, especially inthe Old Testament, it's like
story after story after storyafter story after story.
This is how it happens.
They, you know, they cry out toGod when they're in trouble and

(12:19):
then things are good when Godsaves them.
And then they, you know theymake bad choices, bad choices,
turn their back on God and theyget back in trouble again and
it's like a perpetual thing.
But it's interesting becauseyou know when you guys were
going through what you weregoing through, right, it's easy
to just sit there and stay there.
But I think the interestingthing is two things happen when
we're there.
One we either learn from it orwe don't, and it repeats.

(12:41):
So God uses every situation andI think that's why God says all
things work for the good.
I think he uses every situationfor an opportunity for you to
grow.
And I think what so many peoplemiss, especially that come into
the business world, is theythink if they have the business,
they think the thing is thething that will allow them to

(13:01):
get from A to B.
And that's not how it works.
It always starts with us.
So God wants to use these areas, even if they're not the best
areas, to grow us.
So we're prepared so that way,when the opportunity arises,
we're able to walk through thosedoors.
I'll give you an example.
A lot of times when we think ofDavid, we always know David

(13:22):
killed Goliath, right, and we'relike, oh yeah, he did that.
But what a lot of times weforget is when he was a shepherd
, he fought the lion and thebear.
Now it's kind of crazy when youthink about it.
A lion comes and takes one ofyour sheep.
You're going to go after it,grab it by the beard and kill it
.
No way.
You're like, hey, enjoy thesheep, I got the other ones.

(13:43):
No way I'm going to chase andfight this lion over one sheep.
But what happened was Godprepared him during that time.
He stepped up to the challenge,he got prepared and then he was
able to be the only one thatdidn't fear and fought the giant
Right.
So I love that.
I love the fact that you know,obviously you know it was
deposited in your heart, youwere aware of it.

(14:04):
I love the fact that, eventhough you guys were going
through hard times, you knowyour hard time doesn't define
you, doesn't have to define you.
It's just a, it's like a, it'san area where we can grow and
you grew from it.
And I love the fact that you'refaithful and you moved your.
You moved your feet andultimately, from that, because I
think, ultimately, dylan, Ithink God is looking for people

(14:25):
that are going to take actionand I think most people just
don't take action.
I think most people would ratherlive in comfort, they'd rather
be safe.
You know, even in Jeremiah,there's a part where you know
the people were talking aboutlike, oh, we just, we want no
war, we want food.
You know, we really don't wantto have to do anything, we want
to live in comfort and there'sno growth in comfort ever.

(14:47):
So I think that God wants to dosomething big.
In all of his kids, all of us,he's just saying, hey, who is
willing to trust me and movetheir feet.
So I love the story, man, Ilove it, and I love the fact
that this is just the beginningof it.
So I think that a lot of timeswe have big dreams, but I think

(15:09):
that if God lifted the veil andwe were able to see his dream
for us, it would be totallydifferent.
He's like only shown us pieces.
He's not shown us the wholething, right.
So I think that's super amazing.
You know what I mean.
And I think the cool thing aswell, dylan, is, like you know,
we just talked recently about,you know, don't chasing the
money and I know that soundscounter, you knowuitive, where

(15:32):
we're like well, maybe we'redoing this for the money.
A lot of people might reallythink that, but what I'm trying
to say is, when you add valuebecause I think that's what all
business is is being a valueadder we find a problem, we
solve a problem.
If you're talking about hairpeople need to get their hair
cut you're solving a problem Ifyou're talking about marketing.

(15:57):
Every business in the worldneeds to get customers.
You need to find clients.
Marketing can help you do that.
It's solving a problem.
So I think that's allbusinesses and I think the
better we get at solvingproblems and providing value I
always say all the time profitalways follows value.
So it's kind of like themoney's the shadow.
So as long as you're doing thethings you're going to do, the
money is going to follow.
You can't run from it.
It's just like turn around andit's there.
So instead of chasing theshadow, chase the things and the

(16:20):
principles that God tells ushow to do it, why to do it and
who to do it for, and the moneywill always follow.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, definitely learned that along the way of
like putting God first beforeanything else.
Everything else will followyour home, life, your friends,
the money everything else willfollow.
You just can't put anythingahead of God.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Yeah, so it's just really trust right.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah.
So tell me a little bit moreabout you and your story and how
you got here.
I know you've talked about it alittle bit, but I know we're
going to try and start doingthis more frequently.
So I think just givingeverybody kind of a rundown of
both of us and our backstory andwhat we're planning on doing
because I know just with whatwe're doing here with the

(17:09):
software company, is going to bebig, big things.
I'm super excited about it andI get fired up every time I get
to be over here.
So just tell me a little bitmore about you and your story
and how we got to where we aretoday.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, that's awesome today.
Yeah, that's awesome, yeah.
So so you know, I'm one where,you know, I wish, I wish I could
tell you that I was.
You know, I went to college andI played sports and I was a,
you know, professional athlete.
I love sports and I think it'dbe super cool to be able to do
that.
You know that wasn't my story.
You know, I, I, I went throughschool.
School was, school was okay.

(17:48):
I, I was a wrestler.
I learned a lot from practiceand from being on the mat.
Those principles Went tocollege for a couple days.
It wasn't for me.
I went into the workforce, butone.
I always had a work ethic.
I always believed it was secondto none that my mother, who was
a single mother, taught me.
So everywhere I went, I wasable to move up to become a

(18:15):
manager or executive or incharge, wherever I went, and it
kind of served me well.
But when I was young, I movedup and moved up the ladder in
retail.
But one thing I didn't learn isyour income is always capped
and you just don't really, whenyou're 18 years old, you just
don't really know all that stuff.
So you think it's great, youknow, because you're 20 years
old and you bought your firsthome and you got a car and a

(18:37):
truck and a boat and you thinkeverything's great.
But you don't think ahead.
You just you live more in thelike, in the moment things are
cool.
You know what I mean.
But then you know, 10 yearslater, what happens is costs
rise, you have children, allthese things are more expensive,
but you're making the sameamount of income.
So it just didn't work for me.
And that's when I really startedto be like, okay, I need to,

(18:59):
what do I need to do?
And then I remember at first Iwas going to become an appraiser
and go that route and have myown business and everyone told
me not to.
All my friends at work are likeoh, you're crazy.
You know there's safety,there's safety, you have a job,
you have health insurance, youhave a pension.
Are you crazy?

(19:19):
But you know, I knew that atthat point, if nothing changes,
nothing changes and I had to dosomething different or I was
going to sit here and complainabout it for the rest of my life
.
And I went the route and itwasn't easy, it was, it was very
hard.
But you know, I remember, youknow now, all of a sudden, I'm,
you know, I have an appraisalcompany, you know, making a
quarter of a million dollars ayear and then some, and I was

(19:42):
like, and that's when the Lordopened my eyes, to be like, you
know, I'm going to show yousomething different, and it just
changed everything Right.
So now the journey on this sideright now is, you know, years
ago, the Lord deposited in myheart, um, you know, I kind of
played with software and andbeing able to help athletes.

(20:02):
So it's about the finding, um,finding issues and solving those
issues Right.
And a lot of athletes have ahard time getting recruited,
especially today.
If you're a high school athlete, it's hard today to get
recruited.
You have the transfer portal,you have all this stuff.
So, basically, going in, I kindof struggled with this and then
one day at church, the Lordliterally used the preacher to

(20:25):
stop service and walk over andpour into myself and my wife and
it was interesting because itwas just a game changer it
pouring to myself and my wife,and it was interesting because
it was just a game changer.
It was funny how good God is.
So, even when you don't listen,like, like at church, where you
think that would never happen.
It happened Like he stoppedservice and literally walked
over and pointed and poured intous.

(20:45):
So it was just superinteresting and you know it was
scary.
Anyone that's done a businessyou know it's scary.
And but you know again, ifnothing changes, nothing changes
.
So we went forward and you know, we started our business and we
have a software company forathletes that are trying to get
recruited.
Basically it allows them to gettheir game in front of any
college coach at the push of abutton.
But then, interesting Dylan wasa few years later.

(21:07):
You know, the Lord showed methat you know no-transcript.
We have a side where we havethe software division, where we

(21:29):
help athletes with powerfulsoftware, but have a business
side where we help them.
Men and women come in and buildthriving businesses, whether
somebody wants to, like you know, maybe only make you know, two,
three, four, five thousanddollars extra a year, or maybe
somebody wants to make over halfa million dollars a year.
So that part is super, super,super exciting to me.
But the thing I really loveabout it it's not just helping

(21:50):
people be able to build wealthin a space where they no longer
have to trade their time formoney, but I love the fact that
we have now a captive audiencethat we can pour into on a daily
basis.
And I'll tell you, if you wereto ask me this years ago, I
would have never saw that piece,and I truly think that
businesses and I'm going to godeep just for a second I think

(22:13):
businesses this way too, becausethe bigger you get it, the more
people that you have workingfor you, and the more people
that you have working for youright, the more influence and
impact you have on those people.
So it's kind of interestingbecause when you look at it,
like, the more you trust theLord and you move your feet and
you are faithful and you do it,and the bigger it gets, the more

(22:34):
people that you can impact andinfluence, which I believe
that's the ultimate goal anyways.
We're supposed to be here toimpact and influence people for
the kingdom.
So now I have this big oldgroup of 100 plus men and women
on the business and theaffiliate side that I could go
in and teach God's principles, Icould go and share the goodness

(22:55):
of God, and I have a captiveaudience to be able to do that,
which is so fulfilling.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah, absolutely.
I love it.
I love hearing your story everytime and it's been cool to see
like the business side andgetting business owners on,
because as a marketing companyas well, you're like working
with business owners.
My question to you would bewhat is the biggest thing that
you see?
Because I know we've talkedabout the red hula hoop what is

(23:20):
the biggest thing you see whenpeople come on as a business
owner to get them to move alongand grow mentally?
I guess I should say um, becausea lot of times when they come
in, they're very like they'renot thinking outside the box,
they don't even know.
Times when they come in they'revery like they're not thinking
outside the box.
They don't even know how to geta logo, Like they're just at
the very beginning.
Yeah, so how?
What is the biggest challengethat you've seen?

(23:40):
Trying to get them to take thenext steps and grow.
As far as a business owner goes, Cause I think a lot of times
we've talked about it we runinto kind of the same issues
with business owners evenoutside of the sports box.
Like the marketing company, Irun into the same issues of
trying to get people to stepoutside of this like only what

(24:01):
they've known their whole lifeand to think bigger.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Yeah, so that's actually a great question.
So I'm going to start with astory.
So I'm going to take you allthe way back to back in in the
days of egypt, when god's peoplewere slaves, and it was a
horrible situation.
We know that there were slaves,for you know, for all those
years.
And and then we know the storyright, god used moses to go
there, went through the plagues.
The people ended up leaving.

(24:24):
They go, got part of the seaand then they went.
Well, the interesting part isafter that.
So these men and women were inthe desert for 40 years
complaining, complaining, like,if you haven't read it, I'm
going to encourage you to go andread this section.
They're complaining over andover again.
They're complaining because youknow food.
They're complaining because youknow it's now.

(24:47):
They don't get meat.
God gives them quail, like overand over.
Then they start talking aboutwell, we had all of that back
then.
Think about how crazy that isfor a minute.
Because you were slaves backthere, like you're.
You're like focused on food.
So I realized that nothing'schanged, right, it's the same
back then.
It is today.

(25:08):
So a lot of times we get peoplein.
I know that giving them thebusiness it just that's not how
it is.
They're never going to makemoney because they're, they're
in the, they're the men andwomen in the desert.
Most, most of them, they're theones that are in the desert.
Now there's outliers wherethey're not.
They they're, they're focusedand they're, you know, they're
self-driven and they're going todo what they're going to do.
But most get them likerealizing why they took this

(25:40):
step.
What are they trying toaccomplish?
Now, the truth of the matter isthey can say I could say like,
hey, dylan, you know, welcome tothe business, right, welcome to
the family.
What are you looking toaccomplish?
And you can say well, you know,I'd like to do this.
But the truth of the matter isyou really don't believe in it,
right?
So I have to get you to believein it.
No-transcript, you know what ifit takes me?

(26:23):
What if it takes me, you know,10 years to earn a million
dollars?
Well, the 10 years is going topass, no matter what it's going
to pass.
So you're either going to be inthe situation you are right now
in 10 years, or like, let's doit.
So, I think, getting people tosee it, to believe it, to get
excited, and then, ultimatelynow we want to be able to teach

(26:46):
them and grow them and allowthem to be able to go through
that process much quicker thanspending years and years in the
valley of trial and error.
Right, which is why we do thetraining and we so focus on that
.
But the truth of the matter is,I think it just comes down to
belief you think about.
The Bible says to test allthings and hold fast to what's
right or what's good.
So I could say that I believein fill in the blank, but if I'm

(27:10):
not actually moving my feet ortaking those steps, the truth of
the matter is I don't reallybelieve, and that's what it
comes down to.
A lot of times.
We have good intentions, so wesign up for something, but in
our mind, in our subconscious,we don't believe.
And then what happens is oursubconscious will look for
things to validate what ourbelief is.
So if I say, oh, man, I reallywant to be able to do that, but

(27:34):
I just believe that, oh, life,whatever can go wrong, will go
wrong, I start believing stupidstuff like that, then my
subconscious will look for stuffand the minute trouble comes
it'll say, oh, you were right,there it is, so I got to help do
a mind shift with them and belike erase all the bad patterns

(27:56):
and the nonsense.
That's not serving you.
It's actually doing opposite.
That's not serving you.
It's actually doing opposite.
It's holding you back and it'skeeping you from walking into
where God wants you to walk into.
And think about it.
When it was time for the peopleto walk into the promised land,
they all died in the desert,everybody 20 years and older,

(28:16):
except for Joshua and Caleb.
So let's not be people that diein the desert.
Let's be people that walk intothe promises of God.
Trust him, we walk into it andthen we watch and see what his
power does through us.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, that's so good.
As you were talking, I kind ofhad my wheels turning a little
bit and I want to backtrack evenone step Same thing with the
marketing company, even one stepSame thing with the marketing
company.
The hardest part is justgetting somebody to say yes.
So I want to backtrack for,like your business side, you

(28:49):
have a package that's as low as$79 a month to start a business,
which to me blows my mind thatyou can start a business for $79
a month.
The businesses we've startedwas not that.
So just the opportunity thatpeople have to do that boggles
my mind.
But then you have people thatstill say no, like they're

(29:12):
searching for it but thenthey're still saying no.
So how do you tackle thathurdle when you're on a phone
call with these people and justtrying to even get them on the
program, because once you havethem on the program you can work
on them and work on theirmindset but how do you overcome
that on the initial phone call?

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yeah.
So it's a great question.
So I'm going to give you mytake on it.
My take could be totally wrongand it could be different than
what our viewers are used to orwhat they believe or what
they've been taught.
But I'm one where I can't wantit more than you, I can't.
So I don't go into it where,like, I have to have this person
and I try never to have thatright or in sales, you call it

(29:52):
commission breath.
I don't, because I'm not goingto, I can't.
I can't want your dream morethan you.
Right, you got to want yourdream.
So I just look at it like, ifI'm on the phone with them for
10 minutes, I have 10 minutes tobe able to impact and influence
them and hopefully that canstay in them and maybe next time
they're going through hardshipthey'll remember, hey, that
phone call with coach Martin,that's all.
It is right.

(30:12):
Our job think about it is toplant in the water and the Lord
brings the increase.
So, even on a call, I'm justgoing to plant, I'm going to
water, I'm going to let themknow what could be, what could
be like, what could their lifebe like?
What could their children'slife be like?
Can you imagine buildingsomething so big that
generations that don't even getto physically see you are

(30:34):
impacted by you?
So I have that shortopportunity to like, build them
up and show them like what couldbe.
Yeah Right, but ultimately weall have to move our own feet.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yeah, no, I, I completely understand, cause I
all go into meetings, or Owenwill go into meetings, and you
just get into these meetings andwhen you're talking to them,
sometimes it feels like you wantit more than them, like hey, we
can get your business here, wecan do this as far as marketing,
and it's like why am I wantingthis more than you?

(31:07):
And it's sometimes veryconfusing and I'm like I don't
even understand why you have abusiness if you're not really
wanting it.
And so I that's why I wanted toask just because it's confusing
sometimes of like and so Ithat's why I wanted to ask, just
because it's confusingsometimes of like, why'd you
start this?
But then you don't want to growor do anything with it.
It just doesn't make sense tome.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah, I get it.
I would even encourage you tokind of like dive in real
quickly on that, right, thinkabout it.
So, the particular people thatare in this situation, right,
they're in the process, they'remore at the beginning of the
process, but there's still aprocess and remember, like
they've been lied to and they'vebeen, you know, they've been
told stories that doesn't.

(31:48):
That don't serve them.
So they live in comfort.
Right, which comfort will?
The thing about it is?
It's not supposed to be aboutus.
I get it.
We want to be able to not haveto worry about money, not have
to worry about any of that stuff.
I get it.
But ultimately, as a believer,it's not about you and it's not
about me.
It's about how we can serve,how we can pour to impact and

(32:10):
influence God's people.
That's the goal when we're liedto and I think we're lied to by
the enemy to just stay incomfort.
So we've been conditioned, ourparents have been conditioned,
our grandparents have beenconditioned, everyone's been
conditioned to like, hey, livein comfort, get a good job, get

(32:32):
stability, get your deal, you'resafe, play it safe.
You know what I mean.
And playing safe doesn't servethe world.
So just remember, it is aprocess with people.
You know what I mean.
So, like before, I could getimpatient and be like, oh, get
out.
But they have to go through thesame process as you and I, and
we're still going through theprocess.
We all go through the processinto the day we leave.

(32:53):
So you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, the comfort thing definitely sticks for me
because I've noticed there'sactually been one company where
it was an older gentleman thatwas leaving and a younger kid
coming in and he's like fired upand all about it.
But it's always the guys thathave had the business 10 years,
15 years.
They're just living in comfort,like hey, I don't need more,
like I'm good where I'm at.

(33:16):
But then you have these, thenew generation coming up that
actually want to beentrepreneurs, which I feel like
during this time is very, veryfar and few between.
Like there's not a lot ofpeople during my generation that
really want to start businessesor go out and do those things.
So when I see it I get excitedseeing them pumped up and

(33:39):
excited and fired up and takingthat step to grow.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, you know, we've never had a time in the history
of our planet where we've beenable to have a time as today
where people can build wealth atthe rate that they can build it
.
But, with that being said,we've never had a time in the
history of our country, theplanet, where people have been
more distracted.

(34:04):
And you know, I do think it allcomes down to.
You know, the enemy distractsus, he puts us in comfort, and
these are lids that have beenplaced on us.
It's generational.
And then when we eventuallycome to the realization that it
truly is not about us, so I'mgoing to do the things I'm going
to do.
It's not just about myself andmy wife, it's about God's people

(34:26):
.
Now, we're going to be thebenefactors of that because, as
I was saying about the money inthe shadow, it's going to still
be there, but ultimately, it'sabout providing value and impact
to God's people, and I thinkthat's what we're called to do.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
So they'll get there.
It just might take them alittle bit longer.
Yeah, yeah, definitely, and Iknow you've talked about how
businesses are going to bebasically what kind of helps
build the God's kingdom duringthis time right.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah, you know it's interesting.
You know Billy Graham has afamous quote right that he
believes in the end time.
You know the, the move of Godwill come through the
marketplace.
But, um, you know I mean go gobiblically, you know what I mean
.
Like the Lord took all his um,you know all his apostles in the
marketplace.
He found them all.
You know, when you even look atthe statistics, right, I think I

(35:14):
read, you know, the other daywhere it was like 76% of funds
used for like poor and homelessare done through the private
sector.
Well, how, you think, how canthat be?
We've spent, you know, probablyyou know, hundreds of billions
of dollars.
But the private sector, in theprivate sector, you have an
opportunity like the.
The the bigger your companygets, the more money you earn,

(35:35):
the more impact and influenceyou have, and money's a tool, so
you have the ability to usethat tool to impact and
influence more people.
You know what I mean, andthat's influence, like I always
think of.
Like.
Think about, you know, being ata restaurant with your wife and
you know the.
The server comes to you and youknow she's lady and she's you
could tell she's holding backtears and you're like, hey, you

(35:57):
know what's going on.
And she's like I can't talkabout it.
No, what's going on?
Oh, I'm a single mom, I can'tpay my rent, I'm about to get
kicked out.
I don't know where to go.
Most of us, as believers, willbe like oh, I'll pray for you.
You know what I mean and weshould pray for her.
But there's no impact in that.
You know what I mean mean.
There's no impact just to sayI'm going to pray for you.

(36:19):
Imagine being the one that says, hey, you know what?
How much is your rent?
What if I take care of it forthe next 12 months?
What if I take care of it forthe next five years?
Oh my gosh, you would do that.
No, the Lord is going to dothat.
He told me to take care of it.
You know what I mean.
There's impact in that.
So when I look at it from abusiness standpoint, man, you

(36:39):
have the ability to impact somuch you really do, and you're
going to get people that arealways going to be like, oh you
know, I can't believe you, orwhatever the case is.
But you know, when you look atthe Bible, I mean, who is the
one that complained about themoney?
You know it's usually the onethat you know that it doesn't
have pure thoughts in the firstplace.
So that's how I look atbusiness.

(37:00):
I look at money as a tool thatwe truly get to help and impact
people in a mighty, mighty way.
And God's called us, asbelievers anyways, to leave an
inheritance to our children'schildren.
So it's a command, you knowwhat I mean.
A command to be able to notjust set up your kids but your
kids' kids.
That's a command of the Lordthat I think a lot of times

(37:21):
believers forget about.
So I love it.
I mean I love it.
I'm not going to say it's easy,it's not easy, it's not supposed
to be easy, it's supposed to bechallenging because God's a
process.
God, think about for a minute,if God could I tell people this,
god could have createdeverything in a moment.

(37:41):
He could have he's God, but hedidn't.
He didn't.
He created everything in sixdays.
Why?
Why didn't he just createeverything at the very moment?
Process.
It's a process.
So he's leading by example,he's showing you that everything
is a process.
So we should embrace theprocess because in the process

(38:04):
we grow and we get ready so wecan walk through the doors right
that he has for us, in thiscase the promised land or your
purpose.
You know what he's purposed youfor.
So you know.
I would say we have to embraceit, we have to like.
You know, hey, I don'tunderstand it, I'm going to be
scared, but, lord, I'm going totrust you.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Yeah, I'll end with this final question and I'll let
you close it out, if you want.
Um, if somebody is teetering onwanting to start a business, or
they've been talking about itfor a year or two and they kind
of feel that pull but they'rejust struggling with making the
leap, what advice would you givethem?

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yeah, I would always say that you know, god's never
going to move a parked car, he'snot going to right.
So it's about it's never aboutcoming to the place where you're
ready, because you're nevergoing to feel ready, you're not.
It's about working the muscleof intentionality.
So you're going to have to getto the point where you just said
listen, I'm scared, lord, Idon't get it.

(39:03):
But I believe that you put thatin my heart and I'm going to
trust you.
So what God asked you to do isto stand up and walk to the Red
Sea and watch the Lord part theRed Sea.
But he ain't parting it unlessyou get up and walk to it.
He didn't part it while theywere back in Egypt.
So you got to get up andactually walk.
We got to move our feet asChristians.
That's what we're called to do,right, I always say that we're
not the ones that control theoutcomes.

(39:24):
The Lord is, but we have to dothe things that God tells us to
do so he can actually move thoselevers.
You know what I mean.
He could do whatever he wants,but he chooses to partner with
his people.
But it starts with do youbelieve?
And if you do, do you have toget up and you got to move your
feet.
And the cool thing about it is,like I always and I'll kind of

(39:44):
end it this way think of like amountain, so you think of a
mountain, so you have a mountain.
Now there's probably a lot ofdifferent ways to climb this
mountain.
There's probably a straight wayit's probably like harder, and
there's probably one.
We can go to the right and it'sgot a lot of ziggy zaggiesgies
and you could probably go to theleft.
You're probably all these waysand I kind of look at it like
with us, because at the end ofthe day, right, even if you take

(40:06):
the wrong path, the Lord'sgoing to redirect you.
So the Lord will close thedoors and He'll open other ones.
But if you don't move your feetand you're at the bottom of the
mountain, he's not hopinganything, because it starts with
us moving your feet.
So what I would tell you is, ifthe Lord deposited something in
your heart trust that it was hethat deposited in your heart

(40:26):
Then I would encourage you toget up, move your feet and get
rocking and rolling.
Now, if you're scared, you know,definitely I can go on and get
yourself some mentors.
We get friends that are goingto be in your corner, that are
not going to be like, oh no, no,don't leave comfort.
No, get friends that are goingto be in your corner, that are
not going to be like, oh no, no,don't leave comfort.
No, get friends that are goingto encourage you, that are going
to help you.
What can I do?
Is there anything I could dofor you?

(40:47):
You want to make sure that youhave an environment like that.
Get a team around you that'sgoing to help you, because
there's going to have days whenyou feel like quitting.
There's many days where I feltlike quitting.
I'm sure there's a gazilliondays where you felt like

(41:08):
quitting.
It's just human nature.
But trust me, if you trust himand we move our feet and we
watch what a powerful God can doin our lives, you're going to
look back and be like, oh, I'mso thankful that I did.
Awesome, awesome, dylan.
It was a pleasure having you,man.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Yeah, absolutely.
It's been an honor and lookforward to doing more of these.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Yeah, for sure.
So everyone, have a great day.
Make sure you share this.
I'm sure you have friends outthere that definitely need to
hear this.
Follow us on social until nexttime.
I'm coach Martin.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
I'm Dylan.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
And we are out.
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