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April 14, 2025 • 15 mins

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Unlock the secrets to making math a joyous journey for your homeschoolers! Join me as I sit down with Carolyn, a homeschooling pro who has found her rhythm with the Math with Confidence curriculum. She's here to spill the beans on how this intuitive resource has transformed her daily teaching routine. Designed as an 'open and go' tool, it offers clear, streamlined lesson plans that have been a game-changer for her two young scholars. Through her narrative, we get a peek into the engaging warm-up activities, comprehensive work pages, and the curriculum's unique way of piecing together concepts from number recognition for the little ones to fractions and geometry for the older kids.

Carolyn's insights shed light on the spiral learning technique at the heart of Math with Confidence, ensuring that key skills stick through consistent review, an approach that has her kids mastering math with, well, confidence! Each lesson is crafted to be digestible, making it a practical choice for any homeschooling family. Whether you're a seasoned veteran or new to the homeschooling scene, this episode is packed with wisdom that could help you turn math lessons from dreaded to anticipated. Plus, don't miss Carolyn's personal stories and tips over on Instagram @unboxed.learning.at.home, where she documents her family's educational adventures.


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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to the Homeschool How-To Find my
Curriculum, a series where wetalk all about curriculum.
I've been interviewinghomeschooling families for over
a year now on my main podcast,the Homeschool How-To, but I
really wanted to zero in oncurriculum.
There's so much out there.
How do I know what would workbest for me and my child?
How do I know what works forone child would work for the
other?
I might like the curriculum I'musing now, but how do I know

(00:25):
there's not a better one outthere, especially if I don't
know all the curriculums?
And what about supplementalcurriculum?
Should I be using that too?
This series is to help youdecide just that.
I'm going to interview parentswho are using all the
curriculums so that you candecide the absolute best way to
unfold your homeschoolingjourney.
The absolute best way to unfoldyour homeschooling journey.

(00:47):
Welcome With us.
Today we have Carolyn.
Hi, carolyn, how are you?
Thank you for being here, hi,I'm good.
Thanks.
Thanks for having me Well,thank you for being on here.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Do you have your own entrepreneurship around
homeschooling as well?
I just share a lot about whatwe do day to day on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, unbox learning at home, okay great, which I can
put that in the show'sdescription too.
So I'll have you send me thatlink if anyone wants to check
you out further.
So what we are going to talkabout today is math with
confidence.
I know nothing about this whenI've heard of it, but I'm really
excited to learn about itbecause I have been using the

(01:28):
good and the beautiful with myson at the kindergarten level
and I spoke with Justine in adifferent episode also about the
good and the beautiful, so thatseems like that's very heavily
on everyone's radar.
I don't know if their marketingis better than anyone else's,
and that's why but I really wantto get into alternatives and so

(01:49):
if you could just kind of tellus about the ages of your kids
that you use math withconfidence.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
So I have a five-year-old and an
eight-year-old, so we are usingthe kindergarten with the
five-year-old and then the gradethree or third grade with my
eight-year-old.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Oh, perfect.
So this will be a nicecomparison, because I'm doing
the five-year-old level,kindergarten level as well.
Okay, so the math withconfidence.
Obviously it's for math Firstof all.
Is it what they call an openand go curriculum?

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yes, yes, so open and go.
Basically you can.
It tells you exactly what youneed to say to teach each lesson
, and I really love that becauseit kind of takes the guesswork
out of it and it's written invery simple terms for your child
to understand.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Oh, that's awesome.
And what does the day-to-daysort of look like with this
curriculum?
And you know, do you do thekindergarten and the third grade
level at the same time or doyou do one-on-one with you know
separately?

Speaker 2 (02:56):
I would love to do it at the same time, but with the
age gap is is too large to beable to do it at the same time,
so I do do it one on one withthem.
So for each of them there's atextbook and a workbook, and
each lesson would start with awarm up activity.

(03:16):
So for kindergarten it would besomething like collecting
objects around the house andputting them into groups of five
, for example.
And so for grade three it wouldbe maybe practicing your two
times tables or memory work,like what is the name of the top

(03:38):
number and the bottom number ofa fraction, and then from there
it goes into a lesson.
Kindergarten is obviously morebasic.
It's focusing on quantityrecognition.
So if you were to roll a dice,your child would know what the
number is.
They would know it's a fiveinstead of counting the dots.
Gotcha and yeah.

(04:00):
And then there's a single workpage for each lesson in
kindergarten where your childwould write a number that
they're learning about that day.
Trace it and write it, and thenthere would be some matchups as
well.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Okay.
So that kind of leads us nicelyinto what do they cover at each
level.
So the math with confidence.
At the kindergarten level,what's the bird's eye view of
what they would be learning thatyear?
You mentioned, obviously, thesight recognition of the number,
not having to count but torecognize that that's five dots

(04:37):
on the dice.
What other stuff are theylearning that year?

Speaker 2 (04:41):
So in kindergarten they would be learning your
numbers 1 to 10, and then 10 to20, and then numbers all the way
up to 100.
They would be doing shapes,directions, patterns, um,
comparing numbers to the number10, adding and subtracting at a
very basic level, and thenmeasurements as well, and grade

(05:06):
three.
It would cover multiplication,fractions, division, geometry,
length, weight and capacity.
So it sounds like a lot and itis, but it's not like you finish
for grade three, for example,you wouldn't finish
multiplication and then neverlook at it again for the rest of
the year.
So the idea with thiscurriculum is to master the

(05:31):
skill to lead to proficiency,and they use a spiral approach
for learning, which means thatyou're periodically going to
revisit the topic again andagain to create that mastery in
your mind.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yeah, I like that.
I've heard I've had people onmy podcast that do actually
wrote a curriculum.
This one woman wrote a historycurriculum like that that
spirals.
So you're coming back to itevery three years and each time
you're delving deeper into it.
So you're coming back to itevery three years and each time
you're delving deeper into it.
So I love that idea of thespiraling because you learn it

(06:07):
once, you forget it.
So it makes so much sense.
Yes, okay.
So you talked a little bitabout the day-to-day.
What a lesson would look likewith the going around the house
to get five objects.
How long does each lesson takeabout?

Speaker 2 (06:23):
So for kindergarten it's really like 10 minutes.
It's super short.
You know you're dealing withfive-year-olds so they have
short attention spans, so about10 minutes.
Grade three would take about 20to 30 minutes depending on how
quick your child picks it up.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Okay.
Yeah, that's good, though,because that's still not.
I mean, you think they're inthe classroom for six plus hours
, so it's like, okay, you getthat done in 30 minutes even.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, in grade three or in third grade, each lesson
is about three workbook pages,and so the first page is always
parent-led.
So you would be sitting downtogether and looking at the new
problem, the new concept thatyou're learning in that lesson,

(07:17):
and then from there there'susually a game that involves a
deck of cards, for example, andyou would be doing, let's say,
you're learning the five timestables and each card that you
pull, you would be multiplyingthat by five and then there's
like a little game board on theworksheet.
From there there's the next.

(07:38):
Two pages are for independentwork, so they are fairly
self-explanatory and they'revisually appealing.
But what I usually do isquickly go over what's needed in
each section and then I leavemy son to do it on his own and
then, when he's finished, I takea look at it, see how it looks

(08:02):
and if he understands it and ifanything needs to be corrected.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Okay, yeah, that that sounds awesome, very
straightforward.
Um, it's very straightforward.
So how many lessons is there inthe curriculum itself?
Does it cover an entire year?

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, so kindergarten is, they're broken down.
Kindergarten and grade threeare very different in the way
they're broken down.
Kindergarten has everythinginto weeks, so it has week one,
week two, all the way up to 32.
And there's about 10 unitswithin the 32 week break.

(08:38):
So you'd be doing maybe five,four to five lessons a week.
Grade three there are 16 unitsand there are nine lessons in
each unit.
So if you were to do fourlessons a week, let's say you

(08:58):
would finish it in 36 weeks, soyou could take as long or as
short as you wanted.
If you homeschool all yearround, you can stretch it out,
and if you want to follow theschool year, then you just
rearrange your schedule so thatit works that way.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
And do you remember how much this curriculum cost
when you purchased it?

Speaker 2 (09:20):
So I'm also in Canada , so everything, everything is
more expensive up here.
You guys probably get waybetter deals, Sometimes actually
buying from some of the USsites.
Even with the exchange weactually get it cheaper.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
And we're over here complaining about prices.
It's.
It was not super expensive inmy opinion.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
I would think it was probably between probably under
a hundred dollars or so and dothey give you the option to do
like a download and printyourself, or is it just buy the?

Speaker 2 (09:56):
workbooks as you buy the.
You buy the textbook and youbuy the workbook.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Okay are you able to use it on multiple children,
like could you use the thirdgrade one on your kindergartner
when they are at that level?
You could.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
If your child is writing in the workbook, you
can't reuse it.
But if you have a lot ofprinters nowadays have a
photocopier, so you could youknow if you were thinking ahead
photocopy everything and thenthat way you don't need to
purchase it.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Okay, all right Now.
Does your children enjoy doingthe math with confidence?
Have you used any other mathcurriculums that you know you
can compare it to?

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Yeah, curriculums that you know you can compare it
to.
Yeah, um, so with my oldestbefore math, with confidence we
were doing Singapore math andthat was pretty, it was okay it.
I found it wasn't necessarilyvery much open and go and it was
the basic concepts for him werevery easy to grasp, so it was

(11:03):
never really difficult, whichsort of just made it, I guess
you know, easy in that sense.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah, You're just going.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
when we were getting yeah, going through the motions.
And then I was thinking aboutgrade three and knowing that in
Canada, at least where I am,that's when multiplication is
typically introduced, at leastwhere I am that's when
multiplication is typicallyintroduced and I thought about
me learning multiplication and Ihad difficulty when I was in
school and I was like how, howam I going to teach this?

(11:33):
And that made me do a littleresearch and I found some
information on math ofconfidence.
I've heard about it throughfriends.
I looked it up and I I saw areview on the grade three
curriculum specifically and Ireally love the way it was laid
out.
And so we just decided, sincewe're doing grade three, well, I

(11:58):
might as well pick up thekindergarten one as well and use
that with my little guy.
Well, I might as well pick upthe kindergarten one as well and
use that with my little guy Ifmy kids like it.
My eight-year-old, my oldestone he would probably rather
play Lego, but overall, becausethe lessons aren't too long,

(12:22):
he's okay with it.
My kindergartner if I approacheverything as a game, he is more
willing to jump in.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Tracing a number over and over is not something he
would love to do.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
I've heard that there's a game schooling thing
that people are doing now wherethey're just educating through
games, and I'm dying to getpeople on the podcast that are
doing that because apparentlyit's a thing and it's blowing up
.
But it makes a lot of sensebecause my son, five years old,
obsessed with games like, wantsto play Candyland and Monopoly

(13:00):
all day long.
I'm like I don't want to.
He's all upset because the.
Candyland cards are missing, sowe have to go search for those
after this.
But yeah, that makes a lot ofsense that if we make it a game,
it can be fun.
Now, are there any games within?
I think you did mention that atthe third grade.

(13:20):
Are there games within the mathlesson?
I think you did mention that atthe third grade.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Are there games like within the math lesson?
Yes, there are.
It's something that the parentwould need to participate in and
slightly prep for.
Like you would need to knowthat you need a deck of cards or

(13:47):
a couple of like little likemarkers or something along those
lines to play the game.
Okay, they're not mandatory.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Um, you could skip them if you wanted to.
And is this a religiouscurriculum or secular, secular,
okay and um?
Do they have like tests in them, reviews, that sort of thing,
or is it just kind of laid out?

Speaker 2 (14:01):
so in grade three at the end of each unit there's a
review, okay, and it says it'soptional.
I guess it really depends onthe parents.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Some parents I find are very for testing and some
are not really.
Yeah, and some.
You probably need it for yourreporting and this and that.
So would you use thiscurriculum again?
Yes, yes, I'll be buying thefourth grade.
Okay, anything that you didn'tlike about it?

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Overall, I'd say I've been very happy with it and
there hasn't really beenanything that I don't like about
it.
It's laid out logically andit's very easy to follow.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Okay, nice, awesome.
Well, thank you so much fortalking with us today about math
with confidence for the.
This is for the kindergartenlevel and the grade three level.
Thank you, I hope you enjoyedthis episode.
Thank you so much for listening.
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(15:08):
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