Balancing Passions: Amanda Hatfield on Fitness, Felines, and Transitioning Careers

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Speaker 2 (00:00):
Two microphones and make the phone call gas, two
microphones and you make thephone call.
Gas.
Hi, this is Joyce.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
And this is.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Marybeth, welcome to the Modern Yoga podcast.
Today's guest has more yogaclothes than anyone else I know.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
And looks cuter in them.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Amanda Hatfield.
Welcome to the podcast.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Hi everyone.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Amanda is one of our teachers.
It's funny to call you a newerteacher because you have so much
experience in the fitness world, but you're fairly new to yoga
teaching and she has well.
The podcast audience can't seethis, but Amanda has a few cats.
We'll talk about that in amoment.
One of them is has joined.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
Wagging, wagging the tail in her face, so cute.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
So let's start with the cat.
How many cats do you have?
Are you a crazy cat lady?
You?

Speaker 1 (01:20):
know I didn't ask for that it's.
I don't know how it all.
I know how it all happens.
But yeah, I have 11.
Right now.
I have one outside that'strying to get in and I'm trying
to keep him there.
I bought him a house.
He has a little feral housewith some straw in it.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
A condo with a pool and a hot tub.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
I wish.
Yeah, now he just got the basicnecessities.
The problem is I also have apossum that comes, a raccoon
that comes and a field mouse.
So, and a skunk on occasion.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
That's the problem I had last winter or two.
I was leaving a warmed houseout and some food and the big
fat raccoons and stuff keptcoming instead.
So I had to put it away todissuade them and I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
And I love them all about.
Maybe I need to put threehouses out.
If I need to get three, andthey'll know which ones theirs,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
I don't know if they're good neighbors to each
other, though.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Well, actually I have video of it.
I put a camera out because Ineed to know what's going on
back there.
So I had last night the kittenwas it eating?
And then the possum came up andthey just switched, you know,
the cat left and the possum tookover, so I just have to keep
refilling bowls, that's all.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
What's preventing you from bringing the kitten in,
Because I have 11.
Like word got out somehow.
Someone was like she has a mannamed Joe.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
That is not a cat lover right, Except for the cats
, he's like my husband.
He pretends he doesn't, hedoesn't love them, but then you
catch them doing the baby.
Talk to the animals face.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
The newest one he sleeps with.
It's in his room.
He moved it to his, Because ithas to, that one has to be
separated.
He has a feline leukemia whichis not you can't fix that.
It's something they have forlife and sometimes it can like
go in.
It's kind of like adult, like ahuman HIV, it's kind of like
that so he could I forget whatit's called.

(03:15):
It's kind of like in remissionkind of, but he still has it.
But he can pass it on to theother cat.
So we're keeping him separateduntil I'm going to test him
again when he's about a year oldand see where we're at.
If he tests negative, then hecan come around.
But the only way he couldtransfer it then is up, I think,
a deep or no through bloodtransfusion.
That's the only way he couldtransfer it.
So obviously we're not doingthat.

(03:36):
So we'll see.
But right now he has to be in aroom by himself and it's kind
of sad but he's super cute.
But yeah, he's another oneShowed up in my backyard about,
I think, july or so Do you thinkpeople bring kittens to your
backyard because they know?

Speaker 3 (03:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
No, he was hanging around the neighborhood because
our Facebook page was postingpictures of him and, you know,
amateurs were trying to catchhim.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
And you're like move over, I've got this.
This cat is hilarious.
You said his name is Cooper,cooper, yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, I have just a snowstorm of cat here everywhere
right now, because he I have tomassage him or he'll get on the
keys and shut us all down.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Is he your computer cat?
Yes, definitely.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Do you have?
As I said to the kids, what wasthat?
As I said to the kids thisweekend, it's better to have
animals and kids than nicefurniture.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
So that's that.
Well, you can't have both rightRight.
Yeah, so anytime I'm sittingdown which isn't very often,
this one he knows it's time he'sgot to jump up there before I
move again.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
So he's like oh, she's sitting, she must want to
pet me.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah, you're not a sit or down, or you're a doer.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, unfortunately.
I wish I was a sit or down, orsometimes I'll be a sit or down
or for you All right.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
So tell us about.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
There's a song by my you know, my favorite songwriter
, laurie McKenna.
There's a song called A MotherNever Rest, and the one line in
it that really brings such animage to me for people like you
are she never sits for a minute,she's a hummingbird in the
living room, right, you're like,always buzzing around whatever
you're doing, or cleaning orfixing or making.

(05:30):
I like that analogy.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, you know what's funny I was thinking usually
people who you describe that waynot you specifically, but that
are, you know, just in generalare like busy bodies in a way of
like being all up ineverybody's business, kind of
like doing things, to knowwhat's going on, and I feel like
Amanda's, just you're not likethe opposite.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
I don't have time for that.
Right, I have 12 litter boxesand a few that pee where they
want, so I have to stay on topof that, but yet I don't have
time for other people's business.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
So one thing that cracks me up about you, or did
when I learned what was going on, is like we'll and we'll talk
about all this, but Amanda andher husband yeah we just we're
not married, we just call eachother.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
That I mean what else are we going to do at this
point?

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Well, they oh wait till you're like 80 and you just
still say a boyfriend andgirlfriend.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Oh, I just felt like I'm too old to hear that.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
No and really does a wife and husband just really
mean partner, right Like, rightLike?
Animal husbandry is aboutpartnering and well, perhaps
procreation, but that's anotherstory.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
So it goes way deeper than just partner.
So when you're good at partner,then you're really partner.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, oh, joyce and James know that so she, they own
gyms and you've been in thefitness industry for a long time
, and wrecking my powerhousehoodie right now.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Oh, look at that.
Oh nice.
Oh, I have my yoga t-shirt onmy modern yoga.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
So when I know you teach, you teach hot power in
Brexville on Wednesdays at 930,but prior to a switching Monday,
wednesday, friday hot power youwere teaching hot power basics
on Thursdays in Brexville andevery time Amanda's there.
Like the studio is so clean andorganized.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
I know.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
I was like you don't have to do that.
And Amanda's like, oh no, thisis like my quiet time, like my
meditation time, and I all Ikept thinking is this is like
cleaning someone else's house,when it's really fun, cause like
she's in someone else'sbusiness and like knows what
needs to be done, and I justfeel like, oh, it would probably
be fun for me to go clean hergym or something.
Go clean powerhouse.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Well, I would send you to.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
I would send you to rise before powerhouse.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
We have a lot of teenage boys at powerhouse.
Yeah, you've told me somestories, right.
So on that Amanda and herhusband own Rise Fitness in
Medina and Powerhouse in Bereaand like how did you?
How did you end up owning gyms?

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Well, I, before that, I mean I was a gymnast, so I've
always been in in the, in theindustry, you know, in a way,
and sports and when I shouldn'tsay sports, because I don't
gymnastics is a sport but it'snot a ball sport, so I can't say
that I'm like athleticallyinclined in sports.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
You weren't into touching balls you were just a
gymnast.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Yeah, I didn't do any balls.
I did try some balls, but itdidn't work out for me.
I tried with terrible.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Is this the sound bite this is the sound bite.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
You didn't touch the balls, you were just.
Joe's going to love this partof the podcast.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Oh for sure I was a hairdresser, you know.
I went to Kent State firstsemester, made the gymnastics
team, but my parents weren'treally prepared.
They didn't prepare well for myfuture.
So I ended up having to comehome because I, you know, I
didn't send out everything soonIf I didn't get any money for
school.
So I had to come home and workand I just ended up putting

(09:19):
myself in beauty school.
So I was a hairdresser.
When we decided this business.
I was doing it for a while.
Let me get my keyboard, yeah.
So we, you know I was workingbehind a chair, which is very
exhausting, and I also traveled.
So I worked for a cloche hairproduct where I did.
I was in platform work for themwhere you go to hair shows, you

(09:41):
demonstrate on stage how to dohair cuts and things and go to
salons and, you know, educatethem on the product.
So I was traveling probably twoto three times a month.
It was.
It was kind of a loss.
And then Joe stumbled onto thisopportunity for this gym, that
and Berea that was up for sale,and he's like I think we can do
this.
And so we ended up, we took thedive in and we did it.

(10:02):
We both kept our jobs, whichwas horrific at first.
I mean, I would go in at fiveAM, work till noon and then I
would go back to the salon andwork one to nine.
So yeah, I don't, and I hadkids.
I don't know how I did it.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Oh, my God.
So like what year was this?
How old would your kids havebeen?

Speaker 1 (10:17):
So this was like 2010 when we got the opportunity for
the gym.
Okay, so they were, I mean Imean, I mean Natalie was
starting to drive just that.
She was starting to drive, Ithink, right when we started
making that transition.
So I still had to do some backand forth.
Yeah, cheerleading.

(10:37):
She did cheerleadingcompetitively and for her school
.
So there was three differentpractices, but her school also
had a competitive team and theystayed practice at another gym.
There were like three places.
I was taking her to what's beenabout a three hour period and I
was still coaching.
I was coaching gymnastics andtumbling for the cheerleader one

(10:59):
or two nights a week.
It was like my Friday nightthing I had.
It was the only night that Ihad three.
Yeah.
So then we got that opportunity.
I'm like, well, maybe you knowI can make some changes.
And and I had competed too, Isaid I didn't fit in fitness
competitions too back in 2004.
And I had to stop that becauseI ended up going through divorce
and being single and I justneeded to make money.
So, yeah, so once we were ableto take on this opportunity and

(11:23):
we saw that it was going to belucrative, I was able to quit,
you know, doing the hairbusiness and go fully into the
fitness industry and then I wentback to competing, but the
problem was, I was a lot olderand it was a lot harder.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Well, I'd love to go down that road.
We don't have to go down thereright now.
But before we started, beforewe hit record, I was telling
Joyce I've been surviving onpizza and Halloween candy and
seasonal beer, since I've beengone this last week or so.
But a couple of weeks ago I wasat dinner with a couple of
friends I used to work with andthe same age as I am, and I

(11:59):
actually texted you because wewere having a conversation about
we were all menopausal or postmenopausal, doing the same
amount of exercise we've everdone and really losing muscle
mass.
So I need you to fix me andtell me what I have to lift, how
much, how many times a week, toat least retain or build muscle

(12:22):
.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
So you just want that information, or you're going to
actually do it?
Oh, I'll do it.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
I'll do that.
Yeah, I need to be healthy.
I'm not going to be.
I can't be an old person yetwith no muscle.
That's not going to work.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
And then they don't kill me on this cliche.
But remember you can't outrun abad diet.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Yeah Well, my diet's usually okay when I'm not living
with grandchildren.
And I'm not going to outrunanything.
We know that she didn't askabout running.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
She just asked about you, don't have to run.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Don't worry, I won't.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
Yeah, how do you?
Yeah, I don't really have thelifting experience and I'm not.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
And I'll tell you what I'm not going to do because
of travel Joyce is right onthis note Am I going to do it?
I'm not going to be a daily gymperson, but you had alluded to
me that I could probably surviveon two days if I'm focused, if
I focused.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, if you go to the gym.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
I am so going to wherever you're at.
I want to see Mary Beth workout.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
That would be fun.
We should just start a littlebit.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
I haven't worked out before I was just young, then I
mean, I don't mind working out,I'm just not going to run.
I'm strong I mean I don't mindlifting, but to do the same that
I'm always doing and see thelack of muscle tone, it just
makes me feel really old.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Especially now that I'm doing yoga the way that I am
now.
Before it was like when I could, I didn't really have a good
practice.
It was like, okay, that works,I can jump into that class.
Mary Beth, you know how much Icame and went.
So.
But now that I'm reallypracticing and I love James's
one breath, one movement that heused to make us do that used to
be my cardio and that's what Ido now.

(14:06):
It feels much better thanrunning.
It's better for your joints soI can get my heart rate up just
by doing a flow.
So I don't recommend anybody docardio now.
I recommend yoga because withthat one breath, one movement or
even just getting through aflow, your heart rate goes up.
You don't need to do that andthe breath practice is better
than any breath practice.

(14:26):
You're going to get runningbecause you're going to be
gasping for air, unless you'rereally trying to practice a
breath practice while you'rerunning, which is awful.
I'm trying it.
I'm trying it.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
Is this coming from like?
Okay, you just said you triedit.
Like?
Are you a former runner or wasrunning part of like your
workout plan?
Or do you just because this isvery interesting to me, because
I read a lot about like?
Weightlifting is way moreeffective than running, right as

(14:59):
far as like?

Speaker 3 (15:01):
losing weight.
Effective for what?
Effective for what?
Stamina building muscle.
Losing weight what are youusing the word effective about?

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Well, everything but endurance right.
Or cardiovascular health, Ishould say.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Right right, cardiovascular health, yeah.
So I think you can get yourcardiovascular health from yoga.
I definitely do yeah, I mean,and it's not that running bad or
any of that's bad, it's justespecially, I think, at our age,
running, I think, feelsterrible.
You know, ellipticals are alittle bit better, like you feel
, but when you're doingsomething for a long, for a long

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time, that same movement, it'sreally hard on your joints.
That's why I love yoga, becauseyou're moving from different
points of your body, you're notdoing the same movement over and
over again.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah, different planes, as they say.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah, different body.
You're using your chaturanga,your upper body, your warrior
ones, your lower body.
So I just I feel like you'regetting good movement where, if
you're doing the same motionlike I have a lady who always
got on the elliptical every dayfor 45 minutes to an hour.
She'd watched I don't know whatshe watched on her phone, so
you're not really getting a goodlike.
I don't know where her heartrate was, but I mean you're not,

(16:13):
you're not really focusing orpresent for your workout, and
then your joints are just takinga brutal beating while you're
doing it, so I mean there'snothing wrong with running.
If you enjoy running and I usedto run Hinkley, I would do what
is it the inner loop?
I think what is that?
Two and a half miles orsomething.

(16:34):
I used to do it three times,you know, and I enjoyed that.
I no longer do.
Well, I'm phasing out of that.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
And doing something not on a machine is is just
overall better.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Oh, I agree, yes, yes , for sure, but so to build
muscle to build arm or legstrength, they're going to need
to lift something and use amachine for the lower body
anyway, right?

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Or you know dumbbells .
Dumbbells are great, you don'thave to be on a machine.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
For less, though squats.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Squats.
You can squat with dumbbells.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
You don't get like that you can marry Beth's face.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
We, we have the best leg press at Powerhouse in the
world.
I swear I love this leg press.
But yeah, you know, if you likepress with this leg press
machine, you don't need to squat.
It puts you in a really goodposition so you can't really
have bad form.
So not everybody can squat.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Well, that's what I was just going to say.
I'd like to try the leg pressbecause I do have bad knees, so
squatting in good form gets hardfor me fast and then my and
then form suffers becausebecause of my knees.
So I'd like to try the legpress where I can see my form.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Is that the machine you were telling me about?
That?
You're almost in a cage.
No, this.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
I was going to tell you that next.
So we have a machine called theRoger Squats Pro.
It's a pendulum squat machineand it puts your body.
It's really hard to explain,you'd have to do it, but it puts
your body in the right positionand what's good about it and
it's kind of.
It's not the same as a Smith,because there's more movement
with it.
A Smith machine I don't thinkis great for squatting, unless
you put your feet way out infront and you're leaning into

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the bar.
Then that might feel a littlebit different.
But I I hardly use the Smithmachine just because you are
locked into one position and youcan't move, and I don't.
I don't like that.
But yeah, the Roger Squats Promachine is awesome, it's I don't
even squat with a bar anymore.
If I squat, that's where I go tosquat.
I just looked it up.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
I'm looking at it.
It's pretty interesting.
Yeah, it looks like atransformer.
Yeah, it does.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Yeah, it does, it does.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
I don't even know how to describe it, aside from
looking like a transformer, butthe like a.
You're not, there's a it.
It kind of wraps around your Imean not your neck.
It's almost like you have a.
Does it look like a sex room?
No, Well.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Remember the corkscrew.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Remember how the corkscrew would fit around like
your neck?
Yes, it feels like that, ohcool.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
So what do you add on your neck with a?
It looks like a shorter barbellmaybe, but but it goes to the
apparatus.
It does it.
You're not holding onto it.
So, it looks like your arms,your hands hold onto like
handles so that you can squat upand down with just the the
connection on your back, whichmakes a lot of sense, right.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
And if you remember, I remember squatting with a
barbell, when you put it on theback of your neck it's at the
top of your spine and the I mean.
There was a time where I wastrying to lift heavier and I
think it was at 225 or somethingand I put the bar on my back
and I went to lift it off and Ijust felt my spine just
compressed.
I'm like nope, and you don'tfeel any of that, no matter how

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much weight you put on thismachine, you never will feel
that and it's just the way thepad sits and the pad doesn't.
It's not like a stationary, sothe pad kind of moves with your
body.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
And as you squat back .

Speaker 1 (20:01):
it kind of rolls back a little bit, kind of hugs you
a little bit, so it definitelyfeels a lot better.
What's?

Speaker 3 (20:07):
the other machine.
That's great, like technologyis improving and keeping up so
we can do these things morehealthfully.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Right, well and honestly for and this is, I'm
not as like I can't talk aboutthis stuff like Amanda does, but
I have been going to the gymfor a few years now and with the
form that I see in a lot ofpeople and not really knowing,
you know, I know yoga form, so Ihave a grasp.

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I can't say that I'm an experton fitness form, but I think I
have a pretty good idea and whatI see around the gym is pretty.
It's just not good.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
So I feel like a machine like this keeps people
would have the ability to keeppeople safer than than a barbell
, yeah, I mean, especially asyou get fatigued, like you start
off in good form, and as youget fatigued if there's nobody
there with you, like it juststarts to fall apart and
compensate.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
So what's the other one called?

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Amanda, okay, I wish I inverted leg press and I don't
know the name of the brandbecause it's so old, but it's
our favorite, oh it might be.
I see an eye carrying in whichprobably is not in business
anymore.
That's interesting, or I don'tthink they are.
Yeah, if you put, and you canput your feet in different

(21:31):
positions.
So if your feet are high andout a little bit, you'll feel it
more in your glutes.
If you bring your feet lowerand close together, you're going
to feel it more in your quads.
And if you do have weak knees Ilike to do that with my clients
that do have knee problemsbecause you go a little bit
lighter and you just focus onthose muscles all wrapped around
your knees.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
How often do you work out these days?
I mean, you're clearly stillworking out.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
I'm not going to be setting a very good example by
talking about it right now, whenI can.
Actually, one of my clients hasturned into a training partner
because they're doing a littlebit of bartering here with some
meds, boss stuff, so probably atleast three times a week.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
And how do you determine what you're going to
do?

Speaker 1 (22:17):
I do it.
When I do a three splittraining program I usually do
like an upper body push, whichwould be anything pushing with
everybody than upper body pulland then just lower body.
That's kind of how I split thatup.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
So when yoga, we do a lot of the push and we don't
have the opportunity for a lotof the pull Right.
So that's something for sure tosupplement If all you're doing
is yoga.
Anybody out there?
A lot of pushy, pushy.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
All your pull can kind of be.
So I do this a lot in cobra tooso like floating your hands and
pulling your using your youknow your upper back.
That way Any of your back bends.
I mean you should be using yourback muscles for that.
So it's kind of a pull we don'tget any bicep curls, Except for
today we get bicep curls.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
How did you do bicep curls?
Oh, just in a warrior too.

Speaker 1 (23:09):
I just had him turn their palms up and kind of still
this from James, or he does alittle push and pull.
I did it in warrior too.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Really squeeze them.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
You can squeeze that muscle and use it and then take
blocks, pull yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
It'd be good if they were lead blocks.
Then we'd get our lifting in.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Right, well, I, I were doing yoga.
We lifted, though, so I try tokeep it yoga.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Right, Right.
But so to pull weight is otherthan back bends.
It's hard to pull with muchweight and yoga.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
So when did you add the second gym to your portfolio
of things to do?

Speaker 1 (23:49):
2019.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yeah, oh, wow.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Looking upon this opportunity.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, it's fairly kind of a newer venture, and
that one it's rise fitness.
And Medina, you have mentionedthat you primarily run that
right, right.
It's on the hand of the gym,joe's always doing the numbers?

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Yeah, I don't.
I don't do well with sittingand doing accounting.
So that's, that's Joe, and hehas control of the money,
because if I had control of it,we would have none.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
We'd have a cat farm Right.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
So do you feel like you are you working seven days a
week?

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Pretty much.
I mean, if I do work Sunday,it's an early light day, so but
yeah, I'm pretty much doingsomething somewhere every day.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
I hear you, I hear you, sister.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
And you were, in addition to having both gyms I
don't know if you still are, ifthis was before yoga teacher
training, but you werevolunteering at the Burby Animal
Shelter.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Right, yeah, I stopped doing that right when we
took over Rise.
It was just too much.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
And I had to stop being subjected to animals
because I just want to bringthem all home.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
So I can't.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, I had to pull away.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Yeah, I understand that.
I get that, I do.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
I just never feel like they.
I want them to have the besthome and I don't know, I don't
know if this person's going tobe the best home.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Or as they wait, and they're in those cages and you
just want to spread them allfree.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
I mean, I will say, though their new location, they
did the Lennie Shelter.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
Yes, oh my gosh, yeah , much nicer, it is a lot better
.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
I mean, I haven't been there lately, but I was
there for, like, the opening fora little while after, and they
do have more room.
So, like any cats that can kindof get along, they'll stick
them in a room together sothey're not stuck in a cage.
They do their best, they reallydo.
There's not only so much.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
There's so many cats and not enough people to take
them, so yeah, so you, I learneda lot just volunteering at the
cat shelter.
Aside from you know helping thecats, you're taking care of
them and doing what they can.
But there's some life lessonsthere.
For example, the cat cages,when I was there, had either a
pink or a blue card on them,right, whether it was a male or

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female.
At least twice during the timeI was there there were cats with
either both or gender organs,which is just to say that nature

(26:30):
, animals, humans, not everybodyis fully female or fully male,
right, like, if it can happen,if we don't know what color,
hard to put it on the cat cage,because both sex organs are
present.
And here's a plug for thatreally good fiction book by
Jeffrey Eugenides called MiddleSex.
Anyway, it was just a lessonabout nature and how there is a

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spectrum to some things.
And then the other thing isthere was the cutest little cat
named Simon, and he was terriblebecause he came in after having
been in a fight with who knowswhat kind of animal.
So he was injured in his oneeye and so he was just
unapproachable, horrifying.
They tried to help him, triedto help him, tried to socialize

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him.
What they finally did was theyremoved his eye and sewed his
eye shut and he was the best catafter that.
Like he was in pain andconfused and scared and once
they just sewed up that eye, hewas in control again and he was
good.
And he's the one that, like, ifI was going to bring one home

(27:39):
that I wasn't allowed to, it wasgoing to be him, but somebody
else did adopt him eventually.
But yeah, so that's anotherthing to learn.
Like, sometimes you try andwork around things or fix things
that you should just let go of.
In his case, it was his eyeball.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Yeah, then come across any of that.
That's interesting.
The paradox I came across ofwhich was they have that extra
thumb and makes their paws lookreally big, so that's always
kind of interesting.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
And then they have like a mitt yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
So, like orange cats that are usually male, if
they're female they could besterile.
Things like that I learned.
And just to learn how toapproach cats like we always
think.
You know, we always get thathigh voice and screaming and
coming at them all handy.
They don't necessarily likethat.
I've also learned like, if youwant, if you have a scared
animal, any kind of animalactually if you make yourself

(28:35):
small, like you turn sideways,you crouch down, they'll the
more likely come to you.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
And let them approach you.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, even the petting farms.
I've done that.
My friend was so jealous, likewhy do they all come to you?
I'm like, I'm telling you.
Yeah, because I'm sitting herecalmly and letting them come to
me.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
You come and sniff me , you come and see me, yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
I'm allergic to cats, but I don't think.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
I am anymore.
Well, you think your body canchange.
I was.
I didn't have a cat for a longtime, and then every time I go
to West Virginia to come homewith a cat.
I don't know how that happens,but I went back home to visit my
family and the house next doorto my cousin was burnt down and
there was a cat living in it.
My daughter cried to bring ithome and I'm like well, let's
see if it's there when we leave,she's coming with us.

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So sure enough she was.
So we brought her home and Idon't know where I was going.
But that is lost my train ofthought.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
I said I'm allergic to cats.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Oh, yeah, so five and a half hour drive home.
I was a mess, but then it tookabout two weeks and then, yeah,
I was fine Sometimes your bodyhas to.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
I.
So I developed or my allergiesstarted started showing
themselves like, I guess, atabout 14.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
And I just started lots of good things show
themselves at 14.
Right.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Started having these like episodes when we would go
visit my aunt and uncle inBrunswick and at the time they
lived off of carpenter and likethey were on the second house
from the corner and there justwasn't.
There weren't a whole lot ofhouses built now Now it's

(30:16):
completely filled with housesbut so it was like woodsy and I
would just get really sick.
And one time my mom took me tolike an urgent care and they
tested me for strep.
Why they tested me for strep, Ihave no idea, but I tested
positive, which was also weirdbecause I didn't even have a
sore throat.

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But somehow this turned intolike you should look into
allergies.
And I went, my mom took me toan allergist and they did that
scratch test thing on my backand sure enough, I was like
really, really allergic tothings like mold and pollen and

(30:58):
cats and shellfish and I hadnever had shellfish before.
And I learned later, becauseI've had several of these tests
done over the years, that it'svery unusual for a doctor to
test for something like thatthat you haven't had a problem
with.
Like it wasn't like.

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I went to a had shellfish andhad a reaction.
But anyhow, I, my family, myparents, never really ate
shellfish like they, or at leastI didn't have it at home, so I
never really had it and so I'venever actually to this day, I've
never had shellfish, but anyhowI would.

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Several people in my familyaunts and uncles and whatever
had cats and it just got to apoint where I could walk into a
house and immediately you have anew cat and I immediately get
my eyes would swell up and Iwould need my inhaler.
And I had a bag like you knowthose those purple velvet, black

(32:01):
velvet bags.
Yeah, I had one of those.
I don't even know where I got itfrom but it was filled with
allergy stuff like a whole bunchof inhalers.
Like this inhaler was a rescueinhaler.
This inhaler I was supposed totake before I went somewhere
that had a cat.
You know all those things likeI had probably three or four
different inhalers.
I was always on Claritin orAllegra, especially before I

(32:25):
would go somewhere that that hadcats or whatever.
But I couldn't even handle itbeing medicated Like it was.
That maybe got me an hour atbest.
Yeah, and.
I'd have to leave so fastforward.
You know, james, and I havebeen vegan, vegetarian for the
most part, for probably the lastfive or six years and a few

(32:48):
years.
In I was running and in Apriland there was pollen.
Maybe it was May, pollen wasflying everywhere and I wasn't
even really itching and that waslike such a huge change for me
and I was like how is this evenpossible?

Speaker 1 (33:02):
And.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
I agree with you, Amanda, like your body can
change, but this change happensso quickly that you know, the
only, the only big differencewas that I wasn't eating animal
products and honestly I thinkthat that is more dairy than
anything else because it's suchan inflammatory and so dairy is

(33:24):
and.
But I can be.
I can be in the house with cats, I can pet cats, I just need to
wash my hands.
But I have not.
I'm not at like, I don't feellike I'm at risk for having any
of those kind of a lot of peopleare allergic to cats and they
say it's the dander even morethan hair.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
But that's why, if you're, if you're experiencing
any kind of allergies, even ifthey seem unrelated, it is worth
the time to eliminate stuff,whether it's meat or dairy or
gluten or alcohol, like trydifferent things, because it's
so true you can really find thatthings different, things like
your joints feel better or yourcongestion or whatever that you

(34:05):
thought had nothing to do withanything.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
I don't even know where my rescue inhaler is at
this point.
Like I know I have onesomewhere, but like it used to
be where I could not leave thehouse without it, because I
would be.
you know there were times when Iwas younger that I'd have to go
to the hospital and they wouldgive me a treatment and shoot me
up with adrenaline and allthose things Like it's awful to
suffer.
I have exercise induced asthmaand allergy induced asthma.

(34:33):
I don't know what.
I'm probably not saying thismedically correctly, but so if I
have, obviously if I have anasthma attack, it's bad.
I haven't had one in a longtime.
The only time I ever had it andit was mild with exercise was
there were a few times in themiddle of the winter where I

(34:54):
would be skating and the air wasso cold but my body was hot.
Actually I'd have that runningtoo, like I can't.
I don't know about now, but Ican't run in the winter because
you know I would layer, notlayer up, but I'd put like under
armor, like the real heavy duty, like cold weather stuff, and
then I'd start running and I getso my body would get so hot

(35:17):
that it would be hard for me tobreathe the cold air and it was
just bad.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
So don't let your guard down.
You should know where yourrescue inhaler is.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
I'll find it.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Well, I think you need to find it.
I'm going to go, I'll go get itright now.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
You can, is it, is it ?

Speaker 3 (35:32):
time to talk about Amanda.
Is also plant based dietCorrect?
I think that's we should talkabout that, because we have at
least had one, at least had oneother friend of ours who does
weight training.
She did not want to say on thepodcast that she had begun
eating meat again, but she washaving trouble with recovery

(35:54):
from lifting.
So I'd love to hear you speakto that, because you have a long
history now of muscle buildingwithout animal protein.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, honestly, I don't feel any different from my
recovery.
I am what's like.
I recover faster.
I don't miss anything.
I don't feel weak.
I you know my, when I do lift,I can still lift as heavy as I
did before.
I mean, I'm not, I'm notlifting like I did before
because I don't, I don't need to.

(36:24):
But yeah, if I wanted to, Icould definitely go in and I can
still out lift.
We have a competition and I'mvery I guess I'm very
competitive.
I probably shouldn't be, but Iam and I don't care what it
takes.
I will try to be the winner.
No, matter what I mean.
I can still pull that off andI'm going to be 53 November 6th,

(36:45):
so I'm still pretty good whereI'm at and I yeah, I don't feel
like I have a hard timerecovering, other than being 53.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Right, yeah, word, that's.
That's my question.
So what do you?
What's your favorite protein?

Speaker 1 (37:00):
So I do a lot of tofu .
What's my say that's wrong onthe?
Why can't think of it right now?
I always sit siphon, siphon.
I'm not sure people pronouncethat's S?
E I T?
A N.
Yes, yes, so it's also thatthat is weak gluten.
So if you have a gluten allergy, definitely can't do that.
I also P proteins probably thecleanest protein and I have that

(37:26):
.
My protein powder is P protein.
I don't do a lot of mock meatlike the beyond and possible
once in a while, if I have ataste for it, I'll do it beyond
meat.
I feel like it's a littlebetter protein because it is P
protein and they fortify it withB vitamins too.
But yeah, it's not.
I don't know if it's veryhealthy to do those a lot, but

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once in a while it's not goingto hurt you.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Yeah, it's still processed food, which is never
the better protein powder.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
You know the, I use sun warrior from Heinen's I get
it from there or first forms,another good one, and they're
both P protein.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Is Joe.
Have you ever tried making likea veggie burger with black
beans, chickpeas, lentils any ofthose things, or you're not a
fan of cooking in that way.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Yeah, I haven't had time, but I, you know, like at
the holidays I'll like trysomething, like I did a beef
Wellington with lentils and Iforget what else is in there,
but you know onions and stufflike that, of course.
But yeah, when I have the timeI will try something cool.
My favorite thing to make isvegan mac and cheese because
it's fairly healthy.
Use your chickpea pasta orwhatever kind of pasta you like,

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and then the cheese is madefrom cashews.
So, there's so bad fats in it.
There's actually not.
It's just the noodles andcashews as your your main
ingredient, and it's deliciouswhen you've warmed over.
It's not great, I'll let youknow that, but the first day you
bake it.
So good, so good.
What's this cat's name?
I was Lou.

(38:52):
He was, um, he actually one ofmy employees called me late when
I her dog had attacked him andhe was in a dog's mouth.
So, I was supposed to take himto the shelter the next day
because the shelter was closed,so I guess I'm the next best
thing.
Well then yeah, he got reallysick and I had to rush him to
the emergency room.
So then I just kept them.
So yeah, he's mine.

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Now he's a stinker, so anotherone make an appearance.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
I feel like every every five minutes we get a new
cat here, maybe maybe Super cat.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Enough, he's down.
This is nap time, so they'reall going to start getting on
the condos and go into sleep.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
So, how how long have you been plant based, and is
Joe plant based too?

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Oh, joe is definitely not plant based and would love
for me not to be as well.
He just he's like can youplease just eat an egg?
So he's not.
Um, I was pescetarian before Iturned vegan, so I was just
doing fish and I'm just, I don'tknow, I I well, I watched the
conspiracy and after watchingthat on Netflix, I'm like you

(39:58):
know, I don't really need to eatfish either.
So I took that out.
Um, I, you know, I, that'sprobably one thing I would eat,
though If I didn't have to kill.
I really don't like takingsomething's life to feed myself.
I just that really bothers me.
And I think when it first kindof set in I mean we were in Joe
took lead in Mexico for mybirthday one year and we were at

(40:18):
a resort and there they broughtthe lobster case out and they
wanted me to pick my lobster andI'm like I, I don't want to
choose, you know who's going todie for to feed me.
And I, just at that point I'mthinking you know what, if I
don't feel good about that, thenmaybe I need to look at what
I'm eating.
So I doubt that I mainly did itfor the, you know, for the
animals.
I just can't, I just can't eventhink about it.

(40:40):
I've seen too many videos and I, you know, and I it's my own
fault I follow all the pages onInstagram and I just I can't
give to that industry when I seehow animals are treated in the
dairy industry probably the mostheartbreak game to me.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Yeah, yeah, there there are some measures, there
are some ways and places youknow local and stuff to to do a
better job of that.
But if you've ever seen thetrue factory farming factory how
we get our meat and our dairy,it is really despicable the
treatment of animals whilethey're alive and how we take

(41:16):
them out.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Right and the people that hire that have to do that
kind of work.
They become so desensitized andI feel bad for their like, how
they're feeling.
They can't feel good about itBecause I think if most of us,
if we had to go kill our ownanimal to feed ourselves, how
many of us could do it.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
Right, you know it's interesting.
I had dinner with a friend acouple of weeks ago at her house
and her daughter has a farm andher grandkids everybody lives
there.
I get fresh eggs from themwhich are so delicious and so
they have happy chickens and allbut they.
She was her daughter actuallysurprised her because she, she

(41:52):
went out and and you know theydon't on a farm, view the
animals as their pets and shewas a little surprised, not
unhappy about it, but surprisedthat her daughter did go out and
herself, her daughter herself,who's a grown person, you know
our, our children's age, I guessI don't want to use the word

(42:13):
killed, but it killed, killedthe chicken that they, that they
ate.
So it is like you ask yourself,could I do that?
And for most of us it's no.
For other people it's like ohyeah, no problem.
So there you have it.
Yeah, but are they saying?

Speaker 1 (42:30):
are they saying that, though, or are they really
doing this?
My grandfather had a farmgrowing up when I was in West
Virginia.
He had cows, he had chickens.
We never we never ate thechicken, though, like he, we ate
the eggs, and I definitelywould eat eggs.
I'm not opposed to eating eggsIf, yeah, if I know, if I had my
own chickens in the backyard,yeah, I would go grab those eggs
and eat them, because they'renot getting fertilized.

(42:51):
I'm not.
I don't feel bad about it, butyeah, but a poor chicken stuck
in a factory laying eggs untilit dies is not making and not
even moving, like it's in astall Right.
Sometimes they die.
I've seen pictures of themthere.
They're just like on likeshelves.
It looks like Right.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Take their beaks off.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Yeah, then they just die there.
It's just awful.
So anyway, we won't talk aboutthat anymore.
But my grandfather had a farmand he had cows and every year
he had butcher a cow and feedthe family.
You know, as kids we like, weknow, we knew, we that we were
going to eat the cow, I guess,but I guess we didn't put two in
together.
We'd play with the cows, wewould name them.
I named one Jamie, because Ilike the name Jamie.

(43:29):
I always have a strange but, andI remember my mom was doing the
dishes.
One night I'm upstairs playing.
I was probably about six orseven and I heard her say oh,
don't tell me, andy, we ateJamie tonight.
Oh, awful Like.
Why would you even say that outloud?
My grandfather got to a point,though.
He got to a point where hestopped.

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They became his pet because hewouldn't kill them anymore.
Wow yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
You're from West Virginia, I am.
How did you get to Ohio?

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Well, everybody in West Virginia is a coal miner,
basically, or how to set themain income.
So obviously it started to slowdown just a bit and then my
parents just wanted to get outof West Virginia.
So my dad, he was a supervisorin a coal mine.
He put his resume out and weended up in New Mexico for a
little while.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Yeah, it was weird.
It was weird because I was likeeight when we moved Such a
change.
Oh yeah, it was very depressingwhen you're used to big green
mountains and everything greenand trees and water and then you
just New Mexico is like a sandcastle.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
I mean, I was there as a kid and I was like this is
like an attraction at a themepark because all the Adobe, how
different from.
West Virginia wild wonderfulWest Virginia.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
And we left all of our family.
I mean I had the best grandmain the world and she was like my
world.
I loved my grandma.
We had just found out she hadcancer when we left.
So I mean to go that far and toput the desolate dry like
nothing place, like it just camelike nothing to me.
I mean it's cool to visit LikeI've been back to that

(45:15):
Scottsdale, arizona, places likethat and I think what was I at?
Oh, santa Fe.
Santa Fe is a really cool placeLike I love.
I would love to go back andvisit, but I would never live
there.
I just feel I need water.
I don't know, I need to seegreens.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
And West Virginia when it's depressed or not.
It is so beautiful.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
It is, it really is.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
I just drove back through yesterday and it's just
beautiful.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
And my cousin.
She lived well she did live inBeckley and she just moved to
Fayetteville and she lives inthis like mountainous area
that's very, very green and theythere's like million dollar
homes back there and we I lovewhen I go stay with her because
when we just drink our coffee wego for a walk and it's just so
pretty.
But they also bought their.
I don't know if you want tocall it a development or what it

(46:02):
is but they bought 200 acresand that they're not going to
develop, they're just going tojust for them to four wheel hunt
, whatever they want to do.
It's really, really pretty.
I would love that.
Like I think that's what Iwould like to retire to.
It's a big, huge house withlots of animals in the big hills
you could make a whole animalsanctuary.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yeah, so how old were you?
I want to cue the.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
John Denver music now that I'm thinking of beloved
West Virginia and my mountainhome.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
How old were you when you ended up in the Cleveland
area?
Where did you end?

Speaker 1 (46:35):
up.
We ended up right in this area.
So we first I had a greatgrandmother who had moved to
Brooke Park and my dad, my mom,hated it.
We all hated New Mexico.
My dad kind of liked it.
He kind of looked sick and hekind of fit right in and he
really, oh my gosh, we did somecrazy.
My dad's fearless, if you know,if you know anything about the

(46:58):
Hatfields I'm a true descendantof the Hatfields and the Huesos,
wow.
And my dad lived back to thefullest.
He was not afraid of anythingalways and he was very futile.
He wanted to fight all thefacts.
So we went to war as Mexico, asa family, in a car across the
border.
It was the scariest thing I'veever seen in my life.

(47:18):
I don't know how we survived it.
We almost didn't get back, andmy dad's also a jokester.
So we're trying to get acrossthe border and my dad's trying
to act like he's Mexican andthey almost didn't let us
through until I started bawling.
I'm like please, please, let usback.
But yeah, it was insane.
I just it just seemed sochaotic, but yeah, so anyways,
my mom and I were very unhappy.

(47:39):
My grandmother passed while wewere there.
So we were literally drivingback and forth because we didn't
have the money to fly, and myparents were those people.
My dad loved little cars.
Volkswagen was one of our firstcars.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
And we would pack into that and drive for it Like
you're driving for days, yeah,and we would get a 48 hour drive
or something.
And my parents, they would notstop, they would switch off.
We would grab food, get in thecar, go to the bathroom and we
would go.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Yeah, and if you asked them to stop and they
weren't ready, my dad would getso mad.
So we would just me or mybrother would just sit in the
back seat and just pray for thewhole thing Strong bladders.
Right, so we would get.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
No wonder why you don't want to sit at a desk.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Yeah, and I don't want to sit.
I don't want to be in a car, Idon't like it.
But when I the last time I cameback, they had taught me how to
drive.
I was a big ship too.
I was probably nine years old.
I'm driving a car.
That's a hillbilly thing too.
That's what we kind of do, yeah.
So we I took a leg.
My dad's like all right, you'retaking over, keep it under the

(48:39):
speed limit, or keep it right atthe speed limit.
You know, wake us up.
If anything happens, just gostraight.
I'm like okay, wow, yeah, let'ssee how self-sufficient, it all
made you.
Right, Right.
But I was scared to death formy kids to drive.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
I was not a fan of them driving Back then stick
shifts weren't like they are now, so like it was a lot of work
to shift and she's nine yearsold.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
And often the stick shifts didn't have power
steering back then, right yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
I don't remember.
Can you imagine Adelaide orKennedy driving?

Speaker 3 (49:15):
No.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
I can't believe they didn't have a heart attack.
Being in the car with mydaughter when she was learning
to drive, I thought we weregoing to die and she was.
She lasted everything.
She thought everything wasfunny.
We almost hit a parked car.
She was like I know, and she'dstart laughing.
I'm like, oh my God, we aregoing to die here.
But yeah, so my dad put hisresume out again because my mom
was.
She just wanted to come backand we missed family and he

(49:40):
ended up in the salt mines inCleveland.
So that's how we ended up here.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Back to the salt mines, as they say.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Where did you go?
To high school?
North Olmsted, north Olmsted.
So you were right, right in thearea that you're kind of in.
Yeah, yeah, that's awesome, andso I'd like to talk about.
You mentioned this before.
You used to do I don't knowwhat it's called the
competitions.
Is it body or fitness orbodybuilding?

Speaker 1 (50:12):
It's considered fitness.
So you have different divisions.
There's bodybuilding, there'sfigure.
So we were kind of like we didfigure posing.
You have to do like a posing ina two-piece bathing suit.
There's also bikini now, soit's just different types of
posing.
And then with the fitness, wealso had a routine that we had
to do.
So it's basically a gymnasticsfloor routine.

(50:33):
It's kind of what it resembles.
So you have strengthrequirements, it also has to be
up the.
You have to show your enduranceand your cardiovascular fitness
.
It's just basically like agymnastics floor routine.
It can have tumbling, one-armpush-ups.
I mean, I got to the pointwhere I could do one-arm, one
leg.
It just just anything you canthink of to throw in there, and

(50:55):
the judges are not reallyknowledgeable.
So if you can find somethingthat looks really hard, that's
really easy, that expresses themLike you know, that's all you
need to do.
But yeah, but you have to.
You have a body round to whereyou have to have a certain shape
in, you have to have a certainlean-ness.
So you have to you know, dietfor these things and look a
certain way.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
And it's not going to grow.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Well, I started in 2003 and then by 2004 I was
ready.
It took me about oh, it wasabout eight weeks, 12 weeks to
get ready, cause I've neverreally carried a lot of weight.
I just never did, as I'm justtoo busy, I guess.
But yeah, and so I competedthat one whole year and then,
like I said, I got divorced thefollowing year.

(51:40):
So I I had to take a break andjust focus on taking care of my
family and the kids and justworking to make money.
And then when Joe and Istumbled onto that opportunity
to purchase powerhouse, thatkind of opened me back up with,
uh, once I was able to quitdoing you know here and being a
hairdresser and traveling, thenI could focus on our business
and I thought that would helpour business to do that again.

(52:01):
Get you know get promoted.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
And how was it different the second time?
The training for it, thegetting ready.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Well, yeah, it was a lot harder, my body was a lot
different, the tumbling wasexcruciating and then I of
course I hadn't done it in solong like getting back to the
flexibility part of it took alittle bit.
But one thing you know yourbody does remember, even if it's
been 10 years later like yourbody still remembers where you
were and I kind of didn't quitworking out.

(52:28):
But I didn't work out to thatextent and the dieting's really
strict, like and I take, if Isign on to do something, I'm,
I'm diving deep, I don't, Idon't just, you know, take it
halfheartedly.
So I didn't miss a meal, Ididn't miss a cardio and I mean,
the hardest part probably waslike I would have two cardio
sessions a day, to be 45 minutesfasted in the morning and then

(52:50):
you'd have one at night beforeyour last meal, and I was eating
between, depending on where Iwas in the in the prep, I'd be
eating like five to seven mealsa day, like little meals, like
250, 300 calories a sitting.
You don't want to eat all thatat once.
And then I have, like usually atwo hour like routine practice.
So we're talking warm and up,you know, and then running
through your routine to be attwo minutes, a two minute

(53:13):
routine, full out, full blowncardio.
So you had to really prep forthat.
And then you had your weighttraining sessions.
I was doing, you know, fiveweight training sessions a week.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
What do you get for, like when you win?

Speaker 3 (53:26):
you know if you place or whatever is there you get a
belt as nice as the modern yogasoftball championship belt.

Speaker 1 (53:32):
Yeah, it's not as big as that.
I kind of like that belt.
It depends on what competitionyou do like as an amateur, you
get a trophy and then you haveto like you qualify for like a
national.
When you go to nationals, thenyou have the opportunity to
qualify for your pro cards.
So you have to pay for allthese competitions that you

(53:53):
enter.
And then once you're a prothough you don't have to pay
they usually depending on thecompany, like the Arnold Classic
, if you guys have heard of that, in Columbus, but they have one
on every continent, just aboutthe.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Arnold Classic.
I happened to be in Columbus tosee a concert.
I'm going to check the date andmake sure this is still right,
but it was right as COVID wasstarting and I feel like that's
one of the first things theycanceled, because I was staying
at a hotel right across thestreet and they were like
they're canceling this thing andI was like what, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
And it was probably smart because there are so many
people on that convention floor.
It's ridiculous.
Like you can't even, like.
It's like you're fishingthrough bodies, like swimming
through bodies.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
It's terrible, gross Pressing the flesh.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
And then some guys take their shirts off and it's,
you know, you're trying tosqueeze by some guy's belly.
It's just inappropriate.
Bring your hairy belly over here, oh yeah, I don't go to those
anymore.
I've competed in one of themand treated like they treat you
really nice, like the ArnoldClassic was probably my favorite
competition.
They give you a basket of stuffsent to your room.

(55:03):
Your room is paid for.
If you had a travel, they payfor your travel.
You could win money.
So if you, I think what was it?
8,000 for first place.
The guys went a lot more.
The bodybuilders are theyreally pull the fans in, so they
, they win like $250,000.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Oh, my gosh and the girls get 8,000.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Yeah, you know just like the rest of sports in the
world, pay equality Exactly, butthey pull the fans out.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
If there's, the fans come to see the freaks right,
the big bodybuilders that arejust not attainable so that
people want to see that.
But yeah, the fitness isprobably one of the one of the
favorites that people that'sentertaining.
You get to see these reallycool.
You know routines, girlsflipping all over to find
gravity.
So I mean it's, it's anotherfavorite.
I'm like, yeah, it's a, it wasfun, but you know, I wish I was

(55:52):
younger.
When I was in my 30s it felt alot better.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
I mean, it's a hard stage floor.
You might as well just be onconcrete.
I'm pretty sure.
That's why I have the hipissues that I do, I'm pretty
sure.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
So I'm looking at I just Googled bodybuilding
champions and this is crazy.
Is this good for you?

Speaker 1 (56:17):
No, I would assume not.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
I think, fitness.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
No, it depends, and I don't want to get into I send
anybody as far as like what'sthat, I don't know what to call
it anymore, I don't, I don'tdabber in it.
So, like you know, sportsenhancing drugs, like obviously
you know, that's good to seethat.
I think, if you're not, I don't.
I don't know how healthy thatis.
But yeah, fitness, we didn'treally do that.

(56:42):
There are more and more peopleare getting into it Like
divisions that I think don'treally need to.
You know, get into that, butyou're not, you're not going to,
you're not going to affect thesame fan base If you don't have
those competitors.
You're just not right.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
What is it with the tan?
Why does everybody have to gettan to?

Speaker 1 (57:00):
It shows your muscle your definition a lot better.
Oh yeah, put somebody without atan up there.
Sometimes you'll go to a localshow and someone didn't read the
directions or something.
They didn't read the criteriaand they show up pale, and they
look really funny on stage,though.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Yeah, those stage lights.
I mean same reason everybodyhas to wear makeup when they're
an actor on stage.
You just get lost.
You can't see any.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Yeah, I'm watching you out.
What happens when somebodystops doing this?
Look at the cat.
Yeah, like well no, let's say.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
let's say you had an injury and you were not able to
to lift or do cardio, like,let's say that's even you or Joe
, like what would happen to yourbody.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
I mean, you just lose muscle mass yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
Should we put a picture of what's happening to
my body?

Speaker 1 (57:54):
I think you may.
I mean, I haven't noticed this.
I mean I notice that I'm havingchildren.
I lose skin on your belly but,I, haven't noticed anywhere else
in my body and I don't lift anddo all the things that I used
to do.
I would rather not ever do thatagain, so it was just not a fun
time, you know.
I mean, he said they enjoyedthat.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
They're crazy Because it consumes your whole life
right.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Yes, yes, and it's.
You know, it was really hard tobe a mom during that time and I
, you know, I hope that my kidsdidn't feel neglected.
I hope that they did, and Ireally tried to fit it all in
and make the time for them.
Like, I didn't miss wrestlingmatches, I didn't miss
cheerleading competitions, maybeone or two, but usually it was
for work, not really for mycompetition.
I tried to really work aroundthe kids schedule.

(58:39):
Yeah, you definitely have to beself-sufficient.
You always have your food withyou, which when I would go to
these cheerleading competitionsand I'm in prep, I've got to
take all my food.
You can't always heat it up.
You're eating.
You're not eating to eat forfun, you're eating to.
You know your muscle mass.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Yeah, so it's a formula and you have to do it.
So either you are maybe at awrestling match and you have to
pull out what a piece of chickenbreast and some rice.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Tuna and rice and broccoli and everyone's like, oh
, it smells in here.
You know you get that on aplane and I've had to pull out
no cod on a plane and everyone'sdying and I was like, put that
away.
I'm like I can't, I have to eatit.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
Put your cod away.
This is hilarious.
Did your kids like that?
Yeah, these cats are hilarious.
So she has like a tree, like afight guess or whatever, and the
cats are just taking turnsentertaining us.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
And they're doing exactly the same things, like
the orange one is doing what theblack one is doing.
They do a little boxing.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
They get on their hind legs and they do a little
boxing with the leaves.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
It was really good at that.
It was really good on his backleg.
He's really got good balance.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Cats are so amazing to watch.
They are so entertaining.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Do you put a Christmas tree up?

Speaker 1 (59:50):
I did, I bought, I ended up.
I used to what I do every yearI go out, I'm like I say I'm not
going to do it, and then I buya new one, because I ended up
throwing it out eventually,because I probably just get a
real one.
See how good he is at that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
It's very cute, he heard us.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Yeah, he was the worst one last year.
He was in the tree.
He bent all the limbs, knockedoff all the bulbs which I could
care less about the bulb butyeah, the tree had to go in the
garbage.
It looked terrible.
It looked really pretty forabout an hour.
But yeah, maybe I'll do a realtree this year, Cause then it
won't look really more real.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
It'll hurt them if it pokes them a dry yeah don't
burn the house down.
Don't let them burn the housedown.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
incidentally, Where's he going?
Maybe I won't put one.
He's about to launch.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Yeah, they go wherever they want.
I had one in the dishwasheryesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Yeah, load in the dishwasher.
He just climbed in there.
Of course I got a picture, so Ihad that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
So do you find that you and or Joe and everybody
that you know and work with andlove at Rise and Powerhouse, are
ever judged for how you look inthe good way, like here's this
big muscle bound man or here'sthis?
Perfect little cause you'relike a perfectly cute little

(01:01:07):
buckaroo.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
I don't feel that way .

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
I have anybody ever called you a buckaroo before.
I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
No, I've never been called the buckaroo.
I haven't A hummingbird then,Really, I don't even know what
I've been called.
That's interesting.
I haven't even thought aboutthat.
Yeah, you know I should ask Joethat question.
He hears more about what people.
I don't think I stand stilllong enough in the gym for
someone to say anything to me,or or say that, but Joe's very

(01:01:38):
big.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know ifJoe's really big and Joe looks
really heavy.
They see him in action.
So, yeah, yeah, I feel like andhe, you know he is, um,
everybody, you know he's so like, laid back and calm Like he,
you'll see him one day liftinglike you know, bench pressing
500, then you'll see him anotherday taking five pound dumbbells

(01:02:00):
and you know, doing shouldershoulder raises.
So you know that's what's funnyabout Joe is like, and you and
you don't need to lift heavy.
You can find ways to, you know,grow muscle or just put tension
on that muscle without you knowsuper heavy weight.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
So and it's like it's like Joyce and I have talked
about on on the podcast, abouteven yoga poses like at some
point you're striving to dothese, all these biggest, best
fancy things, and then, when youare old enough and have the
confidence, you're like yeah, Idon't need to do that every time
, just for people to see.
You know, joe is so big and um,joe, if you're listening, but

(01:02:39):
Joe's also so small Joe is not atall fella.
So Joe's like a little, a little.
He's like the guy on this, he'slike a Mario brother.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
He's Mario or Luigi yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
And, um, so, somebody that shaped like that, you
that's, that was what myquestion was about.
Is people make assumptions,Like they see you in the grocery
store and they're like, oh,that guy, but Joe is, uh, first
of all, so intelligent and smartmore than you, you know, you

(01:03:15):
have you think these like thesedumb these dumb jocks.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
he really is the opposite, but he's also very
sweet.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, he's like a pussycat.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Yeah, he's the guy that if someone's in front of
him and can't pay for thegrocery, he'll buy the grocery.
Oh listen, I've never run intoJoe over there.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
Listen, I've never run into Joe over at SUDs that
he hasn't picked up the bill.
In fact, two weeks ago mymother-in-law was in town from
Florida.
We were with her sister andbrother-in-law and my husband
and I saw Joe and I said Joe,don't do it, please don't do it.

(01:03:54):
And he does it before you know.
He knows everybody there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
So they don't even the bill is brought yeah Very
generous.
He is, he is, and you knowwe're not rich by any means.
I mean we're not.
Well, I'm struggling, he's not,if we count his money.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
I'm always broke.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
But I'll still buy a pair of leggings.
No matter how broke I am, Iwill find a way to buy them.
Yeah, Sometimes when.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
I'm unpackaging things, I'm like, oh, I
shouldn't even hang these up,let's put this aside for.
Amanda.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Put all the smalls aside.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
And he calls you Mandy.
Do you like to be Mandy orAmanda?
I've been.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
Mandy, for a long time I used to hate Amanda, but
now I do.
I do like Amanda, but I don't.
It doesn't.
I guess I'll answer to anything.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Oh man, I never knew that you'd like to be called
Mandy we could have called youMandy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Amanda thinks that we're growing up in professional
, and when I was younger, Ididn't want to be growing up in
professional, you know.
But, actually not in troubleand first grade for writing
Mandy on my paper.
I had a teacher who wasstickler for your name.
I guess I don't know what herproblem was, but she wanted to.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
I ended up Mary Beth and my family, I was Mary.
And then teachers are like no,you have to be your full name.
So and now?
I really don't like Mary, Iwant, I'd rather be MB or I like
.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Mary Is your middle name Beth.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
No, my first name is Mary Beth, but two words and I
have no middle name.
And I asked my mother toexplain this and she's like I
don't know.
I don't really remember it wasgoing to be Marie Marie or Mary
Beth, but it's not.
I was like, was it inspired byanything?
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Okay, my middle name is Kay, after my aunt who I look
mostly like, actually, ah,amanda.
So we didn't know that right,when I was born, we didn't know
we were.
I was going to look like a bird, so strange.

Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Did Mary Beth do your sisters have middle names?

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
Yes, judith Ann, judy Ann and Colleen Marie.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
Well, maybe, maybe it was your middle name and she
just forgot yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
If she can't she doesn't remember anything else,
but I'm Mary Beth.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
And am I no middle initial Harold Bernie, harold
Harold.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Is Jeff's Fancy.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
Also, Jeff is actually Michael Jeffery, so you
know when we fly it's always ahassle because a lot of systems
don't accommodate it.
The two first names or he goesby Jeff, so he can't be Jeff.
His driver's license, I think,says M Jeffrey.
His passport says MichaelJeffery.
We're a nightmare.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
Oh, wow.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
A lot of names.
When you got married, did youhave to take?
Did you have to say I take you?
Michael Jeffery, I didn't evenmade up our own, our own.

Speaker 3 (01:06:44):
I don't even know who I'm marrying.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
I've never called you , michael, I don't know, and I
don't care, you just got to paymy bills.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
So, amanda, you graduated from teacher training
earlier this year in January.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Oh yeah, amanda's a teacher and this she's in the
teacher spotlight.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
So I would do in this whole thing.
And here we are.
How has your teaching journeybeen Like?

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
have you?
I know the answer to this.
I know that you've been lovingteaching yoga, but how is?
How is yoga?
I feel like when you weretraining, when you were in the
middle of the year, like whenyou were training, when you were
in teacher training, thephysical stuff was was pretty
easy to train you on because youhave so much experience with,

(01:07:30):
you know, physical fitness.
But it was cool to watch youlearn the rest of it, you know,
like to really kind of dive intowhat yoga is and it's really,
you know, it's nice.
It's just been reallyinteresting and heartwarming,
quite honestly, to to like watchyou soak in the experience of

(01:07:53):
being a yoga teacher.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
Because Amanda is the exact personality type we're
talking about, that sometimeshas a hard time relaxing,
pausing not even relaxing.
Pausing, yeah, being still yes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
And I'm learning a lot and still learning and
enjoying it.
I have, and I think, justlearning to be present in
everything, yeah, and then theteaching just involves, like
even week to week.
Sometimes, like I, I used toget so nervous, like I still do,
I still get there like an hourearly because I have to get in
my right frame of mind, not mycrazy mind of trying to get

(01:08:30):
there, and I like to get set up.
I have a little.
I make sure everything'svacuumed.
I want people to walk into anexperience, I guess, and I don't
want them to see stuff on thecarpet.
I'm, I know I'm strange Um, Ilike the blocks to be all
setting up.
I don't know if it's a thing Ido.
And then I like to run throughmy sequence and I I used to
really stick to it, but now Ikind of I have a plan, I run

(01:08:53):
through it, um, and sometimes Iforget things and then I leave
it out and I'm like, shoot, Iforgot I wanted to do that, or I
add things, or I see whatthey're doing and um, I feel,
like they need this at that timeand I've been able to, like I
do teach off math.
Um, I do, I do do a lot ofdemonstrating, but I know this
week I've really been ableespecially taking over Jamie's

(01:09:13):
classes or, you know, subbingfor her I've been able to like
step back and just call theposes, which is really nice
Because you see so much more andI have so much more opportunity
to stop people.
And I think the, the pose that Idon't see a lot is halfway
lifters, you know, straight backand or flat back, and I noticed

(01:09:34):
still people are a lot rounded.
So I was able to kind of callattention to that and I'll even
hold that little things likethat.
That I that's really good and Idon't, and I want people to
feel what I'm feeling like inthe pose, and poses change, like
they evolve all the time.
If you feel more things and youcan just look at somebody and
know that they're not, they'renot feeling the pose and I and I

(01:09:55):
don't want them to miss thatopportunity.
But you know it's it's hard toget that point across and, um,
you know, I guess express that,but you know we can try and then
you know the halfway lift issuch a throw away and I love the
heated studio in Brexville.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
The shape of it provides such an opportunity to
stand in the back and watchpeople in front of you and
despite all of us sayingverbally queuing for a halfway
lift sometimes we'll say flatback or flat ish back, or draw
your shoulder blades toward eachother you realize that things
are so rote sometimes thatpeople don't even hear, and so

(01:10:33):
if you just can place your handor draw attention to it, it does
change everything.
So it's so nice to be able totry and get back to some hands
on or or queuing.
You know, pointing out, if nottouching that, that we sort of
let go during COVID becausethat's such a.
It's such a big.
That halfway lift is a big partof a Vinyasa yoga practice and

(01:10:55):
to think everybody's just sortof like doing a big, like
thriller zombie lift, you knowwith their back and their arms
instead.
Of making it a nice pose betweenthe poses.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Well, and it preps your back for wherever you're
going next, whether and that'susually a high plank or a down
dog.
But like it's the same sameflat back and high plank, same
flat back and low plank, andit's not.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
I think it provides it's like a space again for the
breath in the body.
It's like oh there's spaceagain now.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Yes, and then it's the same flat back as down dog.
It's just that you're on adiagonal line and down dog, you
know and it.
But you're right, mary Bethlike it creates so much space,
it, it's and it's.
Yeah, it's one of thosetransitional poses that is so
key.
What were you saying, amanda?

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
I just think sometimes we're so quick to move
on to like the next progressionthat if we would just stay
where we are and feel what we'resupposed to feel like.
A side plank pose is anotherone that I've noticed, like the
last couple of weeks, thateveryone wants to lift that leg
and you know.
But then you look and they're,you know they're, they're
hinging, they're not even rightLike I thought.

(01:12:05):
Today.
I'm like you know, squeeze yourglutes, open your hip flexors.
You know, because you're noteven.
I mean that's, that's anoblique strengthening pose.
But if you're turning andyou're hinging and your hips
you're not feeling it.
So I mean I love that I'm ableto step back a little bit more.
I'm getting more confident andI can watch more and see what
people need and I mean I canlike if I'm not, if I'm not

(01:12:27):
watching it, I'm calling tothings that I do wrong and I
don't know if they're doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
Right, it's, it's different for everybody.
I've been again in the in theBrexville studio on Wednesday
night where there's I'd I'd goto the studio for whatever
reason I walk around there more,and my teacher used to make
getting into triangle pose amulti-step process, right, so
there was the hinge first andthe hover before you drop the
arms and to your point about theside plank, even like to draw

(01:12:56):
the rib cage on top of the otherrib cage instead of just even
worrying about the arms, likewho cares about the arms at that
point, right, like lengthen andthen the twist and then, okay,
drop your arm and raise your armif you'd like.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
But or the stack, so anyway.
So yeah, you're a great teacherin that way, Like inside plank.
You know this line should belike this and not like that, and
it's just like knowing whereyou are, like taking a moment to
actually feel where you're atin spaces.
So just so globally healthy,you know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
And then just practice too, like getting
people to breathe, and whenpeople are breathing together
there's such an energy andconnection.
And I just finished the bookBreath by Jane Nester and that,
wow, what an eye opener that is.
That was so such an interestingbook and it helped with me kind
of talk about breath duringclass too, which I think

(01:13:52):
everyone, everyone needs abreath practice, everybody, I
know.
I wish people knew theimportance of it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
Isn't it crazy when you read that book?
I mean I listened to it, but Iwanted to stop like every two
seconds and be like I need towrite that down.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
I need to write it, and I got the book and the
audible.
So I'm like really glad that Igot both, because listening to
it too, I felt like I was incollege again, like in a lecture
that was really cool, but youwere really, you were really
into it you know, interestedthis time.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
Yeah, and trying trying the breath practice.
Well, I do, I listened to itwhile I'm driving, so like then
he's like, well, don't do this,cause you could faint.
I'm like, yeah, I better stopdoing that.
So I'm starting to go back onmy neck and that's not good, but
yeah, so, yeah, I want to.
I want to dive deep into someof these practices too.
Joe actually found some onlinecourse one morning when we were
doing it and that was kind of acombination of, like, all the

(01:14:39):
breath practices in one practice, which was cool to do.
That.
I think it was the Hoffman.
Oh, I'm, yeah, I think that,yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
Guys love Wim Hof.
Is Joe going to sit out in thesnow and is in his boxers this
winter and I'll try to get himto do that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
We'll see.
If I do, all the good videoI'll upload it somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Thank you for for spending some time with Mary
Beth and I.
We don't have to stop now, butI know that we're going on an
hour and a half.

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
As I say when I'm ending a class late, like if you
have a life outside of yoga,it's whatever a clock, so you
have to go, but if you don'tlike, stay a few more minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
Every Saturday morning that Mary Beth has a sub
, I text her and I'm like I haveto get there on time today
because and then the power.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
I remind you, since I was out of town, I was like get
to the studio on time becausewhoever sub for me may end.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
And then the the class that's coming in, they,
they get there early.

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
So, like when Mary Beth comes out, it's like you're
met with a whole lobby full ofanxious people, like any of my,
and at least there is 30 minutesbetween that class, the one,
like on Wednesday night inBrexville, james has only 15
before his, his yin.
And it's funny, amanda, talkingabout getting ready for your
class, I have one class that, ifyou know, if you were planning

(01:16:11):
on working on your, your flow orgetting into a little Zen state
, man, I pull into the parkinglot 35 minutes ahead and there's
already a couple waiting, soit's getting earlier and earlier
.
Yeah, because people too liketo get themselves in a state
before class.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
Yeah, right.
Well, my dog and they get aclass both terrible.
So I have to get there and warmup my down dog before we start.

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
Mary.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
Beth, I love what's made your screen is moving.

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
I can tell that one of your cats is like scratching
their back on it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
Yeah, they're both will text me and be like I.
I just arrived 45 minutes earlyand I'm not the first one here.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
Oh wow, janitor James is still doing his thing.
Often He'll be on a ladderfixing something, swishing the
toilet, I make sure and point itout.
This is the glamorous life ofbeing a business owner.
You know that, amanda, too.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
Oh gosh, yeah, I've been deep in toilets lately,
nice.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
Are you?
Are you still cleaning all thetime?

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
Not as much as I was, but you know people like to
break handles.
We lift a lot of weight atpowerhouse and we can't control
ourselves and we have to get apaper towel out or flush the
toilet, so we have to break it.
This is like slam.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
What happens when you take paper towels out?

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
Oh no, they, they have to beat the the levers, it
comes off the wall.
The levers yeah.
They come up the wall, thelevers break yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
And then you have to get a plastic replacement at the
powerhouse.
Maybe there's.
There's where you could getfamous.
You can invent a fitnessfacility, towel holders and
toilet flushers yeah, could like, have the bozu ball front and
you have to like punch it to getthe paper towel to come out.

(01:18:00):
Yeah, there you go by, amandaHatfield.
Bye guys.

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
I mean except it was my idea, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
I'm saying by oh, and by Marybeth Twirty, presented
by Amanda Hatfield, yeah,Somebody's got to do the work.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
I just came up with the idea, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:19):
I have no engineer background, or in mechanics or
anything, so I don't know how itwould come up with that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
Well, you don't have to, we can, we can hire someone.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
So Amanda's Joe and I went to the same grade school,
st Bartholomew, and while he'ssignificantly younger, like
certainly five years or so,right Like Joe's, not 50 yet.

Speaker 1 (01:18:40):
He will be.

Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
Okay, and I'm going to be 55, I think next birthday,
so but he jokingly tells peoplethat you know we had a thing.
But everybody knows that, likean eighth grade girl is not
going to know who a third gradeboy is, but we tell people that
anyway.
So, he remembers you.

Speaker 1 (01:19:00):
He does like older women, so no, he didn't remember
me.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
He knew.
Once he found out, I went to StBartholomew and we had so many
mutual people in common becauseof you know, siblings and
everything you know.
Friends of mine had youngersiblings that Joe played
football with, or whatever.
So we, we've, we've, we'retrying to have a lot of people.
Yeah, We've constructed a wholefake history.

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
Is that, joe, that you're trying to get?
Yeah, he's here, he's.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
And he can't hear us, though.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
That's probably.
He's probably.
Yeah, you can hear me.
Tell him to start playing inthe Fikastree and lay across
your keyboard.
He'll just fit right in.
Well, thanks again, amanda.
It's always nice spending timewith you, but I appreciate you
coming on to the podcast and andtalk to us for a while, and

(01:19:52):
you're welcome back anytime.

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
And look, if you're local to us, look up when
Amanda's classes are, becausethey're really good.
I'm one of my one of myfavorite teachers.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Oh, thank you, Mary Beth.
Be ready to balance.

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
Yeah, I like, I love balance.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
So, yeah, well, thank you for having me on it was fun
.
Thank you.
Um and well, what do I have tosay now, mary Beth, if you're,
if you're, if you've made itthis far?

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
like Right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
No, like right.
Review tell you review, follow,oh, and tell your friends.
Tell your friends, Threatenyour friends Um all right, we're
done.

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