Your children are watching everything you do, so make it count - Tim Glennie, Managing Partner - Bridgeview - The Quarterback DadCast

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Speaker 2 (00:03):
Hi, I'm Riley and I'm Ryder and this is my dad show.
Hey everybody, it's CaseyJaycox with the quarterback dad
cast.
Welcome to season six, and Icould not be more excited to
have you join me for anotheryear of fantastic episodes and
conversations really unscriptedand raw and authentic

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conversations with dads.
If you're new to this podcast,really it's simple.
It's a podcast where weinterview dads, we learn about
how they were raised, we learnabout the life lessons that were
important to them, we learnabout the values that are
important to them and really welearn about how we can work hard
to become a better quarterbackor leader of our home.
So let's sit back, relax andlisten to today's episode on the
Quarterback Dadcast.

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Well, hey, everybody, it'sCasey Jaycox with the
We are in season six and we arecontinuing to roll right along,
and our next guest is someone Imet at the Wide World of
TechServe.
He is a board member atTechServe, His name is Tim
Glennie and we actually met inlike a breakout session and he
asked a great question that weended up just kind of shooting

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the you know what, and nextthing, you know, I ran into him
again and next thing you know,he somehow got convinced to come
on the old quarterback dad cast.
But he's the managing partnerof Bridgeview Technology
Consulting, a fantastic firmdoing really great, great things
.
He's a South Florida Bull.
Maybe we'll learn a little bitmore about that.
As I mentioned, he's also aboard member of the TechServe

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Alliance.
So if you're a staffing companyout there and you don't know
anything about TechServe, makesure you check him out.
It's a great organization.
So shout out to Susan Donahoeand team.
But, with all that said, that'snot why we're having Tim here.
We're having Tim here to talkabout Tim the dad and how he's
working hard to become thatultimate quarterback or leader
of his household.
So, without further ado, MrGlennie, welcome to the

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Casey, thanks for having me.
I'm excited to be here, you betman.
Well, I'm grateful you're here,and so, with that word in mind,
we always start out eachepisode with gratitude.
So tell me, what are you mostgrateful for as a dad today?

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Oh, that's a great question.
Yeah, something specifichappened last night.
I actually talked about it withmy leadership team this morning
.
So we were finishing up dinnerand at the end of dinner, once a
week my wife has thesedeliveries like a home chef,
where they deliver all theingredients and you have to cook
it up and make a dinner.
At the end of dinner, one of mysons said hey, mom, after
dinner can I go on the Home Chefsite with you and order next

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week's dinner?
And she's like sure.
And I was like, oh, that'sgreat initiative, rhett.
And she said, yeah, she goes.
Well, he doesn't like itbecause I always order chicken.
I said you're right, but youknow what?
He didn't complain about it.
He was proactive and just wantsto look for a different option
and is becoming part of thesolution and not part of the
problem and complaining.
So I viewed that as somethingas a parent like wow, I like how

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that you know, integrated intohis DNA.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, that's a great story and yeah, and when they
get to be a part of it it's evenbetter.
Yeah, it's proactive, it's alittle show and a little
curiosity and shout out to momand dad you obviously have
created the environment for himto feel comfortable to come ask
you to be a part of that too.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
A hundred percent, yeah, and I think you know it's
cool with kids, because he's oneof my more curious kids in the
kitchen and we'll try to createhis own concoctions.
And I was like, hey, you know,if you ordered, are you good
cooking it too?
Right, and just, I think a lotof times the parents get used to
just preparing the food.
I think it's important to bringthe kids into the kitchen and
stimulate their curiosity andhow it goes to help prepare

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things.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, spot on, man.
Well, I'm grateful for a coupleof things.
One we're recording on February20th.
This episode will come out in amonth or so.
Today is my 26th weddinganniversary, so I'm grateful for
my wife.
I'm grateful for our twoamazing kids that we've.
One I got off into college,which makes me feel I still
don't feel like I'm almost 49years old, but I am, and it's

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just crazy to think.
And I have a junior in highschool and I'm grateful I get to
watch her play in a playoffgame tomorrow night, which is
going to be so much fun and,fingers crossed, the basketball
gods are on our side and canbring home a dub.
But just grateful for my wifeand 26 years of marriage, so I
thought I'd give her some shoutout today.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Well, a big congrats on that.
I mean, we've been marriedalmost 24 years and 26 is a
testament, you know, and I'massuming it's a pretty good, 26
years, right, you guys are stilltogether, have the kids, and so
congrats to both of you.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, thank you.
Believe it or not, man, weactually met in seventh grade.
Oh my God, that's amazing.
Yeah, so like I'm see, 40,she's 49.
I'll be 49 next month, in March, and so we met when we were 12.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
What's a 26,?
25 silver right?
I don't know what 26 is what's?

Speaker 2 (04:48):
uh, 26, 25 silver, right, I don't know what 26 is?
Uh, I don't.
I don't cubic zirconium, I meanI don't know.
Um, well, bring me inside theuh, the glenny huddle.
Um, well, I'm guessing you'rethe quarterback.
Most wives are the generalmanager um, but tell me how you
and your wife met and then abouteach member of the team.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Sure, yeah.
So my wife and I met up inBoulder, colorado.
I had you mentioned, I'm aSouth Florida Bull.
So I graduated school andpacked up everything I owned.
I bought a pickup truck and gota topper, drove out to Boulder,
got a job and I was working and, ironically, a guy that I went
to college with, I used to playin bands in college, and he

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moved out to Boulder and said,hey, you want to join this band?
I said, sure, I'll do it.
And we were playing a gig and mywife showed up at the gig it
was a house party on St Paddy'sDay and her friend had a crush
on the singer in the band andshe just came along, didn't
really want to come, and weended up striking up a
conversation and talking to youand learn how to snowboard.

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I was like, hey, I snowboard,let's go snowboarding sometime.
And I remember she wrote me acool little note, like with a
snowboarder and like, hey, let'sgo snowboarding sometime.
And just hit it off and therewas like immediate connection.
And, yeah, that was, let me see, 20, 28, 28 years ago.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, yeah, very cool .
Then tell us about the kids.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
I've got three kids.
My oldest is my daughter,ireland.
She just turned 18.
She's a senior over at SouthHigh School.
I've got twin boys, logan andRhett.
They're 13, in eighth grade.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I love those names.
Thank you.
Is there any story behind that?

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah, there is actually.
So, you know, my wife and I,you know, once we were together
and I think it might even beenbefore we're married like we
just start dreaming about ourfuture together.
We both have come from Irishheritage and love the name
Ireland and thought that'd be areally cool name for a kid, and

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so we're like, all right, we gotone in the bag and then the
name Logan we also liked forsimilar and different reasons.
When we were dating, we bothlived on Logan Street here in
Denver.
She lived on one end, I livedon the other and there, um, and
there was also a show when I wasa kid called Logan's run, you
may remember and I just alwaysthought like Logan just had a

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really cool sound to it.
Um, just a, a great name.
And, and, and both names couldgo to either gender, right, I
mean, they're kind of justflexible names.
And uh, yeah, so we had mydaughter and it was immediately
like boom, that flexible names.
And yeah, so we had my daughterand it was immediately like
boom, that's going to be Ireland, right.
And then so we had one in thebank, we had Logan in the bank,
and then four years later, weget pregnant with twins.
We're like, oh, you know what,what we got Logan.

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What about the other one?
And it's funny because thefirst two came really quick,
right, and then the third one wetalked for months during the
pregnancy about oh, we're goingto do it.
And you know, I'm a musician,I'm really into music and I was
thinking of names like Hendrixand Paige, like great guitar
players and stuff like that, andjust again trying to think of
something unique as a first name.

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My wife's first name isAnastasia and her parents didn't
give her a middle name.
So you know, she got marriedand wanted to take my name, that
she could use her maiden nameas her middle name, which I
thought was really cool.
And then we did the same withmy daughter.
We're like Ireland and we won'tgive her a middle name, and
then you know, she gets marriedand wants to take that name.

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She can keep her maiden name asa middle name.
So just kind of a technique wehave.
But anyway, so we're goingthrough all these names, can't
find anything, and like she'dshoot me names and I'm like nope
, nope, I'd give her names.
I'm like nope, nope, we justweren't getting on the same page
and it was right aroundChristmas and we're putting
together the Christmas tree andmy wife does a real nice job

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getting all these ornaments thatmean something to her.
And we had these two ornamentsfrom Gone With the Wind at
Scarlett O'Hara and Rhett Butlerand it says their names on the
ornament right and she put upthe Rhett Butler you know with
the handsome Clark Gable onthere and she goes what?

Speaker 2 (08:55):
about.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Rhett and as soon as she said it I said yep, and we
got the name and it stuck andyeah, really glad we got it.
That's cool, that's cool.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
That's cool.
How did you get into music outof curiosity.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
That's a great question.
You know I'm a child I was bornin 72 and born in New York and
you know a couple older brothersand an older sister and my
oldest brother he you know hadhad a vinyl collection and he's
always playing like the ledzeppelins and kiss and
arrowsmith and all that stuffI'm sure you can run same time

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as you, um, and it was all great.
And you know my dad had a, anylon string acoustic guitar,
classical guitar and and Iremember listening to led
zeppelin like a whole lot oflove and you know when it has
like the little pick slide on itand I used to to led zeppelin
like whole lot of love, but youknow when it has like the little
pick slide on it and I used tojust pick.
You know I was like five yearsold and I just pick the guitar

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out of the case and try to makethat you know pick sliding sound
and that kind of really got mestarted.
But when I was 12 I I got uhhold of the first jimmy hendrix
record and that blew my mindright and and became a disciple
of Jimi Hendrix.
And it's funny because at thetime that was in the 80s and
here's a guy from the 60s and Ijust locked on to it and just

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really connected with him andI'm like I want to learn how to
play guitar.
And that year I was 12 years oldand my birthday's in October.
And my mom says, well, what doyou want for your birthday?
And I said, well, I want toroll my birthday and Christmas
present into one thing, you know.
And because I and white tape onit and everything, and you know
she's like, all right, forgetabout it, put it under the

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christmas tree.
And uh, I remember I got theguitar and I started playing it.

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I'm like god, I can't reallyhear anything.
I didn't know anything, rightlike about guitars and
electricity and uh, and then Iwas like I figured out, mom, I
need an amp.
You know that's going to costmore money.
And so we went to the store andyou know there's a little you
know 10 inch amp.
And uh, there's like another ahundred bucks or something.
And she's like, all right, well, I'm gonna give you a dollar a

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day for doing dishes.
So you got a hundred days worthof doing dishes, you know.
And and then I found out laterI could also press my dad's
shirts for a dollar.
So I started knocking that outpretty quick and, yeah, once I
got that it took some lessonsand just off to the races Do you
still play?
I do, yeah, yeah, it comes andgoes.
I got really serious about it inmy mid-teens and started

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joining some bands and duringcollege I got in a couple bands.
One caught a lot of tractionright around the early 90s, kind
of in the grunge era, and wewere playing all original music
and opened up for some nationalbands, did some touring and
played probably biggest crowds1,200, 1,500 people played a

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bunch of theaters and clubs.
And we had some bands coming upat the same time as us, like
Marilyn Manson was in our neckof the woods so we were playing
with those guys and you knowthey were like one of the first
bands.
They got signed to TrentReznor's label and a couple
other guys and you know we kindof saw the pathway and I just
decided at a certain point, likeyou know, for the band I was

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our quasi manager, you know,because I had a.
I was kind of a business guy and, uh, it's just an ugly business
I didn't want any part of youknow like I'd see these guys,
like one of our friends, gotsigned to capital records and
they, you know they immediatelymade the band change their name,
change their sound and plus,you know they had to borrow two
hundred thousand dollars fromthe record company and go into
debt and the chances of themever making that back or slim.

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And I was like, okay, so yousell your soul to make the
record go in debt and it's noteven the music you want to make.
You've got a different name,you're in a different genre.
You know they're like oh,grunge is hot right now, do that
.
Or indie pop is, you know, dothat.
It's just, it wasn't veryappealing to me yeah, no, I hear
you, it's you.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
It's funny.
I am self-taught guitar.
I love playing.
I mean I play in spurts.
Sometimes.
The more beers I have, the moreI play.
Yeah, but it's fun to like.
Just, I don't know how to pluck, but I can strum and I just go
to like those like guitar tabsites.
You can kind of like see themusic.
Yeah, I want to kind of change.

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If I and I can hear it, I knowhow to pick up a strum thing
which is but I'm not musicallytrained in guitar, but it's very
, very therapeutic um yeah, yeah, so it sounds like you've got.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
you know, some people have a natural ear for music.
I had that, like I used to, youknow, listen to cassettes and
cds and I would just listen and,and you know, figure out what
chords they were playing, andand then I, you know, you just
kind of assume everybody knowshow to do that, right, and then
when I would listen to records,I could isolate the tracks in my
head.
You know, listen to the bass,or you know there's a cool thing

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like I'm sure you listen toguns and roses, and you know the
appetite for destruction was ahuge album.
And one thing I learned is ifyou pan it left, you only hear
slashes guitar and if and if youpan it right, you hear Izzy's
guitar, and you know Slash waslead and Izzy was rhythm and and
when you isolate their tracks,it, you get a better
understanding of what they'reactually playing.
Versus the blended.
You know, when you put it instereo, you're hearing, you know

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, the panoramic sound.
Yeah, but I'll tell you, orjust anybody listening to this,
like with picking.
First I say, is you?
You do what I?
I, when I watch musicians, Ialways study what they're doing,
if they're playing with thepick, if they're playing with
their fingers.
Some people use their finger asa pick or they have, like if
you listen to blackbird by thebeatles, which I think is one of
the best songs out there, youknow, you know, paul um paul was

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, like you know, kind of afailed guitarist.
He took over bass in theBeatles and he just uses two
fingers on that and it's liketwo strings for the most part
and he's just plucking.
But it's this beautiful songwith these augmented chords and
you got guys like Billy Stringsthat could do anything on a
guitar.
But to me I think some of themost beautiful is when you just
see people kind of create theirown way to play, and that's the

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beautiful thing with the guitar.
Just see people kind of createtheir own way to play, and
that's the beautiful thing withthe guitar.
You know, like it's just if itsounds good, do it.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, my father-in-law can play that song
Bluebird.
He learned it in college and hedoesn't play much but he still
can play it and it's pretty cool.
It's a really really good song.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
It's fun.
Yeah, I, I learned it.
We had friends that got marriedand they asked me and another
buddy to do kind of like aninstrumental set and that was
one of the songs I did just kindof solo there and it's not a
super complex song, you know.
I think it's in G but there'sall these just augmented chords
and you have to remember thetransition because it's not like
playing an A, g, you know Ftype thing.

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It's like two little, two notechords all up and down at like
the A and the B string and it'syou just kind of got to.
Once you get it, it's easy.
But it's just it's funnybecause certain songs I remember
how to play forever and some Icould never remember.
You know, some just get stickyin my brain and some I can learn
them, and especially the morecomplex they are, but then it
just goes away.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Well, I'm going to give some love to.
So I met a guy named Adam Hood,who I met at Staffing World.
He was the music that theybrought in and I met I actually
met a couple other executivesand we and I was just being a
curious person and networkingfor my whole life in business
development.
I'm like he's a dad.

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I want to talk to him.
Yeah, I just got to put it outthere.
Well, he's like a his.
I love his music.
He's like really really goodcountry music guy.
Okay, about our age, private,um, um, but his music he's, I
think, one of the songs up for a.
And then there's also my buddy.
Actually he's from where I livein Seattle area.
His kids are in the Denver areaand they have a new band called

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Marfa M-A-R-F-A.
Oh nice, and they're likeblowing up.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
I'll have to check that out.
Marfa, I'm going to write thatdown.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
M-A-R-F-A.
Yeah, so give those guys somelove.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Yeah, denver's got a good music scene.
That's where I'm at and, um,the lumineers are probably the
latest big band out of here.
Before that it was, uh, thefray and nathaniel ray lift and
the night sweats and, uh, yeah,we we've got, you know, big head
todd and the monsters that'sfrom back in the day and we've
got a number of bands that havecome through, uh, out of denver.
So we have a real, a real musicscene, like they do something

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called the underground musicseries every July and there's
like 10 clubs on Broadway, whichis one of the main strips kind
of in a fun, funky part of town,and they'll have like 300 bands
play, you know, and it's justamazing Wow.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Well, I want to transition um back to what was
like what was life like for Timgrowing up?
And talk about mom and dad andthe impact they had on you.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
now that you're a dad , life like for Tim growing up
and talk about mom and dad andthe impact they had on you.
Now that you're a dad, yeah,sure, two different tales right
how I grew up and how I'mraising my kids.
Yeah, I was born Greenlawn, newYork.
My dad worked in the city inNew York City.
He worked for Citigroup.
He was like a banking kind oflike consulting kind of
executive type guy and helpregional banks do stuff.

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So he would bid me a lot.
He traveled a lot because hewas going out to see regional
banks and help them out.
Um, my mom was stayed home.
Uh, I was the youngest of fourkids.
Uh, so you know my siblingshelped out a lot.
My sister was the oldest.
You know she's eight yearsolder, so she was kind of like
mom number two.
Um, yeah, my, you know my dadloved to death.

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He passed away six years ago buthe was more of an isolationist
and I think it was kind oftalking to a lot of people my
age, kind of a product of thetime.
He was more interested in hisown pursuits than being like a
full-time dad and you know, andif you'd like to do what he did,
you got his time and if youdidn't, you didn't see him.
You know he wasn't like the gothrough the football or baseball

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in the backyard type dad.
He's like hey, I'm working on aproject in the garage, you want
to come help me?
Or I want to go sail mysailboat, you want to go sailing
.
So you know I would just adoptwhatever interest he had, like
yeah, or do whatever and just toget time with them, right,
because I crave time.
And you know my mom was kind ofthe opposite.
She was a nurse before they gotmarried and you know she's a

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really great caretaker and, youknow, always shuttling us around
and doing different stuff.
But I grew up, you know it waskind of like a little hamlet,
greenlawn, new York.
It was very safe.
I won't say rural, I mean herein Long Island, new York, people
might have one conception, butwe had a lot of open space,
lived in a good neighborhood ona cul-de-sac and we had open

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space behind our house where Icould.
I was riding my bike to schoolby myself.
In first grade.
I remember going to Pee Wee whatdo you call it, t-ball games,
you know where I would have mycleats on my handlebar, my glove
on the other side, and I wassix years old and I was writing
myself to to play in games,which I look at my kids now and

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I'm like that never and I livein the city, but you know I'm
like still, like never wouldhave happened.
So I was the latchkey kid, Ihad a lot of space, you know.
It was kind of like, you know,in the summers, like hey, come
home when the uh, when it getsdark, right, and you just might
be and my, my brother that'sclosest to me, is two years
older, so we would just go offwith our friends and, you know,

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go play imaginary games out inthe neighborhood and the woods
and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Isn't it crazy how much time's changed.
I mean, you live in the Sandlotmovie.
You're a character of thatmovie, a hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Yeah, no, it's.
Uh, I feel fortunate for it.
Um, and I'm glad we made itthrough, cause you know, I, I
definitely my brother and I arestill really close and I'm like,
did we really do that?
Or go hop that fence or go dowhatever crazy thing we were
doing?
And you know, put a bunch ofyou know bottle rockets and
something, and you know whateverhappened and like, yeah,

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because like we um, I knowyou're from the pacific
northwest but, like on the eastcoast, we used to have these
things that are enabled, calledsumps, you know, which were like
uh, kind of look like afootball field but inverted in
the ground for flooding andstuff, but for the most time it
was just like this big, hugearea that was fenced off that
you were dying to get into, youknow, but it was generally
overgrown, overgrown.
There's probably possums andwhatever else, raccoons and

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stuff in there, and you knowanything that you could sneak
into.
We wanted to sneak into scale abig fence or, you know, go
climbing up trees and we did alot of tree climbing.
And you know we did Cub Scoutswhen I was young and I don't
know if you did Cub Scouts, but,like you know they do a lot of
adventure based stuff and youknow kind of you make things and

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you know figure out games andkind of a lot of survival stuff.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Are you handy now?
See, I am.
I've made fun of myselfmultiple times on this lovely
podcast where, like, if youGoogled worst, handiest
douchebag, you'll, and thenclick images.
I'm probably going to come up.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Yeah, I wish I was click images.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
I'm probably going to come up.
Yeah, I wish I was.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
I think I'm accidentally handy, like out of
necessity.
I think more than anything I'ma seeker.
I'm a curious guy right, and Ilike to figure out how stuff
works.
Like when I was a kid they usedto have these little way before
Game Boys.
They'd have these littlehandheld games that you just
you'd play one game on it, likeFrogger or something like that,
or you know Tetris or whatever,and I would sit there and look

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at the you know the package, youknow the plastic case it was in
and I'm like what makes thisthing run?
And sometimes I broke them openjust to see you know there's a
chipboard in here and then thischip and where does the battery
go in and how is it connectedand how are the wires?
Like, I'd always try to getlike my parents, like Radio

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Shack they used to have, likethese erector sets or you make
your own radio, and I was justalways curious how you put
things together, how they work,and that kind of back-ended me
into like handy stuff.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
It's funny, I'm a great secondhand though, like if
I just don't have that, thatmind to see it.
Yeah, I'm like crazy curiousfrom like an EQ perspective,
from like, but IQ I just don't.
But once it's built, I'm like,oh, that makes total sense in
the world.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah, so my, my buddies, I yeah, I think a lot
of what I've learned in life,casey, and I'm curious if you
went through something similaris I learned things by figuring

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it out and not getting theproper instruction.
My dad was not a handy guy.
It's funny.
I remember my early years whenwe lived in New York and we had
a basement.
He had a little workshop area.
Anytime something would breakin our house, like a toaster
oven, a hairdryer, whatever itwas.
He'd say, oh, don't throw thatout, I'll fix that.
And there was this pile in thebasement next to his workbench

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there was like five hairdryers,a couple of toasters, you know,
whatever it was that wasn'tworking and he never.
But he so I know that he hadthat curiosity and you know,
probably overconfident, that hecould fix things, or you know
whether you know, as an adultlooking back, either he didn't
have the time or he just.
I never saw him fix any of thatstuff, but he did have a pretty

(23:59):
good tool set up.
And one thing that just relatesto me being a dad is I love
being in the garage.
I've got a workbench, I've gota lot of tools and I remember my
dad.
He had this workbench and a lotof tools.
I never saw him doing it, but Ialways had this curiosity like
hey, what does this tool do?
Or what is this?
I remember we used to havesomething called liquid gold.

(24:20):
I don't know if you ever sawthat.
It was like.
Scott's liquid gold, and it waskind of like a heavy cement kind
of glue thing and I'd try tofind applications.
I just like, oh, this packaginglooks cool, packaging looks
cool, what can I use that on?
And you know, fast forward tonow and I've got this cool

(24:41):
workbench set up and my boyshave really gravitated.
I could tell when they'vemessed in it.
And then I make rules like, hey, these are my tools, you could
use them, but you got to respectmy tools.
If you use them, they go backin this certain spot.
So I know where to find it.
You know cause, like if youcall me asking for a tool, I can
tell you exactly where it isleft-hand bottom drawer.
You can get the power drill andthe drill bits Right and
there's a reason for the system.
And so, and they're learning,you know.

(25:01):
I mean I love that they havethat same curiosity, like
they've got these new e-bikesthat they're always modifying
and stuff and using my tools,and and I just love seeing that
same curiosity in my kids.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
It's awesome.
That's so cool.
Well, sorry, your pops passedmy dad.
I lost my dad December 29th2021.
So we have that in common.
Yeah, as you reflect back fromlike the values that mom and dad
taught you, yeah, tell me whatcomes to mind, maybe through a
story too.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yeah, sure, I, I definitely grew up in a pretty
well.
It's interesting because I wasthe fourth of four kids and and
I come to meet other people thatwere that way as well, and I
kind of learned this, lookingback on it when you're the
fourth of four, your parents arekind of worn out by the time
you're born.
And I relate to this because Iknow when we had my first kid,
my daughter, when you're settingup your house, you want

(25:58):
everything clean and sterilizedand you want to do everything,
perfect, right, and oh, you gotto make sure to sanitize this
bottle and do this and do that.
And once you go through a fewiterations with the kid and
dirty diapers and, oh, just grabwhatever bottle you can.
The time the second set kidscame around, I was like, it's
fine, you don't need tosterilize that, you're not going

(26:18):
to kill them.
You know like these kids areresilient.
And so I use that analogybecause I think when I was
coming up, you know, my parentswere a bit looser with me than
they might've been with my olderkids, cause they're like, oh
well, we didn't break these ones, so that one should be fine,
you know, and yeah, and, yeah.
So, but as far as values, Ithink, definitely commitment.

(26:42):
You know I grew up in a Catholichousehold and, like every
Sunday was church.
You know rain or shine youdidn't, unless you were hospital
sick.
You went to church, right,whether you wanted to go or not.
You dressed up, nice, right, soand we had to do.
You know it's called catechism,but Sunday school to most other
people that go to church, andso you know it's tough when
you're a young kid you don'thave attention span right and to

(27:02):
sit in church.
And you know in the Catholicchurch it's basically the same
exact thing, except for the fiveminute sermon every mass.
So it's very repetitive and Ithink hard for a young kid to
focus.
And then you know Sunday schoolafter at least with some
variety, learning differentstories.
You know about Jesus and thedisciples every time and even

(27:22):
though I didn't like going to it, I realized in hindsight the
moral fiber that it was buildingwithin me.
And you know the differencebetween right, wrong and knowing
that if I did something wrong Ihad to go to confession.
And you know atoning fortransgressions.
You know whether it's likestealing the last Twinkie.
You know having two Twinkies sosomebody else didn't get one or

(27:44):
whatever it was when I was akid.
You know that type of stuff andit gave me a good compass when
it came to hard work.
You know, my dad definitely putus to work at an early age and
you know whether it was cuttinggrass, pulling weeds, washing
his cars and doing all thatstuff, and I always kind of felt

(28:06):
like he was outsourcing it tous.
So he didn't have to do itBecause I did a lot younger than
most of my, like I was.
I was using a ride on lawnmowerat 10 years old.
I didn't allow a lot of 10 yearolds driving uh you know, a
ride on lawnmower, um and uh.
I'll tell you this my, my dad,when, when he would do chores

(28:27):
and he, he was a finance guy,right, he had his MBA and CPA
and worked in banks, so he'svery specific about money and he
worked with a lot of wealthypeople and we were not, we were
middle class and he would tellme stuff about the wealthy and
what they did different andstuff like that.
And when he would pay us forchores he said I'm going to pay

(28:50):
you minimum wage and he'd backout what taxes would be.
So if it was $3 for minimumwage, it's like here's $2 and 13
cents.
I'm like where's the $3?
It's like, no, when you work,they take taxes out.
And I thought, you know, noother parents were doing that
and I was like, dude, that'spretty hardcore.
You know, now, as an adult, youknow he was teaching me the
value of a dollar and trying toprepare me for the world and

(29:11):
what was to come instead of just, I mean, he could easily paid
me $5 instead of $3, you know,and not taking any tax out, but
he was trying to teach mesomething and it wasn't about
the money.
I didn't get it at the time,but I get it now.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
I actually had a friend that did that.
He did, uh, he did tax, he did401k.
Yeah, um, and his kids likewhat the hell?
But it's like I think that'sgenius.
I mean you're, you know you'rewhat?
52?
Yeah, my math's right, 51.

(29:42):
And you remember that still tothis day?

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Yeah, now have you applied that same lesson to your
kids In different ways.
Yeah, I mean, it's differenttimes, right.
So I, you know I've been veryfortunate in my career and
successful financially, but I'mvery tight with my kids.
You know, like there's a lot ofstuff they want that I could
easily get them and stop doing,but I make them work for it,

(30:04):
right, and I really instilledlike if you want something, you
have to work for it.
And when you do work you knowthere's a phrase that's common
but I use it a lot Anythingworth doing is worth doing,
right.
And if I see them do somethinghalf-assed, I call it out and I
explain the importance of doingit.

(30:25):
You do something half-assed,somebody else has to go fix it.
Now, twice the amount of timehas been wasted in what you're
doing and you're putting aburden on somebody else.
And really try to teach themthe principles that align with,
with, with, with the outcome ofwhat their actions are.
Um, yeah, so like we, they havea small allowance.

(30:45):
Um, and they have to do choresto get it.
And um, yeah, we've used allkinds of stuff like that to, to,
to work them through.
We've used all kinds of stufflike that to work them through.
It's not the exact example of mydad, but I think an iteration
that I've done with them isreally exposing them to what
things cost, because my kidshave experienced a lot more at a

(31:07):
young age than I did.
For example, my kids have beento Hawaii multiple times.
I didn't go to Hawaii until Igot married and paid for a nice
honeymoon there.
You know my kids have been toMexico.
They've been to Costa Rica.
You know they're going toEurope this summer, like, and
I'm like this stuff costs realmoney and I'm like you're going
to have a different challengethan me.
I was motivated when I was akid because I never went to

(31:28):
those places and my parents,like my parents would go to
Hawaii.
My dad would go on a boondogglebusiness trip and we'd get left
at home with some crazybabysitter that was chasing me
around the house, you know,hello everybody.

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Speaker 1 (32:40):
My kids are getting to go on these things.
But I talk about the cost andI'm like, hey, do you know how
much this hotel costs that we'restaying in when you go to work
and you're 20, you're not goingto be able to afford this and do
this yourself, unless you hitit out of the park.
So I want you to appreciate itand what we're having, but know
that it takes a lot of hard workto get here, to experience

(33:00):
these things and to really havean appreciation for it.
Um, cause, it's just, you know,it's a different.
We're in a different situationthan I was in.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Yeah, yeah, the power of um money management I think
is a is a really is a really askill that a lot of kids miss.
I think a lot of.
I don't know about in Denverbut, like in Seattle, I don't
think our schools do a reallygood job of teaching finance and
money management.
I have friends who are inwealth management now and one of
them, he actually went out andstarted like a literacy program

(33:29):
for schools and for colleges andI have to get like my my wife
is.
She was really good at I mean,my parents did a lot of things I
don't remember, like learning,a lot of checking but, my wife
when we were in college.
I remember she was like we weresaving money before we even got
married.
Like, all right, you're gonnatake 25 bucks out of your

(33:49):
checking.
Yeah, I'm like, what are youtalking about?
She's like, yeah, we're gonnause that to save part of our
honeymoon.
I was like, so she was teaching, I was getting teached by my
wife.
But even kids will do likethey'll work at their summer job
and then we take that money, wesplit it up by the number of
months are in school and like,here's your, here's what you get
each month, and when it's out,it's out, so yeah, so yeah.

(34:16):
And you got to have this manydays.
So you got to pick and chooselike what in the same thing?
We could easily give themthings, but but I think what you
know, things that are reallyimportant to us and our families
, like keeping kids grounded.
I love the word humility, I lovethe skill set of humility.
I've been around um peoplewho've done a really good job of
keeping me humble my whole lifeand I'll be.
I'm addicted to like neverfeeling like you've arrived, and
I want that same for my kidsbecause, yeah, um, we're all

(34:37):
replaceable.
Um, yeah, one of us and as muchas some people think they're
not, you are and the world willmove on and um, yeah, I don't
know and I think it's importanttoo to let your kids know your
success or your failure isn'ttheirs, you know, for better or
worse, Right?

Speaker 1 (34:55):
So, like you know my dad, we had some ups and downs
growing up.
You know, my dad was in thebanking industry and he worked
at Citigroup for a good numberof years and then he got hired
away to run a small local bankin the New Orleans area and in
the eighties there was a lot ofmerging of banks and, you know,
the bank got bought, he lost hisjob, he wasn't working for six

(35:18):
months and then get hired foranother bank and they get
acquired and he loses, and hewas the head guy, Right.
So, like you know, I saw theseflashes of what life could be.
And then the brutal reality,like what's my dad doing home
for four months, you know, andjust going through this stuff,
and so it was very humbling, youknow, and and and.
When your friends are comingover, they're like why is your
dad home, you know?
Why isn't he at work?

(35:38):
And uh, you know, trying tocover up for it and being
embarrassed like my dad doesn'thave a job, you know.
And uh, I think you know mykids have just kind of seen my
career, you know, gone, gone,generally up over time, and just
assume that's the normal right.
And I saw the struggle within mydad, what he went through, and

(36:00):
I appreciated that and wanted tohave my path be a little bit
different, which obviously Ifigured out.
But I have a lot of friends thatI've been involved in, EO and
other organizations where I workwith a lot of other
entrepreneurs and founders thatyou generally are their first
generation and have done well,right, and we're all sitting

(36:21):
there talking about you know,like hey, if you've been
fortunate enough to have acertain amount, you know, is
giving it to your kids the rightmove?
If so, when do you give it, howmuch?
And then, realizing they're notgoing to have the same
struggles as us, they may seesome of the struggle over time
but they're just coming, not byany fault of their own, but

(36:41):
they're coming from a differentcircumstance and there's been
studies of inheritance and itdoes more damage than good and
everything else.
And so I think it creates areal conundrum for people.
Whether you're, whether you'regiving your kid just, you know,
10 grand, a hundred grand, amillion dollars, there could be
an impact that it's not alwaysgood.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
No, I know it's like the scariest thing.
Like, when you said that storyabout Hawaii, it made me think
like I went my first time I wentto Hawaii was like a senior
trip with like buddies andanother mom and I think we work
really, really hard to make surethat the kids know that this is

(37:19):
.
You know, we are very blessedand very lucky to do what we've
done and don't feel guilty aboutit.
But but, like and to your point, like I love, our mindsets are
somewhere on appreciation, likemaking sure you educate Um, like
when the when I left corporateum and was trying to figure out
what was next, I remember we, wewent to Hawaii with the kids
and my wife and I use miles toupgrade to first and we made
them sit in the back.
Yeah, and it was the best.

(37:41):
We'd waved to him like hey guys, what's up?
And we're like, yeah, when youwork hard and you got a job and
you do well, this is where youcan sit.

Speaker 1 (37:48):
Yeah, but you don't have and I've joked to my kids
about that.
They don't like that joke and Idon't sit in first class but
I've wanted to.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
It's worth it.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Yeah, I might hit you up on that more about the
technique, but I couldappreciate that.
One thing I wanted to talkabout, because I know it's
coming on this show and I thinkit's important.
I don't know that we'll hit itthis show, and I think it's
important.
I don't know that we'll hit it,but, um, you know you talked to
, you, started this off and Ilove that.
You started with gratitude,right.
And um, one thing that Istarted with my daughter, who's

(38:23):
my oldest, when she we, where welive, we live two blocks from
the elementary school and middleschool, right.
So my kids, you know the firsteight years they walked to
school and you know so sometimeswe'd walk with them.
Sometimes, you know the firsteight years they walk to school
and you know so, sometimes we'dwalk with them.
Sometimes, you know, whenthey're old enough, they want to
walk on their own and be cooland not see us.
And then, but once my daughterstarted going to high school in
ninth grade, it's like 10 blocksaway, so I would just drive her
and drop her off on my way towork and I realized, you know,

(38:55):
she's a teenager now.
What do I want to talk to herabout?
And you know I practicemeditation and journaling and
gratitude, right, and all thatstuff.
And I started with her and Isaid, hey, we're going to
practice gratitude.
I'm like, give me two to threethings that you're grateful for,
give me two to three thingsthat you're grateful for.
And when we first started doingit, she was fighting it and she
couldn't think and I'm like I'dsay, well, let me just go.

(39:16):
I'll give you some examples.
I'm glad I get to, you know,have this time to talk to you on
your way to school.
I'm glad it's finallyspringtime and there's no snow
outside and it's sunny today.
And I'm glad, start doing it,you know, and it's a little
rough.
And then we're doing it.

(39:37):
And then after a couple ofweeks I'd always have to prompt
her and like, she's like, youknow, begrudgingly, you know,
teenager being like.
Then she started asking me.
She's like, oh, I'm gratefulfor, and she just started doing
it, naturally, right, and andnow she's 18.
So this is probably when shewas 14, we started and it's just
a natural part of theconversation to bring up
gratitude.

(39:57):
And you know, fast forward nowmy boys are right at that age
and you know I've been drivingthem and I've got twins and
they're paternal, so verydifferent personalities.
And one of them followed in herfootsteps and, you know, as
soon as we get in the car, he'slike here's my gratitude, and he
goes, and it's funny becausehis brother sometimes will just
copy his gratitude and we'relike no, no, no, no, we don't

(40:18):
care what you say, as long asit's not what he said, you know,
and but it's just cool withthem, it's just different
because it's like the struggle,right, they're different
personalities.
Um, and, and I've asked himbefore, I'm like do you know why
we practice gratitude, you know?
And and hear what they have tosay, right, cause it's one thing
to do it, but then to kind ofpull back the covers a little

(40:38):
bit and say this is why youpractice gratitude, right, and
there's a reason for it.
Um, and then my wife, on thesame tip, just to give a shout
out to her um, we try to do, youknow, a few family dinners a
week where we all sit down andeat together when schedules
permit, and we do what we callhighs and lows, or some people

(41:00):
call it the rose and the thorn.
Right, I mean, it's a commonthing, I believe.
But if not, here you go.
Everybody goes around and theygive their highlight from the
day and their low light and it'sgreat to do.
And sometimes all people arelike I got two low lights, you
know, I don't have any eyes, youknow, and it's like then you
might prompt them like wait,didn't you go on a field trip
today?
And you guys get to go see thatcool thing or whatever.

(41:22):
And they're like oh yeah,you're right, but it's something
that's ingrained in our familyand just really gets us talking,
you know.
And and it's because you know,when you ask an eighth grader,
how was your day, they're likeoh, school stinks, I hated it.
It's like OK, next question.
You know, but the highs andlows really causes them to
reflect.
And it's interesting, Like wedid it last night and one of my

(41:45):
sons was very specific about twothings that day, and then my
other son was looking, had to goback a day to find a high, a
low, and then went forward a dayof something coming up as a
high.
You know, and again, I don'tcare where it comes from,
because they're engaging in theprocess.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Yeah.
So I don't know if you realizeyou did this, but I teach
something you did.
And so, at age 41, I learned aframework called TED, which
stands for tell, explain,describe, and it is like to me,
it's like cheat codes.
It's amazing how it changesconversations.
So I use it.
I learned it in a businessperspective, but I use it on my
kids.
So, and what you did is you puta number in the question, or

(42:27):
the number of the gratitude.
So if I just said, hey, tell mewhat you're grateful for, I
don't know, but you for I don'tknow.
But you said, tell me one ortwo things you're grateful for,
right, like the mind goes to thenumber, we'll have to tell two
things.
I don't know why it works, butit works every single time,
every single time.
Yeah, um, I was going to tellyou one thing.
If you want to try this, Ilearned this from another dad I
interviewed.
Shout out to matt miller he, wedid this during covid, because

(42:49):
that's when I interviewed himand it was, um, we're big into
family dinners too, when we can.
Obviously I got a kid incollege now, but it's just three
of us, but they'd go around andsay what's that?
The trick was, I mean the, theexercise was.
You have to say one thing you'regrateful for, um, for yourself,
about you and maybe the day oryour what's going on in your
life.
And one thing you're gratefulfor each member of the family.

(43:11):
Well, that's good, yeah, it's,and it's kind of interesting to
see, like, what your kids, likemy kids, were at the time.
They were, like would have been, you know, 10 and 12 or
whatever, and or no, the lord ofthat, maybe 14 and 12, and just
to hear them say I love, dad,you make me laugh.
Or I love, I'm grateful thatyou always rebound for me, or I

(43:32):
love, we gotta go play golftogether.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Yeah, I love how organized mom is.
I really dig that.
My wife has a similar tradition.
When we do I'm mixing up myhead it's either on Valentine's

(43:54):
Day's cards that we give eachother or on birthday cards.
But I think it's on birthdaycards, when the kids give
birthday cards to the parents,and she taught them to write I
love you because da-da-da, andit's interesting to see each age
that they go through whatthey're like.
Hey dad, I love you because youtaught me how to mountain bike
and you take me skiing right orsomething like that.
Or, hey, dad, you know mydaughter.

(44:16):
Like during COVID we did a lotof math and had a lot of tears.
You know through math homework,through COVID.
So it's just interesting to seeyou know, when you put it on
them, where their head goes andwhat they appreciate, because
it's generally not what youwould think it would be.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Well, when A goes up, does she have plans yet?

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Yeah, she's going to go to college.
She applied to 11.
She's only heard back from four.
She got in all four and waitingto hear from another seven.
But her goal is to go tocollege in Southern California,
either in LA or San Diego.
So she just will know within amonth where she's going.
Some of the schools are just abit slower getting back.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
I just we'll know within a month where she's going
.
Some of the schools are just abit slower getting back.
I will warn you, brother, yes,it is brutal, oh, yeah, oh, and
so he's, ryder's been home threetimes.
Every time he leaves I cryEvery time, yeah, and we meet my
buddies, we talk about it andit's like I'm glad I'm not the
only one.
It's's like, but it's.
It is so weird when they go.
But what's awesome when they gois the growth you see in them

(45:17):
and all the things like, allthese things you're teaching
them when they come back, like Imean, I'm a, I'm obsessed with
curiosity.
Like my son's girlfriend textedme or she snapchatted me.
She's in a reading a magazine,the word curious, she circles it
.
She goes, thought of you.
I'm like, okay, yes, you canmarry her please.
She's amazing, right, and justseeing like things.
Like one day my son texts me,goes it's a picture of my book.

(45:41):
And I go do you know how toread, dude?
I was just like busting balls.
He's no doubt I'm actuallyreading.
This is actually.
I think you know there's a fewpeople I know that might want to
learn how to set betterexpectations.
I'm like what?
I mean I didn't ask him to doit, but it's like these moments
of like growth when they go, itis, it blows your mind, man.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
Yeah, I, I've kind of been preparing myself and, um,
you know, we just call likedaddy daughter dates.
You know where we just try tocause.
I have twin boys, as Imentioned, and we had a lot of
stuff in common with the boys,right, but she was first born
and her and I used to do likewe'd go out and see.
Like the new Cinderella moviecame out and I'm like, hey,
let's go see that or let's golike whatever our common

(46:20):
interest is, like she's craftsyand I'll take her to like
Michael's or Joanne's and, youknow, help her get the stuff and
help her put it together if shedoesn't know how to and stuff
like that.
And I'm a bit of a tech dorkand she is too, and so it might
be putting together somecomputer thing or learning some
new app on.
She's very creative, so likeediting video, for she has a

(46:43):
YouTube channel and does a lotof stuff with social, and so
we'll bond over that stuff.
And it's stuff that my wife'snot, it's just not her cup of
tea, right?
And this year I'm like man, I'mkind of thinking where you know,
where your head's.
You know, you already know I'vehad buddies who've sent their
kids off to school.
And I'm like I'm like hey.

(47:03):
I'm like hey, can we, um, canwe go get a daddy daughter ski
day, you know, or or somethinglike that.
And um, we have a place up inthe mountains here, you know,
some weekends my boys can't go.
And I'm like, hey, you want togo, you and me, and go up there
and do it.
And it was funny, she reachedout a couple of weeks ago and
she's like, hey, she goes.

(47:23):
I think it was before a longweekend, she goes.
Hey, how about we both playhooky on Friday and get up to
the mountains to get a dayskiing in before the crowds come
, you know?
And I was like yes.
And before I responded, I'm likeoh wait, I got to run this by
my wife first, you know, to makesure she's all like hey, you
know, and it was so cool, wewent up there, you know, we had
our ski day, we went out todinner together, we, you know.

(47:46):
One form of bonding I've donewith her is like she has a
certain interest in shows, likewhen she watched Stranger Things
or shows like that, and shedidn't want to watch them by
herself, she wanted a buddy, youknow.
And then I'd start, I'd watch acouple episodes and then we'd
watch the whole series together,so like Stranger Things,
whatever, four seasons.
And then she started watching,like Emily in Paris which, yes,

(48:07):
I do like, and but we bondedtogether and it's like, hey, we
can't watch an episode withouteach other.
That's awesome.
It's 30 minutes of just sittingtogether talking about the show
and enjoying it.
It's just finding ourcommonalities of what we like to
do.

(48:28):
The last thing I'll tie it upwith.
There was a movie that we bothoh, it was the new Dune movie.
Dune 2 came out, I think lastsummer.
Her and I went to go see it inthe theaters together, cause
nobody else was reallyinterested in it and we're
sitting there in the darktheater and we looked at each
other and we were both sittinghere like this with our hands up
in the same exact way, watchingthe movie, and we just kind of
looked at each other and justsmiled because you know, we we

(48:49):
have so much sometimes in commonor commonalities.
It's just like you are mydaughter.

Speaker 2 (48:58):
Yeah, yeah, it's, it's.
It's crazy when you, as theyget older man, like all the
things, the good, the goodthings we do, the bad things we
do, you know it's in them.
And when it comes out it's likeyeah, I only.
I mean, as we all know, it justkeeps getting better and better
and better.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
One thing I will say to caution.
I've told this to other parents.
I know this is the QE, dadright, this is, you know, a
thing.
I learned not to do as much andyou know, you and I know each
other a little bit but you know,growing up I kind of had a
quick wit and probably a heavydose of sarcasm in the way I
communicated and you know I liketo think of myself as a

(49:36):
comedian and you point out theirony or sarcastic things and
you know, when my kids weresmall, I don't think they really
got it right.
And then, once they're teenagers, when they started saying stuff
back to me in a sarcastic way,I'm like I have nobody to blame
for that but myself.
And then I really changed myapproach on sarcasm and and you

(49:58):
know, I always thought it wasfunny and biting comments.
But when it got served back upto me, you know, a dirty,
ashtray, greasy pork sandwich, Iwas like I do not like that at
all.
And and I need to look in themirror and and and kind of fix
myself a little bit and and be abetter role model to them
Because, as you said, they are areflection and unfortunately,

(50:20):
you know, I'm not perfect andand and.
When I see things reflectedthat I don't like, I'm like I
need to clean up my act.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
Was that a weird science reference?
Yes, Solid, See my buddies.
I have one buddy shout out to,Josh McFadden, former guest on
the podcast, who is a huge PearlJam fan, by the way.
Oh great, he goes, Jaycox.
If it wasn't for 80s movies,you wouldn't be funny.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Yeah, that's good, so I'll.
And this is I'm curious toexplore this with you because
your kids are a little bit olderthan mine, but the reason that
reference is fresh in my head.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
So I watched Weird Science probably a hundred times
on Betamax when I was a kid.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
My brother, steve, and I would watch that movie.
We knew every line.
I used to dream if I had ahouse as cool as theirs and
actually had my own bathroominstead of sharing it with three
siblings, and you know thescene where they're like
pretending to shave in there,anyway.
So I love that movie and, likeany parent, there's certain
movies from your childhood youwant to show to your kids.

(51:18):
Like I remember when we showedour kids ET.
You know, I remember I saw ETwhen I was eight years old,
right, and I remember showing itto my kids and in the opening
scene, you know, they're sittingthere talking about dick jokes
and smoking cigarettes and likeblowjob and like all this
different stuff and the mom'slike smoking cigarettes in the
house and I'm like holy crap,like I did not remember this
being.
You know there's so muchgratuity.

(51:39):
You know gratuitous behaviorwithin these 80s movies and just
you know, always nudity andstuff.
But anyway, a weird sciencealways held a special place in
my heart and I was up in ourmountain place with my boys and
another buddy and his son and wealways talk about, you know, go
skiing in the day and watch amovie at night and I'm like

(52:00):
let's watch Weird Science, youknow, and I was just hoping it
held up, you know, and that Ididn't have to fast forward too
much and I think, to my honestopinion, I think it held up
great.
And you know, my boys in eighthgrade in the movie the guys are
in ninth grade, right, and theopening scene when they're
sitting there looking at thecheerleaders and gymnasts and
the gymnasiums and then RobertDowney Jr pulls down the shorts

(52:21):
behind them, I'm like that'sgoing to be my sons next year
and I'm like this is so ontarget, like awkward young dudes
wanting to have girlfriends andstuff, and yeah love that movie
.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
We're hip, we're popular, we're dear, we're studs
.
That's right.
No, check us out.
Yes, you know I could.
We should not have said that,dude Cause.
Now I.
Next time I see I'm going to bequoting weird science Every
time I see it.
Yeah, you're stewed, but one.
Okay, If you were to thinkabout all of the things you and

(52:53):
your wife are doing to raiseyour kids, Like what?
Tell me the top three mostimportant values you hope you
leave them with?

Speaker 1 (53:01):
Uh, yeah, I first I would say, uh, personal
responsibility, owning yourstuff right and knowing things
start, and with you, um.
Second, I would say, um,realize that life is a struggle.
Don't buy into the fairy tale.
Uh, happiness is a temporarystate, not something you aspire

(53:23):
to.
You know, people say all Iwanted to be was happy, and it's
like that's the biggest thingon earth you could ever ask for.
You know, like life is constantup and downs and happiness is
something you enjoy for a coupleof minutes, you know, and I
think, third, you know, realizelife will generally will never

(53:45):
give you more than you can'thandle, and know that you are
equipped to do the job.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
That's really good, dude.
It's funny.
You make me think of when I was23.
We got married young.
My dad, he had about a 20-yearrun of just health issues in and
out of us, in and out of likepsych ward, um, bankrupt himself
almost, uh, in and out ofsister living and it was like me

(54:12):
and my wife taking care of himand I used to tell myself all
that I was like god onlychallenge only put.
He knew I can take it and I hadan amazing wife and the the um,
you know the vows of death andsickness and health.
Like Carrie, my wife, she stoodup and there were days where I
remember taking the phone andthrowing it at the couch because
my dad, he couldn't like listento me but he could listen to my

(54:35):
wife, you know.
So it's like I think you'reright.
It's really good advice.
Um, really good advice.
Um, okay, I know we're we'regetting up on time.
Yeah, no worries.
Um, okay, I know we're we'regetting up on time.
Yeah, no worries for that.
But, um, if you had to think ofan area your dad game that
maybe it's not where you want itthat might relate to dads at
home.
That if, if you feelcomfortable sharing.
I'm more happy to go first.
But if an area that you'redagging, you're like this, is an

(54:56):
area that you know, sometimesit's not always the best side of
tim, but but but I, I know itand I'm working on it and I I
realized that it's a you knowit's a lifelong journey to get
better.
But tell me what comes to mind.
For myself, not my dad.
Right For you, yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
I think something for me is, you know, I grew up
Irish Catholic, right, and soyou know I grew up in a
environment where, you know,drinking and partying was normal
part of the thing and I lived agood bit of my life that way.
But once my kids, we live avery social life in our

(55:32):
neighborhood.
Especially in the summer,there's people at our house,
their house, and we'll carry onfor hours at a time, and there's
kids running around and I thinkwhen they're little we could
get away with a lot more.
And but you know, once theystart getting around 12, you
know they're like hey isso-and-so drunk or whatever, or
um things that you say when yourtongue gets looser, um could be

(55:56):
quite dangerous.
And you know I, actually I Iquit drinking about a year and a
half ago and um, yeah, and I'mI'm grateful for that Um, but I
think it's something you knowthat that I'm sure at certain
points I was careless with.
You know, um, just kind ofcaught up in things and and I've
seen other people do it becausebehavior does change once the

(56:18):
drinks start flowing.
And I think, um, again, we'remirrors, right, and

(56:48):
no-transcript, and when I heardthat statement it rang so true
to me and you know, I think whenyou know myself or I see others
drink, you know there's whatyou think you're showing and
then what you're actuallyshowing, right, you know, kind

(57:10):
of like the beer goggles and, um, I, I just I would, I would
just say to any dad out there um, you know, we convince
ourselves oh, I have a tough day, it's my time to unwind, or you
know this and that is thatwe're signaling through our
behavior that this is okay and,just like the sarcasmasm, if
we're doing it, they're gonna doit right.
And um, I think it's just areal slippery slope and and I'm

(57:32):
grateful for I am now, um, and Idefinitely probably had some
slip-ups, you know, in the pastand uh, I think it's just
something uh, to to be reallycautious of.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Yeah, um, just because I I'm asking you don't
have to answer, but was there amoment that's triggered?
You said, hey, I got to stopbecause of this, or was just
like you know what?
I'm going to wake up one dayand I don't want to do it
anymore.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Yeah, no, I'll lean into this one.
It's definitely a vulnerablething for me.
But I've had anxiety disorderssince I was 17.
And when it came on it was 1990.
And there was not a lot of talkabout mental health and if you
went and saw you know, apsychologist, a psychiatrist,
people thought you needed to bein an institute, like oh, you're

(58:15):
seeing a shrink, and like todayit's so well embraced and
that's why I'm comfortabletalking about you know cause
people lead with that now, right, and I think there's more of a
general understanding andthere's books coming out called
Anxious Nation, you know, andstuff like that.
So I think it is important totalk about.
But yeah, so I've struggled withmy anxiety disorder, you know,
all these years, right, and toany anxious person out there,

(58:39):
you know if you're getting readyto have a panic attack or
you're feeling anxious in asituation, people have all
different types of anxiety andwhen you have a drink, guess
what happens to your anxiety?
It goes away a little bit.
Have another drink goes away alittle bit.
But the trick is the nextmorning when you wake up and
some people call it anxiety orwaking anxiety levels Like if I

(59:00):
didn't drink, wake up on a scaleof one to 10,.
My anxiety is at a two, whichis very manageable.
If I drank and felt great thenight before, when I wake up in
the morning, my anxiety levelwould be at a six or seven,
right, and then you get in thisloop and you're like, oh, you
know what makes that feel better.
It's called self-medication,right, and you know I was always

(59:23):
aware of it and was carefulwith it.
But as I worked on myself andyou know I've seen a number of
therapists over the years I justrealized I'd take a step
forward and kept taking a coupleof steps back and was not
making noticeable progress.
And when I turned 50, whichyou're about to do I just had a
hard look in the mirror and belike, hey, I want my life to be
better.
You know I'm tired, like I, I Iwould.

(59:46):
When I would share this storywith you know, in intimate
circles people would ask aboutit.
I talk about cysts, you know,like rolling the rock up the
hill and rolling back down,because you know my anxiety
would get better and I'd work onit really hard and do this and
you know, and it would roll backdown.
You know cause there's, youknow, uh, exposure, therapy and
certain things you do to work onyour anxiety, and um, and it

(01:00:08):
just got frustrating, you knowcause I'd make progress and then
roll back down and makeprogress and at a certain point
you kind of get tired of thefight, you know, and it's just
like I'm exhausted from justtrying.
Why do I have to try so hard toget over this?
And I was like you know I'dgone through periods like dry
January or just, you know,quitting for a couple months to
clean up my act or lose weight,whatever.
So I knew I never had a problemnot drinking.

(01:00:31):
You know, like I quit drinkingliquor, like 12 years ago, and
it was like, hey, that was, youknow, once I gave it up and I
just drink beer and wine and Ipromised myself I said, if you
get in that spot where you'renot progressing, you just need
to give it all up.
You know, and my dad was analcoholic, a functional

(01:00:52):
alcoholic.
His dad was a alcoholic and soI knew it was in my DNA and I
always promised myself, if I sawyou know kind of problems
arising, that it's time to bowout.
You know, and I wanted to do iton my terms, I didn't want to
end up getting myself in aproblem where I had an
intervention or my wife's like,hey, if you don't stop that, I'm
going to leave you, or thingsof that nature.
And I stopped Casey 18 monthsago and it's been a life changer

(01:01:17):
.
My anxiety is, I would say, 70%better.
My relationship with myself,with my wife, with my business
partner, with my kids is just.
My energy levels are so muchbetter.
I've lost a considerable amountof weight from it.
I work out a lot more.
I snowboard and mountain bike alot.
My recovery ability I'vealready got 25 days in this year

(01:01:41):
and usually by this point myknees will be killing me and I
feel great, you know.
So, uh, I, my plus column is sostacked high and and my cons,
there's not really anything inthere.
Um, so I I just feel fortunatethat that I saw the light for
myself and and and put myself onthis path.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Shout out to you, dude, that's awesome.
I've interviewed a lot ofpeople that have talked about um
, a getting help, no matter whatit is, whether it's addiction,
whether it's whether it's mentalhealth, um, and I've talked to
a lot of dads who went sober.
So shout out to you.
Actually, josh McFadden, mybuddy, he talked about it and um
, um, I, uh, I, you know, I, Ihave alcoholism in my family.

(01:02:21):
I have not quit yet, but it'sdefinitely something that I'm
definitely aware of and we'll go.
I only allow myself to do acouple nights, whatever it is a
week, just because I want tostay on it.
And when he talked to someoneelse about it, he said the fact
that you think about it that way, I'm not worried about you.
It was the people who get.

(01:02:41):
Really, his perspective wasyou're having a pre-funk before
the pre-funk, right, you know?

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
and so um, there's a movement afoot, I mean, and
there's a great guy, he's aformer footballer out of the uk
um, he has this movement calledalcohol free.
You know he, he had a similarstory to mine and I've listened
to his uh podcast and you knowhe was a famous footballer and
you know I think there was a lotof stigmas associated with.

(01:03:09):
You know it's quite big over inEurope, obviously everywhere
but the US and it was I listenedto it after I made the decision
, but I felt the interestingthing and I'll just steer it
this way for a second.
He really said you know, peoplekind of look at this dichotomy
like, hey, the only people thathave a problem are people like
you know, alcoholics or heavydrinking.
But that's not true.

(01:03:30):
There's what they call kind ofmiddle lane, right, which is the
people do what you justdescribed yourself as being and
where they think, hey, as longas I'm not an alcoholic, I don't
have a problem.
But if you read any news outthere, science is getting better
and the technology all the timeabout the impacts of certain
things.
There's a lot of talk aboutmicroplastics and all that stuff
right now, but people used toonly look at alcohol like, hey,

(01:03:54):
I'm fine, I don't need to drinkevery day or whatever, and my
liver is okay.
Well, now it's hey, if you arethat middle lane drinker, the
cumulative effects over time oncardiac health, on cancer risk,
on I mean, there's a long, dirtylist of things that, even for
moderate drinkers, that canreally affect your quality and

(01:04:15):
length of life.
That, I think, is giving a lotof people an opportunity to
again.
Sober is one term, right, I meanthat's more of an AA thing.
Alcohol-free, uh, is something.
Uh, I think if we talk sober,it usually means it got quite
problematic right For folks.
And, um, you know when how togo.
Maybe get a go to in treatmentprogram, like me.

(01:04:37):
I just quit Like I didn't go toa program.
Um, I've been in therapy forplenty of things and I felt like
I was on a good track and Iknew where I needed to go.
And I'm not saying my way isright for everybody, but it
worked for me Right and like theway you asked me about it.
I have so many people ask aboutit and I can always tell
they're waiting to hear aboutthe car crash or getting kicked

(01:04:58):
out of the house or likesomething traumatic, and they're
always kind of disappointedthat I don't have that and I'm
sorry that I don't.
But that's why I like to callit out, because I spent years

(01:05:27):
where I couldn't talk about itto anybody for risk of being a
pariah or people looking down onme or like, oh, you shouldn't
be in the position you're in ifyou have that and that's all BS.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
I applaud your vulnerability.
When I started this podcastalmost six years ago well,
actually over six years ago Iwanted to create spaces to have
these types of conversationswith dads, because most dads
don't open up about this type ofstuff and, um, it's been really
, really fun to impact peopleand have the right person.
If we can get the right personto listen to it maybe he's going
through what you just wentthrough that says huh, if Tim

(01:06:01):
did it, why can't I do it?
Yeah so thank, thank you forbeing honest, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
No, Casey, I appreciate you.
I mean, I know, when we met inperson I instantly liked you.
I listened to your presentationand Ted and everything else and
I had to leave early for aflight and I was really bummed.
I didn't get to see the wholething.
But you're a special guy.
I appreciate you.
I appreciate what you're doing.
I've listened to earlierversions of this podcast and

(01:06:27):
just the way you connect withguys and I think you're quite
thoughtful in your approach andI think you're doing this for
the right reasons.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
Awesome, man, that means a lot.
I really appreciate you sayingthat.
Yeah, okay, I want to give somelove to Bridgeview.
Talk to us about what you guysare doing.
If people want to learn moreabout the company, let's make
sure that we, because I reallyliked how you approached
yourself at that presentationour conversation so I think it'd
be cool to just make sureeverybody else knows about what

(01:06:56):
you guys are doing.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Yeah, no, I appreciate that and I'll be
quick with it and you've been inthe industry so I know you get
it.
But just to the listeners thataren't in the industry and know
we do so yeah, broadly we're atechnology consulting firm.
What that means in reality.
We started as an IT staffingfirm in 2005 and quickly kind of
found ourselves as an outlierbecause we were doing a lot of

(01:07:19):
hybrid work with our clients andkind of getting some special
air with them as a go-to vendorand clients would ask us more
and more about consultative work.
And then we built out aconsulting division and then
from that we built out what wecall the blended solution, which
is IT staffing plus consulting.

(01:07:40):
And people may say, well, whatdoes that mean?
Well, it staffing is just hey,you have a clearly identified
problem, you need specific skillsets for a certain duration of
time and get me those skillsright.
What we learned is that soundsclean, it's usually not that
clean and they would get theseresources that they're paying a
lot of money for and they don'tget the outcome they want.

(01:08:00):
And they needed a bit morestrategy and advisory in what
they were doing, in theirapproach, instead of just pure
manpower.
And so through lessons learnedand working with hundreds of
clients on numerous engagements,and it all comes down to like
you know, they're generallyimplementing something or they
have a proof of concept or theyhad a failed implementation or

(01:08:21):
failed adoption of it.
Is we have experts that couldcome in and just really meet our
client where they're at in thejourney.
And that's the consulting piece, like really synthesizing the
situation quickly and thengiving the right prescription
for their situation.
Like, hey, we think you need alittle bit of consulting fairy
dust on this just to help outwith the strategy and get
alignment.

(01:08:42):
But you don't need a bunch ofbench consultants, you know, we,
we think you know at a bettercost for you.
You know we're going to, we'regoing to have two of our
consultants help out on thestrategy, kind of guide this
project, but then we're going toplug in some traditional staff
aug into kind of the meat andpotatoes work that they're doing
, cause you've been around whenyou're you're K4 stays where.

(01:09:03):
But we realized when we wentinto clients, especially large
enterprise clients they haveAccenture in there, they have
Slalom in there, they have K-4in there, they have Bridgeview
in there, and everything waskind of bit by bit.
You know it wasn't one personowning the whole thing and we
really wanted to help put awrapper around things and make
sure we were looking out for theclient and not just getting
their business but actuallyhelping them hit their

(01:09:25):
objectives and understandingwhat the objectives were and the
deadlines and the goals.
And so it's really hey, thecore of it is the IT staffing,
but making sure they're using itin a meaningful way.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
I like that.
That was really well said.
Are there specific industriesthat people might, that you guys
find yourself doing more workin?

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
Yeah, I'll talk about industries and also technology
With industries.
We do a lot of work in thefinancial services industries
and FinTech and you know largefinancial companies typically
because they have they have alot of custom in-house
applications, very transactionbased, and a lot of regulations
around it.
We work in the technology space, we work in aerospace, do a lot

(01:10:09):
with a lot of companies puttingsatellites in the sky, ground
control systems, systems thatwork within rockets.
Also within healthcare andwithin government are the main
core segments that we work in.
You know, the wrinkle with us,compared to average firms, is we
tend to work with highlycomplex clients that it's not

(01:10:30):
just getting a rec and being anorder taker, but somebody could
understand.
Like if a client comes to usand says we need a Java
developer, we don't go okay,tell us about the Java developer
.
We say why do you need a Javadeveloper?
What are they doing?
What are they part of?
Are they part of a team?
What are their deliverables?
Look like Right.
So we don't want to just knowthe skills, we want to know the

(01:10:52):
context and the scope and thescale of what they're doing.
You know A, so we can trulyfind the right fit for them and
make sure that it is staffingand not a staffing and
consulting, or more of aconsulting than a staffing,
because we're again, we'refocused on the outcome and if we
help them achieve success,they're going to keep coming
back to us and you know, theymight just be looking at the
immediate kind of aggravationwhich is like, hey, I need

(01:11:12):
another person.
But we're looking at, well,tell us why you need another
person.
So the why is more important tous than the what.
And then, as far as technologies, we definitely skew towards the
app dev side of the world.
You know so most things we doaround application development,
cloud technologies,replatforming, you know again,

(01:11:36):
from older legacy systems tonewer systems, or getting people
, you know, from on-prem to inthe cloud, or re-architecting
the cloud solution that they'rein, you know, if they're on
Oracle Cloud and they want to goto AWS.
Additionally, we do a lot ofwork with data.
Everything involves data.
So, whether it's dataarchitecture, data integration
or data engineering anddashboarding a lot of that work.
And then our other thirdpractice that we do a ton with

(01:11:57):
is around integrating AI andmachine learning, either
building native systems to thator augmenting systems with that
technology.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
Love it.
You know, I'll give you a shoutout.
Sometimes, executives, brother,they don't, they can't, they
don't have the sales chops orthe communication skills.
You're keeping yourself sharp.
I like to.
I like to see this.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
I try.
What came up is that, you know,I started recruiting in sales
and worked my way up.
So I think, um, you know, chrisand I my business partner, like
we always say, we're willing tojump into any role in the
company and stay current, and so, whether it's jumping in with
the recruiting team, theconsulting team or the sales
team or the marketing team, sowe, we, we jump in a lot and

(01:12:37):
really try to keep our chops up.
So I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Yeah, no, it's, it's, it's, uh, it's.
Hopefully you're, hopefullyyour company appreciates that
bike, Cause I know, I've, I'veseen, I've seen a lot in the
industry and I've seen a lot oftimes companies where people,
they, you, lose track of the whyand it causes a lot, a lot of
problems.
So where can people find you?
Um, if, if people have beenintrigued by your story, they
want to connect with you, theywant to find Bridgeview, tell me
what's the easiest way peoplecan find you and your company.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
Yeah, I mean and hopefully you could drop it in
the show notes too but thewebsite is bridgeviewitcom, so
it's like a bridge over waterand view like a view out your
window.
Itcom, linkedin.
They could go on there andeasily find me.
Just type in Tim Glennie, lastname's G-L-E-N-N-I-E.
We do a ton on LinkedIn witheducational videos, links, logs,

(01:13:25):
articles etc.
So that's kind of our maingo-to platform there.
Yeah, I appreciate that Peoplecan reach out if they want to
talk about somethingbusiness-related, they want to
talk about alcohol-free or theywant to talk about anxiety.
Casey, I've been very fortunatein my life and I'm 52 and at

(01:13:46):
this stage I try to spend asmuch time giving back and
mentoring or advising or justsharing my experience.
I'm an experience based teacher.
I don't tell people what to do.
I tell them what I did and letthem draw their conclusions out
of it, versus saying go, do this.
I'm always going to tell a whynot just go what to do, but why
you should do it and what thebalance looks like of the

(01:14:08):
different options.
So that's my approach and whatyou get when dealing with me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
Love it.
I will make sure this is allconnected in the show notes.
It is now time to go in to whatI call the lightning round, and
thanks for hanging with useverybody.
This is one of our longerepisodes, but it's been too good
to not end it so, but I wantwe're going to end it here with
the lightning round.
This is where I show you thenegative hits have taken too
many hits in college not bonghits, but football hits and your
job is to answer thesequestions as quickly as you can.

(01:14:34):
My job is to try to get agiggle out of you.
Okay, okay, true or false.
You have a purple haze tattooon the lower back of your self
False, okay, uh, true or false.
You are considered the, the,the Chet in the staffing
industry False, uh.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
last book, the last book you read, was uh, the last
book I read, uh, was green lightby Matthew McConaughey.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Okay, I read it.
It's really good book.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
If I went into your phone and played some music,
what would be?

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
one song that might surprise your employees.
Bullet in your Head by RageAgainst the Machine.
Hardcore.
There we go.
If you were going to go on avacation right now.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
Just you and Anastasia, where are you going?
If just the two of us weregoing on vacation, I'd say
probably go to Costa Rica,probably go to uh by R and all
up at the Springs up there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
Okay, Um favorite comedy movie ever is.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
God, that is a tough one, um, but this is quick.
So, uh, caddyshack.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Solid.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, Icould.
I could go on that one forevertoo.
Yeah, um, if I came to yourhouse for dinner tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
What would we have?
Oh, thursday night.
Well, I'm going to the nuggetsgame meeting there, so you'd be
eating with my wife and two ofmy kids because I'm taking the
other kid to the game.
But if you're eating theretonight probably wouldn't be
chicken, because we had thatlast night.
So I'm gonna guess tonight iseither going to be a salad with
a protein or some sort ofMexican taco burrito dish.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
There we go.
I'm jealous.
You have an NBA team.
We are lovely.
Sonics are gone.
Hopefully we'll be back.
We're now hot, gary.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
Payton Back in the day.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
Yeah, I mean Sean camp debtless shrimp, yeah 1995.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
First ever do it in a seven game series.
Yeah, five, uh, first ever doit in a seven game series.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
Yeah, yeah, it's class, yeah we got a great team
right now, so I'm trying toenjoy it.
Yeah, okay, and then lastquestion would be actually two
last questions.
If there was to be a bookwritten about your life, tell me
the title uh, seriously,question exclamation point okay,
so seriously, question markexclamation point now is
crushing it.
Every airport is selling out ofthis book.
Every airport, every Barnes andNoble Amazon.

(01:16:49):
They can't print enough copiesbecause everybody wants to read
it.
So now Netflix has decided tomake a movie about it.
You are now the castingdirector and need to know who's
going to star Tim Glennie inthis new, critically acclaimed
hit new movie.
Oh, jason Segel.
Okay, here we go.
And last question Tell me twowords that would describe your
wife.
Beautiful and smart.
There we go, lightning roundscomplete.

(01:17:10):
Uh, we both giggled.
Uh, I always laugh at my ownjokes.
That's what good dads do.
Uh, this has been an absoluteblast.
This has been one of the longerepisodes.
Thanks for hanging in witheverybody.
Thank you for, tim, just yourhonesty, your vulnerability and
spending some time with me today.
I want to make sure that, ifthis episode has touched you at
home, please do us a favor, goto where you listen to your
podcast and leave us a review,or or, even better yet, share

(01:17:32):
this episode with somebody whoyou think can can gain value out
of it.
Um, I do this for free,everybody.
Uh, I get paid back in thisthing called karma.
Um, and there's a lot of peoplethink oh, you're like a
podcaster, is that your job?
I'm like no, it's just like aproject and it's so fun and I've
met some amazing people.
You're one of them, tim.
But I wanted to say thank you,guys for your continued support

(01:17:53):
and, tim, hopefully our pathswill cross again where I can see
you live in person.
Appreciate you, brother.

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