October 11, 2024 • 49 mins
Picture this: a music festival born from the ashes of canceled plans, now a thriving annual event. This is a real music festival - kinda. 😎
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I put a blessing on it to real.
That's the metaphoric.
We just put the I in iconicbuzzin' like I'm electronic hey
everybody, I'm Tiffany Foy.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome to the Ramblin' Gypsy podcast.
Today we are back in myshe-shed and we have a very
special guest.
This is Lance that we are goingto um no.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
No, Dustin, Dustin, Dustin.
Where'd I get?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Lance from I don't know.
I thought you said.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I thought you said it was lance you know, since I cut
all my hair off, I look like alance.
Well hey everybody meet.
Dustin and lance, yeah you knowI like to get everybody a good
name.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I'm in my lance area.
I swore that you texted me thatearlier when I said we have two
people showing up and alissacan't make it.
Oh I don't know, it's been along morning.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
You said Dustin.
Earlier, though, I think, did I.
I think, or maybe you saidDustin.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I don't know.
I had a 30-minute bloody noseto start off my day, amongst
everything else.
So, anyways, now, alyssa, thisis Dustin, right, and I'm
Tiffany, in case y'all don'tknow, and in case I don't know
or I forgot, so you are doing,you're musically inclined and
doing some music things up anddown River Road, which is where
(01:11):
we are in New Braunfels.
Yeah, tell us about it yeah,how it got started the festival.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah, we've been doing this, is it?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
It's called In a Jam Down by the River.
Yeah, maybe I can get thatstraight and not fuck that up.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
No, it's all good.
Why is the name Hintz?
You know, it's like kind of acallback to the Chris Farley bit
and stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Because the first year was kind of a joke.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
And yeah, we all just got together because we had
nothing else going on, kind ofthing.
And then, yeah, they're like,well, that was fun, let's do it
again, do it again, and now it'sa full on thing with a very
long name and a very longcom,you know, but uh, so was it just
a group of friends of y'all'sjust decided y'all go camping
one weekend?
Yeah, no, we, um, you know weweren't taking a stance or
(01:53):
anything like that, just preface.
But it was like 2020, towardsthe end of it, and uh, you know,
everything got canceled andpushed out and me and all my
musician friends and stuff thatwe'd all been rehearsing and
playing together anyway, andfriends like that.
And then we had friends whowere non-musician, who had taken
off work for a festival.
Then it got pushed to Octoberand then it got canceled
completely.
So they were like, well, wehave time off, and then on REM,
(02:15):
it's like we don't have any gigs, like you know.
So it was just a couple of usor whatever.
It got together more or lesslike a camping weekend and we
put on a show and then the nextyear like, hey, you want to do
it again and where are you guysall from?
kind of all over texas all over.
Yeah, just some kind of in likethe songwriter community or
whatever.
Yeah, just in the broader allover texas, right, um, and we
(02:35):
really just came down here forthe river and just for the
setting in october.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
It's just so beautiful it is kind of empty
down here and the weather'sstarting to change, right?
Yeah, starting to change, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
But yeah, like now that we've done it here a few
years, we've been bringing inmore local people and stuff like
that.
We've got the Reed Brotherscoming out this year.
The Rough Stock have been withus a couple years, people like
that, you know, and now thatwe're kind of part of the
community, it's like let'speople all the way from coming
in from Louisiana, alabama, allthe way from North Texas, west
(03:05):
Texas, east Texas and abroad,nice.
Oh, and we have a gal from theUK come this year Really.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, did you hear that?
Yeah, shout out to our girlover here.
Yeah, yep, yep, that's nice,that's awesome, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
A little bit of everything.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
How long have y'all been doing this?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Fifth year.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Fifth year and it's been a mountain breeze every
time.
Yeah, nice.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, they've worked with us.
Oh, it's such a good dude.
Yeah, yeah, he kind of sets upand lets you guys accommodate
and makes it an easy flow andit's a nice big area, yeah, with
the thing that they're easy towork with, and then the showers
and the grounds, and we gotcabins, we got RV spaces and we
(03:49):
can.
Your ticket just includes tentcamping or car camping, whatever
you're going to end up doing,you know, um, that's made it
pretty seamless, or whatever.
You're not having to worry aboutall the logistics of like
bringing in, you know, bathrooms, bringing in showers and even
food they always have, you knowwhoever's running vendors, or
yeah we bring in some vendorstoo, but they always have the
concession there, you know, Um.
So it's just been nice andpretty seamless.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Have y'all always had it a weekend festival, or did
it just start off being one dayand then turned into?
Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
hello?
Um, no, it's always been, uh, Ithink since the get go.
We did it Thursday throughSaturday, but it was, um, you
know, it was just smaller, itwas like a couple of acts each
night.
Now we're at the point whereit's basically like noon to
midnight every day, so fromThursday to Friday, or Thursday
to Saturday and then Sunday.
This year we're going to domusic from like noon to 3, 4 pm.
(04:39):
Oh nice, because there's alwayspeople hanging around anyway,
yeah, and they're just kind oflike nobody wants to go home yet
.
Right, it's like we'll have afew people just play during the
daylight hours, right there?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah so.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
We're good.
So pretty much from the momentyou get there Thursday at four
o'clock till four o'clock Sunday, there's just music all night
long and all day long.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
That's pretty cool.
A lot of a lot of people thathave figured out We've had it
for 10 years now and it's a lotof people will come in the
Wednesday before and stay tillMonday because they figured that
Sunday is just the rush to getback home, the rush to get out,
(05:17):
and it's kind of the day to havea little bit of R&R and relax
and hang over that extra Monday.
So that's in.
Hangover is kind of a key wordthere.
Yeah.
But, yeah, but is kind of akeyword there yeah but, yeah,
but it kind of gives, gives them.
So that's pretty cool that youguys added added music to that.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, cause I think like on Sundays you know, the
traffic on 35 has gotten sohorrendous, especially on a
Sunday going home everybody fromwherever they're at San.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Antonio.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Austin, wherever Um.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
so yeah, people just want to hang out and they
usually buy an extra night withmountain breeze and they'll even
stay in camp another night,which is just on their accord,
you know, during the day justgetting some music.
So about how many bands y'all?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
have.
Uh, I think this year it's likealmost you can guess.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I mean, I guess no no , it's almost 50.
I mean, I just called youwhatever.
I could have called you a lotof worse things, but we're just
yeah we're new.
We're new, new in ourfriendship.
I like I like.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I don't know, I like maybe that'll be my.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I did that, but then yes, I can, that'd be my,
that'll be my uh alter ego forfor the festival.
What time we want to kick offthe lance show?
We're about eight o'clock nine.
I have a friend, um, um, wellit's.
It's actually not a friend.
I mean, she is my friend.
She's like my daughter's, mydaughter's best friend, my
daughter-in-law's best friend,and she has a tattoo inside of
(06:31):
her lip that says tina, there'syeah shit yeah, tina, and I was
like what in the blue hill, why,yeah?
and it's, after a certain yeah,she turns into tina, and so she
went and yeah so I mean you saidyou got a tattoo artist.
If you turn into lance later ona festival, I expect to see you
(06:53):
getting a lance tattoosomewhere.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Well, I already.
I've got a, I've got a nickname, but I've got that same group,
that actually all the friendsthat took the time off.
Yeah, we all go to festivalstogether before we started this
one nice and we have, like ouralter ego, drunken names.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Mine was always banshee because I would we just
act like that I think lance isbetter fitting now because I
haven't been the banshee in along time.
More like a collar type beforeyou get to the banshee right,
right yeah, banshee's not good.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Banshee's like running around with clothes off
and stuff yeah, that would be merunning me, like you know, it's
on a pretty sight when I'mdoing it.
It's just like it's justterrible.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Just let him go.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Running through somebody's apartment complex
just banging on doors just forthe fun of it.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
This is going to be a good festival, you guys.
Let's talk about the dates.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
When the banshee comes out it's before Lance.
Yeah, right, yeah, we alwayscall her Stacy.
She'd get a little crazy.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Everybody knows about Stacy just because, yeah, it's
kind of like the Richards hungout for a while and then you got
the Karens and then, there'sthe Stacys and now there's the
Lances and yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
And I forget what they.
They gave her a new name.
She laid off the liquor andstarted the new CBD stuff these
days.
So now she's calm.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, she's a calmer.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Now they get.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Stacy.
Yeah, but they gave her a goodname.
I can't remember what it was.
So come in.
Yeah, it's going to be a goodtime.
Yeah, exactly, um, yeah, and wedo the.
We do the river stage too.
So, like at night, like aftermidnight, everybody kind of
dwindles down in there.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, it goes back to the acoustic acts and stuff.
It's a different vibe downthere on the water when we have
two stages at our place and it'sa.
It's a different vibe when guysplay up top versus down below,
just the acoustics different,the ambience is different and
yeah, it's really cool I'm surey'all get the same effect, like
from the water and the cliffside down there, and it just
there's no delay or reverb on it, it's just coming back, yeah
yeah, I have to kind of helpeverybody do sound and set up
speakers and stuff down there,because I know how it's going to
spin and go and if you've neverheard it or witnessed it or
(08:54):
whatever, it's a, it's a reallycool vibe, yeah, yeah yeah, or
it could totally throw you offas a sound.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, yeah, completely completely.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, we had a big group come out I think it was
early summer on and and um, theybrought a whole sound group and
and I kept telling them andthat guy was just like this
woman's really about to piss meoff- and then once they were
about two songs in.
He kind of looked at me like,yeah, okay, you've got it.
You get it.
Yeah, but it is, it's a totallydifferent, totally different
(09:22):
vibe down there right, yeah, sohow many?
Stages, you gonna, you guysgonna have so it comes up to
like four.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
We have like in the daytime there's a bar stage
inside the bar there at mountainbreeze so everybody could be in
the ac, get their food kind ofhang out with like a listening
room kind of vibe, you know, andthen the that's cool.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Which are gonna do that?
I know exactly what you'retalking about.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah, just everybody goes in there and it's like
you're still kind of recoveringfrom the night before you can
come in and get you a drink andget you some food and just sit
down and hang out in the A scene, because they got that now For
a long time they didn't, theydidn't, yep, but yeah.
So then, around three or fourevery day, it moves down to the
main stage area, which we have.
Two stages Basically kittycorner each other, so we can
(10:01):
just constantly be loading one,playing the other one, you know
nice and then around 10, 30 or11 at night is when everybody
the the band stop and we go downand we do like three or four
like premier acoustic kind ofsets or whatever and and uh,
yeah, so everybody, same thing,kind of a loose listening room,
right.
Like you get down there, it'snot, we're not, no one's gonna
(10:21):
tell you to shush, you know, butyeah, you just get it because
everyone else is quiet andeverybody's coming off their
buzz, you know, or whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah or whatever it is, yeah or whatever Just, and
everybody just really chills outand they're baying down by the
river.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
And then and then, yeah, this acoustic, the
campfire, and we still singsongs and play, but the party
starts kind of it's still aparty, but you know it kind of
kicks back up, or you go tosleep, one of the two.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
So yeah, it's, it's kind of.
It's kind of wild if you've notexperienced in in a smaller
festival, so to speak, but notreally a smaller festival, but
it does give them the likeyou're saying the listening room
vibe it kind of gives you thethe best of both worlds where
you can kind of you get the thebig festival vibe within it.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
It gives people that are staying and camping time to
have an intimate setting withyou guys and get to know more
about y'all and certainly, andthat kind of stuff yeah, and
even with like the headliners,I'm sure one day we'll have to
do it, but like, like we'restill small enough that like we
don't have barrier fences, wedon't.
You know I understand theimportance of like VIP for like
(11:29):
selling tickets and stuff, butwe've, we've tried to like keep
away from that and I want tocause it's just all even playing
field.
And yeah, like like last year,grady Spencer from the work is
standing like right there rightthere.
Anybody can.
Anybody can come up to him andtalk to him whether an artist or
a fan like I said, if we getbigger, I guess we'll have to do
.
Yeah, probably gonna have to dothat, but for now um, yeah, or
like all these up-and-comingsinger-songwriters that like,
(11:51):
yeah, yeah, you might make bestfriends with, uh, you know
somebody who just got started 10years from now gonna be huge,
yeah, but you can do that righthere and there, right.
And then there's all the folksthat are like, they just like to
pick and play, but, you know,don't even don't do it for a
career or whatever.
They can come and enjoythemselves too and get in all
the circles and play.
Um or other artists.
We always tell everybody whenthey submit to play.
(12:12):
It's like, you know, we canonly fit so many people, but
come down and just hang out,like, yeah, we've made our
tickets super affordable.
Um, you know, as far as we canlike, right, and it's like you
can come down and just get tomeet all these folks, get to
play, get to hang out and a lotof time playing around the
campfire.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Then you end up on the stage the next year yeah, so
what are the ticket prices orwhat are the options we can kind
of tell everybody so like uh,we'd have to pull it up to get
exact, but if I remember right,like a day pass is was good for
any day.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
You know most people do it for saturday, but it's 70.
That's all day.
For your camping as well, theweekend pass is, I think, $1.50,
right now $150, but includestent camping and then, like some
of the upgrades for that wouldbe an RV spot, it's like another
$150.
A cabin, which are almost soldout.
There's only like two or threeleft, gotcha.
They kind of range from likesto the 500s, depending on what
(13:03):
you're getting Right, and it'sall for the weekend.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Cool.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
We're not capable to sell them for like the day or
whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Right.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
So yeah, you know, but if you're just like an OG
festival, yeah Kind of goingperson, like I've always been
150 bucks gets you the entireweekend and your tent camping.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
That's a hell of a deal.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
You got real showers, real showers real bathrooms,
yeah you know, and it's buo b,so we're not forcing people to,
and I'd like to mention, um, ifthey do, if there is no more
cabins, gypsy river, sure,literally yeah a minute, maybe
down the road, and yeah, we'vegot y'all got shuttles too.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Huh, we do, we absolutely do, we have we will.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
We will run them back and forth.
We've got four bungalows thatare fully air conditioned um,
they're, yeah, literallyglamping tents.
You know where you can do that.
We've got four bungalows thatare fully air-conditioned um,
they're, yeah, literallyglamping tents.
You know where you can do that.
We've got cottages and we'vegot a big river house that
sleeps 11 comfortably.
We've had up to 21 in there,yeah so yeah, now that we uh,
like we talked- last time.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yeah, yeah, I can put a link there on our uh at this
point in the game.
I wouldn't worry about sellingon myself, but I'll just link it
, yeah, when we do sell out.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, just in case they do you know, I know a lot
of people ac is important intexas, especially this time of
year, right, and you don't knowwhat it's going to do.
But yeah, some of the guys froma couple of the other festivals
up and down, it's become areally cool thing in october.
Up and down river road herelately has been some really cool
festivals and so it's yeah it'sgood because we're all we're
not, we're not very far fromeach other.
(14:26):
So no, not at all.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yeah, yeah, we definitely.
Can you know?
We talked a few months ago, wewere still trying to fill
everything, but now it's likefilling up?
We definitely and that's mygoal.
Um, you know, I've told paulthat and then I think, yeah, we
did talk about it and that'ssuper exciting because, yeah,
get, get this thing as helpingmusicians and doing what we've
done on the music side, myhusband and I and then you guys.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
It's a really cool little vibe that I think would
be really, really cool.
Yeah, and the bigger the better, yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Where we get to the point where all the campgrounds
are kind of filled and you knowthere'll be one center place
where the music is happening.
But that'd be really cool.
That would be epic, at least afew within the, a few
campgrounds within the a fewcampgrounds right around
mountain breeze and stuff and weget to that point where yeah,
it's like October's this thatweekend is the whole river road.
looks like summertime, butthey're all coming to the
(15:10):
festival we get some hugeheadliners and stuff that would
be epic, yeah, but still feature.
Our whole kind of like ethos isfeaturing the up and coming and
like songwriters too, cause alot of time like songwriters
don't get invited to festivalsbecause they're amazing and
everybody loves them, but, likeyou know, festivals don't want
to risk that for like their bigcrowd, right, uh, so they bring
(15:31):
in the big bands and stuff wherewe've always, we're going to
always keep that going whereit's like songwriters some of
the bands, national touring actsthat are coming in and stuff.
But yeah yeah, we want thepeople that you know you find
under a rock and, yes, are goingto be big one day.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
That's pretty epic.
How did you start in the musicbusiness?
How did you start in the musicscene?
I guess like everybody in highschool, just trying to be cool,
or something because I wasn'tgood at sports and stuff, so not
running in the family.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
My granddad was kind of a championship-level fiddle
player but had a wife and familyand all that before the those
opportunities could have come tohim.
But in, yeah, belton, texas,like down in the grove, he was
very well known for his fiddleplaying and stuff.
And then my two sisters likeplay guitar and two of my three
sisters play guitar and sing andstuff like that, but yeah, uh
never really did much commerciallike that.
(16:21):
One of my sisters kind of gotback into it in her older years
and played with a few bands,also kind of built in austin
kind of scene, and then uh, butyeah, I mean for the most part,
you know my dad's a truck driver, my mom's a seamstress and I
just had to figure it out on myown.
I just knew I liked to writeand sing songs.
So nice, still figuring thatstill figuring it out the
singing part out yeah, I think Iwrite a pretty good song, most.
(16:42):
Of the time but uh but yeah,just been, uh, just kind of diy
and stay away so it's all comingtogether a little bit now,
that's cool.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I've talked to a lot of musicians.
I don't think I've heardanybody say a diy.
Yeah, as a musician, that's.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
That's kind of a cool little statement piece well, I
just mean in the sense that,like I you know, yeah, there was
nobody to really know.
We'll say hey, connect me tothis person or that person.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I've just kind of slowly trudged along and figured
it out piece by piece.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
That's kind of another reason we started the
festival.
It's like we'll just do our ownthing.
I always hear people in thescene that are and we all cry
about different things, but it'slike how do I get in with that
group, or how do I?
Get with that label or on thatfestival and by the time you've
heard about a scene or a group,it's too late.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
And not only is it too late, but it's really easy
for us to like, I don't know,kind of put an evil mark.
Oh, they don supported eachother.
They all put on shows and hadeach other on a, had festivals,
whatever.
And now you're just seeing itat the top and you think you
can't get in.
It's like, well, we're going todo our own thing, we're going
(17:52):
to, we all play together, we alldo shows together, we do this
festival together.
And it's like, and yeah, andone day the festival will sell
out and we're all sellouts, youknow.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
How have you guys found, like you were saying, the
musicians that are under therock, or how have you guys, how
have y'all brought these guys in?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
So, just like being well, this particular poster,
most of these guys aren't.
These are our headliners thisyear but, but yeah, but
everybody else, um, and noteverybody else is under a rock
either, but doing music, youknow.
So I'm out and I still, I'mstill active myself.
Got an album coming out infebruary and stuff, and just did
a few releases here recentlyand whatnot but just being out
(18:33):
playing open mics and playingall these little under the rock
kind of gigs, dive bars and suchyeah, and you just meet people
that you're like they're soamazing, and then you look at
their following, you look at alltheir stuff, you look at where
they're playing.
You're like that ain't right youknow yeah so going for broke
here to try to give people Icare about, and myself you know,
I play it too.
So it's not like it's.
(18:55):
It's not all selfless you knowyeah but um, but yeah, just
these people deserve somewhereto play and to be seen, you know
, and and to just feel like the,the feeling of a festival
playing a big stage and havinggood sound and like and getting
open for, like the desolonesscott blue you know these are
headliners this year, it's justlike I think it's a, it's an
(19:15):
opportunity that a lot of folksstill are working towards
getting you know.
So we just want to be that,that bridge, you know, I guess
bridge.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I think it's pretty cool.
I think it's pretty cool.
It's it's very similar to towhat we have done, you know,
helping, helping musicians alongthe way, and it's kind of
they've called me the music mamafor a long time, but it's kind
of like being the proud mamamoment where I get, you know,
watch them grow, watch themclimb and watch their wings
(19:44):
spread and fly and go and do,and it's really it's such a good
feeling.
So, I know you guys kind of Imean even you y'all yourselves
you know everybody startssomewhere.
You got to start at the bottomand crawl all the way up to the
top and sometimes you don't makeit, sometimes you fall,
Sometimes you fuck up and callpeople the wrong names and shit
and whatever, but you know I,I'm gonna come in hot with a
(20:11):
nice name tag for you thisweekend, I mean this weekend
particularly, yeah.
So if you only knew, I, Iliterally have a nickname for
everyone and it may not comeright out of the gate.
It may take a month, it maytake two months, it may take
five minutes, it may take, itmay just happen by accident, who
knows.
But yeah, it's kind of like mywhole vibe, yeah.
I have a gypsy scenario where Ijust make up my own words and
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so it's just part of myretard-ness, or whatever you
want to call it.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, call me anything you
want, I mean most of mynicknames have been.
Idiot asshole.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah, dumb, fuck yeah .
So I've been called a lot ofthose myself.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
So any nickname is fine, yeah, but yeah, it should
be a good year.
Um, it should be a good yeardown there and uh, and yeah, you
were telling me last time, youknow you're talking about like
supporting people too is yeah is, uh, it's fulfilling there, but
then it's like you know, itpays dividends too.
Or you told me about some uhyoung kid that's a guitar player
now and you ran into him, likein vegas or something yes, um we
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were, so he um that's gotta beso cool.
Oh my gosh it was crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
So um 11 or 12 at the time, maybe they're fine, he's,
you can't.
And um, yeah, I came down witha friend of ours, erock, and he
was staying um staying at theresort for about a month or so
and his and his son's friend andthe kids ended up hanging out
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with me the whole time and andhe was out here playing his
guitar and I mean he literallywas like a little little guy
right yeah, walking 11, 12,maybe walking jukebox.
there wasn't anything that youcould not throw at that kid,
that he could not play, and weput out a little beer bucket for
him and within a few hours hehad like $300.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Made more money than anybody else.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, I mean, any musician that plays for a living
had even thought about making.
Yeah, it was insane.
And then, yeah, we were down,yeah, maybe Nashville, maybe
Vegas at a show, and I don'teven know how we got in the
conversation my best friend'sthe drummer it was josh ward it
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was who was playing and, um, hesaid, man, you got to come check
out the steel guitar player.
And he walked up and I said,holy shit, and he goes.
Do you remember me?
I was like how could I everfreaking forget you?
My gosh, yeah, he's on the roadplaying steel guitar and just
slaying it and it is justamazing.
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I mean literally, I was just intears.
I was like look at this childand how did this ever happen?
And yeah, they ran into eachother and I think brooks
introduced him to josh and waslike yeah, he's 19 and he was
like you got to hear this kidplay and I was like y'all should
have heard him in 11.
Yeah, like what the hell?
I mean yeah, of course, at 19he's a freaking musical genius.
I mean he's just insane.
(23:02):
And yeah, he's just kicking assand taking names and on the
road with josh and just doingamazing.
But yeah he's so.
Yeah, very, that was a veryproud, proud really cool moment,
I think and yeah, it's amazing.
Yeah, there's been a lot ofreally cool songs, like you're
talking about songwriting, anddown by the river and up here at
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our place in our little circlethat we have up top, there's
been a lot of musicians thathave come and sat around up here
and wee hours in the morningand watch the sun come up and
have written some pretty amazingtunes, but it's pretty, it's a
pretty cool thing to witness.
So, yeah, if you guys don't knowabout this, um, this event
right here, this would be a goodtime to see some really amazing
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talent and things come tofruition.
And I one of the things thatI've really noticed, or air it a
lot of people don't get towitness in our little music
scene, in new bravos.
It's not little, it's actuallyrather ginormous, but these guys
, can you know, a guitar playercannot be able to play, or a
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drummer or whatever somebody inin in the group and they'll call
up another one and they canliterally just jump on stage and
just jump right in, just likethey've never even.
I mean, it's mind-boggling tome, literally, and you can just
watch them and they're watchingthe guitar, or the bassist is
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watching the drummer and thedrummer's watching the bass, and
it's like the next thing youknow.
They're just like what.
I mean, you don't even knoweach other's names and y'all are
just up here just slaying itlike it's.
It's really cool, vibe.
It's really cool.
To see how things like that canhappen and how you guys can
just the artistry and thetalents and can come together
and just make shit happen isjust mind-boggling oh yeah, it's
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, it's really really coolthere's.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
There's quite a bit of that um, with the jam is like
it's a lot of these songwritersthat we're picking up and and
uh, and I'll push them to belike hey, like I think I want
because I've seen them do like afull band show here there, but
they don't have an establishedband yet.
They just kind of had somepeople come in like hey I want
you to do like full band at thisfestival.
You know like you're yeah it's,it's time for you, you know
yeah I don't have this personother than give me a minute.
(25:11):
Let's start sending out textsall the different people are
playing and they say you know,like you know, there'll be one,
one drummer that's playing likethree different people.
That day, yeah be a guitarplayer popping in with a few
different bass player and thenlike send out a gear.
Like everybody brings all theirgear down and yeah yeah, you'll
have some guys show up you know, maybe just got started with
with his little bass amp orsomething they're like no, no,
get that out of here.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Like pull a big amp right like play on this, yeah
and so it's really it's.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
It's a community like we are a festival, I guess, by
definition, but it's really likethe community it is you know
and and like and it's such aunique one.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
It's such a cool family and such a cool vibe and
it's neat to be a part of thatand watch, watch how it comes,
comes together.
You mentioned the reed brothersand those are two, two kids.
I've watched from the beginningyeah go and yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah, they're pretty cool, I'm, I'm.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I'm still yet to meet them in person yet, but I've
been digging on their music andstuff, the sibling harmonies are
a real thing in those two and Idon't know who's all coming
with them, but I, I'm, I willknow them.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah, they're supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Oh yeah, it's going to be a good vibe, so yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
That's what.
Uh, yeah, the uh Alyssa thaty'all met, y'all just put it on
her and uh, reed Coles, they,yeah, they kind of this year.
I was like, and Sean Ryan, he'sat a San Marcus or whatever,
and I was like, hey, y'all giveme like a list of people you
know like, because I'm, I'malways in and out of here like
more, more of my.
My stomping grounds have beenlike central and north and west,
you know, and then like out ofstate, but, um, I've always been
like down in austin and whatnot, but the scene down there has
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always changed so much, yes, butdown here now, yeah, it's like
I want to be involved in here, Iwant to get some elder, but and
I'm starting to learn a- fewthings, but but yeah, just that
they were like the reed brothersshowed up on two of their three
lists, I was like okay that's agood one.
I looked him up I'm like, ohyeah, they're legit, yeah, I was
like we'll just, we'll justheadline them, yeah so they're
headlining thursday.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Well, I think that's really smart that you brought um
for a thursday crowd, that youbrought one of our local sets
from here.
That is extreme there.
Everybody in town knows thereed brothers and whoever
they're going to have up therewith them, full band whether
it's I mean, if I could name alist a mile long, but they're,
they'll draw, they'll draw asolid crowd and we'll make sure
we'll share it and blast it andlet everybody know that that the
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boys are in town, so and theywere playing a good local gig
and down out here, so it'll begood the same night we've got
high water gamble and ghostdance band.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
They're both like in the same kind of vibes and
they've been with us for a longtime.
Nice, um, they're out ofoklahoma and then down here in
texas, so I think'd be a good.
It starts to be kind of alittle more like a little more
rock kind of feel, feel, vibe,yeah, yeah.
It'll be good.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, I've got a little group that I set up a
long time ago Um golly, maybeback in 2014 and it's called
starving artist.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
And it was yeah, it was just a yeah, it was just a
we.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
we created Um and it was to to take.
I mean, that was a long timeago, it was almost 10 years ago,
and we put it together to reachout to musicians and let them
know.
Hey, you know, we just boughtour place on the river and, you
know, we in the music scene andwe want to take you guys that
are under the rock or the youngscene and we want to take you
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guys that are under the rock orthe young high school kids or
the whatever's and and um andintroduce them to people.
And I, like I've told so manymusicians that do come and play
at our place you have toremember y'all could play at our
places on river road everysingle weekend and you'd have a
different crowd every singleweekend and so when you guys go,
they go back home to Houston orCorpus or Dallas or wherever
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they come from, East Texas, westTexas, and they hear and see
you guys.
They're going to be like, hey, Iheard these guys at Gypsy River
one weekend, blah, blah, blah.
So they can, you know they'llfollow you out.
But it's, you know, a lot ofpeople don't think about that,
when you could literally be ahouse band on the river and have
a different crowd every singleweekend.
But it's, yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
That's kind of the same thing.
Like Austin and Fort Worth, youcan play that residency.
I'm not really a Stockyardsband, but a lot of the guys that
do that yes.
I've been down there before andthey go all right, everybody
yell.
If you're from Fort Worth, it'slike woo Yell.
If you're from Texas, woo, it'slike all right, who's traveled
in?
Speaker 1 (29:21):
And the whole crowd, the whole place goes insane.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
So you're getting like a nationwide crowd.
Yeah, same thing with you guys.
Everybody comes down here toflow, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yep, talk about being a starving artist and being a.
And just starting from theground up, you know, I did Fall
Fest at my resort for five years, I believe, and I discontinued
it.
At the time that I started itit was there was nothing in town
(29:49):
.
I had some friends, renee andSteve Trevino and they came into
town and at the time Garrettwas like six months old and she
was like where do I take him forsix months old?
And she was like there's, wheredo I take him for a pumpkin
patch?
And I was like you know what?
We used to have them on everycorner and we didn't.
And so I literally threwtogether in two weeks this huge
pumpkin patch and that was myinspiration behind that.
(30:10):
And then now they're on everycorner and I can't compete with
them, and so and and um, so Idon't, but even we would park
people at mountain breezeseveral years and yeah, we all
doing it like five years ago,still roughly.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Yeah, that's when I started it.
Cause, cause, yeah, I remembernothing about this.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Yeah, I remember during there.
Yeah, yeah, during during ourfestival.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Yeah, I remember the up there Cause before soggy came
in that was an empty field andthose trailers were coming in
and out with the hay bales?
Speaker 1 (30:41):
and stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah, that was us.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
People were waiting there to get on the ride.
Yeah, that would have been likeI think that was our year one
or two.
Yeah, Right.
So, we were still just kind oflike all right, what the?
Speaker 2 (30:49):
hell, we're just asking our friends to doing
nothing.
Yeah, it wasn't until 2022.
We brought in the damn quails.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
And then like so last year.
I'm trying to like he's a goodfriend of mine.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Yeah, he's good people, such a good dude.
My idea is, like every otheryear do like a songwriter
retreat one year.
Right and a Jam Down the River,song retreat, and then the next
year be a festival.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
So we be a fly on the wall with like scheduled
catering and like canoe.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
So it's more like for us songwriters to enjoy
ourselves.
Yeah, and then saturday do abig show, you know?
Speaker 2 (31:22):
yeah, I know there's a couple of them that, like rio
and a bunch of the boys, go toreed brothers, and what have you
that they go to?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
um, yeah the reasoning for it would just be
like to kind of instill anexcuse for all of us to get
together and then yeah, and alsodoing it in that structure and
be set up where we couldhopefully get it all sponsored,
or it's like all right, you knowthis is instead of a payout
deal, it's like pay in and youknow we've done all the math and
it's like hundred dollars aperson, but you're gonna have a
cabin, you're gonna get fed twotimes a day.
(31:50):
I'm gonna go on these trips andwe'll have media.
There there'll be video cameras, you know, just kind of like a
whole weekend of just enjoyingeach other and like having promo
and then do a show at the end.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
I think that would be a really cool vibe down here,
especially with the ever justmany musicians and and that are
all here and that want to behere, and yeah, you know, with
all your animals around here.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Oh yeah, I could literally go nuts with this
whole thing.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
I could really, yeah, especially if you guys did you
know the singer, songwriter, orjust to incorporate extra little
things that that nobody, thatnobody has.
You know, I've always, um, beenthe strange bird, been the
different, been the differentone, and and um, if I have too
much time to think, I can't doit.
(32:36):
But if you throw something likethis at me two weeks prior to
and say, hey, you want to shit afestival, I'll be like let's
shit a festival, let's freakingdo this.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yeah, I'm kind of the same way.
Yeah, I mean I've been forcedto plan all this stuff ahead of
time, but yeah, right, when Ihave the whole year to fest run,
it almost like it drives menuts I can't, I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
I I was talking to Renee Trevino and they, um, her
husband's a big comedian andshe's got her her shows and
stuff that she does and andshe's so a planner Like it's
gotta be, and I'm thinking Iwould lose my ever loving mind.
There is no way I would goinsane.
I would like.
(33:16):
I just can't.
I'm currently doing that, yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yeah, I literally would, I would, I would just be
no, I there's just no.
But yeah, Two weeks prior to.
Yeah, I won't sleep for twoweeks and I'll get it, but it'll
be.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Yeah.
I'm kind of a procrastinatingcram kind of person.
So with this, unfortunatelythere's like pieces and you know
you run business- there'scertain pieces that just have to
get that you have to do so it'slike everything's on schedule,
everything's going right.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
But like that's what I push off to that person that
yeah to my nick, I push nick.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
This is the one that we need to know in 2025.
Yes, on june the 12th at fouro'clock, we need to have this
set up and she'll.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yeah, that's what I was just talking to her about
yeah, I've got a.
I've got a new a and r agent Ijust hired and she was like you
need like an assistant and I'mlike I do, I can't afford one.
Yeah, I was like I'm like nowyou make this record go and we
might start making some money,then I'll get an assistant yeah
yeah but like, but yeah, I feel,I feel that, like that would be
, I'd be, that's what thefestival, the list, and then,
(34:15):
like I've slowly, right set thatup, you know, and but still
it's like I, you know they're,they're more than willing to
help me and do a lot of stuff,but it's also like I feel guilty
.
It's like I want to, and withthe artists too, like I want to
pay everybody.
I want to, I want to have abusiness that's like profitable
and like it's going, which maybethat's my own, like you know,
just a me thing that I can'tstand anybody helping me or
(34:36):
whatever, but they're happy todo it, I'm happy to have all
their help, you know.
But yeah, that'd be nice to getto that point where it's like
festival has a whole crewrunning it and I just show up,
just show up and theneverything's done, everything's
everything's handled.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
That would be epic, but I'm going to just let you
know that that will never happen.
If you're anything like me, youjust know well I'll be involved
.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I want to be involved , but yeah, I'll be the one I'm
the one that walks up and goes.
Thanks for your help but okay,now we can begin right, but
still they carried it in thereand put it down and then you get
to come in and adjust it yeah,yes, that's.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
I have a really hard time with um coming in and and
taking over things and I don'tknow if that's a good thing or a
bad thing.
A lot of people appreciate it.
A lot of times I don't realizeI'm doing it.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Yeah, I can be the same way I was, like last year
we had.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Don't be surprised if I just jump in and help at your
gig, I'll take it.
Fixing the rugs on the stage,making sure your cords are where
they need to go.
I have trips and falls.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
I literally just got to that point.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
I fall all the time.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
So yeah, yeah, last year we had uh um Dan Green
Greenlee, he's a, he's avolunteers at all kinds of
festivals like old settlers,kerrville and stuff Like he's
just in that world and he, uh he.
He saw our post about uhvolunteering cause he wanted to
see John Fulbright.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
So he's like all right, I'll be there.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
And he shows up and uh, and yeah, last year I was
only able to get like a fewvolunteers and stuff and then a
few friend volunteers with that,but so we had like our official
meeting every morning and wentover everything and then
everything that I said I was notgoing to do and that they were
going to do, then I'm over theredoing it with them and there
was this.
There was this tent thing thatwe bought and it's the first
time they're like a big, bigpipes and like, yeah, you know,
it's pretty big, it's like 16 by16, pretty big tent, and I'm
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over there like messing with it.
I'm like, oh, you put this here, this here, and and I was so
happy to like have him.
Cause I mean he's I mean he's anold gentleman like he's been
doing this a long time and helike yelled at me and he was
like he's like you go do, he'slike you need to have other
stuff too.
He's like we got this.
(36:35):
He's like yeah, I've seen thisa million times.
He's like and, and and.
He's like he's like all thesepeople here want you to tell
them what to do, and I'm likethat doesn't feel right.
And he's like they, they, theydon't like it that there's no
direction Right.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
It's getting paid and it feels different and it's
like but what it took him like,he kind of shook me up last year
.
I was like, okay, do this, youdo that.
And they were all super happyto be like because they my kids
are that way, the ones that haveworked with me for a very long
time.
Polo runs my resort down thereand he grew up with my middle
son and that kid is one he willput my ass in check.
That I mean I need, because ifnot he's like, would you just
stop?
I know I've been doing, I'vebeen putting up this fucking
canopy for the last.
Every time we do anything I'vegot, yeah, and can do it with
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his hands tied, but he's, he'sbeen with me so long that he
knows enough to where.
Yeah, I might shed one tear, Idon't know, maybe two, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
I mean, I enjoyed it, but sometimes it takes somebody
to just go put your ass incheck.
There's definitely a percentageof it that's like micromanaging
, but then there's a biggerpercentage.
I just feel so guilty.
Yeah, I just can't.
I'm like, oh, I need to helpyou do it, or I need to do that.
That's me.
Or hey, I can't watch you mopthe floor here.
Let me, Let me help you withthat.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
That's neat.
Meg's seen me do things.
She's like I cannot believeyou're doing this right now and
I'm like, oh yeah, I mean,there's nothing, I won't jump in
there and do yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
So that's what it turns out that way.
But yeah, I was very happy tohave Dan.
I mean his help physically.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
But then, like on the I guess the whatever on that
side of things too, just be likealmost like the admin side.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
He's like go run, go run your festival yeah, I was
like, oh, you're right, okay,cool.
And then went and did all mystuff and yeah, and then he
would come find me.
He's like all right, we're donehere.
Like what's next cool, so he'scoming back this year so I'm
very happy about that.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
I can't wait to meet him we got a decent size
volunteer crew this year.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
So that's awesome so yeah, I'm ready to be like, see
this stuff, it needs to go uphere and all this stuff and we
and I was.
Another thing that I learnedlast year with those volunteers
was, you know, I kind of neededto be there, cause I didn't know
how it was set up or where toput it so last year I took
pictures of everything and nowit's like okay, so here's the
stage is how we normally set itup, like here's roughly where we
set it up and you know this goand then they can reference that
(38:54):
and just do it on their ownyeah
Speaker 2 (38:56):
or I can stand there and orchestrate too, but or you
can do both yeah, yeah or youcan just let dan handle it.
You can sit down and have coldbeer.
Yeah, pretty sure dan's got itunder control.
I have.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
I have made a promise to myself, like last year was
supposed to be the year, butthis year alissa.
So she's gonna.
She's always helped out, butlike this year she's acting gm
and like then I got sean ryanstage.
You know, stage managementbetween the two of them it's
like all right, my, my goal isto like I'm going to be a little
.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
I'm going to be a little drunky poo over there
myself.
Step back a little bit, yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Nice, yeah, and just like you guys know what to do
and I'll be right there.
It's not a huge festival.
It's not like I'm going to behidden, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
I'll in the resort side.
Like I said, we've had it for10 years and it's taken me.
We have a lot of regulars thatcome.
They book a year.
We've now let them to wherethey're booking two years in
advance.
It's taken me a long time onSaturday nights because we have
live music every weekend at myplace and to sit back and leave
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on a Saturday night and not bethere to control the riffraff or
to maintain the bar or to makesure that the sound is good or
to make sure.
And these kids have been withme for a long time, so it's
still it's.
I've gotten much better at it,a lot better at it, but it's
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still there.
It's still there where I'mthinking, Nope, I'm not going to
do it.
And then I turn around andthere I am.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Yeah, but right behind the bar or whatever.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Seriously, I do and I love it.
Y'all need more ice Y'all needto load up your bar back in I am
.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
I do it.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
I do it all I love it and I do, and I love our
clientele and I love ourcustomers and and yeah, if I'm
not there when they get there, Iget it, and that's and that's
why I keep doing it, becausethey're like where are you at,
why aren't you here, where areyou?
We've been waiting for yousince Friday and blah, blah,
blah and yeah, with with usdoing the podcast now and and so
many other things, there's justI.
(40:52):
I will literally just be thereon Saturdays and it it's really
cool because so many of themhave my cell and sometimes
that's good.
Sometimes you're like what inthe actual hell?
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Yeah, but yeah, that's what we put out, all this
correspondence with, like theartists and they're.
The thing is, they're all mylike, you know, except for like
the headliners, which hopefullybecome my friends too, but like
it's, it's like most of thepeople I know on a super
personal basis.
So it's like I think they'refinally, they're finally
catching on.
But, uh, because I've had toexplain to them, you know, it's
like they show up and instead ofhitting up the stage manager or
(41:26):
hitting up the gm, as we'veinstructed, they personally they
texted me like hey, I just gothere, where do I go?
What do I do?
I'm like I got 50 of y'allsending me the same text, and
then I got friends that arecoming.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
I got families coming the campgrounds texting me hey,
and like you just want tofigure it out your phone in the
freaking river, yeah we havepeople show up at the resort all
the time and they'll pull upand go.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Can you tell tiffany I'm here and they know now, like
if they even say that yeah yeah, just to charge them extra.
Yeah, don't tell them to godown somewhere else.
I don't want to hear it, Idon't.
And and they know they.
Yeah, no, she said I could.
No, she didn't.
No, we know her way better thanthat.
She did not say that.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
She did not.
I'm fortunate.
I'm fortunate, but I haven'tgotten into that yet.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
but yeah, oh it's coming, no it happens in
different ways.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
You know where, you know people and I don't know.
I I'm not ill-willed towardsanything like that, but you know
it's.
I was running a business likeoh, can you help me here?
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Yeah, it's hard.
It's hard to put your foot down, it's hard to say no.
It's like I want you all to behere for free, but which?
Goes back to that Like andwe're doing all right, it's,
it's, definitely it's, it'sgrowing.
I got a nice bubble gum machine.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
It might come unglued .
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Maybe Lance might, maybe Banshee might, but I don't
know.
No, we won't do that.
We won't do that.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
I'm just kidding, see , I'm going to have to come up
with a name for you.
I think I should order some ofthem.
It's on the little high.
My name is whatever.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Put them at the front gate as they come in and check
in, yeah, first time in yeah,that's kind of a cool vibe.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
I don't know that I've ever been to a festival
where they just name you rightwhen you get your here's your
wristband and here's yourweekend name.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
Yeah, yeah, here's who you are.
Now you can take it off onSunday, before you leave.
Yeah, yeah, before you hit theoffice on Monday, at least the
OGs like burning bands, like thewhole idea was to take your
stuff out there and like burnwhatever you wanted to leave
behind.
Oh yeah, and we kind of do thatsame kind of ethos of like you
get a new name when you come outhere.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
You can be a totally different person Leave the name
when you're out, and then youcan go back to your real life.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Yes, that'd be a good , a good concept.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
You're welcome.
You're absolutely, absolutelywelcome.
I love when my fuck-ups justturn into something creative,
which is kind of like the storyof my life.
Oh, did you run over that?
I think I just hang that on thewall, beautiful, yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Yeah, it's a little paint on it something, yeah
that's, like you know, shakygraves that's where he got his
name from uh, hanging out at oldsettlers festival, I believe,
is where he tells he's in hisstory, says a festival, but I'm
pretty sure it was old settlersbecause he was one of those ogs
out there, yeah, but yeah,apparently you know him and his
friends were, all you know,inebriated high whatever just
giving each other funny namesand his was shaky graves, and
(44:08):
now it's like everybody knowsyeah, what started is some goofy
around a campfire.
I know, and I think I have thatright.
Don't fact check me, though.
It's better.
My story is way better I likeit.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
I think, if it's not, they should just run with it,
let's go with it.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
Stick that on reddit, or whatever it is, yeah it's a
conspiracy, we'll just start,let's run with it, but I think I
think that's the backstorybehind it.
But and yeah, festivals ingeneral, like it's just, I've
spent a lot of you know nowrunning this one.
I don't go to as many becauseit's a lot of focus on this but
but yeah, I used to and stillget get out to quite a few, but
like I love it.
(44:41):
You know there's nothing betterthan like a good festival and I
camp in your friends and youget dirty and stinky.
Then you go home and wash allyour sins away and it's kind of
like a reset it is.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
So now that we're doing one, it's pretty happy to
I like the going one year andgoing the next year and kind of
I like to watch, watch them growand the improvements and the
changes, and you know I like towatch things evolve like that.
So I think that's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Or maybe it gets really big andwe'll have the next Coachella
on River Road.
Hey, you know I'm down for that, yeah, as long as we have the
bathroom situation and thatunder control, I'm good for that
.
Seriously, once you get intothe big numbers, you know you
get into the 20, 30,000, 60,000people at a festival.
It's serious business.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
My very first concert I went to was Jimmy Buffett and
I almost went to jail alongwith several others.
But the bathroom situation wasso bad that people were putting
up blankets, because it was oneof those where you take and
(45:45):
peeing behind them.
And so they came and literallypulled down and I was the one
peeing behind the blanket.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
But I mean, of course I was yeah, but you came on
glued.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Yeah, and I was like they were like knock it off, but
I mean good Lord.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
What are we supposed to do?
What are you?
Speaker 2 (45:59):
supposed to do.
And, and I mean those arethings that you think if you're
going to have a festival with 60000 people, or however many it
was, you know um, you're gonnahave to think that there's a
couple, two, three turlets arenot going to be.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
That's not going to manage the situation I mean well
that walk around, start pissingthemselves like yeah, they got
whole companies that are just incrowd control and stuff and
like you get that big, you'vegot to, you got to have plans
and stuff or you better expectchaos yeah, that's what we've
better expect the quiltedbathrooms, right yeah so, if
chaos does break out, we stillhave the facilities for it, we
(46:33):
have the employees for it, wehave whatever we need.
You know, right opposed to justlike cool, we're gonna make
hundreds of thousands of dollars, but that was one concept that,
when zero fest started thatthat was their concept was to.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
They had the space for a certain amount of tickets
and they said from day one theywould only yeah they would cap
it out at this, because theynever wanted to be that well too
.
It's a totally different vibe.
I mean, it starts off, you know, at the amphitheater, but then
and now they've got differentstages in the place and so, yeah
, they've, they've it's.
It has gotten very big but theyhave changed it up a wee bit
(47:07):
and you're gonna, you're gonnasee some musicians and you're
gonna miss most but it.
But you've set up your lineup,how you want to go and do what
most do.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
It's the experience, like I mean, that's what we're
ultimately.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
I mean for us, us artists, it's like a lot of
money to go see you guys and godo this and you want them to see
experience.
That's what you're I mean well,I'm glad you came.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Dustin and Lance, yeah, and then we're going to
see Banshee.
So and if y'all need to.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
Hopefully no Banshee.
You don't want to see Banshee.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Shut.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Saturday at 4 o'clock in the morning, okay, so.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Saturday 4 am Still got to get a ticket to get in.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Yeah.
So in a jam down by the river,Mountain Breeze, new Braunfels,
texas, on River Road, we will belike sharing, following posting
all the things.
Links Reed Brothers, local guysin New Braunfels.
You guys come and see them onThursday nights.
It's definitely worth the money.
It is worth it.
Yeah, there's cabins availableat mountain breeze tent camping,
(48:03):
rv spots.
We also, if they are booked,you're, you're welcome to come
to our place, gypsy river resort.
We'll also put a link on there.
We've got cabins, we've gotbungalows, we've got a river
house, we have RV spots, we havetent spots, showers, all the
things.
Yeah, yeah.
So send them your way.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
It is I think we have like two left.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Yeah, they'll probably be.
I'll link you on the site,we'll send them down your way.
Yeah, and we'll shuttle youguys back and forth.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
We're literally within walking distance, it's
not hard, but yeah, yeah, causethey can walk the river too,
right, yeah, they don't evenhave to get out on the road.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Well, if they go through the river and there's a
bunch of private property, Ithought there was that road that
connected everybody.
No, you don't want to do that.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
We'll shovel, we'll shovel.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
I'll take you in the golf cart myself.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
There you go, there you go, and I'll have my Jenny
out there.
We'll be running around.
So we've got plenty of golfcarts too, so but, yeah, it's
going to be a good time.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
Thanks for coming.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
And we are definitely doing the behind.
My name is.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
Yeah, yeah, I'll get some stickers made up yeah, and
I'll come up with the name foryou.
I'm gonna be good, it's gonnabe good.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
I like surprises.
It's gonna be a good time.
Yeah, october 17th through the20th 2024 this in a couple weeks
mountain breeze, new brunfels,texas, on the gawad.
Yeah, it's gonna be a good time.
Thanks for coming, thank yousee y'all there.
I put a blessing on it to real.
That's the metaphoric.
We just put the I in iconicbuzzin' like I'm electronic hey
everybody, I'm Tiffany Foy.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Welcome to the Ramblin' Gypsy podcast.
Today we are back in myshe-shed and we have a very
special guest.
This is Lance that we are goingto um no.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
No, Dustin, Dustin, Dustin.
Where'd I get?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Lance from I don't know.
I thought you said.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
I thought you said it was lance you know, since I cut
all my hair off, I look like alance.
Well hey everybody meet.
Dustin and lance, yeah you knowI like to get everybody a good
name.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I'm in my lance area.
I swore that you texted me thatearlier when I said we have two
people showing up and alissacan't make it.
Oh I don't know, it's been along morning.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
You said Dustin.
Earlier, though, I think, did I.
I think, or maybe you saidDustin.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I don't know.
I had a 30-minute bloody noseto start off my day, amongst
everything else.
So, anyways, now, alyssa, thisis Dustin, right, and I'm
Tiffany, in case y'all don'tknow, and in case I don't know
or I forgot, so you are doing,you're musically inclined and
doing some music things up anddown River Road, which is where
(01:11):
we are in New Braunfels.
Yeah, tell us about it yeah,how it got started the festival.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Yeah, we've been doing this, is it?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
It's called In a Jam Down by the River.
Yeah, maybe I can get thatstraight and not fuck that up.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
No, it's all good.
Why is the name Hintz?
You know, it's like kind of acallback to the Chris Farley bit
and stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Because the first year was kind of a joke.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
And yeah, we all just got together because we had
nothing else going on, kind ofthing.
And then, yeah, they're like,well, that was fun, let's do it
again, do it again, and now it'sa full on thing with a very
long name and a very longcom,you know, but uh, so was it just
a group of friends of y'all'sjust decided y'all go camping
one weekend?
Yeah, no, we, um, you know weweren't taking a stance or
(01:53):
anything like that, just preface.
But it was like 2020, towardsthe end of it, and uh, you know,
everything got canceled andpushed out and me and all my
musician friends and stuff thatwe'd all been rehearsing and
playing together anyway, andfriends like that.
And then we had friends whowere non-musician, who had taken
off work for a festival.
Then it got pushed to Octoberand then it got canceled
completely.
So they were like, well, wehave time off, and then on REM,
(02:15):
it's like we don't have any gigs, like you know.
So it was just a couple of usor whatever.
It got together more or lesslike a camping weekend and we
put on a show and then the nextyear like, hey, you want to do
it again and where are you guysall from?
kind of all over texas all over.
Yeah, just some kind of in likethe songwriter community or
whatever.
Yeah, just in the broader allover texas, right, um, and we
(02:35):
really just came down here forthe river and just for the
setting in october.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
It's just so beautiful it is kind of empty
down here and the weather'sstarting to change, right?
Yeah, starting to change, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
But yeah, like now that we've done it here a few
years, we've been bringing inmore local people and stuff like
that.
We've got the Reed Brotherscoming out this year.
The Rough Stock have been withus a couple years, people like
that, you know, and now thatwe're kind of part of the
community, it's like let'speople all the way from coming
in from Louisiana, alabama, allthe way from North Texas, west
(03:05):
Texas, east Texas and abroad,nice.
Oh, and we have a gal from theUK come this year Really.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, did you hear that?
Yeah, shout out to our girlover here.
Yeah, yep, yep, that's nice,that's awesome, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
A little bit of everything.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
How long have y'all been doing this?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Fifth year.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Fifth year and it's been a mountain breeze every
time.
Yeah, nice.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, they've worked with us.
Oh, it's such a good dude.
Yeah, yeah, he kind of sets upand lets you guys accommodate
and makes it an easy flow andit's a nice big area, yeah, with
the thing that they're easy towork with, and then the showers
and the grounds, and we gotcabins, we got RV spaces and we
(03:49):
can.
Your ticket just includes tentcamping or car camping, whatever
you're going to end up doing,you know, um, that's made it
pretty seamless, or whatever.
You're not having to worry aboutall the logistics of like
bringing in, you know, bathrooms, bringing in showers and even
food they always have, you knowwhoever's running vendors, or
yeah we bring in some vendorstoo, but they always have the
concession there, you know, Um.
So it's just been nice andpretty seamless.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Have y'all always had it a weekend festival, or did
it just start off being one dayand then turned into?
Oh?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
hello?
Um, no, it's always been, uh, Ithink since the get go.
We did it Thursday throughSaturday, but it was, um, you
know, it was just smaller, itwas like a couple of acts each
night.
Now we're at the point whereit's basically like noon to
midnight every day, so fromThursday to Friday, or Thursday
to Saturday and then Sunday.
This year we're going to domusic from like noon to 3, 4 pm.
(04:39):
Oh nice, because there's alwayspeople hanging around anyway,
yeah, and they're just kind oflike nobody wants to go home yet
.
Right, it's like we'll have afew people just play during the
daylight hours, right there?
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah so.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
We're good.
So pretty much from the momentyou get there Thursday at four
o'clock till four o'clock Sunday, there's just music all night
long and all day long.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
That's pretty cool.
A lot of a lot of people thathave figured out We've had it
for 10 years now and it's a lotof people will come in the
Wednesday before and stay tillMonday because they figured that
Sunday is just the rush to getback home, the rush to get out,
(05:17):
and it's kind of the day to havea little bit of R&R and relax
and hang over that extra Monday.
So that's in.
Hangover is kind of a key wordthere.
Yeah.
But, yeah, but is kind of akeyword there yeah but, yeah,
but it kind of gives, gives them.
So that's pretty cool that youguys added added music to that.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Yeah, cause I think like on Sundays you know, the
traffic on 35 has gotten sohorrendous, especially on a
Sunday going home everybody fromwherever they're at San.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Antonio.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Austin, wherever Um.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
so yeah, people just want to hang out and they
usually buy an extra night withmountain breeze and they'll even
stay in camp another night,which is just on their accord,
you know, during the day justgetting some music.
So about how many bands y'all?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
have.
Uh, I think this year it's likealmost you can guess.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I mean, I guess no no , it's almost 50.
I mean, I just called youwhatever.
I could have called you a lotof worse things, but we're just
yeah we're new.
We're new, new in ourfriendship.
I like I like.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I don't know, I like maybe that'll be my.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I did that, but then yes, I can, that'd be my,
that'll be my uh alter ego forfor the festival.
What time we want to kick offthe lance show?
We're about eight o'clock nine.
I have a friend, um, um, wellit's.
It's actually not a friend.
I mean, she is my friend.
She's like my daughter's, mydaughter's best friend, my
daughter-in-law's best friend,and she has a tattoo inside of
(06:31):
her lip that says tina, there'syeah shit yeah, tina, and I was
like what in the blue hill, why,yeah?
and it's, after a certain yeah,she turns into tina, and so she
went and yeah so I mean you saidyou got a tattoo artist.
If you turn into lance later ona festival, I expect to see you
(06:53):
getting a lance tattoosomewhere.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Well, I already.
I've got a, I've got a nickname, but I've got that same group,
that actually all the friendsthat took the time off.
Yeah, we all go to festivalstogether before we started this
one nice and we have, like ouralter ego, drunken names.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Mine was always banshee because I would we just
act like that I think lance isbetter fitting now because I
haven't been the banshee in along time.
More like a collar type beforeyou get to the banshee right,
right yeah, banshee's not good.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Banshee's like running around with clothes off
and stuff yeah, that would be merunning me, like you know, it's
on a pretty sight when I'mdoing it.
It's just like it's justterrible.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Just let him go.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Running through somebody's apartment complex
just banging on doors just forthe fun of it.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
This is going to be a good festival, you guys.
Let's talk about the dates.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
When the banshee comes out it's before Lance.
Yeah, right, yeah, we alwayscall her Stacy.
She'd get a little crazy.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Everybody knows about Stacy just because, yeah, it's
kind of like the Richards hungout for a while and then you got
the Karens and then, there'sthe Stacys and now there's the
Lances and yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
And I forget what they.
They gave her a new name.
She laid off the liquor andstarted the new CBD stuff these
days.
So now she's calm.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, she's a calmer.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Now they get.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Stacy.
Yeah, but they gave her a goodname.
I can't remember what it was.
So come in.
Yeah, it's going to be a goodtime.
Yeah, exactly, um, yeah, and wedo the.
We do the river stage too.
So, like at night, like aftermidnight, everybody kind of
dwindles down in there.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Yeah, it goes back to the acoustic acts and stuff.
It's a different vibe downthere on the water when we have
two stages at our place and it'sa.
It's a different vibe when guysplay up top versus down below,
just the acoustics different,the ambience is different and
yeah, it's really cool I'm surey'all get the same effect, like
from the water and the cliffside down there, and it just
there's no delay or reverb on it, it's just coming back, yeah
yeah, I have to kind of helpeverybody do sound and set up
speakers and stuff down there,because I know how it's going to
spin and go and if you've neverheard it or witnessed it or
(08:54):
whatever, it's a, it's a reallycool vibe, yeah, yeah yeah, or
it could totally throw you offas a sound.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Yeah, yeah, completely completely.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, we had a big group come out I think it was
early summer on and and um, theybrought a whole sound group and
and I kept telling them andthat guy was just like this
woman's really about to piss meoff- and then once they were
about two songs in.
He kind of looked at me like,yeah, okay, you've got it.
You get it.
Yeah, but it is, it's a totallydifferent, totally different
(09:22):
vibe down there right, yeah, sohow many?
Stages, you gonna, you guysgonna have so it comes up to
like four.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
We have like in the daytime there's a bar stage
inside the bar there at mountainbreeze so everybody could be in
the ac, get their food kind ofhang out with like a listening
room kind of vibe, you know, andthen the that's cool.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Which are gonna do that?
I know exactly what you'retalking about.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yeah, just everybody goes in there and it's like
you're still kind of recoveringfrom the night before you can
come in and get you a drink andget you some food and just sit
down and hang out in the A scene, because they got that now For
a long time they didn't, theydidn't, yep, but yeah.
So then, around three or fourevery day, it moves down to the
main stage area, which we have.
Two stages Basically kittycorner each other, so we can
(10:01):
just constantly be loading one,playing the other one, you know
nice and then around 10, 30 or11 at night is when everybody
the the band stop and we go downand we do like three or four
like premier acoustic kind ofsets or whatever and and uh,
yeah, so everybody, same thing,kind of a loose listening room,
right.
Like you get down there, it'snot, we're not, no one's gonna
(10:21):
tell you to shush, you know, butyeah, you just get it because
everyone else is quiet andeverybody's coming off their
buzz, you know, or whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah or whatever it is, yeah or whatever Just, and
everybody just really chills outand they're baying down by the
river.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
And then and then, yeah, this acoustic, the
campfire, and we still singsongs and play, but the party
starts kind of it's still aparty, but you know it kind of
kicks back up, or you go tosleep, one of the two.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
So yeah, it's, it's kind of.
It's kind of wild if you've notexperienced in in a smaller
festival, so to speak, but notreally a smaller festival, but
it does give them the likeyou're saying the listening room
vibe it kind of gives you thethe best of both worlds where
you can kind of you get the thebig festival vibe within it.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
It gives people that are staying and camping time to
have an intimate setting withyou guys and get to know more
about y'all and certainly, andthat kind of stuff yeah, and
even with like the headliners,I'm sure one day we'll have to
do it, but like, like we'restill small enough that like we
don't have barrier fences, wedon't.
You know I understand theimportance of like VIP for like
(11:29):
selling tickets and stuff, butwe've, we've tried to like keep
away from that and I want tocause it's just all even playing
field.
And yeah, like like last year,grady Spencer from the work is
standing like right there rightthere.
Anybody can.
Anybody can come up to him andtalk to him whether an artist or
a fan like I said, if we getbigger, I guess we'll have to do
.
Yeah, probably gonna have to dothat, but for now um, yeah, or
like all these up-and-comingsinger-songwriters that like,
(11:51):
yeah, yeah, you might make bestfriends with, uh, you know
somebody who just got started 10years from now gonna be huge,
yeah, but you can do that righthere and there, right.
And then there's all the folksthat are like, they just like to
pick and play, but, you know,don't even don't do it for a
career or whatever.
They can come and enjoythemselves too and get in all
the circles and play.
Um or other artists.
We always tell everybody whenthey submit to play.
(12:12):
It's like, you know, we canonly fit so many people, but
come down and just hang out,like, yeah, we've made our
tickets super affordable.
Um, you know, as far as we canlike, right, and it's like you
can come down and just get tomeet all these folks, get to
play, get to hang out and a lotof time playing around the
campfire.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Then you end up on the stage the next year yeah, so
what are the ticket prices orwhat are the options we can kind
of tell everybody so like uh,we'd have to pull it up to get
exact, but if I remember right,like a day pass is was good for
any day.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
You know most people do it for saturday, but it's 70.
That's all day.
For your camping as well, theweekend pass is, I think, $1.50,
right now $150, but includestent camping and then, like some
of the upgrades for that wouldbe an RV spot, it's like another
$150.
A cabin, which are almost soldout.
There's only like two or threeleft, gotcha.
They kind of range from likesto the 500s, depending on what
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you're getting Right, and it'sall for the weekend.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Cool.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
We're not capable to sell them for like the day or
whatever.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Right.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
So yeah, you know, but if you're just like an OG
festival, yeah Kind of goingperson, like I've always been
150 bucks gets you the entireweekend and your tent camping.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
That's a hell of a deal.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
You got real showers, real showers real bathrooms,
yeah you know, and it's buo b,so we're not forcing people to,
and I'd like to mention, um, ifthey do, if there is no more
cabins, gypsy river, sure,literally yeah a minute, maybe
down the road, and yeah, we'vegot y'all got shuttles too.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Huh, we do, we absolutely do, we have we will.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
We will run them back and forth.
We've got four bungalows thatare fully air conditioned um,
they're, yeah, literallyglamping tents.
You know where you can do that.
We've got four bungalows thatare fully air-conditioned um,
they're, yeah, literallyglamping tents.
You know where you can do that.
We've got cottages and we'vegot a big river house that
sleeps 11 comfortably.
We've had up to 21 in there,yeah so yeah, now that we uh,
like we talked- last time.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Yeah, yeah, I can put a link there on our uh at this
point in the game.
I wouldn't worry about sellingon myself, but I'll just link it
, yeah, when we do sell out.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Yeah, just in case they do you know, I know a lot
of people ac is important intexas, especially this time of
year, right, and you don't knowwhat it's going to do.
But yeah, some of the guys froma couple of the other festivals
up and down, it's become areally cool thing in october.
Up and down river road herelately has been some really cool
festivals and so it's yeah it'sgood because we're all we're
not, we're not very far fromeach other.
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So no, not at all.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yeah, yeah, we definitely.
Can you know?
We talked a few months ago, wewere still trying to fill
everything, but now it's likefilling up?
We definitely and that's mygoal.
Um, you know, I've told paulthat and then I think, yeah, we
did talk about it and that'ssuper exciting because, yeah,
get, get this thing as helpingmusicians and doing what we've
done on the music side, myhusband and I and then you guys.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
It's a really cool little vibe that I think would
be really, really cool.
Yeah, and the bigger the better, yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Where we get to the point where all the campgrounds
are kind of filled and you knowthere'll be one center place
where the music is happening.
But that'd be really cool.
That would be epic, at least afew within the, a few
campgrounds within the a fewcampgrounds right around
mountain breeze and stuff and weget to that point where yeah,
it's like October's this thatweekend is the whole river road.
looks like summertime, butthey're all coming to the
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festival we get some hugeheadliners and stuff that would
be epic, yeah, but still feature.
Our whole kind of like ethos isfeaturing the up and coming and
like songwriters too, cause alot of time like songwriters
don't get invited to festivalsbecause they're amazing and
everybody loves them, but, likeyou know, festivals don't want
to risk that for like their bigcrowd, right, uh, so they bring
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in the big bands and stuff wherewe've always, we're going to
always keep that going whereit's like songwriters some of
the bands, national touring actsthat are coming in and stuff.
But yeah yeah, we want thepeople that you know you find
under a rock and, yes, are goingto be big one day.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
That's pretty epic.
How did you start in the musicbusiness?
How did you start in the musicscene?
I guess like everybody in highschool, just trying to be cool,
or something because I wasn'tgood at sports and stuff, so not
running in the family.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
My granddad was kind of a championship-level fiddle
player but had a wife and familyand all that before the those
opportunities could have come tohim.
But in, yeah, belton, texas,like down in the grove, he was
very well known for his fiddleplaying and stuff.
And then my two sisters likeplay guitar and two of my three
sisters play guitar and sing andstuff like that, but yeah, uh
never really did much commerciallike that.
(16:21):
One of my sisters kind of gotback into it in her older years
and played with a few bands,also kind of built in austin
kind of scene, and then uh, butyeah, I mean for the most part,
you know my dad's a truck driver, my mom's a seamstress and I
just had to figure it out on myown.
I just knew I liked to writeand sing songs.
So nice, still figuring thatstill figuring it out the
singing part out yeah, I think Iwrite a pretty good song, most.
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Of the time but uh but yeah,just been, uh, just kind of diy
and stay away so it's all comingtogether a little bit now,
that's cool.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I've talked to a lot of musicians.
I don't think I've heardanybody say a diy.
Yeah, as a musician, that's.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
That's kind of a cool little statement piece well, I
just mean in the sense that,like I you know, yeah, there was
nobody to really know.
We'll say hey, connect me tothis person or that person.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
I've just kind of slowly trudged along and figured
it out piece by piece.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
That's kind of another reason we started the
festival.
It's like we'll just do our ownthing.
I always hear people in thescene that are and we all cry
about different things, but it'slike how do I get in with that
group, or how do I?
Get with that label or on thatfestival and by the time you've
heard about a scene or a group,it's too late.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
And not only is it too late, but it's really easy
for us to like, I don't know,kind of put an evil mark.
Oh, they don supported eachother.
They all put on shows and hadeach other on a, had festivals,
whatever.
And now you're just seeing itat the top and you think you
can't get in.
It's like, well, we're going todo our own thing, we're going
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to, we all play together, we alldo shows together, we do this
festival together.
And it's like, and yeah, andone day the festival will sell
out and we're all sellouts, youknow.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
How have you guys found, like you were saying, the
musicians that are under therock, or how have you guys, how
have y'all brought these guys in?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
So, just like being well, this particular poster,
most of these guys aren't.
These are our headliners thisyear but, but yeah, but
everybody else, um, and noteverybody else is under a rock
either, but doing music, youknow.
So I'm out and I still, I'mstill active myself.
Got an album coming out infebruary and stuff, and just did
a few releases here recentlyand whatnot but just being out
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playing open mics and playingall these little under the rock
kind of gigs, dive bars and suchyeah, and you just meet people
that you're like they're soamazing, and then you look at
their following, you look at alltheir stuff, you look at where
they're playing.
You're like that ain't right youknow yeah so going for broke
here to try to give people Icare about, and myself you know,
I play it too.
So it's not like it's.
(18:55):
It's not all selfless you knowyeah but um, but yeah, just
these people deserve somewhereto play and to be seen, you know
, and and to just feel like the,the feeling of a festival
playing a big stage and havinggood sound and like and getting
open for, like the desolonesscott blue you know these are
headliners this year, it's justlike I think it's a, it's an
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opportunity that a lot of folksstill are working towards
getting you know.
So we just want to be that,that bridge, you know, I guess
bridge.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I think it's pretty cool.
I think it's pretty cool.
It's it's very similar to towhat we have done, you know,
helping, helping musicians alongthe way, and it's kind of
they've called me the music mamafor a long time, but it's kind
of like being the proud mamamoment where I get, you know,
watch them grow, watch themclimb and watch their wings
(19:44):
spread and fly and go and do,and it's really it's such a good
feeling.
So, I know you guys kind of Imean even you y'all yourselves
you know everybody startssomewhere.
You got to start at the bottomand crawl all the way up to the
top and sometimes you don't makeit, sometimes you fall,
Sometimes you fuck up and callpeople the wrong names and shit
and whatever, but you know I,I'm gonna come in hot with a
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nice name tag for you thisweekend, I mean this weekend
particularly, yeah.
So if you only knew, I, Iliterally have a nickname for
everyone and it may not comeright out of the gate.
It may take a month, it maytake two months, it may take
five minutes, it may take, itmay just happen by accident, who
knows.
But yeah, it's kind of like mywhole vibe, yeah.
I have a gypsy scenario where Ijust make up my own words and
(20:34):
so it's just part of myretard-ness, or whatever you
want to call it.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, call me anything you
want, I mean most of mynicknames have been.
Idiot asshole.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeah, dumb, fuck yeah .
So I've been called a lot ofthose myself.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
So any nickname is fine, yeah, but yeah, it should
be a good year.
Um, it should be a good yeardown there and uh, and yeah, you
were telling me last time, youknow you're talking about like
supporting people too is yeah is, uh, it's fulfilling there, but
then it's like you know, itpays dividends too.
Or you told me about some uhyoung kid that's a guitar player
now and you ran into him, likein vegas or something yes, um we
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were, so he um that's gotta beso cool.
Oh my gosh it was crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
So um 11 or 12 at the time, maybe they're fine, he's,
you can't.
And um, yeah, I came down witha friend of ours, erock, and he
was staying um staying at theresort for about a month or so
and his and his son's friend andthe kids ended up hanging out
(21:37):
with me the whole time and andhe was out here playing his
guitar and I mean he literallywas like a little little guy
right yeah, walking 11, 12,maybe walking jukebox.
there wasn't anything that youcould not throw at that kid,
that he could not play, and weput out a little beer bucket for
him and within a few hours hehad like $300.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Made more money than anybody else.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, I mean, any musician that plays for a living
had even thought about making.
Yeah, it was insane.
And then, yeah, we were down,yeah, maybe Nashville, maybe
Vegas at a show, and I don'teven know how we got in the
conversation my best friend'sthe drummer it was josh ward it
(22:21):
was who was playing and, um, hesaid, man, you got to come check
out the steel guitar player.
And he walked up and I said,holy shit, and he goes.
Do you remember me?
I was like how could I everfreaking forget you?
My gosh, yeah, he's on the roadplaying steel guitar and just
slaying it and it is justamazing.
(22:42):
I mean literally, I was just intears.
I was like look at this childand how did this ever happen?
And yeah, they ran into eachother and I think brooks
introduced him to josh and waslike yeah, he's 19 and he was
like you got to hear this kidplay and I was like y'all should
have heard him in 11.
Yeah, like what the hell?
I mean yeah, of course, at 19he's a freaking musical genius.
I mean he's just insane.
(23:02):
And yeah, he's just kicking assand taking names and on the
road with josh and just doingamazing.
But yeah he's so.
Yeah, very, that was a veryproud, proud really cool moment,
I think and yeah, it's amazing.
Yeah, there's been a lot ofreally cool songs, like you're
talking about songwriting, anddown by the river and up here at
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our place in our little circlethat we have up top, there's
been a lot of musicians thathave come and sat around up here
and wee hours in the morningand watch the sun come up and
have written some pretty amazingtunes, but it's pretty, it's a
pretty cool thing to witness.
So, yeah, if you guys don't knowabout this, um, this event
right here, this would be a goodtime to see some really amazing
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talent and things come tofruition.
And I one of the things thatI've really noticed, or air it a
lot of people don't get towitness in our little music
scene, in new bravos.
It's not little, it's actuallyrather ginormous, but these guys
, can you know, a guitar playercannot be able to play, or a
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drummer or whatever somebody inin in the group and they'll call
up another one and they canliterally just jump on stage and
just jump right in, just likethey've never even.
I mean, it's mind-boggling tome, literally, and you can just
watch them and they're watchingthe guitar, or the bassist is
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watching the drummer and thedrummer's watching the bass, and
it's like the next thing youknow.
They're just like what.
I mean, you don't even knoweach other's names and y'all are
just up here just slaying itlike it's.
It's really cool, vibe.
It's really cool.
To see how things like that canhappen and how you guys can
just the artistry and thetalents and can come together
and just make shit happen isjust mind-boggling oh yeah, it's
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, it's really really coolthere's.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
There's quite a bit of that um, with the jam is like
it's a lot of these songwritersthat we're picking up and and
uh, and I'll push them to belike hey, like I think I want
because I've seen them do like afull band show here there, but
they don't have an establishedband yet.
They just kind of had somepeople come in like hey I want
you to do like full band at thisfestival.
You know like you're yeah it's,it's time for you, you know
yeah I don't have this personother than give me a minute.
(25:11):
Let's start sending out textsall the different people are
playing and they say you know,like you know, there'll be one,
one drummer that's playing likethree different people.
That day, yeah be a guitarplayer popping in with a few
different bass player and thenlike send out a gear.
Like everybody brings all theirgear down and yeah yeah, you'll
have some guys show up you know, maybe just got started with
with his little bass amp orsomething they're like no, no,
get that out of here.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Like pull a big amp right like play on this, yeah
and so it's really it's.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
It's a community like we are a festival, I guess, by
definition, but it's really likethe community it is you know
and and like and it's such aunique one.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
It's such a cool family and such a cool vibe and
it's neat to be a part of thatand watch, watch how it comes,
comes together.
You mentioned the reed brothersand those are two, two kids.
I've watched from the beginningyeah go and yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Yeah, they're pretty cool, I'm, I'm.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I'm still yet to meet them in person yet, but I've
been digging on their music andstuff, the sibling harmonies are
a real thing in those two and Idon't know who's all coming
with them, but I, I'm, I willknow them.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah, they're supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Oh yeah, it's going to be a good vibe, so yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
That's what.
Uh, yeah, the uh Alyssa thaty'all met, y'all just put it on
her and uh, reed Coles, they,yeah, they kind of this year.
I was like, and Sean Ryan, he'sat a San Marcus or whatever,
and I was like, hey, y'all giveme like a list of people you
know like, because I'm, I'malways in and out of here like
more, more of my.
My stomping grounds have beenlike central and north and west,
you know, and then like out ofstate, but, um, I've always been
like down in austin and whatnot, but the scene down there has
(26:38):
always changed so much, yes, butdown here now, yeah, it's like
I want to be involved in here, Iwant to get some elder, but and
I'm starting to learn a- fewthings, but but yeah, just that
they were like the reed brothersshowed up on two of their three
lists, I was like okay that's agood one.
I looked him up I'm like, ohyeah, they're legit, yeah, I was
like we'll just, we'll justheadline them, yeah so they're
headlining thursday.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Well, I think that's really smart that you brought um
for a thursday crowd, that youbrought one of our local sets
from here.
That is extreme there.
Everybody in town knows thereed brothers and whoever
they're going to have up therewith them, full band whether
it's I mean, if I could name alist a mile long, but they're,
they'll draw, they'll draw asolid crowd and we'll make sure
we'll share it and blast it andlet everybody know that that the
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boys are in town, so and theywere playing a good local gig
and down out here, so it'll begood the same night we've got
high water gamble and ghostdance band.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
They're both like in the same kind of vibes and
they've been with us for a longtime.
Nice, um, they're out ofoklahoma and then down here in
texas, so I think'd be a good.
It starts to be kind of alittle more like a little more
rock kind of feel, feel, vibe,yeah, yeah.
It'll be good.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, I've got a little group that I set up a
long time ago Um golly, maybeback in 2014 and it's called
starving artist.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
And it was yeah, it was just a yeah, it was just a
we.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
we created Um and it was to to take.
I mean, that was a long timeago, it was almost 10 years ago,
and we put it together to reachout to musicians and let them
know.
Hey, you know, we just boughtour place on the river and, you
know, we in the music scene andwe want to take you guys that
are under the rock or the youngscene and we want to take you
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guys that are under the rock orthe young high school kids or
the whatever's and and um andintroduce them to people.
And I, like I've told so manymusicians that do come and play
at our place you have toremember y'all could play at our
places on river road everysingle weekend and you'd have a
different crowd every singleweekend and so when you guys go,
they go back home to Houston orCorpus or Dallas or wherever
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they come from, East Texas, westTexas, and they hear and see
you guys.
They're going to be like, hey, Iheard these guys at Gypsy River
one weekend, blah, blah, blah.
So they can, you know they'llfollow you out.
But it's, you know, a lot ofpeople don't think about that,
when you could literally be ahouse band on the river and have
a different crowd every singleweekend.
But it's, yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
That's kind of the same thing.
Like Austin and Fort Worth, youcan play that residency.
I'm not really a Stockyardsband, but a lot of the guys that
do that yes.
I've been down there before andthey go all right, everybody
yell.
If you're from Fort Worth, it'slike woo Yell.
If you're from Texas, woo, it'slike all right, who's traveled
in?
Speaker 1 (29:21):
And the whole crowd, the whole place goes insane.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
So you're getting like a nationwide crowd.
Yeah, same thing with you guys.
Everybody comes down here toflow, you know.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Yep, talk about being a starving artist and being a.
And just starting from theground up, you know, I did Fall
Fest at my resort for five years, I believe, and I discontinued
it.
At the time that I started itit was there was nothing in town
(29:49):
.
I had some friends, renee andSteve Trevino and they came into
town and at the time Garrettwas like six months old and she
was like where do I take him forsix months old?
And she was like there's, wheredo I take him for a pumpkin
patch?
And I was like you know what?
We used to have them on everycorner and we didn't.
And so I literally threwtogether in two weeks this huge
pumpkin patch and that was myinspiration behind that.
(30:10):
And then now they're on everycorner and I can't compete with
them, and so and and um, so Idon't, but even we would park
people at mountain breezeseveral years and yeah, we all
doing it like five years ago,still roughly.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Yeah, that's when I started it.
Cause, cause, yeah, I remembernothing about this.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Yeah, I remember during there.
Yeah, yeah, during during ourfestival.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Yeah, I remember the up there Cause before soggy came
in that was an empty field andthose trailers were coming in
and out with the hay bales?
Speaker 1 (30:41):
and stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah, that was us.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
People were waiting there to get on the ride.
Yeah, that would have been likeI think that was our year one
or two.
Yeah, Right.
So, we were still just kind oflike all right, what the?
Speaker 2 (30:49):
hell, we're just asking our friends to doing
nothing.
Yeah, it wasn't until 2022.
We brought in the damn quails.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
And then like so last year.
I'm trying to like he's a goodfriend of mine.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Yeah, he's good people, such a good dude.
My idea is, like every otheryear do like a songwriter
retreat one year.
Right and a Jam Down the River,song retreat, and then the next
year be a festival.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
So we be a fly on the wall with like scheduled
catering and like canoe.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
So it's more like for us songwriters to enjoy
ourselves.
Yeah, and then saturday do abig show, you know?
Speaker 2 (31:22):
yeah, I know there's a couple of them that, like rio
and a bunch of the boys, go toreed brothers, and what have you
that they go to?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
um, yeah the reasoning for it would just be
like to kind of instill anexcuse for all of us to get
together and then yeah, and alsodoing it in that structure and
be set up where we couldhopefully get it all sponsored,
or it's like all right, you knowthis is instead of a payout
deal, it's like pay in and youknow we've done all the math and
it's like hundred dollars aperson, but you're gonna have a
cabin, you're gonna get fed twotimes a day.
(31:50):
I'm gonna go on these trips andwe'll have media.
There there'll be video cameras, you know, just kind of like a
whole weekend of just enjoyingeach other and like having promo
and then do a show at the end.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
I think that would be a really cool vibe down here,
especially with the ever justmany musicians and and that are
all here and that want to behere, and yeah, you know, with
all your animals around here.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Oh yeah, I could literally go nuts with this
whole thing.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
I could really, yeah, especially if you guys did you
know the singer, songwriter, orjust to incorporate extra little
things that that nobody, thatnobody has.
You know, I've always, um, beenthe strange bird, been the
different, been the differentone, and and um, if I have too
much time to think, I can't doit.
(32:36):
But if you throw something likethis at me two weeks prior to
and say, hey, you want to shit afestival, I'll be like let's
shit a festival, let's freakingdo this.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yeah, I'm kind of the same way.
Yeah, I mean I've been forcedto plan all this stuff ahead of
time, but yeah, right, when Ihave the whole year to fest run,
it almost like it drives menuts I can't, I can't do it.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
I I was talking to Renee Trevino and they, um, her
husband's a big comedian andshe's got her her shows and
stuff that she does and andshe's so a planner Like it's
gotta be, and I'm thinking Iwould lose my ever loving mind.
There is no way I would goinsane.
I would like.
(33:16):
I just can't.
I'm currently doing that, yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yeah, I literally would, I would, I would just be
no, I there's just no.
But yeah, Two weeks prior to.
Yeah, I won't sleep for twoweeks and I'll get it, but it'll
be.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Yeah.
I'm kind of a procrastinatingcram kind of person.
So with this, unfortunatelythere's like pieces and you know
you run business- there'scertain pieces that just have to
get that you have to do so it'slike everything's on schedule,
everything's going right.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
But like that's what I push off to that person that
yeah to my nick, I push nick.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
This is the one that we need to know in 2025.
Yes, on june the 12th at fouro'clock, we need to have this
set up and she'll.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yeah, that's what I was just talking to her about
yeah, I've got a.
I've got a new a and r agent Ijust hired and she was like you
need like an assistant and I'mlike I do, I can't afford one.
Yeah, I was like I'm like nowyou make this record go and we
might start making some money,then I'll get an assistant yeah
yeah but like, but yeah, I feel,I feel that, like that would be
, I'd be, that's what thefestival, the list, and then,
(34:15):
like I've slowly, right set thatup, you know, and but still
it's like I, you know they're,they're more than willing to
help me and do a lot of stuff,but it's also like I feel guilty
.
It's like I want to, and withthe artists too, like I want to
pay everybody.
I want to, I want to have abusiness that's like profitable
and like it's going, which maybethat's my own, like you know,
just a me thing that I can'tstand anybody helping me or
(34:36):
whatever, but they're happy todo it, I'm happy to have all
their help, you know.
But yeah, that'd be nice to getto that point where it's like
festival has a whole crewrunning it and I just show up,
just show up and theneverything's done, everything's
everything's handled.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
That would be epic, but I'm going to just let you
know that that will never happen.
If you're anything like me, youjust know well I'll be involved
.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I want to be involved , but yeah, I'll be the one I'm
the one that walks up and goes.
Thanks for your help but okay,now we can begin right, but
still they carried it in thereand put it down and then you get
to come in and adjust it yeah,yes, that's.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
I have a really hard time with um coming in and and
taking over things and I don'tknow if that's a good thing or a
bad thing.
A lot of people appreciate it.
A lot of times I don't realizeI'm doing it.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Yeah, I can be the same way I was, like last year
we had.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Don't be surprised if I just jump in and help at your
gig, I'll take it.
Fixing the rugs on the stage,making sure your cords are where
they need to go.
I have trips and falls.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
I literally just got to that point.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
I fall all the time.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
So yeah, yeah, last year we had uh um Dan Green
Greenlee, he's a, he's avolunteers at all kinds of
festivals like old settlers,kerrville and stuff Like he's
just in that world and he, uh he.
He saw our post about uhvolunteering cause he wanted to
see John Fulbright.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
So he's like all right, I'll be there.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
And he shows up and uh, and yeah, last year I was
only able to get like a fewvolunteers and stuff and then a
few friend volunteers with that,but so we had like our official
meeting every morning and wentover everything and then
everything that I said I was notgoing to do and that they were
going to do, then I'm over theredoing it with them and there
was this.
There was this tent thing thatwe bought and it's the first
time they're like a big, bigpipes and like, yeah, you know,
it's pretty big, it's like 16 by16, pretty big tent, and I'm
(36:14):
over there like messing with it.
I'm like, oh, you put this here, this here, and and I was so
happy to like have him.
Cause I mean he's I mean he's anold gentleman like he's been
doing this a long time and helike yelled at me and he was
like he's like you go do, he'slike you need to have other
stuff too.
He's like we got this.
(36:35):
He's like yeah, I've seen thisa million times.
He's like and, and and.
He's like he's like all thesepeople here want you to tell
them what to do, and I'm likethat doesn't feel right.
And he's like they, they, theydon't like it that there's no
direction Right.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
It's getting paid and it feels different and it's
like but what it took him like,he kind of shook me up last year
.
I was like, okay, do this, youdo that.
And they were all super happyto be like because they my kids
are that way, the ones that haveworked with me for a very long
time.
Polo runs my resort down thereand he grew up with my middle
son and that kid is one he willput my ass in check.
That I mean I need, because ifnot he's like, would you just
stop?
I know I've been doing, I'vebeen putting up this fucking
canopy for the last.
Every time we do anything I'vegot, yeah, and can do it with
(37:23):
his hands tied, but he's, he'sbeen with me so long that he
knows enough to where.
Yeah, I might shed one tear, Idon't know, maybe two, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
I mean, I enjoyed it, but sometimes it takes somebody
to just go put your ass incheck.
There's definitely a percentageof it that's like micromanaging
, but then there's a biggerpercentage.
I just feel so guilty.
Yeah, I just can't.
I'm like, oh, I need to helpyou do it, or I need to do that.
That's me.
Or hey, I can't watch you mopthe floor here.
Let me, Let me help you withthat.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
That's neat.
Meg's seen me do things.
She's like I cannot believeyou're doing this right now and
I'm like, oh yeah, I mean,there's nothing, I won't jump in
there and do yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
So that's what it turns out that way.
But yeah, I was very happy tohave Dan.
I mean his help physically.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
But then, like on the I guess the whatever on that
side of things too, just be likealmost like the admin side.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
He's like go run, go run your festival yeah, I was
like, oh, you're right, okay,cool.
And then went and did all mystuff and yeah, and then he
would come find me.
He's like all right, we're donehere.
Like what's next cool, so he'scoming back this year so I'm
very happy about that.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
I can't wait to meet him we got a decent size
volunteer crew this year.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
So that's awesome so yeah, I'm ready to be like, see
this stuff, it needs to go uphere and all this stuff and we
and I was.
Another thing that I learnedlast year with those volunteers
was, you know, I kind of neededto be there, cause I didn't know
how it was set up or where toput it so last year I took
pictures of everything and nowit's like okay, so here's the
stage is how we normally set itup, like here's roughly where we
set it up and you know this goand then they can reference that
(38:54):
and just do it on their ownyeah
Speaker 2 (38:56):
or I can stand there and orchestrate too, but or you
can do both yeah, yeah or youcan just let dan handle it.
You can sit down and have coldbeer.
Yeah, pretty sure dan's got itunder control.
I have.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
I have made a promise to myself, like last year was
supposed to be the year, butthis year alissa.
So she's gonna.
She's always helped out, butlike this year she's acting gm
and like then I got sean ryanstage.
You know, stage managementbetween the two of them it's
like all right, my, my goal isto like I'm going to be a little
.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
I'm going to be a little drunky poo over there
myself.
Step back a little bit, yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Nice, yeah, and just like you guys know what to do
and I'll be right there.
It's not a huge festival.
It's not like I'm going to behidden, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
I'll in the resort side.
Like I said, we've had it for10 years and it's taken me.
We have a lot of regulars thatcome.
They book a year.
We've now let them to wherethey're booking two years in
advance.
It's taken me a long time onSaturday nights because we have
live music every weekend at myplace and to sit back and leave
(39:57):
on a Saturday night and not bethere to control the riffraff or
to maintain the bar or to makesure that the sound is good or
to make sure.
And these kids have been withme for a long time, so it's
still it's.
I've gotten much better at it,a lot better at it, but it's
(40:17):
still there.
It's still there where I'mthinking, Nope, I'm not going to
do it.
And then I turn around andthere I am.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Yeah, but right behind the bar or whatever.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
Seriously, I do and I love it.
Y'all need more ice Y'all needto load up your bar back in I am
.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
I do it.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
I do it all I love it and I do, and I love our
clientele and I love ourcustomers and and yeah, if I'm
not there when they get there, Iget it, and that's and that's
why I keep doing it, becausethey're like where are you at,
why aren't you here, where areyou?
We've been waiting for yousince Friday and blah, blah,
blah and yeah, with with usdoing the podcast now and and so
many other things, there's justI.
(40:52):
I will literally just be thereon Saturdays and it it's really
cool because so many of themhave my cell and sometimes
that's good.
Sometimes you're like what inthe actual hell?
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Yeah, but yeah, that's what we put out, all this
correspondence with, like theartists and they're.
The thing is, they're all mylike, you know, except for like
the headliners, which hopefullybecome my friends too, but like
it's, it's like most of thepeople I know on a super
personal basis.
So it's like I think they'refinally, they're finally
catching on.
But, uh, because I've had toexplain to them, you know, it's
like they show up and instead ofhitting up the stage manager or
(41:26):
hitting up the gm, as we'veinstructed, they personally they
texted me like hey, I just gothere, where do I go?
What do I do?
I'm like I got 50 of y'allsending me the same text, and
then I got friends that arecoming.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
I got families coming the campgrounds texting me hey,
and like you just want tofigure it out your phone in the
freaking river, yeah we havepeople show up at the resort all
the time and they'll pull upand go.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Can you tell tiffany I'm here and they know now, like
if they even say that yeah yeah, just to charge them extra.
Yeah, don't tell them to godown somewhere else.
I don't want to hear it, Idon't.
And and they know they.
Yeah, no, she said I could.
No, she didn't.
No, we know her way better thanthat.
She did not say that.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
She did not.
I'm fortunate.
I'm fortunate, but I haven'tgotten into that yet.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
but yeah, oh it's coming, no it happens in
different ways.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
You know where, you know people and I don't know.
I I'm not ill-willed towardsanything like that, but you know
it's.
I was running a business likeoh, can you help me here?
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Yeah, it's hard.
It's hard to put your foot down, it's hard to say no.
It's like I want you all to behere for free, but which?
Goes back to that Like andwe're doing all right, it's,
it's, definitely it's, it'sgrowing.
I got a nice bubble gum machine.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
It might come unglued .
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Maybe Lance might, maybe Banshee might, but I don't
know.
No, we won't do that.
We won't do that.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
I'm just kidding, see , I'm going to have to come up
with a name for you.
I think I should order some ofthem.
It's on the little high.
My name is whatever.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
Put them at the front gate as they come in and check
in, yeah, first time in yeah,that's kind of a cool vibe.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
I don't know that I've ever been to a festival
where they just name you rightwhen you get your here's your
wristband and here's yourweekend name.
Speaker 3 (43:07):
Yeah, yeah, here's who you are.
Now you can take it off onSunday, before you leave.
Yeah, yeah, before you hit theoffice on Monday, at least the
OGs like burning bands, like thewhole idea was to take your
stuff out there and like burnwhatever you wanted to leave
behind.
Oh yeah, and we kind of do thatsame kind of ethos of like you
get a new name when you come outhere.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
You can be a totally different person Leave the name
when you're out, and then youcan go back to your real life.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
Yes, that'd be a good , a good concept.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
You're welcome.
You're absolutely, absolutelywelcome.
I love when my fuck-ups justturn into something creative,
which is kind of like the storyof my life.
Oh, did you run over that?
I think I just hang that on thewall, beautiful, yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Yeah, it's a little paint on it something, yeah
that's, like you know, shakygraves that's where he got his
name from uh, hanging out at oldsettlers festival, I believe,
is where he tells he's in hisstory, says a festival, but I'm
pretty sure it was old settlersbecause he was one of those ogs
out there, yeah, but yeah,apparently you know him and his
friends were, all you know,inebriated high whatever just
giving each other funny namesand his was shaky graves, and
(44:08):
now it's like everybody knowsyeah, what started is some goofy
around a campfire.
I know, and I think I have thatright.
Don't fact check me, though.
It's better.
My story is way better I likeit.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
I think, if it's not, they should just run with it,
let's go with it.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
Stick that on reddit, or whatever it is, yeah it's a
conspiracy, we'll just start,let's run with it, but I think I
think that's the backstorybehind it.
But and yeah, festivals ingeneral, like it's just, I've
spent a lot of you know nowrunning this one.
I don't go to as many becauseit's a lot of focus on this but
but yeah, I used to and stillget get out to quite a few, but
like I love it.
(44:41):
You know there's nothing betterthan like a good festival and I
camp in your friends and youget dirty and stinky.
Then you go home and wash allyour sins away and it's kind of
like a reset it is.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
So now that we're doing one, it's pretty happy to
I like the going one year andgoing the next year and kind of
I like to watch, watch them growand the improvements and the
changes, and you know I like towatch things evolve like that.
So I think that's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (45:06):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Or maybe it gets really big andwe'll have the next Coachella
on River Road.
Hey, you know I'm down for that, yeah, as long as we have the
bathroom situation and thatunder control, I'm good for that
.
Seriously, once you get intothe big numbers, you know you
get into the 20, 30,000, 60,000people at a festival.
It's serious business.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
My very first concert I went to was Jimmy Buffett and
I almost went to jail alongwith several others.
But the bathroom situation wasso bad that people were putting
up blankets, because it was oneof those where you take and
(45:45):
peeing behind them.
And so they came and literallypulled down and I was the one
peeing behind the blanket.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
But I mean, of course I was yeah, but you came on
glued.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Yeah, and I was like they were like knock it off, but
I mean good Lord.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
What are we supposed to do?
What are you?
Speaker 2 (45:59):
supposed to do.
And, and I mean those arethings that you think if you're
going to have a festival with 60000 people, or however many it
was, you know um, you're gonnahave to think that there's a
couple, two, three turlets arenot going to be.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
That's not going to manage the situation I mean well
that walk around, start pissingthemselves like yeah, they got
whole companies that are just incrowd control and stuff and
like you get that big, you'vegot to, you got to have plans
and stuff or you better expectchaos yeah, that's what we've
better expect the quiltedbathrooms, right yeah so, if
chaos does break out, we stillhave the facilities for it, we
(46:33):
have the employees for it, wehave whatever we need.
You know, right opposed to justlike cool, we're gonna make
hundreds of thousands of dollars, but that was one concept that,
when zero fest started thatthat was their concept was to.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
They had the space for a certain amount of tickets
and they said from day one theywould only yeah they would cap
it out at this, because theynever wanted to be that well too
.
It's a totally different vibe.
I mean, it starts off, you know, at the amphitheater, but then
and now they've got differentstages in the place and so, yeah
, they've, they've it's.
It has gotten very big but theyhave changed it up a wee bit
(47:07):
and you're gonna, you're gonnasee some musicians and you're
gonna miss most but it.
But you've set up your lineup,how you want to go and do what
most do.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
It's the experience, like I mean, that's what we're
ultimately.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
I mean for us, us artists, it's like a lot of
money to go see you guys and godo this and you want them to see
experience.
That's what you're I mean well,I'm glad you came.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Dustin and Lance, yeah, and then we're going to
see Banshee.
So and if y'all need to.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
Hopefully no Banshee.
You don't want to see Banshee.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Shut.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Saturday at 4 o'clock in the morning, okay, so.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
Saturday 4 am Still got to get a ticket to get in.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Yeah.
So in a jam down by the river,Mountain Breeze, new Braunfels,
texas, on River Road, we will belike sharing, following posting
all the things.
Links Reed Brothers, local guysin New Braunfels.
You guys come and see them onThursday nights.
It's definitely worth the money.
It is worth it.
Yeah, there's cabins availableat mountain breeze tent camping,
(48:03):
rv spots.
We also, if they are booked,you're, you're welcome to come
to our place, gypsy river resort.
We'll also put a link on there.
We've got cabins, we've gotbungalows, we've got a river
house, we have RV spots, we havetent spots, showers, all the
things.
Yeah, yeah.
So send them your way.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
It is I think we have like two left.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
Yeah, they'll probably be.
I'll link you on the site,we'll send them down your way.
Yeah, and we'll shuttle youguys back and forth.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
We're literally within walking distance, it's
not hard, but yeah, yeah, causethey can walk the river too,
right, yeah, they don't evenhave to get out on the road.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Well, if they go through the river and there's a
bunch of private property, Ithought there was that road that
connected everybody.
No, you don't want to do that.
Speaker 3 (48:40):
We'll shovel, we'll shovel.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
I'll take you in the golf cart myself.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
There you go, there you go, and I'll have my Jenny
out there.
We'll be running around.
So we've got plenty of golfcarts too, so but, yeah, it's
going to be a good time.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
Thanks for coming.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
And we are definitely doing the behind.
My name is.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
Yeah, yeah, I'll get some stickers made up yeah, and
I'll come up with the name foryou.
I'm gonna be good, it's gonnabe good.
Speaker 2 (49:03):
I like surprises.
It's gonna be a good time.
Yeah, october 17th through the20th 2024 this in a couple weeks
mountain breeze, new brunfels,texas, on the gawad.
Yeah, it's gonna be a good time.
Thanks for coming, thank yousee y'all there.
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