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Roy Caughlin's journey from Ireland to Poland began with a relationship and property investments, but evolved into a life-changing adventure spanning 18 years. When Roy found property in Poland was remarkably affordable compared to his native Ireland, he seized the opportunity – a decision that would test his resilience but ultimately lead to extraordinary personal growth.

At nine years old, Roy was already showing entrepreneurial promise by washing cars and gardening. This spirit followed him through life, from newspaper routes to motorbike sales, eventually leading to property development. His story takes a dramatic turn when the 2008 financial crisis left him personally liable for $5 million in debt, despite operating what he believed were limited liability companies. During this devastating period, Roy witnessed corruption throughout banking and legal systems that would later fuel his mission to expose fraud.

The conversation reveals Roy's remarkable transformation from someone too shy to order at shops or bars to becoming a Distinguished Toastmaster in just three years. His method? Saying "yes" to every speaking opportunity – competitions, TEDx talks, even stand-up comedy – facing his fears head-on until they dissolved. Roy credits meditation, gratitude practices, and forgiveness as crucial tools in rebuilding his life, explaining how forgiving those who wronged him freed him from consuming resentment.

Today, Roy has created multiple successful podcasts with five reaching the top 0.5% globally, recording over 1,500 episodes. He generously shares practical advice for podcast growth: create attention-grabbing intros, understand your audience demographics, use meaningful graphics that stand out in small thumbnails, and implement systematic tracking to improve content consistently. His approach to entrepreneurship emphasizes work-life balance – organizing his schedule around family commitments while building businesses he loves.

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Speaker 1 (00:18):
welcome back to one-on-one with mr you.
Of course I'm your host.
Mr you in studio with us today.
One with mr you.
Of course I'm your host.
Mr you in studio with us today.
Good buddy of mine, he'saserial entrepreneur and podcast
host roy calling, is in the ratecolumns in the house this
morning ray warren, it's not ray, it's roy.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
My apologies, I'm very well.
I'm very well and I love themusic and the intro.
I was kind of getting into thevibes there.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah, to me it'd be a lot longer, but that's more for
me than for everybody else.
I can't do that kind of stuff,but I'm excited to hear how you
share your story live with allof our listeners.
There's so much meat andcontent from your experiences in
life.
I want to try to pull as muchas we can within this 45 minutes
to an hour, whatever we hadtoday with each other man.

(01:10):
But I want to hear some of yourstory about how you got from
from poland to ireland.
I want to hear some of that.
Or I is that no island ofpoland got to reverse.
You're from ireland, but you'rein poland now.
Copy that right, all right.
So love to hear how you madethe move.
What prompted that?
Anytime somebody leaves theirhometown and moves to an

(01:30):
unfamiliar place, it alwaysintrigues me, partly because I
did it and there's so manystories behind what happened
when I did it and all that camewith it.
But love to hear your story.
Man from Ireland to Poland,tell us how it happened.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, so I'm from Cork in Ireland, which is the
south of Ireland.
It's the second biggest city,and I started dating a Polish
girl and I wasn't planning onexactly.
I wasn't planning on movingthere.
But when I went and visitingour parents I saw property was
actually very cheap.
So I started getting a fewproperties and then I set up a
company to sell properties,because that was around 2004

(02:04):
when, you know, everybody wasinvesting in foreign properties.
So I was coming out then oneweek a month to do the thing and
then she based herself inPoland.
But the relationship didn'twork out and I was so deep in I
had to buy in.
Syndicates, put in bigdevelopments together.
We were going to build 30apartments, had commercial.
I'd have lost a whole lot so itwasn't planned but I moved.

(02:28):
I'm here 18 years.
I'm kind of happy.
I am because I've seen the wayIreland has gone.
Ireland's kind of gone down thedrain because of bad
governments here.
Extremely safe Love.
It Never had any hassle sinceI've been here.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
That's wonderful.
I was going to ask you how youwould compare or contrast
Ireland from Poland.
Beside the political part whichI think anybody that pays
attention to global affairs getswhat's going on in Ireland and
why you feel the way you do.
But beside that part, puttingthat part aside, how would you
contrast Ireland from Poland?
What's another difference or acomparison you'd make about both

(03:04):
places?

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Well, when I came here first, it was, I remember
we had investors and they werewhat.
We were walking the main streetand they were like there's no
people that are obese here Likethere were.
Everybody was in great shape.
That has changed so in the 18years.
Yeah, but you've got all thesefranchises after appearing as
well, so they're not lookingafter their health as they were.

(03:26):
When I came here first, it waslike the courtesy for driving In
Ireland.
If you're coming off a sliproad, every second car would let
you go.
That's just the way we are inIreland.
Here you have to be a kamikazeto get out.
People weren't letting you out.
But it's changed and I think alot of it is because so many
people went abroad, saw how itwas like in Norway, germany and

(03:48):
different countries came backand then started implementing
that and maybe people saw whatit's like.
But it's getting a lot betternow.
I see there's a lot of courtesyand, as I say, you can walk at
night.
You can walk on the main streetnever seen, never had any

(04:10):
hassle.
I actually really love thecountry Architecture, if you
like, architecture, fantasticarchitecture, just all different
cities.
So highly recommend people tocome there.
Food is great as well.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
I'd love to see pictures of this man because
I've seen architecture in a lotof grasslands and islands.
I've never seen that in Polandat all, so I would love to see
that kind of stuff.
I don't know how we can getthat.
Can you post some pictures onour YouTube channel under the
episode for the show?
Are you able to do that?
Post some pictures of the.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Well, I'd be able to go in and find ones that I know
is good architecture and put alink for it.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah, I would love to see that.
I don't even know what it lookslike in Poland, but the way you
describe it sounds reallybeautiful, man.
I'd love to hear more of that.
Another thing in regards toyour time in Ireland and Poland
I know that you started off, ofcourse, you were born in Ireland
.
You started off with thatentrepreneur spirit in Ireland
and now you're kind of making itreally happen in Poland in a

(05:03):
big way.
You got so many accomplishments.
I don't know if it's going totake us more than an hour to get
into all that you've done, man.
So I'm excited to have thischat with you, but would you
believe the idea forentrepreneurship started with
you?
No, it started in Ireland.
But what do you think kind ofset it off?
Was it your dad that was anentrepreneur and you picked up

(05:23):
after him?
Or your mom?

Speaker 2 (05:24):
kind of what started it all for you, I'm not sure.
Like I was nine, I was goingaround doing washing cars and
kind of doing a bit of gardening, delivering leaflets.
My dad worked in the cinema.
He was like chief projectionistbut he also was doing weddings.
So he did weddings on the siteand so he would do the
photography and my mom would putthe albums together, perhaps
because that was kind of a bitentrepreneurial, perhaps it was

(05:47):
that, but it was kind ofencouraged.
Then at 11 I started doing anewspaper round.
I did that up to college withthe money from that I bought.
At 14 I bought a lawnmower.
Then I was going around cuttinggrass.
At 18, I know, I was kind ofbuying and selling a few
motorbikes.
So it was always in me.
Then, I think around 22 orsomething like that, I studied
construction, economics andmanagement, started working for

(06:09):
a mechanical contractor and kindof toured around Ireland.
I worked in different parts ofIreland Limerick, dublin,
dundalk.
I was with one company forabout eight, eight and a half
years.
So I kind of worked my way upto project manager, contract
manager, then went with anothercompany doing regional manager.
But it was still in me and evenduring the time of that, I set

(06:30):
up a web development companywith a guy I was always in, so
when I went to Poland I've neverworked for a company since.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Oh, my goodness, I get that the whole
entrepreneurship thing.
I mean I kind of earlier thatfought it off a lot.
My mother, she, was really bigon education and that was kind
of ingrained into us.
So I tried to balance that andtry to do that, you know, not
only to please her but just tomake sure that I was doing the
right thing.
You know, taking a stable route, but entrepreneurship was

(06:58):
something I couldn't get awayfrom.
So now I'm fully engulfed in itand obviously you were starting
that same path early on in lifeand it hadn't left you.
You kind of take it to anotherlevel.
A lot of people who arelistening to our show what I
hear, a lot of them have thatkind of entrepreneurial bent, if
you will.

(07:18):
What kind of encouragementwould you give to our listeners
and those that are viewing theshow today if they have a desire
to do that, but they're kind ofafraid to step out into the
unstable and leave the stablebehind in order to do
entrepreneurship?
How would you encourage them?
Would you tell them to do whatyou've done, to step out kind of
a leap of faith, or would youtell them to go a different

(07:40):
route?
How would you encourage ourentrepreneurs that are listening
today.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
It depends on where they are.
If they've got a young family,you have to be careful because
you know we're all optimistic.
You don't want to walk awayfrom stable income to assuming
you're going to make x amount.
You can do things on the side.
So instead of going away youknow, sitting down for a couple
of hours watching the netflixand things like that go away and
start building your business soyou can start building it and

(08:06):
then, when you get to the level,oh, this is actually creating,
this is similar to what I'mearning on my.
You know, if you're working fora corporation or something like
that, and then you can make thejump when you're younger, yeah,
it's okay to fail, just do itstart again.
Do it start again, you know,because it's like walking you
get up, you fall, you get up.
But yes, people look at you asif like, oh, you're supposed to
be perfect.

(08:27):
There's a high failure rate and, depending on the years, you
hear all different statistics.
At 10 years it's 4% orsomething like that.
The way I see it is as long asyou're doing something you love,
then you're never.
I mean anytime you're talkingto anybody that's working for a
corporation, they're always hatewho they're working with.
They hate the management, theyhate everything and they're kind

(08:47):
of teaching it on a sundaynight like.
I never feel like that, becauseI love what I do.
I can work away on a sunday,it's all good.
I can work on a saturday, it'sway.
What?
What you know in the evening,it depends you can, and then you
can organize your day as well.
So, you know, with my child andbringing them to school or
collecting them from school,it's all good, you know.
And I block out times for, say,the podcast at certain times.

(09:08):
So you're your own boss, Idon't have to go to somebody.
Hey, can I have a holiday someplaces?
You need to give them a month'snotice to take one or two weeks
holiday, you know.
So I don't have that.
And even one of the advantagesis I remember when my
grandmother was getting ill, Iwas able to take a month off and
spend time next to her bedholding her hand, and if you

(09:30):
weren't working for somebody,you can't really do that.
So there's a lot of advantages,but be careful, because we're
all kind of thinking everythingwill be great.
But just surround yourself withthe right people, start doing
the right research, startlistening to podcasts that talk
about whatever subject you're in, like any business I get into.
I've started a lot of business.
I'd read 10 books, if not more,on it, and then I start having

(09:53):
conversations with the people.
Don't do it on your own.
There's people that have mademistakes already.
They've laid the track, so geton the train on that track
instead of trying to create anew track for yourself track
instead of trying to create anew track for yourself.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, and you do a couple of podcasts.
I'm very interested in youtalking about that.
Do just that.
Talk about that a little lateron in the episode.
But you've done something thatmany of us aspire to do.
You know what it's like to berich.
Can you share some of the storyabout how you got there and
what happened afterwards?

Speaker 2 (10:22):
So when I was working in Ireland, I was doing very
well and I had a few properties.
So then when I started doinginvestments in Poland, I knew
that if I was investing as well,it was easier for investors to
go.
He's got skin in the game, so Ireleased equity on my
properties and started gettinginvolved with a lot.
I was the president of a lot ofcompanies and I had about 14

(10:44):
people on my books.
At one stage everything wasgoing very well.
Crash happened in the states2008, but it took a bit longer
to come across the pond and afew of the people that I had in
the syndicate they start andthey were big like they were
worth 10 million plus and theystarted losing everything.
Everything started being takenoff them and I just thought this
is going to come right and Istarted putting some more money

(11:05):
into it to cover some of theones.
The commercial I said look,I'll charge you 10% at the end
of the year if you can't give itto me.
But I assumed they'd get itright and eventually the whole
lot came tumbling down.
They didn't get it right andusually with a limited liability
company, you kind of go, let'sstart again, like I was saying
earlier, if you're.
But the problem is nobody hadtold me in Poland that I was

(11:26):
personally liable.
So I was personally liable, soI had a debt of about $5 million
, yeah, and then of course allthe investors were just gone.
They left me kind of holdingthe baby and I had to fight my
way through that.
But through that I saw so muchcorruption.
I saw corruption with bail thatI saw so much corruption.

(11:47):
I saw corruption with bailiffs.
I saw corruption with courts,with banks, and that was kind of
what fueled me to kind ofexpose this and was one of my
shows is kind of like exposingfraud and corruption, but with
solutions.
It was like I said this isn'tright and I see this is an
international thing.
You know, like, for example,like a bailiff, they'd have a
screenshot showing that theyadvertise something but they
take it away and they pretendthat nobody turned up and then

(12:10):
they get their own cronies tobuy it.
You know there was one projectit was houses and they had
people.
They bribed the people in theroom that they had their own
people buying it.
So I reckon, like I've seen ithappening.
I thought it was just Polandand I've seen it happening.
I thought it was just Polandand I've seen it happening in
the UK and Ireland and theStates, so I'm assuming it's
happening in every country.
So when you see that kind ofthing and it's coming more to

(12:32):
light now, there's a lot ofpeople kind of realizing the
fraud that's going on.
There's even websites in the UK, there's the procurement files
and there's different things.
So when people see that it's acase of how do we protect
ourselves?
Not to tolerate it, not justassume this is us, because what
happens is people they're havingtheir own little battles and

(12:54):
they're they're assuming likeeveryone isn't coming to help
them because they're havingtheir battle and they're
assuming it's just them.
And so, for example, I know nowthat in Poland they're
attacking like the honey farmersI've heard of that recently.
So everyone like they're havingtheir battle and then someone
else.
Then they're going for thechicken farmers.

(13:14):
I know they're doing that inthe UK and they're having their
battle.
So we all need to come togetherand kind of go this isn't right,
instead of just waiting untilit comes to you.
Because when you see thecorruption go, how is this
possible?
And everybody goes through itat a certain level and when you
start opening up about whatyou've so many people that I've
talked about because I don't,I'm I'm okay talking what

(13:34):
happened and explaining thedifferent court cases and so
many people will actually starttelling you then their story.
But they're afraid to be forthat.
They they think it's shame andeverything.
And it's not.
That's just the way they turnoff the top of lending.
That's what they did foreveryone that got wiped out in
that crisis.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Wow, that's an outstanding story, man.
I'd love for you to get intosome of that stuff closer to the
end of the show about thatdifferent show and exposing the
fraud and the corruption andthat kind of stuff.
We need to hear that We've gotour head in the sand when it
comes to what goes on in theStates, much less globally, so I
just want to get into that asmuch as we can.
I'm so excited.
I'm like we have time for allthis stuff.
There's so much meat on thisbone.

(14:14):
But one of the things that youdo that I think is pretty
awesome is that you attacked oneof the biggest fears that most
people statistically deal with.
Matter of fact, it may be thenumber one fear, and that's
public speaking.
Talk to me about how youovercame what is probably the
number one fear in the world.
How do you overcome that?

Speaker 2 (14:34):
It's an incredible story.
I'll take it a layer back forus to show you how bad I was.
When I was younger, I wouldn'tgo to the shop.
I'd give my friend the money togo in and buy the sweets when I
was 18.
Go to the shop I'd give myfriend the money to go in and
buy the sweets.
When I was 18 in the bar Iwouldn't go up to the bar to buy
my round.
I'd give my friends the moneyto go up and get the round.
I was too embarrassed for thatand it was like even when I was
running kind of big jobs for themechanical contractor.

(14:57):
The one part I hated was themeetings.
It just like I used to getterrified and it.
You know that was the time Ididn't sleep at night, you know,
the day before, yeah.
So when I decided, with allthis corruption, I want to
expose this, the one thing I wasat an event and it was what's
your quest?
So that was my quest to exposeit.
But there was two brilliantspeakers and I said I need to

(15:18):
become a good speaker to get mymessage out.
So when I came back I said, allright, I'm going to go to a
Toastmasters got had, couldn'tgo on my own, went for two
friends and I said this isbrilliant.
And they said we don't havetime for this and I wouldn't go
back, because I was too shy togo back and the only reason I
joined is they formed a new cluba couple of months later and I

(15:40):
said all right, everyone's goingto be new, went there and they
said you're signing up?
Will you do a speech next week?
Yeah, and I kind of said tomyself I'd say yes for
everything.
I entered every competition.
I got into the final of fivecountries.
I did an open Mike TEDx.
I did open comedy.
I entered all competitionsPolish and English and just

(16:02):
basically overcame the fair andthen became a lot of people
asked me to be their mentor formy own club, toastmasters club,
went back to the one that I wasafraid to go on my own and
became a coach of a Finnish cluband became a distinguished
Toastmaster after three years,which is kind of the top kind of
position that you get in inToastmasters.
But it it was speaking, then thefare was gone and what I say to

(16:27):
people is we tell ourselves astory.
I told myself I'm not good atspeaking, I don't like it, and
I've interviewed so many peopleand I think it's come back to
school, because what happens ina lot of schools is they get you
to stand up as you're learningthe language and they get you to
read in front of the class Newwords.

(16:48):
You start stuttering, you startgetting I mean, I was
stuttering for a few yearsbecause of that.
I was terrified and they weremocking me and joking with me
and I think that stayed with meand there's so many people that
I talked to and they had similarexperience.
So many people have a badexperience from school.
So, instead of the teachers andencourages so make sure if

(17:09):
you've children, do not toleratethat.
Find out what they're going,because a lot of people they
just kind of let their kid gooff and go to the school and
it's like a babysitting serviceand you do it.
They don't even ask them whatthey're learning or who they're
doing.
Find out what they're doing and, as any teacher does something
like that, you do not tolerateit.
You put them in their place andthat's like the corruption as
well.
You stand up to the teachersthat are actually abusing the

(17:32):
children, because there are someteachers they shouldn't be
teachers, but unfortunately formost of them it's a job for life
and they're allowed in it.
And the only way it stops isall the kids stand up together
and they let their parents knowwhat's going on.
Who says, hey, this isn't right, and it's reported and nipped
in the bud fast.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, I love this.
There's definitely a theme witha lot of the work that you do
with regards to exposingcorruption.
I'm always all for that becauseI've always kind of because of
my upbringing, where I come from, I've seen so much of it and

(18:09):
I've seen the impact that it hadon communities and
neighborhoods like mine.
So I don't care for that.
Maybe I don't do enough,perhaps that could be fair, but
I'm definitely an advocate forexposing that kind of stuff.
What do you think prompted youto get into the mission of
exposing corruption?
I know it usually comes fromsomeplace personal, from
something that you came to gripswith, came face-to-face with.
What was it that made you jumpinto this mission, where you

(18:30):
felt like you know this isimportant.
I personally, roy, has to dosomething about this.
What was the trigger for that,for you to start addressing the
need to expose corruption?

Speaker 2 (18:44):
It was a lot of the court cases.
So I've had over 100 courtcases in Ireland as well and,
just like I remember this woman,she had a piece of paper.
It's strange In Ireland you'relike it was the high court and
there's like 100 barristers,which is the top level
solicitors or attorney, as youcall them.
It's not like you've just gotone side the other the top level
solicitors or attorney, as youcall them.
It's not like you've just gotone side, the other side with

(19:06):
our solicitors.
It's like everyone's in theroom with one judge and a woman
was there with a piece of paperand she was shaking and she says
my, my husband, died fromdistress and I don't know what
to do.
And the judge was like, yeah,I'm sorry about that, but
there's nothing I can do.
And it was.
It was like ruled in favor ofthe banks, plus interest, plus
penalties.
Another person went up and theysaid we got KPMG to investigate

(19:29):
.
We were overcharged 15,000 eurointerest.
When was that?
Two years ago?
Ah, you should have took it upwith them then.
Bank ruled in favor of thebanks, plus interest, plus
penalties.
And there were so many people Iknew and heard of that threw in
the towel.
You know like you're stressedit was.
I knew and heard of that aretrue, in the toll You're
stressed there was marriagebreakups, but when you know
somebody's, actually they'reunfortunately committing suicide

(19:50):
because of the stress of thisand it's all orchestrated.
It's a big game.
That was the mission for me.
I said this is wrong, they don'tcare, they're just laughing.
I mean, I was in the High Courtand the barrister was
pretending to me that oh, it'sin a different room and I was
like I don't trust him.
So I went down and asked thekind of reception area and
they're no, no, it's in thisroom.
If I didn't turn up I wouldhave lost.

(20:11):
And just seeing so many cases Ihad to go back and forth for
this high court eight times andI had to be there the whole
eight hours just listening toother cases and it was like
every single time, like yep,bank rule of the bank, plus
interest, plus penalties, nomatter what the story was.

(20:33):
And wow, that's unheard of, butI'm sure it's happening.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
That's awful man, it's happening everywhere.
So how would you describe whatyou're doing specifically,
because I know you have a, youknow a podcast regarding that.
I want to get into that in moredetail.
Definitely, uh, but what areyou doing specifically, ward, to
kind of address this from yourarea of influence, so to speak,
what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (20:59):
well, one of the things is I'm kind of how are
they able to do this?
How are they able to have fullcontrol of us?
So I went to like I'm an avidreader, so I read usually about
a hundred books a year and atthe time when I was going into
this, like to be honest, there'sa thing called an affidavit, so
they make a sworn statement.

(21:20):
I didn't even know what anaffidavit was.
I had to ask somebody what's anaffidavit and then I had to do
my sworn statement and theynever responded to it, which
means they should have thatproved.
I had them caught on theircorruption but I said how are
they able to do this?
So then I started studying kindof common law sovereignty in
the states they do ucc and stufflike that and I realized the

(21:41):
power of the signature.
It's like everything you do,they always ask you to sign it.
So you know, even if you're inlike in poland, they have it as
well in the market, jaywalking,and I get that.
If you're walking in front of acar and he has to jam on the
brakes, yeah that's grand.
But if there's nothing comingand you're waiting five minutes,
why should you stop and justwait like a fool to be?
You know just standing thereand they'll.

(22:02):
And what do they always do?
They go sign that.
They'll make you sign the pieceof paper which is basically
making you liable, making youpay for this.
And I realize the power of thesignature and the same in court.
You hear a lot of people goingwhat jurisdiction have you got
over me, what right have you got?
And they're getting in troublefor that.
And I say, and see, have theygot the power to get you into

(22:24):
the court first?
Because the way they write you,they're writing to you as the
capital, all capitals.
So for me to be Mr Roy callingall capitals, that's not me,
that's the corporate entity.
I'm Roy, the living soul.
I was born a free man, justlike you were.
Nobody's control over me, butyet they think they do.
And they're doing that in theStates and everything and same

(22:49):
with the prison thing.
That's like a complete.
The way that they're doing thatas well, like this, that's
slavery in itself.
The way that they're doing that.
I mean we know there's genuinecrimes, but a lot of the time
they're locking up people whenthey shouldn't.
And it's like understandingyou're right.
And what I would say to peopleis a lot of the time we kind of
go to the solicitor, thebarrister, the attorney to think
he's got our best side, he'slooking after us and most of the

(23:11):
time, unfortunately, it'sbillable hours is what they look
at and the only person thatwill protect you is yourself and
, as I mentioned, I had over 100court cases.
Most of the times that I won itwas based on me paying, paying
attention.
I had solicitors most of thetime and I'd be listening away
and I'd make a note and I'd passit to him and I wouldn't have
won only for me being payingattention.

(23:33):
And, unfortunately, a lot oftimes, just like the school,
like I said, most people justkind of you know, just say ask
Grant, let him off, the kid'sgoing to school.
Same with the solicitor he knowswhat he's doing.
He'll do it best, don't you?
You know yourself best and youhave to pay attention to
everything you're doing.
So I encourage everybody likelearn about common law, learn

(23:54):
about sovereignty.
Some people say natural law,just learn about our own power
very good advice.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Very good advice.
I said so many things I want toask you about I'm trying to
keep it all together here whatyou shared in regards to the
financial issues you had and youhad owned multiple properties
and just lost everything in yourhome, all your possessions.
A lot of folks don't really.
I think they might have missedthat early on in this

(24:21):
conversation.
We're talking about a $5million liability.
It's kind of hard to retain allthat you have when you owe much
more than what that stuff isworth, to lose everything.
Tell us how you were faced withlosing everything you had and
still had the drive to rebuildagain, because some folks would

(24:43):
be like you know what.
They almost lose your energy.
You lose your desire.
When you lose everything thatyou've built.
It's like starting over againis a bigger mountain that people
want to climb sometimes.
How did you decide?
You know what?
What drove you to say you knowwhat I have to.
I'm going to do this.
It's a daunting mountain toclimb again and restart
everything, to rebuild, but Idid it.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Tell us how you did that that's an amazing story,
man.
Yeah, so I mean it wasn't easy.
I did have times.
It was difficult getting out ofthe bed.
I mean it was kind of like, hey, I didn't do anything
fraudulent here.
What happened?
You know, I'm always hardworking.
Why, why did this happen?
And what helped me?
And this might help a lot ofpeople, because every day
there's someone going throughsome sort of battle.
There's a lot of foreclosuresgoing on, like in the States,

(25:30):
there's a high percentage ofpeople that go through
bankruptcy through medical bills.
It's bad enough that you'refighting an illness without
going through bankruptcy and thesame kind of thing, all these
things that you do.
Meditation helped me a lot.
So it was kind of I came acrossthe six phase meditation and

(25:50):
then I started to create my ownone and it was just kind of
mentally just relaxing andthinking, okay, what am I
grateful for?
Because what usually happenswhen people are losing
everything, you're thinking oflack, lack, lack.
I've lost, I've lost, I've lost.
But when you start thinking ofgratitude, you know like just
that you have a roof over yourhead, that you have food on your
table, that your child hasgiven you a cuddle that's you

(26:15):
know or that you've got supportfrom parents or whatever friends
.
You appreciate that and whenyou appreciate it, you start
attracting it.
And the next one that was veryimportant is the act of
forgiveness.
And I know one that was veryimportant is the act, the act of
forgiveness.
And I know lots of peoplewhether it's relationships,
there's people have hatred forso many different things and
what happens is you're thinkingof oh dear the court case, is
the builder that done this, thatwas frozen?

(26:35):
So many different people thatdid different things.
I said, all right, I need toforgive them.
And some were easy, but therewas others, they were big
numbers, they were hard and I Iwas struggling.
I was like, each time trying todo it and how I achieved it is I
brought them back to the child.
I said when you have a baby,we've unconditional love for a
child.
You know yourself, baby, grabyour finger, it's beautiful.
So it was like, yeah, I broughtthem back to the child.

(26:58):
I said they were born free,they were born without anything
bad, but due to externalcircumstances whether it was an
abusive parent, alcoholic parentor the parents were working so
hard that they just let thechild out on their own and they
hung around with the wrong crowd.
Then they became who they were.

(27:19):
So the hatred left when I'd doneit that way and what it
actually done is it freed itfrom me, because when we have
hatred, it's in ourselves.
We're burning and we'rethinking.
They're not thinking about us,but we're thinking and we're
angry.
And whether it's a relationship, whatever it is, if you free
that, it's no longer there andthen you can tell the story
without getting emotional, youcan move on and life becomes

(27:43):
better and you for me, becomingmore mindful, more present, not
looking for building wealth forthe future.
It's like every day I want toenjoy, nobody knows when, when
our day comes and it's like didI enjoy this day today and plan
to live to over 100?
You know, don't, don't live inhope, thinking asher, it sure

(28:05):
it'll work itself out.
Plan as well, but also bepresent and I think the
forgiveness really helped me.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Which we appreciate you attract.
I love that.
That's some good stuff rightthere.
You mentioned about readingaround 100 books a year.
I know some people it mighthave went over their head like
how many.
Some people struggle to read 10a year, matter of fact.
Some people struggle to readfour or five.
I know a few of those folks.
I don't count how many I read.
I read a lot but I don't reallykeep track of how many it is,

(28:34):
but I'm pretty sure it's not 100.
Tell us how you accomplishedthat.
What was the process and eventhe reason for why you even
decided to read 100 books a year.
What was the idea behind thatand how are you doing that?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
I was always kind of an avid reader and then it just
I found I get so much pleasurein reading and even you know,
sometimes with people coming onthe show they'd say they'd say,
send you a pdf.
I said I don't want a pdf, Iwant the book.
I want a physical book to belooking at and I know you can
even still listen to an audiobook as well.
You know there's audible, youknow, but it's not the same.

(29:10):
I find that I don't make thenotes.
I like to be kind of actioningthe book so and I like to read a
few books.
What I found is what we tend todo is we read a book and you
either love the book and youread it in a few days, or even
in a day, or it's already, andthen you kind of drag it out to
the month or whatever.
But when you're reading a fewbooks, you just hop and you'll

(29:33):
end up reading way more.
So like I'm reading a youtubebook now because I'm trying to
improve that, I'm readingchapters and that just finished
one on a cark from who burnedcark city.
So they burned my city in 1920.
And yeah, and it was like allsworn statements about the
people in that and it's justinteresting.
I like to read a lot on kind ofthe corruption stuff as well,

(29:55):
and medical and health, becausethere are things that I like to
share.
So, with the information I'mlearning, it allows me then to
share that in conversationsduring the podcast, which will
benefit the listeners.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
I love that.
I love that.
Like I said, there's so much.
All right, so we'll come backto the podcast.
I want to talk about that andwhat you're doing with virtual
assistants.
I want to come back to that.
But let's get into this is amedia subject for you and I,
because we spent a lot of timetalking about this since we've
met, and that is the wholesocial media situation, if you

(30:33):
will.
We shared our struggles withsocial media.
What we're seeing, we see somethings that we would consider
some corruption and some shadybehavior on social media, but I
want to hear your thoughts onthat, where that came from, what
kind of experiences you had,because a lot of people who I
know listen to our show and whowatch us on our YouTube channel.

(30:56):
They have similar complaints.
I would venture to say themajority of them don't do
anything about it.
They kind of just either try toavoid it or some very few they
just close that channel off andsay you know what I'm done with
this, they uninstall the app andthey don't go back to it and
they walk around with more peacethan they had before because

(31:16):
they don't see all of the junkthat they would normally see.
You have to deal with all of thestress and if their posts are
being seen, and trying to fightan unseen algorithm just all of
the nonsense that social mediais supposed to be.
We should be in our population.
Social media should besomething that we can control.
It should be our own experience.

(31:36):
We go in and see the thing thatwe enjoy.
Do you want to see puppies allday long?
Then go to go to your socialmedia and you can be able to see
all the puppies you want.
If that makes you happy, that'sfine.
We can't control that.
We have to jump through allthese hoops and see things that
people want us to see, thingsthat we're not interested in,
have to block and try to deleteand get things away from the
actual enjoyment that we want tohave on social media.

(31:59):
So, man, besides that andsafety and security issues go
Roy, social media, jump in,brother I.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
And safety and security issues go roy social
media, jump in, brother I gotyour back at an early stage when
I was doing the real estate,because I was trying to I'm like
an early adapter with a lot ofthis stuff.
So I've got my name for youknow, linkedin and facebook and
things like that and and thenyou do paid ads and I found that
if you're doing the paid ads,then the organic disappeared and

(32:28):
I was like, ok, this is strange.
And then I found out that bothFacebook and Google were caught
for doing that.
So that's well known and I'vebeen my awakening when got
kicked off YouTube.
I got strikes.

(32:48):
I got strikes for a personexposing the education system
and I was like why would you?
I mean it's not as if I'msaying something desperate like
you want to X, there's somenasty stuff on that.
Like I don't want to see that.
I go in there and I'm sharingstuff because it's easy to share
with a lot of platform, butit's just constantly putting up
really negative stuff and I likethe problem is there's kids

(33:10):
going in looking at this andthey can see really horrible
stuff and the algorithms usuallyis kind of like if, because I
can go into some of them.
And I like watching comedy youknow comedians on stage because
makes me laugh.
I enjoy it.
You kind, especially with someof the topics that I do, I go
down deep holes and you justwant a bit of escapism and you
don't want to be kind ofthinking like that.

(33:31):
Sure, on some of the platformsthey're showing me stuff that
hey, why are you showing me thisfar?
And then I can even say, hey,do you want to see this, do you
want to see this?
They keep showing it.
And on I had a friend who was inother way.
You'd have a few people thatsupport you all the time.
Mothers always support me.
You know you have a few friendsthat are always giving the

(33:51):
thumbs up for your posts andeverything.
And he said I know I gave Roy athumbs up on this post and it's
gone.
And he went back to all hisposts and every single thumbs up
.
So yeah, and and I know I'mshadowbinding now if you start
asking people, hey, who see,like you see no engagement
whatsoever with a lot of stuff,and then you put up something

(34:12):
stupid, it's like, yeah, there'sa hundred people you know
giving a heart or whatever, andyou're going.
That's not right, they're notshowing it yeah you know, so
that they don't want to do itand like I think it called
purity.
I put it on like the pod forthe thing.
It's like a two, three minute.
So that's one of the thingsthat I've actually done to share
with people, to get rid of theadvertisements that you see in

(34:35):
Facebook, because before it usedto be good, you know you'd see
stuff, you'd be doing stuff.
If you're playing sport, I'd belike, hey, I know keeping in
contact, and then when you meetyou feel closer.
That stopped.
It's like ad after ad.
You know you're scrollingthrough, you're seeing 10 ads
before you see a picture ofsomebody and then they're just.
So there's ways of actuallygetting rid of that, that you
can get rid of the ads that yousee, but I don't trust any of

(34:57):
them.
The way that the algorithms areworking and most of the time
people are just pitching Like.
Most of the time people arejust pitching like there was a
scam that happened me at onestage.
There was a company that wasdoing lead generation and I
always do, I'm always helpingpeople.
I got not and I spot things, Igo away, do loads of research.
I got caught myself, which isscrewed right.
They did over a thousand peopleon facebook, on linkedin, I had

(35:20):
a call with your man.
I saw there was videotestimonials talking about them
of three different people and II was like grand, it was 500
bucks.
And it turned out that theywere like fraudulent.
I reported it to linkedin, Ireported it to facebook.
I I even got on it to the.
It was in pakistan.
I got on to the police there.
They said no, I used to do itthere, remitly who the

(35:43):
transaction was done by.
I reported to them.
They kicked me out.
And when I started saying, hey,what are you kicking me out for
?
So, and linkedin still has themup there, facebook still has
them up there.
So, wow, if these companies andI had all the proof to show,
hey, and it wasn't that Ithought I'd get my money back.

(36:03):
I thought this is, but I don'twant the next guy to get caught
and they're not protecting him.
So this is kind of how, becausesometimes we think we can't do
nothing.
I was talking to you prior torecording about what happened to
me just today.
There was this company.
It was like Calendly, a booking, and they booked something.
So I thought, okay, they justwant to have a conversation with
me to tell me about theirsystems, so that I'll jump from

(36:26):
one to the other and then, acouple of minutes beforehand,
they cancel.
And then they have a messagesaying oh, you don't like when
this happens, but you can book acall with us.
It was like slimy marketing.
And the problem is you knowyour hours are valuable.
You don't like.
Yeah, sometimes somebody can'tmake it, they get sick or poor.
That's all grand, but whensomebody does it intentionally,

(36:46):
that's different.
So I went on Trustpilot, I wenton Google Review, I went into
their post on Facebook.
It took me 10 minutes, but I'llmake sure that and by doing
that I've done the same withRemitly.
When they've done that to me.
When you do that, you'reletting them know.
Hey, I'm not tolerating that.

(37:07):
And if I'm buying something, I'malways looking at the reviews.
And I don't know about you, butthe first thing I do is I don't
look at the top ones, becausewhy I look at the negative?
You'll always have negative ina few things, but when you see a
certain percentage, a highpercentage 10, 15, 20 percent
and what they say, lots of timesI make my decision not to
actually purchase from a certaincompany based on that.

(37:29):
So if something like thathappens, you do the same thing.
You know, don't think you're,they don't like that.
I mean, there was time therewas a rental company that I got
in Spain.
The car got broken into,everything was taken and they
didn't cover me and basically Isaid there was no alarm or
anything.
So I just went away to write areview and they're contacting me

(37:52):
straight away.
Hey, contact us.
They don't like that.
You know.
You might think.
Just accept it as it is.
When something happens to youthat you know is fraudulent,
take screenshots, put it up,like I took the screenshot of
their thing today.
The one hash is called itbecome.
They put it, put it up exactly.
So it's not just me sayingsomething, I'm going here.
Look, I took a picture ofexactly what it is.

(38:12):
So if you back up, it evenreinforces what you're saying.
It's not just because sometimesyou can have people that are
like trolls doing things likethat, but when you show it and
you have backup.
Plus, if somebody goes intotrust pilot, they see I review
things nice as well.
I'm not just one of thesepeople that goes negative.
Negative when somebody does agood service goes above and
beyond.
Do that as well.
You know, make sure, hey,you're supporting the, the local

(38:34):
guy, instead of the bigcorporations.
And that way then, becausesometimes you can go in, you can
see someone's profile and youknow straight away I had this
guy just giving negativecomments to everybody.
But if you're being open andhonest, give positive comments,
five stars when they're deserved, and reverse it, people then
say, okay, this guy, he's a guyI can trust.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
I love that man.
That's really good.
We gotta just stand it up forourselves.
I think we take it on the chinway too much when it comes to
this kind of stuff.
And what you said about thereviews yeah, sometimes I look
at the ones on the top.
I usually go through all ofthem as much as I can just to
see if I got a good balance.
If I hear more negative, I'mnot going to buy that stuff.

(39:16):
So, yeah, I definitely get that.
But you said something aboutyour hours being valuable.
It's a great segue into thevirtual assistant question that
I have for you.
Kind of talk about what you'redoing and perhaps give away with
people who are interested inusing a virtual assistant.
First tell them why you thinkthey would need that and how

(39:38):
they can access your service.
If you don't mind sharing thatreal quick and we'll move on to
the end of our show.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
No, problem, like where it kind of came from.
Like I did recruitment at onestage when the Polish were
coming to Ireland.
I set up a recruitment.
I had a recruitment license butwhen I moved I had to pass that
on.
So I had experience withrecruitment anyway.
And when I was doing thepodcasting I was outsourcing.
A few times I'd use Fiverr orI'd use Upwork and so many times
they'd be telling me how goodthey are and it was like I was

(40:07):
spending hours just trying totalk to them and it was
frustrating.
And then with Upwork you getscreenshots so they're supposed
to go.
Oh yeah, I know he's working,but I was seeing screenshots of
Facebook and I was like, allright, I see Facebook, facebook,
what's he doing?
And I think a lot of them havea laptop and then they're
working on something else andthey're just taking the

(40:27):
screenshot because it takeswhatever every five minutes or
whatever that you know ifthey're showing so many hours
they're working for.
So I didn't like that and theway we're kind of doing it is.
I mean, a lot of people theyprefer the hourly for the
virtual assistant we can provide, but what I, what we do, is
like packages.
So if somebody wants the shortscreated.
We can do that if they want thewebsite and all the changes
depending.
If it's accounting, you know wecan do all the different things

(40:49):
, but we like to do it onpackages, so you know what needs
to be done, so you're gettingthe service based on that and
you, you don't have to belooking over your shoulder and
checking it all the time,because that's the purpose of
having a virtual assistant, soyou, you actually get more work
done.
And if you're, say, coachingand you're making money per hour
, you don't want to be spendingit on social media and just, you
know, creating charts andthings like that, because it

(41:09):
takes hours.
It's kind of needed and it'sbetter to do it with somebody
that can do it cheaper andyou're making more money.
And yeah, I think I encourageeveryone.
I mean, we don't push a sale.
We do a little call with peopleon what they want, we find out
exactly how it is and a lot oftimes people you know we're on
about trust and everything.

(41:30):
We've got the office where mypartner has the access to the
accounts, but the employeesdon't.
They're just working on it.
So we're even protecting them,even though they're totally
vetted, the people there.
But because a lot of people areafraid, given the passwords, I
know, like, say, for YouTube andstuff, you can have eight or
some of them you can, there'ssome you can't.

(41:50):
And to actually do all thebells and whistles sometimes you
need full access.
But we've never beencompromised and for me you have
to protect the person's socialmedia or whatever passwords
they're using.
You know, even if it's accessto the podcast, you know getting
analytics and things like that,and they know that they're safe

(42:12):
.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
I love that man because that's something I've
been thinking about ever since Istarted doing the podcast in
2020.
I realized that all the thingsthat podcasters and content
creators have to do on aday-to-day basis whether it be
marketing, promotions, postingon social media every time you
have new content I realized thatI don't enjoy that.

(42:37):
So the idea of a virtualassistant was something I've
always wondered.
If you're going to have thatopportunity, you definitely have
it.
So, if you can, after the showon our YouTube channel in the
comment section under theepisode, if you could drop the
link to where people can go touse your virtual assistant
package and services, that wouldbe awesome.
I remind you again as we getoff air.

(42:58):
But let's talk about thepodcast.
You launched six podcasts, orfour of them were in the top 0.5
percent of all podcasts, whichis outstanding.
Amazing.
You've recorded over 1500episodes, which is also
fantastic.
You edited each one yourself,which is like.
I don't know how you did that,but bless you, sir.
But tell us about what youthink is the best way to grow

(43:20):
your podcast.
You obviously have success inthat area and even myself can.
I can stand and learn from you,man.
So what would the best way togrow your podcast, in your
opinion?

Speaker 2 (43:30):
well, the six actually have got into the top
five and sometimes they'llfluctuate what some people
they'll they're assuming,because those times I will say,
coach, I'm somebody, come in,they just and they expect that
it's a simple thing, that, oh,I'm just doing this and that's
why I've got it.
It's systemizing everything,like we had our conversation.

(43:54):
We had a decent conversationprior to thing and I I said
straight away like what you'redoing, I knew straight away it's
.
It's a decent conversationbecause you're trying to.
One thing you said to me is Iwant to give good value to my
audience.
A lot of people, their ego getsin the way.
It's all about them, them, them, them.
And, most important thing is adecent conversation because if

(44:16):
someone's going to come back,they enjoy the conversation or
they'll share it.
And when you constantly thinkabout your listeners and care
about your listeners, it's likeif you're speaking on stage,
you're looking at, you're seeingthe engagement, you're seeing
how they're reacting and it'sthe same thing with the thing
you have.
They're still people.
You just don't see them andsometimes you'll see the
comments and you kind of getgood feedback and everything.

(44:37):
But when you care for yourthat's one of the most important
things does like the name aswell.
Like you have the name, youhave the website.
Like I think why mine have beensuccessful is
speakingpodcastcom.
It's like it's in the searchmeditation podcast.
You know the crypto podcast,learn Polish podcast.

(44:58):
The name and I have the domainthat's related to that.
So I feel that's good the nameand I have the domain that's
related to that, so I feelthat's good.
Also, the graphic I use,because a lot of times people
they have, when they're lookingat the graphic, create the
graphic.
They've got the big screen andthey're looking at and they go
oh, that looks beautiful.
What does it look like whenit's a small little box in with
a hundred others on the Spotifyor on iTunes?

(45:20):
Does it stick out?
And a lot of the times itdoesn't, or they'd have too much
text.
There's like a load of writingand everything.
So there are little things.
Regarding marketing, for example, the Polish one.
I mean we're both great fans ofFacebook, but I found it to
work.

(45:40):
For me.
It's like the groups, because alot of times people they'll
create their podcast and they'lljust blast it out onto Facebook
and that's it.
That's not where your listenersare.
I mean, just because they'refriends with you doesn't mean
they want to listen to yourpodcast, so just be aware of
that straight away.
So what you do is who wouldactually like my podcast?
So for me, okay.

(46:01):
Foreigners in Poland,foreigners in Warsaw, polish in
Chicago.
Polish in New York.
Polish in the UK.
Polish in Ireland I was findingthere's about 50 groups that I
shared the show to.
And is it easy?
Before it was easy.
You just hit the box, you go,but then Facebook changed things
around.
I know you have to do itindividually, so hence why my
team does it, but it works.

(46:23):
And there's also a littlesecret as well.
Some people are aware of it infacebook.
When somebody comes in and theylike the short that you do or
the video that you put up, youcan hit the like button and then
invite them to your page, andthat's something that I've got
in the habit of, and it justconstantly increases, which

(46:44):
means that they're seeing itthen and then they're
interacting.
There's even people that willshare it, and when I see
somebody sharing my post, Ialways go in and comment and say
thanks for sharing, or just puta heart or something like that,
and it just grows and it'shaving systems in place because
a lot of people.
They do three shows, they do 10shows, they try on the toilet.

(47:05):
That takes so much work andit's like, okay, what, what
don't I like doing?
What can I outsource and justcompress the time, like when I
was doing the.
The first few shows I was doingin person with people and I was
like, all right, this takes alot of time, because most people
weren't even.
It was like their first podcast.
I was taking them an hour or sojust to, you know, have a

(47:26):
coffee and chill them out andget them to relax, but then
afterwards you were havinganother conversation, so it was
half a day.
Then I started converting tozoom.
When I was editing, I was usingaudacity, I was taking out all
the pauses I was.
Then I was listening again,making sure it was okay, and now
I don't I like I even stoppeddoing the intro and the outro.
I say it on the show and I usedto speaker view.

(47:48):
I've done the split splitscreen because I'm constantly
going what's working, I'mlooking at all the different
things and it's like you have tograb people's attention fast
and if there's me just going fora minute, even hi, welcome to

(48:08):
the show, they're gone.
You, you know, even that couldbe the best show in the world.
They're gone.
So what I do is the otherperson is there, they're seeing
it.
I say it fast, but then I sayokay, and what?
The guest is now?
So then they'll hear what, what, what it's going to be about.
And even there's one say on theway, I do a weekly one with my
business partner and what wewere doing is we're playing with
it all the time, trying toimprove it, and like then we're
saying, okay, today we're goingto talk about bum, bum, bum, bum
.
And I was even going okay, no,we've put in graphics, so I'm

(48:31):
scrolling.
I mean, I've seen that onyoutube, the ones, but it costs
a lot of money to do, like theexplosions.
And if somebody's talking about, say, the plant, and then the
screen goes to the plant growingand all this, that's all grand,
it's all doable, but it'sexpensive to do.
You know, you need there'ssometimes there's people.
I know they have peoplefull-time doing that.
So that's grand if you've gotthe budget to do that.

(48:51):
Most people don't.
So what I've done, we just havelike little pictures and I'm
just saying, today we're goingto talk about bum health and we
have a picture of health.
We're talking about chewing gum, bang and somebody blowing a
bubble, but what it is is it'slike it's a minute or 30 seconds
of boom, boom, boom and it'sgrabbing your attention and you
hear something.
Oh, that sounds interesting.
And I also do the time stance.

(49:11):
I mean I was asking so manypeople how to do this.
I eventually found it out.
You just put down zero the timeclock, zero, zero, point, zero,
zero, what it's the start, andthen you know 30.25 certain
topics.
So what happens is, if you'reonly interested in, say, the
djungum, you just hit that andit fast forwarded to it.
So you're catering for thelisteners instead of making them

(49:34):
.
And it's just constantlywatching and like I'm everything
I do.
How can I be better?
I mean, I still sign up forcourses I train.
Sometimes a guy probably won'tlearn anything from this.
There was one on monetization.
There was one thing I got fromit and that was worth it for me
to share with others.
So it's like just constantlylook being the different groups,
and I mean I with the pod forthe one I'm, if that's for kind

(49:56):
of helping podcasters and I'm Iwas originally doing it myself,
just doing two to five minutesof tips because I want people to
stay in the game.
I don't want them listening tocnn and bbc because they're just
regurgitating lies.
So podcasters can actuallyshare some very good information
and that way, when you'relistening to a podcast, you're

(50:19):
able to get information that youwant and and the thing is a lot
of times on shows people, theyhave to be there at a certain
time, but you can be ironing andlistening to a podcast.
You can be cycling, take thedog for a walk and if you're
paying attention to all thecomments that you're getting,

(50:40):
you're then catering for thatand what I do?
I look at the analytics you'regetting.
You're then catering for thatand what I do?
I look at the analytics.
All right, my, it's strange, but50 of all of my podcasts are in
the us.
It's a high percentage in theuk.
I make sure I cover items inthat.
No point in me.
I mean.
It doesn't mean that I'm notcovering africa and different
places like that, but I'llalways make sure that there's
something relevant with that.

(51:00):
And I mean there's a lot ofguests that come from these
countries as well.
But there's no point in talkingabout ireland when there's maybe
one percent is from ireland.
I mean, most people would belike everything is ireland, but
that's not my audience.
So and it's all little things.
Pay attention to the smallthings, have little systems in
place and by doing that, like Ihave an excel sheet and what I

(51:24):
do is I try to grow everythingby one percent weekly so I have
the number of shows and what theaverages are, the followers,
and it's like I do a colorcoding thing.
It's like when it goes up halfpercent it's yellow, when it's
one percent it's green, whenit's two percent I have it
purple.
I don't want red on my thing,so I mentioned I use the traffic
lights.
It's not the traffic lights,because there's no purple in

(51:46):
traffic light, but basicallywhat I try to do is get as much
purple as I can, and the reasonthat that helps is sometimes I
look at it.
Why isn't that moving?
I forgot to post this, I forgotto put it on bit shoot, I
forgot to share this one and itjust allows me to be watching
the numbers, which in turn helpsthem grow.
But it's not all about thenumbers.
I mean, as I say to people, ifyou had the conversation like

(52:08):
this conversation today, if itreached the one person and
changed their life or helpedthem, would we still have the
conversation?
And we would, because if youknow someone is benefiting, and
not to be thinking, oh, I needto get 10 million or I need to
get a thousand or two thousand,even if there's like 10, 10 or
20, like we were talking aboutthe public speaking, like if 20

(52:30):
people are listening to yourshow.
If you went into a room andthere's 20 people sitting there
to listen to you, you'd bedelighted.
And if you said they're goingto next week, they're going to
be there again and you come backand maybe two left and two new
people come in their tree.
You keep doing that but forsome reason people think they're
a failure if they're gettingnumbers like that and podcasting
.
And just remember, the numbersare actually people, it's just

(52:51):
that you don't see them yeah,yes, we got so much to learn.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
That's what I'm, that's what I'm learning from
you today as podcasters.
We got so much to learn, somuch much to grow on man, but
this conversation has beenawesome.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Does your podcast have a YouTube channel?
Youtube is actually my name,that's where I call it.
So I have what I've done andit's just for people that
sometimes people have like twoshows or two businesses.
You can have playlists, so whenpeople go in then they can go
after it.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Like crypto.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
They just hit the because, instead of me having 10
different, channels fordifferent businesses no, it's
too much.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
So that way, exactly my I play this for mine, so I'm
gonna I'm gonna find you andsubscribe on that today.
Definitely want to do that, man, but before I let you go, we
talked about a lot of differentsubjects.
Anybody that's a podcaster orcontent creator, obviously.
If you were, if you're, youlearned something about your
process how to install somesystems to kind of help you do

(53:48):
things more efficientlyFantastic stuff.
We talked about public speaking, the need and value in virtual
assistants, starting your ownbusiness and being an
entrepreneur man.
You got so much in you, man, soI'm just so excited about this
conversation that we had today.
I'm going to definitelyprobably hear it again and again
, because there was some nuggetsin there that I might have
missed myself.
So I'm excited about that Forall you guys that are listening.

(54:11):
Please, when you get a chance,jump onto our YouTube channel At
TheyCallMeMrU.
I'd love for you guys to likeshare, subscribe there.
Check out this episode, whichwill be on probably within the
next 30 minutes from now.
By all means, subscribe to thechannel.
Also, check out Roy's work.
The Podfather, for one is afantastic podcast.

(54:32):
I think it's going to be valuefor you there, especially if
you're a content creator, giveyou some ideas and some ways to
maximize what you do and notwaste so much time.
He's really good at sharingthat, but thanks for supporting
him and for supporting our show.
Any closing thoughts morebefore we close out.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Man, anything you want to say to the people well,
just, a lot of times peoplethink should I start a podcast?
You know, do I need to?
You know is it worth it?
And if you have a skill set,that will make the world a
better place.
If you can change one person'slife for the better, do it.
It's not hard.
I'm not a technical person.
It is simple.
You just there's systems inplace, there's ways to do it.

(55:10):
Editing is easy.
It's not something that'sdifficult and if you can do it,
there's so much passion and, asyou know yourself, when you're
actually editing and listeningagain, you're going wow, you
enjoy the conversation yourself.
When you're listening back,your life is changing for the
better by having guests comingon.
I mean, my life has totallychanged from the guests that
I've had.
I mean there's things that Inever knew and like I even say

(55:32):
that on some of my shows, justbecause I say something, don't
take it as gospel, go away anddo your own research, but at
least let me plant the seed andsee does this make sense?
So what I say to people is goin, start one.
I'm not saying you need me, youcan, even even if you've got
budgets.
The stuff I even do online,free, free classes on the

(55:53):
YouTube does like half an hourto help you get started.
So I cater for everybody.
So, even if somebody can'tstart, just go in and do it and
you know, listen to yourself, Imean, just watch the way that
you're doing it, and they learna lot by doing it.
And what I would say to peopleis you know he's asked to give
you a thumbs up and all that,but also comment, comment on
what you thought and differentpoints, because what that will
do not only learn from thecomments, but also if the

(56:15):
algorithms, the way they work,they go.
Oh, this is interesting.
So you might think that doesn'tmean nothing and this is an
important one actually, how Ilearned about the youtube
getting more subscribers.
My computer was my YouTube wastied onto the telly at one stage
and my youngest child, he's 11.
He was watching, he was gettinginto magic and the guys would
say give us a thumbs up and hewas reaching for it and I was

(56:37):
like I enjoy so much content andI look at it and I was never
doing that.
So now I make it a habit If Ilike something, I give it a
thumbs up or I give a comment,because you're actually helping
them, people to get out to moreand the stuff that's not
beneficial to society, don'tbother.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Yeah well, thank you very much, man.
I appreciate the support there.
Please stay in touch.
I want to have you back on hereagain.
I'm sure there'll be some newdevelopments.
Can't wait to talk to you aboutthose.
Please support Roy Collin man.
Fantastic guys you heard Verywell-rounded, a lot of
experience, a lot of area.
I'm sure he can help you out,man, but we are excited about
what we heard today.
Please go back and listen andplease, of course, go to both of

(57:18):
our YouTube channels Pleaselike, share, thumbs up,
subscribe and Please like, share, thumbs up, subscribe and leave
a comment so we know whatyou're thinking.
Maybe it'll provide value forsomebody else who's watching.
So thanks again for everything.
We had a great time today.
Hope for more great times tocome.
Thanks, roy, appreciate you somuch man.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Enjoy everybody.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Enjoy everybody.
Bye.
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