Two Point Conversion with BYU Football: A Gospel Discussion Podcast
BYU Football players are best known for their exploits on the football field. But in this podcast, they will share insights and testimony of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Join the Cougars and their guests as they dive into the scriptures and give unique insights into the Come Follow Me lessons from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Episodes
April 21, 2025 • 57 mins
It's a family affair on this episode of Two Point Conversion. Guest Trevor Pay joined his brother Connor and fellow host Chase Roberts. Trevor shared a powerful story on the power of prayer from his mission for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The trio also talked about prioritizing what God wants you to do right now and how turning to Heavenly Father can help you cope with the stress of everyday life.
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April 14, 2025 • 57 mins
Chase Roberts and Connor Pay host Kim B. Clark on this episode of their podcast. Elder Clark, an emeritus general authority of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and a professor at Brigham Young University, joins them to discuss insights from the Church's most recent General Conference. They explore the profound impact of Jesus Christ on their lives, emphasizing how life would be miserable without Him. Elder Clark also...
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April 7, 2025 • 56 mins
New BYU Cougar Keanu Tanuvasa joined Chase Roberts and Connor Pay to share why he felt led by God to return to Provo for a second time. Keanu previously served a mission for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Provo and has now joined the Cougars after playing football for the Utah Utes. In Doctrine and Covenants 30-36, several men were called by God to preach and teach. The trio discussed bearing their testimony of ...
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March 31, 2025 • 64 mins
Grace Freeman, now co-hosting the "Don't Miss This" YouTube show, joined Chase Roberts and Connor Pay to discuss her transition into the role previously held by her mother, Emily Belle Freeman. They explored the concept of mighty prayer and Grace's journey to develop a deeper love for prayer. Chase shared his experiences encouraging his football teammates to pray during meetings, emphasizing the importance of practicing prayer. The...
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March 24, 2025 • 66 mins
BYU Religion Professor Ross Baron joined Connor Pay and Chase Roberts to share his journey from Judaism to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Professor Baron explained how reading the New Testament led him to seek a copy of The Book of Mormon. The trio then explored the similarities between Jesus instituting the sacrament and Passover. Additionally, they discussed the benefits of trials, with Professor Baron sharing h...
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March 17, 2025 • 56 mins
BYU adjunct professor Chelsea Chipman joins Chase Roberts and Connor Pay to discuss the faith and afflictions of Emma Smith. Connor and Chase share their personal experiences of turning to God during challenging moments in football. The trio also explore the importance of patience during afflictions and how sacred music can help you feel the Holy Ghost.
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March 10, 2025 • 55 mins
Chase Roberts and Connor Pay are joined by Brigitte Madrian, the dean of BYU's Marriott School of Business. Brigitte shares how organizing a start-up business parallels the formation of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The trio discusses the importance of being outward-focused, like Jesus Christ, and how the sacrament resembles the business practice of securing repeat customers. Brigitte then explains how her servic...
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March 3, 2025 • 53 mins
New BYU Football offensive lineman Andrew Gentry discusses his transfer to BYU with Connor Pay and Chase Roberts and how his decision was not solely predicated on money. Gentry also shares that his injury last season was the lowest point of his life, but the Savior understood his sorrow. The trio also discusses living consecrated lives, how God's love is eternal, and why it's important to pray vocally.
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February 24, 2025 • 54 mins
BYU Professor of Marketing BJ Allen joins Chase Roberts and Connor Pay to discuss the revelation on the calling of the Twelve Apostles. The trio explores receiving revelation through reading the scriptures, addressing doubts, and seeking answers. They emphasize the importance of every soul to God. BJ Allen also shares his motivations for writing his book, "The Compensating Power of Christ: How Christ's Atonement Rights the Wrongs o...
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February 17, 2025 • 64 mins
David Butler, the host of the YouTube show "Don't Miss This," joins Connor Pay and Chase Roberts to discuss how God's work always involves people and bringing them back to Him. Dave emphasizes that the restoration of the gospel of Jesus Christ is not just a series of events but a desired outcome by Heavenly Parents. The trio also explore the concept of finding eternal life in the present and the joy of living a life modeled after J...
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February 10, 2025 • 61 mins
In this week's podcast episode, BYU Religion Professor Hank Smith joins Connor Pay and Chase Roberts. Professor Smith emphasizes that the real concern isn't knowing too much Church history, but rather knowing too little. The trio delves into the topic of experiencing significant losses in our lives and how God can help us feel whole again. They also discuss the idea that private victories in life eventually lead to public triumphs,...
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February 3, 2025 • 66 mins
BYU Football Linebacker Ace Kaufusi joins Chase Roberts and Connor Pay to discuss revelations given to Oliver Cowdery through Joseph Smith. The trio delves into the importance of seeking wisdom over riches. Connor shares a personal story about being blessed for staying at BYU instead of pursuing money at another school. They also explore receiving revelation during afflictions, the virtue of patience while seeking God's wisdom, and...
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January 27, 2025 • 83 mins
Steve and Toni Caplin join Connor Pay and Chase Roberts for this week's podcast episode. Steve and Toni served as mission president and wife in Washington, DC, where Connor served his mission for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. As you can imagine, there are plenty of stories involving Connor as a missionary. The group discussed how to take chastisement from the Lord and our leaders and how we can become Christlike ...
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January 20, 2025 • 77 mins
Connor Pay and Chase Roberts are joined by BYU Religion Professor Gerrit Dirkmaat, a historian who contributed to the Joseph Smith Papers. Professor Dirkmaat explains the organization of the Doctrine and Covenants and the reasons behind the later addition of certain revelations. The trio also discuss Joseph Smith's process of learning line upon line, his experiences before the angel Moroni's visit, and the temptations he faced whil...
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January 13, 2025 • 82 mins
In the first episode of season 2, BYU Football's Chase Roberts are and former Cougar Center Connor Pay are joined by General Authority Seventy Elder Michael A. Dunn of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He's also the former managing director of BYU Broadcasting. The trio talk about the perfect timing of the First Vision. and being criticized for your beliefs. They finish the episode by recounting experiences of overco...
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December 23, 2024 • 70 mins
In this special episode, two missionaries in training from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints join BYU Football players Connor Pay and Chase Roberts. Elder Puefua of Bountiful, UT, and Elder Stocking from Idaho Falls, ID share why they both decided to serve a mission for Jesus Christ to The Marshall Islands and Peru. They talk about life in the Missionary Training Center and then ask Connor and Chase about staying comm...
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December 16, 2024 • 68 mins
The Spirit of Christmas and giving permeates this podcast episode featuring the mothers of BYU Football players Chase Roberts and Connor Pay. Jessica Roberts talks about how, like the shepherds visited by angels, we should act in haste. Jeana Pay talks about "showing up" like Jesus Christ. The group also discusses Christmas service and traditions.
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December 9, 2024 • 71 mins
BBYU Football players Chase Roberts and Connor Pay invite their marketing professor, Mike Bond, into the podcast to talk about the last three chapters of the Book of Mormon. The trio talks about sticking to the basics of faith in Christ, hope in Christ, and having charity for our fellow man. They also discuss the father and son relationship between Mormon and Moroni, God's miracles and the miracle with one of BYU Football's True Bl...
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December 1, 2024 • 66 mins
This week's guest is Austen Lamber, a Stanford PhD student and former Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints mission companion of BYU Football player Connor Pay. Austen, Connor, and fellow Cougar Chase Roberts discuss the importance of the sacrament, always having the Holy Ghost with you (even during football practices and games), and why Christ's Church should meet together often.
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November 25, 2024 • 65 mins
BYU Religion Professor Tyler Griffin had no problem making gospel analogies with the game of football when discussing Ether chapter 12 with BYU Football players Connor Pay and Chase Roberts. In this podcast episode, the group how faith in Jesus Christ is an anchor to our souls, how faith and good works are necessary, and how God turns our weakness into strength just like he promised Moroni.
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