January 27, 2025 • 26 mins
Explore the transformative journey of authentic leadership and entrepreneurship with insights from Jason Valaseck. Through embracing vulnerability, cultivating patience, and prioritizing transparency, individuals can rise above self-limiting beliefs and foster meaningful connections in their professional lives.
• Jason shares his entrepreneurial backstory and the evolution of Bodcore
• Discussion of overcoming self-limiting beliefs and imposter syndrome
• The importance of asking for help and seeking mentorship
• Key leadership traits: patience, reflection, and listening
• The significance of conviction and genuine belief in one's offerings
• Transition from aggressive sales to a service-oriented mindset
• The role of transparency in building trust in business relationships
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to Unpacked Podcast with your host
leadership consultant, RonHarvey of Global Core Strategies
and Consulting.
Ron's delighted to have youjoin us as he unpacks and shares
his leadership experience,designed to help you in your
leadership journey.
Ron believes that leadership isthe fundamental driver towards
making a difference.
(00:21):
So now to find out more of whatit means to unpack leadership,
here's your host, Ron Harvey.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Well, good morning everyone.
This is Ron Harvey, the VicePresident, the Chief Operating
Officer for GlobalCoreStrategies, which is a
leadership development firm thatmy wife and I started over 11
years ago, and we have one thingthat we really strive to do as
a company, and that's to addvalue and make a difference for
leaders to stay connected totheir workforce Really simple,
but very difficult to do, and sowe love doing that.
(00:49):
At the end of the day,everywhere that we go, add value
, make a difference.
What we do on this particularshow is a podcast that we
release every single Monday,with leaders from around the
world, from all differentbackgrounds, walks of life,
different beliefs, differentsystems, but they add value to
all of our listeners, all of ourviewers, and so I'm excited
that we have another wonderfulperson on here with us.
Jason is coming in from Arizona,so different time zone.
(01:13):
He's just getting breakfast,I'm ready to go to lunch, and so
we've already talked about thatin the green room.
So, jason, I'm going to pauseand let you introduce yourself,
and then we'll go into thepodcast itself, but definitely
take some time to tell us whoyou are and what you're up to.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Sounds great.
As you mentioned, my name'sJason, last name Velocik.
I'm here in Scottsdale, Arizona.
I'm a bit of a serialentrepreneur.
I've had some minor successes.
I'm still waiting for my homerun.
And I think Bodcore is thatbusiness that's going to get me
there.
You know, when I look back atmy life, you know I've always
been into business and I'vealways had different hobbies and
(01:44):
played sports growing up anddid all the fun things that you
try to do as a child and as ayoung adult, but the one
consistent that I've always,always maintained was my health.
Like, I've always paidattention to just staying in
shape.
You know, in the beginning itwas because I was hopeful to
play a sport my entire life, youlife, so you want to be in the
best condition you possibly canand then when that dream ends,
(02:07):
you hope that something elsewill take its place and I just
want to keep staying in shape.
In the event that someopportunity that I didn't see
found me, I did go work in thegym industry for a while and I
did like that, but I didn'tthink that would be the right
business for me at the time.
I'd say in hindsight, the wayentrepreneurship has changed
today, it's what I should havedid Now.
(02:31):
I didn't know if I would havehad the resources to create a
gym when I was getting intoentrepreneurship, but now,
looking back, I could havestarted as a small studio opened
up several of those and beenone day acquired by somebody
much larger, and that could haveput me into a different playing
game of gyms and fitnesses.
So I never really made it downthat path, but I finally have
gotten there through thisbusiness called Bodcore.
So this is my breakthrough toget into the longevity and
(02:53):
health and fitness industries.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, Thank you for sharing.
You know, because on your shirtyou have good marketing in the
background and when you thinkabout, as an entrepreneur, some
of the decisions that you make,some of the fear that you had to
go through, some of thechallenges you had to overcome,
all leadership, you know.
So what?
The entrepreneur running theCorporate 100 company there are
some very practical things thatare similar across this.
When you think of leadership,so you think about getting the
(03:17):
Bacor.
You've done it, you've tried acouple, you're in this.
What's the things that you hadto overcome as a leader running
this organization?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
It's something that I'm still trying to improve on.
When you're younger, you'retaught this kind of like fake it
till you make it attitude.
That's what the moviesportrayed as a young
entrepreneur.
So I think you know that's kindof where a lot of us start is
we're trying to convince otherpeople we're more successful
than we really are, and thatdoes work to an extent.
(03:45):
But what that doesn't help youdo which I didn't know until
later in life is if you act likeyou have it all figured out, no
one knows that you may needsome help.
If people realize that you havethe ambition to go the distance
but you don't have all thepieces or all the skills, they
might want to help you get there.
But you have to let them knowthat you need the help, and I'd
probably say that was like theearly mistakes I made was just
(04:07):
not letting other people that Iwas working with and trying to
lead let them know I don't haveall the answers.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
When you think about it, jace, I definitely want to
unpack that because I alwaystell people I use that as an
analogy I've never seen a towtruck pick up a car that's paid
for and running well.
Sure, there has to be a reasonthat it stops to help you.
Can you unpack more?
How important was that for youto get to this place?
Because you can have ego, youcan have pride you can have.
(04:34):
I don't want people to know andI want people to think I got it
together.
There's imposter syndrome.
There are a lot of reasonspeople don't let people know
they need help and they knowthey need it and they even know
that the person can help them.
What was that transition like?
To get to where you startedtelling and asking for what you
needed?
What happened?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
It happened in two phases.
Phase one is I just became veryhungry at learning from other
people.
You know, early on again, Ithought that was a weakness,
showing that I had to learn fromsomebody else, and then, once I
figured that out that itactually makes you seem more
intelligent when you seek helpfrom others.
That kind of really helped meget on the right path and just
(05:13):
stop acting like I have all theanswers.
And once I started becoming asponge for more information,
then things started to get awhole lot easier.
The second part of that whenyou're getting started again,
you know your friends and yourfamily like they're your biggest
.
You know cheerleaders.
You know they're.
They're telling you everythingthat you need to hear so you can
keep going the distance.
(05:33):
And if you're not mentallymature enough for that yet, it
goes to your head and you startbelieving that you're invincible
.
When you're definitely not.
You start believing you canmake anybody like you and that's
not the case either.
And others start to kind of alsomirror you because they see you
doing it.
So if you tell other peoplewhat they want to hear all the
(05:54):
time and you continue to do that, they'll start telling you what
you want to hear all the time,and if you're just telling each
other what you want to hear allthe time, neither one of you are
learning anything.
You're just like reinforcingbad habits, possibly.
So it was like being humbledand like realizing that people
that I thought liked me reallydidn't like me that much.
You know, like I hope that theydid, I thought they did, but it
(06:15):
turns out I was wrong, you know, because I was probably a
little overconfident.
I just needed to show some morehumility.
So, you know, the last decadehas been all about showing
humility and just like realizingyou don't have all the answers
and try to learn from everybody,not just if they're more
successful than you or less.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Wow, I love the guests when they come on,
because you never know whatwe're going to talk about.
People become reallytransparent.
So I love that you've beentransparent and vulnerable here,
because you're exactly right.
You think people like you.
Sometimes there's this thing ofbeing there's a thin line
between arrogance and cockinessor confidence.
It's okay to be confident, butpeople shy away from and push
away from arrogant and cockypeople and some people think,
(06:55):
well, I gotta be that way so Ican be successful.
I'm on the fence, I hear you, Iwant you to be confident, but I
don't want you to feel like yougot all the answers all the
time.
I don't think I want to be inthat space with you if that's
how you show up.
So when you think about you'vegone through that journey, you
begin to recognize how importantit is for you to be able to ask
for help and get help.
How has that helped you dobusiness better in BotCorp?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
It's helped me develop patience, because
patience is also a verydifficult skill for a lot of
entrepreneurs.
I mean, you just got this ballof energy in you all the time
and you know that you'redestined for something more, but
you don't quite know what it isyet.
And you think you got it, butyou don't quite got it.
And then you just you rush intodecisions because you hear
(07:39):
something like that's it, likethat's the thing I've been
missing, and you just jump rightinto it before you just like
take a step back, you know,maybe sleep on it, decide
tomorrow.
Are you still equally excitedabout it as you were before?
And then again reflecting backon other people who have done
far more than you and listen towhat their strategies were.
And I remember, like early on,listening to like Jeff Bezos
(07:59):
explain like things that makehim successful.
And when you hear other peopletalk about him, but like when
they're in meetings with him, Iguess his big thing was he
always spoke last, like he neverwent into a meeting with all
the answers and directions.
He went into a meeting and saidnothing until the very end,
after everyone else had theirtime to speak and share their
(08:19):
thoughts.
So like when you hear someonelike Jeff Bezos, the king of the
mountain for levels of successwhen it comes to
entrepreneurship, and if he goesinto a meeting room, doesn't
say anything till last.
What makes you think that Ishould go into the meeting room
and speak first?
Right?
So, like again, learn fromothers who have done it.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Wow, yeah, I mean you're dropping some really
great nuggets and reinforcingthe reminders.
I mean you said two things thatare super important.
Three one is you said feedbackSuper important, based on your
conversation.
The other is being able tolisten, speak last and sleep on
it.
Like because you know, asentrepreneurs, we are ready to
go all the time 100 miles anhour, even if it's the wrong
(08:58):
direction we'll go back, but wedon't know how to just like
pause and get more data.
It's like off to the races, wego without getting all the data.
So, three things any one ofthose you want to unpack for us,
whether it's to get feedback,or whether it's to sleep on it
or to be last to speak.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah.
So you know, this is anotherthing that kind of made me
overconfident early on is youknow, another great entrepreneur
that we all kind of admire wasSteve Jobs.
Confident early on is you know,another great entrepreneur that
we all kind of admire was SteveJobs, and one of his biggest
things was saying that peopledon't know what they want until
you give it to them and like.
So if you're too immature forthat statement, again it goes to
(09:35):
your own head and you think allof your ideas are great because
you reflect that.
Well, steve Jobs did it.
Well, he's a unicorn, you know,he's not like everybody else
and he also had the resources ofApple behind him.
You know most of us don't right.
So again, this goes back tobeing patient.
And even if you have a goodidea, and just because you heard
this saying from somebody elsewho was far more accomplished,
(09:58):
saying that people don't knowwhat they want until you give it
to them, it doesn't mean thatyou have the answers that people
want.
You still need to be patient,relax a little bit, maybe bounce
your ideas off some otherpeople, maybe even create like a
mock-up test environment ofyour business, see how people
react to it.
But at the end of the day, justbe more patient, as hard as it
is frustrated and tired and Iwould show up.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I wasn't at my best and my team said will you just
let us do the back end, like getout of the way?
I was ready to pull the plug onit, quite honestly, because I
was doing too much and it wasexhausting and I was missing my
family time.
And my team came together andsaid Ron, what's the one thing
(10:43):
that you do well?
I said interview.
Then just do that.
When the guests come on, do thething that you do well, we have
the rest.
So I will tell you.
I love what you're saying ishow do you leverage the
resources?
I wasn't going to ask for help.
I figured I had to do it and Ididn't want to bother them.
Quite out of that, it was aguilty conscience that I don't
want to bother people.
There were people waiting tohelp.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Honestly, I still struggle with that.
I am the worst at asking forhelp.
Like it's still a veryuncomfortable feeling, like I
don't want to burden otherpeople because I'm a Leo, I have
no idea, but I never want tofeel like I'm indebted to
somebody else.
So if someone does somethingnice for me, it's in my nature
to want to do something nicerfor them.
You know, I don't want tobother somebody for something
(11:22):
else unless they bothered mefirst, because then I feel like
I owed a favor.
So like I just don't want toput people out.
So I still struggle with that.
What I do to try to get pastthat is I try to find people who
I know have the answers thatI'm looking for.
Like seek out who the industryexperts are and just like obsess
over their content.
(11:42):
Like these podcasts are great.
I consume so many of otherpeople's podcasts because what I
find is a lot of businessleaders will go on a podcast and
they'll have certain strategiesthat they may not always want
to share because they're secretto their system or they're
proprietary to their businessand they don't want to share
everything openly.
But if you just keep listeningto all their messaging, they'll
(12:05):
slip up sometimes and they willshare these nuggets of wisdom
that if you weren't watchinghundreds of hours, you would
have never caught it.
You can't just watch thehighlights and learn everything
You've got to like.
Sit through the boring partstoo, and just observe and listen
as much as you can.
And when you hear those nuggetsof wisdom, save them somewhere,
store them where you can.
That's what I do.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
So if you listen and Jason will drop some stuff, come
back and follow him again.
He's going to drop something,so he's not going to give you
the whole recipe today.
So, entrepreneurs, do we giveyou the whole recipe today?
No, we don't.
But do we give you somethingthat will help make you better
today?
Absolutely.
So I'm glad that Jason'sdropping it.
He's telling you some thingsthat he's done, and the fact of
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feedback and listening, and Iwant to learn a little bit about
Barcore.
Let the audience learn a littlebit.
You latched onto this.
This is something that you'redoing.
It's the thing that you'rereally passionate about.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Tell us more about that.
It's kind of grown on me.
To be completely honest, itwasn't quite that attractive to
me in the beginning because Ithought it was gimmicky.
So my entire life I've alwaysbeen in the gym.
I'm not like a gym rat, butI've always been consistent.
I've never taken more than amonth off at a time, always been
consistent.
Well, in 2018, I find myself ina new relationship with a young
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lady who had a two-year-olddaughter and I don't have
children yet and for the veryfirst time, I'm a stepdad right,
and as a stepdad, I'm spendingmore time with the family and
I'm also eating the same food asthe two-year-old.
So I'm in the gym less eating.
Worse, you know, we're having aglass of wine every single
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night.
We're having Grimaldi's pizza afew times a week and for the
very first time in my life, I'vegot dad bod starting to hit me
and I'm like, okay, the nextchapter.
I guess you know, learn to dealwith it.
But luckily, this young ladythat I was dating she was also
an entrepreneur and she waselectric in her space.
At the time, I think she wasthe most well-known organic
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spray canning artist in thestate of Arizona and in Arizona.
I think about being tan.
You know, even though we havethe sun all the time, we
actually have more canning flamsin almost every other state in
the country.
That was kind of weird.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
That was kind of weird Arizona and all of a
sudden.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
So that space has evolved and this, you know,
spray canning has become very,very popular and this woman that
I was in a relationship withher niche was organic spray
canning and she was justcrushing it.
She was doing fantastic.
So, because she was doing sowell, another gentleman who we
didn't know reached out to herand wanted her to be a brand
ambassador for his fat lasercompany.
(14:48):
Like, he had this fat laserproduct that shrinks your fat
cells and tightens your skin,and I'm like, well, that's
gimmicky, because I was justshut off to it, because I'm a
gym person.
But I knew that she I mean shewas beautiful.
She still is beautiful and youput a girl like that who's got
entrepreneurship skills, she'salready owning a business that's
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very successful, she's verylikable, she's lovely, you know,
visually, personally,everything about her is
fantastic.
You give her any product.
That business was going tosucceed.
And her and I were looking fora business we could do together.
Like, what can we do togetherso we can be entrepreneurs
together?
You know she didn't want mecanning women because they're
naked in this process, so thatwasn't going to work.
(15:30):
My passion was marketing.
You understood marketing, butit wasn't her passion.
So we were looking for abusiness that would marry our
skills together and this fatlaser company seemed like it
would be a good fit.
So we ended up having a meetingwith this gentleman and we were
still very reluctant, didn'tbelieve that it would actually
work, and he offered to let ustake it home so we could try it
(15:52):
out.
So took him up on the offer.
We take this device home and weuse myself, my father and this
young lady my girlfriend at thetime, her mother.
So we were the three guineapigs of this product and at this
point we still weren't takingit serious because like it
sounds gimmicky.
But if it works, maybe we canmake some money with it and if
other people like it, they'reusing it.
(16:12):
We're going to be great atpromoting it.
So let's see how it goes.
So we all start doing thistreatment to ourselves.
We didn't have any change inlifestyle.
I'm still not in the gym, I'mstill eating the same food as a
two-year-old, we're stilldrinking wine and beer almost
every night of the week.
We using this device.
The regimen was you do atreatment to yourself once every
third day.
(16:32):
So we do that and I get twoweeks into it and we look at my
before and after photos andthere was an obvious difference,
side-by-side comparison, justtwo weeks into this thing and
not even making any lifestylechanges.
So when I actually saw thisthing work, I was super geeked
up.
And then I was very excited tostart a business and that
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started to put one foot in frontof the other and exploring
different ways to do thisbusiness and ended up proceeding
with the business and then thathas evolved into what today is
called Bodcore.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Wow, thank you for sharing, and I actually shared
the story because I read it andyou gave us a very good
condensed version of it, sothank you for doing that.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
What did you have to overcome in your self-limiting
beliefs to stay the course One?
I had to have conviction.
You can't have artificialexcitement.
Artificial excitement comesfrom consuming information and
learning as much as you can, butif you haven't actually tasted
or used that business and seenthe results of it, you won't
have true conviction.
And when things get tough youneed conviction to carry you
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through.
And luckily, when I saw theresults on my own body and I saw
the change in my father becausehe was also a guinea pig early
on and my girlfriend's mother,when I saw that it actually
worked on us and knowing that itactually worked on my body, the
conviction was there.
Because you couldn't convinceme it didn't work, because I
know it did work because I usedit on me.
So, like you can tell me whatyou want to tell me all day long
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and you can say what you wantto say about it, but I actually
know without a doubt it works,you know.
So that gave me the convictionto see it through.
After you've got convictionfrom there, it's really just
about you know finding what partof the business suits you best
so that way you can focus yourenergy into that part of the
business and then the otherareas of the business, find
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complementing team members thatcan assist you in those areas,
and to me that's kind of likewhat it takes to get behind
something and see it through.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah, and that's everything that you do.
So if you're listening, you'rewatching, the things you do well
, do well, but the things thatyou don't do well, find someone
else to compliment thoseskillsets that help you.
I love that you also spoke onthere, Jason, where initially
you know you walk into asentrepreneurs we want to sell,
sell, sell, sell, sell.
You found a way sounds asthough you've learned to be of
service to people that want thisthing done, and you just became
(18:50):
a service provider, and so canyou speak to how important it is
to not be so salesy to peopleand be a service provider if
you're going to really besuccessful.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yeah, this is something also that took me a
while to get to again, becausethat whole fake it till you make
it thing and early on in myentrepreneur career I would
consume.
So actually let me back up astep.
In my opinion, there's two waysto classify someone who's
learning a business or becomingan expert there's headline
readers and there'spractitioners.
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A headline reader will consumecontent and because they're
intelligent, they can convinceyou they truly know this
business.
A practitioner has both theyconsume content, but they've
actually done the thing thatthey're promoting and selling.
And a practitioner is whateveryone should strive to get to
.
And I wish so badly that Iwould have learned that early on
(19:43):
, because I was the fake it tillyou make it headline reader for
a decade of my entrepreneurcareer and going back into it, I
made so many mistakes of justlike recommending the wrong
thing because I believed itworked, because I consumed
enough content, but neveractually did it myself right.
So it was like an evolution ofthings.
So when I got to a place whereI started realizing, hey, let's
(20:05):
actually learn this skill alittle bit.
I don't gotta become an expertat it yet, but let's be
moderately good at it before Istart recommending it to other
people.
So I feel like that's the firststep you should really take in
entrepreneurship.
I try to be gentle when I'mcoaching younger entrepreneurs,
because I did the same mistakeand they don't know any
different.
They saw a movie and anentrepreneur did that and they
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thought that's the way they gotto do it.
So they start convincing you.
They know something they don'tand they really don't have the
skill.
So where this kind of translatesback into Bodcore is I kind of
changed my mindset on how Ieducate, coach and try to inform
people, meaning I will not sella product or service to
somebody else if I haven'tactually done it myself yet.
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I wouldn't just sell it to you,recommend it to you because
someone told me about it.
I would say hey, or I wouldjust close that at least Like
hey, I've never used it yet, butthis is what I've learned about
it.
So it's really finding thatcareful line of just you can be
passionate about something youhaven't done yet, but at least
clarify to people hey, I'm justsuper excited and geeked up
about it, I haven't done it yet,but maybe we could do it
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together and we can learn fromeach other, type thing.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah, I love it, and we call that transparency.
When you think of leadership,the leaders that are super
successful are the ones that aretransparent about things.
Hey, here's what I've learned.
Here's what I don't know yet.
One thing we're struggling within society is this thing called
trust, and if you want people totrust you, you got to be
transparent.
And people don't mind you saidI haven't tried it, I haven't
done it, but what they do have aproblem with is you've been
(21:35):
dishonest about it.
So I will tell you anentrepreneur as a leader,
regardless of where you findyourself, transparency matters.
Be honest and build trust withpeople in any industry, even in
my work.
You know I'm a leadershipconsultant.
We travel around and peoplebring us in to help them be
better connected with theirworkforce.
We love it.
We love helping leaders figureout how do I take care of and
connect with the people that areactually running my business
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and do it in a manner that theywant to work for us, because
people get to choose where theywork at.
Today, it's a hard market tohire staff, so be a really great
leader, so people want to workfor you.
The most important thing I'velearned over time, for all of
our listeners is be trustworthy.
Sometimes it's going to costyou, but at least it won't cost
you your reputation.
If you lie and you win and itcatches up with you, it'll cost
you your reputation, probablyeverything else to follow.
(22:17):
So be very trustworthy, becausewe're struggling with that
right now.
What would you tellentrepreneurs that are listening
as we look at our time heretoday?
What would you leave them withwhen it comes to leading, or it
comes to self-care or it comesto just doing right for you
because you got to go first?
What would you leave us with?
Just?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
know that the truth will always surface.
It doesn't matter how hard youtry to prevent it, but the truth
will eventually always find itsway.
So back to what you were sayingbefore about being transparent.
You may work with someone todayand you may have a great story
to share and you may have aconviction behind the story to
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make them believe that youbelieve it.
But if it's not truth and youcontinue that relationship with
that person, eventually you'regoing to slip up and say
something, or something elsewill just show itself and
they'll realize, man, all theseyears.
You lied to me in the verybeginning Like I love you now
and I trust you now becausewe've been through a lot
together and we get along great.
(23:18):
So I realize this is thebeginning.
But now I know what you'recapable of doing.
I know that you're capable oflooking me dead in the eye and
truly making me believe that youbelieve something that is not
true.
So just like know that youcannot hide from the truth, the
truth will always show itself.
So, just like, know that youcannot hide from the truth, the
truth will always show itself.
So back to your transparencypoint.
You know, just be upfront, behonest, as hard as it's going to
(23:42):
be, and sometimes it may slowdown your progress, but it is
worth it in the end because itwill force you to do things
right and people in the end willrespect you so much more for
taking longer to get there,because they know that you did
it right.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yes, I must endorse that 100%.
They will respect you fortaking the longer route and you
did it right.
So, jason, thank you forsharing so much.
Before we leave, how do peoplereach you or your product?
What do you want to leave uswith for people to reach out to
you if they're interested inknowing more about BotCorp?
Can you drop that informationor share it with us to you if
they're interested?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
in knowing more about Bodcore.
Can you drop that informationor share it with us?
Absolutely so.
At this stage I'm still overlyobsessed with communication and
managing all my own profiles.
So if you reach out to me atJason Velocic or at Bodcore, all
my social media handles are thesame.
Whether you go on LinkedIn orFacebook or Instagram, it's all
at Jason Velocic.
And if you want to go throughBodcore, it's all at Bodcore.
(24:35):
Spelled the same way you see iton my shirt right here
B-O-D-C-O-R.
But any message you send throughany platform that goes to Jason
Velocity or Bodcore, it doesget directly to me.
I do have a texting line.
You can call or text it at602-888-4669.
And again, that goes directlyto me 602-888-4669.
(24:59):
And I'm back into sharing phonenumbers because I think that's
something we've gotten away fromand people today they think
that if they message you onsocial media, you may or may not
ever get it, but if you givethem a phone number, you're more
likely to get to it.
And I can assure anyone who'slistening or watching this,
whether you contact me on socialmedia or my phone number or my
email, which is my first andlast name, jasonbelosik, at
(25:19):
gmailcom, no matter how you findme.
It will get to me because Irespond and answer everything.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yes, yes, and for the last name, for everyone that's
listening, that's B-A-L-A-S-E-K.
So if you want to reach out tohim, he's giving you everything.
He's giving you phone numbers,giving you contact.
Feel free to reach out.
I mean, we're in business butwe also want to help and we want
to add value to everybody.
Again, thank y'all for alwaysfollowing, thank you for telling
people about our podcast andinviting guests I mean, it makes
(25:46):
a difference and thank you forall of our as you continue to
grow your business or yourpersonal professional lives.
Again, ron Harvey, vicePresident of Global Core, you
can always follow us.
We release a podcast everysingle Monday and for those of
you that stay with us, thank youfor joining us.
Jason and I have enjoyed it andwe hope we added some value to
you to help you be moreeffective at taking care of the
people that you're responsiblefor and responsible to.
(26:07):
Until next time, jason and Iwill sign off.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Well, we hope you enjoyed this edition of Unpacked
Podcast with leadershipconsultant Ron Harvey.
Remember to join us everyMonday as Ron unpacks sound
advice, providing real answersfor real leadership challenges.
Until next time, remember toadd value and make a difference
where you are, for the peopleyou serve, because people always
matter.
Welcome to Unpacked Podcast with your host
leadership consultant, RonHarvey of Global Core Strategies
and Consulting.
Ron's delighted to have youjoin us as he unpacks and shares
his leadership experience,designed to help you in your
leadership journey.
Ron believes that leadership isthe fundamental driver towards
making a difference.
(00:21):
So now to find out more of whatit means to unpack leadership,
here's your host, Ron Harvey.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Well, good morning everyone.
This is Ron Harvey, the VicePresident, the Chief Operating
Officer for GlobalCoreStrategies, which is a
leadership development firm thatmy wife and I started over 11
years ago, and we have one thingthat we really strive to do as
a company, and that's to addvalue and make a difference for
leaders to stay connected totheir workforce Really simple,
but very difficult to do, and sowe love doing that.
(00:49):
At the end of the day,everywhere that we go, add value
, make a difference.
What we do on this particularshow is a podcast that we
release every single Monday,with leaders from around the
world, from all differentbackgrounds, walks of life,
different beliefs, differentsystems, but they add value to
all of our listeners, all of ourviewers, and so I'm excited
that we have another wonderfulperson on here with us.
Jason is coming in from Arizona,so different time zone.
(01:13):
He's just getting breakfast,I'm ready to go to lunch, and so
we've already talked about thatin the green room.
So, jason, I'm going to pauseand let you introduce yourself,
and then we'll go into thepodcast itself, but definitely
take some time to tell us whoyou are and what you're up to.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Sounds great.
As you mentioned, my name'sJason, last name Velocik.
I'm here in Scottsdale, Arizona.
I'm a bit of a serialentrepreneur.
I've had some minor successes.
I'm still waiting for my homerun.
And I think Bodcore is thatbusiness that's going to get me
there.
You know, when I look back atmy life, you know I've always
been into business and I'vealways had different hobbies and
(01:44):
played sports growing up anddid all the fun things that you
try to do as a child and as ayoung adult, but the one
consistent that I've always,always maintained was my health.
Like, I've always paidattention to just staying in
shape.
You know, in the beginning itwas because I was hopeful to
play a sport my entire life, youlife, so you want to be in the
best condition you possibly canand then when that dream ends,
(02:07):
you hope that something elsewill take its place and I just
want to keep staying in shape.
In the event that someopportunity that I didn't see
found me, I did go work in thegym industry for a while and I
did like that, but I didn'tthink that would be the right
business for me at the time.
I'd say in hindsight, the wayentrepreneurship has changed
today, it's what I should havedid Now.
(02:31):
I didn't know if I would havehad the resources to create a
gym when I was getting intoentrepreneurship, but now,
looking back, I could havestarted as a small studio opened
up several of those and beenone day acquired by somebody
much larger, and that could haveput me into a different playing
game of gyms and fitnesses.
So I never really made it downthat path, but I finally have
gotten there through thisbusiness called Bodcore.
So this is my breakthrough toget into the longevity and
(02:53):
health and fitness industries.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, Thank you for sharing.
You know, because on your shirtyou have good marketing in the
background and when you thinkabout, as an entrepreneur, some
of the decisions that you make,some of the fear that you had to
go through, some of thechallenges you had to overcome,
all leadership, you know.
So what?
The entrepreneur running theCorporate 100 company there are
some very practical things thatare similar across this.
When you think of leadership,so you think about getting the
(03:17):
Bacor.
You've done it, you've tried acouple, you're in this.
What's the things that you hadto overcome as a leader running
this organization?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
It's something that I'm still trying to improve on.
When you're younger, you'retaught this kind of like fake it
till you make it attitude.
That's what the moviesportrayed as a young
entrepreneur.
So I think you know that's kindof where a lot of us start is
we're trying to convince otherpeople we're more successful
than we really are, and thatdoes work to an extent.
(03:45):
But what that doesn't help youdo which I didn't know until
later in life is if you act likeyou have it all figured out, no
one knows that you may needsome help.
If people realize that you havethe ambition to go the distance
but you don't have all thepieces or all the skills, they
might want to help you get there.
But you have to let them knowthat you need the help, and I'd
probably say that was like theearly mistakes I made was just
(04:07):
not letting other people that Iwas working with and trying to
lead let them know I don't haveall the answers.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
When you think about it, jace, I definitely want to
unpack that because I alwaystell people I use that as an
analogy I've never seen a towtruck pick up a car that's paid
for and running well.
Sure, there has to be a reasonthat it stops to help you.
Can you unpack more?
How important was that for youto get to this place?
Because you can have ego, youcan have pride you can have.
(04:34):
I don't want people to know andI want people to think I got it
together.
There's imposter syndrome.
There are a lot of reasonspeople don't let people know
they need help and they knowthey need it and they even know
that the person can help them.
What was that transition like?
To get to where you startedtelling and asking for what you
needed?
What happened?
Speaker 3 (04:51):
It happened in two phases.
Phase one is I just became veryhungry at learning from other
people.
You know, early on again, Ithought that was a weakness,
showing that I had to learn fromsomebody else, and then, once I
figured that out that itactually makes you seem more
intelligent when you seek helpfrom others.
That kind of really helped meget on the right path and just
(05:13):
stop acting like I have all theanswers.
And once I started becoming asponge for more information,
then things started to get awhole lot easier.
The second part of that whenyou're getting started again,
you know your friends and yourfamily like they're your biggest
.
You know cheerleaders.
You know they're.
They're telling you everythingthat you need to hear so you can
keep going the distance.
(05:33):
And if you're not mentallymature enough for that yet, it
goes to your head and you startbelieving that you're invincible
.
When you're definitely not.
You start believing you canmake anybody like you and that's
not the case either.
And others start to kind of alsomirror you because they see you
doing it.
So if you tell other peoplewhat they want to hear all the
(05:54):
time and you continue to do that, they'll start telling you what
you want to hear all the time,and if you're just telling each
other what you want to hear allthe time, neither one of you are
learning anything.
You're just like reinforcingbad habits, possibly.
So it was like being humbledand like realizing that people
that I thought liked me reallydidn't like me that much.
You know, like I hope that theydid, I thought they did, but it
(06:15):
turns out I was wrong, you know, because I was probably a
little overconfident.
I just needed to show some morehumility.
So, you know, the last decadehas been all about showing
humility and just like realizingyou don't have all the answers
and try to learn from everybody,not just if they're more
successful than you or less.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Wow, I love the guests when they come on,
because you never know whatwe're going to talk about.
People become reallytransparent.
So I love that you've beentransparent and vulnerable here,
because you're exactly right.
You think people like you.
Sometimes there's this thing ofbeing there's a thin line
between arrogance and cockinessor confidence.
It's okay to be confident, butpeople shy away from and push
away from arrogant and cockypeople and some people think,
(06:55):
well, I gotta be that way so Ican be successful.
I'm on the fence, I hear you, Iwant you to be confident, but I
don't want you to feel like yougot all the answers all the
time.
I don't think I want to be inthat space with you if that's
how you show up.
So when you think about you'vegone through that journey, you
begin to recognize how importantit is for you to be able to ask
for help and get help.
How has that helped you dobusiness better in BotCorp?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
It's helped me develop patience, because
patience is also a verydifficult skill for a lot of
entrepreneurs.
I mean, you just got this ballof energy in you all the time
and you know that you'redestined for something more, but
you don't quite know what it isyet.
And you think you got it, butyou don't quite got it.
And then you just you rush intodecisions because you hear
(07:39):
something like that's it, likethat's the thing I've been
missing, and you just jump rightinto it before you just like
take a step back, you know,maybe sleep on it, decide
tomorrow.
Are you still equally excitedabout it as you were before?
And then again reflecting backon other people who have done
far more than you and listen towhat their strategies were.
And I remember, like early on,listening to like Jeff Bezos
(07:59):
explain like things that makehim successful.
And when you hear other peopletalk about him, but like when
they're in meetings with him, Iguess his big thing was he
always spoke last, like he neverwent into a meeting with all
the answers and directions.
He went into a meeting and saidnothing until the very end,
after everyone else had theirtime to speak and share their
(08:19):
thoughts.
So like when you hear someonelike Jeff Bezos, the king of the
mountain for levels of successwhen it comes to
entrepreneurship, and if he goesinto a meeting room, doesn't
say anything till last.
What makes you think that Ishould go into the meeting room
and speak first?
Right?
So, like again, learn fromothers who have done it.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Wow, yeah, I mean you're dropping some really
great nuggets and reinforcingthe reminders.
I mean you said two things thatare super important.
Three one is you said feedbackSuper important, based on your
conversation.
The other is being able tolisten, speak last and sleep on
it.
Like because you know, asentrepreneurs, we are ready to
go all the time 100 miles anhour, even if it's the wrong
(08:58):
direction we'll go back, but wedon't know how to just like
pause and get more data.
It's like off to the races, wego without getting all the data.
So, three things any one ofthose you want to unpack for us,
whether it's to get feedback,or whether it's to sleep on it
or to be last to speak.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Yeah.
So you know, this is anotherthing that kind of made me
overconfident early on is youknow, another great entrepreneur
that we all kind of admire wasSteve Jobs.
Confident early on is you know,another great entrepreneur that
we all kind of admire was SteveJobs, and one of his biggest
things was saying that peopledon't know what they want until
you give it to them and like.
So if you're too immature forthat statement, again it goes to
(09:35):
your own head and you think allof your ideas are great because
you reflect that.
Well, steve Jobs did it.
Well, he's a unicorn, you know,he's not like everybody else
and he also had the resources ofApple behind him.
You know most of us don't right.
So again, this goes back tobeing patient.
And even if you have a goodidea, and just because you heard
this saying from somebody elsewho was far more accomplished,
(09:58):
saying that people don't knowwhat they want until you give it
to them, it doesn't mean thatyou have the answers that people
want.
You still need to be patient,relax a little bit, maybe bounce
your ideas off some otherpeople, maybe even create like a
mock-up test environment ofyour business, see how people
react to it.
But at the end of the day, justbe more patient, as hard as it
is frustrated and tired and Iwould show up.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I wasn't at my best and my team said will you just
let us do the back end, like getout of the way?
I was ready to pull the plug onit, quite honestly, because I
was doing too much and it wasexhausting and I was missing my
family time.
And my team came together andsaid Ron, what's the one thing
(10:43):
that you do well?
I said interview.
Then just do that.
When the guests come on, do thething that you do well, we have
the rest.
So I will tell you.
I love what you're saying ishow do you leverage the
resources?
I wasn't going to ask for help.
I figured I had to do it and Ididn't want to bother them.
Quite out of that, it was aguilty conscience that I don't
want to bother people.
There were people waiting tohelp.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Honestly, I still struggle with that.
I am the worst at asking forhelp.
Like it's still a veryuncomfortable feeling, like I
don't want to burden otherpeople because I'm a Leo, I have
no idea, but I never want tofeel like I'm indebted to
somebody else.
So if someone does somethingnice for me, it's in my nature
to want to do something nicerfor them.
You know, I don't want tobother somebody for something
(11:22):
else unless they bothered mefirst, because then I feel like
I owed a favor.
So like I just don't want toput people out.
So I still struggle with that.
What I do to try to get pastthat is I try to find people who
I know have the answers thatI'm looking for.
Like seek out who the industryexperts are and just like obsess
over their content.
(11:42):
Like these podcasts are great.
I consume so many of otherpeople's podcasts because what I
find is a lot of businessleaders will go on a podcast and
they'll have certain strategiesthat they may not always want
to share because they're secretto their system or they're
proprietary to their businessand they don't want to share
everything openly.
But if you just keep listeningto all their messaging, they'll
(12:05):
slip up sometimes and they willshare these nuggets of wisdom
that if you weren't watchinghundreds of hours, you would
have never caught it.
You can't just watch thehighlights and learn everything
You've got to like.
Sit through the boring partstoo, and just observe and listen
as much as you can.
And when you hear those nuggetsof wisdom, save them somewhere,
store them where you can.
That's what I do.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
So if you listen and Jason will drop some stuff, come
back and follow him again.
He's going to drop something,so he's not going to give you
the whole recipe today.
So, entrepreneurs, do we giveyou the whole recipe today?
No, we don't.
But do we give you somethingthat will help make you better
today?
Absolutely.
So I'm glad that Jason'sdropping it.
He's telling you some thingsthat he's done, and the fact of
(12:55):
feedback and listening, and Iwant to learn a little bit about
Barcore.
Let the audience learn a littlebit.
You latched onto this.
This is something that you'redoing.
It's the thing that you'rereally passionate about.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Tell us more about that.
It's kind of grown on me.
To be completely honest, itwasn't quite that attractive to
me in the beginning because Ithought it was gimmicky.
So my entire life I've alwaysbeen in the gym.
I'm not like a gym rat, butI've always been consistent.
I've never taken more than amonth off at a time, always been
consistent.
Well, in 2018, I find myself ina new relationship with a young
(13:27):
lady who had a two-year-olddaughter and I don't have
children yet and for the veryfirst time, I'm a stepdad right,
and as a stepdad, I'm spendingmore time with the family and
I'm also eating the same food asthe two-year-old.
So I'm in the gym less eating.
Worse, you know, we're having aglass of wine every single
(13:48):
night.
We're having Grimaldi's pizza afew times a week and for the
very first time in my life, I'vegot dad bod starting to hit me
and I'm like, okay, the nextchapter.
I guess you know, learn to dealwith it.
But luckily, this young ladythat I was dating she was also
an entrepreneur and she waselectric in her space.
At the time, I think she wasthe most well-known organic
(14:12):
spray canning artist in thestate of Arizona and in Arizona.
I think about being tan.
You know, even though we havethe sun all the time, we
actually have more canning flamsin almost every other state in
the country.
That was kind of weird.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
That was kind of weird Arizona and all of a
sudden.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
So that space has evolved and this, you know,
spray canning has become very,very popular and this woman that
I was in a relationship withher niche was organic spray
canning and she was justcrushing it.
She was doing fantastic.
So, because she was doing sowell, another gentleman who we
didn't know reached out to herand wanted her to be a brand
ambassador for his fat lasercompany.
(14:48):
Like, he had this fat laserproduct that shrinks your fat
cells and tightens your skin,and I'm like, well, that's
gimmicky, because I was justshut off to it, because I'm a
gym person.
But I knew that she I mean shewas beautiful.
She still is beautiful and youput a girl like that who's got
entrepreneurship skills, she'salready owning a business that's
(15:09):
very successful, she's verylikable, she's lovely, you know,
visually, personally,everything about her is
fantastic.
You give her any product.
That business was going tosucceed.
And her and I were looking fora business we could do together.
Like, what can we do togetherso we can be entrepreneurs
together?
You know she didn't want mecanning women because they're
naked in this process, so thatwasn't going to work.
(15:30):
My passion was marketing.
You understood marketing, butit wasn't her passion.
So we were looking for abusiness that would marry our
skills together and this fatlaser company seemed like it
would be a good fit.
So we ended up having a meetingwith this gentleman and we were
still very reluctant, didn'tbelieve that it would actually
work, and he offered to let ustake it home so we could try it
(15:52):
out.
So took him up on the offer.
We take this device home and weuse myself, my father and this
young lady my girlfriend at thetime, her mother.
So we were the three guineapigs of this product and at this
point we still weren't takingit serious because like it
sounds gimmicky.
But if it works, maybe we canmake some money with it and if
other people like it, they'reusing it.
(16:12):
We're going to be great atpromoting it.
So let's see how it goes.
So we all start doing thistreatment to ourselves.
We didn't have any change inlifestyle.
I'm still not in the gym, I'mstill eating the same food as a
two-year-old, we're stilldrinking wine and beer almost
every night of the week.
We using this device.
The regimen was you do atreatment to yourself once every
third day.
(16:32):
So we do that and I get twoweeks into it and we look at my
before and after photos andthere was an obvious difference,
side-by-side comparison, justtwo weeks into this thing and
not even making any lifestylechanges.
So when I actually saw thisthing work, I was super geeked
up.
And then I was very excited tostart a business and that
(16:54):
started to put one foot in frontof the other and exploring
different ways to do thisbusiness and ended up proceeding
with the business and then thathas evolved into what today is
called Bodcore.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Wow, thank you for sharing, and I actually shared
the story because I read it andyou gave us a very good
condensed version of it, sothank you for doing that.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
What did you have to overcome in your self-limiting
beliefs to stay the course One?
I had to have conviction.
You can't have artificialexcitement.
Artificial excitement comesfrom consuming information and
learning as much as you can, butif you haven't actually tasted
or used that business and seenthe results of it, you won't
have true conviction.
And when things get tough youneed conviction to carry you
(17:36):
through.
And luckily, when I saw theresults on my own body and I saw
the change in my father becausehe was also a guinea pig early
on and my girlfriend's mother,when I saw that it actually
worked on us and knowing that itactually worked on my body, the
conviction was there.
Because you couldn't convinceme it didn't work, because I
know it did work because I usedit on me.
So, like you can tell me whatyou want to tell me all day long
(17:59):
and you can say what you wantto say about it, but I actually
know without a doubt it works,you know.
So that gave me the convictionto see it through.
After you've got convictionfrom there, it's really just
about you know finding what partof the business suits you best
so that way you can focus yourenergy into that part of the
business and then the otherareas of the business, find
(18:20):
complementing team members thatcan assist you in those areas,
and to me that's kind of likewhat it takes to get behind
something and see it through.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah, and that's everything that you do.
So if you're listening, you'rewatching, the things you do well
, do well, but the things thatyou don't do well, find someone
else to compliment thoseskillsets that help you.
I love that you also spoke onthere, Jason, where initially
you know you walk into asentrepreneurs we want to sell,
sell, sell, sell, sell.
You found a way sounds asthough you've learned to be of
service to people that want thisthing done, and you just became
(18:50):
a service provider, and so canyou speak to how important it is
to not be so salesy to peopleand be a service provider if
you're going to really besuccessful.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Yeah, this is something also that took me a
while to get to again, becausethat whole fake it till you make
it thing and early on in myentrepreneur career I would
consume.
So actually let me back up astep.
In my opinion, there's two waysto classify someone who's
learning a business or becomingan expert there's headline
readers and there'spractitioners.
(19:19):
A headline reader will consumecontent and because they're
intelligent, they can convinceyou they truly know this
business.
A practitioner has both theyconsume content, but they've
actually done the thing thatthey're promoting and selling.
And a practitioner is whateveryone should strive to get to
.
And I wish so badly that Iwould have learned that early on
(19:43):
, because I was the fake it tillyou make it headline reader for
a decade of my entrepreneurcareer and going back into it, I
made so many mistakes of justlike recommending the wrong
thing because I believed itworked, because I consumed
enough content, but neveractually did it myself right.
So it was like an evolution ofthings.
So when I got to a place whereI started realizing, hey, let's
(20:05):
actually learn this skill alittle bit.
I don't gotta become an expertat it yet, but let's be
moderately good at it before Istart recommending it to other
people.
So I feel like that's the firststep you should really take in
entrepreneurship.
I try to be gentle when I'mcoaching younger entrepreneurs,
because I did the same mistakeand they don't know any
different.
They saw a movie and anentrepreneur did that and they
(20:26):
thought that's the way they gotto do it.
So they start convincing you.
They know something they don'tand they really don't have the
skill.
So where this kind of translatesback into Bodcore is I kind of
changed my mindset on how Ieducate, coach and try to inform
people, meaning I will not sella product or service to
somebody else if I haven'tactually done it myself yet.
(20:48):
I wouldn't just sell it to you,recommend it to you because
someone told me about it.
I would say hey, or I wouldjust close that at least Like
hey, I've never used it yet, butthis is what I've learned about
it.
So it's really finding thatcareful line of just you can be
passionate about something youhaven't done yet, but at least
clarify to people hey, I'm justsuper excited and geeked up
about it, I haven't done it yet,but maybe we could do it
(21:11):
together and we can learn fromeach other, type thing.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah, I love it, and we call that transparency.
When you think of leadership,the leaders that are super
successful are the ones that aretransparent about things.
Hey, here's what I've learned.
Here's what I don't know yet.
One thing we're struggling within society is this thing called
trust, and if you want people totrust you, you got to be
transparent.
And people don't mind you saidI haven't tried it, I haven't
done it, but what they do have aproblem with is you've been
(21:35):
dishonest about it.
So I will tell you anentrepreneur as a leader,
regardless of where you findyourself, transparency matters.
Be honest and build trust withpeople in any industry, even in
my work.
You know I'm a leadershipconsultant.
We travel around and peoplebring us in to help them be
better connected with theirworkforce.
We love it.
We love helping leaders figureout how do I take care of and
connect with the people that areactually running my business
(21:56):
and do it in a manner that theywant to work for us, because
people get to choose where theywork at.
Today, it's a hard market tohire staff, so be a really great
leader, so people want to workfor you.
The most important thing I'velearned over time, for all of
our listeners is be trustworthy.
Sometimes it's going to costyou, but at least it won't cost
you your reputation.
If you lie and you win and itcatches up with you, it'll cost
you your reputation, probablyeverything else to follow.
(22:17):
So be very trustworthy, becausewe're struggling with that
right now.
What would you tellentrepreneurs that are listening
as we look at our time heretoday?
What would you leave them withwhen it comes to leading, or it
comes to self-care or it comesto just doing right for you
because you got to go first?
What would you leave us with?
Just?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
know that the truth will always surface.
It doesn't matter how hard youtry to prevent it, but the truth
will eventually always find itsway.
So back to what you were sayingbefore about being transparent.
You may work with someone todayand you may have a great story
to share and you may have aconviction behind the story to
(22:58):
make them believe that youbelieve it.
But if it's not truth and youcontinue that relationship with
that person, eventually you'regoing to slip up and say
something, or something elsewill just show itself and
they'll realize, man, all theseyears.
You lied to me in the verybeginning Like I love you now
and I trust you now becausewe've been through a lot
together and we get along great.
(23:18):
So I realize this is thebeginning.
But now I know what you'recapable of doing.
I know that you're capable oflooking me dead in the eye and
truly making me believe that youbelieve something that is not
true.
So just like know that youcannot hide from the truth, the
truth will always show itself.
So, just like, know that youcannot hide from the truth, the
truth will always show itself.
So back to your transparencypoint.
You know, just be upfront, behonest, as hard as it's going to
(23:42):
be, and sometimes it may slowdown your progress, but it is
worth it in the end because itwill force you to do things
right and people in the end willrespect you so much more for
taking longer to get there,because they know that you did
it right.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yes, I must endorse that 100%.
They will respect you fortaking the longer route and you
did it right.
So, jason, thank you forsharing so much.
Before we leave, how do peoplereach you or your product?
What do you want to leave uswith for people to reach out to
you if they're interested inknowing more about BotCorp?
Can you drop that informationor share it with us to you if
they're interested?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
in knowing more about Bodcore.
Can you drop that informationor share it with us?
Absolutely so.
At this stage I'm still overlyobsessed with communication and
managing all my own profiles.
So if you reach out to me atJason Velocic or at Bodcore, all
my social media handles are thesame.
Whether you go on LinkedIn orFacebook or Instagram, it's all
at Jason Velocic.
And if you want to go throughBodcore, it's all at Bodcore.
(24:35):
Spelled the same way you see iton my shirt right here
B-O-D-C-O-R.
But any message you send throughany platform that goes to Jason
Velocity or Bodcore, it doesget directly to me.
I do have a texting line.
You can call or text it at602-888-4669.
And again, that goes directlyto me 602-888-4669.
(24:59):
And I'm back into sharing phonenumbers because I think that's
something we've gotten away fromand people today they think
that if they message you onsocial media, you may or may not
ever get it, but if you givethem a phone number, you're more
likely to get to it.
And I can assure anyone who'slistening or watching this,
whether you contact me on socialmedia or my phone number or my
email, which is my first andlast name, jasonbelosik, at
(25:19):
gmailcom, no matter how you findme.
It will get to me because Irespond and answer everything.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yes, yes, and for the last name, for everyone that's
listening, that's B-A-L-A-S-E-K.
So if you want to reach out tohim, he's giving you everything.
He's giving you phone numbers,giving you contact.
Feel free to reach out.
I mean, we're in business butwe also want to help and we want
to add value to everybody.
Again, thank y'all for alwaysfollowing, thank you for telling
people about our podcast andinviting guests I mean, it makes
(25:46):
a difference and thank you forall of our as you continue to
grow your business or yourpersonal professional lives.
Again, ron Harvey, vicePresident of Global Core, you
can always follow us.
We release a podcast everysingle Monday and for those of
you that stay with us, thank youfor joining us.
Jason and I have enjoyed it andwe hope we added some value to
you to help you be moreeffective at taking care of the
people that you're responsiblefor and responsible to.
(26:07):
Until next time, jason and Iwill sign off.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Well, we hope you enjoyed this edition of Unpacked
Podcast with leadershipconsultant Ron Harvey.
Remember to join us everyMonday as Ron unpacks sound
advice, providing real answersfor real leadership challenges.
Until next time, remember toadd value and make a difference
where you are, for the peopleyou serve, because people always
matter.
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