April 9, 2025 • 32 mins
We delve into the rich folklore of Massachusetts, exploring ghost stories from various towns that showcase New England's deep connection to the supernatural and its history.
• Exploring how "Yankees" developed a reputation for frugality and practicality
• The accused witch of New Bedford who appears as an omen before tragedy strikes
• A ghostly fisherman in Plymouth who returns one last time to deliver fish to his fiancée
• The haunted Hoosac Tunnel in North Adams where workers witnessed blue apparitions
• Cape Cod's haunted captain's house where a shrouded figure stalks the hallways
• Revolutionary War soldier without a head who still patrols the streets of Amesbury
• Route 44's infamous hitchhiker who can run alongside cars at impossible speeds
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Courtney (00:00):
I still like the other ice better.
Nugget ice is superior.
I do think if I had the space Iwould own a nugget ice maker,
because this sounds good.
It's just not as good.
It's just not as satisfying aswhen you've got that nugget ice
all day.
It's like a little tire pitch,it's like, oh, that sound.
It's also two sips into tea.
(00:20):
So we'll see if we can makeintelligible conversation happen
, okay.
Hannah (00:36):
Hi, I'm Hannah and I'm Courtney.
Join us as we delve into truecrime, paranormal encounters and
all things spooky.
Courtney (00:42):
Grab your flashlight and get ready to wander into the
darkness with us.
Hannah (00:48):
This is Wicked.
Courtney (00:50):
Wanderings.
Hannah (01:07):
Hi Gourney.
Courtney (01:07):
Hi Hannah, how are you ?
I'm wonderful.
How are you?
Hannah (01:10):
Wonderful that we have tea and a dog.
Are we ready?
Courtney (01:14):
for my episode today.
I am I actually, for the firsttime in a while, think I don't
know what your episode is aboutuntil I'm sitting here.
Hannah (01:20):
Oh, I'm going to be talking about different lore
stories in Massachusetts.
Perfect.
Courtney (01:30):
I thought we need a little more spook.
We need a little bit more spook, we need a little bit more
local.
Hannah (01:33):
Yes, we do need more local.
So, anyways, I found this bookat the good BNN.
It's called SpookyMassachusetts Tales of Haunting,
Strange Happenings and OtherLocal Lore.
It's just like a compilation ofstories from different areas of
Massachusetts.
So as I'm reading it, it soundslike it's from like someone
sent in these stories to her tohelp her compile this book.
So as I'm reading them, you'llsee why it would sound like that
(01:55):
.
But something that she says inthe beginning of the book that I
just tickled me pink and I'lltell you why.
So she's talking about thepilgrims coming to massachusetts
.
Okay, but I do have to quoteeverybody and here I am quoting
little did they know, when theystepped ashore on plymouth rock,
that survival in this harsh newworld would force them to adapt
their customs and thinking, somuch that they would found a
whole new breed of plucky peoplethat we call yankees, we are
(02:19):
kind of lucky we are, and thereason I just so tickled by that
is because I remember my greataunt and great uncle.
So it was my grandmother's, mymom's side's brother and wife.
Okay, the stories of herreusing tinfoil like she would
wash it and hang it out on theline and that's like the first
thought that came to mind, likevery frugal, I feel like the
(02:42):
people of new england probablyare how the show extreme
cheapskates started.
Courtney (02:48):
I don't know, did you?
Hannah (02:49):
ever watch that show.
No, I like.
Courtney (02:51):
I like the coupon people, though those, but that's
different, these people, it waslike they reuse their dental
floss they were like using clothnapkins for the bathroom and
then washing them and puttingthem back in, and they would
have these like beautiful, likemulti-million dollar homes, and
like one cabinet in the kitchenwould have items in it, and I
was like I just couldn't getpast as a kid, like why do they
(03:12):
need all these cabinets fornothing?
Hannah (03:14):
There's some things I don't mind being like reusable
stuff to save the environment,so like we have a Swiffer that
has pads to it, so you can useit a couple times and then you
wash it and you can take it backout again.
Courtney (03:24):
I don't mind doing that.
That's not cheesecake though.
That's how it's supposed to bedesigned to use.
That's different.
But dental floss that just.
My weird thing that everybodyalways tells me that's not a big
deal is, if you go to like agas station and you buy a bottle
of water, when people will keeprefilling, I'm like the
particles in the water,especially if you like leave it
in your car or you leave it outand it's not in the fridge or
(03:45):
whatever.
The minute it hits a certaintemperature that bottle is
breaking down in your water andyou can taste it.
Hannah (03:51):
That's my weird thing that I can't reuse.
There's some that say they'reBP free or whatever, but some
aren't Right.
Isn't that the kind of toxinthat gets in the water when it
heats up?
Yeah, rob did it this morningfor his Poland Springs the big
gallon jug, but I guess it'sokay for like one overuse
Probably.
Courtney (04:06):
But I think it's like if you also just leave it in the
car, that's the biggest one.
Hannah (04:10):
No, thank you no, no, no , but anyway.
So, new Englanders, we are adifferent breed.
Massachusetts, I believe, is adifferent breed.
Courtney (04:19):
If you know, you know, that's really.
Hannah (04:20):
Don't.
Courtney (04:20):
You're about to be very fascinated.
Hannah (04:23):
All right, so let's get into some spooky ghost stories.
So our first one's from NewBedford, massachusetts.
Okay, this woman decides to goto a friend's house for the
weekend.
Okay, cool, that's not unusual.
Right, it's late.
She has a couple hours drive tothe friend's house from her
work.
She gets this really weird,irky feeling.
You know the kind that you justget in your gut like I feel,
(04:45):
like I'm being watched orsomething's gonna happen.
Oh god, I hate it too.
There's like a shift in theforce.
You're just not sure where shekeeps driving.
She passes the town cemetery at9 52 pm.
I was like so very specific,very specific and weird very
specific and in the graveyardshe sees this light and remind
you it's dark.
Why is there a light on?
On the graveyard, she notices awoman walking among the
(05:08):
gravestones.
We all love a good graveyard, Imean, is this unusual?
depends on what the woman lookedlike, I suppose you know well,
the woman in the graveyard turns, sees her and knows she's being
watched and begins to chase thecar.
Uh-huh, yeah, I would probably.
Just she is so flustered by thetime she reaches her friend's
(05:31):
house and of course the friendis like like what the fuck
happened to?
you like what's going on so herfriend ends up telling the tale
of this terrifying woman andwith the figure with the scary
eyes, teeth like, it's just likesomething out of a horror movie
.
The friend says, oh, that's theghost of an accused witch.
She tells the tale of thiswoman who was accused of
witchcraft and if you see her,it means it's a bad omen.
(05:53):
Oh no, later that night therewas a knock on the door and the
police were there.
Her friend's parents die in acar accident at 9.52 pm.
Accident at 9 52 pm.
Oh my god right 952, creepy.
Courtney (06:09):
This also reminds me of the irish lore of the banshee
.
Hannah (06:11):
Refresh us on that one.
Okay, so the banshee is anirish folklore that this woman
will come to you in the middleof the night, and it usually
means there's gonna be a deathin your household, not
necessarily you but there's adeath, like within your actual,
like the home that you live in.
Okay, I don't know if this islike a carryover type of thing
or how much obviously truth isin it but I feel like all lore
(06:31):
starts off with a base in truthsomething, yeah, or a
coincidence.
At the very least, we'll move onto plymouth, okay, plymouth, so
the year is unknown, but basedoff the language in the tale, it
seems to be a time like beforecars, but like when ships were
still a big thing for liketravel and economy.
Somewhere in there and therewas a couple and the girl's name
(06:53):
was Polly, the boy's name wasJoe, and they were engaged.
So Joe worked for his dad onthis ship and they were
fishermen, so they would go offthe coast for a couple days, get
as seafood as they could.
Come back right.
Polly talks about how, insteadof getting flowers like other
girls, she would get baskets ofcod, which practical.
Her family loved it, but italways smelled like fish.
(07:15):
Not very romantic, but I guessin those days when you can have
food on the table, it wasprobably also market wise like a
higher prestige type of thingtoo, like I know, when you hear,
cod.
Courtney (07:24):
You don't think about that now, for like fish market.
Hannah (07:27):
Right, imagine you know fiance bringing you a cod.
Courtney (07:32):
Nope, yeah, exactly, I would be getting a new fiance.
Hannah (07:36):
So one day she was headed to town and she knew Joe
was on a work trip on the boat.
She wasn't planning on seeinghim at all, but all of a sudden
Joe is coming towards her with abasket of fish.
She's so happy to see him.
Minus the smell obviously Minusthe basket of fish that she
wishes was flowers Right.
And she's like oh, like hi,like where did you come from?
Hands her the basket and saysyou know how?
Courtney (08:01):
much.
I love you right Like you.
Of a sudden he vanishes andshe's left there with this bag
of fish okay, so the fish wasn'ta mirage, it was actually there
to her, okay, sorry gettingahead.
Hannah (08:13):
Okay, that's fine.
So of course she's like whatthe fuck happened?
Did I look down too long?
And then he had to go.
She brings the fish home andher parents love the meals of
fish and seafood that there are,so they were very excited.
They're like oh my, our in-lawsare providing for us.
This is great.
The next morning a neighbor isat the door, wants to speak
privately with polly's parents.
They come out of the room andher father tells her that Joe's
(08:34):
ship went down a storm a fewdays back and he died.
No, there's no way she startsgetting upset.
She's like wait a minute.
I just saw him yesterday and weate his fish for dinner.
Last night Her parents admittedthat when the mother put the
basket of seafood on the table,it vanished and they ended up
eating fish from the market lastnight.
Courtney (08:53):
And they just were like, casually, let me just put
this no, where did the fish go?
Let's go buy some in this story.
Hannah (09:00):
The mother was extremely distraught, like she had hid
something from her daughter.
Okay, because she was veryupset about that.
And they just kind of likereplace it, kind of like you
know, when you're I think oflike when your fish dies as a
kid and your parents don't wantyou to upset, so they go out and
get the same one.
Courtney (09:14):
Yeah, kind of like how I felt about it but yeah,
except it was already dead fish,already dead fish.
I thought it was interesting.
I was like, okay, this is aninteresting one, yeah, moving on
.
Oh, courtney, guess where we'regoing next?
Salem, nope, berth adams, yes,who's a tunnel?
Hannah (09:32):
yes, it's not mentioned as the bloody pit, but I'm
curious if you know this tale.
Okay, emma and her husband weresetting up for their life at
north adams.
They wanted to start a family,so the husband started working
for the railroad.
I'm sure you could probablytell a lot more about this.
I'm sure that was like a big,big deal, like that was a big
(09:52):
job back then, besides factoriesyeah, especially when they were
first putting the tunnel in andthings too.
Courtney (09:56):
There was a lot of jobs for the creation of it and
then a lot of jobs because thetrains were coming through.
Hannah (10:01):
This was such a big project because they were trying
to connect Boston to Troy, NewYork, which I don't think I
actually knew that it was goingto be that big of a piece of the
railroad system.
They begin working on thetunnel and his co-workers
already told him stories of thedeaths that were already
happening.
They told him the story about acouple years back when two men
were killed due to a prematureexplosion.
Do you know about a man?
Courtney (10:21):
named Ringo Kelly.
I don't know him by name.
I know they had that set ofdeaths from the explosion, which
was different than when thecentral shaft collapsed in.
Yes, okay, yeah, two separateunfortunate instances.
Hannah (10:33):
Perfect, so you probably will know most of the story.
So a man named Ringo Kelly wasresponsible.
He fled soon after the incident.
No one had seen him until hewas found in the tunnel a year
later after the incident,strangled.
It is said that the two menthat he killed were the ones
that killed him.
Courtney (10:49):
I mean, and that would make sense, so anybody who
isn't familiar with the tunnel,like it's miles long of tunnel
who isn't familiar with thetunnel.
Like it's miles long of tunnel,if you walk in, even five or
six feet, you can't andobviously you're not looking out
of the tunnel when you'relooking right right you can't
see anything.
You can't see anything at all,and it's very, very narrow in
there like there's no waysomebody would just be waiting
(11:09):
in there with, especially if atrain was expected to come
through just for somebody howfar have you been in it?
A couple of minutes in, but youcan't walk all the way through
it.
Hannah (11:19):
If a train were to come through you would be dead.
Courtney (11:21):
Like at a certain point it starts really wide and
then it gets narrow, obviously.
So at some points, like youwould be waiting, you either
have to be walking on the trackand you're only looking at like
maybe a foot at the very most oneither side of the track or you
have to wait until, like,there's like dips in the wall
where you could kind of like dipin.
But if a train came throughthere you would, you'd be dead.
Hannah (11:41):
So the railroad track is still used.
Yes, it was the purpose forphil going from boston to new
york I'm assuming it was.
Courtney (11:49):
Now it looks like they just do it for like foliage and
things, or for transport goodsokay.
So I don't believe it's apassenger rail that goes through
Like an Amtrak type of thing.
No, okay, I think they used todo a thing where you could like
buy tickets to ride through it,which I thought would be pretty
cool, but I don't think it's apassenger trail that goes
through it.
I think it's just goods thingsmoving in and out of the area
Interesting, okay 1967 he wascarrying away debris when he
(12:14):
heard an explosion.
Hannah (12:15):
He rushed to help and saw the shaft was up in flames,
which is the story you weretalking about.
13 men were caught down thereand there was nothing they could
do.
Time passed and the workcontinued and because of
different conditions, the mencould not be recovered yet, and
so every time he went to work hewould hear voices and it would
make his skin crawl, which Ican't imagine working that close
(12:35):
to it and just knowing thesepeople are down there, probably
dead at this point, but ofcourse you would probably hear
voices.
Courtney (12:41):
Well, also, what if they're not?
And the voices are actuallythem.
That's what would be in my head.
Hannah (12:45):
Absolutely.
Courtney (12:45):
Because you have no way of knowing.
And obviously I mean it was anunfortunate thing, but there was
no way to get them out.
Yeah, yeah.
Hannah (12:51):
One night he was wrapping up and he saw a group
of men shining blue and theirfeet were not touching the
ground, walking towards thetunnel.
They were able to retrieve themen and gave them proper burials
and he quit the railroad andwent to work for a shop.
Courtney (13:10):
So he obviously saw the ghost of the 13 men like
they were walking into workagain.
Well, I always thought likewhat a terrible way to go.
One because of the disaster,but two like damn, like damn.
If I'm gonna die, please don'tlet it be at work.
And if I am gonna die at work,I don't want to be haunting it.
Hannah (13:22):
I don't want to be stuck there yeah, I just I would hope
my death would just be quick,like I wouldn't have to stop,
like knowing you're dying right,like it's like being buried
alive and it hurts me.
Courtney (13:33):
Well then, that's kind of probably what it was like
being buried alive and it irksme.
Well then, that's kind ofprobably what it was like being
trapped down there yeah oh,moving on, north adams always
makes it in for the who'sexternal either that or the
holton mansion.
That was my second.
Hannah (13:46):
My second option, yeah and, a little bit honestly, I
was hoping that it would be adifferent story than the ones
that are really well known likeoh, did they get a different
kind of tale?
But, and nothing against thisbook.
Courtney (13:56):
There's some books that I find like do the lesser
known tales, and then there'ssome that I feel like do just
the big ones, because people areinterested in those, so it's
easier to sell a book.
I would imagine, yeah,absolutely all right.
Hannah (14:08):
Next we're going to the cape of the cod.
Two young friends were homefrom college and wanted to make
the most of their summer.
They wanted to get a couple ofwaitressing jobs and a cheap
place to live on the Cape forthe summer.
They knew it would be expensiveand they would not save much
money.
Well, a family friend actuallyreached out to one of them and
they said hey, we knew that youwanted to work on the Cape for
the summer.
We actually recently justbought a house.
(14:29):
We can't move in for a coupleof months.
Do you guys want to stay therefor the summer?
And we're like fuck, yeah, wedo.
Like absolutely, there's alwaysa catch.
So the girls jumped on it.
It was an old captain's house,which probably made it even
cooler that it was older girlseach got their own bedroom.
They started their jobs andmade it a tradition to go to the
beach whenever they could,which sounds like a typical
(14:51):
college girl summer.
One day they were walkingupstairs and one of the girls
felt this really cold draft.
She asked her friend like hey,did you?
Did you feel that like?
It just felt like this big windof cold.
She's like I don't know whatyou're talking about.
You're crazy.
One girl had the room at thetop of the stairs and the other
took the room at the end of thehall.
Well, one night, soon aftermoving in, the friend who had
(15:12):
the room at the top of thestairs started seeing a figure
in a shroud walking up the steps.
She was, of course, frozen infear.
She couldn't move.
And then she saw the figure wasturning towards her friend's
room.
Frozen in fear really became athing for her, because she's
like, oh, I'll be able to move,but like, having that fear and
not being able to move wassomething she actually came to
know very well.
But I want you to know,courtney, if, if this happened
(15:35):
to us, I would make sure I movedfor you.
I'm just saying.
Courtney (15:37):
I'm glad to hear that.
Yeah, I want to hear how scarythe thing is before I tell you
if I would or not.
Hannah (15:45):
She ends up falling asleep again.
I don't know, I don't know howExhaustion or just like well,
she'll have to defend herself.
And wakes up freaking out abouther friend.
So she rushes down the hall,sees that she's not there, but
then she hears noises in thekitchen.
She sees her friend.
The friend is fine makingbreakfast and she says she must
have had a nightmare Like Ididn't see anything last night.
(16:05):
Nothing happened.
She offered to switch roomswith her and the friend's like,
yes, can we please switch rooms?
The first couple nights arefine, but then the friend
experiences the same thing andshe is adamant.
She wants her old room back.
She's like bitch, I'm not doingthis anymore.
Fuck you, give me my room back.
The shrouded figure is seenagain and they say fuck it,
we're going home.
I cannot imagine being thatscared of something that I'm not
(16:31):
sure of what it is and justlike basically canceling the
rest of my summer.
Courtney (16:36):
I'd probably just say why don't we drag the other bed
into this room and we're bothjust sleeping here?
Hannah (16:38):
that's also a very good solution, or we just sleep in
this one bed right depending onthe size of the bed, or trying
to figure out like is it likeI'd want to?
Courtney (16:46):
like dig into the history of the place and be like
, well, is it harmful?
I'd probably like call theperson who owns the house.
My creepy ass would probablywant to stay because of it.
I'm also thinking of.
Hannah (16:57):
So I remember watching an episode of a ghost show and
this little boy kept seeingshadows in the middle of the
night and they came to find outthe way that the light from the
garage.
There was people passing infront of it, so it looked like
shadows in his room.
So I'd be like was it somethingon the street that you were
seeing?
Courtney (17:13):
or whatever.
You never staring at you likethat, because we watched that
one together, we did oh well,anyways, it's a good example.
It is a really good examplebecause the family was adamant
in that one that it was like no,it's something creepy.
And like.
Within a few hours they wereable to put the spotlight up and
be like oh, no it's becauseyou're walking in front of the
garage right, right, I forgotwhat you did.
Hannah (17:34):
Well, okay, Moving on.
So the school year soon beginsand the family friends give one
of the girls a call asking ifthey had experienced anything
strange in the house.
They explain that there was afigure that they kept seeing and
the couple was so glad thatthey weren't going crazy.
Looking at town files is thatthere was actually a widow who
(17:54):
could be seen in the housewaiting for her sea captain, who
never returned from home.
Some say it is the captainhimself haunting the house.
In the end the house was soldagain.
Courtney (18:03):
They didn't keep it, but see harmless though.
I know so to me.
The poor woman's just waitingfor her husband, who's not
coming.
You could just make friends orsomething Right, but for me it
sounds more like residual energy.
Hannah (18:12):
It sounds more like residual energy, right, not
haunting.
Courtney (18:14):
Yeah, I agree, but I think people loosely use the
word haunting Like we're allguilty of that.
Where we're like oh no, there'ssomething here.
It's haunting, yes, Likebecause there's something there,
we just assume that it'snegative or evil in some
capacity.
Hannah (18:26):
Because it sounds like they're just doing that same
motion and it just sounds likeresidual energy, like stuck in a
loop yeah, plus.
Courtney (18:32):
Stuck in a loop.
Yeah, plus, I also feel like Idon't know, and I've lived in
old buildings so maybe I just ammore accustomed to that, but I
think some people just can'tlive with the idea of something
being present, and some peoplecan't, like I think I would be
like, okay, I don't love it, butthey were here first and now
I'm here.
Hannah (18:49):
That's not how I feel, Like it just I don't know.
I mean, this building is old.
Courtney (18:54):
This building is old Provided because of what it was.
I don't think anything likesuper, you know.
Horrible happened before thisspot was here, I guess.
But we did.
Yeah, we talked about that.
Hannah (19:05):
Yeah, I think.
I think what the land is rightCould be haunted, not the
building Right.
Courtney (19:10):
Yes, and we've certainly had our times where
we're podcasting and we can hearsomething through.
We've heard things come throughthe board we're like and then
rob either doesn't hear it onthe playback or there's no rhyme
or reason.
Earlier you were talking and Isaw a shadow.
I was like okay, I thought itwas your.
I thought it was lynn fromspringfield coming in.
I was like, oh, it must be 11.
(19:30):
I looked down.
Hannah (19:31):
I was like it's 10 okay, yeah, I mean I know we've also
talked about like I've heardfootsteps when rob's gone.
Yeah, last night even, like Iknow both of our boys were all
playing airsoft all day and Iswear I heard the door creak in
here and I was like, oh rob.
I was like wait a minute, rob'snot home.
Right, like why?
Courtney (19:49):
I know it's not him and certain houses have certain
like.
Even at my house there's acertain step.
When you're coming up, I canhear the front door and then I
can hear one step, yeah, andprovided, like other people live
in the building too, right.
But when I know everyone's homeand it's like 2 am and I'm like
okay yep, absolutely same thingwith the land for that place.
Yeah, I would have kept her.
(20:10):
I would have kept her too poorlady.
Plus, I just also have a hardtime when people purchase an old
house and they like want thelure of something old, but then
they can't handle that somethingold actually has history, yep.
Hannah (20:23):
Good, bad ugly.
Yeah, the wood keeps energyreally well, which we've learned
.
Courtney (20:28):
And I also just feel like the whole thing of like
near the sea, like I just feellike you like wanted the
aesthetic of something but thenyou couldn't handle it when you
got it.
Yep, you like wanted theaesthetic of something, but then
you couldn't handle it when yougot it.
Yep, absolutely should havekept her, I know, I bet she was
lovely.
I bet she was too.
Amesbury, amesbury.
One of my college roommates wasfrom amesbury.
Oh really hi friend.
Hannah (20:49):
So a man comes back from world war ii and unfortunately
lost his leg.
Even with this tragiccircumstance he was just happy
to be home with his family andfiance.
Everyone wanted to see him,everyone was happy to have him
back.
His fiance had to go get herdress fitted because, like now
that he's home, like great,let's have this wedding right.
So she decided to go into townfor a bit and just leave him to
(21:10):
have some family time.
After a while he starts gettingantsy and he decided to go for
a walk, and of course he hascrutches, so walking is a little
more difficult.
Antsy and he decided to go fora walk, and of course he has
crutches, so walking is a littlemore difficult for him.
But he wants to keep hisindependence.
With some deterrents from hisfamily he's like no, like fuck
you guys, I need to go take awalk, I need to take some space.
So Azat sees him off and sayssomething very strange OK, be
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careful, the soldier that'slooking for his head, what the
his head?
What the hell like?
That's a really strange thingto say someone that's going on a
walk especially somebody whojust came back from war and
apparently was at normandy thatwas something they said in the
story likethat is very strange.
Yeah, sun is setting and thestreets are getting quieter.
The kids are going home, theparents are calling them in the,
you know, the cars are less onthe road, just kind of picture
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of like the street lights comingon and it's getting dark.
As he keeps walking, he sees agentleman up ahead coming
towards him and what his auntsaid pops into his head again.
He feels silly because comparedto what he's seeing in the war,
he's like I can deal with aghost, right Right.
As the man approaches henotices that he is in uniform,
but it's not the World War IIuniform, it's the Revolutionary
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War uniform and he has no head.
Courtney (22:18):
So obviously you know it's not a real person who's
actually there, because a headis a very crucial component.
Hannah (22:23):
Exactly so this guy bolts and you imagine this poor
man with one leg hobbling oncrutches.
She did warn him, to be fair.
She did.
He makes it all the way to townsomehow.
I don't know how close town is,but he made it there.
He finds the shop his fiance isat and he barges in, starts
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freaking out and of course she'slike what the hell happened
first?
Courtney (22:45):
of all.
Hannah (22:45):
What are you doing?
Courtney (22:45):
here.
This is my dress fitting.
Hannah (22:46):
Get here, yes.
So he decides to go wait forher in the car.
He grabs a blanket out of theback seat, hides underneath the
dashboard, puts the blanket overhis head.
I'm thinking from herperspective like, oh my god, is
he having like ptsd attack typething.
So she comes out to see him andshe finally gets him to sit
down and she's like what thefuck happened?
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I'm gonna bring you home, areyou okay?
And so we should have to sit.
He starts talking about oh yeah, I saw that soldier that haunts
the streets, that has no head.
And she's like oh yeah, that'sbeen local lore forever.
Apparently it happened in theRevolutionary War.
He got shot off by a cannon andnow he haunts the streets for
over 200 years looking for it.
Poor guy, I know he's harmless.
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She said, yeah, again.
Is that just like a residualenergy type thing?
Courtney (23:36):
Obviously, that land used to be something else and
it's just I don't think a lot ofpeople put a lot of thought
into what used to be places.
Yes, absolutely.
Hannah (23:51):
Or like, if they think what used to be, it's like what
used to be like 30 years ago,not like 300 years ago.
It used to be like somemetropolis right here.
It was something else at thetime, right.
Courtney (23:56):
Absolutely used to be like some metropolis right here.
It was something else at thetime.
Right, absolutely, or I thinkespecially for kind of where we
are too geographically.
I think a lot of people justassume like oh, it was farmland,
oh, it was farmland before itwas farmland, it was something
too right.
Hannah (24:08):
There's something I also want to.
There was this story out of ohwestboro, but it ended up being
a native american story.
I feel so ignorant and stupidsometimes because I'm like, oh
my God, yeah, because obviouslythis was Native American land.
They had a story from Westboroat the lake that was there.
So, just to the point of whatyou're saying is like this used
to be something else than whatit is now.
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It obviously wasn't all carsand railroads and planes and car
dealerships right and teaplaces.
All right, are we ready for thenext one?
Yes, okay, this is a very weirdtown.
I've never heard of it.
Sorry, whoever lives here.
Rehoboth massachusetts.
Courtney (24:47):
Uh-huh, hang on.
How do we spell that?
Let's, let's figure out.
I looked it up already.
I need to.
Hannah (24:52):
I need to conceptualize this.
It's right near rhode island,r-e-, h-o-b-o-t-h.
It's diagonal Like Rehoboth orright across from Providence,
okay.
Courtney (25:04):
I had to look it up.
I'm like where the hell isRehoboth?
Oh, it's near Seekonk.
Hannah (25:07):
Girl, do I look like I know where Seekonk is?
It's also it's past taunton.
Okay, taunton, I know, yeah,most people.
But I had to look it up like,oh, it's actually really close
to rhode island and fall river.
It's pretty cool, oh, where ourgirl liz bath is from.
Yes, I was thinking you wouldknow where it was, because
you're always in rhode island.
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Nope, I had interesting.
Courtney (25:30):
I've never even heard of that place.
Like sometimes there's thoseplaces that you've heard of and
you're like, oh, I just don'tknow where it is yeah no do you
know route 44?
Hannah (25:38):
yes, okay, we're gonna talk about route 44, okay, okay.
So friends were together, kindof like at a diner type thing.
They were discussing the taleof the hitchhiker on route 44,
okay.
So one couple was adamant, likethis ghost is real.
The other ones are like no,they're not the ones that said
they don't believe it.
Like all right, well, if we seethis guy, we'll owe you pizza
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for a year, that's a good deal.
I know, right, I would take thatdeal.
Don't have anything to lose,right?
You just eat no pizza or youget pizza.
So after they parted ways, thedoubting couple decided to take
Route 44.
Let's take that home and seewhat happens.
Oh no, they wanted to provetheir friends wrong.
Well, they're driving alongwhen the woman notices a man
with a red beard and hair.
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He had on like a lumberjackshirt type thing and jeans.
He's jogging alongside the carwhich, mind you, is going
between 50 and 60 miles per hour.
Courtney (26:32):
So you know he's not really there because, but she is
freaked the fuck out.
I mean, I don't blame her.
It's almost like he heard herdoubting yes, I was like, here I
am.
Hannah (26:40):
Yes she starts freaking out, telling her husband to
drive faster.
But before long the hitchhikeris now sitting in the back seat.
So this woman is taking herpurse and whamming this guy in
the face.
Now what happens if we'rehitting a ghost courtney?
Probably nothing, nothing,probably nothing.
Courtney (26:55):
They might just get mad.
Hannah (26:57):
It's going right through them.
Probably Right, I wouldprobably just stop the car and
get out.
So she's yelling at this man toget the fuck out of my car and
he's laughing.
He thinks it's hilarious.
Then she notices she remembersshe has a rosary around her neck
.
She starts saying the rosary hedoesn't like, it ends up
vanishing and then they make ithome.
Courtney (27:23):
Courtney's just staring at me like I don't.
I feel like maybe, if youdidn't know, I'm trying to like
think about her response.
I guess, like if you didn'tknow about the ghost, if you
didn't know that it was a thing,you might be like, oh my gosh,
where did this person come from?
And like first instinct I cansee taking a swing to be like,
uh, because your first instinctis not going to be hey, there's
a person sitting here.
Hannah (27:37):
They must be a ghost Right.
Courtney (27:38):
But if you were just spending your whole dinner out
talking about this and then youwent looking for it, I just
think you'd be a little bit moreprepared.
Hannah (27:46):
Well, I guess the guy woke up and he was like well, it
looks like I owe someone pizza.
And what was the husband'sresponse to that?
He just kept driving, he.
So he was swerving, and I don'tknow if part of what the
hitchhiker wants to do is causea car crash.
Okay, because that's whatseemed like from the story, like
he was just trying to getcontrol back of the car because
he didn't want to crash, but hejust he kept driving as best as
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he could and then he, the guy,finally vanished interesting,
and it makes me wonder if it's ahitchhiker or if it's somebody
who also got into an accidentand he's like okay, let's get
friends, yeah, let's but there'sa another story that my
neighbor joe talks about, withan apparition of some sort in
munson.
There's a part of munson roadthat they see an apparition on
really I'll have to ask him whatthe whole story is, but it's
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interesting.
You heard that one right, thatwas me no, you didn't move the
crash hello.
On that note, maybe we'll gotalk to ghosts for a while we'll
do something interesting pick acard, any card.
Courtney (28:50):
Oh, it's my turn to pick.
It is your turn.
Oh, I really hope I canpronounce the person's name.
I always feel so inadequatewhen I'm doing this activity.
I think I want this one.
Okay, so we have the three ofspades.
It is Devin Murphy.
On October 13th 2002, thevictim was at a house party at 4
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Weaver Street in Wareham.
There was an altercationoutside and he was fatally
stabbed.
Oh, if you have any info aboutthis case, please call
1-855-MA-SOLVE.
Hannah (29:25):
Dude, that's fucked up If he was at a party.
He looks so young too.
He was at a party and no onesaw shit or is willing to come
forward with it.
That's what.
Courtney (29:32):
I think is really interesting.
It's like and so what I thinkis really interesting?
It's like and so often you hearthat this person was at a party
and then nothing, and it reallymakes me wonder, like I guess
first were they a guest of theparty and people knew they were
there, or were they someone whowas like maybe not supposed to
be there.
Yeah, he looks so young.
Sucks Looks so young.
These are always such a.
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We have to find a new way to docards, because I feel like we
have like a lighthearted episodetalking about something and
then we end with this like sadimage of somebody that makes my
heart hurt.
Hannah (30:03):
Well, thank you, courtney, for joining me on this
lore journey, and there will bemore upcoming.
Courtney (30:08):
I can't wait.
Maybe I'll try to find some ofmy own counters.
Yes, I would love that.
And your stories, please do,please do, yes.
Hannah (30:13):
I would love that you can blow holes in your stories,
please do.
Courtney (30:14):
Please do.
Hannah (30:15):
Because, again, obviously these are just
people's tales that get passeddown, and I think that's what
makes them fun.
Courtney (30:20):
Absolutely, because they're always different, and
then if you've ever hadsomething that happened like one
of those stories, let us know.
Text us, not just you, cousinMark.
Hannah (30:31):
Okay, bye, wanderers, bye.
Thanks for listening today.
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I still like the other ice better.
Nugget ice is superior.
I do think if I had the space Iwould own a nugget ice maker,
because this sounds good.
It's just not as good.
It's just not as satisfying aswhen you've got that nugget ice
all day.
It's like a little tire pitch,it's like, oh, that sound.
It's also two sips into tea.
(00:20):
So we'll see if we can makeintelligible conversation happen
, okay.
Hannah (00:36):
Hi, I'm Hannah and I'm Courtney.
Join us as we delve into truecrime, paranormal encounters and
all things spooky.
Courtney (00:42):
Grab your flashlight and get ready to wander into the
darkness with us.
Hannah (00:48):
This is Wicked.
Courtney (00:50):
Wanderings.
Hannah (01:07):
Hi Gourney.
Courtney (01:07):
Hi Hannah, how are you ?
I'm wonderful.
How are you?
Hannah (01:10):
Wonderful that we have tea and a dog.
Are we ready?
Courtney (01:14):
for my episode today.
I am I actually, for the firsttime in a while, think I don't
know what your episode is aboutuntil I'm sitting here.
Hannah (01:20):
Oh, I'm going to be talking about different lore
stories in Massachusetts.
Perfect.
Courtney (01:30):
I thought we need a little more spook.
We need a little bit more spook, we need a little bit more
local.
Hannah (01:33):
Yes, we do need more local.
So, anyways, I found this bookat the good BNN.
It's called SpookyMassachusetts Tales of Haunting,
Strange Happenings and OtherLocal Lore.
It's just like a compilation ofstories from different areas of
Massachusetts.
So as I'm reading it, it soundslike it's from like someone
sent in these stories to her tohelp her compile this book.
So as I'm reading them, you'llsee why it would sound like that
(01:55):
.
But something that she says inthe beginning of the book that I
just tickled me pink and I'lltell you why.
So she's talking about thepilgrims coming to massachusetts
.
Okay, but I do have to quoteeverybody and here I am quoting
little did they know, when theystepped ashore on plymouth rock,
that survival in this harsh newworld would force them to adapt
their customs and thinking, somuch that they would found a
whole new breed of plucky peoplethat we call yankees, we are
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kind of lucky we are, and thereason I just so tickled by that
is because I remember my greataunt and great uncle.
So it was my grandmother's, mymom's side's brother and wife.
Okay, the stories of herreusing tinfoil like she would
wash it and hang it out on theline and that's like the first
thought that came to mind, likevery frugal, I feel like the
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people of new england probablyare how the show extreme
cheapskates started.
Courtney (02:48):
I don't know, did you?
Hannah (02:49):
ever watch that show.
No, I like.
Courtney (02:51):
I like the coupon people, though those, but that's
different, these people, it waslike they reuse their dental
floss they were like using clothnapkins for the bathroom and
then washing them and puttingthem back in, and they would
have these like beautiful, likemulti-million dollar homes, and
like one cabinet in the kitchenwould have items in it, and I
was like I just couldn't getpast as a kid, like why do they
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need all these cabinets fornothing?
Hannah (03:14):
There's some things I don't mind being like reusable
stuff to save the environment,so like we have a Swiffer that
has pads to it, so you can useit a couple times and then you
wash it and you can take it backout again.
Courtney (03:24):
I don't mind doing that.
That's not cheesecake though.
That's how it's supposed to bedesigned to use.
That's different.
But dental floss that just.
My weird thing that everybodyalways tells me that's not a big
deal is, if you go to like agas station and you buy a bottle
of water, when people will keeprefilling, I'm like the
particles in the water,especially if you like leave it
in your car or you leave it outand it's not in the fridge or
(03:45):
whatever.
The minute it hits a certaintemperature that bottle is
breaking down in your water andyou can taste it.
Hannah (03:51):
That's my weird thing that I can't reuse.
There's some that say they'reBP free or whatever, but some
aren't Right.
Isn't that the kind of toxinthat gets in the water when it
heats up?
Yeah, rob did it this morningfor his Poland Springs the big
gallon jug, but I guess it'sokay for like one overuse
Probably.
Courtney (04:06):
But I think it's like if you also just leave it in the
car, that's the biggest one.
Hannah (04:10):
No, thank you no, no, no , but anyway.
So, new Englanders, we are adifferent breed.
Massachusetts, I believe, is adifferent breed.
Courtney (04:19):
If you know, you know, that's really.
Hannah (04:20):
Don't.
Courtney (04:20):
You're about to be very fascinated.
Hannah (04:23):
All right, so let's get into some spooky ghost stories.
So our first one's from NewBedford, massachusetts.
Okay, this woman decides to goto a friend's house for the
weekend.
Okay, cool, that's not unusual.
Right, it's late.
She has a couple hours drive tothe friend's house from her
work.
She gets this really weird,irky feeling.
You know the kind that you justget in your gut like I feel,
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like I'm being watched orsomething's gonna happen.
Oh god, I hate it too.
There's like a shift in theforce.
You're just not sure where shekeeps driving.
She passes the town cemetery at9 52 pm.
I was like so very specific,very specific and weird very
specific and in the graveyardshe sees this light and remind
you it's dark.
Why is there a light on?
On the graveyard, she notices awoman walking among the
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gravestones.
We all love a good graveyard, Imean, is this unusual?
depends on what the woman lookedlike, I suppose you know well,
the woman in the graveyard turns, sees her and knows she's being
watched and begins to chase thecar.
Uh-huh, yeah, I would probably.
Just she is so flustered by thetime she reaches her friend's
(05:31):
house and of course the friendis like like what the fuck
happened to?
you like what's going on so herfriend ends up telling the tale
of this terrifying woman andwith the figure with the scary
eyes, teeth like, it's just likesomething out of a horror movie
.
The friend says, oh, that's theghost of an accused witch.
She tells the tale of thiswoman who was accused of
witchcraft and if you see her,it means it's a bad omen.
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Oh no, later that night therewas a knock on the door and the
police were there.
Her friend's parents die in acar accident at 9.52 pm.
Accident at 9 52 pm.
Oh my god right 952, creepy.
Courtney (06:09):
This also reminds me of the irish lore of the banshee
.
Hannah (06:11):
Refresh us on that one.
Okay, so the banshee is anirish folklore that this woman
will come to you in the middleof the night, and it usually
means there's gonna be a deathin your household, not
necessarily you but there's adeath, like within your actual,
like the home that you live in.
Okay, I don't know if this islike a carryover type of thing
or how much obviously truth isin it but I feel like all lore
(06:31):
starts off with a base in truthsomething, yeah, or a
coincidence.
At the very least, we'll move onto plymouth, okay, plymouth, so
the year is unknown, but basedoff the language in the tale, it
seems to be a time like beforecars, but like when ships were
still a big thing for liketravel and economy.
Somewhere in there and therewas a couple and the girl's name
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was Polly, the boy's name wasJoe, and they were engaged.
So Joe worked for his dad onthis ship and they were
fishermen, so they would go offthe coast for a couple days, get
as seafood as they could.
Come back right.
Polly talks about how, insteadof getting flowers like other
girls, she would get baskets ofcod, which practical.
Her family loved it, but italways smelled like fish.
(07:15):
Not very romantic, but I guessin those days when you can have
food on the table, it wasprobably also market wise like a
higher prestige type of thingtoo, like I know, when you hear,
cod.
Courtney (07:24):
You don't think about that now, for like fish market.
Hannah (07:27):
Right, imagine you know fiance bringing you a cod.
Courtney (07:32):
Nope, yeah, exactly, I would be getting a new fiance.
Hannah (07:36):
So one day she was headed to town and she knew Joe
was on a work trip on the boat.
She wasn't planning on seeinghim at all, but all of a sudden
Joe is coming towards her with abasket of fish.
She's so happy to see him.
Minus the smell obviously Minusthe basket of fish that she
wishes was flowers Right.
And she's like oh, like hi,like where did you come from?
Hands her the basket and saysyou know how?
Courtney (08:01):
much.
I love you right Like you.
Of a sudden he vanishes andshe's left there with this bag
of fish okay, so the fish wasn'ta mirage, it was actually there
to her, okay, sorry gettingahead.
Hannah (08:13):
Okay, that's fine.
So of course she's like whatthe fuck happened?
Did I look down too long?
And then he had to go.
She brings the fish home andher parents love the meals of
fish and seafood that there are,so they were very excited.
They're like oh my, our in-lawsare providing for us.
This is great.
The next morning a neighbor isat the door, wants to speak
privately with polly's parents.
They come out of the room andher father tells her that Joe's
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ship went down a storm a fewdays back and he died.
No, there's no way she startsgetting upset.
She's like wait a minute.
I just saw him yesterday and weate his fish for dinner.
Last night Her parents admittedthat when the mother put the
basket of seafood on the table,it vanished and they ended up
eating fish from the market lastnight.
Courtney (08:53):
And they just were like, casually, let me just put
this no, where did the fish go?
Let's go buy some in this story.
Hannah (09:00):
The mother was extremely distraught, like she had hid
something from her daughter.
Okay, because she was veryupset about that.
And they just kind of likereplace it, kind of like you
know, when you're I think oflike when your fish dies as a
kid and your parents don't wantyou to upset, so they go out and
get the same one.
Courtney (09:14):
Yeah, kind of like how I felt about it but yeah,
except it was already dead fish,already dead fish.
I thought it was interesting.
I was like, okay, this is aninteresting one, yeah, moving on
.
Oh, courtney, guess where we'regoing next?
Salem, nope, berth adams, yes,who's a tunnel?
Hannah (09:32):
yes, it's not mentioned as the bloody pit, but I'm
curious if you know this tale.
Okay, emma and her husband weresetting up for their life at
north adams.
They wanted to start a family,so the husband started working
for the railroad.
I'm sure you could probablytell a lot more about this.
I'm sure that was like a big,big deal, like that was a big
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job back then, besides factoriesyeah, especially when they were
first putting the tunnel in andthings too.
Courtney (09:56):
There was a lot of jobs for the creation of it and
then a lot of jobs because thetrains were coming through.
Hannah (10:01):
This was such a big project because they were trying
to connect Boston to Troy, NewYork, which I don't think I
actually knew that it was goingto be that big of a piece of the
railroad system.
They begin working on thetunnel and his co-workers
already told him stories of thedeaths that were already
happening.
They told him the story about acouple years back when two men
were killed due to a prematureexplosion.
Do you know about a man?
Courtney (10:21):
named Ringo Kelly.
I don't know him by name.
I know they had that set ofdeaths from the explosion, which
was different than when thecentral shaft collapsed in.
Yes, okay, yeah, two separateunfortunate instances.
Hannah (10:33):
Perfect, so you probably will know most of the story.
So a man named Ringo Kelly wasresponsible.
He fled soon after the incident.
No one had seen him until hewas found in the tunnel a year
later after the incident,strangled.
It is said that the two menthat he killed were the ones
that killed him.
Courtney (10:49):
I mean, and that would make sense, so anybody who
isn't familiar with the tunnel,like it's miles long of tunnel
who isn't familiar with thetunnel.
Like it's miles long of tunnel,if you walk in, even five or
six feet, you can't andobviously you're not looking out
of the tunnel when you'relooking right right you can't
see anything.
You can't see anything at all,and it's very, very narrow in
there like there's no waysomebody would just be waiting
(11:09):
in there with, especially if atrain was expected to come
through just for somebody howfar have you been in it?
A couple of minutes in, but youcan't walk all the way through
it.
Hannah (11:19):
If a train were to come through you would be dead.
Courtney (11:21):
Like at a certain point it starts really wide and
then it gets narrow, obviously.
So at some points, like youwould be waiting, you either
have to be walking on the trackand you're only looking at like
maybe a foot at the very most oneither side of the track or you
have to wait until, like,there's like dips in the wall
where you could kind of like dipin.
But if a train came throughthere you would, you'd be dead.
Hannah (11:41):
So the railroad track is still used.
Yes, it was the purpose forphil going from boston to new
york I'm assuming it was.
Courtney (11:49):
Now it looks like they just do it for like foliage and
things, or for transport goodsokay.
So I don't believe it's apassenger rail that goes through
Like an Amtrak type of thing.
No, okay, I think they used todo a thing where you could like
buy tickets to ride through it,which I thought would be pretty
cool, but I don't think it's apassenger trail that goes
through it.
I think it's just goods thingsmoving in and out of the area
Interesting, okay 1967 he wascarrying away debris when he
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heard an explosion.
Hannah (12:15):
He rushed to help and saw the shaft was up in flames,
which is the story you weretalking about.
13 men were caught down thereand there was nothing they could
do.
Time passed and the workcontinued and because of
different conditions, the mencould not be recovered yet, and
so every time he went to work hewould hear voices and it would
make his skin crawl, which Ican't imagine working that close
(12:35):
to it and just knowing thesepeople are down there, probably
dead at this point, but ofcourse you would probably hear
voices.
Courtney (12:41):
Well, also, what if they're not?
And the voices are actuallythem.
That's what would be in my head.
Hannah (12:45):
Absolutely.
Courtney (12:45):
Because you have no way of knowing.
And obviously I mean it was anunfortunate thing, but there was
no way to get them out.
Yeah, yeah.
Hannah (12:51):
One night he was wrapping up and he saw a group
of men shining blue and theirfeet were not touching the
ground, walking towards thetunnel.
They were able to retrieve themen and gave them proper burials
and he quit the railroad andwent to work for a shop.
Courtney (13:10):
So he obviously saw the ghost of the 13 men like
they were walking into workagain.
Well, I always thought likewhat a terrible way to go.
One because of the disaster,but two like damn, like damn.
If I'm gonna die, please don'tlet it be at work.
And if I am gonna die at work,I don't want to be haunting it.
Hannah (13:22):
I don't want to be stuck there yeah, I just I would hope
my death would just be quick,like I wouldn't have to stop,
like knowing you're dying right,like it's like being buried
alive and it hurts me.
Courtney (13:33):
Well then, that's kind of probably what it was like
being buried alive and it irksme.
Well then, that's kind ofprobably what it was like being
trapped down there yeah oh,moving on, north adams always
makes it in for the who'sexternal either that or the
holton mansion.
That was my second.
Hannah (13:46):
My second option, yeah and, a little bit honestly, I
was hoping that it would be adifferent story than the ones
that are really well known likeoh, did they get a different
kind of tale?
But, and nothing against thisbook.
Courtney (13:56):
There's some books that I find like do the lesser
known tales, and then there'ssome that I feel like do just
the big ones, because people areinterested in those, so it's
easier to sell a book.
I would imagine, yeah,absolutely all right.
Hannah (14:08):
Next we're going to the cape of the cod.
Two young friends were homefrom college and wanted to make
the most of their summer.
They wanted to get a couple ofwaitressing jobs and a cheap
place to live on the Cape forthe summer.
They knew it would be expensiveand they would not save much
money.
Well, a family friend actuallyreached out to one of them and
they said hey, we knew that youwanted to work on the Cape for
the summer.
We actually recently justbought a house.
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We can't move in for a coupleof months.
Do you guys want to stay therefor the summer?
And we're like fuck, yeah, wedo.
Like absolutely, there's alwaysa catch.
So the girls jumped on it.
It was an old captain's house,which probably made it even
cooler that it was older girlseach got their own bedroom.
They started their jobs andmade it a tradition to go to the
beach whenever they could,which sounds like a typical
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college girl summer.
One day they were walkingupstairs and one of the girls
felt this really cold draft.
She asked her friend like hey,did you?
Did you feel that like?
It just felt like this big windof cold.
She's like I don't know whatyou're talking about.
You're crazy.
One girl had the room at thetop of the stairs and the other
took the room at the end of thehall.
Well, one night, soon aftermoving in, the friend who had
(15:12):
the room at the top of thestairs started seeing a figure
in a shroud walking up the steps.
She was, of course, frozen infear.
She couldn't move.
And then she saw the figure wasturning towards her friend's
room.
Frozen in fear really became athing for her, because she's
like, oh, I'll be able to move,but like, having that fear and
not being able to move wassomething she actually came to
know very well.
But I want you to know,courtney, if, if this happened
(15:35):
to us, I would make sure I movedfor you.
I'm just saying.
Courtney (15:37):
I'm glad to hear that.
Yeah, I want to hear how scarythe thing is before I tell you
if I would or not.
Hannah (15:45):
She ends up falling asleep again.
I don't know, I don't know howExhaustion or just like well,
she'll have to defend herself.
And wakes up freaking out abouther friend.
So she rushes down the hall,sees that she's not there, but
then she hears noises in thekitchen.
She sees her friend.
The friend is fine makingbreakfast and she says she must
have had a nightmare Like Ididn't see anything last night.
(16:05):
Nothing happened.
She offered to switch roomswith her and the friend's like,
yes, can we please switch rooms?
The first couple nights arefine, but then the friend
experiences the same thing andshe is adamant.
She wants her old room back.
She's like bitch, I'm not doingthis anymore.
Fuck you, give me my room back.
The shrouded figure is seenagain and they say fuck it,
we're going home.
I cannot imagine being thatscared of something that I'm not
(16:31):
sure of what it is and justlike basically canceling the
rest of my summer.
Courtney (16:36):
I'd probably just say why don't we drag the other bed
into this room and we're bothjust sleeping here?
Hannah (16:38):
that's also a very good solution, or we just sleep in
this one bed right depending onthe size of the bed, or trying
to figure out like is it likeI'd want to?
Courtney (16:46):
like dig into the history of the place and be like
, well, is it harmful?
I'd probably like call theperson who owns the house.
My creepy ass would probablywant to stay because of it.
I'm also thinking of.
Hannah (16:57):
So I remember watching an episode of a ghost show and
this little boy kept seeingshadows in the middle of the
night and they came to find outthe way that the light from the
garage.
There was people passing infront of it, so it looked like
shadows in his room.
So I'd be like was it somethingon the street that you were
seeing?
Courtney (17:13):
or whatever.
You never staring at you likethat, because we watched that
one together, we did oh well,anyways, it's a good example.
It is a really good examplebecause the family was adamant
in that one that it was like no,it's something creepy.
And like.
Within a few hours they wereable to put the spotlight up and
be like oh, no it's becauseyou're walking in front of the
garage right, right, I forgotwhat you did.
Hannah (17:34):
Well, okay, Moving on.
So the school year soon beginsand the family friends give one
of the girls a call asking ifthey had experienced anything
strange in the house.
They explain that there was afigure that they kept seeing and
the couple was so glad thatthey weren't going crazy.
Looking at town files is thatthere was actually a widow who
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could be seen in the housewaiting for her sea captain, who
never returned from home.
Some say it is the captainhimself haunting the house.
In the end the house was soldagain.
Courtney (18:03):
They didn't keep it, but see harmless though.
I know so to me.
The poor woman's just waitingfor her husband, who's not
coming.
You could just make friends orsomething Right, but for me it
sounds more like residual energy.
Hannah (18:12):
It sounds more like residual energy, right, not
haunting.
Courtney (18:14):
Yeah, I agree, but I think people loosely use the
word haunting Like we're allguilty of that.
Where we're like oh no, there'ssomething here.
It's haunting, yes, Likebecause there's something there,
we just assume that it'snegative or evil in some
capacity.
Hannah (18:26):
Because it sounds like they're just doing that same
motion and it just sounds likeresidual energy, like stuck in a
loop yeah, plus.
Courtney (18:32):
Stuck in a loop.
Yeah, plus, I also feel like Idon't know, and I've lived in
old buildings so maybe I just ammore accustomed to that, but I
think some people just can'tlive with the idea of something
being present, and some peoplecan't, like I think I would be
like, okay, I don't love it, butthey were here first and now
I'm here.
Hannah (18:49):
That's not how I feel, Like it just I don't know.
I mean, this building is old.
Courtney (18:54):
This building is old Provided because of what it was.
I don't think anything likesuper, you know.
Horrible happened before thisspot was here, I guess.
But we did.
Yeah, we talked about that.
Hannah (19:05):
Yeah, I think.
I think what the land is rightCould be haunted, not the
building Right.
Courtney (19:10):
Yes, and we've certainly had our times where
we're podcasting and we can hearsomething through.
We've heard things come throughthe board we're like and then
rob either doesn't hear it onthe playback or there's no rhyme
or reason.
Earlier you were talking and Isaw a shadow.
I was like okay, I thought itwas your.
I thought it was lynn fromspringfield coming in.
I was like, oh, it must be 11.
(19:30):
I looked down.
Hannah (19:31):
I was like it's 10 okay, yeah, I mean I know we've also
talked about like I've heardfootsteps when rob's gone.
Yeah, last night even, like Iknow both of our boys were all
playing airsoft all day and Iswear I heard the door creak in
here and I was like, oh rob.
I was like wait a minute, rob'snot home.
Right, like why?
Courtney (19:49):
I know it's not him and certain houses have certain
like.
Even at my house there's acertain step.
When you're coming up, I canhear the front door and then I
can hear one step, yeah, andprovided, like other people live
in the building too, right.
But when I know everyone's homeand it's like 2 am and I'm like
okay yep, absolutely same thingwith the land for that place.
Yeah, I would have kept her.
(20:10):
I would have kept her too poorlady.
Plus, I just also have a hardtime when people purchase an old
house and they like want thelure of something old, but then
they can't handle that somethingold actually has history, yep.
Hannah (20:23):
Good, bad ugly.
Yeah, the wood keeps energyreally well, which we've learned
.
Courtney (20:28):
And I also just feel like the whole thing of like
near the sea, like I just feellike you like wanted the
aesthetic of something but thenyou couldn't handle it when you
got it.
Yep, you like wanted theaesthetic of something, but then
you couldn't handle it when yougot it.
Yep, absolutely should havekept her, I know, I bet she was
lovely.
I bet she was too.
Amesbury, amesbury.
One of my college roommates wasfrom amesbury.
Oh really hi friend.
Hannah (20:49):
So a man comes back from world war ii and unfortunately
lost his leg.
Even with this tragiccircumstance he was just happy
to be home with his family andfiance.
Everyone wanted to see him,everyone was happy to have him
back.
His fiance had to go get herdress fitted because, like now
that he's home, like great,let's have this wedding right.
So she decided to go into townfor a bit and just leave him to
(21:10):
have some family time.
After a while he starts gettingantsy and he decided to go for
a walk, and of course he hascrutches, so walking is a little
more difficult.
Antsy and he decided to go fora walk, and of course he has
crutches, so walking is a littlemore difficult for him.
But he wants to keep hisindependence.
With some deterrents from hisfamily he's like no, like fuck
you guys, I need to go take awalk, I need to take some space.
So Azat sees him off and sayssomething very strange OK, be
(21:30):
careful, the soldier that'slooking for his head, what the
his head?
What the hell like?
That's a really strange thingto say someone that's going on a
walk especially somebody whojust came back from war and
apparently was at normandy thatwas something they said in the
story likethat is very strange.
Yeah, sun is setting and thestreets are getting quieter.
The kids are going home, theparents are calling them in the,
you know, the cars are less onthe road, just kind of picture
(21:52):
of like the street lights comingon and it's getting dark.
As he keeps walking, he sees agentleman up ahead coming
towards him and what his auntsaid pops into his head again.
He feels silly because comparedto what he's seeing in the war,
he's like I can deal with aghost, right Right.
As the man approaches henotices that he is in uniform,
but it's not the World War IIuniform, it's the Revolutionary
(22:14):
War uniform and he has no head.
Courtney (22:18):
So obviously you know it's not a real person who's
actually there, because a headis a very crucial component.
Hannah (22:23):
Exactly so this guy bolts and you imagine this poor
man with one leg hobbling oncrutches.
She did warn him, to be fair.
She did.
He makes it all the way to townsomehow.
I don't know how close town is,but he made it there.
He finds the shop his fiance isat and he barges in, starts
(22:44):
freaking out and of course she'slike what the hell happened
first?
Courtney (22:45):
of all.
Hannah (22:45):
What are you doing?
Courtney (22:45):
here.
This is my dress fitting.
Hannah (22:46):
Get here, yes.
So he decides to go wait forher in the car.
He grabs a blanket out of theback seat, hides underneath the
dashboard, puts the blanket overhis head.
I'm thinking from herperspective like, oh my god, is
he having like ptsd attack typething.
So she comes out to see him andshe finally gets him to sit
down and she's like what thefuck happened?
(23:07):
I'm gonna bring you home, areyou okay?
And so we should have to sit.
He starts talking about oh yeah, I saw that soldier that haunts
the streets, that has no head.
And she's like oh yeah, that'sbeen local lore forever.
Apparently it happened in theRevolutionary War.
He got shot off by a cannon andnow he haunts the streets for
over 200 years looking for it.
Poor guy, I know he's harmless.
(23:31):
She said, yeah, again.
Is that just like a residualenergy type thing?
Courtney (23:36):
Obviously, that land used to be something else and
it's just I don't think a lot ofpeople put a lot of thought
into what used to be places.
Yes, absolutely.
Hannah (23:51):
Or like, if they think what used to be, it's like what
used to be like 30 years ago,not like 300 years ago.
It used to be like somemetropolis right here.
It was something else at thetime, right.
Courtney (23:56):
Absolutely used to be like some metropolis right here.
It was something else at thetime.
Right, absolutely, or I thinkespecially for kind of where we
are too geographically.
I think a lot of people justassume like oh, it was farmland,
oh, it was farmland before itwas farmland, it was something
too right.
Hannah (24:08):
There's something I also want to.
There was this story out of ohwestboro, but it ended up being
a native american story.
I feel so ignorant and stupidsometimes because I'm like, oh
my God, yeah, because obviouslythis was Native American land.
They had a story from Westboroat the lake that was there.
So, just to the point of whatyou're saying is like this used
to be something else than whatit is now.
(24:28):
It obviously wasn't all carsand railroads and planes and car
dealerships right and teaplaces.
All right, are we ready for thenext one?
Yes, okay, this is a very weirdtown.
I've never heard of it.
Sorry, whoever lives here.
Rehoboth massachusetts.
Courtney (24:47):
Uh-huh, hang on.
How do we spell that?
Let's, let's figure out.
I looked it up already.
I need to.
Hannah (24:52):
I need to conceptualize this.
It's right near rhode island,r-e-, h-o-b-o-t-h.
It's diagonal Like Rehoboth orright across from Providence,
okay.
Courtney (25:04):
I had to look it up.
I'm like where the hell isRehoboth?
Oh, it's near Seekonk.
Hannah (25:07):
Girl, do I look like I know where Seekonk is?
It's also it's past taunton.
Okay, taunton, I know, yeah,most people.
But I had to look it up like,oh, it's actually really close
to rhode island and fall river.
It's pretty cool, oh, where ourgirl liz bath is from.
Yes, I was thinking you wouldknow where it was, because
you're always in rhode island.
(25:29):
Nope, I had interesting.
Courtney (25:30):
I've never even heard of that place.
Like sometimes there's thoseplaces that you've heard of and
you're like, oh, I just don'tknow where it is yeah no do you
know route 44?
Hannah (25:38):
yes, okay, we're gonna talk about route 44, okay, okay.
So friends were together, kindof like at a diner type thing.
They were discussing the taleof the hitchhiker on route 44,
okay.
So one couple was adamant, likethis ghost is real.
The other ones are like no,they're not the ones that said
they don't believe it.
Like all right, well, if we seethis guy, we'll owe you pizza
(26:01):
for a year, that's a good deal.
I know, right, I would take thatdeal.
Don't have anything to lose,right?
You just eat no pizza or youget pizza.
So after they parted ways, thedoubting couple decided to take
Route 44.
Let's take that home and seewhat happens.
Oh no, they wanted to provetheir friends wrong.
Well, they're driving alongwhen the woman notices a man
with a red beard and hair.
(26:22):
He had on like a lumberjackshirt type thing and jeans.
He's jogging alongside the carwhich, mind you, is going
between 50 and 60 miles per hour.
Courtney (26:32):
So you know he's not really there because, but she is
freaked the fuck out.
I mean, I don't blame her.
It's almost like he heard herdoubting yes, I was like, here I
am.
Hannah (26:40):
Yes she starts freaking out, telling her husband to
drive faster.
But before long the hitchhikeris now sitting in the back seat.
So this woman is taking herpurse and whamming this guy in
the face.
Now what happens if we'rehitting a ghost courtney?
Probably nothing, nothing,probably nothing.
Courtney (26:55):
They might just get mad.
Hannah (26:57):
It's going right through them.
Probably Right, I wouldprobably just stop the car and
get out.
So she's yelling at this man toget the fuck out of my car and
he's laughing.
He thinks it's hilarious.
Then she notices she remembersshe has a rosary around her neck
.
She starts saying the rosary hedoesn't like, it ends up
vanishing and then they make ithome.
Courtney (27:23):
Courtney's just staring at me like I don't.
I feel like maybe, if youdidn't know, I'm trying to like
think about her response.
I guess, like if you didn'tknow about the ghost, if you
didn't know that it was a thing,you might be like, oh my gosh,
where did this person come from?
And like first instinct I cansee taking a swing to be like,
uh, because your first instinctis not going to be hey, there's
a person sitting here.
Hannah (27:37):
They must be a ghost Right.
Courtney (27:38):
But if you were just spending your whole dinner out
talking about this and then youwent looking for it, I just
think you'd be a little bit moreprepared.
Hannah (27:46):
Well, I guess the guy woke up and he was like well, it
looks like I owe someone pizza.
And what was the husband'sresponse to that?
He just kept driving, he.
So he was swerving, and I don'tknow if part of what the
hitchhiker wants to do is causea car crash.
Okay, because that's whatseemed like from the story, like
he was just trying to getcontrol back of the car because
he didn't want to crash, but hejust he kept driving as best as
(28:07):
he could and then he, the guy,finally vanished interesting,
and it makes me wonder if it's ahitchhiker or if it's somebody
who also got into an accidentand he's like okay, let's get
friends, yeah, let's but there'sa another story that my
neighbor joe talks about, withan apparition of some sort in
munson.
There's a part of munson roadthat they see an apparition on
really I'll have to ask him whatthe whole story is, but it's
(28:30):
interesting.
You heard that one right, thatwas me no, you didn't move the
crash hello.
On that note, maybe we'll gotalk to ghosts for a while we'll
do something interesting pick acard, any card.
Courtney (28:50):
Oh, it's my turn to pick.
It is your turn.
Oh, I really hope I canpronounce the person's name.
I always feel so inadequatewhen I'm doing this activity.
I think I want this one.
Okay, so we have the three ofspades.
It is Devin Murphy.
On October 13th 2002, thevictim was at a house party at 4
(29:12):
Weaver Street in Wareham.
There was an altercationoutside and he was fatally
stabbed.
Oh, if you have any info aboutthis case, please call
1-855-MA-SOLVE.
Hannah (29:25):
Dude, that's fucked up If he was at a party.
He looks so young too.
He was at a party and no onesaw shit or is willing to come
forward with it.
That's what.
Courtney (29:32):
I think is really interesting.
It's like and so what I thinkis really interesting?
It's like and so often you hearthat this person was at a party
and then nothing, and it reallymakes me wonder, like I guess
first were they a guest of theparty and people knew they were
there, or were they someone whowas like maybe not supposed to
be there.
Yeah, he looks so young.
Sucks Looks so young.
These are always such a.
(29:52):
We have to find a new way to docards, because I feel like we
have like a lighthearted episodetalking about something and
then we end with this like sadimage of somebody that makes my
heart hurt.
Hannah (30:03):
Well, thank you, courtney, for joining me on this
lore journey, and there will bemore upcoming.
Courtney (30:08):
I can't wait.
Maybe I'll try to find some ofmy own counters.
Yes, I would love that.
And your stories, please do,please do, yes.
Hannah (30:13):
I would love that you can blow holes in your stories,
please do.
Courtney (30:14):
Please do.
Hannah (30:15):
Because, again, obviously these are just
people's tales that get passeddown, and I think that's what
makes them fun.
Courtney (30:20):
Absolutely, because they're always different, and
then if you've ever hadsomething that happened like one
of those stories, let us know.
Text us, not just you, cousinMark.
Hannah (30:31):
Okay, bye, wanderers, bye.
Thanks for listening today.
Wicked Wanderings is hosted byme, hannah, and co-hosted by me,
courtney, and it's produced byRob Fitzpatrick Music by Sasha M
.
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