April 22, 2025 • 45 mins
When adversity knocks, many of us want to hide. The trick to prevailing in life is to face things head-on. Confronting adversity is a pivotal theme in our conversation with Grace Redman, a distinguished entrepreneur and resilience coach whose journey exemplifies the triumph of facing challenges head-on. She believes in true resilience, which she has demonstrated many times. She was named one of the top 5 women-owned businesses in the San Francisco Bay Area for 2024. She is the CEO of DareToAchieve.com and the host of the Real Talk with Grace Redman podcast. She believes that resilience is not merely an innate trait but a skill that can be cultivated through conscious effort and a determined mindset. Grace says the essence of true resilience lies in the ability to confront one's fears and limitations, transforming adversities into opportunities for growth. Throughout our conversation, Grace outlines practical strategies for mental fortitude, emphasizing the importance of self-belief, the reframing of negative thoughts, and the celebration of small victories as pivotal steps toward achieving extraordinary success. Grace's insights serve as a beacon for those seeking to overcome self-imposed limitations and navigate their unique paths to success. Learn more in this episode.
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I'm Shelly and Kathy's on assignment.
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When adversity knocks, many ofus want to hide.
But the trick to prevailing inlife is to face things head on.
Grace Redmond is a stellarexample of this.
She helps entrepreneurs andhigh performers break through self
imposed limitations to achieveextraordinary success.
Grace has faced some hugechallenges of her own and she's won
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despite four economicdownturns, the pandemic, caring for
dying parents while runningher business, navigating a family
addiction, and overcoming acancer diagnosis, she prevailed.
Grace was named one of the topfive women owned businesses in the
San Francisco bay area for 2024.
Her staffing agency has beenone of the most successful in that
area for 25 years.
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She's a best selling authorand host of the Real Talk with Grace
Redmond podcast.
Grace is a highly sought afterspeaker and mentor who teaches true
resilience.
She's coached thousands ofprofessionals through her staffing
firm.
We wanted to learn more, so weinvited her on our show.
Welcome Grace.
Thank you for being with me.
This is an honor.
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Oh, Shelly, thank you so muchfor having me.
It's my honor to be here with you.
I want to ask so many questions.
Your whole mindset is terrific.
Before we dig into resilienceand winning though, I wanted to talk
about some of the challengesyou've experienced and what got you
into helping others to succeed.
Yes, that's a great question.
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You know, I've experienced,you know, many challenges, you know,
over my lifetime.
And I think one of thegreatest challenges was the resistance
I got from the people in my life.
Their opinions, their criticism.
I would take that very personally.
And so for me, that was areally big challenge.
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To learn not to internalizeother people's opinions or their
criticism and to really learnto step into my own power and run
my own race.
And most of the time thosepeople, you know, were well meaning.
But again, when you're youngerand you internalize and you're looking
for approval from outside ofyourself, that posed just such a
(02:53):
great challenge for me until Iwas able to really step into my own
power and Run my own race.
You know, it does take us timeto trust ourselves.
I think that when we first getinto adulthood, we still have the
child mentality where we wantto look up to adults, people who
have more experience than we do.
And certainly there's merit inthat because other people have been
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there, done that.
But sometimes we sellourselves short.
Yes, I think we sell our self short.
Often.
Oftentimes.
I think so many of us havesuch incredible talent, yet we don't
see it and we don't believe itbecause that voice inside our head
is telling us otherwise.
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Oh, gosh.
Believe that voice.
And it's.
That voice is a liar.
It's wrong.
Oh, man, is it ever.
But sometimes it can be so loud.
I've heard that voice way toomany times.
And even when I've said, stoptalking to me, it's still there.
But you have to learn to justrise above it.
And certainly you've had somany obstacles, but you kept going.
(04:01):
Yes.
And, you know, as I mentionedto you earlier, when I look back
now, I was like, oh, my gosh,that was.
Those were tough times.
However, when I'm goingthrough a challenge, I know it's
tough, but I don't allowmyself to focus on that because then
I'll go down the rabbit hole.
So I really just focus on thesolutions and getting through it.
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And then once I look back, I'mlike, holy cow.
I don't know how I did that,but I did.
And those adversities havereally strengthened my resilience
muscles.
And so now when I'm faced witha challenge, I really don't feel
it as intensely as I wouldhave in the past because I've really
cultivated my resilience.
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And I recognize that ouradversity is.
Are really.
Adversities are reallyopportunities in disguise.
I like that.
It's true.
It really is.
You can make lemonade out of lemons.
I think adversity doesgalvanize us.
It makes us stronger.
What is the song?
What doesn't kill me makes me stronger.
(05:05):
Yes.
Like, if you made it this far,you know, the next, you know, I'm
sure I'll have 25 plus yearson this earth left.
On this earth.
They're going to be a piece of cake.
Right?
You've already been there,done that.
It's like, yeah, right.
You know, we've been through a pandemic.
We've been through someinteresting times in our generation.
Oh, some really weird stuff.
(05:26):
It's like the pandemic waslike something some dystopian Novel.
It was like, what is going on here?
Right.
That, that we went throughthat and, you know, it was challenging.
And so many things, so manypositive things came out of it as
well.
Oh, yes.
Now you started a staffing agency.
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How did that all evolve 20years ago?
Yeah, so it's been 25 yearsthat I started the staffing firm
and nine years that I startedthe coaching side of the business.
So I leaned into staffingbecause I was at a nightclub and
I overheard these two kidstalking about how one of their sisters
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just, you know, received thislarge paycheck for finding a job
for someone.
And for me, being independentand being financially independent
was, was a big thing for me.
And so I just started applyingfor different staffing positions
in different staffing agenciesbecause I wanted to be financially
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independent.
I didn't want to have todepend on any.
Well, I ended up, you know,getting a physician.
They trained me incredibly well.
And then I ended up, you know,starting my own firm.
And the reason I wanted tostart, start my own firm wasn't just
to be financially independent,but at that time I had already been
married.
I wanted to have theflexibility to raise my family and
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also contribute to my familyand not have, you know, a cap on
my time or income.
So you were very innovative.
You were always looking for opportunities.
Were you always that way, evenas a child?
That's a great question.
I think so.
I.
Yes, I was, because I used toget up really early on Sunday mornings
when I was 9 years old anddeliver the Sunday paper.
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And I had my first job atBurger King when I was 13 and I made
it to shift leader when I was 15.
Wow, that was a fun job.
Really fun job.
Well, not to mention goodstuff to eat, you know.
Right.
And so, yes, I remember onetime someone told me, man, you do
not let the grass grow underyour feet.
And that's true.
I'm constantly looking for newways to do things.
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And something for me that'sjust really part of my nature on
a day to day, on a day to daybasis is service.
And, you know, when I get inthese groups and they talk about
service, for me, that's just innate.
90% of my day is spent in service.
And I think that service hasreally, you know, helped me learn
(08:02):
to be innovative, if thatmakes sense.
Yes.
And I think that that's whatlife is about.
I think people kind of getstuck and innovation is really what
gets us through.
If you get stuck, you feellike that there's no way out and
you need to be able to openthat door.
And if you can't open thedoor, open the window, you know?
(08:24):
Yes, yes.
And I get it, you know,there's times that I feel stuck.
And in those times, what I'velearned to do is, you know, take
a step back, get in a quiet place.
I mean, if you want to call itmeditation or prayer or just silence.
And then I begin journaling.
And so it's interesting whathappens once you get into a quiet
(08:45):
place and you put the pen to paper.
I gain awarenesses that helpme move out of that feeling of stuckness.
And I'm no longer stuck.
Your website says selfdevelopment is all about progress,
not perfection.
I really like that.
Yes.
(09:06):
You also have dare to achieve.
I like that too.
And that really does seem tobe something that you've always followed.
I see you were fascinated withself development and success for
many years.
And some of your influencershave been Tony Robbins, Esther Hicks,
Wayne Dyer, and Napoleon Hill.
I remember reading one ofWayne's books when I was in high
(09:26):
school.
This is actually kind of afunny story.
I read his, you're erroneous zones.
And it wasn't until a highschool reunion I would read this
book in government class and Ihad my textbook open.
But I was reading this bookand I remember government was really
kind of boring.
So I'm reading this book andI'd answer the teacher's questions
when he'd asked me things.
(09:47):
But I guess the boys werereally, really interested, the guys
in class as to this book I was reading.
And I guess one day, as I wastold at the class reunion, I got
up to go to the ladies roomand they went rushing over to see
what book I was reading andthey were really disappointed because
they thought it was yourerogenous zones.
(10:07):
I love that.
That's so fun.
So you've always surroundedyourself with things you were learning
with people who had sometremendous positive influence.
Yes, I mean, since I was 15years old, like I, you know, stated
on my website, which made methe go to person in all of my circles
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and communities.
And so I've really, althoughI've only been coach certified the
last nine years, I've beencoaching the majority of my life,
especially in business.
And it just came so naturallyto me because I loved learning about
the human condition and how wecan get better.
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And I love how regardless ofour circumstances, we can do, be
or have whatever we want.
Now, of course, it may be morechallenging if, you know, we live
in the United States, we havefreedom and we, you know, we have.
It may not be as challengingas someone who may not have the freedoms
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we do.
However, I've read andconnected with people who've had
extraordinary circumstances.
You'd think that they'd nevermake it.
And they rise into incredible,amazing creating it.
To create incredible, amazing lives.
It takes perseverance.
Yes, it does.
(11:34):
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Welcome back to Women Roadwarriors with Shelly Johnson and
Kathy Tucaro.
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Grace Redmond says one of thegreatest challenges she faced head
on was the resistance frompeople that she had in her life.
Their criticism, theirjudgment calls.
(13:44):
She had to learn not tointernalize other people's opinions
and to step into her own powerand run her own race.
She focuses on the solutionsand how to get through life effectively.
That strengthened herresilience Muscles Grace is a best
selling author and host of theReal Talk with Grace Redmond podcast.
She was named one of the topfive women owned businesses in the
(14:06):
San Francisco bay area for 2024.
Grace is a highly sought afterspeaker and mentor who teaches true
resilience.
She's been sharing herinsights with us.
Grace, so what are yourbiggest philosophies and what do
you teach people?
Obviously, self development ishuge to you and daring to Achie,
what are some of the biggestthings that you guide your clients
(14:28):
on?
That's a great question.
I do believe that our mindsetis key.
I do believe 90% of it, if notmore, is mindset.
And I know it's challengingbecause the way that our mind is
created to keep us safe is tofocus on the negative things in life
or within our environment as away to keep us safe, you know, but
(14:50):
we're not living in cavemandays anymore and to recognize that,
you know, 99% of the time weare safe.
We don't have to operate fromthe negativity bias.
We don't have to focus on the negative.
Once we understand that and wecan really make that shift of recognizing
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what is working, we can rewireour brain and, and that's what I
teach, that our mindset is everything.
And also the life that we,we're constantly creating our life
based on our belief system.
And so that's where we start.
Like, what are the stories?
Where, what's, where are you?
Where do you want to be andwhat are the stories that you're
telling yourself?
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And that's where we can beginto close the gap and get you from
where you are to where youwant to be.
Because there's a beliefsystem there that's created the life
that you're living.
And for like, for me, one ofthe beliefs I had was like, I had
to really work hard to earnand deserve success.
So that was a belief thatbenefited me.
(15:55):
It helped me become successfuluntil it no longer was benefiting
me.
When I was burning out.
Did you have a lot ofchampions along the way or did you
have a lot of naysayers thatare like, yeah, you're not going
to do that?
Both.
Well, I mean, I tell the storyand I love telling this story.
When I was 19 years old, Istarted going to therapy, you know,
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in secret.
Because at that time, if youwent to therapy, you know, it was
just taboo.
And nine years ago when Istarted coaching, I reached out to
my therapist.
I had seen her on and off for25 years, just to say, you know,
this is what I'm doing.
I'm really excited about it.
And she said, you know, I'm sosorry, and I don't want to offend
you, but when I met you whenyou were 19 years old, I thought
(16:37):
that there was no hope for you.
And offended.
I'm not offended at all.
I actually feel amazing.
And this just really speaks tothe human, you know, condition that
we can do, be, have whateverwe put our minds to.
Absolutely.
I think some people get stuckin the negativity.
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It's easy to do.
You go out on social media,negativity is easy.
Everywhere sells.
Because, remember, I mean,there's something called the negativity
bias, where our mind is goingto focus on the negative, and that's
what keeps you coming back,and that's what helps them, you know,
get the followers, make the money.
That's why we watch the news.
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Oh, yeah.
And with the news, if itbleeds, it leads, you know?
Exactly.
There you go.
Yeah.
Because I was a journalist inmy previous life, and unfortunately,
they wanted to go with thespectacular a lot of times, because
that's what we will.
That's what we want to.
That's where our brain isgoing to, you know, come back to.
Mm.
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Is it a morbid curiosity thatmakes us do that?
You think that's a great question.
It could be cur.
Yes, I believe it's curiosity.
And it's also somehow it givesus a dopamine hit.
Okay.
And also, I've seen people whoare Debbie Downers, basically, they're
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super negative.
They get addicted to the best stuff.
For sure, because there's,there's a dopamine, you know, hit
that comes with it.
And I've experienced it, youknow, when I started to do my deep
work, because I was, There wasa time that I was in victim mentality,
that I was in dysfunctionalrelationships, and, And I didn't
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know any better.
I just thought that was theway you live life.
That was normal.
And then when I started doingthe deep work and I realized, like,
okay, this is not normal.
This is toxic.
And I started to setboundaries and move myself out of
those situations.
I felt a sense of peace that Ithought was depression.
Later on, I realized, like, itwasn't depression, it was peace.
(18:45):
And it felt weird to mebecause I, I, I wasn't getting the
dopamine hits.
Like, I kept wanting to goback to the drama because it made
me feel alive.
And then I'd sit, like I said,and start journaling, and I'm like,
oh, my gosh, this is not depression.
Like, this is peace.
And a part of me is missingthe drama, but I don't want that.
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But I had an awareness aroundit, and I'm like, okay, that's nuts.
Well, it's a matter of taking control.
And when you think about it,when we're children, we don't live
with drama.
We have our imaginations.
We are curious.
We're growing.
Everything is new.
Yes.
I love that.
And that's the way I choose tolive my life at this point.
(19:31):
And if I'm going to ruminateon something, why not ruminate and
use my imagination to ruminateon what I want next, what I want
for my family, what I want formy community.
Our imagination is very powerful.
It is.
And we can turn ourimagination into reality.
Absolutely.
That's what separates us fromthe animals.
You know, I'm sure that theyhave their thoughts, but we are creative.
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Human beings are always tryingto figure out how to do something
better.
They innovate.
They want to do somethingthat's going to make a difference.
That's the way we're wired.
Absolutely.
Now, I see that you talk aboutstrategies for turning adversity
into triumph.
Did you want to touch on someof those?
(20:15):
Sure.
And so one of the strategiesis, you know, turning adversity into
triumph.
I was thinking about thisyesterday, and there was a moment,
you know, my mom was only 50years old when she passed away 22
years ago.
And I remember sitting by herbedside, you know, nine months pregnant,
(20:37):
about to give birth,administering, you know, the morphine.
Talk about adversity.
And it just felt like just a.
Such a terrible, terrible moment.
And when I, you know, stepyears later, when I stepped back
and I looked at that moment, Irealized that her, you know, passing
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helped me recognize how Ididn't want to move forward and how
I did want to move forward.
And it also, you know, turningthat adversity into a triumph.
I said, yes, there she was, 50years old, you know, transitioning
out of, you know, life, yetshe was surrounded by so many loved
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ones.
Our house was filled with ourrelatives and loved ones, and they're
just coming in to, you know,spend time with her.
And so when I step back, thetriumph in that was building resilience,
community.
We weren't alone.
She was an example of, youknow, for the women in her generation,
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like, an example of, okay, letme start taking care of myself, putting
myself first.
And I think that's where youhave to look at the adversities and
say, okay, what am I learningfrom this?
And that's how you triumph.
And I learned so much fromthat moment, as terrible as it was.
Yeah.
I think if we look deeplyenough, even in adversity, there's
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some positives, and these arelessons and we can take them and
we can grow.
And unfortunately, life isalways going to throw us something.
There's going to be acurveball one way or the other.
Absolutely.
And that's why I believe it'sso important for us to look at.
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Look at our adversities.
What was the triumph of this adversity?
Also, yes, we're going througha challenging time, but what is,
what is working?
Because what you do is youbuild your perseverance muscles,
your resilience muscles, andyou're preparing yourself because
there's always going to beadversity, there's going to be curveballs.
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And you know, like I mentionedearlier, I handle adversity now much
different.
It doesn't take me out whereit used to take me out before.
You know, now I'm like, okay,well, let's step back.
What can be a solution?
Where can we reach out for support?
What do I need to do?
And sometimes I don't need todo anything.
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I just need to go and mayberest, lay down, not do anything so
I can get out of my fight orflight response, fall into my parasympathetic
response.
And that's where the solutionsbegin to show themselves.
So you have to be an activethinker, don't you, and be open to
change.
Absolutely.
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And I love the word you use, curiosity.
I'm constantly curious, youknow, if.
If I'm faced with theobstacle, I'm like, okay, I'm curious.
Why, why is this happening forme right now?
What am I meant to learn?
And sometimes it's just acontrast to learn of.
Okay, that doesn't work for me.
Great.
Now I know that doesn't work.
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Let's move on.
And a lot of people don't do that.
They get what entrenched inall the minutia.
I do not do minutiae very well.
I just move on.
Oh, yeah, me too.
It's like, oh, really?
And of course, especially whenyou're in business, there's a lot
of minutiae every day.
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And you know, and again, I.
Not that I bypass things like,I'll be okay.
You know what?
That did not work.
That annoyed me.
That upset me.
Like, I.
I feel what I need to feel.
I don't sweep my feelingsunder the rug, especially if I'm
feeling it in my body, Idefinitely honor it.
I just don't stay there too long.
That's a good philosophybecause you stagnate if you stay
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in one place anytime.
But in, especially insomething like that, you're going
to stagnate.
And nothing good comes from stagnation.
I mean, just look at my fridge.
You know, and, you know, there's.
There's so many areas of lifethat we're working on at the same
time.
So, you know, sometimes there,there can be stagnation.
(24:56):
So, you know, there could be aseason for this, for this or this.
But I've learned that as I'mfocused on one area of life, even
the other, even though I feellike the other area is stagnant,
there comes a point where theyall just start expanding together.
Like, if I'm focusing on mymental expanding, you know, emotionally
and mentally, then I want, Ifeel like really being in exercising,
(25:20):
or if I'm exercising, then Ireally feel like focusing on my mental
health.
If I'm, you know, doing myspiritual work, then I really feel
like doing the emotional work.
So although at times I feltstagnant in different areas, once
I start putting the work inthe other pieces, it's like I see
like spinning plates, they allstart spinning together in rhythm.
(25:44):
Stay tuned for more of WomenRoad warriors coming up.
Dean Michael, the tax doctor here.
I have one question for you.
Do you want to stop worryingabout the irs?
If the answer is yes, thenlook no further.
I've been around for years.
I've helped countless peopleacross the country, and my success
rate speaks for itself.
(26:06):
So now you know where to find.
Find good, honest help withyour tax problems.
What are you waiting for?
If you owe more than $10,000to the IRS or haven't filed in years,
call me now at 888-557-4020 orgo to mytaxhelpmd.com for a free
consultation and get your life back.
Industry movement TruckingMoves America Forward is telling
(26:26):
the story of the industry.
Our safety champions, thewomen of trucking, independent contractors,
the next generation oftruckers, and more.
Help us promote the best ofour industry.
Share your story and what youlove about trucking.
Share images of a momentyou're proud of and join us on social
media.
Learn more@truckingmovesamerica.com.
(26:53):
Welcome back to Women Roadwarriors with Shelly Johnson and
Kathy Takara.
Grace Redmond is an innovator.
She's constantly looking fornew ways to do things.
She's committed to servingothers that's helped her innovation.
Her website says selfdevelopment is all about progress,
(27:14):
not perfection.
That's so true in life.
Baby steps guide us to ourultimate goals.
We also don't have to live inthe negativity bias either.
We don't have to focus on the negative.
When we make that shift onwhat's working, we can rewire our
brain.
Our mindset is everything.
We're constantly creating ourlives based on our belief systems.
(27:38):
What are the stories you tellyourself and what beliefs benefit
you?
Your belief system creates thelife you're living.
It's all about building resilience.
This is how Grace lives andwhat she's been sharing with us.
She's had her share ofchallenges, but has always worked
toward progress.
Grace was named one of the topfive women owned businesses in the
(27:58):
San Francisco bay area for 2024.
Her staffing agency has beenone of the most successful in that
area for 25 years.
She's a best selling authorand host of the Real Talk with Grace
Redmond podcast.
Grace is a highly sought afterspeaker and mentor who teaches true
resilience.
Grace, what would you say arethe biggest obstacles that women
(28:19):
in business have?
Obviously, there's stumbling blocks.
There are things that you haveto deal with day to day.
But do you think what are someof the biggest obstacles?
And are some of these self imposed?
Yes, some of them are self imposed.
I, I'm just going to be straightforward.
I believe some of the biggestobstacles is we don't uplift each
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other enough and yeah, wedon't uplift each other enough and
celebrate each other enough.
I was, I went to an event theother day and you know, I heard a
little cattiness behind meand, and that's where I think the
challenge is like just really uplifting.
There's enough room for all ofus to succeed and it doesn't have
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to be a competition.
Women have been stereotyped asdoing that.
And I've often wondered.
Guys for so many years werealways involved with team sports.
They learned to think like a team.
Do you think that's been partof the obstacle where little girls
are raised to be morecompetitive with each other just
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based on things that say, ohlook, she's so pretty, talking about
somebody else, oh, she's gotsuch a pretty dress.
Or it's the rivalry, I'm notsure, but it's a, you know, that's
what came up, considering Ioverheard those things, you know,
over the last few days.
And I think that's what weneed to do.
And maybe some of it is selfimposed, just really looking within
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ourselves, uplifting ourselves.
So then in turn we can uplift others.
There's incredible women out there.
And I'm not, you know,stereotyping, it's just, I find,
you know, just based on myexperience this last week, what I
experienced, overheard is wecould definitely uplift each other
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more.
I totally agree.
There's more than enough roomat the table for all of us.
And if we, if we uplift eachother, we're all going to make progress.
You know, the networking, it'sso important.
Absolutely.
It's very important and it'snecessary and we can, we help each
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other so much and it just, youknow, it takes, it doesn't take much
to get things off equilibrium,if I'm making sense.
Yeah, absolutely.
On your website you say dareto achieve.
Do you think that that's oneof the things people are afraid to
do?
They're afraid to achieve?
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Because I've heard of somepeople saying, you know, you, you
get in your own way, theyundermine a person, undermines his
or her success, for sure.
I mean, the only thingstopping you from succeeding is yourself
and the stories that you'retelling yourself.
And so, you know, dare toachieve can mean anything.
Dare to achieve again, whatdoes success mean to you?
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And dare to achieve because Ithink most of us are more afraid
to step into our magnificencethan, you know, that's what we're
afraid of, stepping into our magnificence.
Is it because we don't thinkof ourselves as magnificent?
That could be part of it.
And also, what makes mebelieve I'm so great?
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Who am I to believe that I'mso great?
Who am I to think that I'm so great?
We all have that magic.
We all have that talent.
Yeah, well, of course, we'regiven the message as we're growing
up.
You know, you need to be humble.
You don't want to be arrogant.
Right.
But you have to haveconfidence and you have to believe
in yourself.
Absolutely.
That's key because we arecreated in the image of, you know,
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our creator.
We all have that magic and weall have different talents and we
all have a story.
And that's why I believe thework is so important.
Because once we can like lookwithin and really cultivate that
self awareness, we startoperating more from, you know, spirit
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as opposed to ego.
Ego can be very destructive.
It can.
And we have to learn how towork with it at the same time.
Okay, all right, that's my ego.
I appreciate you.
You're trying to help me outhere, like, how can we move forward
where I don't feel so activated?
But it sure can come up ifsomebody says something insulting,
for sure.
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Demeaning.
Which, unfortunately, we runinto people who do that, and you
have to remind yourself, atleast I do.
Oh, okay.
This person's jealous orsomething like that.
Totally.
And you know what?
I wish I learned this yearsand years earlier.
One of the most powerfulthings I learned when I went back
to get certified, you know,nine years ago, was the most empowered
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person in the room is theperson who takes nothing personal.
And I was like, what?
Wow.
But I take everything so personal.
Me too.
It's easy to do.
It really, really is.
And so then I learned, andthat's something that I teach, you
know, my clients, is how canwe get neutral, curious and neutral,
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step back.
And that has been the biggestgame changer for me in my life.
Biggest game changer.
I take very little personal.
If I take it personal, I stepback, I get curious.
I'm like, okay, what is itwithin me?
What's going on with me now?
I do hold other peopleaccountable if, you know, I need
to.
But I always come back tomyself and I say, what is it within
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me?
Why am I taking this personal?
How do you flip that switch?
Because it's easy to just getseriously bruised, wounded.
Words are powerful, for sure.
And when you realize thatsomebody is being adversarial or
combative or nasty, you'revery vulnerable.
And everything you've workedfor, especially when you're in business,
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that's really.
That's like insultingsomebody's child.
Yes.
And I play this as a game, so once.
And sometimes my friends arelike, aren't you bothered?
I'm like, no, not really.
I get it, you know, and sowhat I do is someone says something,
and then I internalize it.
I take it personal.
Or I feel like, you know, whenyou feel it in your chest or you
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feel it in your body.
Mm.
So I'm like, okay, obviously,I just took that personal.
I'm not neutral.
I step back and say, okay.
I get curious.
What could be going on with them?
Why did they throw that shadeat me?
So I get curious about whatcould be going on with that.
I'm like, okay, their dogdied, so they're just not in a good
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place, and they just projectedon me.
So it's really nothing to dowith me.
It's.
It's, you know, theirinsecurity, their fear, their judgment.
But then I also have to betransparent with myself, like, okay,
Was I showing up salty?
Was I in my ego?
And so I play that in my headand it, I get curious instead of
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upset and then right away Iflip it and it goes away.
Like, oh, I'm like, oh, yeah,consider the source.
I know that person's goingthrough that.
They're just insecure, feelingsome type of way and it just falls
off me.
But I play that again as a game.
But I've been doing this foralmost 10 years.
It took me time to really ma.
You know, I mean, I don'tthink we'll ever master it, but it's
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rare that I take things personal.
I feel it in my gut.
Yes.
I don't internalize it, whichis good.
Because when you startinternalizing all of those things,
that's so self defeating.
And you're basically giving into someone who's negative, perhaps
jealous, perhaps just a bully,for sure.
And you know, actually to betransparent, there was that situation
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like that this year thatreally, it did affect me.
And so I just, I really had towork on it.
But I also knew that I wasready to elevate into, you know,
a different level in my lifein business.
And these lessons were comingback around for me to learn them
again because I feel likeevery time we're going to go to another
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level in our life or business,some of the same lessons circle back
around.
And how are we going to handlethose this time?
It's logical thinking that's apart of our brain that is hard to
grasp sometimes.
We're emotional beings.
Yes, we are.
And certainly women, whenthey're in business, if they're raising
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a family, all of that, theyhave a lot of challenges and it's
a balancing act.
It is.
Women are not to.
Men are amazing too, but womenare really incredibly amazing.
And they can.
You're right.
It's a balancing act.
They handle so many, they wearso many different hats at all times.
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I think we use more parts ofour brain.
We just have to.
Right?
I mean, we're mothers andsisters and daughters and wives and
entrepreneurs and employeesand CEOs and like we wear so many
different hats at the same time.
Yeah, that's the trick.
At the same time.
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So do you have some pointersfor women in business?
I wanted to talk about yourbook as well, but what kind of pointers
do you have for women inbusiness or even who are climbing
that corporate ladder?
Sure.
So what I would, you know, forsomeone considering going to business
or who's already in business,I would say you, you have the Choice
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to create your business in away that works for you.
And I know right now there areso many different informational,
you know, webinars andseminars out there that teach you
how to do business.
And all of them are great andthere's great points in all of them.
You get to take the piecesthat work for you and create the
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business for a way that worksfor you.
Take what works and leave the rest.
It doesn't have to be this wayor that way.
You get to create yourbusiness in any way that works for
you is one tip.
And the other tip is you needto have conviction in yourself and
believe in yourself.
Yes, the imposter syndrome isgoing to kick in.
Yes, we're going to have theobstacles, we're going to have the
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naysayers, we are going todeal with all of those things and
just believe in yourself andhave conviction.
Because if you have that dreamin your heart, it was put there for
a reason and believe in you, period.
It's the fire in your belly, right?
Yes.
And too many people let thatgo out.
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I think we all have it as achild, but we lose it.
We lose it and it's.
Why do you think we lose it?
What's your perspective?
I think it's other people.
I think it's, well, theadversity, the obstacles, the messages
we hear, not having thechampions in our lives.
We do need that.
You can feel so very much alone.
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And other people, especiallyif they don't want to change, they're
going to dog on you and say,that's not going to work.
What are you doing that for?
You know, that kind of stuff,internalizing it slowly starts to
douse the fire inside of us.
You're right.
And that's why it's soimportant to believe in ourselves.
And you reminded me, when Istarted my business, they told me
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because it was male dominated,75% turnover rate, that I wouldn't
make it.
And here I am 25 years later.
When I got married, they saidit's not going to last.
We've been together for 26 years.
When I had my health crisis,they said that I would never be the
same again.
And I love how you mentionedthat because if we listen to those
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outside of us, which mosttimes they mean well, they're just,
you know, they want the bestfor us, but we know what's best for
us.
Well, we're all individualsand other people can't think for
others.
They don't know.
And yes, a lot of people mean well.
And then there are Those who don't.
And I think it's a culminationof all of that.
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When we get into adulthood andeven growing up, the messages we're
given, the marginalization,the pigeonholing, the things that
go on.
I've encountered it, you know,when I have, too.
When I was first inbroadcasting, there was a boss I
had that didn't feel womenshould be in front of a microphone.
Well, look at you now.
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I know.
Well, thank you.
But I was always kind of the kid.
And then even as an adult,it's like, I'll show you.
Really?
Exactly.
There you go.
That's you.
I just love what you just said.
And I'll show you.
Like, tell me I can't do it.
And I'll show you now yourbook, Can I Live?
Dare to Go from Effed up to Fabulous?
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Yes.
I love that title.
Thank you.
What is that about?
I imagine that that's a realpage turner.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And so what it's about is justagain, you know, when I was 19 and
started therapy, she thoughtthere was going to be no hope for
me.
And I really have created justan incredible life that I do love.
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And of course, nothing'sperfect, but I just, I do, I have.
I love my life.
I have a great life,incredible businesses.
And I said, well, how did Iget here?
You know, how did I breakthose cycles?
And so in the book, I talkabout the different steps and principles
that I used and took to get towhere I am today.
(41:37):
And you can really.
You don't have to read it frombeginning to end.
You can pick any chapter andyou could, you know, read it from
back to forward, forward toback, because it's not something
you have to read from front to end.
You can just.
Some of people have reachedout and said, you know, I just leave
it next to my bedside, and inthe morning I'll just pick up a page
(41:57):
and that page will get methrough the day.
And I just.
I had a.
I had a.
It was.
It was great and fun writingit, too.
That speaks volumes.
People are using that as likea daily devotional of motivation.
Yes.
And so that was.
I was like, wow, I wasn'texpecting that.
And then also, you know, mytarget audience audience was obviously
was women.
And then I was so surprisedwhen my male friends were reaching
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out to me, saying, hey, I readyour book.
And I'm like, you read my book?
Really?
And they're like, yeah, it was great.
I got a lot out of it.
I'm like, okay, so you justyou never know.
It just.
I wasn't expecting that.
So you.
So you never know.
And I think when you put yourheart into something and you just
show up from a place of loveand the heart, things just unfold
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naturally.
You're reaching out to so many people.
That speaks volumes.
That book is available onAmazon, am I correct?
Yes, it's available on Amazon.
So it's can I live dare to gofrom effed up to fabulous.
And people can also find it onyour website.
Your website'sdaretoachieve.com Am I correct?
Yes, that's correct.
I love the title.
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That's great.
Now, do you work with peopleremotely or do you speak in front
of large groups?
How does that work?
Both.
I definitely work with people remotely.
And if you're in my local areaand you're.
You're interested in seeing mein person, I also do in person and
I do workshops and alsospeaking engagement.
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So if there's something thatyou're interested in, we could definitely
talk about tailoring, youknow, workshop or a top that's specific
to your team or to your business.
I bet people leave yourseminars and your keynote speaking,
just dancing out of the room.
I imagine that people arereally motivated.
I love that because that's.
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Honestly, I think we are too serious.
And so I do love to justinfuse fun, playfulness, and I love
to dance into anything I do.
So I hope they do leave likethat when I'm, you know, done with
my keynotes.
I love your perspectives, Grace.
This is exactly what's needed today.
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Oh, Shelly, you're amazing.
Thank you.
You are, too.
I love to feature amazingpeople because this is going to reach
so many women.
And your website, again is daretoachieve.
Com.
Yes.
Excellent.
Well, I hope people reach outto you.
You're going to help a lot of ladies.
Thank you.
And you're amazing witheverything that you and Kathy do.
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And congratulations forwinning the People's Choice Award
for 2024.
And I really look forward tocontinuing to watch your journey
expand.
Well, thank you, Grace.
I really am honored that yousay that.
Thank you so much.
You're welcome.
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When adversity knocks, many ofus want to hide.
But the trick to prevailing inlife is to face things head on.
Grace Redmond is a stellarexample of this.
She helps entrepreneurs andhigh performers break through self
imposed limitations to achieveextraordinary success.
Grace has faced some hugechallenges of her own and she's won
(01:05):
despite four economicdownturns, the pandemic, caring for
dying parents while runningher business, navigating a family
addiction, and overcoming acancer diagnosis, she prevailed.
Grace was named one of the topfive women owned businesses in the
San Francisco bay area for 2024.
Her staffing agency has beenone of the most successful in that
area for 25 years.
(01:27):
She's a best selling authorand host of the Real Talk with Grace
Redmond podcast.
Grace is a highly sought afterspeaker and mentor who teaches true
resilience.
She's coached thousands ofprofessionals through her staffing
firm.
We wanted to learn more, so weinvited her on our show.
Welcome Grace.
Thank you for being with me.
This is an honor.
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Oh, Shelly, thank you so muchfor having me.
It's my honor to be here with you.
I want to ask so many questions.
Your whole mindset is terrific.
Before we dig into resilienceand winning though, I wanted to talk
about some of the challengesyou've experienced and what got you
into helping others to succeed.
Yes, that's a great question.
(02:09):
You know, I've experienced,you know, many challenges, you know,
over my lifetime.
And I think one of thegreatest challenges was the resistance
I got from the people in my life.
Their opinions, their criticism.
I would take that very personally.
And so for me, that was areally big challenge.
(02:31):
To learn not to internalizeother people's opinions or their
criticism and to really learnto step into my own power and run
my own race.
And most of the time thosepeople, you know, were well meaning.
But again, when you're youngerand you internalize and you're looking
for approval from outside ofyourself, that posed just such a
(02:53):
great challenge for me until Iwas able to really step into my own
power and Run my own race.
You know, it does take us timeto trust ourselves.
I think that when we first getinto adulthood, we still have the
child mentality where we wantto look up to adults, people who
have more experience than we do.
And certainly there's merit inthat because other people have been
(03:14):
there, done that.
But sometimes we sellourselves short.
Yes, I think we sell our self short.
Often.
Oftentimes.
I think so many of us havesuch incredible talent, yet we don't
see it and we don't believe itbecause that voice inside our head
is telling us otherwise.
(03:35):
Oh, gosh.
Believe that voice.
And it's.
That voice is a liar.
It's wrong.
Oh, man, is it ever.
But sometimes it can be so loud.
I've heard that voice way toomany times.
And even when I've said, stoptalking to me, it's still there.
But you have to learn to justrise above it.
And certainly you've had somany obstacles, but you kept going.
(04:01):
Yes.
And, you know, as I mentionedto you earlier, when I look back
now, I was like, oh, my gosh,that was.
Those were tough times.
However, when I'm goingthrough a challenge, I know it's
tough, but I don't allowmyself to focus on that because then
I'll go down the rabbit hole.
So I really just focus on thesolutions and getting through it.
(04:24):
And then once I look back, I'mlike, holy cow.
I don't know how I did that,but I did.
And those adversities havereally strengthened my resilience
muscles.
And so now when I'm faced witha challenge, I really don't feel
it as intensely as I wouldhave in the past because I've really
cultivated my resilience.
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And I recognize that ouradversity is.
Are really.
Adversities are reallyopportunities in disguise.
I like that.
It's true.
It really is.
You can make lemonade out of lemons.
I think adversity doesgalvanize us.
It makes us stronger.
What is the song?
What doesn't kill me makes me stronger.
(05:05):
Yes.
Like, if you made it this far,you know, the next, you know, I'm
sure I'll have 25 plus yearson this earth left.
On this earth.
They're going to be a piece of cake.
Right?
You've already been there,done that.
It's like, yeah, right.
You know, we've been through a pandemic.
We've been through someinteresting times in our generation.
Oh, some really weird stuff.
(05:26):
It's like the pandemic waslike something some dystopian Novel.
It was like, what is going on here?
Right.
That, that we went throughthat and, you know, it was challenging.
And so many things, so manypositive things came out of it as
well.
Oh, yes.
Now you started a staffing agency.
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How did that all evolve 20years ago?
Yeah, so it's been 25 yearsthat I started the staffing firm
and nine years that I startedthe coaching side of the business.
So I leaned into staffingbecause I was at a nightclub and
I overheard these two kidstalking about how one of their sisters
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just, you know, received thislarge paycheck for finding a job
for someone.
And for me, being independentand being financially independent
was, was a big thing for me.
And so I just started applyingfor different staffing positions
in different staffing agenciesbecause I wanted to be financially
(06:33):
independent.
I didn't want to have todepend on any.
Well, I ended up, you know,getting a physician.
They trained me incredibly well.
And then I ended up, you know,starting my own firm.
And the reason I wanted tostart, start my own firm wasn't just
to be financially independent,but at that time I had already been
married.
I wanted to have theflexibility to raise my family and
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also contribute to my familyand not have, you know, a cap on
my time or income.
So you were very innovative.
You were always looking for opportunities.
Were you always that way, evenas a child?
That's a great question.
I think so.
I.
Yes, I was, because I used toget up really early on Sunday mornings
when I was 9 years old anddeliver the Sunday paper.
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And I had my first job atBurger King when I was 13 and I made
it to shift leader when I was 15.
Wow, that was a fun job.
Really fun job.
Well, not to mention goodstuff to eat, you know.
Right.
And so, yes, I remember onetime someone told me, man, you do
not let the grass grow underyour feet.
And that's true.
I'm constantly looking for newways to do things.
(07:41):
And something for me that'sjust really part of my nature on
a day to day, on a day to daybasis is service.
And, you know, when I get inthese groups and they talk about
service, for me, that's just innate.
90% of my day is spent in service.
And I think that service hasreally, you know, helped me learn
(08:02):
to be innovative, if thatmakes sense.
Yes.
And I think that that's whatlife is about.
I think people kind of getstuck and innovation is really what
gets us through.
If you get stuck, you feellike that there's no way out and
you need to be able to openthat door.
And if you can't open thedoor, open the window, you know?
(08:24):
Yes, yes.
And I get it, you know,there's times that I feel stuck.
And in those times, what I'velearned to do is, you know, take
a step back, get in a quiet place.
I mean, if you want to call itmeditation or prayer or just silence.
And then I begin journaling.
And so it's interesting whathappens once you get into a quiet
(08:45):
place and you put the pen to paper.
I gain awarenesses that helpme move out of that feeling of stuckness.
And I'm no longer stuck.
Your website says selfdevelopment is all about progress,
not perfection.
I really like that.
Yes.
(09:06):
You also have dare to achieve.
I like that too.
And that really does seem tobe something that you've always followed.
I see you were fascinated withself development and success for
many years.
And some of your influencershave been Tony Robbins, Esther Hicks,
Wayne Dyer, and Napoleon Hill.
I remember reading one ofWayne's books when I was in high
(09:26):
school.
This is actually kind of afunny story.
I read his, you're erroneous zones.
And it wasn't until a highschool reunion I would read this
book in government class and Ihad my textbook open.
But I was reading this bookand I remember government was really
kind of boring.
So I'm reading this book andI'd answer the teacher's questions
when he'd asked me things.
(09:47):
But I guess the boys werereally, really interested, the guys
in class as to this book I was reading.
And I guess one day, as I wastold at the class reunion, I got
up to go to the ladies roomand they went rushing over to see
what book I was reading andthey were really disappointed because
they thought it was yourerogenous zones.
(10:07):
I love that.
That's so fun.
So you've always surroundedyourself with things you were learning
with people who had sometremendous positive influence.
Yes, I mean, since I was 15years old, like I, you know, stated
on my website, which made methe go to person in all of my circles
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and communities.
And so I've really, althoughI've only been coach certified the
last nine years, I've beencoaching the majority of my life,
especially in business.
And it just came so naturallyto me because I loved learning about
the human condition and how wecan get better.
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And I love how regardless ofour circumstances, we can do, be
or have whatever we want.
Now, of course, it may be morechallenging if, you know, we live
in the United States, we havefreedom and we, you know, we have.
It may not be as challengingas someone who may not have the freedoms
(11:12):
we do.
However, I've read andconnected with people who've had
extraordinary circumstances.
You'd think that they'd nevermake it.
And they rise into incredible,amazing creating it.
To create incredible, amazing lives.
It takes perseverance.
Yes, it does.
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Welcome back to Women Roadwarriors with Shelly Johnson and
Kathy Tucaro.
If you're enjoying thisinformative episode of Women Road
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Grace Redmond says one of thegreatest challenges she faced head
on was the resistance frompeople that she had in her life.
Their criticism, theirjudgment calls.
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She had to learn not tointernalize other people's opinions
and to step into her own powerand run her own race.
She focuses on the solutionsand how to get through life effectively.
That strengthened herresilience Muscles Grace is a best
selling author and host of theReal Talk with Grace Redmond podcast.
She was named one of the topfive women owned businesses in the
(14:06):
San Francisco bay area for 2024.
Grace is a highly sought afterspeaker and mentor who teaches true
resilience.
She's been sharing herinsights with us.
Grace, so what are yourbiggest philosophies and what do
you teach people?
Obviously, self development ishuge to you and daring to Achie,
what are some of the biggestthings that you guide your clients
(14:28):
on?
That's a great question.
I do believe that our mindsetis key.
I do believe 90% of it, if notmore, is mindset.
And I know it's challengingbecause the way that our mind is
created to keep us safe is tofocus on the negative things in life
or within our environment as away to keep us safe, you know, but
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we're not living in cavemandays anymore and to recognize that,
you know, 99% of the time weare safe.
We don't have to operate fromthe negativity bias.
We don't have to focus on the negative.
Once we understand that and wecan really make that shift of recognizing
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what is working, we can rewireour brain and, and that's what I
teach, that our mindset is everything.
And also the life that we,we're constantly creating our life
based on our belief system.
And so that's where we start.
Like, what are the stories?
Where, what's, where are you?
Where do you want to be andwhat are the stories that you're
telling yourself?
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And that's where we can beginto close the gap and get you from
where you are to where youwant to be.
Because there's a beliefsystem there that's created the life
that you're living.
And for like, for me, one ofthe beliefs I had was like, I had
to really work hard to earnand deserve success.
So that was a belief thatbenefited me.
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It helped me become successfuluntil it no longer was benefiting
me.
When I was burning out.
Did you have a lot ofchampions along the way or did you
have a lot of naysayers thatare like, yeah, you're not going
to do that?
Both.
Well, I mean, I tell the storyand I love telling this story.
When I was 19 years old, Istarted going to therapy, you know,
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in secret.
Because at that time, if youwent to therapy, you know, it was
just taboo.
And nine years ago when Istarted coaching, I reached out to
my therapist.
I had seen her on and off for25 years, just to say, you know,
this is what I'm doing.
I'm really excited about it.
And she said, you know, I'm sosorry, and I don't want to offend
you, but when I met you whenyou were 19 years old, I thought
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that there was no hope for you.
And offended.
I'm not offended at all.
I actually feel amazing.
And this just really speaks tothe human, you know, condition that
we can do, be, have whateverwe put our minds to.
Absolutely.
I think some people get stuckin the negativity.
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It's easy to do.
You go out on social media,negativity is easy.
Everywhere sells.
Because, remember, I mean,there's something called the negativity
bias, where our mind is goingto focus on the negative, and that's
what keeps you coming back,and that's what helps them, you know,
get the followers, make the money.
That's why we watch the news.
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Oh, yeah.
And with the news, if itbleeds, it leads, you know?
Exactly.
There you go.
Yeah.
Because I was a journalist inmy previous life, and unfortunately,
they wanted to go with thespectacular a lot of times, because
that's what we will.
That's what we want to.
That's where our brain isgoing to, you know, come back to.
Mm.
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Is it a morbid curiosity thatmakes us do that?
You think that's a great question.
It could be cur.
Yes, I believe it's curiosity.
And it's also somehow it givesus a dopamine hit.
Okay.
And also, I've seen people whoare Debbie Downers, basically, they're
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super negative.
They get addicted to the best stuff.
For sure, because there's,there's a dopamine, you know, hit
that comes with it.
And I've experienced it, youknow, when I started to do my deep
work, because I was, There wasa time that I was in victim mentality,
that I was in dysfunctionalrelationships, and, And I didn't
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know any better.
I just thought that was theway you live life.
That was normal.
And then when I started doingthe deep work and I realized, like,
okay, this is not normal.
This is toxic.
And I started to setboundaries and move myself out of
those situations.
I felt a sense of peace that Ithought was depression.
Later on, I realized, like, itwasn't depression, it was peace.
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And it felt weird to mebecause I, I, I wasn't getting the
dopamine hits.
Like, I kept wanting to goback to the drama because it made
me feel alive.
And then I'd sit, like I said,and start journaling, and I'm like,
oh, my gosh, this is not depression.
Like, this is peace.
And a part of me is missingthe drama, but I don't want that.
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But I had an awareness aroundit, and I'm like, okay, that's nuts.
Well, it's a matter of taking control.
And when you think about it,when we're children, we don't live
with drama.
We have our imaginations.
We are curious.
We're growing.
Everything is new.
Yes.
I love that.
And that's the way I choose tolive my life at this point.
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And if I'm going to ruminateon something, why not ruminate and
use my imagination to ruminateon what I want next, what I want
for my family, what I want formy community.
Our imagination is very powerful.
It is.
And we can turn ourimagination into reality.
Absolutely.
That's what separates us fromthe animals.
You know, I'm sure that theyhave their thoughts, but we are creative.
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Human beings are always tryingto figure out how to do something
better.
They innovate.
They want to do somethingthat's going to make a difference.
That's the way we're wired.
Absolutely.
Now, I see that you talk aboutstrategies for turning adversity
into triumph.
Did you want to touch on someof those?
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Sure.
And so one of the strategiesis, you know, turning adversity into
triumph.
I was thinking about thisyesterday, and there was a moment,
you know, my mom was only 50years old when she passed away 22
years ago.
And I remember sitting by herbedside, you know, nine months pregnant,
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about to give birth,administering, you know, the morphine.
Talk about adversity.
And it just felt like just a.
Such a terrible, terrible moment.
And when I, you know, stepyears later, when I stepped back
and I looked at that moment, Irealized that her, you know, passing
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helped me recognize how Ididn't want to move forward and how
I did want to move forward.
And it also, you know, turningthat adversity into a triumph.
I said, yes, there she was, 50years old, you know, transitioning
out of, you know, life, yetshe was surrounded by so many loved
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ones.
Our house was filled with ourrelatives and loved ones, and they're
just coming in to, you know,spend time with her.
And so when I step back, thetriumph in that was building resilience,
community.
We weren't alone.
She was an example of, youknow, for the women in her generation,
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like, an example of, okay, letme start taking care of myself, putting
myself first.
And I think that's where youhave to look at the adversities and
say, okay, what am I learningfrom this?
And that's how you triumph.
And I learned so much fromthat moment, as terrible as it was.
Yeah.
I think if we look deeplyenough, even in adversity, there's
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some positives, and these arelessons and we can take them and
we can grow.
And unfortunately, life isalways going to throw us something.
There's going to be acurveball one way or the other.
Absolutely.
And that's why I believe it'sso important for us to look at.
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Look at our adversities.
What was the triumph of this adversity?
Also, yes, we're going througha challenging time, but what is,
what is working?
Because what you do is youbuild your perseverance muscles,
your resilience muscles, andyou're preparing yourself because
there's always going to beadversity, there's going to be curveballs.
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And you know, like I mentionedearlier, I handle adversity now much
different.
It doesn't take me out whereit used to take me out before.
You know, now I'm like, okay,well, let's step back.
What can be a solution?
Where can we reach out for support?
What do I need to do?
And sometimes I don't need todo anything.
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I just need to go and mayberest, lay down, not do anything so
I can get out of my fight orflight response, fall into my parasympathetic
response.
And that's where the solutionsbegin to show themselves.
So you have to be an activethinker, don't you, and be open to
change.
Absolutely.
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And I love the word you use, curiosity.
I'm constantly curious, youknow, if.
If I'm faced with theobstacle, I'm like, okay, I'm curious.
Why, why is this happening forme right now?
What am I meant to learn?
And sometimes it's just acontrast to learn of.
Okay, that doesn't work for me.
Great.
Now I know that doesn't work.
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Let's move on.
And a lot of people don't do that.
They get what entrenched inall the minutia.
I do not do minutiae very well.
I just move on.
Oh, yeah, me too.
It's like, oh, really?
And of course, especially whenyou're in business, there's a lot
of minutiae every day.
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And you know, and again, I.
Not that I bypass things like,I'll be okay.
You know what?
That did not work.
That annoyed me.
That upset me.
Like, I.
I feel what I need to feel.
I don't sweep my feelingsunder the rug, especially if I'm
feeling it in my body, Idefinitely honor it.
I just don't stay there too long.
That's a good philosophybecause you stagnate if you stay
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in one place anytime.
But in, especially insomething like that, you're going
to stagnate.
And nothing good comes from stagnation.
I mean, just look at my fridge.
You know, and, you know, there's.
There's so many areas of lifethat we're working on at the same
time.
So, you know, sometimes there,there can be stagnation.
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So, you know, there could be aseason for this, for this or this.
But I've learned that as I'mfocused on one area of life, even
the other, even though I feellike the other area is stagnant,
there comes a point where theyall just start expanding together.
Like, if I'm focusing on mymental expanding, you know, emotionally
and mentally, then I want, Ifeel like really being in exercising,
(25:20):
or if I'm exercising, then Ireally feel like focusing on my mental
health.
If I'm, you know, doing myspiritual work, then I really feel
like doing the emotional work.
So although at times I feltstagnant in different areas, once
I start putting the work inthe other pieces, it's like I see
like spinning plates, they allstart spinning together in rhythm.
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Welcome back to Women Roadwarriors with Shelly Johnson and
Kathy Takara.
Grace Redmond is an innovator.
She's constantly looking fornew ways to do things.
She's committed to servingothers that's helped her innovation.
Her website says selfdevelopment is all about progress,
(27:14):
not perfection.
That's so true in life.
Baby steps guide us to ourultimate goals.
We also don't have to live inthe negativity bias either.
We don't have to focus on the negative.
When we make that shift onwhat's working, we can rewire our
brain.
Our mindset is everything.
We're constantly creating ourlives based on our belief systems.
(27:38):
What are the stories you tellyourself and what beliefs benefit
you?
Your belief system creates thelife you're living.
It's all about building resilience.
This is how Grace lives andwhat she's been sharing with us.
She's had her share ofchallenges, but has always worked
toward progress.
Grace was named one of the topfive women owned businesses in the
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San Francisco bay area for 2024.
Her staffing agency has beenone of the most successful in that
area for 25 years.
She's a best selling authorand host of the Real Talk with Grace
Redmond podcast.
Grace is a highly sought afterspeaker and mentor who teaches true
resilience.
Grace, what would you say arethe biggest obstacles that women
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in business have?
Obviously, there's stumbling blocks.
There are things that you haveto deal with day to day.
But do you think what are someof the biggest obstacles?
And are some of these self imposed?
Yes, some of them are self imposed.
I, I'm just going to be straightforward.
I believe some of the biggestobstacles is we don't uplift each
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other enough and yeah, wedon't uplift each other enough and
celebrate each other enough.
I was, I went to an event theother day and you know, I heard a
little cattiness behind meand, and that's where I think the
challenge is like just really uplifting.
There's enough room for all ofus to succeed and it doesn't have
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to be a competition.
Women have been stereotyped asdoing that.
And I've often wondered.
Guys for so many years werealways involved with team sports.
They learned to think like a team.
Do you think that's been partof the obstacle where little girls
are raised to be morecompetitive with each other just
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based on things that say, ohlook, she's so pretty, talking about
somebody else, oh, she's gotsuch a pretty dress.
Or it's the rivalry, I'm notsure, but it's a, you know, that's
what came up, considering Ioverheard those things, you know,
over the last few days.
And I think that's what weneed to do.
And maybe some of it is selfimposed, just really looking within
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ourselves, uplifting ourselves.
So then in turn we can uplift others.
There's incredible women out there.
And I'm not, you know,stereotyping, it's just, I find,
you know, just based on myexperience this last week, what I
experienced, overheard is wecould definitely uplift each other
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more.
I totally agree.
There's more than enough roomat the table for all of us.
And if we, if we uplift eachother, we're all going to make progress.
You know, the networking, it'sso important.
Absolutely.
It's very important and it'snecessary and we can, we help each
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other so much and it just, youknow, it takes, it doesn't take much
to get things off equilibrium,if I'm making sense.
Yeah, absolutely.
On your website you say dareto achieve.
Do you think that that's oneof the things people are afraid to
do?
They're afraid to achieve?
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Because I've heard of somepeople saying, you know, you, you
get in your own way, theyundermine a person, undermines his
or her success, for sure.
I mean, the only thingstopping you from succeeding is yourself
and the stories that you'retelling yourself.
And so, you know, dare toachieve can mean anything.
Dare to achieve again, whatdoes success mean to you?
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And dare to achieve because Ithink most of us are more afraid
to step into our magnificencethan, you know, that's what we're
afraid of, stepping into our magnificence.
Is it because we don't thinkof ourselves as magnificent?
That could be part of it.
And also, what makes mebelieve I'm so great?
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Who am I to believe that I'mso great?
Who am I to think that I'm so great?
We all have that magic.
We all have that talent.
Yeah, well, of course, we'regiven the message as we're growing
up.
You know, you need to be humble.
You don't want to be arrogant.
Right.
But you have to haveconfidence and you have to believe
in yourself.
Absolutely.
That's key because we arecreated in the image of, you know,
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our creator.
We all have that magic and weall have different talents and we
all have a story.
And that's why I believe thework is so important.
Because once we can like lookwithin and really cultivate that
self awareness, we startoperating more from, you know, spirit
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as opposed to ego.
Ego can be very destructive.
It can.
And we have to learn how towork with it at the same time.
Okay, all right, that's my ego.
I appreciate you.
You're trying to help me outhere, like, how can we move forward
where I don't feel so activated?
But it sure can come up ifsomebody says something insulting,
for sure.
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Demeaning.
Which, unfortunately, we runinto people who do that, and you
have to remind yourself, atleast I do.
Oh, okay.
This person's jealous orsomething like that.
Totally.
And you know what?
I wish I learned this yearsand years earlier.
One of the most powerfulthings I learned when I went back
to get certified, you know,nine years ago, was the most empowered
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person in the room is theperson who takes nothing personal.
And I was like, what?
Wow.
But I take everything so personal.
Me too.
It's easy to do.
It really, really is.
And so then I learned, andthat's something that I teach, you
know, my clients, is how canwe get neutral, curious and neutral,
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step back.
And that has been the biggestgame changer for me in my life.
Biggest game changer.
I take very little personal.
If I take it personal, I stepback, I get curious.
I'm like, okay, what is itwithin me?
What's going on with me now?
I do hold other peopleaccountable if, you know, I need
to.
But I always come back tomyself and I say, what is it within
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me?
Why am I taking this personal?
How do you flip that switch?
Because it's easy to just getseriously bruised, wounded.
Words are powerful, for sure.
And when you realize thatsomebody is being adversarial or
combative or nasty, you'revery vulnerable.
And everything you've workedfor, especially when you're in business,
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that's really.
That's like insultingsomebody's child.
Yes.
And I play this as a game, so once.
And sometimes my friends arelike, aren't you bothered?
I'm like, no, not really.
I get it, you know, and sowhat I do is someone says something,
and then I internalize it.
I take it personal.
Or I feel like, you know, whenyou feel it in your chest or you
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feel it in your body.
Mm.
So I'm like, okay, obviously,I just took that personal.
I'm not neutral.
I step back and say, okay.
I get curious.
What could be going on with them?
Why did they throw that shadeat me?
So I get curious about whatcould be going on with that.
I'm like, okay, their dogdied, so they're just not in a good
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place, and they just projectedon me.
So it's really nothing to dowith me.
It's.
It's, you know, theirinsecurity, their fear, their judgment.
But then I also have to betransparent with myself, like, okay,
Was I showing up salty?
Was I in my ego?
And so I play that in my headand it, I get curious instead of
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upset and then right away Iflip it and it goes away.
Like, oh, I'm like, oh, yeah,consider the source.
I know that person's goingthrough that.
They're just insecure, feelingsome type of way and it just falls
off me.
But I play that again as a game.
But I've been doing this foralmost 10 years.
It took me time to really ma.
You know, I mean, I don'tthink we'll ever master it, but it's
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rare that I take things personal.
I feel it in my gut.
Yes.
I don't internalize it, whichis good.
Because when you startinternalizing all of those things,
that's so self defeating.
And you're basically giving into someone who's negative, perhaps
jealous, perhaps just a bully,for sure.
And you know, actually to betransparent, there was that situation
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like that this year thatreally, it did affect me.
And so I just, I really had towork on it.
But I also knew that I wasready to elevate into, you know,
a different level in my lifein business.
And these lessons were comingback around for me to learn them
again because I feel likeevery time we're going to go to another
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level in our life or business,some of the same lessons circle back
around.
And how are we going to handlethose this time?
It's logical thinking that's apart of our brain that is hard to
grasp sometimes.
We're emotional beings.
Yes, we are.
And certainly women, whenthey're in business, if they're raising
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a family, all of that, theyhave a lot of challenges and it's
a balancing act.
It is.
Women are not to.
Men are amazing too, but womenare really incredibly amazing.
And they can.
You're right.
It's a balancing act.
They handle so many, they wearso many different hats at all times.
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I think we use more parts ofour brain.
We just have to.
Right?
I mean, we're mothers andsisters and daughters and wives and
entrepreneurs and employeesand CEOs and like we wear so many
different hats at the same time.
Yeah, that's the trick.
At the same time.
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So do you have some pointersfor women in business?
I wanted to talk about yourbook as well, but what kind of pointers
do you have for women inbusiness or even who are climbing
that corporate ladder?
Sure.
So what I would, you know, forsomeone considering going to business
or who's already in business,I would say you, you have the Choice
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to create your business in away that works for you.
And I know right now there areso many different informational,
you know, webinars andseminars out there that teach you
how to do business.
And all of them are great andthere's great points in all of them.
You get to take the piecesthat work for you and create the
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business for a way that worksfor you.
Take what works and leave the rest.
It doesn't have to be this wayor that way.
You get to create yourbusiness in any way that works for
you is one tip.
And the other tip is you needto have conviction in yourself and
believe in yourself.
Yes, the imposter syndrome isgoing to kick in.
Yes, we're going to have theobstacles, we're going to have the
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naysayers, we are going todeal with all of those things and
just believe in yourself andhave conviction.
Because if you have that dreamin your heart, it was put there for
a reason and believe in you, period.
It's the fire in your belly, right?
Yes.
And too many people let thatgo out.
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I think we all have it as achild, but we lose it.
We lose it and it's.
Why do you think we lose it?
What's your perspective?
I think it's other people.
I think it's, well, theadversity, the obstacles, the messages
we hear, not having thechampions in our lives.
We do need that.
You can feel so very much alone.
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And other people, especiallyif they don't want to change, they're
going to dog on you and say,that's not going to work.
What are you doing that for?
You know, that kind of stuff,internalizing it slowly starts to
douse the fire inside of us.
You're right.
And that's why it's soimportant to believe in ourselves.
And you reminded me, when Istarted my business, they told me
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because it was male dominated,75% turnover rate, that I wouldn't
make it.
And here I am 25 years later.
When I got married, they saidit's not going to last.
We've been together for 26 years.
When I had my health crisis,they said that I would never be the
same again.
And I love how you mentionedthat because if we listen to those
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outside of us, which mosttimes they mean well, they're just,
you know, they want the bestfor us, but we know what's best for
us.
Well, we're all individualsand other people can't think for
others.
They don't know.
And yes, a lot of people mean well.
And then there are Those who don't.
And I think it's a culminationof all of that.
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When we get into adulthood andeven growing up, the messages we're
given, the marginalization,the pigeonholing, the things that
go on.
I've encountered it, you know,when I have, too.
When I was first inbroadcasting, there was a boss I
had that didn't feel womenshould be in front of a microphone.
Well, look at you now.
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I know.
Well, thank you.
But I was always kind of the kid.
And then even as an adult,it's like, I'll show you.
Really?
Exactly.
There you go.
That's you.
I just love what you just said.
And I'll show you.
Like, tell me I can't do it.
And I'll show you now yourbook, Can I Live?
Dare to Go from Effed up to Fabulous?
(40:55):
Yes.
I love that title.
Thank you.
What is that about?
I imagine that that's a realpage turner.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And so what it's about is justagain, you know, when I was 19 and
started therapy, she thoughtthere was going to be no hope for
me.
And I really have created justan incredible life that I do love.
(41:15):
And of course, nothing'sperfect, but I just, I do, I have.
I love my life.
I have a great life,incredible businesses.
And I said, well, how did Iget here?
You know, how did I breakthose cycles?
And so in the book, I talkabout the different steps and principles
that I used and took to get towhere I am today.
(41:37):
And you can really.
You don't have to read it frombeginning to end.
You can pick any chapter andyou could, you know, read it from
back to forward, forward toback, because it's not something
you have to read from front to end.
You can just.
Some of people have reachedout and said, you know, I just leave
it next to my bedside, and inthe morning I'll just pick up a page
(41:57):
and that page will get methrough the day.
And I just.
I had a.
I had a.
It was.
It was great and fun writingit, too.
That speaks volumes.
People are using that as likea daily devotional of motivation.
Yes.
And so that was.
I was like, wow, I wasn'texpecting that.
And then also, you know, mytarget audience audience was obviously
was women.
And then I was so surprisedwhen my male friends were reaching
(42:19):
out to me, saying, hey, I readyour book.
And I'm like, you read my book?
Really?
And they're like, yeah, it was great.
I got a lot out of it.
I'm like, okay, so you justyou never know.
It just.
I wasn't expecting that.
So you.
So you never know.
And I think when you put yourheart into something and you just
show up from a place of loveand the heart, things just unfold
(42:44):
naturally.
You're reaching out to so many people.
That speaks volumes.
That book is available onAmazon, am I correct?
Yes, it's available on Amazon.
So it's can I live dare to gofrom effed up to fabulous.
And people can also find it onyour website.
Your website'sdaretoachieve.com Am I correct?
Yes, that's correct.
I love the title.
(43:04):
That's great.
Now, do you work with peopleremotely or do you speak in front
of large groups?
How does that work?
Both.
I definitely work with people remotely.
And if you're in my local areaand you're.
You're interested in seeing mein person, I also do in person and
I do workshops and alsospeaking engagement.
(43:25):
So if there's something thatyou're interested in, we could definitely
talk about tailoring, youknow, workshop or a top that's specific
to your team or to your business.
I bet people leave yourseminars and your keynote speaking,
just dancing out of the room.
I imagine that people arereally motivated.
I love that because that's.
(43:45):
Honestly, I think we are too serious.
And so I do love to justinfuse fun, playfulness, and I love
to dance into anything I do.
So I hope they do leave likethat when I'm, you know, done with
my keynotes.
I love your perspectives, Grace.
This is exactly what's needed today.
(44:05):
Oh, Shelly, you're amazing.
Thank you.
You are, too.
I love to feature amazingpeople because this is going to reach
so many women.
And your website, again is daretoachieve.
Com.
Yes.
Excellent.
Well, I hope people reach outto you.
You're going to help a lot of ladies.
Thank you.
And you're amazing witheverything that you and Kathy do.
(44:27):
And congratulations forwinning the People's Choice Award
for 2024.
And I really look forward tocontinuing to watch your journey
expand.
Well, thank you, Grace.
I really am honored that yousay that.
Thank you so much.
You're welcome.
We hope you've enjoyed thislatest episode.
And if you want to hear moreepisodes of Women Road warriors or
learn more about our show, besure to check out womenroadwarriors.com
(44:51):
and please follow us on social media.
And don't forget to subscribeto our podcast on our website.
We also have a selection ofpodcasts just for women.
They're a series of podcastsfrom different podcasters.
So if you're in the mood forwomen's podcasts, just click the
Power network tab onwomenroadwarriors.com youm'll have
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Podcasts Made for Women WomenRoad warriors is on all the major
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Check us out and please followus wherever you listen to podcasts.
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