April 9: The Epic One

• What's The Worst Movie You've Seen? 
• The Tierney Brothers Join The Show
• How Old Is Too Old For Easter Eggs? 
• Insult Check
• Powerhouse Meg Washington Joins The Show
• Make My Day

Zach & Dom are taking a little easter break! But don't worry... we have you covered with a few little easter treats on the way! Wink Wink 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
A long time ago, in a lab far far away,
a science experiment went horribly wrong. Out of that busy
speaker rolls Zach and.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Have you ever felt like this?

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Like strange?

Speaker 4 (00:27):
This this happens Wednesday, kids, This is Zac and Dom. Yes,
it is Wednesday night, Australia and we are here to
help you celebrate. Only a touch over a week to go,
zack until the long weekend. And I feel like people
are starting to get a sense of that now and
always feel the weight lifting off people's shoulders.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Well, this weekend only a few days away. You're going
to have all your kind of Easter events. We're going
to a few of those. My daughter, she's four years old,
hasn't let me forget hey, the big Easter hunt, the
big East of Hunts coming, because when she was younger,
I would pick her up and run with her. That
feels like cheap now, but she still wants to do it.
She's like, you pick me up and take me to

(01:04):
the back.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
So what's your plan are you?

Speaker 3 (01:06):
I'm just gonna do it.

Speaker 4 (01:07):
So when does she when do you cut that off?

Speaker 3 (01:09):
What? Age seven or eight? I think when it's hard
to run holding it, I.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Can still do it. Now all right, Well, well, speaking of
actually been cut off around easter things, Zach, did you
know my mum has told me this year I'm mad
about this. She's told me that at thirty one, this
is the issues no longer buying me easter chop. Well,
this is good.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
We're getting both perspectives here. Well, me with my kids
and then you're representing the kids.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
The Zach and Tomb podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
Zaka movie very recently released is at the same time
getting one star reviews and has had one of the
biggest box office openings in cinema.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
History, in cinema history.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
Well, it's in the top fifty box office openings in
cinema history, mate, fifty. Do you know how many movies
has been That's a lot. It is the minecraft film.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
I just read a headline dom it said the worst
movie to make the most money.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
Yes, that sort of seems to me the vibe people
who are expecting it to tank after some dodgy reviews
came out. But there it is, mate, It's sitting there
number forty three in history of all time.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Box's around it any heavy hitters, Well, it actually makes
you lose a bit of hope in the cinematic universe. Way.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Well, for forty two is Tha Love and Thunder? Yeah,
forty one, forty one is Transformer's Age of Extinction.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
All classics.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
What about forty Star Wars Episode three, Revenge of the
Sith two thousand and five.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, ok so we get in there, mate, Was there
one that doesn't involve space?

Speaker 4 (02:45):
Ummm, well let me keep scrolling up. Hey, look if
you get all the way to number thirty one, Beauty
in the Beast Ema Watson.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, okay, but they're all existing, ip. Yes, there's nothing,
no original stories in there. No original I guess the
Minecraft movie is an original story based don existing ip.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
Yes, I mean I'm not sure. I'm just looking through
if any of these might have been maybe Avatar. Avatar's
an original story, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, so that counts kind of. I mean, it's a
rip of a Pokahontas, isn't it? Is it this?

Speaker 4 (03:13):
But look, people are panning this film, so it's made
about five hundred and fifty million Australian dollars WHOA in
its opening weekend.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
That's a lot.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
It's incredible, mate, And one review called it horrible and
the most boring way possible which is savage. Another one
because Jack Black stars in the Minecraft movie. Somebody said
in a Minecraft movie, Jack Black is like a desperate
clown at an underattended children's party.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Oh come on, Jack Black, you got to have a
soft spot for Jack.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
I would think so. But let's be honest. You look
at some of Jack's film choices.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Well, I haven't watched any film he's been in a
little while. What has he been doing? I remember that
there was Jamungi with the Rock. I'm sure that was
really good. Kevin Hart the Rock, Jack Black? What could
go wrong?

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Made? Actually it was okay, although I did and I
did have a particularly sad moment where someone I know
who I think is the twenty two years old I
was talking about Jumungi and they thought that's what I
was talking about, not.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
The Robin Williams one from the nineties.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
I didn't know there was a Robin Williams one from
the nineties.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
How dare they?

Speaker 4 (04:15):
I then had to show them who Robin Williams was.
They didn't know Robin Williams was. Oh boy, that actually
makes me angry. How old were they? Twenty two? That's
too old to not know.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Rob Willis what are the schools teaching? Yes, my captain,
my captain, Yes, Ma.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
I'm totally with you. But look, we want to know
on thirty one oh six five, what's the worst movie
you've ever seen?

Speaker 5 (04:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (04:44):
What's the one? Dom Reckon said, This one's in the
top fifty.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
If there was a list of the worst movies ever,
what takes out the top gong?

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Yeah, because obviously, sometimes you go along to a movie
because someone else is dragging you or because there's nothing else
to do, and you just end up being completely underwhelmed.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
Because some movies, like most movies aren't great, but they're
not bad.

Speaker 6 (05:06):
You know.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Most movies are kind of like, oh, yeah, that was
all right, yes, But sometimes you come across one and
like that was really bad.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
That was actively difficult to watch, and you kind of
when you watch a movie like that, you think how
many sets of eyes did this go through? And still
getting here?

Speaker 3 (05:21):
I wonder if the snowball's too big? Sometimes well that
train to mix metaphors has left the station, you know,
so it just gets They're like, well we can't stop now,
that's true. It's just kind of rocketing out of control.
You know which one it is?

Speaker 4 (05:36):
For me, We've got the sh You and I disagree
on almost everything except the worst film we've ever seen,
Downside Downsizing with Matt Damon circa twenty eighteen.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Five great films in there, and somehow they didn't make
any of them.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
It was the one about how you could shrink yourself.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, which is kind of interesting.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
I like that idea in a Honey I Shrunk the
kids style way.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
And then it kind of went into something. It started
there and by the end it was some type of
geopolitical comment, but it's like, not a good one.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
It was just kind of tacked it on at the
end and the credits rolled and you sat there thinking,
what have I just consumed?

Speaker 3 (06:12):
I only want that. I think this will be unpopular,
but in my opinion, couldn't watch. Had to turn it
off after five minutes. Knives out.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
No, I don't agree with you. You can't judge it
as the worst of all time if you only saw
five minutes of it.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
That voice then New Craig was dood I'm like, is
this a Saturday Night Life sketch?

Speaker 7 (06:31):
Like?

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Is this meant to be funny? Do people believe that
he has that voice?

Speaker 8 (06:35):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (06:36):
You know, I'm not with you on that.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Awful It starts for seven minutes of interview style talking heads. Yeah,
I'm like, what am I watching? You?

Speaker 4 (06:46):
You're a wezy Anderson fan. You'd love it if they
were all wearing flippers in an orange building, then you'd
be on board. Look thirty in one A six five.
What's the worst movie that you've ever seen? We've got
to double past the Teddy Swims if you're willing to
to make the nomination. Here, we've got Nicole in Brisbane.
What are you nominating, Nicole.

Speaker 7 (07:04):
I'm nominating Sausage Party. I don't know if you remember
the movie that had broken in it.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Yeah, it was like an animated thing, wasn't it.

Speaker 7 (07:10):
Yeah it was. And I remember going to the movie
theater with my partner and there were kids sitting in
the movie theater waiting to watch this, you know, animated
movie and obviously like the Bad Guys a.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
Douche now, So so I'm guessing I didn't see it.
This is about a decade ago. I'm assuming there's a
lot of innuendo, Nicole, that's the point of it, right.

Speaker 7 (07:31):
Oh, there's a bit more than like a lot of innuendo,
Like the bad guy is literally a douche.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Yeah, but I mean, like, are you saying it was
inappropriate for kids or it just wasn't funny.

Speaker 7 (07:44):
Or it was inappropriate for kids, and then it really
wasn't funny. It's probably like one of the worst movies
he's ever made. And then they made a sequel.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't see a Sausage Party. I
remember kind of hearing about it.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
I remember seeing post but thinking, what's a movie ticket now?
Eighteen dollars ninety nine or something not worth it? I'm
not paying eighteen dollars ninety nine for Sausage Party.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Yep. Like, it's interesting that Nicole says that's Seth Rogan's
worst movie. Where he's had movies that weren't released. Remember
that one with North Korea? Was it The Dictator?

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (08:19):
And it would like cause like all these international problems
almost ended the world, Like you don't please.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Don't piss off North Korea? Can we all just agree
not to piss off North Korea? I mean, criticize them
for their inhumane action, sure, but don't make jokes that
make laugh at them. Don't make films that laugh at them.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Lizzie and Melbourne, what's the worst movie of all time?

Speaker 8 (08:39):
Love Actually?

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Oh, you're gonna get dom upset about this.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
Lizzy, You are crazy? What are you talking about? And
I'm telling you, Lizzie, the whole country is screaming right
now as you said that.

Speaker 8 (08:50):
I know, way too many storylines, so predictable, and I
think it's your Grant's worst movie.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Well, I mean he's everything he's done is pretty brilliant,
so I guess he has to have a word movie.
But Love Actually, Lizzie, you're talking about I reckon if
we've done the phone topic, what's the best movie of
all time? We've got a lot of calls saying Love Actually.
Have you hated it from the start?

Speaker 9 (09:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (09:10):
First time I watched it, the first thing I said
was wasted two hours of my life that I won't
get back.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Well, are you not a romantic Lizzie or what's the issue?

Speaker 8 (09:17):
It's just so predictable and I think it's a bit
of a toxic view on relationship.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
So yeah, that's been a bit of the discourse recently. Yeah,
but you looked at some of the storylines and some
of these are a bit weird.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
My beef with that, mate, what's your beef with my
beef with that is. It was never pretending that it's
the perfect picture of love. It was saying, this is
how relationships are in the world. Sometimes they're doubling down.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
He's not trying to distance himself from it.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
No, I'm not distant because it's not endorsing all the
stars of relationships. I think everyone watched what Alan Rickman
didn't when that jerk. I don't think everyone went, oh,
what a beautiful story. It's saying that this is this
is the relate. But we're all striving, we're all inching
closer to love. That's what we do as humans.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Power love.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
Actually, I've seen it at least fifty times. Fifty yes,
and I listened at Christmas time. I listened to the
soundtrack by Craig Armstrong.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
The score so not like God Only Knows by the
Beach Boys, which plays at the end. You're talking about
the actual like cinematic music that plays in the.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
Scenes, orchestral instrumental stuff. Yes, there's a beautiful one, PM's
Love theme. If anyone wants to have a beautiful time,
put on PM's Love Theme and you'll you'll enjoy that.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Angelica in Melbourne. What's the worst movie of all time.

Speaker 10 (10:29):
Hello, I will have to say Molana too.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Oh that was recently, wasn't it?

Speaker 11 (10:33):
Yes?

Speaker 10 (10:34):
And I was so disappointed as someone who like when
I watched the first one, obviously when I was young,
I'm like, you know what, I'm going to go take
my you know, little cousins, and it was just so confusing, like,
for example, in like the first one, and like there
were so many hits of the soundtrack, like some that
people still sing late to this day, and like there
was just so many like characters added and the songs
are so trash, Like, oh, I couldn't came up with it?

Speaker 4 (10:56):
Can I ask you, Angelica? Because I'm I don't think
it got rave reviews, but I think it was relatively
it was well liked it enough. Is there any chance
Angelica that maybe part of your dislike of the film
is the disillusionment of childhood passing?

Speaker 10 (11:10):
No, Because I actually wanted to take him. I'm like, guys,
We're gonna go watch Molana because I was so excited.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
And I was just like, damn, well, no, dumb, it's
because Lynn Manuel Miranda wasn't involved. Really, yeah, he didn't
want to come back for it, and that they said
we're going to do it anyway because we know that
this will make money. And it did, but it was
pretty universally like, yeah, the reviews I heard were like
as similar to Minecraft. Actually it was like it's not
a good movie. Kids won't notice that the kids film. Yeah, yeah,

(11:39):
that just.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
Is disappointing that because some of the best films of
all time of kids.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Feel I know, but it can go either way. Like
some of them it's like this is going to be
an all time and the other ones like we just
want to make a bit of cash.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
Yeah, that's so disappointing. You could make finding meme.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Hang on, are you finding out that Disney likes to
make money?

Speaker 4 (11:56):
Is this as a price to you?

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Were you thinking they were doing it out of the
our hearts?

Speaker 4 (12:01):
Well, mate, when you see the Disney Castle at the
start of the film, it does feel like a magical place.

Speaker 7 (12:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
No, well it can be a magical place and they
can make money.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
Well, look, Angelica, because you're disappointed, we'll give you a
double pass to see Teddy Swims instead, and you are
very welcome. That will hopefully turn things around. And Teddy
Swims has added third and final Sydney and Melbourne shows
to his I've Tried everything but Therapy tour the Frontier
at pre sale starts tomorrow at two pm, with all
tickets on sale Thursday at three pm. You can also
grab tickets to his Brizzy shows with more details at

(12:32):
Frontier Touring dot com. And of all of those, if
I have to make you sit down right now and
watch Sausage Party, Mouana two or Love Actually, what.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Kind of interested in Sausage Party? I mean, Nicole didn't
sell it that well. He's made some good ones. This
is second Tom.

Speaker 12 (12:51):
We are.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
Two people who a lot of Aussies will know, but
now in a slightly different flavor. The Teerney brothers are here.
Andrew and Mike. Thanks so much for joining us. Guys,
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
We're reskinned.

Speaker 6 (13:11):
Yes, yeah, people might may know us from human nature
or is it one half of human nature?

Speaker 2 (13:16):
But yeah, but we've always been brothers.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Weirdly, so you guys go out. You're still with human nature,
but you're also performing the tools as the two of you.
I mean, you're so used to performing together. What's it
like just being two instead of four?

Speaker 12 (13:31):
It has been a different dynamic which I've really enjoyed.
We actually we've been touring with Human Nature around the
country and the Teinney Brothers are the opening act Human Nature, So.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
You guys have to do double the amount of work.

Speaker 12 (13:43):
Yes, So we walk out on the stage and it's like,
you know, we have a bit of a joke to saying,
guess what. The support act didn't turn up, so we're
going to do it.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
But it's been fun.

Speaker 12 (13:52):
I mean, Mike and I we kind of wonder how
it took this long to do what we've done, because
we've been writing songs since we're kids. At in our
bedroom we shared a bedroom growing up, we had bunk beds,
as most brothers probably do. And so now it just
feels great and we're finding a new a new voice,
if you will, and a new creative output.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
And why didn't you do it originally?

Speaker 7 (14:15):
Then?

Speaker 3 (14:15):
You know, why did Human Nature form and not you guys, Like,
how did you become a four instead of it two
if you were writing songs you know, since you were kids.

Speaker 6 (14:24):
I guess just because we got together as Human Nature.
We called ourselves the Four Tracks back in high school,
but back in that day it was just I don't know,
the group just became it was a vocal group, and
that seemed like a cool vehicle for us all, and
we just didn't really think about doing something as right
as at that point. You know, over the years, we've
kind of toyed with the idea of doing something as

(14:45):
the two of us, and it's kind of gone back
and forth, and then it just came about in the
last few years that we decided, let's.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
Forgive me for my human nature ignorance. I thought you
got together young, but were you human nature in school? Yeah,
you guys were a in school.

Speaker 12 (15:00):
Mike was twelve when we started. I was fifteen. And
you know that humilating ignorance is fine. I got a
haircut on the coast today and the guy I explained
to him, I'm a singer and you know in Vegas.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
He was like really fascinated. He goes, have you ever tried.

Speaker 12 (15:15):
To make it? And I was really humbled by that,
and I just said.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Oh, I kind of.

Speaker 12 (15:21):
I guess we've made it in a way, you know,
I said, He said, what are you doing here? I said,
I were doing concert tonight at the entertainment center. He goes, oh,
I'm an idiot. I guess you have made it. Then,
but the minds of human nature is fine.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
My one of my primary school teachers, a guy moved
in next door to her and he said he was
in a band, and she goes, oh, we're going to
be hearing you play in the garage, and he's like, oh,
maybe it was burned fttinger, not quite a little bit
bigger than that.

Speaker 4 (15:49):
Can you take us into the childhood?

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Then?

Speaker 4 (15:51):
Do you remember the first song you two wrote together,
what it was about, or any of the early themes
you explored in your writing. If you're that age, I'm
guessing it's probably not love songs yet. What was it about?

Speaker 12 (16:00):
Well, actually was, but we were kind of projecting, and
I remember we would write a whole bunch of songs.
One of the songs, early humanature songs called telling Everybody Yes,
and the lyric is telling everybody what we did last night,
and we would play you know, we actually didn't do
anything really cool that.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Night, but we said it in the song.

Speaker 12 (16:18):
But we'd write all these songs, and then there was
some you know, there were love songs, but very young
love songs. And I remember Mum saying to us, are
you ever going to write anything but love songs? And
At the time it worried me a little bit. But
then now as I've gotten on in our career, what
else do you want to sing about? You know, I
don't want to sing about Trump or I don't want
to sing about you know, troubles. I want to sing

(16:41):
about something that's good.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
So that's all about love.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
How's that changed for you though, because love is very
different at eighteen years old to middle age, you know,
do you see themes changing in the songs?

Speaker 6 (16:53):
Yeah, definitely, And I think, you know, and and Andrew's right.
I mean that there's different things that we've on this
record that we've made called Soundtrack of My Life, and
it's you know, we do. There's different things that we've
There's songs about, I mean, when we lost our nan,
who was a big part of our family, and there
was a song that we kind of had written about that.
There's there's songs about, you know, I guess, exploring different

(17:14):
parts of your life and different loves that you would have,
you know, love that you'd have for your family as
opposed to love, you know, for your partner.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Or you asked.

Speaker 12 (17:21):
One of the first songs we ever wrote, and because
we were as human nature, we wrote a song called
four Times the Love and and the lyricals I'm going
to give you more four Times the Love and and
that was yeah, yeah, this didn't kind of work. Writing
about love from the perspective of four guys, it gets

(17:43):
a bit.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
You didn't realize that it had to come through maybe
one voice. It was just like we all have to
be seeing it.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Well, No one never made the record.

Speaker 4 (17:52):
I'm wondering because obviously Phil and with the other two
Nature members, how did they take the news when you
guys come to them and say, hey, we want to
do a side project just us to Was that an
awkward conversation?

Speaker 2 (18:02):
No, not at all. Actually, yeah, right.

Speaker 6 (18:04):
I don't know whether they kind of thought that maybe
it just seemed natural that we would do something like that.
I mean, we've always written together and done a lot
together as brothers. But yeah, I don't think there was
awkwardness about it at all.

Speaker 12 (18:16):
Backstage other night and someone said, oh, what are the
teeny brothers like in Tobyco's It's really good, really great.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
You should we should just see it, And Phil said, yeah,
they're right.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Now. Michael, we wanted to run by you while you
were in here. Some news that's come out in the
last twenty four hours shocking news. I think for the
first time in about forty years, the name Michael has
dropped outside the top one hundred Australian male baby names.

Speaker 9 (18:38):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
Ah, I know it's crisis times for the name Michael
and Zach and I have been talking about this a
great deal. It's an iconic sort of name over the
last fifty or so years. How do you feel here
in that news?

Speaker 6 (18:50):
Yeah, well that's surprising to me and I mean I
don't know what are the top names?

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Can you give us someone?

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Well, Olive is always up there. There's a lot of.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Eyes are they're weird one? So there's some weird like
not real that shouldn't.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Wait.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
Well this year Henry Theodore, Noah, Oliver, they're sort.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
Of they're regularly.

Speaker 4 (19:10):
Yeah, yeah, they're they're they're regular. But people seem to
have shunned shunned Michael stripped out of the hundred.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
That means there's more than names.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
Yeah, how does that feel? I mean, does it feel
like a snubbing of you personally?

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Have you contributed to that now? I feel I'm not
taking it personally, So.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Have you brought any Michaels into the world. Are you
doing your part?

Speaker 7 (19:31):
Now?

Speaker 6 (19:31):
I have a daughter, unfortunately, so I haven't passed on Michelle.

Speaker 4 (19:35):
Her middle names.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Michael little why Michael.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
That's nice. Well, Mike, maybe if there's any sort of
pregnant women listening at the moment, would you like to
make an impassioned plea to them to keep the name
going with the name alive?

Speaker 12 (19:47):
Come on, guys, come on, but change the spelling the
y K Michael. That could I think that's that feels
very twenty five?

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Is so you think it needs a rebrand? Yeah, I
think the plain old m I C H A E.
L let's out.

Speaker 12 (20:00):
And also something I've always noticed Mike, when we would
tour in the States, he'd say his name was Michael,
and everyone Michael.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
You have to say Michael Michael.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Is it a popular name in the States.

Speaker 12 (20:15):
Michael DiCaprio. We've got a friend Michael, but he's of
our age too. Any young Michaels.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Michaels not in the last year apparently.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Dropped out of a hundred on the new Tiny Brothers record.

Speaker 12 (20:26):
After this one, we'll have to write a song called
Michael just to bring it back.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah, well, everything does come back, doesn't because all the
names that are in now are what we would have
considered when we were young, old people names. Yep, ye,
so they do. They do cycle.

Speaker 12 (20:40):
Back all back around to Well, there's some old people
names like our NaN's name was Marjorie.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
I don't know if that's going to come back.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
It might.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
I think you'd be surprised.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
I met a five year old called Beverly recently. Beverly's
coming back. Marjorie can as well?

Speaker 12 (20:54):
Now, great Nan. Her name was Florence. When Florence Pugh
is obviously Florence is huge.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
That would be in the top ten female names. I reckon, wow,
I have little kids, and there's a lot of flows
like yeah, So.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
What we're saying is just give it another fifty or
sixty years and come back.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
What about Andrew do we have any ye?

Speaker 4 (21:16):
The big news was Michael.

Speaker 5 (21:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (21:18):
I think, yeah, it's a pretty strong It's Andrews means manly,
like not as in the suburb, but actually so I
think it's always going to stay strong. I mean, it's
it's a bit common for me sometimes.

Speaker 4 (21:30):
But what would you pick if you could change your name,
what would you go with?

Speaker 12 (21:33):
I would go with I was if I had a son,
I was going to call him Manhattan, a cool name.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
Right, Yeah, what was it when that when coming.

Speaker 12 (21:41):
To I love Manhattan. There's a city, but it was
going to be Manhattan Jones.

Speaker 4 (21:45):
We had it sorted that sounds detective or an.

Speaker 12 (21:48):
Actor, Manhattan Joanes Tinny MJT. But MJT yeah, MGT. But
we didn't get it. We had a girl, so it
was still actually flirted with the idea of calling her Manhattan.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
I mean you just mentioned Florence. Florence is city. Lots
of kids named Dallas, and that's not Austin, Austin. And
yet so some cities you're allowed to because there was
a bit of a stir last year because an American
couple called their kid Brisbane because really enjoyed and they
got roasted on that.

Speaker 6 (22:19):
But I mean, why are you allowed some cities but
not I don't know anyone called Melbourne either.

Speaker 12 (22:24):
No, no, no, little Mella, you don't mean Manydoss was
thinking recently, could there are three.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
Months of the year you can name a child after
this one we're in now, April, May and June. The
other nine months you don't meet in October very often
there's no decembers.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Yes, January January.

Speaker 4 (22:41):
I guess there's a couple of January falling apart. Well, guys,
it's so great to have you here. I know you're
just at the end of the tour at the moment.
You've got a couple of dates left.

Speaker 12 (22:53):
We've got a couple of dates left for the Human
Nature Tour, and then are actually doing some solo shows
as the Hitty Brothers to in Sydney, one in Melbourne,
and one in Las Vegas. Yeah, check that out.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
But it's gonna be a lot of fun.

Speaker 12 (23:06):
We'll be campaigning for Michael to come back.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah, bring back Michael.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
You can just do sort of like they do with
the telethon back in the days, an appeal concert. Just say,
we're not leaving tonight until we can get one hundred
new Michaels out there and just pregnant women throw their.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Hands onto the hundred again.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
Yes, I believe in you guys. Look, thank you so
much for coming in. Mike and Andrew really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Thanks for having us.

Speaker 12 (23:30):
You're listening to the Zach and Dom podcast.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
I have an Easter related dilemma, Zach, what's that? Well,
I'm worried Easter could be ruined this year. If I'm honest,
I'm feeling pretty flat about Easter now.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
East is still a little while away. Work a couple
of weeks.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
Yeah, well next week is it? Yeah, I've got to
get movement. And I'm just a bit worried because I'm
thirty one years old and I've loved Easter every year
because I count down to the dairy milk bunny, the
kinder surprise bunny.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
You're a big kind of Easter eg guy. Don't you
snack on him in the days in the weeks leading
up to it?

Speaker 4 (24:03):
It's a tree, it's I mean, it's the one time
of year where we celebrate chocolate.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Have you bought any eggs or buddies this year for yourself?

Speaker 4 (24:11):
Have had a couple had a cherry ripe one yesterday,
so it's walking around, well, cherry ripe? What Easter egg?

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Do they sell those individually or do you have to
get a box?

Speaker 7 (24:20):
No?

Speaker 4 (24:20):
No, no, it was an individual one. We're talking imagine
the size of like a small pumpkin, like you know
those sized.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
Eggs, and you just unwrapped it what at the shops? Yep,
and just hoad in while you're wandering around windows shopping
and enjoy a chocolate egg.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
It was, mate, But again you look at me like that.
But why not there's no rules about this.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Of course, there's no rules, but everyone else kind of
has an unspoken rule.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
Well, okay, My point is I like to set the
build up to Easter by having a couple of, you know,
Easter chocolates by myself. But every year when it's come
to Easter Sunday, since I was what three years old,
four years old, my mum Judy has bought me Easter chocolate.
I've got Easter eggs from mum. And this year I'm
feeling guarded because at thirty one, she's cutting me off.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Officially.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
She said to me a couple of days ago, Dom,
I think it's probably time, at this age of your
life that you stop getting Easter chocolate from me. At
thirty one, she said, I think we call them this.
It's the game over. It's done.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Why now and not ten years ago?

Speaker 4 (25:24):
Well, mate, okay, that's rough. I probably begged ten years ago.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
And I do remember maybe like around twenty seven. Yep,
she kind of didn't she give you a warning.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
There was there's been. There's been talks over the years
that the tap will stop flowing at some point.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Because not only did you want the eggs, but you
also wanted her to hide them, didn't you.

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Yeah she did do Easter it comes for a little while,
but they were good fun mate, I loved. I mean,
when did your parents stop buying you Easter chocolate?

Speaker 3 (25:48):
How were you eighteen? I guess eighteen.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
You haven't received Easter chocolate from your parents in nearly
twenty years, not even an egg.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
I don't think so well. I moved out of home
when I was eighteen, and I don't think they were
given me eggs. I don't remember.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
Man, you missed out.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
No, I got good eighteen years my childhood.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
I reckon. If I compared my life to your life,
I'd pick mine. Sure, you got a life and two
kids in a house.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
That by the thirties. Yeah, you know, it shifts a
little bit for a lot of people anyway. Yeah for me,
I'm in my mid thirties and I'll be buying them
for my kids now, so it would be a bit
weird for my mum to still be their kids. I'm
not going to do a hunt and then be like, hey, kids.

Speaker 4 (26:33):
Now it's your look, I hear you, mate, But don't
you think there was something nice that mum was still
buying them for me? It was kind of a nice
a nice time. I think it was nice.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Was she doing it for you had two brothers? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (26:47):
No, Well they're married with kids, so was she doing
it for them? Sometimes she'd feel guilty about the fact
she was buying me, you know, a lot of chocolate eggs,
so she'd buy something for them, like, but it was tokenistic.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Would you consider because you got your own now, yeah,
would you consider going out and buying the eggs and
giving them to your mum to hide? Is it a
money thing? Is it a money thing for her?

Speaker 4 (27:10):
No? I think it's more of a principle of the matter. Okay,
so I don't think she'd do that. I'm pretty sure
she would to give than the gift my parents think
about it. I mean, but I'm not feeling particularly generous
at the moment with this decision.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
I can imagine.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
Look thirteen one, six five. I want to know if
I'm an outlier here or not. When did your parents
stop buying new Easter eggs? What was the oldest age
that your parents brought you an Easter egg for Bailey
in Brizzie. How old were you, Bailey?

Speaker 9 (27:40):
Ah, I think I was about thirteen.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
Shut up. You have not received easy jog for your
parents since you were thirteen.

Speaker 8 (27:49):
Yeah, that was a bit of a bad boy.

Speaker 9 (27:51):
I think that's the only reason why.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
So maybe they were withholding it.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
So I've nearly gone twenty years longer than Bailey, is
what we're here in there. Bailey stopped at thirteen, I've
nearly gone twenty years longer than him.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Chocolate, Elizabeth in Brisbane. When did you get cut off
from your parents buying your Easter eggs?

Speaker 4 (28:12):
I haven't got cut off, Elizabeth.

Speaker 9 (28:16):
Oh yeah, is my fifties.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
Hey, this is what I'm talking about, Elizabeth. So your
parents are still buying you Easter chocolate now in your fifties.

Speaker 8 (28:27):
Yeah, because we make a great fun of it.

Speaker 9 (28:30):
My daughter she's twelve, we buy it for her.

Speaker 8 (28:33):
We all do secrets things for giving each other eggs.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
And yeah, I wish you had said, Elizabeth, because I
know what Zack's going to say. Now if there's a
kid involved, Oh o, rules.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
Are out the window. Yeah, because then you're doing it
for the kid's sake.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
Yeah, yeah, whereas not not just the thirty one year
old's sake.

Speaker 3 (28:51):
What you need to do is you need to involve
your nieces and nephews.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
Oh yes, maybe I could get in on an Easter
account they're doing. Yeah, I could totally own.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
You should talk your mom and she's doing a big
one and invite them all over.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
That's not bad. We are asking thirteen one A six five,
how old were you when your parents cut you off
from buying Easter chocolate for you? Because my mom at
thirty one, she's decided I'm too old now for it.
And I actually think my mom's called up.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
This is exciting Judy Dom's mom. Oh you're you're ruling
a harsh household.

Speaker 4 (29:26):
Judy.

Speaker 6 (29:28):
Mom.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
You've just heard from Elizabeth there that she's still getting
East chocolate in her fifties. Why is thirty one too old?
Why are you cutting me off?

Speaker 7 (29:36):
Well?

Speaker 9 (29:36):
I believe I enjoy Elizabeth's Fanley really because that one
gets me used to it.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
Yeah, hang on, all this time you've been an adult,
you haven't been getting your parents e street. There's just
been a one way street.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
Yep. Yeah, wait, I mean when you attend you don't
buy me chocolate so just because you don't have any money.
So when should it have changed? When should I have
started buying East To chocolate back? What age?

Speaker 3 (29:58):
When you had a job?

Speaker 4 (29:59):
Okay, well at fourteen? So mum, I mean, are you
very firm on this? Like how much room negotiation is
there on the Easter chocolate thing?

Speaker 9 (30:08):
Well, as you know now that there's four grandchildren, they
need to get the more of the chocolates now and
more of the attention.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
So you are directly and.

Speaker 9 (30:18):
I don't have to be persuaded that one day, if
you become a father, then maybe then I will include
you again.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Oh what No, this too much seems like a bribe.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
So what I'm being told there is that my mom,
if I can give her more green kids, sheield stoup
by the Easter chocolate.

Speaker 12 (30:37):
Again.

Speaker 3 (30:37):
The wild thing is Dom's considering. I think I could
do that.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Which is funny. I mean, you fall in love with
someone and generally you want it to be because there's
a real meeting of two souls, a real spark. If
you found out someone had married you and started a
family with you just so that mom would buy them
Easter chocolate. Again, I don't know how you'd feel. But
maybe I started dating app profile and I put this
in there, please marry me and have children with me,
because my mom said, those are the conditions of me

(31:05):
getting an easter buddy? Do you reckon I get any.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Actions at the end of the day in easter, buddy?
Is what four or five six dollars?

Speaker 4 (31:12):
I mate? Cost of living? It's like ten or eleven.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Now, oh, in that case, get out of that Tinder profile.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
Thank you, mom. We'll take this conversation off air, okay,
Zach and Tom podcast. Zach a FrameMaker comment to me
the other day, and I've been resting within my brain
if this was an insult or a compliment.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
It wasn't clear through context.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
No, I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
It wasn't in a birthday card. No, and I'm not
that would be a weird place to insult someone.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
Yeah, but you've done it. So yeah you what did
I write? I think you gave me a birthday card once?
It said to one of my favorite colleagues.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Yeah, that's not that's just like stating.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
A fan shut up anyway. No, this was a comment.
You know, sometimes someone can make a comment that can
just get its way wheezel its way into your brain.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Well, sometimes you think it's a compliment at the start, yes,
and then you're like driving home and you're like, hang on, yeah,
that wasn't technically positive.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
So I was hanging out with my mate, in fact,
mutual friend of our Scotty recently, oh Scotty, long term
friend Scotty, and and Scott was telling me that he
just he just got up with some family and a
family member had said to him, so, Scott, are all
your friends to all your friends have kids now? And
Scott had said all except one, actually, Dom, But Dom
is out there living his best single life. Yeah, And

(32:30):
Scott says to me, and he goes, I was thinking
about you, Dom, and I thought, you know, I reckon.
I always thought if I was you were, i'd feel
a bit sad. But you're you're killing it. You're living
your best single life.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Backhanded company, you reckon? Yeah, it's backhanded. What do you
mean because you say I always thought, yeah, I had
imagined your situation, ye'd be really sad. Yeah, it doesn't
look like it is.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
You're Yeah, you're mad. That's what I got out of it,
was like.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
So I wouldn't say it was a criticism.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
No, I took it like imagine a Nattinburg documentary when
they're commentating on we don't know how life has survived here,
but somehow it's found a way. That's what I interpreted
it as.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
He's a bit older than you, Isn't he though? Any
friends without kids?

Speaker 4 (33:15):
Apparently not?

Speaker 3 (33:16):
No, you're the only one.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
Yeah, yeah, No, I'm aware of this.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
You're thirty one. That's not old to not have kids.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
No, I guess not. I mean, I guess so he
is thirty five, so I guess.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Even at that age. I was like, oh, wow, like
I'm thirty five, I know a lot of people with
that kids, do you? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (33:36):
Well, maybe I shouting out with you more than Scott
because that would be less likely to get in my
head because I'm honestly I'm thinking about it.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Have you Well?

Speaker 4 (33:43):
I left the conversation going like, is Scott and his
wife having conversations about like? Have I been described as
brave at any point? You want that?

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Dude?

Speaker 4 (33:56):
You know, I don't want to be called brave.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
No, Job's out there putting himself in the very courageous.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
That's my fear is that in their eyes I'm I'm
out there sort of pushing through despite the hardships for you.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
You don't want someone taking that tone.

Speaker 4 (34:13):
That's what I'm talking about, and I think that's what
was coming across with the whole look at you living
your best single life almost like I wouldn't want to
be you. No one would, of course, but you're doing
okay with it.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Yeah, surprising.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
So I don't really know what I'm supposed to say
back to that, Do I care? Man? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (34:30):
I am?

Speaker 4 (34:31):
Okay, Yeah, so you say I am.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
You could try and do a backhanded one back? What
do you mean a bit of tennis?

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Give me an example.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
They give you a backhand, you could go backhand back.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Well you could say something like, well I always thought
I wanted kids, and then I thought you're life.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
But you seem to be managing very brave.

Speaker 12 (34:57):
You're listening to the Zach and Dom podcast.

Speaker 11 (35:03):
She's a three time ARIA Award winning singer. The Talented
Boys behind Blue is Calypso.

Speaker 13 (35:09):
Mackenzie, you know what's here now. You don't need to
keep coming back to this.

Speaker 11 (35:13):
Place and an all round creative powerhouse. Please join me
in welcoming to the show. The incredible Meg Washington.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Oh, yes, how good is this Meg? Thanks for coming
in studio to chat.

Speaker 13 (35:26):
Thanks for having me. I love that promo.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
What a creative life you have. You have your own music,
you have your voice acting in Bluie. You wrote How
to Make Gravy one of the only Australian movies that
we see on local streamers. They came out late last year.
It seems like you have a well balanced kind of
creative outlets everywhere.

Speaker 13 (35:46):
Thanks.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
Yeah, I've just keep doing new shit and it's fun.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
Yeah. Are there any sort of creative fields you haven't
dabbled in yet that you'd love a shot at? Like
do you ever see slam poetry? And you'll like, get
me up there?

Speaker 5 (35:59):
Not slam poet, but I do want to try stand
up at some point.

Speaker 13 (36:04):
Really, yeah, I do. I have a weird fascination.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
With what interesting about it? Because Dom and I have
both you know, we've dabbled over the years. That's where
we met actually really yeah, and so.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
That was a lot better than I am. I'll be honest.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
We both transferred to radio before we realized our skill
for more here than there. But yes, what fascinates you
so much?

Speaker 5 (36:27):
I don't know, like at shows when I do like
talking in between the songs.

Speaker 13 (36:33):
I just love when it's funny.

Speaker 5 (36:36):
I would rather be funny than not funny, especially because
I have a tendency to write kind of juicy, like,
sort of heavy song, so I feel intrinsically like I
need to be funny in between.

Speaker 13 (36:49):
Otherwise the whole show becomes a bit of a drag.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
Because I think that can go either way. I think
some artists would just maybe between the songs, want to
be really serious and be taken like very in a
solemn way.

Speaker 13 (37:00):
Well, I think you can be serious and funny.

Speaker 5 (37:02):
I think it's almost the funniest way to be seriously funny.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Yeah, you can put on that show maybe with a piano.

Speaker 13 (37:09):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (37:10):
I don't want to, you know, cut to mention the grass.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
I mean there's an opportunity there, like it's only to mention.

Speaker 13 (37:18):
Yeah, well watch this space. You can put it in
the promo next time I come.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
We are one year this week. I'm not sure if
you're aware of this. Since the Bluey Special The Sign,
in which you obviously play Calypso Blues Teacher but also
Lazarus Drug, your song was featured as the climax of
that kind of short film. I guess if people haven't
seen it, an if you're not a parent, you're probably
not aware. But Bluey released this twenty nine minute episode,

(37:45):
and the cinematic heights it reaches by the end is
hard to fathom if you haven't seen it. And I
know that I'm describing a kid's show. Yeah, I was crying,
My wife was crying, everyone was crying. What was that
experience like for you?

Speaker 13 (38:01):
Well, I mean, it's an amazing show to be a
part of.

Speaker 5 (38:04):
Like I'm a very small, you know, part of something
that's very like just you know, like a.

Speaker 13 (38:09):
Very powerful show.

Speaker 5 (38:12):
And yeah, that song, I mean, I think what was
so great about that song was, you know, obviously like
where it was, but it was kind of the twenty
seven minutes that led up to that moment, I think,
you know, and the combination of that song happening and
at the end that sort of really it's just a

(38:32):
good example of when like musical storytelling really works, I think.

Speaker 13 (38:39):
And it was.

Speaker 5 (38:39):
Amazing, Like there are a lot of videos on TikTok
of like people crying and kids crying, little kids, you know,
having like sad feelings and yeah, it's been it's been cool,
Like it's been amazing.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
When you started with the Bluey Journey, what was that
like twenty eighteen or something like that. Yeah. Would you
ever think that in six years time, people all around
the world would be hearing your music through the show?

Speaker 13 (39:06):
No way.

Speaker 5 (39:06):
Well it's funny actually because Bluey my first Bloey taping
was the last thing I did kind of on my
way to hospital to have my son. Oh yeah, I
had like the voice, I had the like I had
the session booked in and I had an appointment at
the hospital, like it wasn't an emergency. But when I
got there, they were like, oh, you can't leave, like
you're saying now, And I was like, okay.

Speaker 13 (39:28):
Cool, but I remember my husband was like not. He
was like, are you sure you need to do this
dog show?

Speaker 5 (39:35):
Like are you sure this can't wait to another time?
And I was like no, no, I said, I do it.
I want to do it, like it's cool, you know.
And so it's been really amazing because basically this show
and my son were born pretty much at the same time,
so they've really grown up together and it's been amazing
to see.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
Wait, do you remember when it it occurred to you
that this thing's blowing up a bit bigger than maybe
you and the team at expect when it went.

Speaker 5 (40:01):
On to Disney Plus and all of that went live,
and then I saw the Nielsen report that it was
like in the top ten of American shows. I was like,
that seems you know, because as a musician, you know
how big America is. Like, yes, you know, and yeah,
I was like, Okay, that's like not that's heavy, that's
you know, she's really blowing up. And then they had

(40:21):
that big balloon at the Macy's Day Parade, which again
she was really blowing up. So yeah, it was kind
of you know, it's been amazing to be a part of.
And I mean I love that show because I love
it's punk soul. Yeah, I love how punk and itself
and idiosyncratic it is. I think it's real proof that

(40:42):
if you let creators make stuff that's really idiosyncratic and
not make shows via committee like you get incredible results.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
Shangri La, the new one by you Meig tell us
about the origins behind that one.

Speaker 5 (40:56):
Shangri La is the first song from my next record,
which is album number five. You know what they say,
Lucky number five. Everyone cracks it on album five. Sabrina
Carpenter made it on album five. But and Shangla is
kind of the love letter to nature because I was

(41:20):
thinking a lot about horniness actually when I wrote this
like song, and it's kind of an ode to horniness
and thinking about how nature is horny and we're part
of nature, right.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
So not one for the bluey fans as much.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
Maybe the parents. That's how they got there, is what
makes nature horny? Do you mean like the birds and
the bees?

Speaker 5 (41:43):
Well, yeah, I mean I think in this like like
not to get to you know, feelsophical on on on
you know, kiss FM.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
But it's night radio. We can we can spend some
time there.

Speaker 5 (41:58):
Well, I just feel like in this world, you know,
in this capitalistic world, we're kind of so outcome based
and there's not a lot of time for sort of
lazy curiosity and that feels harny to me.

Speaker 9 (42:15):
And in my.

Speaker 5 (42:18):
Music, like especially with this record, I was very attracted
to the idea of space, space in general, like space
in the top line, space in the melody, but also
space in the lyric and space in the execution of
the lyric.

Speaker 13 (42:36):
And so yeah, it's like a lot of.

Speaker 5 (42:38):
This music is I mean, it's not country, but it's
not not country. It's sort of space hornbag.

Speaker 4 (42:48):
Yeah right, interesting, Well, I mean that has been a
country revival lately, megan the last few years in there
the pop music saga if this isn't country, but it's
not not country, do you think it could be a
part of that? Upsweep.

Speaker 13 (43:00):
Well, it's interesting, Like.

Speaker 5 (43:01):
This whole record came out of a process of feeling
like everything that I'm hearing is.

Speaker 13 (43:10):
Perfect.

Speaker 5 (43:11):
Every bar has been quantized, every every top line has
been auto tuned, everything is in four four, Everything is square,
gritted off, polished, like perfected by machines. And what I'm
really craving is like the feral edges of kind of
human creativity.

Speaker 13 (43:31):
So like, yeah, the.

Speaker 5 (43:35):
Record, I mean, maybe it's a country, maybe it's country ish,
but it doesn't it's not trying to be pop.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Well, you weren't a funky jazz band with the composer
from Bluey Joff Bush. Weren't it the way you're describing it,
that feels a bit funky jazz, you know, not in
the way of the style of music, but in the
ethos behind.

Speaker 5 (43:55):
Yeah, Like jazz has a lot of space for error.
And I think that in this because you're improvising a lot,
you know, and you don't always it's not always perfect,
but that's part of the charm, you know.

Speaker 13 (44:07):
And I feel like this music.

Speaker 5 (44:09):
Yeah, every time we came to when we were making
the record, like we would ask the question like, oh,
should we fix this, and then we just left it
unfixed and that sort of became the sound.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
And the great thing about that is like if you
actually did make any mistakes, you can be like, yeah, no,
that was they say.

Speaker 5 (44:27):
Actually, when when you're like learning to improvise and play jazz,
they say that if you play a wrong note, just
play it twice.

Speaker 13 (44:35):
We'll just really sit on it.

Speaker 5 (44:37):
That's just commit Yeah, not even like double down, just
like make that the make that the point.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Yeah. I loved during this chat as well. I'm just
like learning that there was no one else in the
world better to play Calypso bluish teacher.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
Why.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
I feel like that's that character. I'm not sure if
it was written for you in mind or not, but
I feel like a lot of the ways that Lipsey
talk talks is similar to how you talk your philosophies
towards life.

Speaker 5 (45:06):
Oh well, I mean I think it's funny how everyone
on the show like no.

Speaker 13 (45:10):
One's doing a voice.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (45:11):
Whenever whenever my friends say, you know, can you do
the voice for I'm like, this.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
Is yeah, that's true.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
There's no I guess I don't think there's any voice
actors like as traditional people who have come through voice acting.
I think everyone is either an actor acting background or
from other backgrounds.

Speaker 5 (45:31):
Yeah, or it's just your real voice and that's just
how Dave McCormack is.

Speaker 13 (45:34):
Yeah, that's just like that's the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
Well, mate, thank you so much for coming in. It's
been so great having you on the show. And we
can't wait to I guess stay up to date with
your Melbourne Comedy Festival next year. Great, we look forward
to it. This is second m.

Speaker 9 (45:54):
Go ahead, make my day?

Speaker 10 (45:57):
Are you ready?

Speaker 4 (45:58):
Dog?

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Were trying to raise away and there's for lesser known holidays,
holidays that need a little help to get the word out.
Each night I bring two to the show. They're both
occurring in the next twenty four hours. You and I
have to pick one each to become ambassadors for So.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
What tomorrow Thursday? Is it tenth? Yeah? The tenth of April.
What have we got coming up?

Speaker 3 (46:17):
It's world Bad and Tweling day.

Speaker 4 (46:20):
Well, well your baddens everyone. Finally a day I can
get around. This is I feel like Bad and Twirling
is a lost start in twenty twenty five?

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Have you ever given it a go?

Speaker 4 (46:30):
I've twelved a couple of batons. I mean that sounds
like you've fixed, but no, I've genu I have twelved
a couple of battons in what context? I think at
school as part of a drama play we did like
it was going back to like nineteen thirties nineteen forties America,
and I was part of a marching band scene and
so I twelve some batons in the background.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
That sounds important, sounds like you had one of the
main roles, You're the bad and twelve in the marching band.
Because usually I'd imagine the people who can't play music
are given the Adams to twelve. But this was this
was within a play. Yeah, you were given the thing
they usually give people. It was Wideline from the Bear.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
It was one of the roles I played. You know
that why. I had a very diverse that was year
eleven drama. I had a very diverse range of roles.
I had to play that one.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
What else did you play?

Speaker 4 (47:20):
I was also the watch seller.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Yeah, everyone would have been vuying for that one when
the roles were.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
Yes, Yeah, I had a hell watch. I got watch seller.
I had a hell of a scene. I'll have you know.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
What did you do? Was it comedic? Dramatic?

Speaker 4 (47:36):
There was a dramatic scene where I had to tell
the main character that we were out of watches. There
was a big scene, mate.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
And hang on, didn't I see you earlier? Twelve battons?
You said what I do with my personal time is
up to me.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
I do think though baton tweling. For a long time,
baton twiling was a big game. A lot of people
would have told Batons.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Yeah, and you think that it needs a little help now, Well,
it's when was the.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
Last time you tweled a baton? Or even forget that,
when was the last time you saw about in tweled?
It's been a while.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
I've just gone on the website for World bat in
Twirling Day. It's expired. Yeah, so yep, that's available. If
anyone wants the domain, maybe we.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
Could pick that up because that used to be an
Olympic sport, didn't it baton twirling like early days? Don't
believe I reckon it was. I'm going I'll search this
up now. It was baton toiling an Olympic sports. I
reckon early days it was an Olympic sport.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
No, it wasn't.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
But they are this and I kid you not. There
is a petition from the Baton Toiling Association to make
it an Olympic sports.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Well, I guess it's kind of like it could be
a gymnastics thing, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
They do the ribbon.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
That's a good point.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
It's kind of in the same ballpark. April tenth is
also Golfer's Day.

Speaker 4 (48:55):
Yeah, okay, this is up your ally. You were a
bit of a golf prodigy as a kid, weren't you?

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Not a prodigy? Far from it. I did start playing
golf much younger than children usually probably would unless you're
a world champion.

Speaker 4 (49:08):
Because there was a number of years there where you
and I, as a bit of a Christmas celebration each year,
would go and play a game of golf.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
Well, you would consider someone a prodigy if they could
just hit the ball. And so I can understand from
your eyes yeah, I was like Tiger Woods.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
You were very good, and you kept insisting it was
the one social adding you are happy to have with me.
Was a golf day.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
Now, I remember the first golf day we ever went to.
You were in a really bad mood all day. Remember that.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
I don't remember this.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
And I couldn't figure out why. And you had expected
to win and you were really upset that you weren't
winning well. And he said that you were really competitive,
and that was the first time I had seen Yeah, gotcha,
I'd seen that. I think that's waned a little bit.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
Yeah, the competitiveness, Yeah, in the last ten years, I
think because it was a cruel kind of Yes, you've
said this, a cruel twist to be given. What did
you say, so much competitive instinct and so little ability.
I've heard you say the phrase before, mate, it's a
good line and you never have to go if you want.
The competitive instinct has waned. I think. I think enough

(50:12):
experience looking around and comparing contrasting viabilities to those I think.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
That was incredible. With the belief like maybe this time,
even though it had never happened before, try a new sport,
and you thought maybe this one, this is.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
What movies make you believe growing up, though, don't they.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
If you just find the right one, you might be
a world champion.

Speaker 4 (50:34):
In one moment, one slight change of technique and everything shifts.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
I'm happy to celebrate that. I'm kind of surprised.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
Well, mate, how about what do you mean you're surprised?

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Well, you know, you think you'd try it. It'd be
like the first Saturday of March or something. You think
you put golfer's day on a weekend. Not everyone can
play on a Thursday.

Speaker 4 (50:51):
Yeah, but golf of money, big money thing, right, I
reckon most people who.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Are Yeah, they go have a meeting on the links.
This is it.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
Yeah, they're easy. Well how about this, You take golf
day and I'll take bat untiling day because that maybe
could be my sport.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
Yeah you could pick it up as an adult.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
Yeah maybe the hope he's still there, mate, I could
become a world class batone.

Speaker 3 (51:09):
You just wait till watch your selling day comes around.
That's when you really shine.

Speaker 12 (51:15):
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